Your ideal grid

[Cozzie]

This should be fun. What is your ideal Formula 1 grid? Which drivers driving for which teams, any other manafacturers you would like to see racing etc.

[RJL25]

ooh spiffy thread! i like it

ok here goes my imaginary grid in no particular order!

Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - Phillipe Massa

Renault: Heikki Kovalainen - Sebastien Bourdais

Honda: Jenson Button - Anthony Davison

McLaren-Merceedes: Fernando Alonso - Lewis Hamilton

BMW: Robert Kubica - Nick Heidfeld

Porsche: Ryan Briscoe - Nico Rosberg

Red Bull-Lamborghini: Mark Webber - Rubens Barrichello

Spyker: Robert Doornbos - Christian Albers

Toyota: Jarno Trulli - Christian Klein

Williams-Audi: Vitantonio Liuzzi - Alexander Wurz

Prodrive-Hyundai: two obscure korean drivers

Team Australia-Holden: Will Power - James Courtney (hey an aussie can dream!!!)


Well there ya go, some teams have stayed the same, and some teams have made some wierd and some wonderful transformations! :D discuss.......

[LeonBrooke]

Hmm........... Juan Pablo Montoya for... any team really.

Susie Stoddart, Vanina Ickx as well, and Katherine Legge. Not really bothered about who they drive for, just so long as they're competitive.


In terms of manufacturers, Cosworth back, Ford back, also Porsche and Subaru.


Also Team Brooke, run by me, with Ford engines, green cars, and Ickx and Stoddart with race numbers 1 and 2 :D although I'd try to think of something more imaginative than "Team Brooke" for the team...

[ottostreet]

Ferrari: Michael Schumacher & Gilles Villeneuve.
McLaren Mercedes: Ayrton Senna & Mika Hakkinen
Williams: Nigel Mansell & Nelson Piquet (it had to be)
Honda: Kimi Raikkonen & Giancarlo Fisichella (the comparative results would be hilarious)
Red Bull: Juan Manuel Fangio & Jim Clark ( dunno really. just be interesting)
Toro Rosso: Juan Pablo Montoya & James Hunt/Vittorio Brambilla (that would be great)
Super Aguri: Chiaki Kuriyama & Kobe Tai (google them) (they'd probably be just as good)
Renault: Jean Alesi & Alain Prost (could be great fun to watch)
Spyker: Estaban Tuero & Pedro Diniz (amazing)
BMW: Heinz-Harald Frentzen & David Coulthard (underrated men)
Toyota: Fernando Alonso & Pedro de la Rosa (justice would finally be done)

i hope ive understood the context of this thread now.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Ferrari: Michael Schumacher & Fernando Alonso
McLaren Mercedes: Paffet & Hamilton
Williams: Jon Brown :up: & Rosberg
Honda: Button & Davidson
Jaguar: Webber & Coulthard
Minardi: R. Schumacher & Trulli (where they belong)
Renault: Alain Menu & Jason Plato
Jordan: Irvine & Montoya
BMW: Hiedfeld & Andy Priloulx
Toyota: Raikkonnenn & Massa

Lotus: Senna & Jim Clark

[52Paddy]

I don't mind who drives for what but drivers I'd like to see on the grid are:

1. Gerhard Bergar
2. Johnny Herbert
3. Eddie Irvine
4. Mika Hakkinen
5. Juan Pablo Montoya
6. Kimi Raikkonen
7. Jensen Button
8. David Coulthard
9. Jarno Trulli
10. Heinz-Herald Frentzen
11. Rubens Barrichello
12. Jacques Villeneave
13. Damon Hill
14. Tarso Marques
15. Felipe Massa
16. Pedro De La Rosa
17. Eric Van Den Poole
18. Tiff Needle
19. Pedro Diniz
20. Ukyo Katayama

And then 10 teams on the grid would be:

1. Ferrari
2. McLaren Mercedes
3. Williams Renault
4. Jordon Peugeot
5. Tyrell Hart
6. Stewart Ford
7. Footwork Hart
8. Pacific Ford
9. Minardi Ford
10. Andrea Moda :p :

[ShiftingGears]

My ideal grid?

Okay...

Audi (Auto Union) - (Blast with some TITANS from the past, with JPM to keep it a bit modern)
Bernd Rosemeyer
Tazio Nuvolari
Juan Pablo Montoya
Lotus - (brilliant drivers who drove for Lotus who had a feel for the cars they drove)
Ayrton Senna
Jim Clark
Stirling Moss
McLaren Mercedes - (The Regenmeister vs The Professor vs The Maestro)
Rudolf Caracciola
Alain Prost
Juan Manuel Fangio
Ferrari - (real racing drivers with what I call a real racing mentality - for the romantics)
Gilles Villeneuve
Stefan Bellof
Ronnie Peterson
Kimi Raikkonen
Benneton/Renault - (the greatest drivers from the last 10 years)
Michael Schumacher
Fernando Alonso
Williams - (Tough drivers who beat other more naturally gifted drivers through iron hard will and determination - the battlers)
Alan Jones
Nigel Mansell


Oh yes... :p :

[RJL25]

ahh geez i went all modern and futuristic with my grid thinking that was the way to go and then you blokes come along and pluck all these blokes out of various pages of history books and make my grid look positively boring in comparison...

oh well i have a red bull-lamborghini and could you just imagine that! They would put on a parade with fireworks, aeroplanes, acrobats and bull fight events just to announce the acquisition of a new coffee machine to put in the lunch room

[F1racer3]

oh well i have a red bull-lamborghini and could you just imagine that! They would put on a parade with fireworks, aeroplanes, acrobats and bull fight events just to announce the acquisition of a new coffee machine to put in the lunch room[/QUOTE]

Yeah, they wouldn't even have to change the badge. It would be great to see Ford back, the American manufacturer has won 176 Grands Prix. If they had enough money to invest, they would have been successful once again.

[K-Pu]

Well, if some people have resurrected dead people... me too!
3 pilots per team, the third is obviously the 3rd driver and would race in case of another´s "malfunction".

THE GRID

Ferrari: (Red, Passion... Ferrari)
Gilles Villeneuve
Michael Schumacher
Riccardo Patrese (I needed an Italian here)

Williams: (I´ll do it!)
Nelson Piquet
Nigel Mansell
Alan Jones

McLaren: (To do this you must do that)
Ayrton Senna
Mika Hakkinen
Niki Lauda

Lotus: (Golden history)
Jim Clark (Of course)
Elio De Angelis
Johnny Herbert (The Unlucky Man)

Brabham: (Of course we can!)
Jack Brabham
Carlos Reutemann
John Watson (No Comments)

Renault: (Allons frères de la patrie...)
Alain Prost
René Arnoux
Jean Alesi

Campos Racing (Por España!)
Fernando Alonso
Pedro De La Rosa
Félix Porteiro

Eagle-Weslake (The All-American team, one man team with 1 test pilot)
Dan Gurney (Obviously)
Mario Andretti

Honda (Itaiiii!!!)
Ukyo Katayama
Takuma Sato (Fun!)
Aguri Suzuki

[rlenis]

We’ve done this many times before

Renault
Montoya
Villanueve

Ferrari
Kimi
Massa

Mclaren
Alonso
Webber

BMW
Kubica
Heidfeld

RedBull
Bourdais
Kovalainen

Honda
Button
Hamilton

Toyota
Barichello
Liuzzi

ToroRosso
Fisichella
Roseberg

Spyker
Albers
Speed

Super Aguri
Sato
Davidson

[VkmSpouge]

I have two ideal fields:

Teams
Alfa Romeo
Brabham
BRM
Cooper
Ferrari
Lotus
Maserati
McLaren
Renault
Tyrrell
Vanwall
Williams

Drivers
Fernando Alonso
Mario Andretti
Alberto Ascari
Jack Brabham
Jim Clark
Juan Manuel Fangio
Emerson Fittipaldi
Nino Farina
Mika Hakkinen
Damon Hill
Graham Hill
Niki Lauda
Nigel Mansell
Stirling Moss
Tazio Nuvolari
Nelson Piquet (in the same team as Nigel Mansell)
Alain Prost
Kimi Raikkonen
Michael Schumacher
Ayrton Senna (in the same team as Alain Prost)
Jackie Stewart
John Surtees
Gilles Villeneuve
Jacques Villeneuve

And for second ideal field:
Teams
AGS
Andrea Moda
Coloni
EuroBrun
Fondmetal
Forti
Life
Lola
Midland
Onyx
Pacific
Simtek

Drivers
Zsolt Baumgartner
Paul Belmondo
Enrico Bertaggia
Pedro Chaves
Andrea Chiesa
Jean-Denis Deletraz
Gregor Foitek
Bertrandt Gachot
Bruno Giacomelli
Olivier Grouillard
Naoki Hattori
Yuji Ide
Taki Inoue
Tarso Marques
Gaston Mazzacane
Perry McCarthy
Andrea Montermini
Robert Moreno (a class driver but he drove for 5 teams on the list)
Hideki Noda
Riccardo Rosset
Domenico Schiattarella
Gabriele Tarquini
Eric van de Poele
Alex Yoong

[jens]

What concerns teams, then I'd like to see yellow Seat racing team in F1. :)

It would be interesting to see GP2 backmarker Tahinci competing against Yoong and Ide in an F1 car. And to see, how much would Al Pease lose in a modern F1 car.

No more specific wishes or "ideals".

[schmenke]

More grid girls :D

[futuretiger9]

How about:-

Senna - McLaren-Honda
Fangio - Maserati 250F
Clark - Lotus 49
Moss - Maserati 250F
M Schumacher - Ferrari F2002
Stewart - Tyrrell-Ford
Prost - McLaren-Honda
Lauda - Ferrari 312T
Hakkinen - McLaren-Mercedes
Alberto Ascari - Ferrari 500
G Villeneuve - Ferrari 312T4
Peterson - Lotus 72
Mansell - Williams-Honda
Piquet - Brabham-BMW BT52
Alonso - Renault
Brabham - Brabham Repco
G Hill - Lotus 49
E Fittipaldi - McLaren M23
Hunt - McLaren M23
Reutemann - Brabham BT42
Gurney - Eagle
Farina - Alfa Romeo

[V12]

Vodafone McLaren Mercedes - Fernando Alonso, Lewis Hamilton
ING Benetton Renault - Giancarlo Fisichella, Heikki Kovalainen
Scuderia Ferrari - Felipe Massa, Kimi Raikkonen
Honda - Jenson Button, Rubens Barrichello
Sauber BMW - Nick Heidfeld, Robert Kubica
AT&T Williams Toyota - Nico Rosberg, Alex Wurz
Red Bull Arden Renault - David Coulthard, Mark Webber
Red Bull Minardi Ferrari - Vitantonio Liuzzi, Scott Speed
Spyker Ferrari - Christijan Albers, Adrian Sutil
Super Aguri Honda - Takuma Sato, Anthony Davidson
Prodrive Cosworth - Pedro de la Rosa, Gary Paffett
Carlin Mugen
ART Mercedes

...and basically any other team that applied for one of the limited 12 slots for 2008
...and no, I didn't miss the factory Toyota team out by accident!

[Tazio]

Brabbam
Stewart
Fangio
Lauda
Nuvolari
Hill
Hill
Senna
Il' Leon
Farina
Shumacher
Surtees
Prost
Ascari
Patrese
Alesi
Reuteman
Clark
Fittipaldi
Piquet
Burger
aArnoux
G vilieneuve
Gurney

Firtst alternate------ von tripps(sentimental pick)

In an imaginary race at Spa(with a little rain)
Qualifying
First four rows
Stewart, Nuvolari
Senna, Surtees
Fangio, Shumacher
Il' Leon, Lauda

Preliminary unofficial clasification

Podium Stewart, Senna, Nuvolari

Points paying positions
Stewart
Senna
Nuvolari
Schumacher
Fangio
Alesi
Ascari
Mansell

[Hawkmoon]

Ferrari - Michael Schumacher / Gilles Villeneuve
McLaren-Honda - Ayrton Senna / Alain Prost
Williams-Renault - Nigel Mansell / Alan Jones
Lotus-Ford - Jim Clark / Ronnie Peterson
Tyrrell-Ford - Jackie Stewart / Jean Alesi
Benetton-Ford - Gerhard Berger / Riccardo Patrese
Renault - Fernando Alonso / Rene Arnoux
Brabham-BMW - Nelson Piquet / Jack Brabham
Eagle-Weslake - Dan Gurney
BRM - Graham Hill
Mercedes-Benz - Juan Manuel Fangio / Stirling Moss
Honda - John Surtees / Jenson Button
Ligier-Renault - J.P. Jabouille / Olivier Panis

[ioan]

These two propositions are very sound ones, it could hardly be better:


Well, if some people have resurrected dead people... me too!
3 pilots per team, the third is obviously the 3rd driver and would race in case of another´s "malfunction".

THE GRID

Ferrari: (Red, Passion... Ferrari)
Gilles Villeneuve
Michael Schumacher
Riccardo Patrese (I needed an Italian here)

Williams: (I´ll do it!)
Nelson Piquet
Nigel Mansell
Alan Jones

McLaren: (To do this you must do that)
Ayrton Senna
Mika Hakkinen
Niki Lauda

Lotus: (Golden history)
Jim Clark (Of course)
Elio De Angelis
Johnny Herbert (The Unlucky Man)

Brabham: (Of course we can!)
Jack Brabham
Carlos Reutemann
John Watson (No Comments)

Renault: (Allons frères de la patrie...)
Alain Prost
René Arnoux
Jean Alesi

Campos Racing (Por España!)
Fernando Alonso
Pedro De La Rosa
Félix Porteiro

Eagle-Weslake (The All-American team, one man team with 1 test pilot)
Dan Gurney (Obviously)
Mario Andretti

Honda (Itaiiii!!!)
Ukyo Katayama
Takuma Sato (Fun!)
Aguri Suzuki


Ferrari - Michael Schumacher / Gilles Villeneuve
McLaren-Honda - Ayrton Senna / Alain Prost
Williams-Renault - Nigel Mansell / Alan Jones
Lotus-Ford - Jim Clark / Ronnie Peterson
Tyrrell-Ford - Jackie Stewart / Jean Alesi
Benetton-Ford - Gerhard Berger / Riccardo Patrese
Renault - Fernando Alonso / Rene Arnoux
Brabham-BMW - Nelson Piquet / Jack Brabham
Eagle-Weslake - Dan Gurney
BRM - Graham Hill
Mercedes-Benz - Juan Manuel Fangio / Stirling Moss
Honda - John Surtees / Jenson Button
Ligier-Renault - J.P. Jabouille / Olivier Panis

[ArrowsFA1]

Benetton-Ford - Gerhard Berger / Riccardo Patrese
I'd best not let Riccardo see this :eek: He'd rather be Ferrari's third driver than go anywhere near a Benetton of any sort again :dozey: , or (more likely) prefer to race alongside Alan Jones at Williams :s mokin:

[Hawkmoon]

I'd best not let Riccardo see this :eek: He'd rather be Ferrari's third driver than go anywhere near a Benetton of any sort again :dozey: , or (more likely) prefer to race alongside Alan Jones at Williams :s mokin:

I wasn't sure where to put Riccardo. Arrows would have been a logical place but I didn't include them and the two Williams seats where already taken so I stuck him in the Benetton because I figured the guy who drove more GPs than anybody else deserved a place on any Fantasy Grid.

[futuretiger9]

Yes, on reflection I'd have Riccardo on my "ideal grid", driving the 1991 Williams-Renault. He'd be there because of his 256 GP starts, and because he's a great guy.

[Cozzie]

Ok here it is. I've decided to do two grids, one where anything goes and one more realistic grid.
Here is the former:
McLaren-Honda: Fernando Alonso, Bruce McLaren & Ayrton Senna
Ferrari: Michael Schumacher & Niki Lauda
Auto Union: Bernd Rosemeyer, Tazio Nuvolari &
Mercedes: Juan Manuel Fangio, Rudolf Caracciola & Stirling Moss
Williams-Ford: Nigel Mansell, Ricardo Patrese & Keke Roseberg
BMW: Wolfgang von Trips, Jackie Stewart, Francois Cevert & Robert Kubica
Brabham-Repco: Jack Brabham & Nelson Piquet
Renault: Rene Arnoux & Didier Pironi
Lotus-Ford: Jim Clark, Jochen Rindt & Graham Hill
Prost Peugeot (joint team): Alain Prost & Sebastian Bordais
VW-Lamborghini: Alberto Ascari & Hermann Lang
Minardi-Porsche: Pierluigi Martini & Andrea De Cesaris

As well as three or four other privateer teams.

[Cozzie]

And the more realistic grid:
McLaren-Mercedes: Fernando Alonso & Pedro De La Rosa
Ferrari: Michael Schumacher & Robert Kubica
Renault: Felipe Massa & Sebastian Bordais
Honda: Jenson Button & Anthony Davidson
BMW: Robert Kubica & Nico Hulkenberg
Spyker-Spyker: Tiego Montiero & Luca Badoer
Minardi-Ford: Timo Glock & Neel Jani
Jordan-Mercedes: Bruno Senna & Nick Heidfeld
VW-Lamborghini: Jarno Trulli & Sebastian Vettel
Lotus-Ford: Justin Wilson & AJ Allmendinger

As well as a couple more privateer teams

[ottostreet]

And the more realistic grid:
McLaren-Mercedes: Fernando Alonso & Pedro De La Rosa
Ferrari: Michael Schumacher & Robert Kubica
Renault: Felipe Massa & Sebastian Bordais
Honda: Jenson Button & Anthony Davidson
BMW: Robert Kubica & Nico Hulkenberg
Spyker-Spyker: Tiego Montiero & Luca Badoer
Minardi-Ford: Timo Glock & Neel Jani
Jordan-Mercedes: Bruno Senna & Nick Heidfeld
VW-Lamborghini: Jarno Trulli & Sebastian Vettel
Lotus-Ford: Justin Wilson & AJ Allmendinger

As well as a couple more privateer teams

how is robert kubica supposed to drive for ferrari & BMW? and absolutely no offence to you, but i think your second grid choice sucks. whats with all the second rate drivers?

[Placid]

My ideal dream grid:

McLaren: Alonso and Hamilton - Paffet testing.
Renault : Kovalainen and Heidfeld - B. Senna testing.
Ferrari : Raikonnen and Massa - Badoer testing.
Honda : Button and Klien - Marco testing.
BMW : Kubica and Glock - Vettel testing.
Toyota : Ralphie and Hirate - Philippe testing.
Red Bull : Webber and Liuzzi : Armenmuller testing.
Williams : Rosberg and Karthykeyian - Nakajima testing.
Toro Rosso : Bourdais and Speed : Ranger testing.
Spyker : Sutil and Albers : Duran testing.
Super Aguri : Sato and Davidson. Rahal testing.

[Roamy]

rak
alo
speed
wgaf

[ioan]

rak
alo
speed
wgaf

Is this some kind of tequila or just it's effect???

[Roamy]

actually ioan
I drink cuevo familia reserva
just try to get some !!! one of the finest on the planet
but if you happen by my casa of course I would share

[ioan]

actually ioan
I drink cuevo familia reserva
just try to get some !!! one of the finest on the planet
but if you happen by my casa of course I would share

Accepted!

PS: could you translate "wgaf", I'm still trying to find it's meaning.

[DazzlaF1]

Heres my suggestion

MCLAREN
1. Ayrton Senna
2. Mika Hakkinen

TYRRELL
3. Jackie Stewart
4. Jean Alesi

WILLIAMS
5. Nigel Mansell
6. Alan Jones

BRABHAM
7. Nelson Piquet
8. Jack Brabham

ARROWS
9. Derek Warwick
10. Riccardo Patrese

LOTUS
11. Jim Clark
12. Mario Andretti

RENAULT
15. Alain Prost
16. Fernando Alonso

JORDAN
19. Damon Hill
20. Rubens Barrichello

MINARDI
23. Mark Webber
24. Pierluigi Martini

LIGIER
25. Didier Pironi
26. Olivier Panis

FERRARI
27. Michael Schumacher
28. Gilles Villeneuve

SAUBER
29. Johnny Herbert
30. Kimi Raikkonen

[ClarkFan]

My ideal grid?

Okay...

Audi (Auto Union) - (Blast with some TITANS from the past, with JPM to keep it a bit modern)
Bernd Rosemeyer
Tazio Nuvolari
Juan Pablo Montoya
Lotus - (brilliant drivers who drove for Lotus who had a feel for the cars they drove)
Ayrton Senna
Jim Clark
Stirling Moss
McLaren Mercedes - (The Regenmeister vs The Professor vs The Maestro)
Rudolf Caracciola
Alain Prost
Juan Manuel Fangio
Ferrari - (real racing drivers with what I call a real racing mentality - for the romantics)
Gilles Villeneuve
Stefan Bellof
Ronnie Peterson
Kimi Raikkonen
Benneton/Renault - (the greatest drivers from the last 10 years)
Michael Schumacher
Fernando Alonso
Williams - (Tough drivers who beat other more naturally gifted drivers through iron hard will and determination - the battlers)
Alan Jones
Nigel Mansell


Oh yes... :p :

I'd pay a lot of money to see that race!


And to hear what JPM had to say about the size of his teammates' cojones afterward!

:D

ClarkFan

[Cozzie]

how is robert kubica supposed to drive for ferrari & BMW? and absolutely no offence to you, but i think your second grid choice sucks. whats with all the second rate drivers?

Oh, ummm, Kubica switches mid season :) . Who else are you going to choose among the current group of drivers?

[Roamy]

Accepted!

PS: could you translate "wgaf", I'm still trying to find it's meaning.

Who gives a ****

[LeonBrooke]

Who gives a ****

Oh come on, he asked a serious question, it's only fair to answer it ;)

[W8&C]

I´m surprised that Mario Andretti is mentioned only two times. Not being a fan of american drivers, I have to admit that his performance in the Lotus 78 wing car was one of the most stunning things I´ve ever witnessed within 35 years of watching F1.

So for me: Lotus / Marion Andretti / Jochen Rindt / Jim Clark
(yes, ´em have enough sponsorship to run a 3 car team :) )