Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X gains FIA homologation

[dimviii]

Mitsubishi Motors Corporation submitted to the Federation Internationale de L'automobile (FIA) papers on the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X (chassis type CZ4A) for Group N Official homologation, receiving that recognition on August 1st 2008.
The FIA Group N Official homologation number is "N-5718."
http://www.ralliart.com/08topics/08004.html

[gloomyDAY]

Hell yes! Time to dominate.

2010 is a prime opportunity for Mitsubishi to come on back.

[Saabaru]

It's about time!

[JAM]

Who are the teams that are working on this new car at the moment?

- RBR
- Ralliart Italy
- Top Run
- ???

[HaCo]

Gassner in Germany tested the car in a rally last weekend...

[Carlo]

Who are the teams that are working on this new car at the moment?

- RBR
- Ralliart Italy
- Top Run
- ???


Ralliart NZ

[dimviii]

also the fumio nutahara team have already test and race an evo X.

@Carlo
any news about the nz evo X?

[raybak]

Ours is getting the cage done over the next few weeks by Ralliart in Melbourne.

Ray

[Torsen]

ok i'm really stupid... this doesn't mean that Mitsu is going to do WRC right? It means they'll continue with PWRC but with the newer model car?

[Saabaru]

ok i'm really stupid... this doesn't mean that Mitsu is going to do WRC right? It means they'll continue with PWRC but with the newer model car?
Just PWRC for now, but we can all be optimistic! They won't do anything more untill S2000+ is settled. :D

[dimviii]

finaly they released the homologation
http://www.ralliart.com/GRN/homologation/x.html

[gloomyDAY]

finaly they released the homologation
http://www.ralliart.com/GRN/homologation/x.htmlSweet.

How about some pictures? :)
Damn it people, post!

[Rally Hokkaido]

Will some pix from the Rally Hokkaido service park calm you down?
Scroll down this thread ↓



http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums//showthread.php?t=128041&referrerid=72600

[Saabaru]

I hope the next WRC car looks like this. :)
http://i4.tinypic.com/21ozji8.jpg

[Saabaru]

Here is another pic I found.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_0KfvosXLxdI/SBzQolt3rvI/AAAAAAAABAY/pTZCpL63JxA/P1010670.jpg

[Saabaru]

Also, does anyone care to translate this? http://www.wrc.lt/news.php?readmore=1101

[paxtech]

More Lancer Evo X Grp N pix:

http://paxtech.blogspot.com/2008/08/k-taguchis-group-n-mitsubishi-lancer.html
http://paxtech.blogspot.com/2008/08/brrs-mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-x.html
http://paxtech.blogspot.com/2008/08/fia-awards-official-group-n.html

[dimviii]

parts list
http://www.ralliart.com/08topics/img/evo_x_list.pdf

[gloomyDAY]

Nice. Thanks for the posts everyone!

I really want a Japanese company to buoy to the top.
*fingers crossed*

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[RSe]

Also, does anyone care to translate this? http://www.wrc.lt/news.php?readmore=1101

It says just that the car prepared by TopRun was tested by Italian driver.

[gloomyDAY]

This new Mitsubishi just looks nimble and powerful.

Group N is very promising with the IX, imagine the X!
You heard it here first: the Evo X is the comeback kid.

[Mirek]

With 100 kg more, it is an elephant kid...

[gloomyDAY]

]With 100 kg more, it is an elephant kid...Isn't that for the standard car? I'm sure weight reduction will make it much lighter on-stage.

[Mirek]

Our Japanese friend wrote in Rally Hokaido thread that the car actualy weights a hundred kilos more than Evo 9. He was talking about official Nutahara's car tested in Japan.

By the way when I look into homologation, the rollcage seems to be too flimsy to me...

[urabus-denoS2000]

Here are some photos from Rally Ajdovščina with pics of Gassners Evo X
http://www.superspecial.si/index.php/Rally-Primorje-Ajdovščina-2008.html

This was the european premier of the car,although this Evo X has standard gearbox

[dimviii]

100 kg is the normal cars heavier,but maybe the gr.N ones are not so more.
if you look at homologation you can see plenty of metal pieces they allow to took away.
let s wait to see at the scales the first ones.
in cz any team they work on evo X?

[Mirek]

Don't forget that Evo 9 has special lightened bodywork (RS - non homologated for public traffic) which Evo X doesn't have (I think). Also Evo 9 has special suspension parts but Evo 10 uses much more parts from standard passenger Lancer. Evo X is also 40 mm wider and a bit higher with the same lenght and that itself means some kilos more as well.

About Evo X in Cz... I don't know about any team building Evo X for rallying. I know that Milan Liška and Karel Trojan have Evo X in road versions, that's all.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I see that Mirek is a big anti-Evo X (just kidding) ;) ;) ;)

Despite all of that they still say that the Evo X is a lot faster than the Evo IX

[Mirek]

You'll be surprised but I love Evo X look, but I don't belive the car is fast until I see the results (also Nutara's Japanese results are not that good). Subaru also claimed how much faster the N14 is than N12 and as we know, it was just a rubbish advertiment...

[dimviii]

thats right Mirek the homologation is based to gsr models for left hand drive cars,as the rs version with left steering have not released yet.
only right hand drive car is released in rs version.
rs edition chassis are lighter also,so maybe we expect to be 60-70 ?kg heavier than evo 9.
about the syspension parts lighter in evo 9 is just the rear down bars they are aluminium instead of steel ones at evo X.But this is a normal spare part is used in normal evo 9,it is forbidden to change syspension parts in gr.N except shocks.

[Mirek]

ok, lets wait for some real results ;)

[urabus-denoS2000]

BRR Evo X
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/om/galerien/2008/brr-mitsubishi-evo/index.html?tx_gooffotoboek_pi1%5Bfid%5D=1&tx_gooffotoboek_pi1%5Bfunc%5D=thumb&cHash=71c154361e

[Mirek]

One another thing... In homologation there are strange gear ratios for first and second gear 36/12=3 and 26/13=2. Why inteeger?

[HaCo]

From San Remo thread:


Paolo Andreucci with evo X in san remo :eek:

I thought I read somewhere on a news site that Jasper VdH will drive an Evo X next weekend in the Hellendoorn Rally. But I'm not sure if it was Hellendoorn.
Correction: It's the rallysprint of Amsterdam where Van Den Heuvel will drive a brand new Evo X, that is next weekend. :)
http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blognl/?p=1357

[ProRally]

]
By the way when I look into homologation, the rollcage seems to be too flimsy to me...

Custom Cage offer a nice lightweight T45 rollcage for Evo X now....

[Koppomsbo]

This weekend Swedish journalist where able to test the first to Evo X on swedish soil on Kinnekulle ring.

[ST205GT4]

X RS didn't fare to well at Targa West this weekend. It was 20mins off the front running R35 GTR by the second last stage of the rally, then retired from clutch failure. Too many launches I guess.

I'm not sure how much development it had. Ray might be able to shed some light on it as I believe it was one of Alan Heaphy's TMR built cars.

Link to results.

http://www.targawest.com.au/RESULTS/LiveResults2008/tabid/92/Default.aspx

2nd last stage when the car was still running.

Hope yours is much quicker Ray!

[OldF]

]One another thing... In homologation there are strange gear ratios for first and second gear 36/12=3 and 26/13=2. Why inteeger?

Maybe the ratios are just a coincidence. Evo 9 had the same ratios for 1st and 2nd gear. Subaru has a gear ratio of 3,333 for first gear and a gear ratio of 2,385 for the second gear. This means for Subaru less speed at similar revs compared to the Mitsu.

I also noticed that the diameter of the intake valves of the Evo X is 1 mm bigger but I don’t know does it help to get more power from the engine because of the 32 mm restrictor.

[Mirek]

No, I actualy meant that inteeger in gear ratio makes that still the same teeths are in touch compared to some number like 2,315 etc.

[OldF]

I’m not quite sure if I understand what you mean. Do you mean by inteeger (integer) a whole number like 1, 2, etc. If for example the second gear had gear teeth ratios 26 / 12 the ratio would be 2,167.

[Mirek]

Yes, exactly. I meant whole numbers. When You have gear ratio 2. The same teeth are in touch after every one turn of bigger and two turns of smaller gear. But when it is for example 2,1, You need 105 turns of smaller gear and 50 of bigger gear for the same (in situation of big number of teeth, othervise it would be more often).

[m.lowe]

Does anyone know where I can find pictures of the rollcage as I have some Evo X models to make and want to get it correct
Thanks

This was my first E10 model about 4 months ago with a modified WRC Lancer cage fitted
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2828/evoxadpn1fn2.png

[Mirek]

There is rollcage in homologation papers:
http://www.ralliart.com/GRN/

[m.lowe]

Found pics on custom cages site now

[raybak]

X RS didn't fare to well at Targa West this weekend. It was 20mins off the front running R35 GTR by the second last stage of the rally, then retired from clutch failure. Too many launches I guess.

I'm not sure how much development it had. Ray might be able to shed some light on it as I believe it was one of Alan Heaphy's TMR built cars.

Link to results.

http://www.targawest.com.au/RESULTS/LiveResults2008/tabid/92/Default.aspx

2nd last stage when the car was still running.

Hope yours is much quicker Ray!

The car that was run at Targa West was hastily put together with a bolt in cage and no development. Basically a road car, although it had no ABS. The driver had never competed in a 4wd car before, coming from a classic Porsche. He spent most of his time coming to terms with 4wd, but he did say that the car was a bit of a rocket, but he wasn't prepared to push it until he had more seat time. The car is going back to Heaphy to be fully finished.

Our car will be a rocket, the cage will be started next week, the suspension has been designed and is in the process of being made. We are looking at about 380hp to start with, this means we can run the standard diffs, if go any more power we will have to change the diffs.

One interesting point about the X versus the 9 is that the X without a cage is as stiff as the 9 with a cage.

I will do a full build report once the car is finished.

Cheers

Ray

[ST205GT4]

I'll watch the progress with interest. Are you building a gravel or tarmac car?

[raybak]

I'll watch the progress with interest. Are you building a gravel or tarmac car?

It's a tarmac car, the Evo 6.5 is for gravel now.

Ray

[Helstar]

We are looking at about 380hp to start with, this means we can run the standard diffs, if go any more power we will have to change the diffs.
Are you going to change the engine to have 380hp or Evo X has already that power (impossible...) ?

[ST205GT4]

Not that hard to get 380hp at the fly with any of the late Evos. My old Evo IX street car ran 280hp at the wheels (in the region of 370hp at the fly) with a 3" exhaust and a remap on 98RON fuel.

The Evo IX RS that won Targa Tasmania earlier this year has been quoted as having over 400hp running 102RON. That's with no intake changes, no engine mods apart from a different head gasket and an exhaust which can have been no more than 6% larger in diameter than the OEM one. So the majority of the power came from better fuel and more aggressive engine mapping via the Motec the car was running.

From what seems to be coming out of the US, it appears the 4B11 can be tweaked to produce power even easier than the 4G63. Only problem is, it sits inside a car that whilst stiffer, also weighs 100kg more, even in RS form.

[OldF]

It’s not hard to get even from an Evo9. The EvoX has intake valves which diameter is 1 mm bigger than Evo9’s valves, so that also can help to get even more power from the EvoX.

Translated site:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turbotec.com%2Fetusiv u%2Fmitsubishi%2Findex.html&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&sl=fi&tl=en

Stranded gate = waste gate
Pipe Down RN = Downpipe grp N
Stage-3 deployment = Stage 3 assembling

Stage 1 = 243 kW = 330 hp
Stage 2 = 270 kW = 367 hp
Stage 3 = 300 kW = 408 hp

Link to a dynograph (as you can see from the web site that stage 1 & 2 have nowadays little more power and torque):
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii284/OkdF/MitsubishiEvo9Stage1_2.jpg


Original site in Finnish:
http://www.turbotec.com/etusivu/mitsubishi/index.html

[urabus-denoS2000]

Maybe a stupid qouestion BUT...
Today I saw a test of the Evo X and I found out that it has flappy paddle gearbox as standard (it was the MR version however).
What does that mean for Group N???

[Mirek]

Nothing. That double-clutch gearbox with sequential shifting is not allowed. Group N car continues with dog-box.

[urabus-denoS2000]

]Nothing. That double-clutch gearbox with sequential shifting is not allowed. Group N car continues with dog-box.

Thanks ;) ;) ;)

[ST205GT4]

That flappy paddle gearbox is going to be the source of a lot of revenue for Mitsubishi over the next few years I think. Plenty of young kids with lots of money and no sense will try to run too much power through them and end up with expensive broken gearboxes.

[WRC1]

here you can find some new pictures of the BRR EvoX

http://www.rallyepics.at/bilder/rallye2008/29evoxtest/


Raimund Baumschlager will drive a local rallye on saturday with this car as a zero car! he was very satisfied with the performance of the car at the test, especially the suspension (sachs) is very good he admitted

reg

wrc1

[urabus-denoS2000]

Videos from BRR testing?

[Mirek]

I like the car but I'm afraid of Impreza-like fate...

[WRC1]

Videos from BRR testing?

yep, here


http://www.ir7.at/fotosevox0908.html

reg

wrc1

[WRC1]

Videos from BRR testing?

yes!

here:


http://www.ir7.at/fotosevox0908.html

reg

wrc1

[Mirek]

Why was the car without ALS? Did it have standard engine?

[WRC1]

]Why was the car without ALS? Did it have standard engine?

yes mirek, the "race engine" is in luxenburg by lehmann

reg

wrc1

[urabus-denoS2000]

Thanks WRC1
That explains why the car has no sound

[ProRally]

yes mirek, the "race engine" is in luxenburg by lehmann

reg

wrc1

Just to clearify, Lehmann is in Liechtenstein not Luxemburg....

[WRC1]

Just to clearify, Lehmann is in Liechtenstein not Luxemburg....

sorry! my fault!

reg

wrc1

[dimviii]

thanks WRC1 for the video-photos!
keep us informed. :D

[Mirek]

It seems that Evo X may not follow Impreza N14's fate. This weekend Herman Gassner and Jesper Van den Heuvel used Evo X. Both still without racing ECU and ALS.

Gassner was second in Slovenian Rally Postojnska Jama (European Cup Central) and Van den Heuvel was fourth in Veenhuizen Groep Nederland Rally. He was first in N4 (2 modern WRC and Evo 8 gr.A infront of him) and secured his gr.N title (second overal behind Wevers in Dutch champioship).

[dimviii]

Mirek can you translate this?....please! :D
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=9733

[Mirek]

Gassner said the car had great engine, even with standard electronics better torque and rpm range than Evo IX. He said the suspension is also better, especialy traction.

And the rest is about Czech gentleman driver Milan Liška who wants to race with Evo X until the end of the year (maybe on Prague rallysprint in december).

[dimviii]

thanks Mirek!
any news for the evo X from our Dutch mates?

[jonas_mcrae]

yep, here


http://www.ir7.at/fotosevox0908.html

reg

wrc1

well at least its a little bit louder than the evo Ix, thats a plus! haha still S2000 sound is way better (specially fabia!!)

[Mirek]

Jonas: That car on the movie has standard engine without restrictor. Standard Evo uses up to 7500 rpm. Gr. N with restrictor shifts up much in much lower rpm.