Official NHL/hockey thread

[schmenke]

40 years, eh?

Been only 14 for the Habs :mark:

[Mark in Oshawa]

Schmenke, if you had to suffer through an owner as inept as Harold Ballard, you wouldn't be so smug, and remember this also. The Habs are unlikely to win another for another 14 years as well. You guys were just plain lucky, and unlike some Habs fans, you are actually from Montreal. The Hab's fans I deal with grew up around here, and just locked onto a winning team as kids because they didn't have gumption to just cheer for the team in their own town......I have little time for THAT.

[schmenke]

I wasn't trying to be smug :mark:

Yes, I was born and raised in Montreal, and as a kid I remember attending games in the old Montreal Forum, watching Lafleur with Lemaire and Shutt flying down the ice, with the Robinson and Savard on defence. Man, that was something special! The atmosphere was overwhelming! Loyalties are built up from experiences like that. How can I NOT be a Habs fan!
No matter where I live, my alegiance will always be intact ; :D

[Tomi]

I wasn't trying to be smug :mark:

Yes, I was born and raised in Montreal, and as a kid I remember attending games in the old Montreal Forum, watching Lafleur with Lemaire and Shutt flying down the ice, with the Robinson and Savard on defence. Man, that was something special! The atmosphere was overwhelming! Loyalties are built up from experiences like that. How can I NOT be a Habs fan!
No matter where I live, my alegiance will always be intact ; :D

i remember guy lafleur too, he was very good skater.

[Mark in Oshawa]

Tomi, saying he was a good skater was like saying Pope John Paul was Catholic. Lafleur was one of the best skaters of the era, and the only guy in that decade who could outskate him was my favourite, Bobby Orr. The two of them apparently were fast friends as roomates in 1976 in the first Canada Cup. Apparently the two of them had similar pre game routines, and it only was a problem because both of them liked having the dressing room to themselves and the ice in the afternoons to themselves.

Schmenke, even I had a soft spot for those late 70's Hab's teams, since I liked Robinson as much as I liked Orr in many ways, and he was the guy I tried to emulate playing myself. Of course, I didn't have his talent, but hey, a kid dreams don't he? I especially enjoyed the @ss kicking they gave the Flyers to win that first cup of the 4. I wasn't a big Hab's fan, like I said, but man, I loved seeing the Flyers get put down like rabid dogs. My dislike of Bobby Clarke and the Flyers has continued to this day, and they may be the one team I would always cheer for the Habs over!!!

[A.F.F.]

Have you guys heard anything about the negotiations of possible Victoria Cup ?? What I heard they have a dream to make a three team cup where two of the teams comes from Europe and the third would be Stanley Cup holder. I find it very interesting as we could really see the level of European team hockey comparing to NHL.

Also, they have some sort of plans to build up a champions league in Europe, which they have already tried a few times but this time the model should be taken from soccer champions league. That at least has proved to be very succesfull consept. I guess this time, to make it really work, the reward money is in the different league than it used to be. That should motivate the national top teams to participate.

if I'm not totally wrong, they might use the champuons league finalists to take part to Victoria Cup which I mentioned earlier. I'm not just sure if NHL is interested of this plan :mark:

[janneppi]

Bit of IIHF championships for a change.
Semifinal games are:
Russia - Finland
Canada - Sweden

I can't believe USA didn't win Finland today, our team gave the four goals to work with.
Lehtonen was in good form today, i almost for got his 7 goals few weeks ago. :)

[Tomi]

Lafleur was one of the best skaters of the era, and the only guy in that decade who could outskate him was my favourite, Bobby Orr.

Is Bobby Orr still living near Toronto? I met him once in my friends sport shop, he was here promoting CCM skates, he is a nice guy, pity he had so bad knees.

[schmenke]

Is Bobby Orr still living near Toronto? I met him once in my friends sport shop, he was here promoting CCM skates, he is a nice guy, pity he had so bad knees.

Not sure where he's living these days, but he's always been a real class player :up: One of the best skaters there ever was.

Bit of NHL trivia... he still holds the NHL record for a season-high plus/minus... at +124! :s hock:

[A.F.F.]

:hot: :bounce: :hot:

Finland vs. Russia 2-1

We're in the finale !!!!

[DonJippo]

Finland vs. Russia 2-1

So sweat :bounce: :hot: :bounce: :D

[janneppi]

pahkeinen

[Georgeboi999]

C'mon you DUCKS

[raikk]

I with the Sabres could win against those Sens.. :( .. 3-0 series in favour of Ottawa... just BRUTAL!

ahh yes I wish I was alive to see the leafs win the cup in 67..

[Mark in Oshawa]

It does suck that the upstart Sens will get where my Leafs haven't gone in 40 years......

[schmenke]

Well, they're not there yet... :mark:

[A.F.F.]

You got that right schmenke. Ducks will hold the Cup.

[edv]

I imagine Schmenke goes to sleep at night with the voice of that annoying Forum PA announcer in his head.....
"...et le troisieme etoille, Rejean Houle!"
Gawd that always annoyed me!

[schmenke]

I imagine Schmenke goes to sleep at night with the voice of that annoying Forum PA announcer in his head.....
"...et le troisieme etoille, Rejean Houle!"...

Brings back memories that... :D

A.F.F. Ducks shut out in Anaheim 5 - 0... :s With play like that they won't be holding any cup soon... :mark:

[A.F.F.]

Brings back memories that... :D

A.F.F. Ducks shut out in Anaheim 5 - 0... :s With play like that they won't be holding any cup soon... :mark:

I hear you. Just noticed myself :mark:

[Mark in Oshawa]

I cant believe I go away for a week and a half and NO ONE mentioned on here on who won the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!!! The Canadians normally wouldn't mention it because we realize the best players are often still in the NHL playoffs or licking wounds from being eliminated from them. The Euros however are silent...mmmmm would that be because CANADA WON!!!!!!!!!

I was stuck in the US, and you don't get even get box scores of the NHL in some newspapers. So I had no idea until I got the newspaper in Windsor on Wednesday and saw a reference to it. Gotta like that......shame on you guys for not making some note of it.

Tomi, as for the whereabouts of Bobby Orr, he lives mainly in Boston, where he runs his player agency. He took it over after apprenticing under famous sports agent Bob Woolf. Woolf died in the late 90's and Orr took over the hockey side of the business. It is ironic the one player who was hurt so much by Alan Eagleson became an agent himself, but it makes the story of Orr probably more intriguing.

Orr's story is a cautionary tale to what happens to hockey players who don't pay attention to the business side of the equation when the big pay checks roll in. He has a rudimentry high school education, and he trusted Eagleson implicitily and was basically out of a career and broke in the late 70's through this. He took his fame, and the opportunity of being well known in Boston through his hockey exploits, to become a successful businessman and did a lot of work for charity in Boston, and back home here in Ontario. He is a very private guy, but I do know that he always goes back to Parry Sound Ontario where he grew up for visits and I am sure he has a cottage up there, but he remains based mainly in Boston.

I am envious Tomi, he is my hockey hero and yet I haven't managed to meet him....

[A.F.F.]

I cant believe I go away for a week and a half and NO ONE mentioned on here on who won the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!!! The Canadians normally wouldn't mention it because we realize the best players are often still in the NHL playoffs or licking wounds from being eliminated from them. The Euros however are silent...mmmmm would that be because CANADA WON!!!!!!!!!
.

Be careful Mark, you're too close the truth. Obviously i can't speak for other Finns out there but when it comes to me, damn right it's because Canada won. Things are different here in Finland. Do you have the slightest idea what it feels like to lick our empty fingers after we lost the finale for SEVENTH god damn time ??? This time it was easier because from the first minute of the game, it was clear that Canada will win. Team Finland's hockey was spiritless, worthless pathetic game and only the third period saved us from the total emberrasment.

Having said that, Con-****in-gratulations Canada, once again ;) :D


What comes to Stanley Cup, my dream finale, Ducks vs. Sabres is slowly turning to my nightmare, Senators vs. Red Wings.... :mark:

[schmenke]

Sabres are still alive... barely :p :

[Mark in Oshawa]

AFF, I hope you guys win one. I always cheer for the Finn's over the Russians, Czechs, Slovaks, Swedes, Swiss, Americans and Germans. Just you keep coming up against Canada when the chips are down and that hasn't worked out too well for you Finns.....

Schmenke, you do realize of course tho for me, this playoff is a horror show? I hate Ottawa, growing up in Southern Ontario means you know how insuffrable Buffalonians are when they are winning, so I have no dog in this hunt. Detroit will be my cheering faction because I lived in Windsor for a few years, but it is hard to cheer against a Canadian team with my Dad...he becomes an instant fan of the Canadian team in any final, and gets ticked when I adopt a team based on a player or two that I like as a person.....lol

Anyhow, I hate the Ducks. No matter who gets in from the East, they automatically will have my support of that jerk Brian Burke gets near a Stanley cup....

[AndyRAC]

Can't have the Wings winning the Cup again, the Wings suck!!! Can't stand that organisation, ......aagghh!!!!

[Mark in Oshawa]

Don't worry Andy, Anaheim might use them up enough that Ottawa will likely win....

Don't know why you dont' like the Wings organization though. Ken Holland, Jimmy D, Scotty Bowman, Mike Babcock and Jim Nill are all quality people. Mike Illitch just lets them do their thing and they do it well. Chris Chelios is likely go on to the longest career in NHL history. A good guy too is Chelly, even if he spouts off. Ya Hasek is a bit of a loon, but he is a good goalie, and the fans there are enthusiastic, if not a little naive (Detroit is "hockey town?" Good lord, there are about 5 places in the US that could take that title over Detroit, and I wont even get into how stupid that sounds with Canadian cities lumped in)

That said, I like the old school uni's, I like Stevie Y and he is still on the management team in Detroit ( he also helped pick the Canadian team that just took the IIHF Worlds too) and the city of Detroit will still be a dump when the Wings win their cup. That city has taken a lot of knocks, and I don't mind them winning at all. God knows Ottawa fans will be insufferable if they win....

[MD24]

The Ottawa Senators are going to the Stanley Cup final with a 3-2 win in OT over the Sabres

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/5242548/danceban.gif

[raikk]

The Ottawa Senators are going to the Stanley Cup final with a 3-2 win in OT over the Sabres

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/5242548/danceban.gif

The Sens haven't choked yet whats the heck is going on here!!! :eek: .. nightmare for TO fans thats for sure...

[janneppi]

I cant believe I go away for a week and a half and NO ONE mentioned on here on who won the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!
Well, it was sort of mentioned in post#261 :p :

[A.F.F.]

YES !!! Ducks in the final :bounce:

[Mark in Oshawa]

As a Leaf's fan, this gives me great pain, almost as much as saying Go Habs Go, but go Sens go I guess....if they must...cause I think Brian Burke is a neanderthal!!!

[A.F.F.]

The final started just the way I wanted. :D Go Ducks.

[tstran17_88]

Glad Detroit got knocked out. Go Ducks!

[Mark in Oshawa]

Ducks are up one....but they have brought back clutch and grab mugfest hockey and the stupid refs are letting them. ...no matter who wins, it looks like hockey is bound and determined to slide back to the dark ages. By Christmas next year, they will be water skiing on guys too...

Another question. It used to be, if a goalie was in the crease, he was not to be touched in any way unless he left the crease. Now the goalies are getting run all the time, but you cant even breathe on one if he is behind the net playing the puck. This is just retarded....

[MD24]

Ducks are up one....but they have brought back clutch and grab mugfest hockey and the stupid refs are letting them. ...no matter who wins, it looks like hockey is bound and determined to slide back to the dark ages. By Christmas next year, they will be water skiing on guys too...

Another question. It used to be, if a goalie was in the crease, he was not to be touched in any way unless he left the crease. Now the goalies are getting run all the time, but you cant even breathe on one if he is behind the net playing the puck. This is just retarded....

I couldn't agree with you more

[DonJippo]

Ducks up 3-1 :bounce:

[AndyRAC]

Really disappointed, was hoping a Canadian team would finally win it, yet another southern American team wins it, but it's not making any difference, they're not interested in hockey. Shame!

[Mark in Oshawa]

Andy, it is perplexing to us Canadians, but then we notice it was Ottawa playing for the cup, and we knew they would choke eventually...at least the Leaf's fans out there did!! Actually, I am disappointed to be honest. I was rooting for Ottawa. What most of the philistines down south don't know is that the Stanley Cup started in Ottawa. Lord Stanley of Preston was the Governor General of Canada and he fell in love with hockey when he saw the kids of the staff at Rideau Hall playing it out on the skating rink on the grounds. IN the early days of hockey at the end of the 19th Century and the start of the next, Ottawa was epicenter of the early pro circuits and the famed "Silver seven" were the kings of hockey at that time. It would have been appreciated in Ottawa whereas in Anaheim, half of the area probably have no clue there are even games being played.

[schmenke]

It'll soon be over for the season anyways... :mark:

[raikk]

sooo who will the leafs sign for next season :) ?

[DonJippo]

Ducks :hot:

[A.F.F.]

YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hot: :hot: :hot:

Congrats Ducks, Congrats Teemu :bounce: :D

[schmenke]

Well done to the Ducks :up:
The Sens really didn't stand a chance... :(

[Mark in Oshawa]

sooo who will the leafs sign for next season :) ?

Announced today, they sucked Sundin for extending his contract another year. So far, they keep wanting to bring back the same guys who didn't get them into the playoffs last year. Leaf's management still thinks if they made the playoffs they would have been able to compete, and what they don't seem to get is that this team cant be life and death to make the playoffs all year and then turn it on and win. Edmonton 2 years ago got lucky but they had some stars in Pronger and a goalie that got hot. It is not a given that if you make the playoffs all the stiffs you have now all the sudden will get better. The Leafs will keep struggling until the people running the team above the hockey department decide mediocre wont work no more. I suspect THAT day will occur the day Jim Balsillie moves the Pred's into Southern Ontario. It will be nice for an NHL team to be based in Southern Ontario, right now we just have 3 AHL teams. Just the Leaf's haven't figured out they should be in the A....

[Mark in Oshawa]

Another note. Alexi Ponkirovsky just became a Canadian citizen. He isn't a bad player, is a good guy and I hope that he becomes the player the Leaf's pay him as because up til last year I didn't think he belonged in the NHL.

[raikk]

Announced today, they sucked Sundin for extending his contract another year. So far, they keep wanting to bring back the same guys who didn't get them into the playoffs last year. Leaf's management still thinks if they made the playoffs they would have been able to compete, and what they don't seem to get is that this team cant be life and death to make the playoffs all year and then turn it on and win. Edmonton 2 years ago got lucky but they had some stars in Pronger and a goalie that got hot. It is not a given that if you make the playoffs all the stiffs you have now all the sudden will get better. The Leafs will keep struggling until the people running the team above the hockey department decide mediocre wont work no more. I suspect THAT day will occur the day Jim Balsillie moves the Pred's into Southern Ontario. It will be nice for an NHL team to be based in Southern Ontario, right now we just have 3 AHL teams. Just the Leaf's haven't figured out they should be in the A....

Sundin was a good option.. he is one of the top players consistancy wise, Sundin also took a 800,000 dollar pay cut and only a one year deal which leaves the team to sign (hopefully!) a talented UFA for him to play along... The problem is not so much Mats but more the players he has been given to play with... most of them he has played along side were average , nothing to spectacular, mind you I did like Wellwood working along side him but tiem will tell...

[AndyRAC]

Was listening to Leafs Lunch the other day and the re-signing of Sundin was discussed, 2 more years he's 36 years old. Not sure myself, providing the other players are good enough then yes, but if they keep all the current players then nothing will change. Regarding Preds moving, the more teams in Canada the better.

[BTCC2]

Gone a bit quiet in here hasn't it.

[raikk]

Gone a bit quiet in here hasn't it.

ya not very much to talk about this week really... The Rangers and Ducks look very strong after the huge additions in the offseason which no doubt cost them a very pretty penny... hey BTCC2 are you going to one of the NHL games that will be held in London? I'm quite excited for the leafs season as it looks one of hte more promising ones in years.. with the offseason additions of Vesa Toskala, Jason Blake and Mark Bell as well as Clemmenson the leafs looks strong.. There is still a few things missing liek a PK specialist (check this off if they re-sign Peca) a defensive D man (but 2 way players like Blake and Bell as well as getting a huge upgrade goaltender wise we should be ok) and now we need a future Captain.. and /or a Centre.. the only play besides Sundin I would be willing ot give the C to would be Tomas Kaberle.. Bryan McCabe or Darcy Tucker wouldn't be the best of choices in my mind.. You need a player that sets a good example and none do that better then Kaberle and Sundin.. looking forward to a very exciting season!

[Galveston dunes]

Gilmour,Francis,yzerman,now Nyendyke, I figure Madonno will be next. Its a changing of the gaurds and The replacments have alot of ground to shovel to fill the shoes of the men gone bye bye.I know I left out a few names but after Stevie [imo]noone else really compares in my book.

[tstran17_88]

Gone a bit quiet in here hasn't it.I've been thinking about it. Trying to decide on my one game to attend this year. Should I go up to St. Paul when they are playing Pittsburgh? I'd like to see Sid play. Or go to Chicago, St. Paul or St. Louis when Nashville is in town, since that's my favorite team?

[BTCC2]

hey BTCC2 are you going to one of the NHL games that will be held in London?

Yes I should be going to the Ducks v Kings game. I am VERY excited, it will make a change from putting up with some of the dire ice hockey I have to sit through in the UK Elite league.

[Galveston dunes]

I've been thinking about it. Trying to decide on my one game to attend this year. Should I go up to St. Paul when they are playing Pittsburgh? I'd like to see Sid play. Or go to Chicago, St. Paul or St. Louis when Nashville is in town, since that's my favorite team?


However if thats not an option I myself would go to any Nashville game. Being a long time die hard Red Wings fan I think Nashville puts on a terrific game and should never be counted out until the final buzzer goes.

Have fun and enjoy

[raikk]

Yes I should be going to the Ducks v Kings game. I am VERY excited, it will make a change from putting up with some of the dire ice hockey I have to sit through in the UK Elite league.

You will be in for a good show my friend ;) ... I hope you go... hell I might even go seeing as I would be in London at about that time..

[Mark in Oshawa]

BTCC, when you see the Kings and Ducks, you will notice the quicker speed of it compared to what you are watching. Enjoy.....

[jarrambide]

BTCC, when you see the Kings and Ducks, you will notice the quicker speed of it compared to what you are watching. Enjoy.....

Mark, my Canadian friend, I just bought season tickets for the Houston Aeros, the AHL is not the NHL, but the games are good enough for me, which means I am know no longer a hockey TV fan, too bad the St. John's Maple Leaf don't play anymore (used to go to San Antonio {which was relatively close to Monterrey, Mexico} to see them play), but I will await nevertheless the Toronto Marlies.

[Mark in Oshawa]

Jose, the Marlies are likely to suck this year, for the Leaf's have. I wish they left the team in Newfoundland. The Marlies don't matter to people in Toronto, whereas they were the pride and joy of Newfoundland. The people there built a brand new arena (and likely would have anyhow but the spectre of losing the team sped the process up)to keep the team, only to lose them when the parent team had the chance to run the Ricoh Colisieum on the Exhibition grounds in Toronto ( the front door is about 100 yards from corner 10 on the Champ Car circuit).

Anyhow, enjoy the Aero's, who have been a pretty good team for a few years. The Hamilton Bulldogs (just down the road from Toronto and where I lived for 2 years) will also be by and they are a farm team of the Montreal Canadiens. They played the Aeros a few years back in the AHL finals and I was a fan of them more so than the Marlies. The Marlies just are a forgotten team in a city besot with love for the Leafs. The Bulldogs draw better averaging 5 thousand for most games.

I think hockey has always been a hidden gem in sport in the US. I know Americans love tough sports and love speed and excitement and it has always flummoxed me why they cant get more excited about hockey. Outside of a few states, it always seems like it is just a sideshow, much like Arena Football.

[raikk]

Jose, the Marlies are likely to suck this year, for the Leaf's have. I wish they left the team in Newfoundland. The Marlies don't matter to people in Toronto, whereas they were the pride and joy of Newfoundland. The people there built a brand new arena (and likely would have anyhow but the spectre of losing the team sped the process up)to keep the team, only to lose them when the parent team had the chance to run the Ricoh Colisieum on the Exhibition grounds in Toronto ( the front door is about 100 yards from corner 10 on the Champ Car circuit).

Anyhow, enjoy the Aero's, who have been a pretty good team for a few years. The Hamilton Bulldogs (just down the road from Toronto and where I lived for 2 years) will also be by and they are a farm team of the Montreal Canadiens. They played the Aeros a few years back in the AHL finals and I was a fan of them more so than the Marlies. The Marlies just are a forgotten team in a city besot with love for the Leafs. The Bulldogs draw better averaging 5 thousand for most games.

I think hockey has always been a hidden gem in sport in the US. I know Americans love tough sports and love speed and excitement and it has always flummoxed me why they cant get more excited about hockey. Outside of a few states, it always seems like it is just a sideshow, much like Arena Football.

agreed I liked them in Newfoundland.. I don't think they will suck as much as last year though with new prospects like Stralman(which a few actualy comepare him as a poor mans Lidstrom!),Tlusty as well as some strength in goal with Clemmenson as well as Pogge getting a year more experiance.. But we will see

[Mark in Oshawa]

agreed I liked them in Newfoundland.. I don't think they will suck as much as last year though with new prospects like Stralman(which a few actualy comepare him as a poor mans Lidstrom!),Tlusty as well as some strength in goal with Clemmenson as well as Pogge getting a year more experiance.. But we will see


You sir are assuming the Leaf's don't take half the team up to the parent club as the injury parade starts. The Leafs are awful thin on quality players, and they tend to raid the farm club a lot more than some NHL clubs.

[A.F.F.]

Did you guys hear that Kimmo Timonen was traded from Nashville to Philadelphia ? Philly turns out to be the new Finn-team...

[BTCC2]

BTCC, when you see the Kings and Ducks, you will notice the quicker speed of it compared to what you are watching. Enjoy.....

Yeah I can't wait.

[raikk]

You sir are assuming the Leaf's don't take half the team up to the parent club as the injury parade starts. The Leafs are awful thin on quality players, and they tend to raid the farm club a lot more than some NHL clubs.

looks like they got a premature one... Ball apparently sentenced to 6 months in prison for hit and run/ drunk driving... I hope his salary does not count toward the cap...

[tstran17_88]

However if thats not an option I myself would go to any Nashville game. Being a long time die hard Red Wings fan I think Nashville puts on a terrific game and should never be counted out until the final buzzer goes.

Have fun and enjoyThe Pittsburgh-Minnesota game is out of the equation now. I had to burn an extra day of vacation because of the rain outs of the Michigan Cup race.

I'm thinking of going to two games now. My daughter and I had a blast at the Xcel and are thinking of going up on a Saturday to see the Wild play the Wings or the Ducks. My brother and I will probably head to Chicago over Christmas break to see the Preds and the Hawks. We're close enough to Chicago that we won't have to make it an overnight trip.

Nashville is going to be different this year. Kariya is in St. Louis. Vokoun is either with Florida or Tampa Bay...can't remember.

[tstran17_88]

I think hockey has always been a hidden gem in sport in the US. I know Americans love tough sports and love speed and excitement and it has always flummoxed me why they cant get more excited about hockey. Outside of a few states, it always seems like it is just a sideshow, much like Arena Football.Even in Wisconsin, the hockey fans are fickle, unlike Minnesota were hockey is king.

The Milwaukee Admirals don't get big crowds and they've been to two AHL finals, winning one Calder Cup in the past four seasons. But getting choice seats at the Kohl Center for the U. of Wisconsin college team is a tough task...even before they won the NCAA championship two seasons ago.

[AndyRAC]

I believe that Mark Morro has retired from the Marlies.
Going off the subject living near Liverpool we have a new Arena opening next year, I doubt there are any plans to bring any Hockey to it, which is a shame.

[BTCC2]

Liverpool should start off a team in the ENL Northern League.

[Mark in Oshawa]

I keep hoping the people in the UK take to hockey in a bigger way. The fact you guys come on here and tell us about it BTCC and Andy, it gives me hope......


Of course, I never dreamed I would meet a Mexican hockey fan (and of the LEAFS yet!) so it is a strange world we live in....

[BTCC2]

I keep hoping the people in the UK take to hockey in a bigger way. The fact you guys come on here and tell us about it BTCC and Andy, it gives me hope......

Well it took a big leap in popularity with the introduction of the Elite League in 2003. But since then it has been going with no real improvements. I believe if they combined the EPIHL (The 2nd best UK league) it would make a huge difference as 10 teams isn't enough.

[raikk]

Well it took a big leap in popularity with the introduction of the Elite League in 2003. But since then it has been going with no real improvements. I believe if they combined the EPIHL (The 2nd best UK league) it would make a huge difference as 10 teams isn't enough.

hey BTCC2 where exactly in London is the Sept 29th game where the Kings and Ducks faceoff? I'm thinking of going since I'll be there anyways! whats the name of the arena?

[AndyRAC]

Well it took a big leap in popularity with the introduction of the Elite League in 2003. But since then it has been going with no real improvements. I believe if they combined the EPIHL (The 2nd best UK league) it would make a huge difference as 10 teams isn't enough.
Don't follow British hockey too closely anymore, remember years ago it used to be on Grandstand of a Saturday afternoon - Durham Wasps were my team.
I know that now they have league as well as a cup competition, Why?
Just have one competion, expand the league into two conferences, take the example of the NHL, regular season followed by play offs.

[BTCC2]

hey BTCC2 where exactly in London is the Sept 29th game where the Kings and Ducks faceoff? I'm thinking of going since I'll be there anyways! whats the name of the arena?

It's at The 02 Arena http://www.theo2.co.uk/web/guest/home

[BTCC2]

I know that now they have league as well as a cup competition, Why?
Just have one competion, expand the league into two conferences, take the example of the NHL, regular season followed by play offs.

There are play offs. The top 8 teams qualify for them which is stupid because after 54 games it only eliminates 2 teams. The Challenge cup is basicly there to give a chance of someone other than Coventry Blaze a chance to win something. Although last season they won the league and the cup.

How ironic it is that I was saying we needed something big to promote awareness of the league just yesterday and today it has been announced that there will be a EIHL programme on Sky Sports for the first time!!!!!

Anyway, the season starts again today, very excited.

[BTCC2]

UK Elite League round up:

Hull Stingrays 2-3 Newcastle Vipers
Basingstoke Bison 1-4 Coventry Blaze
Nottingham Panthers 2-0 Manchester Phoenix
Sheffield Steelers 5-1 Cardiff Devils
Belfast Giants 2-1 Edinburgh Capitals

Standings:

1 Sheffield Steelers 2
2 Coventry Blaze 2
3 Nottingham Panthers 2
4 Belfast Giants 2
5 Newcastle Vipers 2
6 Hull Stingrays 1
7 Edinburgh Capitals 0
8 Manchester Phoenix 0
9 Basingstoke Bison 0
10 Cardiff Devils 0

[A.F.F.]

Finnish national league started with one game. Heavy eyes on those who came back from NHL and got even heavier paycheck. Also, one particular defenceplayer, a living icon of one team, moved to another. Now, half of Finland is excited, no that he playes good but will he stay sober for the whole year :rolleyes:

I somehow think we don't pay attention to what we should.

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[A.F.F.]

Hurray ! NHL started. Norrena got a flying start for the season. Nil game and 41 saves. Needless to say he was the man of the match.

I hope this'll turn out to be as interesting season as last year :up: :)

[BTCC2]

UK Elite League table:

1 Coventry Blaze 13
2 Newcastle Vipers 12 (Come on!)
3 Manchester Phoenix 9
4 Sheffield Steelers 9
5 Basingstoke Bison 6
6 Edinburgh Capitals 6
7 Nottingham Panthers 6
8 Hull Stingrays 5
9 Belfast Giants 4
10 Cardiff Devils 2


Vipers have had a great start lets hope we can wrestle the lead from bloody Coventry.

[raikk]

UK Elite League table:

1 Coventry Blaze 13
2 Newcastle Vipers 12 (Come on!)
3 Manchester Phoenix 9
4 Sheffield Steelers 9
5 Basingstoke Bison 6
6 Edinburgh Capitals 6
7 Nottingham Panthers 6
8 Hull Stingrays 5
9 Belfast Giants 4
10 Cardiff Devils 2


Vipers have had a great start lets hope we can wrestle the lead from bloody Coventry.

how did you like the NHL?

[BTCC2]

It was a great day out and thankfully it was a good game aswell after a 6 and a half hour drive.

Was very impressed with the standard of NHL as Mark In Oshowa told me it was much faster, the shooting was more powerfull and the passing incredibly accurate.

There was a fantastic atmosphere aswell, I'm not used to seeing crowds above 1,000 so it was great to see the 02 packed.

I was wearing my Newcastle Vipers top and saw plenty of other Elite league tops which was good.

The only downside for me was that I missed a Vipers game for the first time in 4 years. Fortunately we won 5-4.

[A.F.F.]

Interesting but very positive goalie fight in Columbus right now. Both goalies Norrena and Leclaire started very good.

Anaheim desperately needing Selänne and Scott Niedermeier.

[A.F.F.]

OMG :eek:

What a disaster for Leafs and Toskala last night. 7-1 loss to Hurricanes. I don't think the fans of Leafs are as forgiving than in San Jose.

[AndyRAC]

OMG :eek:

What a disaster for Leafs and Toskala last night. 7-1 loss to Hurricanes. I don't think the fans of Leafs are as forgiving than in San Jose.

Looks like Razer will have to start after that,...not a good start to the season.

[raikk]

Looks like Razer will have to start after that,...not a good start to the season.

Toskala has been nothing short of great... the team infront of him and Raycroft can't play any Defense! The numbers tell a different story then the game actually does.. another example is Toskala stopped 50 shots against the Pitts... yes 50... and let 5 in.. if you put Brodeur or Luongo in the net ... there would be no difference... the overpaid leafs defense are not earning what they have got thus far that for sure! if things continue heads will roll (mostly JFJ's and maybe Maurice?).. their defensive game is just attrotious... not justt he D but the forwards as well... having said that there are some positives like Raycroft and Toskala seem to have elevated their game because of the competition they are in against eachother... not to mention Nik Antropov has looked like one of the best players in the NHL so far.. and Mats Sundin has been a very strong presence with his 10 points in 7 games...not to mention him breaking Sittler's record for goals and points for a Maple Leaf.. Matty Stajan, Steen and Gamache have all been very pleasant to watch as well...

If the leafs can start playing D they will win games and be a legit contender...

[AndyRAC]

Toskala has been nothing short of great... the team infront of him and Raycroft can't play any Defense! The numbers tell a different story then the game actually does.. another example is Toskala stopped 50 shots against the Pitts... yes 50... and let 5 in.. if you put Brodeur or Luongo in the net ... there would be no difference... the overpaid leafs defense are not earning what they have got thus far that for sure! if things continue heads will roll (mostly JFJ's and maybe Maurice?).. their defensive game is just attrotious... not justt he D but the forwards as well... having said that there are some positives like Raycroft and Toskala seem to have elevated their game because of the competition they are in against eachother... not to mention Nik Antropov has looked like one of the best players in the NHL so far.. and Mats Sundin has been a very strong presence with his 10 points in 7 games...not to mention him breaking Sittler's record for goals and points for a Maple Leaf.. Matty Stajan, Steen and Gamache have all been very pleasant to watch as well...

If the leafs can start playing D they will win games and be a legit contender...

I made my comment before seeing the goals conceded. Having listened to the Podcasts of 'leafs lunch' a number of callers wondered what the defense players were being coached. Most of the points were that they were far too slow, and kept turning the puck over in bad areas.

[A.F.F.]

Toskala has been nothing short of great... the team infront of him and Raycroft can't play any Defense! The numbers tell a different story then the game actually does.. another example is Toskala stopped 50 shots against the Pitts... yes 50... and let 5 in.. if you put Brodeur or Luongo in the net ... there would be no difference... the overpaid leafs defense are not earning what they have got thus far that for sure! if things continue heads will roll (mostly JFJ's and maybe Maurice?).. their defensive game is just attrotious... not justt he D but the forwards as well... having said that there are some positives like Raycroft and Toskala seem to have elevated their game because of the competition they are in against eachother... not to mention Nik Antropov has looked like one of the best players in the NHL so far.. and Mats Sundin has been a very strong presence with his 10 points in 7 games...not to mention him breaking Sittler's record for goals and points for a Maple Leaf.. Matty Stajan, Steen and Gamache have all been very pleasant to watch as well...

If the leafs can start playing D they will win games and be a legit contender...

As did I. Very good post raikk. I always try to look the score board to get a look of the statistics but it's different than seeing the actual game. BNut I couldn't agree more. Leafs need some major work done in d-fence. And this is coming from the Habs fan for christ's sake :eek:

[raikk]

As did I. Very good post raikk. I always try to look the score board to get a look of the statistics but it's different than seeing the actual game. BNut I couldn't agree more. Leafs need some major work done in d-fence. And this is coming from the Habs fan for christ's sake :eek:

It's really to bad because the leafs have the most goals for then anyone else in the league.. there are a lot of players stepping up and putting the pucks in the net... once the D is fixed which I think it will within the next few games I think the leafs will be strong.. but until then they arn't going anywhere without some good D infront of Raycroft and Toskala... If the D wasn't the problem the leafs would be top 4 in the east thus far.. because both our goalies are rock hard solid and our Offense is busting out... but Defense wins cups and championships..

[A.F.F.]

It's really to bad because the leafs have the most goals for then anyone else in the league.. there are a lot of players stepping up and putting the pucks in the net... once the D is fixed which I think it will within the next few games I think the leafs will be strong.. but until then they arn't going anywhere without some good D infront of Raycroft and Toskala... If the D wasn't the problem the leafs would be top 4 in the east thus far.. because both our goalies are rock hard solid and our Offense is busting out... but Defense wins cups and championships..


I just hope all the other Leaf-fans share the same trust to goalies :up:

[raikk]

I just hope all the other Leaf-fans share the same trust to goalies :up:

the smart ones do ;)


I'm getting sick of these D lapses.. and Paul Maurices brain farts :mark:

[A.F.F.]

Habs had a good night for a change. 6-1 over Boston :up:

[BTCC2]

UK Elite League round up:

Coventry Blaze 4-0 Nottingham Panthers
Manchester Phoenix 5-2 Hull Stingrays
Sheffield Steelers 3-2 Basingstoke Bison
Newcastle Vipers 2-3 Cardiff Devils (We were robbed)


1. Coventry Blaze 21
2. Sheffield Steelers 19
3. Newcastle Vipers 16 (Keep up the good start lads!!!, we might win the '2nd league' behind Coventry)
4. Manchester Phoenix 13
5. Nottingham Panthers 12
6. Hull Stingrays 11
7. Belfast Giants 10
8. Cardiff Devils 10
9. Basingstoke Bison 7
10. Edinburgh Capitals 6

[raikk]

This team (Toronto Maple Leafs) is just driving me nuts!! every post game interview they say something along the lines of ''we need to play better defensivly'' or ''we need to play better infront of Andrew/Vesa'' LIES all lies!.. V-Tok was the ONLY reason the leafs got to OT and then the shootout! When will those Defensive plus ever learn :banghead: having said that Stralman had a good first NHL game and White was ok...

[Galveston dunes]

Talk about banging your head; have you watched a Red Wings game this year. How can they have so much talent and just barely win the darn game. I'm starting to think the mentality of just getting into into the playoffs is starting too early in the season in Det.
I understand your delima though the Leafs are a very talented org. why they can't get it together is beyond me.

[raikk]

Talk about banging your head; have you watched a Red Wings game this year. How can they have so much talent and just barely win the darn game. I'm starting to think the mentality of just getting into into the playoffs is starting too early in the season in Det.
I understand your delima though the Leafs are a very talented org. why they can't get it together is beyond me.

the word talented does not go beyond Toskala,Kabrele,Sundin,Tlusty and Antro thus far this season... The reason why they can't get it together is they have GM that is an idiot and a coach who has a decent system but it sacrafices defence... That being said Tlusty got 2 goals vs Pens for a 5-2 leafs win yaayy... I think it's safe to say Toskala is #1..

[Galveston dunes]

That being said Tlusty got 2 goals vs Pens for a 5-2 leafs win yaayy... I think it's safe to say Toskala is #1..

I read your post then watched the game vs the Pens a team I have long liked to watch[1970- before crosby].I have to admit Toskala looked very impressive but #1 Dude please I watch the #1 goalies every time the Wings pay.Hasak is still poor on high shots if you can get it passed his acrobatic legs and stick swinging through the air. Further more Osgood is still undefeated-dating back to last season.
To be a Goalie in Detroit,or a QB,powerfoward,or pitcher for thast matter you not only have to be great but we find you house and where you park your car and we have had people even coaches removed from our sports.I can't figure out the Millen thing in football here but look back even Sergi Federov was asked to seek employment elsewhere.You have to be good to play in Detroit.
Another lookback whould be the entire drafting decade of 1080-87,Every one who left Detroit made as captain or asst captain of the teams they went to.Even Adam Graves made it to GQ magazine as the sexiest man in hockey.
Enjoy the games and GO Detroit.

[raikk]

I read your post then watched the game vs the Pens a team I have long liked to watch[1970- before crosby].I have to admit Toskala looked very impressive but #1 Dude please I watch the #1 goalies every time the Wings pay.Hasak is still poor on high shots if you can get it passed his acrobatic legs and stick swinging through the air. Further more Osgood is still undefeated-dating back to last season.
To be a Goalie in Detroit,or a QB,powerfoward,or pitcher for thast matter you not only have to be great but we find you house and where you park your car and we have had people even coaches removed from our sports.I can't figure out the Millen thing in football here but look back even Sergi Federov was asked to seek employment elsewhere.You have to be good to play in Detroit.
Another lookback whould be the entire drafting decade of 1080-87,Every one who left Detroit made as captain or asst captain of the teams they went to.Even Adam Graves made it to GQ magazine as the sexiest man in hockey.
Enjoy the games and GO Detroit.

sorry I mean the leafs Starting goalie.. their number 1 goalie... Toskala I would say is about top 20 mmaaaayybe top 15ish...

Toskala with another solid performance against Rangers... His numbers are going down.. a very good sign..and the leafs D awareness is going up..

[veeten]

Washington 7, Toronto 1.

Go Caps! :D

[Galveston dunes]

I'll say this much about gaolies: Luongo. Thats all that I can say. To have the talent thats in front of him and not ask to opt out of his contract for a team that can put thier marque players on the scoreboard.I watched him last year and he was great,and in thge two games already this year against the Wings he keept things close enough for them cunukadanians to beat the wings but he team failed him both times.Even our homebot Morrison couldn't get things to fall right, not to mention the two twins with a minus 7 on the back to back series.
Yep Roberto Luongo the vezna winner this year.

[A.F.F.]

Yep Roberto Luongo the vezna winner this year.


Wan't a bet on that ?? My pick is Niklas Bäckström from Minnesota.

[Galveston dunes]

Wan't a bet on that ?? My pick is Niklas Bäckström from Minnesota.

The loser has to praise the winners team for a 100 word post on this forum.

[A.F.F.]

The loser has to praise the winners team for a 100 word post on this forum.

You're on.

What if neither one of them wins? Do we have to take an alternative pick. Then I'll pick Kiprusoff on my second choise.

[Galveston dunes]

You're on.

What if neither one of them wins? Do we have to take an alternative pick. Then I'll pick Kiprusoff on my second choise.

And if niether goalie gets the vezna we both have to praise the winner with a 100 word post

[raikk]

Washington 7, Toronto 1.

Go Caps! :D

jumps off building

wow we suck :laugh: :laugh:

schmekers where are the! Leafs vs habs tommorow siggy bet perhaps?

[A.F.F.]

Habs vs. Leafs tonight.

I'm expecting Koivu storm on Toskala's expence :D

[janneppi]

To something actually worthwhile, Pelicans- Tappara 4-0
It warms the heart of a proud hater of Tampere hockey to see that kind of result.
But Pelicans will have to screw up their season soon, otherwise what's the point of having a sports team in Lahti. :D

[A.F.F.]

To something actually worthwhile, Pelicans- Tappara 4-0
It warms the heart of a proud hater of Tampere hockey to see that kind of result.
But Pelicans will have to screw up their season soon, otherwise what's the point of having a sports team in Lahti. :D

Word.

The success of Pelicans is actually confirming that ridicilous assertion that coach can make a difference. :mark:

[raikk]

Habs vs. Leafs tonight.

I'm expecting Koivu storm on Toskala's expence :D

quite the opposite actually ;) .. great game by Toskala,, deserved #1 star...

pay up schmenke! :D

[Galveston dunes]

You got your wish. Stajak scores late in the 3rd period to lift Toronto over the Habs. Now the question is. Did Montreal faulter or are the habs in big trouble this year?

[raikk]

You got your wish. Stajak scores late in the 3rd period to lift Toronto over the Habs. Now the question is. Did Montreal faulter or are the habs in big trouble this year?

they should be alright.. just one game.. now try directing that to the leafs.. easily one of if not the most inconsistant team in the league.. Leafs win one leafs lose one by a big margin. they lose in OT, they blow a 2 goal deficit,they win one, they win another ,they get blown out... the story thus far and unless something is changed it will remain this way and RIP leafs playoffs hopes..

[Galveston dunes]

Not to say that Toronto is the same caliper team as Detroit this year.
I would never compare the Leafs to the Wings normally; however with the Wings talent pool in the last decade, we in the Detroit area have held up posters at games asking why the Wngs were just coasting through the regular season.Believe me they could have done alot better in many years of playoffs if they would have gelled sooner.


Side note:growing up I played and was billeted out to families in the greater Toronto area. I have alot of admiration for the people and the love they have for the game.And yes I have viewed the Leafs before Felix "The Cat" was ever a proffesional goalie.

[Garry Walker]

Senators are playing superbly, but by the time of playoffs they will fail.
Islanders are a surprise.
New york rangers has done it again - Overpaid for a couple of stars. Now they are tied for quite many years and unable to improve. Good job Glenny

[Galveston dunes]

My Wings got lucky and squeeked through another 3rd period onslaught from our latest rival Nasville.But our Stars came through in the shootout.
Zetterberg tied a Wing record for longest point streak from the begining of the season, and Ozzie is still unbeaten.Hasek comes back in our next game welcoming Sergay Federov back to Detroit hosting the Bluejackets.He does still play here doesn't he? I might go see for myself thier giving away orange hunter caps with a Red Wing logo on them.

[raikk]

Senators are playing superbly, but by the time of playoffs they will fail.
Islanders are a surprise.
New york rangers has done it again - Overpaid for a couple of stars. Now they are tied for quite many years and unable to improve. Good job Glenny

their unlikey hero Lunqvist is saving their arses.. But.. they for some reason have become a Defensive minded team instead of the Offensive power house everyone expected of them... After watching thats Sens vs leafs game I think 2nd time could be their lucky one.. this coming from a leafs fan don't forget..
Garry Walker I never knew you followed hockey~!

[raikk]

3-0 Leafs :) ... Raycroft saved our asses in the first tho... I still saw some Defensive breakdowns mind you... they need to improve more on there D but they are getting there..

[A.F.F.]

Hey raikk, OT win for Habs over Leafs :D :D :D

Ooooh... I guess I have to go and visit the Leafs group in Facebook :D

[raikk]

Hey raikk, OT win for Habs over Leafs :D :D :D

Ooooh... I guess I have to go and visit the Leafs group in Facebook :D

McCabe is such a dumbass... entertaining game though... and I liked that Welly got 2 goals :D .. bad play by McCabe and bad coaching descision by Maurice...should been Sundin-Antro and Kaberle

[A.F.F.]

What did Saku Koivu do at the end of the game ?? Something unsportsman-like according the statistics ?? It's just hard to see Saku and the word; unsportsman, in the same sentence.

[Garry Walker]

Garry Walker I never knew you followed hockey~!

I am a huge hockey fan. Hockey represents team spirit more so than most other team sports, immense dedication (how many athletes lose their teeth, only to be back in the next shift as if nothing happened), speed. I love hockey.

As you are a maple leaf fan, how do you rate their team this year (main strengths and weaknesses). Sundin has been on fire, hasnt he? Will you make the PO? I havent been able to catch even one game of theirs this year.

Rangers have lifted their level lately, 7 wins out of 8 games, but I still feel they are lacking something. If Jagr, Drury and Gomez get in groove though, then things will be very difficult for everybody.

I am very dissapointed in the Penguins. With their level of talent, they shouldnt be last in their division.

[Mixa]

I still like about Wings whats quite surprising for a Blues fan but what comes to Wings them needs something if them wants to win the cup. Them goalies Hasek and Osgood are just average level and you need them. Wings has showed in earlier years that a team what wins the regular season almost year by year just dont seem to win a cup and mostly has falled on 1st or 2nd leg. Them are quite good at home but cant seem to win away games. Also I see it quite surprising how well them does in offense,even when I dont see nothing special there. ok (Datsun) is ok and Zetterberg seems to continue to score and yeah Holmstrom is always on the zone and some guys like Filppula or Cleary can make a game to way or another. I think Wings is a strong team because of them defense as it has been for years but its not enough. Dont pick so many Swedes :P and get a good goalie(ok Osgood has won 8 games this season) and all should be well. Luckily the Wings has got away for "oldest player average title" I think.

What comes to my team Blues them started well but then lost a lot of games by a few goals. Ok we have won some top teams of the league but has lost to many teams what we should have won. We have quite an ok goalie and he has been saving a lot of games to us this season aswell and our 1st line(Kariya-Tkachuk-Weight) has some name but powerplay hasnt been too good and the poor home ice has been against us a few times aswell. I hope us to end up for a playoff spot but theres a long way to go but the future looks quite bright I think. Next up we will face the Blue Jackets and yeah I hope to see a win :)

For me the most surprising stuff still has been a poor start of the Sabres and the Devils on east and the great start of the Canes and the Blue Jackets.

[raikk]

I am a huge hockey fan. Hockey represents team spirit more so than most other team sports, immense dedication (how many athletes lose their teeth, only to be back in the next shift as if nothing happened), speed. I love hockey.

As you are a maple leaf fan, how do you rate their team this year (main strengths and weaknesses). Sundin has been on fire, hasnt he? Will you make the PO? I havent been able to catch even one game of theirs this year.

Rangers have lifted their level lately, 7 wins out of 8 games, but I still feel they are lacking something. If Jagr, Drury and Gomez get in groove though, then things will be very difficult for everybody.

I am very dissapointed in the Penguins. With their level of talent, they shouldnt be last in their division.

I think my team can be summed up perfectly as the last 40 years in Maple Leafs history... ups and downs but avaerage.. Our coach who I was once a fan of is making terrible coaching desicisons (leting McCabe hog all the minutes and giving Andy Wozneiwski more minutes then our young GOOD defensive prospects like Kronwall and Stralman.. Our General Manager is a complete and utter moron.. trades Tukka Rask (our best prospect for Andrew Raycroft who had a terrible last season with the Bruins Yeeek!).. then our general Manager ties up about 20+ million to our BlueLine (Gill,Kubina,McCabe are the ugly examples) and gives McCabe,Kubina,Tucker NTC's like it's halloween candy..Our future looks bleek as we look to sit on mediocrity for a while..

Now the good signs... Kaberle got huge underpayment and a NTC (one of the best defenceman in the league, Sundin took a pay cut for the team, we did greatly improve our goaltending situation with putting Vesa Toskala.. With the few prospects we have we certainly got steals... like Kyle Wellwood, Alex Steen,Matt Stajan, Anton Stralman,Justin Pogge,Jiri Tlusty,Nikolia Kulemon.. and a few more to name of.. Nik Antropov,Kyle Wellwood,Mats Sundin,Tomas Kaberle,Kubina(before he got injured),Alexi Ponikarovsky,Steen,Stajan have been playing great hockey.. Vesa Toskala ,despite bad looking GAA has been stunning.. It's just the lack of D awareness and discipline has been the biggest factor to out losses... look at our team Goals Against and you will figure out why..

Leafs right now are 7-8-5.. If they keep playing like this they will not get into the playoffs If improvement comes over way via a trade or some how beating sense into our D .. then we WILL make the playoffs..

The thing is you know the Pens will get out of their slump.. same arguably (as much as it pains me to say it ) Vancouver and even Calgary.. this team.. very different..

AFF: I never heard of Koivu getting called out for unsportsman like conduct at the end of the game so I'm not sure at all...

[A.F.F.]

Wow :eek:

What a night for Jussi Jokinen, four goals for Dallas, three of them in second period. has to be the first for Jokinen in his career :up:

[raikk]

Wow :eek:

What a night for Jussi Jokinen, four goals for Dallas, three of them in second period. has to be the first for Jokinen in his career :up:

good night for Finn's... Toskala first shutout as a Maple Leaf against the Senators! :s hocked: Montreal won 7-4 I belive..best defensive game Ive seen from Toronto in a long time.. they need to play more liek that

[A.F.F.]

This gotta be the first... raikk mentioning Habs' win ;)

But yes, Toskala stopped Senators and in my view, nick of time. I'm glad he has the fan's support in Toronto :up:

One particular player I want to see in action is Tuukka Rask. I believe he was Toronto's booking at first ??

[raikk]

This gotta be the first... raikk mentioning Habs' win ;)

But yes, Toskala stopped Senators and in my view, nick of time. I'm glad he has the fan's support in Toronto :up:

One particular player I want to see in action is Tuukka Rask. I believe he was Toronto's booking at first ??

he was ours until we traded him for Andrew Raycroft :banghead: he's at Boston now. he may very well get his first start this year.. I watched him in the World juniors live and on TV and he is a fantastic goalie.. I wish him all the luck.. I still wish he was ours :(

[A.F.F.]

How about that Rask ??

What a win for Boston and behalf of Leafs :eek:

Bittersweet I almost could say... ;)

[raikk]

How about that Rask ??

What a win for Boston and behalf of Leafs :eek:

Bittersweet I almost could say... ;)

A bag of chips could decide the future of this team batter then JFJ :rolleyes:

[BTCC2]

UK Elite League Round Up:

bmibaby Elite League

1 Coventry Blaze 37
2 Cardiff Devils 36
3 Sheffield Steelers 31
4 Newcastle Vipers 30
5 Nottingham Panthers 24
6 Belfast Giants 23
7 Manchester Phoenix 20
8 Basingstoke Bison 17
9 Hull Stingrays 15
10 Edinburgh Capitals 10


Challenge Cup

Group A
1 Nottingham Panthers 7
2 Cardiff Devils 5
3 Coventry Blaze 4 (Hahaha I love it when they're not top for once)
4 Basingstoke Bison 3
5 Belfast Giants 1
Group B
1 Sheffield Steelers 6
2 Newcastle Vipers 6
3 Manchester Phoenix 4
4 Edinburgh Capitals 4
5 Hull Stingrays 0

[A.F.F.]

Alright, it's time to bring this baby up again because Teemu Selänne is going to be BACK with Ducks :bounce:

I think Scott Niedermeyer's decision to continue his career meant a lot to Teemu. Anyway, he is back on blades again... AND HE SCORES !!!!!! :D :D

[A.F.F.]

I'm so thrilled I decided to make a double post :mark:

[raikk]

I'm so thrilled I decided to make a double post :mark:

good job I was wondering where in frozen hell this thread was... just like the leafs... :mark: best for them to tank their problems away... maybe even trade Mats and use him as a rental... get good picks and prospects and re-sign him in offseason... as long as relations arn't strained...

[A.F.F.]

maybe even trade Mats and use him as a rental...

:eek:

[schmenke]

I can't help but think that the plan all along was to bring Selanne in mid-way in the season to ensure a playoff spot for the Ducks :mark:

Anyways, it's good to see him back although I think it'll be a a couple of weeks before we actually see him on the bench.

Back in September I took a chance on Selanne and picked him in my pool :D . I then dropped him in our 30-game redraft in December (and picked up Mike Richards :up: ). We have our second redraft coming up, and since I may be picking first (don't laugh :mad: ), I may get to pick up Selanne again :D

[A.F.F.]

I can't help but think that the plan all along was to bring Selanne in mid-way in the season to ensure a playoff spot for the Ducks :mark:



Who knows really ?

I think had had his coat totally empty after finally winning Stanley Cup and wasn't really sure if he wanted to play anymore. Finnish athletics has this weird fashion novadays to retire on absolute top, like Marcus Grönholm in WRC.

But when teemu saw Scott niedermeyer coming back on ice, maybe he thought they can win the Cup again ??

But I way too glad to see him back to worry about the reasons anymore :D

[schmenke]

The other theory is that he is leaving Anaheim for another team. The Ducks bring him into the lineup and have him play a few games before trading him just before the deadline...

Nah, can't see that happening... :mark:

[A.F.F.]

The other theory is that he is leaving Anaheim for another team. The Ducks bring him into the lineup and have him play a few games before trading him just before the deadline...

Nah, can't see that happening... :mark:

There is only one team in NHL where Teemu will play and that is Ducks.

[raikk]

:eek:

think of the return... the leafs are going no where so let him contend for a cup.. I love Mats but this teams is just a tragity leafs need some prospects... just blow up the team but keep Kabs and the youth and Toskala...

[Garry Walker]

good job I was wondering where in frozen hell this thread was... just like the leafs... :mark: best for them to tank their problems away... maybe even trade Mats and use him as a rental... get good picks and prospects and re-sign him in offseason... as long as relations arn't strained...

Does`nt he have a no-trade clause? In any case I have heard he does not want to be traded, even though TML is really sucking at the moment.

[raikk]

Does`nt he have a no-trade clause? In any case I have heard he does not want to be traded, even though TML is really sucking at the moment.

that is true.. theres a good chance he won't waive it but we'll see.. If he doesnt I 100% understand and respect him for doing it.. if thats the case we would have to unload JFJ's huge arse contracts.. IE: Kubina,McCabe,Blake,Tucker,Gill ect but on a same token keep our core of youth intact and build upon it..

[A.F.F.]

12 years ago Teemu played his first game with Ducks against Islanders. Tonite it's the comeback. Selänne should be in roster against NYI. Ducks need a sniper and hopefully Teemu is on fire :hot:

[Garry Walker]

12 years ago Teemu played his first game with Ducks against Islanders. Tonite it's the comeback. Selänne should be in roster against NYI. Ducks need a sniper and hopefully Teemu is on fire :hot:

He had an assist in todays game.

Nice performance by TML :rotflmao:

[woody2goody]

Just wanted to post something with regard to Florida Panthers RW Richard Zednik who suffered a horrible neck injury against the Buffalo Sabres the other day. One of his main arteries was cut accidentally by the blade of Panthers captain Olli Jokinen when Jokinen fell down after a check.

Zednik skated to the bench under his own power, and then was rushed to hospital. It was announced about 10 minutes after the incident that Zednik was in a stable condition.

He will be out for probably at least a couple of months, however it is speculated that he will be able to return for the playoffs should the Cats make it.

I wish him, his family and his teammates well after this frightening accident.

[A.F.F.]

Olli Jokinen was totally shocked and thought they should have finished the game at once. God for bid Zednik managed to skate directly to the bench to get first aid and later on got a succesfull surgery.

I hope accidents like that never happen anymore.

Here's Olli in an interview after the game. :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv3VWGRc7sY

[Tomi]

My friends son Sami did play his first game in NHL for the Capitals last night, he got some reasonable minutes and powerplay too, not bad.

[Garry Walker]

Just wanted to post something with regard to Florida Panthers RW Richard Zednik who suffered a horrible neck injury against the Buffalo Sabres the other day. One of his main arteries was cut accidentally by the blade of Panthers captain Olli Jokinen when Jokinen fell down after a check.

Zednik skated to the bench under his own power, and then was rushed to hospital. It was announced about 10 minutes after the incident that Zednik was in a stable condition.

He will be out for probably at least a couple of months, however it is speculated that he will be able to return for the playoffs should the Cats make it.

I wish him, his family and his teammates well after this frightening accident.

It was not quite as sickening as the Clint Malarchuk incident, but still, sick. Quite disturbing to watch.

Zednik was lucky actually, he could have easily have died had the cut been an inch to a different side.

[BTCC2]

UK Elite League Roun up:

1. Coventry Blaze 68
2. Belfast Giants 64
3. Sheffield Steelers 62
4. Nottingham Panthers 58
5. Newcastle Vipers 52
6. Cardiff Devils 41
7. Manchester Phoenix 41
8. Basingstoke Bison 34
9. Edinburgh Capitals 29
10. Hull Stingrays 22


Challenge Cup Final

Sheffield Steelers 3-6 Nottingham Panthers


British Knockout Cup Semi Finals

Coventry Blaze 8-5 (agg) Edinburgh Capitals
Hull Stingrays v Basingstoke Bison

[A.F.F.]

Wow !! :eek:

Way to go Habs. Rangers was winning 5 to nothing but Habs woke up and won 6-5 in a shootout. And who other made the winning goal than le capitan himself, Saku Koivu :D

[Garry Walker]

Wow !! :eek:

Way to go Habs. Rangers was winning 5 to nothing but Habs woke up and won 6-5 in a shootout. And who other made the winning goal than le capitan himself, Saku Koivu :D

If I was Tom Renney, I would have made all those guys clean the toilets at MSG for 3 hours after that loss. No team loses a 5 goal lead, unless they completely stop working. Unacceptable.

It was almost as bad/embarrassing as finns losing to Sweden in Helsinki in world championship some years ago from a huge lead.

[woody2goody]

My friends son Sami did play his first game in NHL for the Capitals last night, he got some reasonable minutes and powerplay too, not bad.

Who is your friend's son? I'll take a shot at Sami Lepisto but that could be so far wide of the mark. You can laugh at me if you want :)

[A.F.F.]

If I was Tom Renney, I would have made all those guys clean the toilets at MSG for 3 hours after that loss. No team loses a 5 goal lead, unless they completely stop working. Unacceptable.

It was almost as bad/embarrassing as finns losing to Sweden in Helsinki in world championship some years ago from a huge lead.

Please sir, would you not mention that ever.

[BTCC2]

Surely evryone must agree that the best world championship/olympics was in 1936 when Great Britain were crowned CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD AHEAD OF CANADA AND USA

Ahhhhh good times.

[raikk]

Surely evryone must agree that the best world championship/olympics was in 1936 when Great Britain were crowned CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD AHEAD OF CANADA AND USA

Ahhhhh good times.

:laugh: :laugh:

Any one else super excited about trade deadline day? :)

[A.F.F.]

Any one else super excited about trade deadline day? :)

For the sake of Mats Sundin and Olli Jokinen, yes.

Great night for Kipper last night btw.

[BTCC2]

[quote="raikk"] :laugh: :laugh: QUOTE]

I would like to point out that we beat you 2-1 ;)

[DonJippo]

12 years ago Teemu played his first game with Ducks against Islanders. Tonite it's the comeback. Selänne should be in roster against NYI. Ducks need a sniper and hopefully Teemu is on fire :hot:

Atleast last night he was on fire 3+2 against Chicago when Ducks beat Blackhawks 6-3.

[harvick#1]

Forsberg back with Colorado :D

hopefully it would be like old times with Sakic

[A.F.F.]

I wonder in shape Forsberg is. It's no secret he has had a lot of problems with his ankle.

[schmenke]

Hossa to Pittsburg with only a few minutes to spare! With him, Malkin and now Sid The Kid skating again, this team will be unstoppable.

[A.F.F.]

Still waiting for OJ trade. He in Ducks or alongside with Iginla would be so cool.

[schmenke]

Not gonna happen. The NHL trade deadline was a couple of hours ago...

[veeten]

Capitals get Huet from Montreal, and Fedorov from Columbus. Also Cooke from Vancouver.

[schmenke]

Yep, the Habs have now put all their playoff hopes into their rookie goalie Price. Although he had a win last night against the Thrashers, he wasn't exactly tested by the Hossa-less team.
Gaining a second round draft pick, I'm not convinced this was a good move for the Habs :mark:

[A.F.F.]

Yep, the Habs have now put all their playoff hopes into their rookie goalie Price. Although he had a win last night against the Thrashers, he wasn't exactly tested by the Hossa-less team.
Gaining a second round draft pick, I'm not convinced this was a good move for the Habs :mark:

I think Price's bless was hugely over-rated Lehtonen on the other goal.

[A.F.F.]

Still waiting for OJ trade. He in Ducks or alongside with Iginla would be so cool.

It turns out that OJ's trade from Florida wasn't even near :mark: I'm not sure what to think. I know by fact OJ is really frustrated with the team struggling and never getting in playoffs. I wonder how he can keep his motivation high?

On the other hand, he should look Mats Sundin who decided to stay loyal to Leafs and not try change the team closer to Stanley Cup.

[schmenke]

I think Price's bless was hugely over-rated Lehtonen on the other goal.

Lehtonen performed o.k. It was the Atlanta defence that let him down.

[A.F.F.]

Lehtonen performed o.k. It was the Atlanta defence that let him down.

Lehtonen; good night, bad night, oops. You disagree him having the proper consistency ?

[schmenke]

Caps 10, Bruins 2 :s hock:
Jeepers, Washington makes a couple of trades and all of the sudden they're a scoring powerhouse :mark:
9 points for Ovetchkin.

Oh, btw, Habs tied for first in the East (despite their loss in the Tank) :D :up:

Sens loose again...

[veeten]

Hat trick in the 1st period, 5 for the game. :)

Reasons as to why they call him 'Alexander the Great'. ;) :D

[schmenke]

'Alexander the Greatly Paid' :D

[A.F.F.]

Well he seem to be every penny worth.

[tstran17_88]

I'm going up to St. Paul Sunday to watch San Jose and Minnesota play. :D Normally I'm a Nashville fan, but I like the Wild too. Plus, I always liked Joe Pavelski when he was a UW Badger, so I picked a San Jose game to go to this year.

[tstran17_88]

Forsberg back with Colorado :D

hopefully it would be like old times with SakicHe wasn't much help to the Predators last year. But ultimately it was the sieve in the goal that cost the Preds. Thankfully he's in Florida now! :D

[A.F.F.]

Talking about Cats, who is this guy Craig Anderson. :eek: Two shutouts with unbelievable numbers in a row. Makes Vokoun look like Kari Lehtonen.

[schmenke]

How about that Crawford fella at Chicago. Gets a shutout in his first ever NHL game :up:

[tstran17_88]

I saw a good one in Minnesota Sunday. Brian Ralston tied it up 2-2 with 20 seconds left in the third. San Jose won it in the shootout though. Joe Pavelski (Wisconsin kid) got the first goal in the shootout for San Jose and Pierre-Marc Bouchard made a nice spin move to tie up the shootout 1-1 right after that.

[schmenke]

4 - zip shutout for Price last night. I had my doubts about this kid but he's quickly proving me wrong... :up:
It still remains to be seen how he'll handle playoff pressue :mark:

[N. Jones]

Crawford saved my Hawks from getting routed by the Wings but it looks as if their playoffs chances are kaput

[A.F.F.]

How many rounds there still are before the playoffs begin?

[schmenke]

Not sure; about a dozen I think.
Last games are played on April 6th.

[BTCC2]

UK Elite League Round up:

1 Coventry Blaze 82
2 Sheffield Steelers 78
3 Nottingham Panthers 69
4 Belfast Giants 68
5 Newcastle Vipers 58
6 Cardiff Devils 53
7 Manchester Phoenix 47
8 Edinburgh Capitals 37
9 Basingstoke Bison 37
10 Hull Stingrays 31

I guess I will settle for a mid table position it's a big improvement on last year but with the players we have I still think we should be top 3.

[schmenke]

Habs have clinched :D

[raikk]

Habs have clinched :D

leafs suckbutwerestill gonnabeat ya tommoorow ;)

[edv]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b166/edvedv/Misc/Officially.jpg

[schmenke]

Hehehe...


Koivu out for 4 weeks :(

[veeten]

now that's cold, edv... ;) :laugh: :p :

[edv]

You can also add the Oilers to the Golfing Brigade....Flames made sure of that last night :)

[schmenke]

Flames play again tonight and can clinch with one point.

[schmenke]

Well, the Flames lost to the Wild, but Vancouver also lost, so Calgary is in the playoffs.


With a win on Saturday, and if the Pens lose on Sunday, the Habs will take the conference title :up:

[BTCC2]

UK Elite League Playoff semi Finals

Coventry Blaze 4-2 Newcastle Vipers
Sheffiled Steelers 2-1 Cardiff Devils

UK Elite League Playoff final

Coventry Blaze 0-2 Sheffield Steelers

[schmenke]

Well, the Flames lost to the Wild, but Vancouver also lost, so Calgary is in the playoffs.


With a win on Saturday, and if the Pens lose on Sunday, the Habs will take the conference title :up:

Pens lose!

Habs are Eastern Conference champs! :s mokin: :bounce:

Bring on the Cup! :s mokin: :D

[janneppi]

PAH!

[N. Jones]

Here is how I see the first round shaking out:

WEST
Detroit should rule Nashville as I think the Preds are in disarray.
San Jose may beat Calgary but it will be close. Why? SJ lost two in a row after going 18-0-2. Losing streaks into the playoffs is a bad thing.
Minnesota should take care of Colorado because I don't believe in the Avs D and they are playing with past glory. This team is going to need a rebuild very soon.
Anaheim should defeat Dallas but this will also be close unless Brad Richards does not come back.

EAST
Montreal should beat Boston because if Boston brass doesn't believe in Tim Thomas then why should I? (although I do - I just do not understand that situation).
Pittsburgh is going to kill Ottawa because the Sens are another team in disarray with too many key injuries. This is NOT the same team that started 14-0-and whatever.
Philly is going to defeat Washington because the Caps are going to be like the Pens last year - no playoff experience.
New Jersey is going to beat the Rangers because the Rangers can't beat NJ and their captain is the uninspired Jaromir Jagr.

[Garry Walker]

New Jersey is going to beat the Rangers because the Rangers can't beat NJ and their captain is the uninspired Jaromir Jagr.

Well, in regular season it was 7:1 for Rangers against Devils...

My predictions:
Montreal vs Bruins - Habs in 5. Bruins will have nothing against Habs, loss of Koivu can impact Habs though.
Pittsburgh vs Ottawa - Pitts in 5. Hossa, Malkin, Crosby will be too much to handle, especially as Alfredsson will be out.
Philly vs Caps - Caps in 6. Fedorov has always shone in playoffs.
Rangers vs Devils - Devils in 6
Ducks vs Stars - Stars in 7 . Toughest to predict, these are both teams that could go all the way.
San Jose vs Flames - SJ in 6. Two teams I both quite like, but Phaneuf won`t save Flames against the superior talent of SJ. But if he can dominate against Thornton and Co in the first two games and get to them, it might change the series completely.
Detroit vs Nashville - Detroit in 4. Or Detroit could collapse, has happened before. But they are just too strong IMO.
Avalance vs Minnesota - Avs in 6. Forsberg, Hejduk, Sakic. Minnesota won`t handle it.

[BTCC2]

Just wanted to say that things are currently looking quite good for Great Britain in the World Championships Division 1

Results so far:

Great Britain 1-2 Poland (PS)
Austria 10-5 Great Britain
South Korea 1-4 Great Britain

Remaining Matches:

Great Britain v Netherlands
Kazakhstan v Great Britain


Table:


1 Austria 9
2 Kazakhstan 8
3 Poland 8
4 Great Britain 4
5 Netherlands 0
6 South Korea 0

[schmenke]

Sens are the first team to be eliminated from the NHL playoffs.

Nashville and Detroit series tied at 2. Who woulda thunk :mark:

[Garry Walker]

Sens are the first team to be eliminated from the NHL playoffs.

Nashville and Detroit series tied at 2. Who woulda thunk :mark:

Indeed.
I did think, though, that if Nashville can win one, they can do real damage to Detroit. For some reason Detroit is one of those teams that at times collapses against a weaker opponent in playoff (as they did with Edmonton few years back).
While logic would say that Detroit will win the next games, I am far from sure at this point and would even consider a bet on Nashville for overall win of series.

I didn`t get to see any Sens vs Pens games. Were the games more about Ottawa underperforming or Pens really being so strong?
IMO, any team will have it hard to beat the pens, they have all the required components for a great cup run, although I do have some doubts about Fleury. But when you have Malkin, Crosby and Hossa, you can manage.

[veeten]

nice game from the Caps, stave off elimination with a 3-2 win. :)

[tstran17_88]

The Wings are a bunch of playoff chokers the past few years...if they make it past my Preds, they'll get killed by the Ducks/Stars in the next round or the Sharks in the finals.

What the heck is going on with the Habs? They should be killing Boston. :laugh: Normally I wouldn't care about the East except I want to see Benedict Kessel's team lose! :D

PS...Go Wild & Preds! :cheese:

[schmenke]

...What the heck is going on with the Habs? They should be killing Boston. ...

I had my doubts when Huet was traded, leaving the team with two rookie goalies heading into the playoffs. Price let in 10 goals in the last two games. That's not how a team wins playoff hockey :down:

And the return of Koivu didn't necessarily help :mark:

The Wild and Preds are now both golfing, as are the Ducks and Devils :D

[A.F.F.]

GOOOOO HAAAABS!

...did I er? :erm:

Final night of first round. I'm hoping for Flames and Philly :up:

[veeten]

my Caps lost. :(

[schmenke]

So did the Flames :mark:

Philly in Montréal Thursday night :bounce:

[tstran17_88]

The Wild and Preds are now both golfing, as are the Ducks and Devils :D Didn't expect the Preds to beat the Wings, but I thought the Wild would get by the Av's. Gaborik forgot to show up for that series.

I'm pulling for the Sharks to win it...Pavelski was one of my fav's when he was with UW.

[A.F.F.]

Habs and Stars for me.

[AndyRAC]

Habs and Stars for me.

I've thought that. It would be interesting - Gillett v Hicks, mmm, what a thought!

[schmenke]

Habs and Wings in the finals.
Although I hate to say it, I think the Pens have a chance too... :mark:

[A.F.F.]

Habs and Wings in the finals.
Although I hate to say it, I think the Pens have a chance too... :mark:

No they won't. They have Habs in their path to finale ;)

[Garry Walker]

Well, now my real hope is that Penguins and that diving crosby won`t win. Someone should kick the hell out of this little diving ****.


San Jose is really struggling to match Dallas at the moment and Avs has no chance against Wings :(

[N. Jones]

I don't think Carey Price is ready to carry the Habs to playoff glory. It's looking to me like an all Pennsylvania in the East.

It also looks like Detroit/Dallas in the West as Colorado just cannot seem to slow Detroit down and the Sharks were done in the first round, not aggression getting to the offensive zone and no physical play all the way around. They are just leaving Nabokov to do all of the work.

[tstran17_88]

No they won't. They have Habs in their path to finale ;) That's assuming they get by the Flyers. ;)

[L5->R5/CR]

Currently I am ashamed to be an Avalanche fan.

Injuries aren't helping against Detroit but 8 of the last 9 periods were very bush league and just flat out bad.

[A.F.F.]

That's assuming they get by the Flyers. ;)

I hate to agree....

Habs vs. Flyers seem to be only tight pair of the remaining. Stars, Wings and Penguins seem to be just cruising to semifinals.

[Garry Walker]

Just awful playoffs. All the teams I like are doing badly and the hated penguins and flyers are doing well :(

Oh well, Go stars

[schmenke]

Pens are looking good. Haven't lost a game yet. :s hock:

[A.F.F.]

If Pens will the Cup, my bitter opinion is that is too much too for Crosby and Malkin :devil:

[tstran17_88]

Just awful playoffs. All the teams I like are doing badly and the hated penguins and flyers are doing well :(

Oh well, Go starsI feel your pain...my two fav's (Minnesota & Nashville) lost in the first round and the Sharks (my next pick) are about to loose to the Stars. Now I'll just spend the rest of the playoffs hoping that the Wings get killed.

[tstran17_88]

Ohhh....tough nuts for the Habs!

But, what pains me the most is that some of the guys that killed the Habs used to be with Nashville and Milwaukee...especially Scottie Upshall, which we traded for that waste of space Peter Forsberg.

[edv]

Sorry Schmenke. Habs do not rule.

[A.F.F.]

Apparently Stars want to proceed the hard way :mark:

[tstran17_88]

Apparently Stars want to proceed the hard way :mark: That's not a bad thing...the longer the Wings have to wait, the more they'll be out of game shape! :cheese: (I know it's a reach!)

[Garry Walker]

I watched the penguins vs rangers game last night and the referees were shocking. I have seen such joke very rarely in professional leagues.
2 of Penguins goals were offside, they got away with double-minor high-sticking with blood drawn call. It was like Gary Bettman had given orders to make sure Penguins (and diving Crosby) get through quickly. Complete joke.

Well, now I can only hope that either Wings or Stars win it, although I have no particular like for either and that penguins don`t win it.

[A.F.F.]

Well, now I can only hope that either Wings or Stars win it, although I have no particular like for either and that penguins don`t win it.


I hear you Garry.

My order is if not Stars then Philly, and if not Philly then Detroit. Penguins is not a possibility for me.

[A.F.F.]

Few words about IIHF tournament in Canada.

Seems that the host team Canada is way strongest overall. First pick for gold. Russia has also highly skilled team but unfortunately they lay on one mediocore goalie now. I guess their hockey goverment is doing everything to get Nabokov to the games. Chech always dangerous as well as USA.

We have a very good team in together, especially when Saku Koivu is joining in couple of days. But still we managed to give Norway one point :down: Germany made first surprise by winning Slovakia, even they don't have their highest level players in. Should Finns win Slovakia and Norway wins Germany, Slovakia is out :eek:

[Garry Walker]

I hear you Garry.

My order is if not Stars then Philly, and if not Philly then Detroit. Penguins is not a possibility for me.


Why do you not like penguins? After all, all those teams have finnish players playing for them, although one has to admit that Ruutu is a dick.

[Garry Walker]

Few words about IIHF tournament in Canada.

Seems that the host team Canada is way strongest overall. First pick for gold. Russia has also highly skilled team but unfortunately they lay on one mediocore goalie now. I guess their hockey goverment is doing everything to get Nabokov to the games. Chech always dangerous as well as USA.

We have a very good team in together, especially when Saku Koivu is joining in couple of days. But still we managed to give Norway one point :down: Germany made first surprise by winning Slovakia, even they don't have their highest level players in. Should Finns win Slovakia and Norway wins Germany, Slovakia is out :eek:

Finland vs Norway was a shocking game almost. After the first 3-4 minutes I expected it to be 6:0, because finns were so dominant.

Russians have gotten Nabokov, also Tyutin from rangers and Markov from habs. They are dangerous as always (How could you not be dangerous with Ovechkin and Kovalchuk playing for you?), but I still have some doubts.

With Saku joining Finland, they will be better, but I have some doubts about your goalies this time.

Canada will obviously be very hard to beat.

[Tomi]

Yes, our guys did not prepaire them self well against Norway, Russia looks stronger now if they got Nabokov, but the disiplin always has been a problem for them. I agree Canada is clear favorite. Our strenght has always been good coaching and not too many "big stars", I hope that will take our team to the medal games this year too.
Been enjoying to watch proper hockey now again.

[Magnus]

swedish papers believ "Tre Kronor" is worse than for a long time this year. Beating France with 9-0 didn´t make anything better since France had a decent first period.
Wow BTW! i just posted in tha icehockey thread :D

[Tomi]

swedish papers believ "Tre Kronor" is worse than for a long time this year. Beating France with 9-0 didn´t make anything better since France had a decent first period.
Wow BTW! i just posted in tha icehockey thread :D

Why is so many Swedes refusing to come and play for their country?

[janneppi]

But still we managed to give Norway one point :down:
I meant to watch the game and go to bed as soon as the outcome was clear, but no, they managed to draw it to overtime and I got to bed after 1 am. :(
At least they made the third goal quite quickly.

The worst part by far is Tamminen, again, his method of learning a new word every year and repeating it endlessly is rather tiresome. You could even say there isn't enough variation in his analysis. :)

[Tomi]

The worst part by far is Tamminen, again, his method of learning a new word every year and repeating it endlessly is rather tiresome. You could even say there isn't enough variation in his analysis. :)

Agree, the guy sounds like somekind consult.

[A.F.F.]

Agree, the guy sounds like somekind consult.

He is a consult :)

[A.F.F.]

Why do you not like penguins? After all, all those teams have finnish players playing for them, although one has to admit that Ruutu is a dick.

Ruutu being a dick is the only positivie thing in the team ;) :p :

I said it earlier, the junior pair Crosby/Malkin, them being so good at so early on their career... It's just my bitter envy. Should they win it's too much too soon.

[A.F.F.]

but I have some doubts about your goalies this time.



I rely on Bäckström :up:

[A.F.F.]

Wow BTW! i just posted in tha icehockey thread :D


:bounce: :up: :)

[Tomi]

He is a consult :)

that's why he sound like one.

[Magnus]

Why is so many Swedes refusing to come and play for their country?
I think it is part economical issues and part nationalistic; swedes in common are not that very patriotic. There have been discussions reharding players reluctance when it comes to playing in tre Kronor. Spoiled brats and other comments have been throwed around...

[Tomi]

I think it is part economical issues and part nationalistic; swedes in common are not that very patriotic. There have been discussions reharding players reluctance when it comes to playing in tre Kronor. Spoiled brats and other comments have been throwed around...

Ahaa, I was just thinking if they have some problem with the coach or something, there is so many Swedes this year that refuse, it almost looks like it could be somekind of protest.

[Garry Walker]

I rely on Bäckström :up:

Well, he is a good player no doubt.

Why didn`t Kiprusoff come to the tournament?

[A.F.F.]

Why didn`t Kiprusoff come to the tournament?

An interesting question which I'd also like to know.

[Tomi]

I dont think they actually was trying to get him "little Kiprusoff" too hard, he got quite hard critic when he refused last time.

[A.F.F.]

Very entertaining game USA vs. Canada last night. Amazing player that Dustin Brown :eek: I wasn't aware of him before yesterday at all.

[Tomi]

Saku just arrived to town :)

[Garry Walker]

Very entertaining game USA vs. Canada last night. Amazing player that Dustin Brown :eek: I wasn't aware of him before yesterday at all.

I usually like the canadian team, but yesterday I was 100% behind USA. They really deserved to win.

Finns must be happy today, Swedes getting beaten by the Swiss team :D
Just as I wrote that, some swede did a very dirty move on a swiss player, stupid idiot.

Saku and Selänne on the same line together should be awesome :up:

[A.F.F.]

Finns must be happy today, Swedes getting beaten by the Swiss team :D

You cannot imagine the amount of joy I'm feeling right now :D



Saku and Selänne on the same line together should be awesome :up:

They will be ;)

[DonJippo]

An interesting question which I'd also like to know.

Something one should ask from Flames...

[janneppi]

Not the best game yesterday from the Finnish team, Bäckströmberger seems to spit out the pucks back to the best goal making area and defense men make some silly passes. 1.st forward lineup needs a kick in the backside as well.

[Magnus]

sweden got beat by the swiss team. There is only one thing to say: :s

[janneppi]

Not a very good tournament for Swedish team, first they almost lost to Belarus, apparently France game wasn't too great either, now this.

[DonJippo]

Not a very good tournament for Swedish team, first they almost lost to Belarus, apparently France game wasn't too great either, now this.

Yes I almost feel sorry for them.....not :p

[A.F.F.]

Not a good tournament for Slovaks either. Thanks to similar reasons than Team Sweden, Slovakia is out of top 12. :eek:

[BTCC2]

Well Great Britain came 4th in our Division 1 group again.

The highlight being an 8-1 victory over Netherlands.

Although our position has stayed the same our performances were much better and I genuninley feel that in 5-6 years we could get promoted to the main cahmpionship.

[Garry Walker]

Not a good tournament for Slovaks either. Thanks to similar reasons than Team Sweden, Slovakia is out of top 12. :eek:

Unbelieveable.