Proton Satria S2000 MEM [Archive] - Page 2

25th April 2010, 10:05

The Malaysian Rally has finished and unfortunately Alister McRae retired at the start of SS11 due to engine failure resulting from damage to the radiator sustained after a jump.

Atkinson finished 4th in the APRC classification but good that he got a lot of miles under his belt with the Proton.

hantu

1st May 2010, 11:00

Have Atko or McRae commented on their liking of the car ?

Atko interview on APRC tv
http://www.aprc.tv/newsPage.php?Atkinson-reflects-on-promising-APRC-return-296

-I can’t tell you how good it is to be back in a rally car again! And what a rally car! The Satria is amazing, a real driver’s car. I hadn’t done much testing before the start of the event and I’d been away from racing for a year and a half, so it was fantastic to get to shakedown and get through some corners. -

-The good thing about the Satria is that you really have to work at it to get the best out of it, which is fantastic, but maybe not quite so fantastic when it’s so hot and humid in the car! -

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Alister Q&A on Autosport

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83166

"
: Absolutely. Like I said, this event didn't suit us – and the Group N cars were running with the bigger [33mm] restrictor on the turbos, so they had more power than ever and we were still able to run faster than them. On top of that, I'd never done this event before, so I wasn't really too sure how we would go.

Yes, I am pleased with everything. Okay, it's disappointing not to come away with the win, but coming away knowing that we have the pace to win the championship, leading the rally, setting fastest times and being right in the fight is the next best thing. I have to say, I really felt pretty confident that this one was in the bag, I thought we'd got it – the perfect start for Proton and the boys on the home event. But it wasn't to be."

RICARDO75

21st May 2010, 21:15

After SS1:
Alister McRae 3rd
Chris Atkinson: 6th

22nd May 2010, 09:32

Looks like MEM still have some work to do with the Satria. Both drivers retired after 5 stages of Rally Hokkaido, and they weren't that fast either.

Drivers of the calibre of Atkinson and McRae shouldn't be behind those traditional N4 drivers.

Hope they have a good pre-Ypres test as I really like the car and it's great to see another make involved in IRC.

It's JM

5th June 2010, 20:05

Now that I look at some of these S2000 cars. Will these cars (including the Satria) move forward with a plan to develop their cars further and enter the WRC in 2011?

18th June 2010, 10:49

Does anybody know what the "R3" in "Proton R3 Rally Team" means?

Mirek

18th June 2010, 11:13

Satria R3 is Proton's stock hot-hatch. So it's marketing name for the team ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_Satria_R3

18th June 2010, 11:24

]Satria R3 is Proton's stock hot-hatch. So it's marketing name for the team ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_Satria_R3

Thanks Mirek, "Race, Rally, Research"

Mintexmemory

21st June 2010, 17:16

Result from the w/e of Rally Haute Senne
1st Snijers
2nd Atkinson
3rd Cave :s mokin:

Protons apppear to be under-estimated by many, A Mac has experience of Ypres. Skoda and Peugeot may have a fight on their hands. Hope so, it'll make the journey very worthwile :) 3 sleeps before overnight ferry on Thursday

mousti

21st June 2010, 17:28

Barreis

21st June 2010, 17:30

They won't win for sure..

21st June 2010, 19:16

I agree with Mousti, they won't be able to fight Peugeot or Skoda at the front.

But I wish the team well; I like the car and the ethos of the team hiring two very strong drivers to move their programme forward.

I think one car in the points would be a good result on a rally with such a strong entry list like Ypres.

Sulland

21st June 2010, 21:30

I always cheer for the underdogs - so go Proton !

I just hope that Proton are willing to put some money into development, at least when they landed a class driver like Atko !

22nd June 2010, 14:28

I always cheer for the underdogs - so go Proton !

I just hope that Proton are willing to put some money into development, at least when they landed a class driver like Atko !

Proton must be putting a fair amount of money in as there are no major sponsors on the car. Whether that is enough for serious development we will see.

They do have a new spec engine with taller gearing for Ypres though: http://irc.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=11&stid=8749

Luis Pacheco

26th June 2010, 10:14

In the interview given by Melliot to Rally Radio the possibility of not competing more this year in the IRC was in the air ...
I hope not. :(

26th June 2010, 13:18

In the interview given by Melliot to Rally Radio the possibility of not competing more this year in the IRC was in the air ...
I hope not. :(

That would be a great shame. If they can sort the reliability then they can start to work on performance and setup.

Barreis

26th June 2010, 14:41

They are good on gravel.. Scotland is a prove of that..

noel157

26th June 2010, 14:44

They are good on gravel.. Scotland is a prove of that..

With a full championship turnout McRae may well have finished 6th or so.
Maybe Proton will just stick with APRC where opposition is less strong. Pity really, great looking car but no money (yet).

AndyRAC

26th June 2010, 15:16

How much are Proton actually putting in? MEM are doing a fantastic job on limited funds, I feel.

Sulland

2nd September 2010, 22:40

Even if both retired in Barum, it at least seem like the engine issue is fixed.

Good, for them so they can start focusing on other issues !
If someone like it as much as me, they should think of buying this one; http://paultan.org/2010/03/30/proton-satria-neo-r3-lotus-racing-145hp/

Mirek

4th September 2010, 15:27

Proton used new fuel in Barum. According to press materials of American VP Racing it gave some 4 Hp to Satria compared to previously used fuel.

Sulland

17th September 2010, 12:22

I'd love Panizzi to come back, but its unlikely. About as unlikely as Schumacher to return to F1 after 3 years out, hah!

Hmmm ;)

Even long term: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86737

animrallye

20th September 2010, 18:38

Even if both retired in Barum, it at least seem like the engine issue is fixed.
Good, for them so they can start focusing on other issues !
After testing two days in Italy, Panizzi said the car is not so bad, the big problem is the torque is in high RPM only !

Sulland

21st September 2010, 16:56

Ok but is that a Proton issue, or a S2000 generic issue ?

Has Panizzi driven S2000 before ?

Mirek

21st September 2010, 17:00

Yes, he drove Sanremo 08 in 207 and tested Fabia several times (for Skoda Motorsport and with Julien Maurin).

Xsara Fan

22nd September 2010, 06:29

Has Panizzi driven S2000 before ?

He was the main test-driver of Peugeot 207 S2000.

noel157

22nd September 2010, 09:15

Who was the first to drive the Proton? A rally in France, maybe Var I think? Car had mechanical or electrical problems and did not finish. Can't remember.

tolis

22nd September 2010, 09:55

Who was the first to drive the Proton? A rally in France, maybe Var I think? Car had mechanical or electrical problems and did not finish. Can't remember.
I think Bryan Bouffier in Rallye Antibes...

noel157

22nd September 2010, 11:15

I think Bryan Bouffier in Rallye Antibes...

Thanks Tolis, knew it was a South of France rally. It was Bouffier.

PLuto

22nd September 2010, 11:16

Yes, first one was Bryan Bouffier in Antibes 2008 - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7516

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_cfe6e9b4e673f2ed57aa8b0cd9e7099e.jpg

Sulland

27th September 2010, 08:00

Has Panizzi said anything about how he felt the Proton was, and where they need to improve it to be competitive ?

tolis

27th September 2010, 08:57

Has Panizzi said anything about how he felt the Proton was, and where they need to improve it to be competitive ?
http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/panizzi_convinced_of_protons_potential/

Tom206wrc

12th November 2010, 16:32

So Proton wants a full IRC 2011 commitment ??? Well...if they never finish a single one like this year... :s

13th November 2010, 16:48

So Proton wants a full IRC 2011 commitment ??? Well...if they never finish a single one like this year... :s

I'm still happy to see them having a go. They need to work on reliability for sure but regular points could be possible if they can run a clean rally (and they choose decent drivers)

noel157

13th November 2010, 17:16

I'm still happy to see them having a go. They need to work on reliability for sure but regular points could be possible if they can run a clean rally (and they choose decent drivers)

Any thoughts on which drivers RS and who of the drivers this season weren't up to the mark?

13th November 2010, 20:45

Any thoughts on which drivers RS and who of the drivers this season weren't up to the mark?

I didn't mean that this year's drivers weren't up to the mark, just that they will need to continue to choose good ones. I guess there is a good chance Alister will stay, would have thought Atkinson is less likely to stick around unless he can't find employment elsewhere.

Sulland

13th November 2010, 20:51

They need a development program until 31.12, and the most important thing - get reliability, reliability, reliability !!!

Barreis

13th November 2010, 21:00

They don't sell that cars and without money there's no development..

noel157

14th November 2010, 01:44

I didn't mean that this year's drivers weren't up to the mark, just that they will need to continue to choose good ones..

+1

Mirek

14th November 2010, 19:43

They need a development program until 31.12, and the most important thing - get reliability, reliability, reliability !!!

Why the date?

alleskids

14th November 2010, 20:45

From 1.1.2011 no S2000 atmo can be homologated, only 1,6Turbo cars remember :)

pucky54

14th November 2010, 21:07

From 1.1.2011 no S2000 atmo can be homologated, only 1,6Turbo cars remember :)

Sure, but you can homologate new parts for existing cars, can't you?

Mirek

14th November 2010, 21:19

Yes, of course. The only problem for Proton would appear in case they want to use completely different base car which isn't going to be the case anyway :)

Sulland

15th November 2010, 15:07

Ah, I thought that you could not update the existing cars at all, but it is only totally new S2000 NA cars that will not get homologations.

Then they can live for many tears to come and get updated as well - good news !

sal

25th November 2010, 14:22

Ben Mellors team boss Chris's son will be driving one of the cars on the Christmas Stages at Croft racing circuit on December 28th. This end of season event always gathers a good mixed entry and I will be there in the freezing and will post some pics up of the car!

ProRally

25th November 2010, 14:47

noel157

26th November 2010, 10:04

Motoring News is apparently reporting that Cronin was offered a programme for 2011 with MEM but did not have the budget available.

sal

26th November 2010, 10:33

Motoring News is apparently reporting that Cronin was offered a programme for 2011 with MEM but did not have the budget available.

Saw that too. A real shame that Keith looks like he will be on the sidelines for 2011 at least.

26th November 2010, 11:14

rsmith16

26th November 2010, 12:49

I didn't quite understand the story about Cronin; it says he is "not available" for the start of 2011. What's he doing, having his hair done??

It sounds as if Proton are looking for subsidised pay drivers...

I'm sure I read somewhere that due to work committments he couldn't commit to a full season...

noel157

6th December 2010, 00:13

Hopefully Mr Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir writes a large cheque to get some decent development and sort out the reliability urgently:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88580

Sulland

18th December 2010, 20:41

So at last Proton has budgeted with a few € for their best PR tool !

The word from the drivers, and the last driver to say is PG that says the powerband is too narrow, almost like a racingcar - on and off within a few hundred RPM.

Will MEM do the upgrade, and do they hold the know-how, or will they outsource this job ?

pucky54

19th December 2010, 13:18

There will be an engine update for the next test

Tom206wrc

19th December 2010, 15:48

There will be an engine update for the next test

They will put a Skoda engine ???? :bounce:

:D

Sulland

19th December 2010, 16:01

The smartest thing Proton has done was To call PG, keep him !

pucky54

19th December 2010, 16:44

BTW: What was Panizzi's decision about being the development driver for them?

24th December 2010, 08:54

The Satria Neo S2000 is going to be on the next series of popular motoring sitcom "Top Gear"

Loeb 05

26th December 2010, 11:35

The Satria Neo S2000 is going to be on the next series of popular motoring sitcom "Top Gear"

Do you know when this episode will be on TV ?

Livewireshock

26th December 2010, 13:49

The Satria Neo S2000 is going to be on the next series of popular motoring sitcom "Top Gear"

This has already appeared in Australia as part of the Australian version of Top Gear. Basically the Aussies and the Poms challenge each other in a series of contests in England. The Satria S2000 is part of a rally stage challenge with both sides driving the car & calling pacenotes. However it is done in more of a standard race style.

27th December 2010, 06:24

Do you know when this episode will be on TV ?

Don't know... I will try and let you know before it's on!

Rally Hokkaido

5th January 2011, 02:50

Some nice & interesting info, here. Including the bit that PG's Monte drive may not be a one-off ride.

http://www.aprc.tv/newsPage.php?Proton-launch-2011-Season-405

RICARDO75

5th January 2011, 03:59

The Renault sourced engine is now pushing out 305 hp, up from the previous 278 horses. :eek:

HaCo

5th January 2011, 07:12

The Renault sourced engine is now pushing out 305 hp, up from the previous 278 horses. :eek:

For how many stages and still on/off? I really hope this car becomes at least average to good.

5th January 2011, 11:24

The Renault sourced engine is now pushing out 305 hp, up from the previous 278 horses. :eek:

They might be better to sacrifice a bit of top end power for more driveability, but I am sure they know what they are doing!

I wonder what the latest Skoda is putting out now?....

The article linked to seems pretty positive though, the manufacturer are obviously right behind the programme now and they even have a couple of sponsors. Anyone know how much RM500k is?

bluuford

5th January 2011, 13:07

They might be better to sacrifice a bit of top end power for more driveability, but I am sure they know what they are doing!

I wonder what the latest Skoda is putting out now?....

The article linked to seems pretty positive though, the manufacturer are obviously right behind the programme now and they even have a couple of sponsors. Anyone know how much RM500k is?

Well, if they say RM, it sounds like Malaysian Ringgit. Its value is approximately 0.25 EUR=1Ringgit. I assume that 500k means 500 000RM, that means 125000 EUR. The whole sponsorship is then 250 000 EUR.

Mirek

5th January 2011, 17:55

The Renault sourced engine is now pushing out 305 hp, up from the previous 278 horses. :eek:

I can't believe that. But soon we'll see...

OldF

5th January 2011, 18:53

Have there been some changes to the rules? Would be interesting to know how Peugeot and Proton has done it (power from about 280 hp to 300 hp). It would be easier to understand if intake trumpets replaced the 64 mm restrictor.

Sulland

7th January 2011, 13:30

7th January 2011, 14:10

Is the engine mentioned here http://www.rallye-magazin.de/top/topnews/d16/d/2011/01/06/proton-mit-renault-power/index.html the same engine that the R3 Clio uses or have they taken an F3 engine and made into a rally engine, or is it newly developed by Renault Sport ?

I'm not sure exactly but I think the article is a bit misleading as the Proton has always used a Renault derived engine. So I think it is not a new engine as such but just a new spec one.

Mirek

7th January 2011, 23:56

Is the engine mentioned here http://www.rallye-magazin.de/top/topnews/d16/d/2011/01/06/proton-mit-renault-power/index.html the same engine that the R3 Clio uses or have they taken an F3 engine and made into a rally engine, or is it newly developed by Renault Sport ?

Basically it's really same engine in several derivates in Clio, Satria and Formula Renault but that applies for stock variants. Competition tunning is different.

FabiaFan

8th January 2011, 17:54

Basically it's really same engine in several derivates in Clio, Satria and Formula Renault but that applies for stock variants. Competition tunning is different.
Or one can say it is an evolution of the engine from the first S2000 car ever built - do you remember??? http://www.rallye-magazin.de/h/schlagzeilen/archiv/d15/d/2005/08/24/jean-joseph-testet-dacia-s2000/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BP2uAvxDj0
But already then it was a little bit slow, just as the Satria Neo still is... (0:15) :-DDD

mousti

8th January 2011, 18:21

Or one can say it is an evolution of the engine from the first S2000 car ever built - do you remember??? http://www.rallye-magazin.de/h/schlagzeilen/archiv/d15/d/2005/08/24/jean-joseph-testet-dacia-s2000/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BP2uAvxDj0
But already then it was a little bit slow, just as the Satria Neo still is... (0:15) :-DDD
The Dacia had an Clio S1600 engine in it if I remember well hence the great BangBang sound that the Clio mostly had.

FabiaFan

8th January 2011, 19:47

The Dacia had an Clio S1600 engine in it if I remember well hence the great BangBang sound that the Clio mostly had.
In fact, I don't remember the technical specs of this pioneer S2000 :-( Was it announced at all? Concerning the sound - yes, you're right! ;-) It would also explain the lacking power... But - I don't believe they would test it with a 1,6l motor simply from the Clio S1600, what sense would this make? The setup had to be different then... And the car doesn't accelerate THAT badly - you have to bear in mind that a S2000 car is much havier than a S1600.

Mirek

8th January 2011, 22:07

Now it is but it wasn't. Original minimum weight of S2000 was only 100 kg more than S1600 (but of course there were more power loses in 4WD drivetrain). Anyway I don't know how much S2000 the Dacia test car really was. Maybe someone here knows...

Sulland

14th January 2011, 09:19

Has Proton started to test the new engine, or is it just on paper yet ?

Micke_VOC

14th January 2011, 10:42

Has Proton started to test the new engine, or is it just on paper yet ?

The first test will be on tuesday on the shakedown according to PG´s homepage.

modri dirkac

14th January 2011, 11:03

The first test will be on tuesday on the shakedown according to PG´s homepage.

Ajej. And this is the engine that supposed to be reliable - with no tests? :rolleyes:

wwbroe

14th January 2011, 11:39

The first test will be on tuesday on the shakedown according to PG´s homepage.

What shakedown is that supposed to be, because there is no shakedown in Monte Carlo.

Munkvy

14th January 2011, 21:23

Ajej. And this is the engine that supposed to be reliable - with no tests? :rolleyes:
I have just been watching the Asia Pacific Rally Championship TV coverage and for the last round in China (in November last year) they mention that Proton changed to a new engine (which got delayed in customs and almost prevented them starting). I wonder if this was how they were testing the new engine? Run it in an event that has less publicity..?

End result was Proton cars came 2nd and 3rd in the rally and interestingly suffered none of the issues they had experienced earlier in the season (in earlier rounds they blew several engines with a variety of issues). Infact it was the best result of the APRC season for Proton and they were consistently ahead of the pace of the other teams, only reason they didn't win was due to having alot of punctures.

Mirek

14th January 2011, 22:18

They were constantly slower than non-APRC top runner like Mark Higgins or Patrik Sandell in fact.

RICARDO75

15th January 2011, 00:40

They were constantly slower than non-APRC top runner like Mark Higgins or Patrik Sandell in fact.

Results from China Rally 2010
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ft7TgGoxwak/TOhMLVHl0MI/AAAAAAAALnQ/3rXa1r-gSYQ/s1600/china.jpg

RICARDO75

15th January 2011, 00:43

They were constantly slower than non-APRC top runner like Mark Higgins or Patrik Sandell in fact.

Alister McRae finished in 5th, 4m27,4s behind Mark Higgins

Barreis

15th January 2011, 00:47

Bad car for the moment.. We'll see after Monte..

Micke_VOC

15th January 2011, 05:49

What shakedown is that supposed to be, because there is no shakedown in Monte Carlo.

i dont know , maybe some type of shakedown test for proton only..

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http://www.pgandersson.se/Ny/Nyheter_2011/Nyhet_110113_e.htm

Sulland

15th January 2011, 08:13

Any interviews with the Proton boys yet, to see what they say ?

Mirek

15th January 2011, 11:24

Alister McRae finished in 5th, 4m27,4s behind Mark Higgins

Yes but I commented stage times not affected but those punctures. You can't see that from final results ;)

Munkvy

16th January 2011, 01:10

TyPat107

16th January 2011, 09:17

Not a great sign that they are one of the few S2000 cars that are still being consistently beaten by Group N cars. However on some rounds they have shown potential with some stage times quicker than anything else. But certainly the consistency isn't there.

At the same time, wasn't proton the first S2000 to Win or almost win a WRC stage against WRC cars in Ireland?

vino_93

16th January 2011, 09:52

3rd and 8th time in Ireland before retired for day one ;) And around 10th position the second day.

Mirek

16th January 2011, 10:06

Yes, but that was in very difficult conditions. Even Gr.N drivers won stage in WRC few times in the history.

HaCo

16th January 2011, 12:50

3rd and 8th time in Ireland before retired for day one ;) And around 10th position the second day.

That was indeed very promising, but never saw this performance unfortunately :(

Tom206wrc

16th January 2011, 13:10

Any interviews with the Proton boys yet, to see what they say ?

What for ??? Anyway the drivers will never say "this is crap car" but "car has potential, we can hope something for Monte" :p :

RICARDO75

18th January 2011, 17:47

New Proton Satria Neo GR.N preparade by japanese CUSCO

http://paultan.org/2011/01/14/cusco-to-sell-proton-satria-neo-s2000-rally-car-in-japan/

FabiaFan

18th January 2011, 18:02

What for ??? Anyway the drivers will never say "this is crap car" but "car has potential, we can hope something for Monte" :p :

;-) absolutely right!

Sulland

20th January 2011, 14:17

Good for MEM to have PG for the rest of the IRC season !

Micke_VOC

20th January 2011, 20:37

Good for MEM to have PG for the rest of the IRC season !

Great news.. PG did a good job to develop the Suzuki Wrc.

Barreis

20th January 2011, 21:11

Bad car..

Sulland

20th January 2011, 22:51

Bad car..

Yes and no.
Yes, the car has a lot of small issues big enough to make it stop, and it is in need of an improved engine.
No, the car look splendid, and the chassis is good says most drivers.
I also like the fact that MEM is a privat team that has developed it, but with pocket change as budget. And thos is in my opinion the core of the problem. MEM need support from Proton, and a budget with one post for development, and one fpr running their campaigns in iRC and APRC.

The bad thing of having the early retirements in Monte was that the big brass was in
from malaysia, that Mellors wanted to show morw potential. But as far as I understand
he got promise of factory support anyway, which is good news.

i think they have two options:
1. If Renault is part of the conglomerate, pay them to build the engine.
2. Skip the 2000NA and go for the 1600T Super Production category, since 2000NA is
dying anyway.

The last option is for sure the best option long term, and if they are in this for the long term, that is what they should do in my opinion.

hantu

21st January 2011, 06:46

IRC in Asean ??

Meanwhile, Syed Zainal said that Proton were working with various authorities for Malaysia to host a leg of the highly popular Intercontinental Rally Championship (IRC) series.

“Proton’s involvement in the IRC and APRC (Asian Pacific Championships) has increased Malaysians’ interest in the rallying scene. It will be good if we are able to host an IRC rally, hopefully in the next three years.”
At present, all the 12 legs on the IRC calendar are hosted in Europe.

http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2011/1/21/sports/7841433&sec=sports

DonJippo

21st January 2011, 11:30

PG did a good job to develop the Suzuki Wrc.

Really? There was no development during the only season and prior that there were lot of other drivers doing testing so how did he develope it?

Barreis

21st January 2011, 16:45

Every rally car retires on first day..

Micke_VOC

21st January 2011, 23:43

Really? There was no development during the only season and prior that there were lot of other drivers doing testing so how did he develope it?

PG did great stage times both in Japan and Wales in the end of the season.. That means something + i know that PG did some develop on the car...

23rd January 2011, 17:43

I think the Proton is on Top Gear tonight.

alleskids

23rd January 2011, 18:23

Chris Atkinson will skip the IRC and do only the Asia Pacific? So Proton will have an European team, and an Asian team?

aykutbilir

24th January 2011, 10:18

Yes and no. Proton and MEM have one team. But they both show up at IRC and APRC.
They do APRC cos of Proton is an Asia-Pasific region company. And Alister McRae just do APRC cos of he lives at Australia. :)

Sulland

24th January 2011, 10:46

24th January 2011, 11:16

I think the Proton is on Top Gear tonight.

Sorry, got that wrong. My tv guide said it was but I think they were talking about the series as a whole...

24th January 2011, 11:20

But whatever they do, they need a couple of external firms to go through their car from a to z, to verify all systems and to come up with areas that need improvement.

It seems like MEM has looked themselves blind on the car. Sometimes you need other people to look at it with fresh eyes !

From the outside it looks like reliability on the tech/electrical components and engine drive-ability are the two first areas they should spend some money to have evaluated !

From the one clip I saw of the Proton from Monte the car did seem a bit more responsive out of a slow corner than normal...

I do wonder if they need to review their testing regime or something... they always say they complete days of testing with no problems and then two stages into an event they are all gone... It can't just be bad luck.

User

30th January 2011, 09:21

Sorry, got that wrong. My tv guide said it was but I think they were talking about the series as a whole...

This item will be shown tonight. :)

30th January 2011, 21:52

This item will be shown tonight. :)

Indeed it was. Some nice publicity for Proton there. Wonder who was really driving the GB car? :)

TheFlyingTuga

31st January 2011, 03:41

I just download the episode (because in Portugal we only have season 7) and I see two nice things:

1 - The girl in the blue scarf behind the tennist player :D

2 - The beautifull and soundfull Proton Satria!

One thing that come to my eyes... did the stig used the clutch to go up and down the gears? The Proton don't have a electronic clutch system???

RICARDO75

1st February 2011, 21:14

Here it is
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgtvy7_proton_auto#from=embed

noel157

13th February 2011, 23:53

Any news on who will be PG's team mate with Atko staying in APRC?

noel157

18th February 2011, 12:46

Any news on who will be PG's team mate with Atko staying in APRC?

No news yet or did I miss something?

PLuto

18th February 2011, 13:21

I think it is still lot of time :)

Tom206wrc

11th March 2011, 14:35

11th March 2011, 16:25

Hard to believe, but...Giandomenico Basso would have been happy with his recent test with PROTON, and would be ready to run an IRC campaign in that car :confused:

Welcome to the numerous drivers who won't reach the end of the rallies :mark:

I don't understand your comment when the alternative for Basso is probably nothing? There is a chance Proton will get the reliability right eventually!

Right now it is really hard to see the speed of the car because they are having so many problems. Ironically it was more reliable when Wilks drove it a couple of years ago, but I think PG's time on SS1 of Monte was not too bad...

Mirek

11th March 2011, 16:44

...PG's time on SS1 of Monte was not too bad...

At our spot, some 17 km from start, he had same time as Kopecký, some 10 seconds behind Hänninen and Sarrazin. But behind us it started to climb up a lot...

11th March 2011, 19:31

At our spot, some 17 km from start, he had same time as Kopecký, some 10 seconds behind Hänninen and Sarrazin. But behind us it started to climb up a lot...

Which pretty much echoes what everyone who has driven it had said - chassis good, engine not.

Sulland

28th March 2011, 22:48

Has anything more development happened to the new engine before Basso starts canary ?

29th March 2011, 19:19

Proton developments, including Reiger suspension: http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=9204

Barreis

30th March 2011, 14:05

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90336

4th April 2011, 05:51

New spec Proton seems to be a definite step forward; 1st and 3rd on the Malaysian Rally at the weekend: http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=9212

Barreis

4th April 2011, 11:54

modri dirkac

4th April 2011, 12:52

New spec Proton seems to be a definite step forward; 1st and 3rd on the Malaysian Rally at the weekend: http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=9212

I'm glad to hear that thay made a step forward. Step by step ... ;)

Barreis

4th April 2011, 13:16

It would be cool to see 1.6T version from them..

noel157

4th April 2011, 23:51

It certainly would be good to see a 1.6T version... :)

mm1

5th April 2011, 19:35

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90451

Barreis

5th April 2011, 19:44

At the 31 years of age finally first win.

Dug83

6th April 2011, 09:07

At the 31 years of age finally first win.

How many have you won?

Sulland

6th April 2011, 09:39

But we know nothing on the engine development; Who did it, improvement in numbers and so on ?

Mirek

6th April 2011, 10:23

Sulland, You would never find real engine data on forums. Teams don't want to share them with public and people who knows them usually don't write them on public either.

Barreis

6th April 2011, 11:45

How many have you won?

Didn't mean anything bad.

Sulland

6th April 2011, 12:48

Sulland, You would never find real engine data on forums. Teams don't want to share them with public and people who knows them usually don't write them on public either.

Ok, lets be a little less to the point, and more like a politician.... :)

Is it official who did the job for them ?
Is the new engine a major step towards the Fabia, Fiesta level for Proton ?

6th April 2011, 21:38

Is the new engine a major step towards the Fabia, Fiesta level for Proton ?

Providing they get a reliable run on Canarias, we should get an answer there where they will have to face the top opposition on a pure performance rally.

mousti

7th April 2011, 08:21

Providing they get a reliable run on Canarias, we should get an answer there where they will have to face the top opposition on a pure performance rally.

I would be already happy if they confirm their reliability :)

Sulland

16th April 2011, 16:35

[Madeira-Rally]

20th April 2011, 10:21

What is the engine history of the Proton engine ?

Have they switched engine base, or is it basically the same engine as from the start ?

Basso is not far off the leaders, and gravel PG is getting better on asfalt !

Well, I must say that in Canarias, Basso was 1 sec/km away from the leader... so.. it's a huge gap... At IRC top level, 1 sec/kmd is really yoo much, believe me!

20th April 2011, 12:00

]Well, I must say that in Canarias, Basso was 1 sec/km away from the leader... so.. it's a huge gap... At IRC top level, 1 sec/kmd is really yoo much, believe me!

Let's be positive, it is moving in the right direction. For me this was their best performance so far in IRC. Reliable, consistent and not so slow (ahead of Garde and not far off Magalhaes) How much was car and how much was driver is hard to say, but if they do some proper testing they should be able to unlock some more from the new suspension.

13th May 2011, 15:04

Good start for Proton on the Rally of Queensland: http://www.rallyresults.com.au/arc/2011/qld/showItineraryt.asp?paramVal1=1&paramVal2=&paramVal3=1

Sulland

23rd August 2011, 10:04

Is Proton still tuning the engine, or are they concentrating on 1600T ?

Sulland

13th December 2011, 19:06

Any news on the 2012 rallyplans of Proton?

Abarth

21st December 2011, 23:54

So program is ok. Will they do any upgrades to the car?

22nd December 2011, 19:55

It's good to see Proton continuing and with good drivers but I am not sure their move to sWRC is a good idea from any point of view. They had trouble finishing IRC events and WRC events are longer... Although you can still quite easily score podiums in sWRC using superally - maybe that's what swung it.

I don't think they will get as much publicity for finishing in lower positions in a subcategory of WRC though as they would have from competing in IRC rallies where they are driving for overall results.

pucky54

22nd December 2011, 20:18

darkstar

22nd December 2011, 21:00

anyhow, its nice to see pg having a drive. he was so, so crazy at ypres(and anywhere else), just flat out all the time. i think you cant squeeze out more of that car.

pucky54

22nd December 2011, 21:56

At Ypres, he was way too aggressive, overdriving the car. Was looking much better on Barum Rally

darkstar

22nd December 2011, 22:34

yes maybe, anyhow it looked awesome ;) that´s what matters to me most, when i´m live at a event.

Sulland

15th January 2012, 13:37

Has the proton tuning team now made it almost undrivable in their hunt for hp?
Who does their engine tuning?

Tom206wrc

21st January 2012, 13:53

Amazing that the Satria is leading the S2000 field at Monte-Carlo for now :eek:

Sulland

21st January 2012, 15:53

Yes, and with PG in a asphalt rally behind the wheel. But it looks like they have made it more reliable. Pity that Basso went out, he could have shown the potential of the Satria on asphalt better than PG. Looking forward to Sweden to see PG there.

21st January 2012, 16:27

They have obviously improved the car a lot but we should remember to that there is no competition to speak of on Monte.

Sweden could be good, as torque might not be so important there as top end power. Plus PG is always awesome there.

Sulland

21st January 2012, 20:13

mousti

21st January 2012, 20:41

Yes, u jinxed it ! U must be ashame of yourself!

:D

Seriously big pity for Proton and PG ! Was already liking PG and now even more that I'm a PG fan now :D

Tom206wrc

22nd January 2012, 10:27

At least the mechanical parts of the Proton will have lasted most of the event...before breaking ;)

Barreis

22nd January 2012, 18:26

It would be interested to see it in competition with 15 s2000 skodas and 207s.

22nd January 2012, 21:17

It would be interested to see it in competition with 15 s2000 skodas and 207s.

Exactly. If we put it in the Monte Carlo field of last year I think the results in terms of overall position would have been much the same.

However it is clear that the pace is a bit better and it lasted quite a long time with no problems too.

kolvas

23rd January 2012, 12:26

according some rumors it wasn´t a problem with the car, one of FIA :s technician made something wrong when they took a fuelexample, but it´s just a rumor

Barreis

23rd January 2012, 22:46

It was big fire under the bonet of the car. Saw that on Eurosport coverage.

mousti

24th January 2012, 11:45

And that means???

Plan9

31st January 2012, 08:19

Will Proton build another rally car if s2000 spec cars are gradually withdrawn from major competition?

bluuford

31st January 2012, 08:36

I heard rumors that in 2014 there will be new Satira on the market and they are thinking about building WR Car. But this is still veeery, veery rumor:-)

noel157

1st February 2012, 08:55

I heard rumors that in 2014 there will be new Satira on the market and they are thinking about building WR Car. But this is still veeery, veery rumor:-)

I mentioned that last year. Could be some truth in it..........

Tom206wrc

3rd February 2012, 14:12

Let's see what PG Andersson can do this week-end in Finnskog ;)

bt52b

3rd February 2012, 23:27

I heard rumors that in 2014 there will be new Satira on the market and they are thinking about building WR Car. But this is still veeery, veery rumor:-)

Slim chance. Malaysian govt' sold 42% of Proton and VW are believed to circling the remains again. One thing that may help is that they are trying to dump Lotus.
Proton (automobile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_Cars)

Tom206wrc

4th February 2012, 09:20

After SS2 Rally Finnskog, PG is 5th overall, 2nd of S2000s(about 15" behind Andreas Mikkelsen) ;)

Sulland

10th February 2012, 00:23

Cheering for PG in Sweden, after what happened to him in Monte!

Sulland

10th February 2012, 14:22

Impressed by the Proton Pace so far ! The upgrade has helped a lot it seems !!!

Sulland

12th February 2012, 20:47

Congratulations to PG and the Proton team on first victory in SWRC !

Plan9

29th January 2013, 18:55

Any more news on what these going guy? I can't wait to see them in Whangarei this year in May.

GigiGalliNo1

31st January 2013, 14:51

http://www.rallyqueensland.com.au/morenews/183-proton-forsakes-snowy-sweden-for-iroq-aprc

Sulland

7th December 2013, 12:51

Any news on Proton's plans for rally?
Will they go for R5?

GigiGalliNo1

7th December 2013, 14:32

Any news on Proton's plans for rally?
Will they go for R5?

Proton have ceased their Rallying program.

They are doing a local Indonesian/Asian touring championship...

Sulland

8th December 2013, 14:01

Too bad, since MEM could make them a good R5 based on experience from the S2000 project, maybe for 2015.

vino_93

4th April 2014, 19:15

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1531645_795574140472402_700276967_n.jpg

Carl Tundo new Proton S2000 ! Looks really nice :)
Alastair Cavenagh bought one too I think.

4th April 2014, 20:36

Can you explain more?

Is that an ex MEM car or what?

vino_93

5th April 2014, 18:30

Yes it's former official Proton, who did IRC 2011 with Andersson and WRC2 2012.
http://ewrc-results.com/carinfo.php?cid=23&car=936&t=Proton-Satria-Neo-S2000

Carl Tundo is a kenyan driver, who has a team with british Alastair Cavenagh too. It seems they have a second car ! First their goal will be to adapt the car to kenyan roads. They don't know exactly what to expect of it, but Tundo like to change from Mitsu vs Sub !

http://ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=1532&t=Carl-Tundo

http://ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=1627&t=Alastair-Cavenagh

Jarek Z

5th April 2014, 20:07

This livery looks quite extraordinary! Do you have more photos? I have never heard about those drivers and can"t find any.

vino_93

6th April 2014, 19:48

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.795573753805774.1073741884.166160540080435&type=1

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1503455_795574680472348_1090866432_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1507775_795574433805706_1244804271_n.jpg