Rally du Valais

[karlzoro]

Hi,

in aprox 1 month it's the rally du Valais...I've been there in 2007 and will be there this year. Does someones knwos if there are some chances in the stages this year????

You can see some pictures of the 2007 edition here:
http://dmares.zenfolio.com/f309270753

About competitors:
-Basso
-Alen -> Scandola???
-Vouilloz
-Loix
-Burri
-?????????
-?????????

greetings from Belgium

[wwbroe]

Hi,

in aprox 1 month it's the rally du Valais...I've been there in 2007 and will be there this year. Does someones knwos if there are some chances in the stages this year????

You can see some pictures of the 2007 edition here:
http://dmares.zenfolio.com/f309270753

About competitors:
-Basso
-Alen -> Scandola???
-Vouilloz
-Loix
-Burri
-?????????
-?????????

greetings from Belgium

As told in another thread i will try to be there also. If i have any news about the stages i will let you know. See you. ;) By the way, if anybody has gps-positions of the stages, please let me know.

[Tom206wrc]

100% sure swiss champion Grégoire Hotz will be there in a 207 S2000(from Italy)...he already run 5 events with that car and won 4 of them overall(+ a swiss win) :)

Perhaps 2nd swiss driver Antonio Galli will drive one too(he already used one at the Rally Valli Varaita last week-end and had a good result, finishing 2nd swiss behind Hotz, 6th overall) :confused:

[karlzoro]

100% sure swiss champion Grégoire Hotz will be there in a 207 S2000(from Italy)...he already run 5 events with that car and won 4 of them overall(+ a swiss win) :)

Perhaps 2nd swiss driver Antonio Galli will drive one too(he already used one at the Rally Valli Varaita last week-end and had a good result, finishing 2nd swiss behind Hotz, 6th overall) :confused:

Antonio Galli, drove a C2S 1600 last year if I'm not wrong???
Hotz, Burri, Galli....
I thought that Ojeda would also take the start in Martigny???
Butor was there also in 2007 with the Swift S1600...this year???
Normally we have the Belgian Béco & Radoux there also....and Casier of course with the Polo S2000 (and maybe the other Belgian with the Polo: Auqier)

[Mirek]

There is a possibility of start for one young Czech driver. But we must wait until it is official :)

[Tom206wrc]

]There is a possibility of start for one young Czech driver. But we must wait until it is official :)



Jan Kopecky ??? :D

[Wim_Impreza]

]There is a possibility of start for one young Czech driver. But we must wait until it is official :)

Jaroslav Orsák?

[atsiotras79]

]There is a possibility of start for one young Czech driver. But we must wait until it is official :)

Bujacek or Semerad Jnr?

[Mirek]

Wait, please ;)

[wwbroe]

I think it might be Shlehofer, but let's wait like Mirek asked, after we will know for sure. ;)

[teufel]

As far I know Janos Tóth and Róbert Bútor ha also strong plans with Valais, I hope both will start as well.

[karlzoro]

As far I know Janos Tóth and Róbert Bútor ha also strong plans with Valais, I hope both will start as well.

that would be very good...

Does someone knows if Rossetti woul go to Valais???

[Mirek]

Does someone knows if Rossetti woul go to Valais???

I don't think so.

[PLuto]

Luca told, he will do CIR and Antibes and maybe Monza. That's all.

[teufel]

It's confirmed Róbert Bútor will compete, his target to repeat last year's 2nd place in the class :)

http://www.duen.hu/dokumentum/butorrobi/hirlevel_0924.pdf

[PLuto]

]There is a possibility of start for one young Czech driver. But we must wait until it is official :)

No Czech young gun on Valais this year :(

[Mirek]

Sad... :(

[wwbroe]

No Czech young gun on Valais this year :(

So, you won't be there either Pluto. That is pitty. :(

[PLuto]

Yes :(

[Tom206wrc]

Now Sanremo being over we can talk back about Valais :p :

[wwbroe]

Now Sanremo being over we can talk back about Valais :p :

Yes Tom, you are right. So, who will be going there to watch the final of the 2008 IRC-championship. I guess it will be decided in Martigny and surroundings. ;)

[Mirek]

Who knows. If there is still a chance for Basso after Valais... ;)

[wwbroe]

]Who knows. If there is still a chance for Basso after Valais... ;)

Yes Mirek, it is still possible for Basso, but i think it will be difficult for him. H e needs a win in Valais and has to go to China for another win. Maybe that one won't be so hard to win because off lack of competition, but i don't think the win in Valais will be so obvious. Both Voullioz and Loix(with a not so good car) were allready very fast in Martigny last year, so i think they will be the men to beat. Basso wasn't there last year so he doesn't know the stages like the others do. But let's hope that we will see a great battle over there, i will be there to enjoy it. :D

[Tom206wrc]

Don't forget some fast swiss drivers who will be there too(especially Hotz in an S2000) ;)

[wwbroe]

Yes, that is also true, we will see if Hotz will be able to match the speed of the frontrunners, but i have my doubts. It was same thing with Burri, who, was still far behind. But hey, we will see, the more competition, the more i like it. ;)

[Wim_Impreza]

Yes, that is also true, we will see if Hotz will be able to match the speed of the frontrunners, but i have my doubts. It was same thing with Burri, who, was still far behind. But hey, we will see, the more competition, the more i like it. ;)

Burri had a Group N Subaru and was really outstanding all other Group N competitors last year. Give Burri a S2000 and he is a candidate for the podium there. I think Hotz is the only Swiss driver who can fight for a podium place.

[wwbroe]

So nobody has any news about this year's stages in the Valais? No itinary available anywhere? Also no news about coordinates of start and finishplaces? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[karlzoro]

So nobody has any news about this year's stages in the Valais? No itinary available anywhere? Also no news about coordinates of start and finishplaces? :confused: :confused: :confused:

I don't have the GPS coordinates of the start or finish of stages but I already know that there aren't a lot of changes in the stages

[GTA]

We will know beginning of next week if Bernd Casier will drive Valais.... :)

[wwbroe]

We will know beginning of next week if Bernd Casier will drive Valais.... :)

Wasn't that sure yet, i tought he would drive there anyhow. Keep us informed Jack if you please. ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Strange rumour read in this month' Echappement magazine: Alexandre Bengué could drive the Opel Corsa S2000 at the Valais :confused:


But I remember he was strongly rumoured to be driven the MG at last year edition of the event, so... :rolleyes:

[Mirek]

I would be happy if it's true but I don't believe it very much...

[RS]

Will the Fabia be in Valais? Could be quite a good test for Monte :)

[Mirek]

We'll see, I know there were some negotiations about that...

[karlzoro]

the fabia in the valais would be nice...
I hope that Casier will be there

[RS]

Stuart Jones will enter this event in the MG S2000 before planning a full IRC season in 2009.

[Mirek]

Good news indeed.

[Tom206wrc]

When is entrylist(even if provisional)published ??? :confused:

[wwbroe]

When is entrylist(even if provisional)published ??? :confused:

Tom, entries close at 10 october and entrylist will be published on the 17th of october. :)

[Tom206wrc]

Ok ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Fantastic !!!!! Peugeot-Sport engaged Bryan Bouffier for the Rallye du Valais in two weeks !!!! :D :bounce:

[HaCo]

That is very nice!!! It will be a hard nut to crack for the other IRC drivers!

[karlzoro]

very nice

[wwbroe]

Fantastic !!!!! Peugeot-Sport engaged Bryan Bouffier for the Rallye du Valais in two weeks !!!! :D :bounce:

Are you sure about that Tom, it would be fantastic to see him in action again. ;)

[Tom206wrc]

It's news from someone who takes care of his website, so I think it's reliable ;)

[wwbroe]

It's news from someone who takes care of his website, so I think it's reliable ;)

Ok, thank you Tom, it is off-course great news. ;)

[wwbroe]

Seems that both Bouffier and Rosetti will start in Valais, engaged by Peugeot Sport, with main reason to help concer the title for Vouilloz. Great news for whoever will be visiting this rally. ;)

[Mirek]

So, we must support Basso a looot to help him in fight with all of them :D

[wwbroe]

]So, we must support Basso a looot to help him in fight with all of them :D

The more competition, the better i like it. :D Bring it on. ;)

[RS]

Great news for us and Valais, feel a little sorry for Basso though! I guess funding 2 more cars in Valais is cheaper than sending Vouilloz to China.

Anyone know if these cars will be run by Peugeot Sport or just financed by them?

[urabus-denoS2000]

I am really glad for Bouffierwczyc,finally he will show what he is made of.
In Barum he was close to the paace of Kronos Peugeots,but now with a works car... ;)

[Tom206wrc]

I wonder if Abarth will also send more top drivers to Valais :confused:

[wwbroe]

I wonder if Abarth will also send more top drivers to Valais :confused:

Wich ones, they have only Scandola with experience in this rally. I don't think Navarra or Travaglia will be able to match the speed of the Peugeot's in Valais. ;)

[karlzoro]

Wich ones, they have only Scandola with experience in this rally. I don't think Navarra or Travaglia will be able to match the speed of the Peugeot's in Valais. ;)

Navarra...mm started last year but I also think that he can follow the Pug...
Maybe Rossi can drive with a Fiat after he's world Champion on Yamaha with Fiat on it...would be great marketing but it's a dream... :D

[wwbroe]

According to his own web-site, Casier won't be in Valais, his off's in Barum and San Remo have costed him too much money. So i guess he will just do the Condroz-rally in Belgium in the weekend of 6,7 and 8 november. It is pitty, because probably no Polo in Valais, but i don't think he was able to match the speed of the frontrunners anyhow. ;)

[HaCo]

Don't forget Rally Jahay! Awesome rally, was there last year ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Wich ones, they have only Scandola with experience in this rally. I don't think Navarra or Travaglia will be able to match the speed of the Peugeot's in Valais. ;)



Panizzi for example !!!! :p :

[HaCo]

http://rally.com.au/data/Tas%20Tarmac%20Challenge%2008/rca%20day%202/ttcbates05.jpg

Nice in tarmac spec!!! Hope to see this (or SA version) in Europe!!

[Mirek]

How does it bear on Valais?

[GTA]

According to his own web-site, Casier won't be in Valais, his off's in Barum and San Remo have costed him too much money. So i guess he will just do the Condroz-rally in Belgium in the weekend of 6,7 and 8 november. It is pitty, because probably no Polo in Valais, but i don't think he was able to match the speed of the frontrunners anyhow. ;)


Normally today we should know who will replace Casier in Valais.... we speak with some drivers but is not easy on such short time..... but we try to be there with 1 car...

[GTA]

Don't forget Rally Jahay! Awesome rally, was there last year ;)

Jalhay maybe 2 Polo S2000 and 1 Polo S 1600.... :) .. so its going to be a quick drive back after Valais to be in Jalhay in the morning..

[wwbroe]

Jalhay maybe 2 Polo S2000 and 1 Polo S 1600.... :) .. so its going to be a quick drive back after Valais to be in Jalhay in the morning..

Well Jack, we did it last year with Loix when he was competing in Valais untill saturday. We left saturdayevening and he was competing in Jalhay sundaymorning. We arrived in Jalhay around three o'clock in the morning. :D

[HaCo]

]How does it bear on Valais?
Sorry, just noticed now that I putted it in the wrong thread!!! :)

[HaCo]

Jalhay maybe 2 Polo S2000 and 1 Polo S 1600.... :) .. so its going to be a quick drive back after Valais to be in Jalhay in the morning..
So who will drive a Polo in Jalhay, or are you just there to spectate?

[GTA]

Well Jack, we did it last year with Loix when he was competing in Valais untill saturday. We left saturdayevening and he was competing in Jalhay sundaymorning. We arrived in Jalhay around three o'clock in the morning. :D

Yes i know,,, Freddy was sleaping in the back of the MiniBus... :) ..
Bernd Casier will drive in Jalhay and we negociate with another well known Belgium driver..... and NO.. i am not there to spectate.. The service Truck will return in the Night and we hope its there before the 1st service.....

[HaCo]

Hmmm, a wild guess is Patrick Snijers: he wants to test the Polo before he buys a 207, the same time he gets some experience in Valais for next year? :)

I'm a bit confused, is it the same driver that will do Jalhay in the second Polo as the one in Valais?

[GTA]

Hmmm, a wild guess is Patrick Snijers: he wants to test the Polo before he buys a 207, the same time he gets some experience in Valais for next year? :)

I'm a bit confused, is it the same driver that will do Jalhay in the second Polo as the one in Valais?

2x No.... Not Snijers.. :)

[HaCo]

Hmmm... :) Let's wait and see then ;)

[GTA]

Hmmm... :) Let's wait and see then ;)

1: valais is not Belgium or Austrian Driver
2: Jalhay is Casier & 2nd driver depends on budget.
:) .. But i hope we do Valais

[teufel]

1: valais is not Belgium or Austrian Driver
2: Jalhay is Casier & 2nd driver depends on budget.
:) .. But i hope we do Valais

Maybe Kakuszi, he plans to buy a S2000 car...

[HaCo]

Thanks GTA for the info. Did you find out why the motor was broken in Haspengouw. I understand well (i think) it was something with flywheel, but it was brand new, why did it went wrong?

[Mirek]

Usualy when something completely new, what otherwhile works well, brake, it is a material defect...

[wwbroe]

Thanks GTA for the info. Did you find out why the motor was broken in Haspengouw. I understand well (i think) it was something with flywheel, but it was brand new, why did it went wrong?

I guess we have to ask Lehmann, as it was brand new engine. It was indeed the bolts holding the flywheel that broke. :(

[Tom206wrc]

Tom, entries close at 10 october and entrylist will be published on the 17th of october. :)



Tomorrow entrylist published, then :bounce:

[karlzoro]

1: valais is not Belgium or Austrian Driver
2: Jalhay is Casier & 2nd driver depends on budget.
:) .. But i hope we do Valais

Valais no Belgian or Austrian driver....McShea then??? Didn't he has plans to start in Ypres already this year and some other IRC rally's with the polo...I think I read this in the Ypres period.....

[Tom206wrc]

Three more swiss drivers in S2000 !!!! :)

Olivier Buri(Grande Punto)
Hervé von Dach(207)
Florian Gonon(207)

[Tom206wrc]

ENTRYLIST !!!! :bounce:

http://swissrally.ch/saisons/2008/engages_valais.html


Interesting: french driver Philippe Greiffenberg with the VW Polo S2000 :confused:

[Wim_Impreza]

Nikolaus 'Niki' Schelle is a surprise for me.

[RS]

Is the Fabia going to Valais?

[RS]

SS8, 10, 13 & 17 live on Eurosport!: http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=7458

[wwbroe]

SS8, 10, 13 & 17 live on Eurosport!: http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=7458

That is great, so instead of live-broadcasting from service they will do it at the stages. Looks like they will do live coverage of Champex (SS8-10) on friday and Nendaz (SS13-17) on saturday. I will be in Valais, but i will have certainly a look at it when i get back home. This is certainly the right way to promote a championship, maybe FIA and WRC can have a look at it to see how it is done. :D

[karlzoro]

Is the Fabia going to Valais?

I don't know :rolleyes: , don't think so, can Mireck confirm it ??

[Mirek]

Mirek can't, Mirek doesn't know :)

[GTA]

ENTRYLIST !!!! :bounce:

http://swissrally.ch/saisons/2008/engages_valais.html
Interesting: french driver Philippe Greiffenberg with the VW Polo S2000 :confused:

Sorry....There will be NO Polo S2000 in Valais... :mad:

[wwbroe]

Sorry....There will be NO Polo S2000 in Valais... :mad:

That is really pitty Jack, what about Jalhay, will there be two Polo's S2000? And what about plans for the future, anything comfirmed yet? Thanks ;)

[GTA]

That is really pitty Jack, what about Jalhay, will there be two Polo's S2000? And what about plans for the future, anything comfirmed yet? Thanks ;)

Casier will drive in Jalhay and then we prepare for Wald4tel rally in Austria and Condroz rally in Belgium.( are in same weekend).
we have many talks with drivers for 2009.

[Tom206wrc]

...
we have many talks with drivers for 2009.




Good news :up:

[MG Rally]

Exclusive images of Stuart Jones' new livery that he will be displaying on his MG in Switzerland this weekend, can be found HERE! (http://mgs2000.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=202)

Best wishes to Stuart & George on a successful outing! :up:

[Mirek]

Nice one. I can see new sponsors for Stuart, well done. I also heard they'll use new engine maps. I hope Stuart is doing well in Valais.

[wwbroe]

It is indeed nice livery for the MG of Stuart Jones. Hope he will do nice result in Valais. I will be leaving to Switserland in the morning. ;) Hope we will see another nice battle for victory. They announce a lot of rain, at least that is what i have seen on the weatherforecast, so maybe will will see a lot of rain on the stages.

[Tom206wrc]

Oh nooo NOT RAIN !!!!! :mad: :mad: ;(

[RS]

Nothing wrong with a bit of rain, should spice things up a bit!

Confirmation, the Fabia is not in Valais. I guess because this event will not be in IRC next year.

[Tom206wrc]

"A lot" of rain isn't "a bit" of rain , RS :rolleyes:

[Tom206wrc]

Fantastic, the live results page !!!! :up:

http://irc.riv.ch/2008/valais/pre_e.html

[MG Rally]

WANTED!

Any photos of Stuart Jones / George Gwynn MG S2000 SPORT No 14 to use on my MG S2000 SPORT FORUM - www.mgs2000.co.uk (http://www.mgs2000.co.uk)

You will receive a full credit and link to your rally / photography website in return as a thank you. Please email all images and news to...

admin @ mgs2000.co.uk (removing the gaps next to the @ symbol!) Many thanks and have a safe, enjoyable rally everybody! ;)

[Salist]

Hi HaCo,

Have you a high resolution pictures from this car?

[Salist]

Hi HaCo,

Have you a high resolution pictures from this car?




http://rally.com.au/data/Tas%20Tarmac%20Challenge%2008/rca%20day%202/ttcbates05.jpg

Nice in tarmac spec!!! Hope to see this (or SA version) in Europe!!

[AndyRAC]

Hi HaCo,

Have you a high resolution pictures from this car?

A Corolla?? Should really be an Auris, can't see Toyota getting behind a car that is out of date.

[Mirek]

AndyRAC: This car is called Corolla in Australia even though it is Auris in EU ;)

[HaCo]

@Salist, this picture comes from rally.com.au , awesome car isn't it?

[Mirek]

It is very close after SS3: http://62.2.243.237/rallye/rales.php?rid=181&eta=1&seq=120

Basso lost quite a lot due to puncture on SS3, except that he was fighting on top. We'll see that 40 km stage tomorrow. Basso may be able to win the rally there...

[HaCo]

Awesome performance by Scandola!!! Looking forward to the rest of the event! Rally's in IRC give complete different feeling after first day than WRC rally's.

[Tom206wrc]

Yep Scandola impressed me :up:


Bu I trust the pugs drivers(Loix, Vouilloz, Bouffier and Rox especially)to be able to accelerate tomorrow :p :

[Mirek]

Tom, no! If they are infront of Basso, noone will go to China. Otherwise they must and we'll have one another event to follow.

[Tom206wrc]

It's a point of view Mirek ;)

[PLuto]

Peugeot wont go to China in any circumstances.

[MG Rally]

Apart from a few photos on the IRC website, has anybody found any online galleries anywhere else? The web addresses would be much appreciated - especially if the MG is amongst the photos. ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Apart from a few photos on the IRC website, has anybody found any online galleries anywhere else? The web addresses would be much appreciated - especially if the MG is amongst the photos. ;)



You also have pics on http://www.rally-live.com ;)

[Mirek]

And huge number of photos is here: http://www.duen.hu/

[MG Rally]

Thank you, but I had found those photos after my post above. I have also found these though...

http://www.focusrs.ch/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8120

[Abarth]

Go Abarth !!!!!

[AndyRAC]

The first stage of the day could change things, a 40km stage. Bring it on.

[Sulland]

Voullioz 34 sec in front of Scandola, and 15 in front of Loix !!

A long stage really separates well !!

Now lets see Bassos time !!

[AndyRAC]

Basso now 30secs behind. What a stage,..first thing, that should have woken everybody up.

[Mirek]

Basso said yesterday that he had injured wrist and that it hurts him much (here: http://live.riv.ch/index.php?category/EN )

[Mirek]

Nr 6 Bouffier: puncture

Nr 2 Basso: slow puncture

Nr 7 Scandola: spun at around km 15

Nr 28 Bettega: spun at the beginning of SS 4

Nr 18 Lavio: retired - transmission

Nr 4 Burri: power steering and alternator problems

[Tom206wrc]

What about Florian Gonon who lost 4'37 ??? :confused:


Great stage for Pugs overall :up:

[Tom206wrc]

Loix has his time in SS5 but not Scandola :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

No time anymore after the three first drivers :mad:

[Mirek]

Scandola ripped wheel off and road is blocked. Stage cancelled.

Nikolaus Schelle retired with mechanical problem.

Jones lost more than 23 minutes on SS4 and retired with mechanical problem.

[Tom206wrc]

But Scandola isn't blocking stage, because Loix, Vouilloz, and Bouffier have their times(and were going after him) :confused:

It more looks like something would have happened to Rossetti(going after Bouffier) :mark:

By the way it looks like SS6 is cancelled too(read in italian Rallylink forum) :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Now the rest of the drivers have time in SS5 but all are more than 1 minute slower than Fast Freddy... :mark:

[Mirek]

Officialy only SS5 is cancelled.

[Tom206wrc]

OK Mirek ;)


Pitty for Scandola :(

[Wim_Impreza]

The time of Basso, Rossetti... doesn't count than in SS5?

[Tom206wrc]

Has SS6 started in time ??? :confused:

[AndyRAC]

Loix looks as though he's lost 2mins.......

[Tom206wrc]

No it was a mistake for Loix who was 4.8s faster than Vouilloz :p :

But times are again locked after them :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Bouffier is here, +8.4 from Loix... ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Basso !!!!! :eek: :confused:

[CEORacingLions]

Engine problems ?

Voillouz is the IRC CHAMP 2008.

Nice Nico :s mokin:

[Tom206wrc]

It's not another puncture for Basso :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

SS7 running...

[CEORacingLions]

Tom yeah ... another puncture .

[Tom206wrc]

Rossetti lost 12s on Loix on such short SS7...any problem ???

[CEORacingLions]

I believe that Alen will started to walk more slowly , Basso climb on place at least .

But the real problem is the Peugeot Poker in front of Rally ( Nico , Loix , Luca and Bouffier ).

In normal conditions , Basso can take a 5th overall in the end of rally.

[CEORacingLions]

Slow puncture.... or maybe a 360 , i think.

[CEORacingLions]

Well Basso lost 14s .... short stages not good for him.

[Tom206wrc]

Slow puncture.... or maybe a 360 , i think.


I remember at the start of IRC08 season it was Fast Freddy who was unlucky with the tyres(lots of punctures hampering his results) :mark:

[CEORacingLions]

Yeah Tom , in Portugal ... he had no more tyres to change....

Now will be funny to see the work from Abarth as Ford did in WRC.

Lets see Champex 1 on EuroSport.

[Tom206wrc]

SS8 running...Fast Freddy finished :)

[Tom206wrc]

Vouilloz was 2s faster ;)

[CEORacingLions]

Tom , mistake from Luca , on SS7 , like i say.

Where you see times ?

[Tom206wrc]

Problem for the time of Grégoire Hotz !!!! He's far behind everybody after SS8(and no penalty, so...) :mark:

[CEORacingLions]

In Rally-Live no times .... where i can see Tom ?

[Salist]

ES 8 - Champex-Les Valettes LIVE

http://62.2.243.237/rallye/rales.php?rid=181&eta=2&seq=140

[Tom206wrc]

In Rally-Live no times .... where i can see Tom ?



I currently watch on http://62.2.243.237/rallye/ralspeciale.php?rid=181 ;)

[CEORacingLions]

Thanks a lot.

[Sulland]

Engine problems ?

Voillouz is the IRC CHAMP 2008.

Nice Nico :s mokin:

To finish first, you first have to finish !!!

A lot can still happen, but it looks good for Voillouz, and Pug !!

[CEORacingLions]

Sulland , sure , you're right.

But only 7 betters results counts if Voillouz retire.... Basso needs a 2th or 3th i think ( ???? ).... it's really really difficult , but will see.

[Tom206wrc]

SS9 penultimate stage of the leg, running... :cool:

[CEORacingLions]

Basso lost more 24s .... :dozey:

[Wim_Impreza]

Problem for the time of Grégoire Hotz !!!! He's far behind everybody after SS8(and no penalty, so...) :mark:

He is 6th in that stage.

Again a real Peugeot cup, boring!

[RS]

Again a real Peugeot cup, boring!

It wouldn't have been that were it not for the bad luck of Abarth here. We could all see in Sanremo and Asturias that the cars are fairly close, at least Basso anyway.

Don't worry, next year Skoda will come to mix up the field a little :)

[Wim_Impreza]

I really hope Škoda can do something next year. Probably there will be again teamorders between Peugeot Benelux tomorrow.

[HaCo]

Yep, I have high hopes for skoda as well. It's a nice stage for live rallying, few extra cameras next to the road would make it even better.

What happend to Jones and the MG?

[Tom206wrc]

So end of 2nd leg... :)


Tomorrow start SS11 at 9.14am(gmt+1)... ;)

[CEORacingLions]

Amazing job from EuroSport !

I think only they should allocate more time for pilots.

For example , at half of the special images of helicopters , On-Board Cams for a while during a middle-end of the stage ... and at the end cameras around the stage.

A mosaic when things are more balanced in front of the rally to follow the Stages of 2 or 3 pilots fighting for first place.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Amazing job from EuroSport !

I think only they should allocate more time for pilots.

For example , at half of the special images of helicopters , On-Board Cams for a while during a middle-end of the stage ... and at the end cameras around the stage.

A mosaic when things are more balanced in front of the rally to follow the Stages of 2 or 3 pilots fighting for first place.

I agree with you,very good job by Eurosport,it would only be better if they had more on-stage cameramen.
But I think this is all just testing for Monte Carlo 2009 which should be amazing

[RS]

I was really impressed with the live footage, I thought they would have a lot of glitches but it was very high quality stuff. I wonder whether for live televised stages in the future they can change the start gap to 3 minutes for the top 10 cars?

[Sulland]

What happened to the Polo team, did they not show show up at all ?

[urabus-denoS2000]

Polo team didnt show up

[AndyRAC]

I was really impressed with the live footage, I thought they would have a lot of glitches but it was very high quality stuff. I wonder whether for live televised stages in the future they can change the start gap to 3 minutes for the top 10 cars?

Same here, I was impressed, a nice stage as well. There are 2 more Live stages tomorrow, then we have to wait until Monte. Keep it up :up:

[RS]

Just imagine how exciting it could be if they televised the final stage of every IRC event live, with many splits throughout the stage, cutting to and from the victory contendors.

[Tom206wrc]

Loix back at +5s behind Vouilloz after SS11 this morning :bounce:

[HaCo]

Awesome stage live on tv!

I think could improve the live transmission like this:
- Draw a straight line on the left, right, top or bottom of the screen, this represents the stage
- Put three cameras on the stage, distributed and draw these cameras as dots on the line
- If a car passes these cameras, transmit these images on tv, highlight the dots on the line when the camera is sending on tv
- The times there is no camera transmitting, show the car closest to the finnish on board.
- Put the top 5 times somewhere on the screen
- Optional: Draw dots where the cars are driving on the straight line
- Optional: Bring us HD! :D


Hope Loix can beat Vouilloz :)

[RS]

Awesome stage live on tv!

I think could improve the live transmission like this:
- Draw a straight line on the left, right, top or bottom of the screen, this represents the stage
- Put three cameras on the stage, distributed and draw these cameras as dots on the line
- If a car passes these cameras, transmit these images on tv, highlight the dots on the line when the camera is sending on tv
- The times there is no camera transmitting, show the car closest to the finnish on board.
- Put the top 5 times somewhere on the screen
- Optional: Draw dots where the cars are driving on the straight line
- Optional: Bring us HD! :D


Hope Loix can beat Vouilloz :)

These are good ideas. Also, after each car finishes they could show the top 8 stage positions and overall positions updated. More use of split times would be good too.

I think it is already on HD, I don't have HD but it was on Eurosport HD in the UK at 2pm yesterday.

[Sulland]

I guess there are no team orders in Pug Benelux ?

So that Loix will be allowed to win if he is fastest ?

Is the next show on Eurosport at 1500 CET live, or a sum up of the whole rally ?

[Sulland]

Loix in the lead after SS15, by 0,7 sec !!!

[Tom206wrc]

LOIX takes the lead after SS15 !!!! :D :D

No team order to give, as even if Vouilloz finishes 2nd he's IRC champion ;)

[Kurt L.]

Van Dalen had to calm them both down after SS13 i read on pitstop.tv,vouilloz had a flat a the end of the SS, and Loix touched something and damaged the front left.
He was probably not amused

[Tom206wrc]

Rossetti even faster ;)

[RS]

Is the next show on Eurosport at 1500 CET live, or a sum up of the whole rally ?

Final stage live :)

[HaCo]

Loix takes it, eh, gets it. :)

[Tom206wrc]

Congrats to Loix for the victory and to Vouilloz for the title :up:

Rossetti and Bouffier did a great job too...too pitty Bouffier had a puncture yesterday, otherwise he would have offered us a fight for the podium :p :

Basso incredibly unlucky after two victories in-a-row in IRC :(
Alen did a better job than on his previous other IRC tarmac outings...


can't wait for 2009 season now :bounce:

[Wim_Impreza]

Tom and wwbroe, where do you saw rain in this rally?

[katxal]

Final Results:
1. Freddy Loix - Robin Byusmans - Peugeot 207 S2000 - 2:37:33.5 - http://www.s2000rally.com/car-detail.php?car=107
http://duen.hu/kepek/foto/081022_valais/DuEn_Valais2008_2064.jpg

2. Nicolas Vouilloz - Nicolas Klinger - Peugeot 207 S2000 - a +4.5 s - http://www.s2000rally.com/car-detail.php?car=108
http://duen.hu/kepek/foto/081022_valais/DuEn_Valais2008_2243.jpg

3.Luca Rossetti - Mateo Chiarcossi - Peugeot 207 S2000 - a +53.9 - http://www.s2000rally.com/car-detail.php?car=146
http://duen.hu/kepek/foto/081022_valais/DuEn_Valais2008_2256.jpg

4. Bryan Bouffier - Xavier Panseri - Peugeot 207 S2000 - a +1.30:6 - http://www.s2000rally.com/car-detail.php?car=121
http://duen.hu/kepek/foto/081022_valais/DuEn_Valais2008_2159.jpg

5. Giandomenico Basso - Mittia Dotta - Abarth Grande Punto S2000 - a +2.48:2 - http://www.s2000rally.com/car-detail.php?car=135
http://duen.hu/kepek/foto/081022_valais/DuEn_Valais2008_3025.jpg

[katxal]

6. Anton Alen - Timo Alanen - Abarth Grande Punto S2000 - a +2.52:8 - http://www.s2000rally.com/car-detail.php?car=134
http://duen.hu/kepek/foto/081022_valais/DuEn_Valais2008_2361.jpg

7. Gregoire Hotz - Pietro Ravassi - Peugeot 207 S2000 - a +3.24:3 - http://www.s2000rally.com/car-detail.php?car=128
http://duen.hu/kepek/foto/081022_valais/DuEn_Valais2008_2364.jpg

8. Janos Toth - Robert Tagai - Peugeot 207 S2000 - a +6.15:9 - http://www.s2000rally.com/car-detail.php?car=23
http://duen.hu/kepek/foto/081022_valais/DuEn_Valais2008_3044.jpg

9. Florian Gonon - Sandra Arlettaz - Peugeot 207 S2000 - a +9.51:4 - http://www.s2000rally.com/car-detail.php?car=142
http://duen.hu/kepek/foto/081022_valais/DuEn_Valais2008_3034.jpg

10. Jean- Philippe Radoux - Jean-Noel Gregoire - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX - a +10.07:7
http://duen.hu/kepek/foto/081022_valais/DuEn_Valais2008_3059.jpg

[wwbroe]

Hey guys, we came back sunday evening from Valais and had another nice rally over there. When we left on wednesdaymorning we had rain all the day travelling to Martigny. It just didn't stop untill we were at 15 Kms before Martigny, then it suddenly stopped raining. There was a lot of wind and some fog on wednesday evening but not too much rain. During the rally it was completely dry and we had even rather nice weather. Speaking to some of the local people i found out that this part of Zwitserland (Valais region) has a very good climat and is always warmer then rest of the country.
The shakedown took place on a road that is also used in the long (40Kms) stage off "Les Cols", but in opposite direction. We allready saw an idication of what we could expect for the rally. Vouilloz didn't do shake-down, but Loix was immediately fast on his first run. He did three runs. Also fast was Scandola, but i must say he drove very aggressive, cutting a lot in all corners. Alen set nice time, but only after six or seven runs. The rest was a lot slower in shakedown.
I think during the rally it was clear that the Kronos drivers where above the rest. Basso never gave the impression that he would be able to fight for victory and was a little bit disappointing for me. Scandola did start very well, like in San-Remo, but it would have been a surprice to me if he would have stayed on the road, because very aggressive driving. I found Rosetti and Bouffier doing quite well, after all they did this event for the first time. They did some very good times, but were never a thread for the Kronos boys, who put up a great show, fighting for every second. The long stage was for Voullioz who beated Freddy by 15 seconds, mainly because Loix was on wrong tires and suspension was too soft. He then won some stages to reduce his difference with Nico. Last day they started both under maximum attack and Freddy took back some time on the long stage, and came back to about 5 sec of Nico. Then he hit something on second stage and Nico had a puncture on the third stage. After that Van Dalen took the decision that they had to calm down and be at the finish. They decided that Loix would take victory and the vice-champion title, and Vouilloz the championship.
Alltough i would have loved to see the fight going on untill finish i can understand the decision they took.
Anyway, i saw another very nice rally, with beautifull surroundings, and a deserved one-two for Kronos drivers. Great rally also for Rosetti and Bouffier, Luca telling me that he found the stages too quick, and they don't have stages like this in Italy. Brian Bouffier liked the rally a lot, at least that is what he told me. He also said that there is possibility that he will be in Condroz rally in two weeks time with the Proton. ;)
We had another great afterparty, starting at rally centre (cerm) and finished up with Freddy, Robin, Nico, Nico, Luca and Brian in a disco where we had a lot of fun. Looking forward to next season, with hopefully a lot of nice rally's and more attractive fights for victory.
So, now i am going to finish this report and get some sleep, because it was a very hard rally (especially the after-party) :D

[Sulland]

Must admit that I like the Livery of the Scandola Abarth much better then the works one !

[RS]

Must admit that I like the Livery of the Scandola Abarth much better then the works one !

But it's the same, did you mean Burri's?

[Mirek]

I was out for all weekend and didn't follow Valais after SS5. How good was the live broadcasting? Conratulations to Kronos guys :)

PS
Does anyone know what happend to Robi Bútor to have all left doors covered by blood on thursday? Did he hit some roe?

[RS]

]I was out for all weekend and didn't follow Valais after SS5. How good was the live broadcasting?

It was excellent, you can still see the final stage coverage here: http://www.ircseries.com/html/Video.asp

[AndyRAC]

Yeah, the Live coverage was great - and not a 'Mickey Mouse Superspecial' - a proper Stage. What will the ISC/F1A do in Japan and GB?? Any live coverage?? The gauntlet has been thrown down......

[karlzoro]

It was a freat rally and we did some nice places...
It is a deserved win for Loix...he was quickest (only on the 40km stage, where Nico make the gap)
Whe didn't have any rain there during the rally...so it was perfect and a perfect after party also ;)

It was a perfect rally...little sad that it isn't in the IRC 2009 championship...

[Mirek]

I heard that things changed again and Valais would stay in IRC...

[Luis Pacheco]

This weekend I had the confirmation from the IRC that the calendar will be publish on 10th of November.
Today portuguese press talks about 11 races in 2009.
Monte Carlo, Brazil, Azores, Ypres, Russia, Madeira, Barum, Asturias, San Remo, China and Scotland.

[karlzoro]

I hope that Valais will be there in 2009...
You can see my video of the rally on www.freddyloix.com (http://www.freddyloix.com)
or the direct link: http://www.freddyloix.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=191&Itemid=55

I hope you enjoy it

greetz,
karlzoro

[PLuto]

Valais will be there.

[wwbroe]

Valais will be there.

Ok Pluto, that is great news, because after all this is very nice rally, with beautifull scenery and surroundings. One more to add to my list for next year. :D

[Mirek]

Very nice video from 1max2rallye.com: http://videos.1max2rallye.com/description.php?id=891

[PLuto]

Ok Pluto, that is great news, because after all this is very nice rally, with beautifull scenery and surroundings. One more to add to my list for next year. :D

But next year, there will be lot of events, which will be count both IRC and ERC :mad:

[RS]

But next year, there will be lot of events, which will be count both IRC and ERC :mad:

Why's that a bad thing? Means good entry lists :)

[karlzoro]

it is a good event...

You can some pictures from the valais on my brother's website:http://dmares.zenfolio.com/
@mireck: thanks for the link to the nice video :)

[PLuto]

Why's that a bad thing? Means good entry lists :)

No, it means less chances for good result for usual ERC competitors...

[Mirek]

Stuart Jones retired due to blown head gasket.

[N.O.T]

no 2nd split for latvala....

[Petr_CZ]

HQ Photos from Valais : http://www.rally2.com/myegallery.php?&do=showgall&gid=203

[Wim_Impreza]

Why's that a bad thing? Means good entry lists :)

ERC is a real championship, IRC is only a challenge. I don't understand why people find it good to have rallies with both ERC and IRC status.

[wwbroe]

ERC is a real championship, IRC is only a challenge. I don't understand why people find it good to have rallies with both ERC and IRC status.

Wim, i think that the times that the ERC was a real championship are long over, don't you think so? The last vife years are so, it wasn't that much of a championship in my honoust opinion. It was rather a playground of a few who could affort to compete in most of the highest quoted rallies (ERC20). But most of the time it wasn't a hard fought championship. I think that IRC is so much more a real championship alltough it is not in the name. :D

[HaCo]

ERC is a real championship, IRC is only a challenge. I don't understand why people find it good to have rallies with both ERC and IRC status.

Well, the good thing is that the guys can challenge eachoter from time to time. What do you mean by only a challenge?

[Mirek]

Wim_Impreza says that ERC has FIA championship status while IRC not.

[Wim_Impreza]

Indeed, Mirek. ;)

[RS]

Wim, i think that the times that the ERC was a real championship are long over, don't you think so? The last vife years are so, it wasn't that much of a championship in my honoust opinion. It was rather a playground of a few who could affort to compete in most of the highest quoted rallies (ERC20). But most of the time it wasn't a hard fought championship. I think that IRC is so much more a real championship alltough it is not in the name. :D

I agree. I know Rossetti won it this year, but he probably would have been better off concentrating on IRC properly.

[PLuto]

I agree. I know Rossetti won it this year, but he probably would have been better off concentrating on IRC properly.

I dont agree with you, Ron. Rossetti's main target this year was ERC, he has found money for this championship. After his winning in Turkey, he decided try chance in Portugal (and organiser gave him lot of money for this start)...

[karlzoro]

Hi everyone,

I made a small movie of the Valais 2008
You can see it on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueJHhQGvSjI

hope you enjoy it...
greetings