Pwrc 2009

[bstrat]

Hello everyone. I was just wandering does anyone know who will be competing all the PWRC events in 2009. That way I can get an idea of who our (Australian) boys will be competing stage times with as our national championship consits of group N/S2000 cars. I suggest that the normal WRCars will be competing but it would be great to see some Finnish drivers up there as I here its very similar just without the jumps. Very Fast :D :D

[Tomi]

Hello everyone. I was just wandering does anyone know who will be competing all the PWRC events in 2009. That way I can get an idea of who our (Australian) boys will be competing stage times with as our national championship consits of group N/S2000 cars. I suggest that the normal WRCars will be competing but it would be great to see some Finnish drivers up there as I here its very similar just without the jumps. Very Fast :D :D

I think our current PWRC guys will drive selected events in WRC cars next year, sofar there is no news if anyone will drive PWRC next year, but it would be nice if someone would, Salo maybe.

[Motorsportfun]

I've talked to Armindo Araujo last Friday, and he said there are some possibilities to be once again in the PWRC field in 2009. ;)

[chryby]

Probably, Martin Prokop will go PWRC 2009 with S2000 car.

[ProRally]

Rumor has it that Nasser would consider PWRC but with S2000 car

He has/had very bad season in 2008 PWRC but at least he is World Champion in the FIA Cross Country/Baja events

[Sulland]

What will the split btw Gr N and S2000 cars in 09 ?

50/50 or will Gr N cars still outnumber S2000 ?

[ProRally]

Group N will outnumber the S2000 cars.

S2000 is just too expensive for most drivers, and in current economic difficult times it makes it even harder.

[Sulland]

Will Sandell continue in 09 ?

[Vilius]

Hi,
Did Martin Rauam will start in 2009 season? any news from him?

[urabus-denoS2000]

Heard rumors that Milos Komljenovic will start PWRC next year,maybe in an S2000

[PLuto]

Group N will outnumber the S2000 cars.

S2000 is just too expensive for most drivers, and in current economic difficult times it makes it even harder.

Next year, you will probably see one in Romania :rolleyes:

[bstrat]

I was hoping there would be more S2000s. :(

[Wim_Impreza]

I was hoping there would be more S2000s. :(

As I said some months ago, it is named Production World Rally Championship. S2000 cars are not Production, so you must be lucky that they are even allowed in PWRC.

[bstrat]

As I said some months ago, it is named Production World Rally Championship. S2000 cars are not Production, so you must be lucky that they are even allowed in PWRC.


Yeah true. The Ford Fiestas and Toyota Corollas will probably have to do for the Repco Rally Oz. Oh well they are awsome.

[Tom206wrc]

If Guillaume Canivenq wins the Pirelli Star Trophy he sure will be in PWRC09 with an S2000 ;)

[PLuto]

As I said some months ago, it is named Production World Rally Championship. S2000 cars are not Production, so you must be lucky that they are even allowed in PWRC.

S2000 are via regulations in category "Productio cars". So they are allowed in PCWRC...

[PLuto]

If Guillaume Canivenq wins the Pirelli Star Trophy he sure will be in PWRC09 with an S2000 ;)

Everybody who will wil Pirelli Star Trophy will be in PCWRC 2009, of course :D

[pantealex]

Still only 28 places (total 30-2guest drivers) available for PWRC 2009 (and probably Pirelli stars take 5 of them) In 2008 serie is fully booked, so somebody must step out or we don´t see any new drivers/teams!
http://wrc.com/resources/2009%20pwrc_sales_leaflet.pdf

[OldF]

There will be some changes in the N4 regulations for 2009.

- Min. weight of the cars is 1350 kg
- Water spray system on the intercooler
- It will be possible to use the turbocharger homologated in group N option variant (VO)
- It will be possible to use brake cooling ducts homologated as a group N option variant (VO)

The restrictor is still 32 mm so IMO the S2000 will still be faster.

[Mirek]

OldF: I think that water spray system is already used...

[RS]

There will be some changes in the N4 regulations for 2009.

- Min. weight of the cars is 1350 kg
- Water spray system on the intercooler
- It will be possible to use the turbocharger homologated in group N option variant (VO)
- It will be possible to use brake cooling ducts homologated as a group N option variant (VO)

The restrictor is still 32 mm so IMO the S2000 will still be faster.

What is the current minimum weight of an N4 car?

[Mirek]

I think 1310 but all new cars are heavier (1360 kg in Evo X homologation, 1350 kg in Evo IX and N14, 1340 in N12 - if I remember well).

[OldF]

What is the current minimum weight of an N4 car?

The minimum weight for a group N car is individual. For example the min weight for Mitsu Evo9 is 1310 kg and for EvoX it’s 1370 kg.

[OldF]

]OldF: I think that water spray system is already used...

I know that Subaru has one but I’m not sure about Mitsubishi. I interpret this as you can add and homologate a spray system if the original car doesn’t have one.

[ProRally]

Still only 28 places (total 30-2guest drivers) available for PWRC 2009 (and probably Pirelli stars take 5 of them) In 2008 serie is fully booked, so somebody must step out or we don´t see any new drivers/teams!
http://wrc.com/resources/2009%20pwrc_sales_leaflet.pdf

So 30 minus 2 guests minus 5 Pirelli remains 23 entry's...

With the entry's closing on 15 december (less then a month away) and with 2008 fully booked, could become interesting.

[dimviii]

@OldF
all the jdm evos have the intercooler water spray(vii-viii-viii mr-ix-ix mr)
also some europeans editions of vii-viii.

[OldF]

@OldF
all the jdm evos have the intercooler water spray(vii-viii-viii mr-ix-ix mr)
also some europeans editions of vii-viii.

Yes, it’s true, I checked both Evo9 & EvoX group A homologations forms. Then I don’t know what’s the point with that part of the regulations.

[Mirek]

Martin Prokop and Jaromír Tarabus were testing for Walles with assistance of Roman Kresta. There were also some prize drives for winners of some competition: http://pepafotorally.rajce.idnes.cz/081118_Test_Cervena_Voda/

[ZequeArgentina]

There will be some changes in the N4 regulations for 2009.

- Min. weight of the cars is 1350 kg
- Water spray system on the intercooler
- It will be possible to use the turbocharger homologated in group N option variant (VO)
- It will be possible to use brake cooling ducts homologated as a group N option variant (VO)

The restrictor is still 32 mm so IMO the S2000 will still be faster.

Brakes and weight is main problem for group N cars (specially in tarmac).
But a 34 mm restrictor is a very easy way to get them gain performance.
Unfortunately, I agree with you, S200 while still more unreliable are faster way faster.
Pitty as group N cars, were the only real link betwen rally and road cars!

[Mirek]

ZequeArgentina: Sorry, but S2000 are more relliable than gr.N cars in IRC rallys where there is more S2000 than one or two.

[bluuford]

]ZequeArgentina: Sorry, but S2000 are more relliable than gr.N cars in IRC rallys where there is more S2000 than one or two.

I agree that Group N cars are less reliable on tarmac. But on gravel, well prepared group N car seems to be still little bit more reliable. The reliability problems are often related to low budget and poor service. Group N is cheaper to drive and therefore often the teams are running with very low budget and a little bit "lightly" serviced car. S2000 teams are usually well funded and cars are better serviced.
Good example for perfect reliability was Estonian championship winners car (well our roads are also better than the average WRC roads). New group N Subaru serviced by Markko Märtin team didn't had any reliability problems during the whole season (7 rallies and approximately 800km of special stages). And it won 4 out of seven rallies in group N.

[ZequeArgentina]

]ZequeArgentina: Sorry, but S2000 are more relliable than gr.N cars in IRC rallys where there is more S2000 than one or two.

In WRC long and tought rallies like cyprus, or even here in Argentina Sandell himself commented that about his peugeot S2000 vs group N Subs or Lancers.

It is just reasonable, S2000 are still new cars, just first cars, without further evolutions.

[Mirek]

Sandell was the only one. Statistics from rallys where there is more S2000 say opposite. One car is not enough to judge anything.

There were 32 gr. N and 1 S2000 in Argentina. Yes, that one had problems but 14 gr. N also retired and there was superally crew even on seventh place overal (Prokop). All N14 retired.

In Turkey there was 1 S2000 and 24 gr.N. Sandell finished second. Only 12 (1/2) gr.N finished even the first leg. Only 7 finished without superally.

[dumb]

According to http://www.rallynews.lt Latvian N4 vice-champion Andis Neikšans will start in PWRC 2009.
He will run in these rallies: Norvegia,Cyprus,Portugal,Sardinia,Acropolis,Wales.

[ProRally]

Rumor has it that the Pirelli supported cars are going to be Mitsu Evo9 from Ralliart Italy

Anybody heard something else ?

[urabus-denoS2000]

I heard they would be running Evo X...

[ProRally]

I heard they would be running Evo X...

But still run by Ralliart Italy ?

[urabus-denoS2000]

But still run by Ralliart Italy ?
Yep,but thats what I heard

[urabus-denoS2000]

Hermann Gassner jr. is doing PWRC 2009

[Sulland]

Strange that Sandell is not driving faster. Why ?

[Tom206wrc]

Strange that Sandell is not driving faster. Why ?



Looks like terrain and conditions aren't so good for S2000 non-turbo engines(he's complaining of lack of traction) :(

[Tom206wrc]

Sulland !!! Sandell heard your critics of his yesterday pace, and look at the results !!! He's 2nd PWRC, 20s behind Flodin after SS11 :D :p :


Joke appart, today terrain seems to better suit to S2000(less ice, less slide, more grip, more dry...than yesterday) ;)

[garais22]

Next year one Latvian crew will participate in PWRC in six rallies..(Europa)
Andis Neiksans/Peteris Dzirkals, who this year in rally Finland WRC in N4 class gain 5 (!!) place
http://esports.lv/motosports/wrc/27112008-a_neiksana_ekipaza_startes_pasaules_ralli
There are results: http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?event=157&category=6

[ProRally]

Lets try to make a list with 'possible' PWRC 2009

[Tomi]

atleast Nikara from here, Hänninen said 3 days ago also that he would like to continiue in WRC but nothing ready yet, economic situation might cause prolems with sponsors.

[RS]

Hanninen says on his website:

"The championship would have been a fine thing, however, this result won’t have any impact on next year. Driving will continue also in the next season. What the class is going to be will be found out in the near future."

I guess he is able to continue in pWRC too, if he finds budget for that.

[pantealex]

Ketomaa says that he will be there 2009

[ProRally]

So :

Mark Tapper (Pirelli drive) APRC
Nikara (Pirelli drive) Europe
Semerad (Pirelli drive) Europe
... (Pirelli drive) MERC
... (Pirelli drive) African RC
Ketomaa (Fin)
Arai ? (Jap)
Neiksans (LT)
Al Attiyah ? (Qat)
Nutahara ? (Jap)

[Mirek]

Prorally: missing Pirelli drivers are:

Africa - Jon Williams
MERC - Nicos Thoma

Prokop should continue.

[dumb]

So :

Mark Tapper (Pirelli drive) APRC
Nikara (Pirelli drive) Europe
Semerad (Pirelli drive) Europe
... (Pirelli drive) MERC
... (Pirelli drive) African RC
Ketomaa (Fin)
Arai ? (Jap)
Neiksans (LT)
Al Attiyah ? (Qat)
Nutahara ? (Jap)

Neikšans is from Latvia (LV) not from Lithuania (LT).

[JRodrigues]

Bernardo Sousa has been confimed as well

[RS]

Bernardo Sousa has been confimed as well

Still with Red Bull?

[JRodrigues]

Still with Red Bull?

Yep...

[GigiGalliNo1]

What about Kuzaj? :(

[ProRally]

Update 1 :

Mark Tapper (Pirelli drive) APRC
Nikara (Pirelli drive) Europe
Semerad (Pirelli drive) Europe
Nicos Thoma (Pirelli drive) MERC
Jon Williams (Pirelli drive) African RC
Ketomaa (Fin)
Arai ? (Jap)
Neiksans (LV)
Al Attiyah ? (Qat)
Nutahara ? (Jap)
Sousa (PT)
Prokop (CZ)

[ProRally]

bump

[c4]

Unfortunately Peugeot Sweden won't be doing the PWRC in '09
http://www.rallybuzz.com/peugeot-sweden-close-rally-operation/

[Tom206wrc]

Hope still S2000s in PWRC09 :mark:

[ProRally]

Hope still S2000s in PWRC09 :mark:

There is rumor that Nasser will have Peugeot S2000 in PWRC09 , but not confirm yet

[atsiotras79]

Neiksans will compete in PWRC with Evo9 and the team's name will be "LMT/Vergina Inforally Team".

Greek team, Vergina Inforally, also provided services in this year's PWRC for Novikov, Aksakov and Campedelli.

[Tom206wrc]

There is rumor that Nasser will have Peugeot S2000 in PWRC09 , but not confirm yet



Interesting, because I've read in Turbomagazine(belgian motorsports news website)that Kronos would engage a 207 next year in Al Attiyah's country for local championship..maybe it has a link ??? ;)

[Mirek]

No Tom, Kronos will prepare car for Saudi Yazeed Al Rajhi.

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7751

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks for the info Mirek... ;)

[Tom206wrc]

There is rumor that Nasser will have Peugeot S2000 in PWRC09 , but not confirm yet


If it's not Kronos, what team would prepare Al Attiyah's 207 in Pwrc ??? :confused:

[dazzman]

If it's not Kronos, what team would prepare Al Attiyah's 207 in Pwrc ??? :confused:

Autotek

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Dazzman... ;)



Edit: do you mean the australian Autotek( http://www.autotek.com.au ) :confused:

[Mirek]

Aigner is said to end his cooperation with RedBull team...

[ProRally]

Again like in 2000 with Manfred Stohl, a PWRC Champion in Austria who does not find a program for the year after.

[COD]

Again like in 2000 with Manfred Stohl, a PWRC Champion in Austria who does not find a program for the year after.

OMV paid a good program for Stohl in the years to come though.

And just proves two things:

1) RB doesn't see future in WRC at the moment

2) Being champion is no guarantee of a place, being fast is better than being reliable (nee Hänninen and Skoda deal)

[Mirek]

COD, Aigner took points four times, three times for victory (consecutive) and once for second spot. You say he wasn't fast???

[OzNav]

The Pirelli guys are not actually going to be registered for or running in the PWRC, although the drivers can pay extra out of their own pocket to register and do the extra rounds (not all rounds Pirelli are running them in are PWRC).

[c4]

Red Bull statement re: Aigner split
http://www.rallybuzz.com/aigner-red-bull-suspend-cooperation/

[Tom206wrc]

Aigner in IRC in S2000...quick !!!! :cool:

[RS]

Aigner in IRC in S2000...quick !!!! :cool:

It would be nice if he could resume his battle with Hanninen next year.

[Tom206wrc]

According to someone in a french forum, Frédéric Sauvan should engage his team's Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX in Pwrc09... ;)

[pantealex]

]COD, Aigner took points four times, three times for victory (consecutive) and once for second spot. You say he wasn't fast???

http://wrc.com/resources/P-WRC%20GB%20Round-up%2007.12.08.pdf page 5 and 6
Aigner 11 (1+3+2+5+0+0) fastest SS-times
Hänninen 49 (4+13+9+13+10+0) fastest SS-times
Sandell (total19) was also lot faster than Aigner.

Hänninen was clearly faster but Aigner is still champion!

[pantealex]

The Pirelli guys are not actually going to be registered for or running in the PWRC, although the drivers can pay extra out of their own pocket to register and do the extra rounds (not all rounds Pirelli are running them in are PWRC).
Pirelli stars will have P3-status like PWRC/JWRC-drivers, so better starting positions for them also in day2 and day3.

[Tom206wrc]

Why no PWRC09 entrylist yet ??? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

So according to Mirek, Jaromir Tarabus would run the Pwrc09 in his Fiat Grande Punto S2000 ;)

[J.Lindstroem]

http://wrc.com/resources/P-WRC%20GB%20Round-up%2007.12.08.pdf page 5 and 6
Aigner 11 (1+3+2+5+0+0) fastest SS-times
Hänninen 49 (4+13+9+13+10+0) fastest SS-times
Sandell (total19) was also lot faster than Aigner.

Hänninen was clearly faster but Aigner is still champion!

How do you get this statistics from other years and from WRC? Do you have to be a member of the wrc.com?

[PLuto]

So according to Mirek, Jaromir Tarabus would run the Pwrc09 in his Fiat Grande Punto S2000 ;)

He will be registered as team. He will sure start in Norway and then maybe in Portugal. Other events will depend on results.

[Mirek]

Tarabus should be present on 3 PWRC events (snow + 2 gravel).

[PLuto]

]Tarabus should be present on 3 PWRC events (snow + 2 gravel).

Norway, Portugal and Wales

[ProRally]

Flodin closing in on a deal with URT for PWRC
Would be interesting, he has the speed

[Mirek]

Yes and URT can built realy good car :)

[Allyc85]

I will be following Floodin closely next year. His sideways style at Rally GB showed that group N cars can be entertaining in the right hands :D

[Tomi]

I will be following Floodin closely next year. His sideways style at Rally GB showed that group N cars can be entertaining in the right hands :D

Agree properly driven its nice to watch, the problem is also that the WRC rallies are so long that the guys have to save the cars quite much, I think it was Ketomaa who once said in a interview that they drive about 90% of what they drive in national championship.

[Tom206wrc]

No more news about PWRC09 ??? :confused:


Norway will be the first round, and entrylist closes on 9th january...still no season entrylist from FIA... :mark:

[ProRally]

'normally' FIA publish just after New Year...
But I have not heard more news than already here.

[Tomi]

'normally' FIA publish just after New Year...
But I have not heard more news than already here.

Hi, you asked somewhere about K.Sohlberg, well he is doing Finnish Championship with Tommi Mäkinen Racing and selected WRC events in a GrN.

[Tom206wrc]

'normally' FIA publish just after New Year...
But I have not heard more news than already here.



Tomorrow then :confused:

[ProRally]

Tomorrow then :confused:

Tom, it is the FIA ..... so you never know :D :D :D

[Tom206wrc]

Any news about the project of Al Attiyah to run an S2000 ???? :confused:

[eppel]

Will we see Travis Pastrana this year in the PWRC?

[ProRally]

Will we see Travis Pastrana this year in the PWRC?

Last I heard was, NO, only the Rally America championship

[Tom206wrc]

So I write the info of Koppomsbo in this thread: Patrik Sandell in PWRC09 with Skoda Fabia S2000 :D

[A.F.F.]

So I write the info of Koppomsbo in this thread: Patrik Sandell in PWRC09 with Skoda Fabia S2000 :D

That is brilliant news :up:

[Tom206wrc]

No entrylist yet ?? :mark:

[Mirek]

Martin Semerád will frive not only Pirelli drive (4 rally in PWRC) but also Norway and Cyprus on his own to have 6 PWRC.

[Micke_VOC]

Patrik Flodin have confirmed to drive PWRC with URT team
=)
First event is Norway and before that he will do first round of russian championship for testing.

[Tom206wrc]

We won't have Pwrc entrylist before Rally Norway entrylist then ??? :(

[Sulland]

Brynildsen will also do P-WRC for Ralliart New Zealand:
http://www.motorsport.no/wip4/kjoerer_vm-sesongen/d.epl?cat=13747&id=407204

Translated: http://translate.google.no/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorsport.no%2Fwip4% 2Fkjoerer_vm-sesongen%2Fd.epl%3Fcat%3D13747%26id%3D407204&sl=no&tl=en&hl=no&ie=UTF-8

Can become a good field this year !

[JRodrigues]

Araújo confirms his entry: http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?p=stories&op=view&fokey=as.stories/64182

Translated: http://translate.google.pt/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fautosport.aeiou.pt%2Fgen. pl%3Fp%3Dstories%26op%3Dview%26fokey%3Das.stories% 2F64182&sl=pt&tl=en&hl=pt-PT&ie=UTF-8

[bluuford]

Update 1 :

Mark Tapper (Pirelli drive) APRC
Nikara (Pirelli drive) Europe
Semerad (Pirelli drive) Europe
Nicos Thoma (Pirelli drive) MERC
Jon Williams (Pirelli drive) African RC
Ketomaa (Fin)
Arai ? (Jap)
Neiksans (LV)
Al Attiyah ? (Qat)
Nutahara ? (Jap)
Sousa (PT)
Prokop (CZ)

Update 2:
PWRC
1 Sandell
2 Brynildsen
3 Neiksans
4 Araujo
5 Flodin
6 Semerad
7 Tarabus
8 Sauvan
9 Prokop
10 Sousa
11 Tapper
12 Nikara
13 Thoma
14 Williams
15 Ketomaa?
16 Arai?
17 Attyah?
18 Nutahara?
19 Hänninen?

[COD]

Update 2:
PWRC
1 Sandell
2 Brynildsen
3 Neiksans
4 Araujo
5 Flodin
6 Semerad
7 Tarabus
8 Sauvan
9 Prokop
10 Sousa
11 Tapper
12 Nikara
13 Thoma
14 Williams
15 Ketomaa?
16 Arai?
17 Attyah?
18 Nutahara?
19 Hänninen?

I think Hänninen will do IRC and maybe a few WRC events. Nikara also probably only the 6 Pirelli events

[A.F.F.]

I think Hänninen will do IRC and maybe a few WRC events.

With Skoda you mean?

[c4]

Shaun Gallagher could well be registering for the PWRC in an Evo 9
http://www.rallybuzz.com/gulf-oil-world-rally-team-ireland/

[Tom206wrc]

But why the hell FIA didn't publish PWRC09 entrylist yet ???? :(

[A.F.F.]

And where are the frigging shakedown times???? :mad:

[Tom206wrc]

Nooooo an Evo X finally for Nasser Al Attiyah and not a 207 S2000 !!!!! ;( ;( ;(

http://www.autoklub.pl/22946,news.html

[Daniel]

And where are the frigging shakedown times???? :mad:

Bwahahahahahaaha :rotflmao:

[PLuto]

Nooooo an Evo X finally for Nasser Al Attiyah and not a 207 S2000 !!!!! ;( ;( ;(

http://www.autoklub.pl/22946,news.html

It is for Middle East Championship. We will see if he will have the same decision for PCWRC.

[alleskids]

Too bad, I wanted Al Attiyah in a S2000, also in the MERC, were already a S2000 is.

[Tom206wrc]

Too bad, I wanted Al Attiyah in a S2000, also in the MERC, were already a S2000 is.



Yes, Yazeer Al Rajhi could be and feel very alone :(

[Karbonyl]

There was already in 2008 Ahmed Al Sabban with Corolla S2000 ;) He was then the one alone :)

[Mirek]

Again slow... aghhhrrr :D

At least we know who Baumschlager sold his Evo X to...

[CWJ]

Shaun Gallagher could well be registering for the PWRC in an Evo 9
http://www.rallybuzz.com/gulf-oil-world-rally-team-ireland/

dont think so, its only for national tarmac champ except galway rally because of his work at john haugland rally school

[JRodrigues]

Bernardo Sousa is still unsure of what team he will be.. There's still the possibility of BRR, but he could also be with the portuguese team Gomes Sport..

[ProRally]

Strange that Nasser parted with Autotek team

[PLuto]

Julien Maurin with Punto S2000 in PCWRC?

[Tom206wrc]

Julien Maurin with Punto S2000 in PCWRC?



Would be interesting if true... ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Would be interesting if true... ;)

I think it could became true... you can read it here.. ;)

http://www.rallylink.it/news/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3569:mrt-by-nocentini-toni-gardemeister-al-rally-di-monte-carlo&catid=35:comunicati&Itemid=27

[Tom206wrc]

Any idea of all Pwrc entrants in Norway, officially closed today ??? :confused:

[skarderud]

andreas mikkelsen is going to do rally norway and 5 others pwrc in a n14, as a teammate to patrik flodin in a russian team.
and subarucup in norway whole season. nice!

[Fri]

Any idea of all Pwrc entrants in Norway, officially closed today ??? :confused:

Hungarian Gergő Szabó will drive his E9. Team owner and driver, Gábor Mayer has taken collection of two new Prodrive Impreza N14s to compete with in the PWRC and various rallies in Hungary throughout 2009.

[pantealex]

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2009/Pages/pcwrc_entrants.aspx
List of PWRC entries from FIA, only 19 cars.

[Tom206wrc]

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2009/Pages/pcwrc_entrants.aspx
List of PWRC entries from FIA, only 19 cars.



Autotek "JM Engineering" means the team will use Grande Punto S2000(logically for Nasser Al Attiyah) ??? :confused:

[Mirek]

Partly yes, partly not. 3 events will be driven by Tarabus and 3 by someone else, maybe Al Attiyah, I don't know...

[PLuto]

It should be some driver from Cyprus (or it was in first plans, but we will see).

[Xsara Fan]

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2009/Pages/pcwrc_entrants.aspx
List of PWRC entries from FIA, only 19 cars.

I don`t understand one thing - where is Andreas Mikkelsen? URT has only one car.

[ProRally]

I don`t understand one thing - where is Andreas Mikkelsen? URT has only one car.

Like before, you can 'enter' PWRC if FIA ok your entry, but with only 19 entries they will be more then happy to 'accept' any late entries....
BIG difference with 2008 when PWRC was 'sold' out....

JWRC with 9 is even worse....

[PLuto]

I don`t understand one thing - where is Andreas Mikkelsen? URT has only one car.

Mikkelsen will start in Norway as "joker card". He is trying to find a budget and register into PCWRC after Rally Norway.

[polo10]

Bernardo Sousa with Punto S2000 in PWRC...
http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?p=stories&op=view&fokey=as.stories/65015

[Eyvind]

It should be some driver from Cyprus (or it was in first plans, but we will see).

Spyros Pavlides ? :confused:

[Sardalense]

Bernard Sousa will drive a Fiat Grand Punto S2000 in 2009

http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?p=stories&op=view&fokey=as.stories/65155

[mdesign]

I'm glab Bernardo Sousa in participating on the pwrc :) But, according to the new, he is using the same Fiat used last year by jose pedro fontes in the portuguese championship, wich is a old old spec Fiat...

[urabus-denoS2000]

http://www.madeira-rally.net/artigos/fotos/sousa.jpg

So I guess he stops with Red Bull?

[JAM]

He will use a Punto with the last evolutions available. And yes, he is not connect to Red Bulk, this year.

[Tom206wrc]

Nasser Al Attiyah in Skoda Fabia S2000 at PWRC09 ??? :confused:



Gutted there will be no 207 in that championship this year :mad:

[Mirek]

It should be second car from BRR, but in the moment nothing confirmed...

[Mirek]

It looks like I was wrong with BRR. We'll see...

[Sulland]

Nasser Al Attiyah in Skoda Fabia S2000 at PWRC09 ??? :confused:

Where did that come from ? Is it verifyed somewhere ?

[Mirek]

Yes, it is but the problem is if they get some free car...
http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7904

[swordsman]

Where did that come from ? Is it verifyed somewhere ?

I've got no clue what's written in the Autosport article but in the beginning it was written here, in english: http://www.maxattack.net/2009/02/al-attiyah-negotiating-with-skoda-may-bring-tina-thorner-back-into-the-wrc/

[PLuto]

I've got no clue what's written in the Autosport article but in the beginning it was written here, in english: http://www.maxattack.net/2009/02/al-attiyah-negotiating-with-skoda-may-bring-tina-thorner-back-into-the-wrc/

I didnt know, what was written in this article, but on the Autosport it is almost the same. And my sources are very close to the crew :rolleyes:

[swordsman]

I didnt know, what was written in this article, but on the Autosport it is almost the same. And my sources are very close to the crew :rolleyes:

Good, because my sources are also very close to the crew :) So there's absolutely no doubt that things are happening. Question is what! :)

[PLuto]

Problem is, that Skoda has lot of orders and they are not able to do all cars in time...

[Tom206wrc]

Problem is, that Skoda has lot of orders and they are not able to do all cars in time...



Better is to chose an already on market 207 then... :p :

[garais22]

Good start for PWRC driver Andis Neiksans/Peteris Dzirkals, who win the "Winter rally 2009" in Lithuania with training car (!!)

1.Saulius Girdauskas/Paulius Urbonas Skoda Fabia WRC A+ 50:38.9
2.Andis Neikšans/Peteris Dzirkals Mitsubishi Evo IX N4, +00:52.4
3.Aivis Egle/Martins Jerums Mitsubishi Evo IX N4, +00:55.4
4. Rokas Lipeikis/Renatas Vaitkevičius Mitsubishi Evo VIII A8, +02:00.7

http://parsportu.lv/f/resources/articles/17173/l/dsc_8799.jpg

[garais22]

http://www.neiksans.lv/open_gallery.php?list=123&id=1

[Mirek]

Better is to chose an already on market 207 then... :p :

Not much better situation with Peugeot...

[Tom206wrc]

]Not much better situation with Peugeot...



No not the same, because there are already plenty of 207s on the market, unlike the Skodas ;)

[GigiGalliNo1]

What is Andreas Mikkelsen doing in PWRC this year?

No WRC? :|

[tolis]

Andreas will do rally Norway in PWRC, as a wildcard.He is trying to find budget in order to run all PWRC this season.

[Mirek]

No not the same, because there are already plenty of 207s on the market, unlike the Skodas ;)

You're right but with new ones it's similar ;)

[ProRally]

I heard Skoda just finnished car nr 4 , so it is going slow

[Mirek]

You're not right. Kopecký and Hänninen used No. 5 and 6 on Monte. Nr. 3 or 4 is in BRR for Sandell (I don't know which one was destroyed in testing). There are at least 11 bodyshells made but don't know how much complete cars because it's realy slow.

[ProRally]

]You're not right. Kopecký and Hänninen used No. 5 and 6 on Monte. Nr. 3 or 4 is in BRR for Sandell (I don't know which one was destroyed in testing). There are at least 11 bodyshells made but don't know how much complete cars because it's realy slow.

Mirek,

Shells WITH roll cage completed ?

[Mirek]

I think so, but without guarantee ;)

[Sulland]

I heard Skoda just finnished car nr 4 , so it is going slow

They will get the hang of it, and speed will go up !

Do we know anything about prices for the complete car ?

[PLuto]

265 e

[JRodrigues]

New painting for Armindo Araújo. Evo X mostly probably from Portugal onwards.

http://desporto.autohoje.com/images/stories/RAL_NOTICIAS2/04012009_araujo_500.jpg

[pettersolberg29]

Lovely looking.

[JRodrigues]

http://alojamentos19.com/~ralis/maquearmdi09.jpg

[A.F.F.]

New painting for Armindo Araújo. Evo X mostly probably from Portugal onwards.

http://desporto.autohoje.com/images/stories/RAL_NOTICIAS2/04012009_araujo_500.jpg

Reminds me a little bit of Martini livery. But just a little bit :)

[Sulland]

We should have had Pickems for PWRC as well, but since we dont - who will end up on the Podium in Rally Norway in P-WRC ?

[Wim_Impreza]

I think this:
1 Brynildsen
2 Flodin
3 Mikkelsen

[WRC1]

my guess:

1.sandell
2.flodin
3.mikkelsen

[hari]

I think:

1. Sandell
2. Prokop
3. Flodin

[Sulland]

1: Sandell
2: Mikkelsen
3: Flodin

[J.Lindstroem]

my guess:

1.sandell
2.flodin
3.mikkelsen

Sandell Flodin sounds good my friend but i think Mikkelsen has got the upper hand! My top 3:

1. Mikkelsen
2. Sandell
3. Flodin

[Brother John]

1: Sandell
2: Mikkelsen
3: Flodin


I go for the same result. :up:

[WRC1]

Sandell Flodin sounds good my friend but i think Mikkelsen has got the upper hand! My top 3:

1. Mikkelsen
2. Sandell
3. Flodin

yeah, if they where on equal machines i would agree, but with sandell in s2000 i go for patrik.

the only "disadvantage" for a s2000 is less power and torque and in my opinion this point is not that important in norway, more important are weight, brakes, gearbox and suspension and in all of this points a s2000 has big advantage.
so if patrik stay´s out of troubles i think he is unbeatable.

but lets see, i think pwrc will be more interesting to follow in norway (and during the whole year) than the other championship...

reg

wrc1

[J.Lindstroem]

yeah, if they where on equal machines i would agree, but with sandell in s2000 i go for patrik.

the only "disadvantage" for a s2000 is less power and torque and in my opinion this point is not that important in norway, more important are weight, brakes, gearbox and suspension and in all of this points a s2000 has big advantage.
so if patrik stay´s out of troubles i think he is unbeatable.

but lets see, i think pwrc will be more interesting to follow in norway (and during the whole year) than the other championship...

reg

wrc1

I agree on the final part also but id say that Petter is making things a little more interesting. Íf he hits trouble in the beginning of the rally, Pwrc is far much more interesting.

[JRodrigues]

1: Flodin
2: Mikkelsen
3: Sandell

[Viking]

1: Sandell
2: Mikkelsen
3: Prokop

[pantealex]

1)Flodin
2)Sandell
3)Mikkelsen

[FabiaFan]

Sandell-Flodin-Mikkelsen...Mikkelsen-Flodin-Sandel...Sandell-Mikkelsen-Flodin...
Aren't there any other N4 competitors in Norway ... ;-)

[Sturla]

If Mikkelsen shows anything near his speed in the last two snow events here in Norway I don`t see anyone stands in his way... Not even a top spec s2000 car.

[Viking]

Sandell-Flodin-Mikkelsen...Mikkelsen-Flodin-Sandel...Sandell-Mikkelsen-Flodin...
Aren't there any other N4 competitors in Norway ... ;-)

Hey, I put in Prokop ;)

I am quite sure PWRC win will be one of this five, Mikkelsen-Flodin-Sandell-Prokop-Brynildsen.
But I am hoping there will be some surprises :)

[Tom206wrc]

Sandell-Flodin-Mikkelsen...Mikkelsen-Flodin-Sandel...Sandell-Mikkelsen-Flodin...
Aren't there any other N4 competitors in Norway ... ;-)


1-Sandell
2-Sandell
3-Sandell

:p : :p :

[JFL]

Anders Kjær could be competetive.. Maybe not for a win, but top 5!

[harriswrc]

1)Sandell
2)Flodin
3)Brynildsen

[ProRally]

Flodin
Sandell
Arai

[Mirek]

Sandell was asked to compare Fabia and Peugeot. He said that Fabia had better suspension and handling and was more fun to drive.

[Shrike]

Arai starts with a 5 minute penalty due to engine failure.

[FabiaFan]

]Sandell was asked to compare Fabia and Peugeot. He said that Fabia had better suspension and handling and was more fun to drive. Can you imagine him saying the opposite? :s

[RS]

Can you imagine him saying the opposite? :s

Fair point, but I believe him. Have you seen the interview videos with him since his first Fabia test? It is easy to see that he enjoyed himself very much.

[ProRally]

Arai starts with a 5 minute penalty due to engine failure.

There goes my top 3 !!!! Thanks Toshi... :D :D

[Sulland]

Again the Fabia are impressing right out of the box for a new team, so far it is holding up as well.

I think the orders will continue to pour in to Skoda Motorsport !

[ProRally]

Again the Fabia are impressing right out of the box for a new team, so far it is holding up as well.

I think the orders will continue to pour in to Skoda Motorsport !

And they can't keep up even now, at least 6 to 10 month delay already now

[Sulland]

So put more people into building them !

They need to use the opportunity while they have it !!!

[Mirek]

It's not easy for team which never had such large client programme. They are not Peugeot Sport with large experience in running dozens of cars everywhere. We'll see...

Sulland: Building is not the only problem. You need enough technicians to maintain and service the cars etc. That's not that easy to manage and those engineers are not common workers...

[Sulland]

]It's not easy for team which never had such large client programme. They are not Peugeot Sport with large experience in running dozens of cars everywhere. We'll see...

Sulland: Building is not the only problem. You need enough technicians to maintain and service the cars etc. That's not that easy to manage and those engineers are not common workers...


Agree with that, but they need to start a trainee program then to get more of them. It is a double edged sword; you are in the business to sell cars, also rally cars, and when people want to buy to use them, and can not get one for a year, they will buy something else, and you will loose money, and not get as many of your cars in rallies !

But of course they need to be able to service the cars they sell also, difficult situation !

[L5->R5/CR]

]It's not easy for team which never had such large client programme. They are not Peugeot Sport with large experience in running dozens of cars everywhere. We'll see...

Sulland: Building is not the only problem. You need enough technicians to maintain and service the cars etc. That's not that easy to manage and those engineers are not common workers...


I hear there are a lot of ex-Prodive, Mitsubishi Motors, and Suzuki Sport/Rally Team employees available on the job market...

[Viking]

Sandell-Brynildsen-Prokop, anyone??? :)

[FabiaFan]

Sandell-Brynildsen-Prokop, anyone??? :)
No, you were the closest, the win is yours... :)

[Torsen]

personally i think the FIA should take a second look at the group N cars specs... they need a slightly larger restrictor to be competitive with the S2000 cars..

to make those two cars more equal is a must... i could see subaru really getting into it if they could use more of their turbo than what they are already allowed...

[ProRally]

Like in Spain, there group N has 36mm !!!

[Mirek]

That's not the choice. First, it's more expensive and we don't have easy economical situation. Such cars also suffer with low reliability. They are not built for more power. Some crews also told me that even now gr. N are too fast for their suspension and brakes (especialy on tarmac).

Also making group N equal to S2000 is nonsence to me. FIA made S2000 heavier and get gr.N some new changes to the rulles but what is it good for? S2000 is 2-3x more expensive. Why should it be equal in speed? That would lead to situation when manufacturers won't make new S2000 because noone would buy them.

In my opinion gr.N should not be in the same group as S2000. Gr. N should be again proper production car, not half gr.A as today.

[FabiaFan]

So now, after this impressive win, let me ask THE QUESTION: Can Sandell win all rounds of PWRC 2009?
Loeb, Sandell... this is going to be a very thrilling year :/

[tolis]

No ,I don't think so.
I don't want that to happen, because then, 2009 will be the silliest season ever in rallying.

[FabiaFan]

No ,I don't think so.
I don't want that to happen, because then, 2009 will be the silliest season ever in rallying. It WILL definitely be THE SILLIEST season. Loeb (+ Citroën), Sandell and Prokop are almost sure to take the titles even after only 1-2 rounds - at least I would bet a lot of my money on it - such a situation has never ever happen before...

[RS]

]
In my opinion gr.N should not be in the same group as S2000. Gr. N should be again proper production car, not half gr.A as today.

Agree. S2000s are already penalised on weight. Adding more will only make them less spectacular and less competitive.

Pleased with the Fabia's debut pWRC win but this car is in a totally different class to the normal N4s. Winning in IRC would be more of an achievement for the car.

[Wim_Impreza]

So now, after this impressive win, let me ask THE QUESTION: Can Sandell win all rounds of PWRC 2009?
Loeb, Sandell... this is going to be a very thrilling year :/

No, Sandell is not so talented as some of the other competitors. Look at his PWRC season 2008. With the best car there, he won not a single round.

[Sarac330d]

No, Sandell is not so talented as some of the other competitors. Look at his PWRC season 2008. With the best car there, he won not a single round.

You have to know much more things, if you look only at result at the end of rally you will see that, Patrik didn`t won any round, but if you check for more info, you will find out that he was first through the Rally Sweden all time until last day when he had a spin and lost lead! Also he put some stage wins in Argentina but his engine didn`t last until end of rally. Then Peugeot Sport Sweden didn`t have budget to repair his 207S2000, and he driven Greece and Turkey with not so good prepared 207S2000 from Italy and with very bad suspension on that car, he never didn`t manage to set up this car as he wanted, dispite this problems he was also very fast on this rallies! Then on GB rally he have again problem with engine!

[Wim_Impreza]

I knew all this things. I find Sandell not really good, but he drives a much faster S2000 compared to the Group N's. His performance in New Zealand was ok last year with a Lancer Evo 9, but I want to see him more in that car to compare his results with drivers who use the same car.

[Sarac330d]

He for sure knows better how to deal with car which needs to be in high rpm, becouse he used to race in S1600 cars.
He was on one rally in Serbia in 2007(Interspeed rally) when he was driving Evo IX for the first time, also for the first time in rally car which has all wheel drive, he was pushing car in high rpm all the time for the first loop of SS, when the mechanics looked at Data from his ECU they told him not to do that and that he must shift up at around 5.000 rpm! After that advice he managed to set quicker time on each SS, he was faster arround 2 sec/km after that!

So only that he needs is little testing time to make adjustment to new car, and he is very, very fast!
You can look at Raimunds Baumschlagers statement after Sandell joined BRR team for season 2009. He was impressed with his talent and dedication for rallying

I think that he is very smart becouse he is not loosing time with classic Gr.N cars, S2000 is future of the rally and he will be in advantage over other drivers when all of them change their Evos and Imprecas for S2000 cars!

[alleskids]

Nasser Al Attiyah is back to Subaru. His plans were to do the MERC with a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X, but due to the draw back of Mitsubsihi from the rally scene, Al Attiya decided to go back to Subaru. In Cyprus he will drive the Impreza of Spyros Pavlides, who has to step back due to business obligations.

[ProRally]

Nasser Al Attiyah is back to Subaru. His plans were to do the MERC with a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X, but due to the draw back of Mitsubsihi from the rally scene, Al Attiya decided to go back to Subaru. In Cyprus he will drive the Impreza of Spyros Pavlides, who has to step back due to business obligations.

So would Nasser stop driving EvoX in MERC and also go back to Impreza for MERC too ?

[AndyRAC]

Agree. S2000s are already penalised on weight. Adding more will only make them less spectacular and less competitive.

Pleased with the Fabia's debut pWRC win but this car is in a totally different class to the normal N4s. Winning in IRC would be more of an achievement for the car.

Personally, the S2000's are far too heavy anyway - they shouldn't be in the same class as N4 - they are not a Production car. Another thing, the current GroupN/Production cars are far too developed - it should just be a normal car with a safety cage/extinguisher. They've gone too far, they even remove the rear seats.

[alleskids]

So would Nasser stop driving EvoX in MERC and also go back to Impreza for MERC too ?

Al Attiyah wil do the MERC in a Subaru Impzreza, starting this weekend in the Rally of Kuwait.

[ProRally]

Al Attiyah wil do the MERC in a Subaru Impzreza, starting this weekend in the Rally of Kuwait.

Waaoow so the EvoX was just a 1 off with the Rally Qatar !!

Is the Subaru run again by Autotek ?

[alleskids]

The Subaru will be run by Autotek Motorsport. His navigator will be Giovanni Bernacchini (former navi of Gigi Galli)

[Mirek]

Will Nasser do all PWRC or will he alternates with Tarabus as he is entered for Autotek/JM Engineering team...

[tolis]

I think that the Cypriot Spyros Pavlides will alternate with Tarabus.

[Viking]

Andreas Mikkelsen is entered Rally Portugal in a Red Bull Skoda :hot: source, his codriver !

[J.Lindstroem]

Andreas Mikkelsen is entered Rally Portugal in a Red Bull Skoda :hot: source, his codriver !

AMAGAD! Thats going to be great. At first i was going to say that i was looking forward to the fight between Sandell and Mikkelsen, but then it came to my mind that Mikkelsen is able to totaly crush sandell if given the same car. :P

[Sulland]

If this is happening it would be perfect, and it will be interessting to find out how the deal came about, and by whom ! (Haugland, Groenholm ++)

Is it a one off, or for the rest of the season !

[Viking]

If this is happening it would be perfect, and it will be interessting to find out how the deal came about, and by whom ! (Haugland, Groenholm ++)

Is it a one off, or for the rest of the season !

http://www.hamar-dagblad.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090226/RBSPORT/193707130/1041/RBSPORT

[WRC1]

Andreas Mikkelsen is entered Rally Portugal in a Red Bull Skoda :hot: source, his codriver !


according to a source inside RedBull Skoda this rumour is "Nonsens"

[Sulland]

Cool !

[Viking]

according to a source inside RedBull Skoda this rumour is "Nonsens"

Then he should tell Fløene who says in the link above that they sent the entry yesterday :confused:

[Sturla]

The link also tells that Andreas has spoken to Mitsubitshi, Petter Solberg (Proton) and Fiat about next year. The future looks bright for young Mikkelsen :)

[Tom206wrc]

Al Attiyah wil do the MERC in a Subaru Impzreza, starting this weekend in the Rally of Kuwait.



Next week-end, not this coming one... ;)

[Iskald]

AMAGAD! Thats going to be great. At first i was going to say that i was looking forward to the fight between Sandell and Mikkelsen, but then it came to my mind that Mikkelsen is able to totaly crush sandell if given the same car. :P

Spoke to Andreas Mikkelsen last week and he said he was taking "silly risks" in the Subaru Impreza to stay in contention with Sandell during the first half of Rally Norway. "But give me a S2000 any time, said Andreas, and we will see who is fast". He didn`t however, mention anything about a Skoda Fabia in Portugal, but this doesn`t neccessarily mean it won`t happen. As mentioned in other posts, "important" and resourceful persons is working to put him in competitive machinery, and everything is possible.

Interesting to note that Andreas just looks at this season as a new and great challenge. Remember he has done loads of rallies in WRC-Fords since 2006, and it might seem probable that he is finding Group N rather tame. But not so at all, according to himself. As long as there is proper competition, Andreas thrives behind any steering wheel. Next saturday he is back in the Subaru Cup car in Numedalsrally, third round of the Norwegian championship. He is leading both Subaru Cup and Group N overall after two rounds, and now he is just looking forward to challenge Eivind Brynildsen, Martin Stenshorne et al once more in a "restricted" cup car.

[Sulland]

According to Mikkelsen it is not clear yet, read here:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=no&sl=no&tl=en&u=http://www.motorsport.no/wip4/klart_skoda/d.epl%3Fcat%3D13747%26id%3D417169

[PLuto]

Yes, I was talking to Ola and he confirmed, that that article in local newspaper was written in wrong way. But they are talking to Red Bull about start in Portugal, but nothing clear yet: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=8024

[WRC1]

Then he should tell Fløene who says in the link above that they sent the entry yesterday :confused:


any news from norway about young mikkelsen and redbull??

[PLuto]

List of drivers in JWRC and PCWRC with their nominated rallies: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=8041

[Tom206wrc]

Next week, Cyprus will be a terrible reliabilty round for the Skoda people, to see if the Fabia S2000 can resist to so rough conditions ;)

We will learn a lot of things about the car(we already know it's fast, but will the mechanical parts be strong enough to allow Sandell to reach the end of rally ??) :)

[PLuto]

Design of Pirelli Star Drivers car: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=8045

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/f3b3a920c727acc5d2166b1add29a428.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Reminds me a certain whale driven by Gigi in 2006... :p :

[pavlos_a]

any news from norway about young mikkelsen and redbull??

Rally Portugal

Andreas Mikkelsen/ Ola Floene - Subaru Impreza

[Mirek]

He can switch the car to another if he wants. He only needs to stay in the same class ;)

[Mirek]

MML showed their own gr.N Evo X. It should be ultimate car and it also is a bit expensive...
http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=8061
http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_6982867edeecaedd71ba043cf16e3c1e.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_66c20bf0479c77ddb37436fc3f4cc885.jpg

[PLuto]

Some photos from Pirelli Star Drivers test in Toscana: http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/thumbnails.php?album=106

http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090309/thumb_Pirelli_test_01.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090309/thumb_Pirelli_test_03.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090309/thumb_Pirelli_test_24.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090309/thumb_Pirelli_test_23.jpg

[GigiGalliNo1]

Why has the Evo X Grp. N been recently launched... if i've seen it in some rallies already?

Woah!? Someone tell me?

[Mirek]

Because there are new gr.N rulles since 1st January 2009.

[Sarac330d]

]Because there are new gr.N rulles since 1st January 2009.

I am not very familiar with this new rules, do you have maybe more detailed info? Thank you

[Rally Hokkaido]

Why has the Evo X Grp. N been recently launched... if i've seen it in some rallies already?

Woah!? Someone tell me?

The launch is for MML's version of an Evo X GpN only. MML is a private UK tuning company with most staff former members of the Mitsubishi WRC Team. That is why the company name is MML . OK?

[Mirek]

I am not very familiar with this new rules, do you have maybe more detailed info? Thank you

Now the cars may use special turbo as variant option (in my opinion very expensive change), pipes for cooling brakes and intercooler water spray even if not fitted in stock car.

[PJRevs]

]Because there are new gr.N rulles since 1st January 2009.

Where we can find that rules. Do you have some link?

[Mirek]

Should be here: http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.ns ... 54%20(2009 (http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/A26FF0C8D89F5A90C12574FF00518DEC/$FILE/254%20(2009))-15112008.pdf

[Tom206wrc]

Looks promising this week-end at Portugal between Magalhaes, Sandell and a few other portuguese drivers(Araujo,...) :)

Finally no Bernardo Sousa after his crash at shakedown ??? :(

[Mirek]

No Sousa, no Tarabus, both crashed on shakedown.

[JAM]

And Armindo (finally) won his first PWRC rally. Let's see if this will be his year.

http://iris.cpidt.pt/projectos/sportmotores/img/fotos/19094.JPG

[hari]

Patrik Sandell was testing yesterday for Rally Sardinia in Austria:
Despite it was quite heavy raining, he was happy with the test.

Fotos and a Video: http://www.ir7.at/fotostest120509.html

http://www.ir7.at/newsimg/sandtest.jpg

[RS]

Patrik Sandell was testing yesterday for Rally Sardinia in Austria:
Despite it was quite heavy raining, he was happy with the test.

Fotos and a Video: http://www.ir7.at/fotostest120509.html

http://www.ir7.at/newsimg/sandtest.jpg

Thanks Hari. That's a great video! And the Fabia looks better with a bit of mud on it too :)

[Micke_VOC]

Patrik Sandell was testing yesterday for Rally Sardinia in Austria:
Despite it was quite heavy raining, he was happy with the test.

Fotos and a Video: http://www.ir7.at/fotostest120509.html

http://www.ir7.at/newsimg/sandtest.jpg

More movies from the test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7EZA2FI3c8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB4_Z5lh-vo

From patriksandell.com