2008 Rally New Zealand - official thread

[Maui J.]

Well since I saw Sebastian Loeb, Dani Sordo, and co-drivers walking along Auckland's Ponsonby Rd today I thought I'd better start this thread.

Website http://www.rallynz.org.nz/

Entry List http://www.rallynz.org.nz/images/stories/2008/Forms/2008%20rrnz%20entry%20list%20-%20seeded%20v1.pdf

Bring it on!

[ProRally]

Any news from the PWRC test ?

[Salist]

Well since I saw Sebastian Loeb, Dani Sordo, and co-drivers walking along Auckland's Ponsonby Rd today I thought I'd better start this thread.

Website http://www.rallynz.org.nz/

Entry List http://www.rallynz.org.nz/images/stories/2008/Forms/2008%20rrnz%20entry%20list%20-%20seeded%20v1.pdf

Bring it on!

Only 14 WRC

[COD]

Changes to the rally route, longest stage need to be cut to two different stages due to road damage and some stages still in threat. More at http://www.crash.net

[bluuford]

Only 14 WRC

Last year there was also only 14 WRC
2006 there was 11 WRC- s
2005 there was 15 WRC-s
2004 there was 14 WRC-s
2003 there was 21 WRC-s
2002 there was 18 WRC-s
2001 there was 13 WRC-s
2000 there was 14 WRC-s

So, this looks to be a norm in N-Z :-)
But you have Novikov there, So be careful before his passage :-)

[Buzz Lightyear]

parts of some stages washed away...
http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=101&id=2392&desc=Weather%20causes%20route%20changes

[A.F.F.]

And the weather prediction for the rally is ...?

[c4]

Patrik Sandell testing his hired Evo 9 for NZ
http://rallybuzz.stagetimes.com/patrik-sandell-testing-mitsubishi-new-zealand-2008/

[bluuford]

And the weather prediction for the rally is ...?

25th Aug 08, 10:44
Weather forecast for New Zealand :

Well, at the moment it looks like the low pressure area is giving up and the weather is improving day by day. Tomorrow there will be quite a huge possibility of rain but Wednesday, Thursday and Friday should be fine weather:-)
The stages should dry up a little because the maximum temperatures during the next days will be up to 15-16 degrees. Morning stages will be quite difficult because the temperature is only up to 5-6 degrees and with hard tires :-)
For Saturday it is still difficult to call but there is a possibility of rain and cold weather. Sunday looks to fine again. In the worst scenario it will be wet and 6 degrees of warmth on Saturday morning :-)

[cosmicpanda]

It is difficult to predict weather for Rally NZ because not only is it really close to the ocean the stages are fairly widely spread out. Raglan is more central to the rally than Hamilton is, if you're searching for weather information online, although on Saturday morning some stages are really closer to Auckland than Raglan.

It seems that it will be sunny on Friday... no guarantees though.

[bluuford]

It is difficult to predict weather for Rally NZ because not only is it really close to the ocean the stages are fairly widely spread out. Raglan is more central to the rally than Hamilton is, if you're searching for weather information online, although on Saturday morning some stages are really closer to Auckland than Raglan.

It seems that it will be sunny on Friday... no guarantees though.

Well, I am not searching for the online sites. Related to my work I have access to weather information that is not freely accessible online or is very difficult to search online. So, I try to relate my knowledge in meteorology and all models and weather maps that I can access. I think that I managed to be more precise about the weather on stages at least for Germany, because I also considered the locations of stages. I try to do the same for N-Z :-) But it is other side of the planet and I don't know how my knowledge about meteorology works there :-) but it is my hobby like I said :-)

[cosmicpanda]

Well, I am not searching for the online sites. Related to my work I have access to weather information that is not freely accessible online or is very difficult to search online. So, I try to relate my knowledge in meteorology and all models and weather maps that I can access. I think that I managed to be more precise about the weather on stages at least for Germany, because I also considered the locations of stages. I try to do the same for N-Z :-) But it is other side of the planet and I don't know how my knowledge about meteorology works there :-) but it is my hobby like I said :-)

Very interesting (and I'm not being sarcastic). What would you say the effect of an ocean nearby to the stages is? Would it tend to randomise the weather to some extent or do the opposite?

[pino]

Only 14 WRC

14 WRC or not, I love this rally, I love this country and one day I will be there too ;)

[cosmicpanda]

another thing: after watching WRC.com videos, can I please make a small rant:

It's not the Wanga coast! It's Whaanga coast, should be pronounced more like 'Fahng-a'. I don't know how people can be so happy to call it the "Wanga" coast. It sounds almost dirty that way. :p

[bluuford]

Very interesting (and I'm not being sarcastic). What would you say the effect of an ocean nearby to the stages is? Would it tend to randomise the weather to some extent or do the opposite?

Well, it is a little bit off topic but it is educating for everyone. And weather is very important in rallying anyway so, I will give you my view: In my view the ocean in case of Whaanga coast stage is like opposite. The temperature near the shoreline is similar to ocean and if it does not rain on ocean then it does not rain there as well. But inland is little bit different. For example, when clouds are coming from warmer sea to colder land (which might be the case in spring, winter and autumn), then there is huge possibility of rain, because dew point changes. At the same time on the mainland, after the midday after very wet period evaporation is higher than on ocean and uprising warmer air can cause local rain clouds because the same humidity rises to the higher and colder layer of the atmosphere and might form quite nice rainclouds:-) So, we might end up with the situation that it is dryer near the coast and more rain inland. Of course, small elevation changes can cause the same effect as uprising warm humid air. So, a little theory:-) If you are interested it in more detail then I can write you an e-mail :-) Otherwise I will just give my weather forecast one day before the next rally day. Then it should be very precise:-)

[A.F.F.]

25th Aug 08, 10:44
Weather forecast for New Zealand :

Well, at the moment it looks like the low pressure area is giving up and the weather is improving day by day. Tomorrow there will be quite a huge possibility of rain but Wednesday, Thursday and Friday should be fine weather:-)
The stages should dry up a little because the maximum temperatures during the next days will be up to 15-16 degrees. Morning stages will be quite difficult because the temperature is only up to 5-6 degrees and with hard tires :-)
For Saturday it is still difficult to call but there is a possibility of rain and cold weather. Sunday looks to fine again. In the worst scenario it will be wet and 6 degrees of warmth on Saturday morning :-)


Cheers bluuford, now the official forum weatherman :)

[COD]

Cheers bluuford, now the official forum weatherman :)


I suggest the title to be added under his name...

[KiwiRallyFan]

Here's a link to MetService New Zealand 7 day weather maps...

http://www.metservice.com/default/index.php?alias=rainfcst_7day

..and more detailed 3 day forecasts...

http://www.metservice.com/default/index.php?alias=farmrainoutlook

The weather looks like is should be fine for most the rally.... :)

[ITC55]

Hey guys
Just arrived in Auckland, renting a car and going down to Hamiton on Thursday for the weekend, any locals know where i can get tickets? i thought it said on the website that you could get them in Repco stores but now all it says is programmes....
Thanks in Advance, i can't wait for the weekend, didn't expect the weather to be this good, pretty warm in Auckland, way better than the past 2 months in Ireland anyway and its supposed to be summer there.

Ed

[cosmicpanda]

you can get tickets at the stages.

[coldrive]

Re the weather:

The marketing slogan for the rally this year is ``Land of the Long Dust Cloud'' so obviously the rain will go away and the stages are going to be dry and hard by Friday.

[wrc_flipper]

Event programme in NZ and UK times

Thursday 28 August Cars in action (UK BST)
Shakedown at Mystery Creek Event Centre 8.00am - 12.00noon (9:00:00am - 12:00pm 27/08/2008 - Wed)
Ceremonial Start, Hood St, Hamilton 6.30pm - 7:30 pm (7:30:00am 08:30pm 28/08/2008 - Thu)

Day 1 Friday 29 August - Pirongia/Waitomo
SS1 Fusion Pirongia West 1 9.18am (10:18:00 pm 28/08/2008 - Thu)
SS2 Castrol Waitomo 1 10.21am (11:21:00 pm 28/08/2008 - Thu)
SS3 Fusion Pirongia West 2 2.07pm (3:07:00 am 29/08/2008 - Fri)
SS4 Castrol Waitomo 2 3.10pm (4:10:00 am 29/08/2008 - Fri)
SS5 Mystery Creek Super Special 1 5.03pm (6:03:00 am 29/08/2008 - Fri)

Day 2 Saturday 30 August - Franklin /Te Akau
SS6 Ryco Port Waikato 9.08am (10:08:00 pm 29/08/2008 - Fri)
SS7 Possum 9.46am (10:46:00 pm 29/08/2008 - Fri)
SS8 CRC Franklin 10.24am (11:24:00 pm 29/08/2008 - Fri
SS9 Mystery Creek Super Special 2 12.37pm (1:37:00 am 30/08/2008 - Sat)
SS10 ACL Te Akau South 3.03pm (4:03:00 am 30/08/2008 - Sat)
SS11 Champion Batteries Te Akau North 3.46pm (4:46:00 am 30/08/2008 - Sat)

Day 3 Sunday 31 August - Raglan
SS12 BP Ultimate Te Hutewai 1 9.23am (10:23:00 pm 30/08/2008 - Sat)
SS13 Whaanga Coast 1 9.51am (10:51:00 pm 30/08/2008 - Sat)
SS14 BP Ultimate Te Hutewai 2 11.28am (12:28:00 am 31/08/2008 - Sun)
SS15 Whaanga Coast 2 11.56am (12:56:00 am 31/08/2008 - Sun
SS16 Mystery Creek Super Special 3 2.00pm (3:00:00 am 31/08/2008 - Sun)
Ceremonial Finish, Mystery Creek Events Centre 3.00pm (4:00:00 am 31/08/2008 - Sun)

SS2 Castrol Waitomo will now be SS2.1 and SS2.2 and SS4 Castrol Waitomo will now be SS4.1 and SS4.2. However the official results system will show consecutive stage numbering with the regular stage number in brackets

[Roy]

Fusion, BP, Castrol... I miss a Karcher and Abu Dhabi stage.

[Englandsfahrer]

another thing: after watching WRC.com videos, can I please make a small rant:

It's not the Wanga coast! It's Whaanga coast, should be pronounced more like 'Fahng-a'. I don't know how people can be so happy to call it the "Wanga" coast. It sounds almost dirty that way. :p

Whaanga Coast : Rally
Wangan Coastal Expressway : Streetracing

See, it's not that easy! I always get it wrong on youtube...

[AndyRAC]

I miss the Motu Road stage. Awesome!!!

[wrc_flipper]

World Rally Radio Times NZ & UK

Friday 9am - 10pm 28/08/2008 - Thu
Saturday 845am - 9:45pm 29/08/2008 - Fri
Sunday 9am - 10pm 30/08/2008 - Sat

[Simmi]

Fusion, BP, Castrol... I miss a Karcher and Abu Dhabi stage.

It reminds me of going to the RAC in the 90's when the mickey mouse stages all had individual sponsors.

So do they get a combined time for the Waitomo stages? I feel like I'm being a bit thick but I dont really get the explanation they gave. If you crash on 2.1 would you get a 5min SupeRally penalty for missing 2.2?

[jonkka]

So do they get a combined time for the Waitomo stages? I feel like I'm being a bit thick but I dont really get the explanation they gave. If you crash on 2.1 would you get a 5min SupeRally penalty for missing 2.2?

No, both parts are complete, independent stages. So, stage count has been increased by two.

[Simmi]

No, both parts are complete, independent stages. So, stage count has been increased by two.

Thanks jonkka. Looks like Castrol have ended up with double the amount of stages they paid to sponsor lol!

[KiwiRallyFan]

...any locals know where i can get tickets? i thought it said on the website that you could get them in Repco stores but now all it says is programmes....
You should also be able to get tickets at Mystery Creek during Shakedown (although you might have to pay to get into Shakedown!)

[raybak]

Wish I was going, a lot of my mates are over there already. Have to head to Perth instead for Targa West Recce.

Will be watching the results on the net when I can.

There'll be lots of Go ATKO flags out there.

Ray

[jparker]

There'll be lots of Go ATKO flags out there.

Ray
I hope everythihg works OK for him, his performance in Finland was promising. Good luck to him.

[grugsticles]

I hope everythihg works OK for him, his performance in Finland was promising. Good luck to him.
Atko has always been quick in NZ. The roads really suit him (IMO).
If Subaru pull something out of their magicians hat and give the car some extra speed then Atko is my tip for a win, otherwise a podium.

[StevieWonder]

just 4 info:

again some 2 austrian guys of our mikko-fanclub on the stages;
not hard to find - just look out for our well-known flag: http://www.hirvonen-fanclub.com/component/option,com_zoom/Itemid,33/page,view/catid,49/PageNo,5/key,36/hit,1/

if you meet them, just talk to them and say hi from me.

our programme so far this year:
monte
sweden
mexico
acropolis
turkex
finland
germany
new zealand
maybe wales following

more info on: http://www.hirvonen-fanclub.com
best regards

[turves]

Weather pending, will the Eye in the Sky be out this year?

[N]

Regarding the weather, check the forecast here http://www.metvuw.com/forecast/forecast.php?type=rain&region=nzni&noofdays=7
It's by far the best forecast that I've used while living in New Zealand.
It looks good, small chance of rain.

[pejda]

At the moment are the stages dry, just look at the pictures from the recce - http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=9378

[Torsen]

i hope the photographers are ready for this event... best sights in the world...

[dimviii]

@StevieWonder
i am the guy with the green t-shirt :p :
good rally for your two friends in nz.

ps which guy are you?

[Loose_Unit]

we did recce yesterday for the day 2 stages for possum bourne memorial rally. The stages are mostly dry, lot of loose gravel for the front runners. Will probably cut up a fair bit tho for those running at the back

[MartijnS]

Results of the shakedown:

http://www.chrissport.co.nz/results/2008/rnz/shakedown2.htm

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Results of the shakedown:

http://www.chrissport.co.nz/results/2008/rnz/shakedown2.htm

thanks you...

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks for the link :)

[Carlo]

http://www.chrissport.co.nz is by far the quickest and best way to get any rallysport results from NZ.

[CABAIO E'LONA]

http://www.chrissport.co.nz is by far the quickest and best way to get any rallysport results from NZ.


thanks for the information...

[pejda]

Pictures from shakedown: http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=324&fotograf=2&all=1

[cali]

Someone smart (Danel) in a another topc said that Duval is crap in gravel. I cannot wait to see Duval prove him wrong. Anyway good times in shakedown.

[I am evil Homer]

He did 7 runs through the stage - fastest time came on run #5. Mikko, Dani and Seb did 3 runs each, so i'd expect Duval to be fastest.

[cali]

He did 7 runs through the stage - fastest time came on run #5. Mikko, Dani and Seb did 3 runs each, so i'd expect Duval to be fastest.
Well he needs to get comfortable with the car. I think he hasn't driven Focus much on gravel.

[WRCfan]

It's that time of year, first time in about 15 years I am not there...although will be watching the times and highlights with interest!

[StevieWonder]

@StevieWonder
i am the guy with the green t-shirt :p :
good rally for your two friends in nz.

ps which guy are you?

I know, that it is you - I´m the guy with glasses and without hat - we have talked to you on schimatari stage, if you can remember.

maybe we can meet again next year at acropolis again - it was nice to meet you.

best regards from Austria

[Buzz Lightyear]

oh dear......

Subaru: We know we can win in NZ

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70101

[Mirek]

Maybe they have some nails in Citroen and Ford tyres? :D

[turves]

oh dear......

Subaru: We know we can win in NZ

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70101

I certainly won't be rushing off to the bookies... but I hope they do, especially Atko.

[Maui J.]

again some 2 austrian guys of our mikko-fanclub on the stages;
not hard to find - just look out for our well-known flag

Your two buddies were spotted trying to pick up some of our Rally Girls!!!

Your flag came in very handy at the opening ceremony. As each car drove up the start ramp, their national flag was carried in front of them by one of the rally girls. Some how the organisers had misplaced the Austrian flag, but luckily your flag was spotted in the crowd. It was used when it was Aigner's turn to drive up.

[Dingardo]

i have put some of my pics up at http://gallery.wrcfm.com/main.php?cmd=album&var1=RallyNZ+2008%2F

will be going to all 3 days, so ill be adding more pics as i go. got lots more to put up there still..

[StevieWonder]

Your two buddies were spotted trying to pick up some of our Rally Girls!!!

Your flag came in very handy at the opening ceremony. As each car drove up the start ramp, their national flag was carried in front of them by one of the rally girls. Some how the organisers had misplaced the Austrian flag, but luckily your flag was spotted in the crowd. It was used when it was Aigner's turn to drive up.


thanx a lot for this info - so I know that our guys have a very good time on the other end of the world.
Hopefully they also notice all the cars and drivers, and can escape from these wonderful rally girls ;-)

[MikeD]

Already tons of photos from the shake-down at Motorline.cc.

http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/index.php/article=146628

PS: Duval is running with the same colours and sponsors as he did in Monte Carlo.

PPS: Sorry to say it, but I just simply cannot express how ugly I think the new Subaru WRC is. I thought I would get used to it, but everytime I see it, I just shake my head at both the design and the livery of that car. Looks like some crappy Datsun from the 70'ies

[Lalo]

Great to see Francois back in gravel, it's been a while.. I just saw his spin at the shakedown's second run and it was quite a slow one. Hopefuly he'll do good at the stages. He got the best time on the test, but he did many runs before getting to grips with the car.

I'm looking forwar to see Subaru here. Both Petter and Chris have performed very good before (Solberg won in 2004 in a thrilling battle with Marcus and Markko). They have great thances here, not to mention the new car and their road possition tomorrow.

Hope Hirvonen can fight back Loeb and beat him here. Also, Jari-Matti has a good chance to be back on top after a dissapointing Deutschland rally.

Have a great time on the stages Dingardo, and thanks por the pics! Also thanks MikeD.

[Tom206wrc]

Pictures from shakedown: http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=324&fotograf=2&all=1



Funtastic the face of the guys "dancing" the Hakka :laugh: :D

[DonJippo]

Weather pending, will the Eye in the Sky be out this year?

From wrc.com


The ‘Live Eye in the Sky’ helicopter will be following the front running cars throughout Repco Rally New Zealand. You can watch it all LIVE from your computer every day from 10:00 - 16:00 (NZST)

[dimviii]

@StevieWonder

in 2009 no doubt we are going to meet again. :)

anybody know who was faster in pwrc?

edit i just find the 3 first from ewrc.cz
1. Arai/MacNeall (Subaru Impreza WRX STi) 2:39.5 min
2. Prokop/Tománek (Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX) 2:40.5 min (2:47.5 min – 1.průjezd, 2:40.5 – 2.průjezd)
3. Rauam/Kutt (Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX) 2:40.9 min

what about Aigner-Hanninen?

[Mirek]

Here You go for shake times ;)
http://www.chrissport.co.nz/results/2008/rnz/shakedown2.htm

[Mr Lopez]

can someone please tell me what time the first stage kicks off at, UK time

cheers

[SubaruNorway]

can someone please tell me what time the first stage kicks off at, UK time

cheers

10:18pm

[Mr Lopez]

thanks Mr Subaru - looks like a late night for me !

[SubaruNorway]

Yeah me too, work can go to hell tomorrow lol

[pettersolberg29]

Stage should have started. Splits anywhere?

[pettersolberg29]

Sorry - one hour ahead of myself!

[turves]

From wrc.com

Thanks DJ

[jacko]

PS: Duval is running with the same colours and sponsors as he did in Monte Carlo.


Yes, THE sponsor for Gigi Galli; Beta, is nowhere to find on the car..., indeed Structo has made the move. I think it has all to do with the nomination Duval in the official team the next 2 rounds. Duval should get the car normally also in Japan, let's hope Galli will be driving in the UK, Duval will be there for almost sure too with his privat car as we saw in Germany.

[KKS]

can someone please tell me what time the first stage kicks off at, UK time

cheers

2:18 AM London time

[DonJippo]

2:18 AM London time

Not quite...first stage in 7 minutes.

[DonJippo]

Yes, THE sponsor for Gigi Galli; Beta, is nowhere to find on the car..., indeed Structo has made the move. I think it has all to do with the nomination Duval in the official team the next 2 rounds. Duval should get the car normally also in Japan, let's hope Galli will be driving in the UK, Duval will be there for almost sure too with his privat car as we saw in Germany.

In Spain and Corsica Duval's car will have normal factory livery and JML's car has Structo stickers on.

[jonkka]

It's on...

[KKS]

Not quite...first stage in 7 minutes.

29/8/08 9:18:00 (http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=404&season=2008&rally_id=NZ) http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/rolleyes.gif

[Mr Lopez]

anyone know where we watch eye in the sky?

[MikeD]

Damn I love these night rallies. Got my rom, my cigarettes and the "bird" has gone to bed, so that i can enjoy some quality rally time alone :D

[jacko]

In Spain and Corsica Duval's car will have normal factory livery and JML's car has Structo stickers on.

About the livery Duval in both tarmac rounds, it's confirmed but JML's car also with Structo colors i didn't know...
Still there were other sponsor's on Duval's car in Germany and where is Beta as sponso now...
Hopefully JML will drive the Galli (Stobart) car and the privat Structo car will be driven by some other (belgium) tarmac driver in both next rounds, will be great...
Anyway, the rally has started :)

[Roy]

29/8/08 9:18:00 (http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=404&season=2008&rally_id=NZ) http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/rolleyes.gif

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=22

Its on but where can i watch eye of the sky?

[KKS]

anyone know where we watch eye in the sky?

at 10:00 local time at home wrc.com

[DonJippo]

29/8/08 9:18:00 (http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=404&season=2008&rally_id=NZ) http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/rolleyes.gif

Which is 10:18PM in London.

[jonkka]

Seb seems determined to open a lead that disregards any possible tactics...

[jonkka]

wrc.com calls this stage SS1 SS1 Pirongia West 1... :eek:

[dimviii]

thanks Mirek :)

[pettersolberg29]

Subaru's already a bit slow!

[Brother John]

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=22

Its on but where can i watch eye of the sky?

It will be every day from 10:00 - 16:00 (NZST)
http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=101&id=2432&desc=Watch%20Repco%20Rally%20New%20Zealand%20LIVE% 20on%20wrc.com

[Mr Lopez]

Seb seems determined to open a lead that disregards any possible tactics...

a lead of 0.6 seconds?!

[jonkka]

WRR is seeing Eye...

[KKS]

Which is 10:18PM in London.

oops, i calculate at wrong direction

[jonkka]

a lead of 0.6 seconds?!

Oopps... I'll take that back, Mikko is 0.8 faster suddenly...

[SubaruNorway]

Eye in the sky isen't supposed to start in another 30min yet

[DonJippo]

Subaru's already a bit slow!

Not much of an surprise, is it?

[Mr Lopez]

go mikko, awesome

[Roy]

It will be every day from 10:00 - 16:00 (NZST)
http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=101&id=2432&desc=Watch%20Repco%20Rally%20New%20Zealand%20LIVE% 20on%20wrc.com

Tnx. Saw it to late... It is late... :( Good time for Sordo so far. J-M of the pace. :!: Not any longer. I keep my mouth ;)

[KKS]

Ford start attack. Latvala and Mikko go faster

[jonkka]

Eye in the sky isen't supposed to start in another 30min yet

They are seeing some image, if not Eye perhaps from terrestial cameras then. Anyone from NZ?

[alexus]

Hey man :)

We find THIS:

Watch Repco Rally New Zealand LIVE on wrc.com
The ‘Live Eye in the Sky’ helicopter will be following the front running cars throughout Repco Rally New Zealand. You can watch it all LIVE from your computer every day from 10:00 - 16:00 (NZST)

Who know´s link from helicopter ???


http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=22

Its on but where can i watch eye of the sky?

[pettersolberg29]

Not much of an surprise, is it?

I dunno - they're not good, but I expected better on an event they are historically good at.

Early days - it'll be better come Sunday touch wood.

[Mr Lopez]

atkinson, thats embarrassing

[Mr Lopez]

loeb off on the last split

[pettersolberg29]

Petter as bad if not worse - wrong setup?

[jonkka]

Henning losing a lot...

[Roy]

Petter as bad if not worse - wrong setup?

Wrong CAR!!!

[Mr Lopez]

Latvale flying, henning obviously been off already, wilson 5 seconds down after 3 minutes of driving. quality

[pettersolberg29]

Great pace by Mikko and JML

[turves]

Loeb nearly rolled apparently, possible suspension damage after going over some big rocks

[pettersolberg29]

Does Petter have a puncture?

[pettersolberg29]

Loeb nearly rolled apparently, possible suspension damage after going over some big rocks

And still only 3 secs behind Mikko!

[jonkka]

wrc.com knows their mathematics:
1. M. HIRVONEN 17:09.3
2. S. LOEB 17:13.2 +3.8

[J4MIE]

How much time has Seb lost though?

[Brother John]

Does Petter have a puncture?

Now, he need a car! :D

[DonJippo]

Loeb nearly rolled apparently, possible suspension damage after going over some big rocks

You can drop the car one mile high to bare rocks and it won't break while he is in it ;)

[turves]

turbo problem for Henning

[Mr Lopez]

wilson will probably catch henning on the stage

[pettersolberg29]

Must have a problem - +27 is more than a poor Subaru would lose.

[A.F.F.]

You can drop the car one mile high to bare rocks and it won't break while he is in it ;)

"Merde, now I have a scratch" :p :

[turves]

How much time has Seb lost though?

Not much, so far, but it was at the end of the stage, so it depends if there is further damage

[Mr Lopez]

lets wait for petter's excuses !!

[MikeD]

Subaru is pathetic so far...

[MikeD]

Subaru is pathetic so far...

[DonJippo]

Now, he need a car! :D

Soon we will hear what's the problem this time...

[A.F.F.]

Jari-Matti is on the run again.

[Mr Lopez]

petter has lost the plot

[A.F.F.]

Wow... the lag is HUGE tonite :eek:

[DonJippo]

Jari-Matti is on the run again.

For how long... :dozey:

[jonkka]

WRR was watching the helo feed... Soon we will too...

[KKS]

wrc.com show color zebra at TV.... waiting

[DonJippo]

WRR was watching the helo feed... Soon we will too...

Got the colors already, no picture though... :dozey:

[pettersolberg29]

Mr Lopez - do you have a problem with Petter? You always seem to be 'dissing' him. Waiut until he says why he was slow - may have a problem, or it may just be poor pace, but let him say before attacking him.

[DonJippo]

Ok what the heck while I'm awake I might as well have a beer or two, anyone want to join me?

[A.F.F.]

Aigner had a moment :eek:

[J4MIE]

I'll join you DJ :D

[DonJippo]

Puncture for Andreas?

[Mr Lopez]

Mr Lopez - do you have a problem with Petter? You always seem to be 'dissing' him. Waiut until he says why he was slow - may have a problem, or it may just be poor pace, but let him say before attacking him.

no problem with him, actually I'm a fan of his. I'm probably as frustrated as he is about the performance of his car, but when you're outperformed by a team mate like Atkinson then you have to start to question more than the car

[jonkka]

Ok what the heck while I'm awake I might as well have a beer or two, anyone want to join me?

I do not lack the wish but never during rallies... except two weeks ago as it was so booooring...

[J4MIE]

I seriously think we will not see Petter with Subaru next year. I hope that he can get another drive, even a private one would give him a better drive I think :s He'd probably be happier :\

[Roy]

Mr Lopez - do you have a problem with Petter? You always seem to be 'dissing' him. Waiut until he says why he was slow - may have a problem, or it may just be poor pace, but let him say before attacking him.

No problerms for petter:
SOLBERG P. / MILLS P. (st. č. 5) "Bylo to hodně špatné." / "It was very bad."

http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/

[A.F.F.]

Puncture for Andreas?

Dunno know what he wants but I'll have that beer, cheers :)

[pettersolberg29]

no problem with him, actually I'm a fan of his. I'm probably as frustrated as he is about the performance of his car, but when you're outperformed by a team mate like Atkinson then you have to start to question more than the car


I'd agree up until the new car - however since the new car, Petter has outperformed Atko in every event, and I expect it to continue. I'll be surprised if Atko finishes above Petter by th end of this rally. Let's see!

[Mr Lopez]

does anyone know if aava has done this rally before? and how many times has wilson been in nz?

[dimviii]

Aigner looses a lot after the moment :(

[DonJippo]

I'll join you DJ :D

Cheers Jamie, I'm enjoying quality product from Czech dark Velkopopovicky :beer: :up: Wonder why they don't produce this good drivers though :p

[pettersolberg29]

Looking at the comments at stage end - looks like we could have an exciting rally with lots of retirements and possibly surprise winner?

[rp]

does anyone know if aava has done this rally before? and how many times has wilson been in nz?

second time for Aava and third for Wilson...

[Mr Lopez]

second time for Aava and third for Wilson...

thanks, good 1st stage for Wilson

[dimviii]

Petter at ewrc.cz

I'm simply not driving so fast today. This stage was very bad." :p :

[Finni]

What the ! Hänninen faster than almost all wrc-cars between split 4. and 5. This must be error or miracle. :)

[Brother John]

Ok what the heck while I'm awake I might as well have a beer or two, anyone want to join me?

I´l join you DJ. skol! :s mokin: :beer:

[A.F.F.]

Juho Hänninen will make a pretty good overall time too :)

Suzukis are amazingly fast again. :dozey:

[rp]

Not very good start for G-meister, but P-G faster than Petter...

[jonkka]

Juho Hänninen will make a pretty good overall time too :)

No, he won't. Some prob at final split

[DonJippo]

Wonder what happened to Hänninen he lost one minute between splits 5 & 6?

[A.F.F.]

Juho Hänninen will make a pretty good overall time too :)


Then again...... :dozey:

[A.F.F.]

Apparently Hänninen wants to make this Rally NZ as easy as the previous one :p :

How many times he rolled last year? Three at least :D

[Mr Lopez]

lots of action in PWRC! nutahara flying

[Finni]

It's interesting to notice that before his problem Hänninen was ahead of Gardemaister and not much away from P-G...

[Mirek]

Maybe he learned a lot from Kresta's performance on Barum last weekend. Pushing like hell but into hell...

[A.F.F.]

]Maybe he learned a lot from Kresta's performance on Barum last weekend. Pushing like hell but into hell...

Guess who Kresta learned it from? ;)

[Mirek]

LoL :D

[dimviii]

DJ i think that he had to pass Aigner ;)

[DonJippo]

DJ i think that he had to pass Aigner ;)

If you referring to Hänninen he did pass Aigner already before split2.

[jonkka]

Time for SS2 - and Eye

[FAlonso]

Can anybody confirm that Armindo has retired?

[MikeD]

Ok what the heck while I'm awake I might as well have a beer or two, anyone want to join me?

What are you drinking? Koff, Karhu (my guess), Lapin Kulta, Olvi, Karjala or perhaps a Nikolai?

[jonkka]

A BeckBack? What next... :rolleyes:

[Finni]

Time for SS2 - and Eye

any link?

[COVENANT]

where can i watch the eye in the sky
give me a link

[dimviii]

thats right DJ i didn t mention that :D
so he must have some kind of problem

[jonkka]

Any1 see any Eyes?

[KKS]

http://s-lon-01.wdip4u.net/gmuk-n.one-tv?request=1219960464 - Eye at Sky

[jonkka]

Thanks KKS!

[jonkka]

Cut back to Sordo's interview...

[KKS]

down stream?

[dimviii]

thanks KKS :)

[KKS]

Cut back to Sordo's interview...

at home wrc.com same :(

[MikeD]

Hmmm Sordo is quick....

[jonkka]

Yes, very quick...

[A.F.F.]

Sordo found a seventh gear :eek:

[jonkka]

Mikko missing a split...

[A.F.F.]

Latvala still on the run...

[Finni]

Is anyone seeing the eye?

[bluuford]

Is anyone seeing the eye?

Yes! from the mirror:-)

[jonkka]

Is anyone seeing the eye?

Alas, no... :(

[Madeira]

For any czech member:
what does it means- (Armindo Araújo)-Problémy s převodovkou
Thank you!

[dimviii]

not me :mad:

[MikeD]

Becks is borderline close to drop her panties everytime she interviews Mikko :o /

[DonJippo]

What are you drinking? Koff, Karhu (my guess), Lapin Kulta, Olvi, Karjala or perhaps a Nikolai?

Was drinking dark Czech beer :up: now switching to Sandels from Olvi :D

[A.F.F.]

Regulators....

They took my rhymes, they took my rolex
I look at my brothers damn what's next :D

[jonkka]

What sh*ty muzak...

[A.F.F.]

Becks is borderline close to drop her panties everytime she interviews Mikko :o /

:laugh:

[jonkka]

JML losing out a bit...

[MikeD]

Mikko "only" 1.4 sec faster. Is there a double road sweeping effect going on???

[John V]

For any czech member:
what does it means- (Armindo Araújo)-Problémy s převodovkou
Thank you!

Gearbox troubles :)

[KKS]

J-M mistake? at split5

[turves]

Does JML have a problem?

[FAlonso]

Can anybody confirm that Armindo has retired?


On WRR they said he had gearbox problems. Since he doesn't have a time credited on SS1 I think he may have ideed retire... ): Very sad if true. He had high hopes for this rally believing that the reliability was finally sorted. Not the case it seems. Huge thumbs down for Ralliart Italy.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

For any czech member:
what does it means- (Armindo Araújo)-Problémy s převodovkou
Thank you!

Gear Box problems... :s mokin:

[jonkka]

John V, výsledky doesn't show anything for SS2?

[J4MIE]

Well excitement over now, result is not in doubt once more. Hope Jari-Matti can keep some sort of speed up to hopefully challenge Duval :up:

Goodnight folks, this shows how much interest I have in rallying at the moment......... :(

[FST]

Someone ask Becks for the link......

She's watching the eye

[A.F.F.]

Well excitement over now, result is not in doubt once more. Hope Jari-Matti can keep some sort of speed up to hopefully challenge Duval :up:

Goodnight folks, this shows how much interest I have in rallying at the moment......... :(

You can't go Jamie. What if there's a riot here and moderators nowhere to see ??

[jonkka]

You can't go Jamie. What if there's a riot here and moderators nowhere to see ??

And we'll start one for sure if there aren't anyone to look after us zukkas...

[KKS]

Live streaming - update

Sorry, but we’re experiencing a few technical problems with our eye in the sky internet streaming from Rally New Zealand.

Rest assured we’re working flat out to resolve the problem. We’ll bring you an update soon.

The wrc.com team

:(

[jonkka]

Especially as we see no Eye...

[MikeD]

Duval is doing quite well (IMHO). Perhaps 6th place is a realistic target.

[PuddleJumper]

Well excitement over now, result is not in doubt once more. Hope Jari-Matti can keep some sort of speed up to hopefully challenge Duval :up:
I must be watching a different rally. :confused:

[John V]

John V, výsledky doesn't show anything for SS2?
We are working normally, maybe you not switched off PCWRC filter ? Only big problem I have - full fridge of beer and wine, but can't drink, as going to office on morning :(

[alexus]

http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?rz=838&filtr=

There are results after SS2... :)


John V, výsledky doesn't show anything for SS2?

[A.F.F.]

I must be watching a different rally. :confused:

Yeeaaahh. Basher to rescue :up:

[jonkka]

We are working normally, maybe you not switched off PCWRC filter ?

Silly me, that was the reason... Thanks...

[A.F.F.]

Has Hänninen retired?

[John V]

Silly me, that was the reason... Thanks...
No problem, sometimes happened to me as well ;)

[KKS]

I see "Eye" 2 sec and stream is down

[jonkka]

Has Hänninen retired?

He might be running out-of-order for some reason like attempting to fix technical prob...

[A.F.F.]

He might be running out-of-order for some reason like attempting to fix technical prob...

Ok... so typical NZ for him then :mark:

[noel157]

We are working normally, maybe you not switched off PCWRC filter ? Only big problem I have - full fridge of beer and wine, but can't drink, as going to office on morning :(

John, is there a spilt facility on Vysledky?

[PuddleJumper]

Nice one, turves! :D

[rp]

Oh ****! It seems that Juho Hänninen is not starting the SS 2, because there is no his name in the split times...

[turves]

Ahaaa, I'm famous at last... :laugh:

[John V]

John, is there a spilt facility on Vysledky?
We have no splits unfortunately. Not easy to manage it for us.

[J4MIE]

I was going to say that you can sort them out Jani, but Jonathan will enjoy spoiling your fun :D

But I have to say, if Seb has had problems and lost only five seconds then that's about the chance everyone else has had to win. He can cruise from now on.

I am starting to hope that he does win the champ for a 5th time to confirm him as the best (though we all know that anyway) :up:

[alexus]

Splits are not there, (splits : http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=409&season=2008&rally_id=NZ&stage=2 )

but statistics from all pilots in this rally are there:
http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/statistiky/?id=44



John, is there a spilt facility on Vysledky?

[bluuford]

Hänninen doesnt have any splits? or is he lost?

[KKS]

SS3 started

[noel157]

Splits are not there, (splits : http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=409&season=2008&rally_id=NZ&stage=2 )

but statistics from all pilots in this rally are there:
http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/statistiky/?id=44

Thanks Alex, have all the other screens on the site, many thanks, and keep up the good work John.

[A.F.F.]

Not the chocolatechip cookie again :down:

[Doon]

Where is Ken Block? No time for him on SS1

[turves]

Where is Ken Block? No time for him on SS1

According to WRR he stopped in SS1

[jonkka]

Hänninen doesnt have any splits? or is he lost?

No sign of him...

[PuddleJumper]

But I have to say, if Seb has had problems and lost only five seconds then that's about the chance everyone else has had to win. He can cruise from now on.
I don't think Séb will have it all his own way this weekend. He seems to be under pressure. Hopefully the Ford boys can keep it on all weekend.

[jonkka]

There is rally going on and WRR is all about cuisine... figures...

[noel157]

Not the chocolatechip cookie again :down:

This one is different, a BUTTER chocolate chip cookie.........

[John V]

Thanks Alex, have all the other screens on the site, many thanks, and keep up the good work John.
You can try also play with GRAF button, try to click on small circles in graph for example :)

[turves]

I'm hungry now...

[FST]

I don't think Séb will have it all his own way this weekend. He seems to be under pressure. Hopefully the Ford boys can keep it on all weekend.

Yes but he is cleaning the road for the cars behind.

Wait for the second pass ;)

[A.F.F.]

This one is different, a BUTTER chocolate chip cookie.........

Aaaah.... then it's definately worth to mention...

[bluuford]

hanninen appeared :-)

[A.F.F.]

hanninen appeared :-)

:bounce:

[jonkka]

hanninen appeared :-)

He's running very late and is going to get loads of road penalties for that...

[bluuford]

I think it is about 13 minutes late that means 2:10 road penalties

[jonkka]

Something like that, yes. Then again, in PWRC that's doable gap. Perhaps not to win but to score well...

[turves]

Right, I'm off to bed, night all.

[jonkka]

G'night Turv.

[A.F.F.]

Where's Wilson?


Oh, found him.

[Brother John]

Yes but he is cleaning the road for the cars behind.

Wait for the second pass ;)

I´m not waiting for that, I close my Eye at the sky. Goooodnight :s nore:

[jonkka]

Where's Wilson?
Does anyone care ?

Yes, he's taking points off from Garde & Suzuki...

[A.F.F.]

Ok, I'm off to bed aswell.

Good nite folks :wave:

[alexus]

Good night to all....Morning, I must go to work :)

[jonkka]

Everyone is disappearing... I'll stay to wait for all WRCars... and up again in couple of hours...