[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

[Bartolbia84]

Edoardo Bresolin should run 3-4 rounds of the World Rally Championship, to be decided if on a Ford Fiesta WRC or RRC version.

Anze Ukrainian Tamrazov could be at the start of some races, including the Italia-Sardegna.

[Bartolbia84]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/164426_531833490173364_2089919237_n.jpg

[Fly]

Some news from Hayden Paddon

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[Kielder]

The Argentinian website Rallynoticias is reporting that Hyundai has hired Kris Meeke. It's a very reliable source. Let's wait for the official confirmation. :)

[Plan9]

Interesting to see how Kris drives after 2 years away from the main game. I will look forward to seeing him again if this proves to be true.

[bluuford]

The Argentinian website Rallynoticias is reporting that Hyundai has hired Kris Meeke. It's a very reliable source. Let's wait for the official confirmation. :)

Unofficial rumors are telling that this rumor is not true.

[Miika]

Indeed let´s just wait.


Been in touch with @krismeeke and sadly no truth in the rumours linking him with Hyundai - yet!!!
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[noel157]

Unofficial rumors are telling that this unofficial rumor is not true.

Fixed it for ya. :)

[Kielder]

It was known that Duval would be on Rally Wallonie to prepare the Rally Deutschland. Now it was revealed that he'll drive a Mini WRC Spec B (of Belgian team "First").

DH.be - Duval au Rallye de Wallonie en Mini WRC « pour préparer l’Allemagne » (http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/article/428013/duval-au-rallye-de-wallonie-en-mini-wrc-pour-preparer-l-allemagne.html)

[Xsara Fan]

Evgeny Novikov, Markko Martin and Patrik Flodin (and 40 other crews) will take part in 'Rally Masters Show 2013' in Russia. Here`s first info about this event: Motorsport stars in Moscow! | Rally Master Show (http://rallyshow.ru/papka-s-novostyami-2013-en/autosport-stars-in-moscow-en.html)
Event will start in April, 20.

[dimviii]

Evgeny Novikov, Markko Martin and Patrik Flodin (and 40 other crews) will take part in 'Rally Masters Show 2013' in Russia. Here`s first info about this event: Motorsport stars in Moscow! | Rally Master Show (http://rallyshow.ru/papka-s-novostyami-2013-en/autosport-stars-in-moscow-en.html)
Event will start in April, 20.

which car/s will they run?

[User]

It was known that Duval would be on Rally Wallonie to prepare the Rally Deutschland. Now it was revealed that he'll drive a Mini WRC Spec B (of Belgian team "First").

DH.be - Duval au Rallye de Wallonie en Mini WRC « pour préparer l’Allemagne » (http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/article/428013/duval-au-rallye-de-wallonie-en-mini-wrc-pour-preparer-l-allemagne.html)

Awesome news :D Looks like Duval is following Matton's advice

[Chissy555]

Ott Tanak :)

[MartinMK]

Ott Tanak :)

???

[Leon]

Any further outings for Juho Hänninen this year?

[Barreis]

No doubt.
Ogier believes Citroen is missing Loeb after poor Rally Mexico - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105982)

[Rallyper]

No doubt.
Ogier believes Citroen is missing Loeb after poor Rally Mexico - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105982)

For sure they do. Why shouldn´t they?

But they can´t stop develop the car because of that fact. They have to continue. Today Mikko and dani have a less good car than VW.

[Doon]

For sure they do. Why shouldn´t they?

But they can´t stop develop the car because of that fact. They have to continue. Today Mikko and dani have a less good car than VW.

....and the two drivers aren't as quick!

[Mirek]

For sure they do. Why shouldn´t they?

But they can´t stop develop the car because of that fact. They have to continue. Today Mikko and dani have a less good car than VW.

How do You know?

[Barreis]

For sure they do. Why shouldn´t they?

But they can´t stop develop the car because of that fact. They have to continue. Today Mikko and dani have a less good car than VW.

Well, they don't have to be champs for 15 seasons in the row.

[rallyfun]

Apparently Kubica will drive with Lotos, not sure if LRT.

[Rallyper]

How do You know?

From many different indications, giving the fact Ogier gained seconds even when others had "perfect runs". I don´t think Mikko is that slower...

[Mirek]

Still it's only Your opinion. Fact is that there is no evidence to support the claim. Of course it might be truth but the opposite is also possible like the past often showed us. Always when someone was ruling people used to say he had better machinery but quite often it was nothing but a popular myth based on non-realistic hopes in own favorite driver capabilities.

[mousti]

Ogier didn't compete for a year against WRC stars in a year Ogier can be developed as a driver a lot and now we see the results of it. That could be it too.

[tfp]

Is it true Duval may be competing in Germany? I hope so, it's nice to see old faces return like Francois and Atko!

[noel157]

Is it true Duval may be competing in Germany? I hope so, it's nice to see old faces return like Francois and Atko!

That's the plan.

[Kielder]

http://www.velvetmotion.com/firstmotorsport/uploads/images/5140a64fd334d_0.jpg

[Bartek]

Stupid question but i'm not good in regulations, can Kościuszko without problems change car for example for DS3 WRC? Or he can change only between teams who have Mini WRC?

[Barreis]

Already.
Latvala says he is prepared already to play supporting role to Ogier - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105996)

[Kielder]

Already.
Latvala says he is prepared already to play supporting role to Ogier - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105996)

Yep, third in a row. This time he didn't wait until the summer to reveal what is obvious. This time his help isn't needed.

Latvala to help Hirvonen's title push - 30 Jun 11 (http://wrc.com/news/latvala-to-help-hirvonens-title-push/?fid=14964)
Latvala to help Solberg's title push - 08 Jul 12 (http://www.wrc.com/news/latvala-to-help-solbergs-title-push/?fid=17026)

[bjalverud]

....and the two drivers aren't as quick!


What about Loeb in Sweden, never seen him so perfect, but the gap there has never been so huge..

[Kielder]

Finally, Kubica will do 11 international events this season: 7 WRC (Portugal, Acropolis, Sardegna, Finland, Germany, Alsace, Catalunya) & 4 ERC (Canary Islands, Açores, Corse, Poland).

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/744480914.jpg?key=960720&Expires=1363263977&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=swUPH1tCbYxiX~DxybygbMBlQ~SXnQcgGM~N5BFL fiq~3gC8LC9mYdy9rbiiSzrnDRefAc5kpYeTHS86~uwtSb4Mj6 WRq~viOb7Kh2Fhrvzz9IQQ~fE~AzMLMcExwce-DYFaDmGVJUNfXXuGRhinEuxqN32NHLGrAZBI0Ff-5dc_

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9ZzA64bs8Co

[pantealex]

Stupid question but i'm not good in regulations, can Kościuszko without problems change car for example for DS3 WRC? Or he can change only between teams who have Mini WRC?

Driver: Kosciuszko can drive what ever he wants, but...

Team: "Lotos Team WRC" must enter all 13 rounds with MINI

= Someone must drive "Lotos Team WRC" entered MINI in every round 2013

[dimviii]

Mads Ostberg to attempt world record jump in World Rally Car - Grapevine - WRC - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/106017)

[peter_85]

Driver: Kosciuszko can drive what ever he wants, but...

Team: "Lotos Team WRC" must enter all 13 rounds with MINI

= Someone must drive "Lotos Team WRC" entered MINI in every round 2013

Are You sure? I was thinking that non-factory teams must drive at minimum 7 rounds.

[Rallyper]

Still it's only Your opinion. Fact is that there is no evidence to support the claim. Of course it might be truth but the opposite is also possible like the past often showed us. Always when someone was ruling people used to say he had better machinery but quite often it was nothing but a popular myth based on non-realistic hopes in own favorite driver capabilities.

I guess most of the talking here is based on opinions, isn´t it? Evidence and first hand information is for a very few people, which I hope are amongst this forums members as well.
Discussing tenth of seconds here and there depending on which suspension or what engine management or in what phase of development a certain car is, I should rather say it´s the small changes that makes the fastest car. Obviously VW is in the pace right now.

[Hazza555)]

http://tvnz.co.nz/motorsport-news/paddon-s-career-hits-funding-road-block-5367127 (http://tvnz.co.nz/motorsport-news/paddon-s-career-hits-funding-road-block-5367127Article)Article from the local news broadcaster here in NZ on Hayden and his plans

[RAS007]

Already.
Latvala says he is prepared already to play supporting role to Ogier - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105996)

3 rallies into the season? This is truly pitiful stuff from JML.

[TyPat107]

3 rallies into the season? This is truly pitiful stuff from JML.

If we are honest, didn't that happen the day JML signed the VW contract?

[Barreis]

Citroen may ask Loeb to do more rallies to secure WRC title - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/106061)

[Bartolbia84]

Jarkko Nikara will not drive Rally Portugal as announced but entry to Rally Sardegna with Prodrive Mini Wrc

[COD]

Already.
Latvala says he is prepared already to play supporting role to Ogier - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105996)

How does he plan to that? I mean, it doesn't look like he is the one who needs to slow down to let Ogier past, he even struggles to beat Östberg and even lame Hirvonen

[RAS007]

Citroen may ask Loeb to do more rallies to secure WRC title - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/106061)


There is the vote of confidence Mikko and Dani were looking for!

[pantealex]

Are You sure? I was thinking that non-factory teams must drive at minimum 7 rounds.

Yes I am sure. This is an MINI affair. Check FIA.com for more info. For other non-factory teams 7 is enough.

[Bartek]

Driver: Kosciuszko can drive what ever he wants, but...

Team: "Lotos Team WRC" must enter all 13 rounds with MINI

= Someone must drive "Lotos Team WRC" entered MINI in every round 2013

Thanks for this info ! :)

úp cho ngÃ*y cu?i tu?n nÃ*o :D

[stefanvv]

Just for the record:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KHMx74I5J4

[WRC1]

Just for the record:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KHMx74I5J4

booooooring....

[stefanvv]

booooooring....

:D Yes, could be much better, but it is an achievment :)

[Franky]

:D Yes, could be much better, but it is an achievment :)

It's a true achievement when you do it in mid-stage of a marathon stage with at least over 30km. Wanted to put 40 as minimum but I think there really aren't that many stages run that are longer than 40, I mean in the entire season.

[stefanvv]

It's a true achievement when you do it in mid-stage of a marathon stage with at least over 30km. Wanted to put 40 as minimum but I think there really aren't that many stages run that are longer than 40, I mean in the entire season.

That is completely different story. On a stage you would like to be on the ground as much as possible to be faster.

[handbrakes&hairpins]

booooooring....
It is an achievement. Not too boring in my books. To strap myself into a car, then jump it over a gap and land on snow the other side? Crazy stuff!! I can imagine that moment just before Mads hits the ramp. It must be so exciting in the car!

[OldF]

Markko Märtin in NORF at the Yellow house jump in 2003. A 57 m jump with a speed of 171 km/h.

Markko Märtin longest jump (WRC Neste Rally Finland 2003) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W25G1613WcU)

http://www.ilkansivu.net/Neste_Rally_Finland_2003/109_0938_EK_14_Ouninpohja_2_Markko_Martin_ja_Micha el_Park_Ford_Focus_RS_WRC_03.jpg

[tolis]

Subhan Aksa from Indonesia will drive a Ford Fiesta RRC in Portugal. He will then move to Ford Fiesta R5 from Rally Germany.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Tolis. I try to send you PM but your inbox full...

[Bartolbia84]

Subhan Aksa from Indonesia will drive a Ford Fiesta RRC in Portugal. He will then move to Ford Fiesta R5 from Rally Germany.

program?

[Mirek]

Markko Märtin in NORF at the Yellow house jump in 2003. A 57 m jump with a speed of 171 km/h.

Markko Märtin longest jump (WRC Neste Rally Finland 2003) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W25G1613WcU)

http://www.ilkansivu.net/Neste_Rally_Finland_2003/109_0938_EK_14_Ouninpohja_2_Markko_Martin_ja_Micha el_Park_Ford_Focus_RS_WRC_03.jpg

Armin Schwarz, Fafe 2001. According to TV report from that time he did 73,5 meters with a speed 180 km/h.

WRC Portugal 2001 Fafe Jump - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk9cTTYHuks)

[WRC1]

It is an achievement. Not too boring in my books. To strap myself into a car, then jump it over a gap and land on snow the other side? Crazy stuff!! I can imagine that moment just before Mads hits the ramp. It must be so exciting in the car!

as OldF and Mirek wrote, it IS an achievment to do this on a stage, but on a ramp...for me it is boring, sorry

[Barreis]

Octavia was always strong.

[SubaruNorway]

as OldF and Mirek wrote, it IS an achievment to do this on a stage, but on a ramp...for me it is boring, sorry

If you had been standing on the edge of that jump yourself you would **** your pants even thinking about jumping it! Video don't really do it justice and it's a bit hard to get good angels there. I included the whole inboard of the last jump at 4:10 in my video which really shows how tricky it was. He was supposed to hit it at 175kph but only managed 150kph cos of the jump in the start. They learn more every year so it will go further :)

Mads Østberg - Snickers All In Trysil 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNIq-WeR-7U)

[tfp]

Armin Schwarz, Fafe 2001. According to TV report from that time he did 73,5 meters with a speed 180 km/h.

WRC Portugal 2001 Fafe Jump - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk9cTTYHuks)


Here is my favourite :)

Saluk´s CRAZY JUMP - WRC Rally Turkey 2010 - YouTube (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XOe_tFIxnKY)

[Maui J.]

Here is my favourite :)

Saluk´s CRAZY JUMP - WRC Rally Turkey 2010 - YouTube (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XOe_tFIxnKY)

Forget RedBull... Mentos Gives You Wing!!!

[SubaruNorway]

Armin Schwarz, Fafe 2001. According to TV report from that time he did 73,5 meters with a speed 180 km/h.

WRC Portugal 2001 Fafe Jump - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk9cTTYHuks)

Defenitely not 73m....

Compare it with Pastrana`s 82m and i think you will see that too :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5N7R9Wbe_E

[Arganil]

Defenitely not 73m....


Agree, according to some sources Schwarz 2000 jump (2001 was the diluvian year) was near 40m: Salto de Armin Schwarz Rali Pt 2000 (ainda) - Autosport.pt (http://autosport.sapo.pt/salto-de-armin-schwarz-rali-pt-2000-ainda=f102283)

But to many of us, portuguese fans, the best jump in fafe will always be this one, from national hero Joaquim Santos in his amazing black Sierra Castrol :cool: :
Joaquim Santos - Rally de Portugal 1990 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k3pqttCAr4&feature=player_detailpage)

[GigiGalliNo1]

Meeke has high possibility of driving WRC Citroen DS3 at Rally Finland. It's either him or Atkinson says Matton.

Hänninen is back in WRC Fiesta in Portugal.

[jbmarcus21]

Volkswagen testing this week to prepare Rally Wrc Portugal .. [PHOTOS & VIDEO]
Le Team Volkswagen prépare le Rallye Wrc Portugal 2013 ! (http://planetemarcus.com/le-team-volkswagen-prepare-le-rallye-wrc-portugal-2013/)

[jbmarcus21]

Loeb testing Rally Argentina [PHOTOS]
Loeb prépare son 3ème Rdv 2013 : Le Rallye Wrc Argentine ! (http://planetemarcus.com/loeb-prepare-son-3eme-rdv-2013-le-rallye-wrc-argentine/)

[oyunbozan]

when it is about long jumps, it was in 2010 rally of turkey.
world record had broken by sebastien loeb, by 85 meters. here is some videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yye6LdGFG9c
incar. watch from 5:32 point.
remember 2.0L WRC cars have 200+ km/h top speed.
End of 2010 Onboards: Rally of Turkey, Sebastien Loeb SS20. Requested by manticorebp - YouTube (http://youtu.be/QlZNxew_sl8?t=5m32s)
i was there. :D

[jbmarcus21]

Sordo Test Days
Les Tests de Dani Sordo pour le Rallye Wrc Portugal 2013 (http://planetemarcus.com/les-tests-de-dani-sordo-pour-le-rallye-wrc-portugal-2013/)

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5403/3678v.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/3678v.jpg/)

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[Koceens]

As I remember rally Turkey 2010 was very spectacular. Plenty of impressive jumps and fast scary downhill sections. Impressive even watching only on TV. Anyone knows why it is not in calendar since 2010?

[oyunbozan]

As I remember rally Turkey 2010 was very spectacular. Plenty of impressive jumps and fast scary downhill sections. Impressive even watching only on TV. Anyone knows why it is not in calendar since 2010?

economic/politic issues within turkish association. we all hope wrc return to turkey. it doesn't matter if in antalya or istanbul. i did not expect such great rally with huge jumps and high overall topspeed in istanbul. it was very spectacular.

[Kielder]

It was a long wait for him:

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/750814183.jpg

[Teme]

It was a long wait for him:

Yeah, been waiting for him to return to World Rally Car since 2007.

[Hartusvuori]

It was a long wait for him

But it served him well. This is in a way his WRC debut.

[Red bull]

Peugeot returns to Pikes Peak with Sébastien Loeb | News | Motorsport.com (http://www.motorsport.com/hillclimb/news/peugeot-returns-to-pikes-peak-with-s-bastien-loeb/)

[Bartolbia84]

Yazeed Al-Rajhi à l (http://www.bhmultimedias.be/yazeed-al-rajhi-a-lhopital/)

[A FONDO]

The hummbuggy looks awesome in this outfit! Video from previous day (with some huge OFFROAD cuts :D )


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd0GYaV9jzw

[dimviii]

The hummbuggy looks awesome in this outfit! Video from previous day (with some huge OFFROAD cuts :D

from Colins twitter..
Big crash for Yazeed in cross country event. Hearing back injuries for him and codriver. Wishing both speedy recovery

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGcUEjmCEAEJWPL.jpg:large

[Mirek]

According to an interview with Michel Nandan in Czech paper magazin Rally there is going to be a change in WRC homologation rules. Since 2014 WRC homologation is not going to be an extension of S2000 homologation but a sole WRC one. That means since 2014 we will not see any more new S2000/RRC.

Nandan also said they would use X-Trac transmission and a purpose-built "global engine". Although they have 1.6T DI stock engine they don't think it's better to use it as a basis. The main reason is expected higher reliability of the purpose-built unit. In the moment the prototypes are equipped with tuned production engine. The real WRC unit is still under development.

[MartijnS]

from Colins twitter..
Big crash for Yazeed in cross country event. Hearing back injuries for him and codriver. Wishing both speedy recovery


Too bad :(
We're going to the Sealine Cross Country in Qatar end of April and he was supposed to drive there, probably wont happen now I guess ;)

[dimviii]

World Rally Championship - News - FIA confirms Hankook for Junior WRC (http://www.wrc.com/news/fia-confirms-hankook-for-junior-wrc/?fid=18402)

[dimviii]

http://distilleryimage7.s3.amazonaws.com/fbdc5318985311e2a27d22000a9f165c_7.jpg

[muratgunarslan]

Here is my favourite :)

Saluk´s CRAZY JUMP - WRC Rally Turkey 2010 - YouTube (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XOe_tFIxnKY)

i saw this scene with my own eyes :D
it was incredible ;)

[Josti]

http://distilleryimage7.s3.amazonaws.com/fbdc5318985311e2a27d22000a9f165c_7.jpg

He's a goner.

[Blitzerflitzer]

In Munich is no x-games rally-competition.

[tfp]

i saw this scene with my own eyes :D
it was incredible ;)

I am very jeallous! Have you any recordings of it?

There seems to be a lot of rally drivers at the minute making the switch to GRC, I may have to see what all the fuss is about....

[Franky]

There seems to be a lot of rally drivers at the minute making the switch to GRC, I may have to see what all the fuss is about....

This should be a full race broadcast from last year - [HD] Global Rallycross Championship 2012 - Texas (Full) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw69mBTvaeE)

[tommeke_B]

I am very jeallous! Have you any recordings of it?

There seems to be a lot of rally drivers at the minute making the switch to GRC, I may have to see what all the fuss is about....

You mean drivers who don't find a seat in the WRC and don't want to go a step down inside their own sport: rallying? ;)

[SubaruNorway]

In Munich is no x-games rally-competition.

Rallycross you mean, yes there is.

Events - X Games (http://xgames.espn.go.com/events/2013/)

[Fly_Half]

i saw this scene with my own eyes :D
it was incredible ;)

As did I! Unfortunately I was messing about doing some 'arty' stuff and didn't get a photo of it! I was the other side if the jump and he was the only person all day who didn't lift for the jump - he took it absolutely flat in 5th!

Did get this one of El Coyote going into orbit though:

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4072/4545489623_a5e7b7d144.jpg

[Blitzerflitzer]

TICKETS / X GAMES MUNICH (http://www.xgames-munich.com/de_tickets.html)


Rallycross you mean

i think, the Most Unverstand what i mean.

So, if you find the Secret link to Tickets and Timetable, please Show ist to us. :)

[dimviii]

from Colins twitter
All the best and a speedy recovery to @yazeed_alRajhi (https://twitter.com/Yazeed_AlRajhi) @YazeedRacing (https://twitter.com/YazeedRacing) who's in hospital today for op on damaged vertebrae.

[Timole]

I have a new webpage starting from last week, it is located at Timo Anis Photography (http://timoanis.eu). All the pictures from wrc and also from other events will be posted there!

[Langdale Forest]

Petter Solberg has confirmed that he will go to Hyundai as a test driver.

[MJW]

I see you have remembered to change the page on your calendar ;-)

[tommeke_B]

French driver Eric Brunson announced he will be competing in Germany and France-Alsace with a Citroën DS3 WRC! He's one of the better drivers in the French championship and I wouldn't be surprised if he finishes around top 10. :) - Of course it's April 1st today...

[dimviii]

I have a new webpage starting from last week, it is located at Timo Anis Photography (http://timoanis.eu). All the pictures from wrc and also from other events will be posted there!

Are you faster than Jafry at uploading pictures at same day for wrc? :D

[dimviii]

Petter Solberg has confirmed that he will go to Hyundai as a test driver.

confirmed where?

[tommeke_B]

confirmed where?

Confirmed as a failed joke for 1st of april. :p

[Timole]

i am doing my best. i would like to think that a picture has to be published right after not a week after the event!

[dimviii]

:dozey:

[dimviii]

i am doing my best. i would like to think that a picture has to be published right after not a week after the event!

Τhanks Timole! Dont forget to remind us with a link here asap you will upload each day.

[danon]

Confirmed... :D

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5595/psh1e.jpg

[Langdale Forest]

That looks like fake propaganda.

[Kielder]

Now is Neuville who is rumoured to be hired by Hyundai. So, they already have Petter, P.G., Meeke, Paddon, Juho and the Belgian :D . If they hire another driver, they'll need a third team...

[wrc45]

Why would they hire Paddon. He does not have any experience with a WRC car. The best combination for Hyndai will be Tänak and Neuville because they are capable of securing podium positions.

[tolis]

AUTOhebdo.fr | David Beckham au Wales GB Rally (http://www.autohebdo.fr/rallye/wrc/breve-26-1-48705/010413-david-beckham-au-wales-gb-rally)

[rallyfiend]

AUTOhebdo.fr | David Beckham au Wales GB Rally (http://www.autohebdo.fr/rallye/wrc/breve-26-1-48705/010413-david-beckham-au-wales-gb-rally)

Worst. April Fools. Ever.

[jbmarcus21]

Deutschland Rally road program is out Le Parcours du Rallye Wrc Allemagne 2013 dévoilé ! (http://planetemarcus.com/le-parcours-du-rallye-wrc-allemagne-2013-devoile/)

[Bartolbia84]

the Paraguayan pilot Diego Dominguez, in the first race WRC2 for him in Argentina, on Lancer EVO X.
In Argentina, back to Daniel Olivera on Fiesta WRC.,

[tolis]

Rally Argentina provisional entry list with only 12 WRC's, including Oliveira!
http://www.rallyargentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Listado-Inscriptos_RA13_provisorio2-4-13.pdf

[PLuto]

Daniel Oliveira was planning Rally Argentina as his only WRC event this year.

[Carlo]

Why would they hire Paddon.

1. He has a very acute engineering brain
2. He is very accomplished at setting cars up including developing suspension and transmission settings
3. He is very marketable and is a sponsors dream to work with
4. He does not knock cars around too much
5. And he is pretty handy as a driver too

[sollitt]

Why would they hire Paddon. He does not have any experience with a WRC car. If that theory was applied in the past, you'd never have seen either Loeb or Ogier in a WRC car. In fact, Paddon's pedigree would surpass both of those drivers prior to them being given their respective opportunities.

At the end of the day, a WRC car is simply another piece of equipment to get your head around. Surely somebody with the winning mentality capable of winning 74% of stages that they contest should be able to handle that OK.

[tommeke_B]

When Tanak was driving the SWRC he crashed only once I think? In that season... ;) There still is a step, not only the car, but also the competition level of the other drivers you're getting between in a WRC-car. Paddon is a great driver, and who knows he could make it to "3rd" driver, similar to what VW has with Mikkelsen? My guess for first and second driver for Hyundai would be Hänninen and Neuville... :)

[Hazza555)]

If that theory was applied in the past, you'd never have seen either Loeb or Ogier in a WRC car. In fact, Paddon's pedigree would surpass both of those drivers prior to them being given their respective opportunities.

At the end of the day, a WRC car is simply another piece of equipment to get your head around. Surely somebody with the winning mentality capable of winning 74% of stages that they contest should be able to handle that OK.

And Hyundai have a huge presence in New Zealand... something Paddon himself is aware of

[Hartusvuori]

When Tanak was driving the SWRC he crashed only once I think? In that season... ;) There still is a step, not only the car, but also the competition level of the other drivers you're getting between in a WRC-car. Paddon is a great driver, and who knows he could make it to "3rd" driver, similar to what VW has with Mikkelsen? My guess for first and second driver for Hyundai would be Hänninen and Neuville... :)

Tänak crashed in Catalunya, if I remember right. Also in NORF, when under pressure from Juho he had a spin that eventually cost him minutes. But Neuville's WRC debut season wasn't all success either...

For Hyundai though, Hänninen-Neuville-Paddon lineup would get my acceptance :-) Great drivers and also marketing-wise a great selection.

[sollitt]

There still is a step, not only the car, but also the competition level of the other drivers you're getting between in a WRC-car. Of course there's a 'step'. But some take steps easier and in bigger bounds than others. And some are already at the higher level but for an opportunity. Paddon is one of those. He's won in absolutely everything he's ever sat his arse in. It's a habit that's simply part of his DNA. That's what most of you wearing the Euro blinkers miss. Given the opportunity he wouldn't simply make podiums, he'd win outright. Sadly, like yourself, I doubt he'll get the chance.

[bluuford]

Rally Argentina provisional entry list with only 12 WRC's, including Oliveira!
http://www.rallyargentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Listado-Inscriptos_RA13_provisorio2-4-13.pdf

Where is Brynidlsen?

[PLuto]

Where is Brynidlsen?

At home?

[Sulland]

At least on his homepage Bryildsen states that this is his WRC program:


Svenske Rally 10-13.Feb
Rally Jordan 11-16.April
Rally Sardinia 5-8.Mai
Rally Akropolis 16-19.Juni
Rally Finland 28-31. Juli
Rally Tyskland 18-21.Aug
Rally Frankrike 29.Sept - 2.Oct
Rally Catalunya 21-24.Oct

[Bartolbia84]

Where is Brynidlsen?

should play Acropolis and Sardinia!

[Bartolbia84]

At least on his homepage Bryildsen states that this is his WRC program:


Svenske Rally 10-13.Feb
Rally Jordan 11-16.April
Rally Sardinia 5-8.Mai
Rally Akropolis 16-19.Juni
Rally Finland 28-31. Juli
Rally Tyskland 18-21.Aug
Rally Frankrike 29.Sept - 2.Oct
Rally Catalunya 21-24.Oct

Mmmm I think of :) program 2011

[EightGear]

Kevin Abbring will contest the French Peugeot 208 Cup with Sainteloc.

Google Translate (http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A//2b4.r.mailjet.com/1zXp.html%3Fa%3D2VXCXq%26b%3Ddf405487%26)

Volkswagen didn't need to expand their line-up anymore after MINI and Ford withdrew from WRC so there was no space left for him there.

[dimviii]

Brazil in new push for World Rally Championship date - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/106494)

[Bartolbia84]

Gabriel Pozzo will be at the start of the rally of argentina on the Mini WRC Motorsport Italia (http://www.facebook.com/Motorsportita?group_id=0)!!!!

[Kielder]

"Mickey Mouse" stages are back, Great Orme will return on the final day, a loop will be run in the dark after the Conwy start...

Wales Rally GB to start and finish in Llandudno (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2013/04/03/wales-rally-gb-to-start-and-finish-in-llandudno-55578-33111655/)

[Mirek]

What is Mickey Mouse about Great Orme?

[Kielder]

What is Mickey Mouse about Great Orme?

The event will mix this year the stately home-style spectator stages and the forest stages. The Great Orme is an extra (possibly as the Power Stage).

[Mirek]

Still despite being short and tarmac The Great Orme is natural and very nice road. It has nothing to do with artificial spectator race tracks.

[Kielder]

Still despite being short and tarmac The Great Orme is natural and very nice road. It has nothing to do with artificial spectator race tracks.

They both will draw fans back to this event. Those stages are closer to cities as Birmingham, Liverpool or Manchester. I believe many spectators miss the "Mickey Mouse" stages. The Great Orme was a big success in 2011 (except for Ogier...).

[rallyfiend]

Both will draw fans back to this event. Those stages are closer to cities as Birmingham, Liverpool or Manchester.

Would be great to see Ogier stick it in the wall again. Especially if the Championship is on the line.

[noel157]

Would be great to see Ogier stick it in the wall again. Especially if the Championship is on the line.

No it wouldn't. Daft statement.

[dimviii]

Al-Rajhi’s Saudi crash
MAXRALLY - Al-Rajhi (http://www.maxrally.com/2013/04/05/al-rajhis-saudi-crash)

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally)2ω (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/320219421044011010)
“ Dr. Regen decided that Yazeed AlRajhi doesn't need Back Surgery, he needs is rest for three months @Yazeed_AlRajhi (https://twitter.com/Yazeed_AlRajhi)” great news for Yazeed!

[Kielder]

Some days ago there was on this thread a talk about which one is the most amazing jump in rallying. If I remember well, some famous places were mentioned: one in Turkey, many in Finland, Bunnings, Ourique and, of course, the second jump at Lameirinha stage. To me, this is the best one. It doesn't matter the length the cars jump, the point is how narrow the road is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=S_m7sD-Nn6M

[Xsara Fan]

Some news about Rally Masters Show (Moscow, Russia).

Evgeny Novikov will drive Ford Focus RS WRC(!) (http://rallyshow.ru/papka-s-novostyami-2013-en/en-evgenij-novikov-start-na-wrc.html)

Markko Martin`s interview (http://rallyshow.ru/papka-s-novostyami-2013-en/en-markko-martin-pre.html)

The leader of Russian Rally Championship will have his MINI WRC debut (http://rallyshow.ru/papka-s-novostyami-2013-en/en-gena-broslavskij-debyut-na-mini-wrc!.html)

'Crazy Russian' Alex Lukjanuk also take part in RMS 2013 (http://rallyshow.ru/papka-s-novostyami-2013-en/alexey-lukjanuk-pre.html)

[jbmarcus21]

Kevin Abbring will contest the French Peugeot 208 Cup with Sainteloc.

Google Translate (http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A//2b4.r.mailjet.com/1zXp.html%3Fa%3D2VXCXq%26b%3Ddf405487%26)

Volkswagen didn't need to expand their line-up anymore after MINI and Ford withdrew from WRC so there was no space left for him there.

He won it :)

[Mintexmemory]

They both will draw fans back to this event. Those stages are closer to cities as Birmingham, Liverpool or Manchester. I believe many spectators miss the "Mickey Mouse" stages. The Great Orme was a big success in 2011 (except for Ogier...).

If you have looked at the thread on the 'Fan-friendly WRGB' you will see that the Welsh Newspaper article is a little hyperbolic.
As yet they haven't announced which 'stately home' stages they plan to use. MN believes they will have to be in Wales where as far as I can recall only Margam Park fits the bill and has been used before. All the suggestions made by MN are not particularly within 'attractive' distance of the 3 cities mentioned. As you will see we have been debating whether the organisers will be able to cut a deal with the sponsors to run some stages the other side of the border - consensus is that it will be unlikely.
However, Sunday on the Orme would be nice as it is one of the most scenic stages in the UK
Block / Gelsomino - Fiesta WRC - Great Orme - Wales Rally GB 2011 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/74mex/6351184046/in/set-72157628025192329/)
End of the day - Great Orme | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/74mex/6353460377/in/set-72157628025192329/)
Great Orme - Wales Rally GB 2011 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/74mex/6353461229/in/set-72157628025192329/)

[Mirek]

He won it :)

It's a pity Consani retired. In the first leg he was clearly faster.

[Kielder]

Rally de Portugal in the South or Rally de Portugal in the North, that is the question: http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=642133&tm=43&layout=158&visual=49Turismo do Algarve vai fazer tudo para evitar regresso do Rali de Portugal ao norte (http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=642133&tm=43&layout=158&visual=49)
Google Translator to English (http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=642133&tm=43&layout=158&visual=49)
P.S. I hope not as North as Sweet Lamb :p .http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=642133&tm=43&layout=158&visual=49

[Hazza555)]

Rally de Portugal in the South or Rally de Portugal in the North, that is the question: http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=642133&tm=43&layout=158&visual=49Turismo do Algarve vai fazer tudo para evitar regresso do Rali de Portugal ao norte (http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=642133&tm=43&layout=158&visual=49)
Google Translator to English (http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=642133&tm=43&layout=158&visual=49)
P.S. I hope not as North as Sweet Lamb :p .http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=642133&tm=43&layout=158&visual=49

I dunno, the Portuguese might be able to be a better job of Rally GB... If they can get 100,000 people to turn up to a rallysprint... :D

[Red bull]

Hyundai strengthens WRC team | WRC News | Apr 2013 | Crash.Net (http://www.crash.net/world+rally/news/189641/1/hyundai_strengthens_wrc_team.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss)

[Bartolbia84]

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/906472_264159770388222_7308383_o.jpg

[A FONDO]

I cant find the topic for VW in WRC :confused:

Here's an interview with Capito - [url=http://new.almrally.ru/news_card.php?ns=10331&prt=40]Ð’Ñ

[mousti]

Nothing new, btw if someone want to order a Polo RRC are they obliged to deliver one ? Am I right or wrong? :)

[EightGear]

And he gives a good idea that the rallies should be in two days (with the same total mileage) - Friday and Saturday, so that a complete review of the event can be aired in Sunday evening.

I wouldn't mind that at all. Some events already have adopted this kind of schedule this year (Acropolis, Sardegna) and on most other events the Sunday usually is only a short day with stages that could have been included in the previous days. It will also be a welcome change in the iternary's, because it's quite boring to see every day almost the same structure: 3 stages in the morning, lunch and service, and a re-run of the stages in the afternoon. More stages can easily be done in one day, and it doesn't have to affect the total distance of the rally. Just look at Ypres...

[vino_93]

Toyota has returned to international rally competition with a Toyota Vitz RS registered for the 2013 Asia Pacific Rally Championship - a joint venture between Japan’s Cusco Racing and Toyota Racing Development (TRD).

The Toyota Vitz RS (known as Yaris in some markets) will compete in the APRC’s FIA Two-wheel drive Cup, FIA Junior Cup and the Asia Cup.

The first international event for the Cusco TRD Vitz will be Round One of the 2013 APRC - Rally of Whangarei, New Zealand May 17-19th, followed by international rallies in Australia, Malaysia, Japan and finishing with December's Thailand Rally. The Toyota Vitz will be driven by twenty year-old New Zealander Michael Young and Australian co-driver Daniel Willson.

TRD Motorsport’s Group Manager for Planning and Promotions Mr Makoto Kohno said, “After a successful test for the Toyota Vitz RS at Rally Hokkaido in 2012, Toyota Racing Development is very pleased to join with the Cusco Racing team to take on the unique challenges of the FIA Asia Pacific Rally Championship. The APRC will enable us to further develop the Vitz into a very competitive rally car for the future”.

The Cusco Racing team is owned by Carrosser Corporation and its president Mr Tsutomu Nagase confirmed the company's plans for the Cusco-TRD Vitz, “ International rallying is central to our motor sport schedule in 2013 and we are very excited by this new project with Toyota Racing Development. Carrosser’s intention is to broaden its range of products and reach a wider group of motor sport fans in Japan and abroad. The two-wheel drive class is a growing part of the Asia Pacific Rally Championship and the Cusco-TRD Vitz will be very competitive in this category”.

Michael Young has been a regular driver for Cusco Racing since 2011, winning the APRC’s Junior Cup class in New Zealand and Australia in 2012. The New Zealander is looking forward to driving the Toyota Vitz, “It’s a new challenge and a great opportunity to be part of developing a new car. All the events in the Asia Pacific Rally Championship have very different surfaces and conditions - part of the challenge will be setting up the car to work in all those situations”.
​
“Starting on my home event will make the transition to a new car slightly easier and we have some ‘bench-mark’ stage-times to compare the Toyota Vitz to the Group N Proton Satria we used in 2012. The New Zealand roads are very fast and should suit the Vitz which has very good power to weight ratio”.
The Cusco-TRD Vitz team will be supported on the 2013 Asia Pacific Rally Championship by Dunlop Japan.



Asian Motorsport (http://www.pittalkasia.com/#!news/nws4/D8FC4E61-A15C-4E04-A31A-6B7D1EDD1797/toyota-enters-2013-asia-pacific-rally-championship.)

[vino_93]

Toyota has returned to international rally competition with a Toyota Vitz RS registered for the 2013 Asia Pacific Rally Championship - a joint venture between Japan’s Cusco Racing and Toyota Racing Development (TRD).

The Toyota Vitz RS (known as Yaris in some markets) will compete in the APRC’s FIA Two-wheel drive Cup, FIA Junior Cup and the Asia Cup.

The first international event for the Cusco TRD Vitz will be Round One of the 2013 APRC - Rally of Whangarei, New Zealand May 17-19th, followed by international rallies in Australia, Malaysia, Japan and finishing with December's Thailand Rally. The Toyota Vitz will be driven by twenty year-old New Zealander Michael Young and Australian co-driver Daniel Willson.

TRD Motorsport’s Group Manager for Planning and Promotions Mr Makoto Kohno said, “After a successful test for the Toyota Vitz RS at Rally Hokkaido in 2012, Toyota Racing Development is very pleased to join with the Cusco Racing team to take on the unique challenges of the FIA Asia Pacific Rally Championship. The APRC will enable us to further develop the Vitz into a very competitive rally car for the future”.

The Cusco Racing team is owned by Carrosser Corporation and its president Mr Tsutomu Nagase confirmed the company's plans for the Cusco-TRD Vitz, “ International rallying is central to our motor sport schedule in 2013 and we are very excited by this new project with Toyota Racing Development. Carrosser’s intention is to broaden its range of products and reach a wider group of motor sport fans in Japan and abroad. The two-wheel drive class is a growing part of the Asia Pacific Rally Championship and the Cusco-TRD Vitz will be very competitive in this category”.

Michael Young has been a regular driver for Cusco Racing since 2011, winning the APRC’s Junior Cup class in New Zealand and Australia in 2012. The New Zealander is looking forward to driving the Toyota Vitz, “It’s a new challenge and a great opportunity to be part of developing a new car. All the events in the Asia Pacific Rally Championship have very different surfaces and conditions - part of the challenge will be setting up the car to work in all those situations”.
​
“Starting on my home event will make the transition to a new car slightly easier and we have some ‘bench-mark’ stage-times to compare the Toyota Vitz to the Group N Proton Satria we used in 2012. The New Zealand roads are very fast and should suit the Vitz which has very good power to weight ratio”.
The Cusco-TRD Vitz team will be supported on the 2013 Asia Pacific Rally Championship by Dunlop Japan.



Asian Motorsport (http://www.pittalkasia.com/#!news/nws4/D8FC4E61-A15C-4E04-A31A-6B7D1EDD1797/toyota-enters-2013-asia-pacific-rally-championship.)

[trickydicky]

So you'd be happy with 2 day rally's with only 6 actual stages?

This is another member of a manufacturer trying to fit rally's to fit on TV. The last 15 years have proved that however you air rally highlights nobody except rally fans want to watch them, and they are not a big draw. The previous 25 years of the WRC proved that having unique rally's over long routes draws in a much larger 'live' audience than can ever be captured on TV with some rubbish highlights show showing Jari-Matti Latvala's face and feet. The IRC also showed that stages can be shown on TV live. The longer your rally is the more days live coverage you have.

Am I the only person who looks at rally's this way, or is everyone else happy with the current situation?!

[EightGear]

So you'd be happy with 2 day rally's with only 6 actual stages?


No you completely misunderstood. I meant that it would be very possible to include more stages on 1 day. Not the usual 6 a day format, but maybe 10 or something. The total competitive distance of the event wouldn't change.

[Mirek]

As You pointed in Ypres it's normal to run around 200 km in one day so why not.

[mousti]

Slowson will drive Sasol Rally with a Fiesta S2000 navigated by Chris Patterson.

[jbmarcus21]

DS3 R5 !
[GALLERY PHOTOS]
Citroën présente la DS3 R5 !!! (http://planetemarcus.com/citroen-presente-la-ds3-r5/)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2707/ds3r5presentation.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/ds3r5presentation.jpg/)

[cali]

This car is absolute beauty!

[EightGear]

Is it just me or is the back of the car slightly longer than the WRC version? Anyway I think it looks better this way.

[cali]

Is it just me or is the back of the car slightly longer than the WRC version? Anyway I think it looks better this way.
Rear fender design is totally different (read: better looking) ;)

[Franky]

To be honest, I support the three day format more than a two day one. And I'm not even considering the amount of competitive distance covered but purely from a spectator point of view, the amount of action/emotion for the cost. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think quite a few mentioned that they aren't planning to go to Greece because of the two day format and expensive travel.

A few two day rallies in the calendar are ok, but the entire season ... hell no. In my opinion rallies should get harder the more you move up the levels (from local, to national, etc).

Also the change is suggested based on TV. Here's a reality check: Does WRC have anything to sell the masses? Are there two huge rivals going head to head each round and the championship is a tight fight? Are there Characters? Is there something very unique? Most of these questions would get more or less negative answer, meaning the potential audience size is already pretty small. So is it aired Sunday or Monday evening, there's not much difference.

It's not the TV they should be worried about at the moment, they should concentrate on the web - first create a buzz and then use other platforms to re-enforce the spiked interested in rallying.

[Hazza555)]

Also the change is suggested based on TV. Here's a reality check: Does WRC have anything to sell the masses? Are there two huge rivals going head to head each round and the championship is a tight fight? Are there Characters? Is there something very unique? Most of these questions would get more or less negative answer, meaning the potential audience size is already pretty small. So is it aired Sunday or Monday evening, there's not much difference.

You must remember it is a sport, and not a soap opera. Yes it is important to have characters etc. because it makes the sport easier to follow. Rallying is a very unique sport, the reason any particular country would want to hold a rally is the potential boost in tourism (although this concept is based on the fact that people pay attention to the sport). Unlike any other sport you actually see the country that is hosting the event. Not just the stadium where the event is being played. Most sports, the location has no effect on the sport itself, a football match for example doesn't change if it is one country or the other, even a grand prix (particularly now with Tilke's generic copy and past circuit design) the location has no bearing on the sport itself. But rallying does. Where the rally actually is a critical factor to the sport. The only sport I could liken it to is cycling. Rallying could learn a lot in terms of media coverage from cycling. How often during the Tour is camera looking at some part of the landscape or some ancient church. It always is, probably because nothing exciting is happening in the race in that particular point, but still that doesn't stop millions of people watching it. So no the WRC doesn't haven't anything to sell to the masses, because the WRC isn't trying to sell anything. The WRC is the market, the rallies are the fruit and vege. The rallies are trying to sell their countries. Sure there are some rallies which are more for the sake of the sport, like Monte Carlo and Finland, but you need those for the sport. It gives it prestige and history, something any sport needs. It would be like tennis with wimbledon otherwise.

Rallying is one the most unique sports on the planet, it just hasn't been shown in that way. (Although Loeb didn't help by making everything look same same every week, a true testament to how incredible he was. Or how rubbish the rest of the competition were.)

If it is on TV people are more likely to stumble upon it and say hey look at this. There not going stumble there way onto WRC.com are they. You need good internet coverage to back up TV coverage, so that once the product has been seen on TV, then go and look it up on the internet.

At the moment the WRC is only (just) catering for existing fans of the sport. The WRC at the moment is like an old rock band just replaying it's greatest hits, good for the fans (arguable for the WRC though), but not good for exposure. The WRC needs to get back in studio and write a new album.

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally)1ω (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/322309224891838465)
Hankook tyres confirmed to me this morning that they are aiming for the full WRC next season. Comparative and development testing is ongoing

[Maui J.]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally)1ω (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/322309224891838465)
Hankook tyres confirmed to me this morning that they are aiming for the full WRC next season. Comparative and development testing is ongoing

Hyundai and Hankook... the Koreans are coming!

Come on Japan. Your turn to take up the challenge.

[jbmarcus21]

2013 Wrc Standings
[Drivers, Manufacturers, Top Scratchs, Power Stage] Saison WRC (http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/) - Ogier leads Hirvo48pts, Loeb43pts... Volkswagen leads 121pts, Citroen106pts...

[jbmarcus21]

Peugeot Sport reveals 208T16 Sebastien Loeb for Pikes Peak 2013
[GALLERY PHOTOS]
Peugeot Sport dévoile la 208 T16 Pikes Peak de Sébastien Loeb ! (http://planetemarcus.com/peugeot-sport-devoile-la-208-t16-pikes-peak-de-sebastien-loeb/)

[Motorsportfun]

Hyundai and Hankook... the Koreans are coming!

Thank God, they're from the southern part of it... :rotflmao:

[makinen_fan]

WRC-Ablösung durch R5?*:: rallye-magazin.de (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm/nachrichten/news-detail/d/2013/04/15/wrc-abloesung-durch-r5/index.html)

[Rasantes]

Gabriel Pozzo will drive a Fiesta WRC of M-Sport in Argentina.

[Mirek]

Esapekka Lappi is on the entry list of Rallye Lužické Hory (Czech Rallysprint championship), 28th April.

[sindroms]

Kalle Rovanpera starting his rally career!

Three races in Latvian rally championship this year - rallysprint "Kalnmuiža" in 05.05., rally "Kurzeme" 30.-31.08 and rally "Latvija" 21.09-22.09.
If everything goes as planned he will get Latvian ASN license for 2014 Latvian rally championship and there is negotiations for 7 years agreement between him and Latvian ASN.

[tolis]

car?

[J.Lindstroem]

So in Latvia you have to be 12 or 13 to drive the national championchip? Thats fantastic!

[sindroms]

car?

2WD, of course. R2 was mentioned as highest possible class for him to drive. Let's follow rallysprint "Kalnamuiža" - http://lrc.lv/?m=2&l=2 - entries to, in next 2 weeks we will see which car.


So in Latvia you have to be 12 or 13 to drive the national championchip? Thats fantastic!

These 12 or 13 years seems to me very special occasion... :) but in generally - yes it's possible. Applicants have to take part in 3 rallysprint events at least. Experienced co-driver is a must. Youngsters are not allowed to do road sections, only special stages (due to lack of drivers license). After these 3 events Latvian ASN make decision to allow or not to compete whole rally season.

[makinen_fan]

The Automobile Club de Monaco has announced a revised route for next year's World Rally Championship opener, with Gap replacing Valence as the starting venue.
Valence has hosted the event - as both a WRC and Intercontinental Rally Challenge round – for the last seven years. But next season, Gap will be the focus for the first half of the event.
A statement from the ACM said: "After seven consecutive years with a start from Valence in the Drome region, competitors on the 82nd Monte Carlo Rally are going to renew an itinerary from Monte Carlo to Gap (Hautes-Alpes).
"After two days of competition, crews will arrive in Monte Carlo on Friday January 17 in order to finish in the night from Saturday to Sunday January 19 by the traditional route in the Nice countryside."
This move will be good news for current WRC leader Sebastien Ogier, who was born and brought up in Gap.

Organisers announce revisions for the 2014 WRC Monte Carlo Rally - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/106830)

[makinen_fan]

The Automobile Club de Monaco has announced a revised route for next year's World Rally Championship opener, with Gap replacing Valence as the starting venue.
Valence has hosted the event - as both a WRC and Intercontinental Rally Challenge round – for the last seven years. But next season, Gap will be the focus for the first half of the event.
A statement from the ACM said: "After seven consecutive years with a start from Valence in the Drome region, competitors on the 82nd Monte Carlo Rally are going to renew an itinerary from Monte Carlo to Gap (Hautes-Alpes).
"After two days of competition, crews will arrive in Monte Carlo on Friday January 17 in order to finish in the night from Saturday to Sunday January 19 by the traditional route in the Nice countryside."
This move will be good news for current WRC leader Sebastien Ogier, who was born and brought up in Gap.

Organisers announce revisions for the 2014 WRC Monte Carlo Rally - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/106830)

[stefanvv]

The Automobile Club de Monaco has announced a revised route for next year's World Rally Championship opener, with Gap replacing Valence as the starting venue.
Valence has hosted the event - as both a WRC and Intercontinental Rally Challenge round – for the last seven years. But next season, Gap will be the focus for the first half of the event.
A statement from the ACM said: "After seven consecutive years with a start from Valence in the Drome region, competitors on the 82nd Monte Carlo Rally are going to renew an itinerary from Monte Carlo to Gap (Hautes-Alpes).
"After two days of competition, crews will arrive in Monte Carlo on Friday January 17 in order to finish in the night from Saturday to Sunday January 19 by the traditional route in the Nice countryside."
This move will be good news for current WRC leader Sebastien Ogier, who was born and brought up in Gap.

Organisers announce revisions for the 2014 WRC Monte Carlo Rally - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/106830)

Yeah, the French champions have big gravity for the routes in the French rounds

[Mikkaki]

PG Andersson is more or less ready for Sardinia in WRC. His association with Oleksij Tamrazov seem to continue. A start in Finland are also on the agenda. He will run Tamrazovs Fiesta WRC. Which besides just having run five rallies since new :)

[Bartolbia84]

PG Andersson is more or less ready for Sardinia in WRC. His association with Oleksij Tamrazov seem to continue. A start in Finland are also on the agenda. He will run Tamrazovs Fiesta WRC. Which besides just having run five rallies since new :)

Oleksiy Tamrazov should also make the Sardinia as well telling me on FB

[OldF]

car?

Probably with this car.

News at the bottom of the page.
Out latest news - PrintSport.fi (http://www.printsport.fi/news.php)

Kalle C2R2MAX - Printsport Pictures (http://printsport.smugmug.com/Rally2012/Kalle-Rovanpera-2012/Kalle-C2R2MAX/20708334_xHZsXS#!i=1591804688&k=PCLbN3D)

[Bartolbia84]

Rally ItaliaSardegna ‏@Rally_d_Italia (https://twitter.com/Rally_d_Italia)14s (https://twitter.com/Rally_d_Italia/status/325166492289212416)

Benito Guerra confirm to drive DS3 Wrc at @Rally_d_Italia (https://twitter.com/Rally_d_Italia)

[Fly_Half]

These 12 or 13 years seems to me very special occasion... :) but in generally - yes it's possible. Applicants have to take part in 3 rallysprint events at least. Experienced co-driver is a must. Youngsters are not allowed to do road sections, only special stages (due to lack of drivers license). After these 3 events Latvian ASN make decision to allow or not to compete whole rally season.

I think I'm right in saying a number of youngsters from the UK came over to Latvia a few years ago, Tom Cave may have been one of them?

[tolis]

Yes, both Thomas Cave (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=4939&t=Thomas-Cave) and Tom Clark (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=13015&t=Tom-Clark)!

[mousti]

Indeed I remember Cave driving with the flag of Letland on his Proton.

[EightGear]

Indeed I remember Cave driving with the flag of Letland on his Proton.

Latvia you mean, Letland is Dutch. :p

[sindroms]

Yes, both Thomas Cave (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=4939&t=Thomas-Cave) and Tom Clark (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=13015&t=Tom-Clark)!

There was Osian Pryce from GB too. At least in 2009 season.

Vasiliy Gryazin (19 years old, son of Stanislav Gryazin) is doing the same way. He started right away with 4WD car about 3 years ago. By the way, I suggest to start pay attention to him. Talanted, quick learning guy, well funded and most important - very wise managed, by his father. Just take look at his this season campaign - Sports Racing Technologies (http://www.srt.lv/) (right side on the page) and they are doing big amount of tests as well.

[Red bull]

MAXRALLY - Is there a surprise in store from Loeb? (http://www.maxrally.com/2013/04/21/is-there-a-surprise-in-store-from-loeb)

[makinen_fan]

Those are 'old' news from yesterday. He announced that he will be doing Porsche Supercup in Monaco and Barcelona that runs before the F1 GP. See official fb page:
http://www.facebook.com/SebLoebOfficiel?fref=ts

[dimviii]

some interesting news

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally)18ω (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/326049518456025088)
Lots of connections between Nasser and Seb. Seb tested Nasser's buggy, Nasser bought 50% share in PH Sport, who are building his buggy!

[GigiGalliNo1]

some interesting news

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally)18ω (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/326049518456025088)
Lots of connections between Nasser and Seb. Seb tested Nasser's buggy, Nasser bought 50% share in PH Sport, who are building his buggy!

This is old news about PH.... Obviously it'll be Loeb, Sainz and Nasser doing Dakar in 2014. Ford driver, with a VW supported and paid driver and PSA paid driver working/driving for a Qatari? Oh to have that much money.... :D

[dimviii]

:D

8) What has been the most frightening moment of your career so far?
MO: “Not sure…. The first that come to my mind is that long stage in Mexico, when I really needed to go to the toilet when I arrived at the stage end. I was bursting!”

World Rally Championship - News - Features - Answers please: Mads Ostberg (http://www.wrc.com/news/features/answers-please-mads-ostberg/?fid=18503)

[dimviii]

:D

8) What has been the most frightening moment of your career so far?
MO: “Not sure…. The first that come to my mind is that long stage in Mexico, when I really needed to go to the toilet when I arrived at the stage end. I was bursting!”

World Rally Championship - News - Features - Answers please: Mads Ostberg (http://www.wrc.com/news/features/answers-please-mads-ostberg/?fid=18503)

[Rally Hokkaido]

After all the recent discussion about him, it seems I'll be able to see young Lappi live in action over here!

http://www.motorsportforums.com/americas-asia-pacific-african-rallying/158000-aprc-2013-a.html

[rallyfiend]

They haven't messed around with this bad boy.

Loeb should have a lot of fun.

Peugeot reveals full spec of Loeb's 875bhp, 875kg Pikes Peak T16 - Other news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107020)

[jbmarcus21]

#WRC #Pikespeak New [GALLERY PHOTOS] 208 T16 @redbull Peugeot Sport dévoile la 208 T16 Pikes Peak de Sébastien Loeb ! (http://planetemarcus.com/peugeot-sport-devoile-la-208-t16-pikes-peak-de-sebastien-loeb/)

[stefanvv]

They haven't messed around with this bad boy.

Loeb should have a lot of fun.

Peugeot reveals full spec of Loeb's 875bhp, 875kg Pikes Peak T16 - Other news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107020)

T16 is not proper name for this anymore :D

[megadrive]

What about Hyundai WRC drivers for next 2014 season, Hanninen is number one, Paddon, Meek, Atko ?

[Motorsportfun]

^^

Lots of rumours around Neuville in Faro...

[noel157]

Speaking of Hanninen any news on him about the rest of the season?

And in other news Ostberg thinks he can beat Ogier......not so sure Mads.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107023

[Hazza555)]

Speaking of Hanninen any news on him about the rest of the season?

And in other news Ostberg thinks he can beat Ogier......not so sure Mads.

Mads Ostberg insists Sebastien Ogier is not unbeatable - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107023)

At least he is not like Latvala...

[Hazza555)]

Sorry double post

[dimviii]

WRC France: Stage 1 will be Power Stage

iRally | The free independent Rally App for the iPhone, iPad and Android (http://irallylive.com/ir_news.htm?00003797)

[kirungi okwogera]

:D

8) What has been the most frightening moment of your career so far?
MO: “Not sure…. The first that come to my mind is that long stage in Mexico, when I really needed to go to the toilet when I arrived at the stage end. I was bursting!”

World Rally Championship - News - Features - Answers please: Mads Ostberg (http://www.wrc.com/news/features/answers-please-mads-ostberg/?fid=18503)

Off topic but I only know like 15 Swedish songs, all of which are early 2000s rap, even though I don't know Swedish (long story) and his favourite song is the same as mine... weird.

[kirungi okwogera]

..

[Kielder]

It's believed that Atko will be in Finland & Australia at the wheel of a DS3 WRC.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BI5kz4jCQAIRMaj.jpg:large
http://www.almrally.ru/imageModul/foto/37232/37236.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2006/wrc/aus/pl_a_5_atkinson_1.jpg

[Kielder]

Of course, if Chris runs in Finland, it means that Meeke won't be there. :(

(Piece of news a month ago about it: Kris Meeke in line for WRC return with Citroen in Rally Finland (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/106180))

[noel157]

It's believed that Atko will be in Finland & Australia at the wheel of a DS3 WRC.



Is this confirmed, source? Just that "it's believed" doesn't really mean much. I can see Atko in Oz possibly, for obvious reasons.

[catty]

It's believed that Atko will be in Finland & Australia at the wheel of a DS3 WRC.

It is also believed that Atko would struggle to drive out of your way these days....
His pace has been awful on these "one off" drives. Must be bringing plenty of money with him

[Kielder]

Is this confirmed, source? Just that "it's believed" doesn't really mean much. I can see Atko in Oz possibly, for obvious reasons.

This is the "news & rumours" thread, isn't it :) ? I wrote "It's believed" because I can't quote a source. Anyway, Prevot seems to be the source, so...



It is also believed that Atko would struggle to drive out of your way these days....
His pace has been awful on these "one off" drives. Must be bringing plenty of money with him

I also think that Atko will drive again for Citroen more due to what he brings than what he scores.

[Plan9]

Once again Meeke gets overlooked.

[AdvEvo]

I have done lots of racing in my life. I know how it works! But it s a big loss that Autosport looses lots of good talents because of the money.

If youre comming from a family with money or you have friends who will invest lots of money in you. Only then if you have also talent, you might picked up by a factory team. But if you have no money and lots of talent you be sitting at home watching WRC/Racing on you're television set.

It might sounds strange but pay top drivers a lot less and use that money to give talents a chance who have no money at all.

We need some kind of Xfactor/Talents show for autosport. Give new people/talents a chance which don t have rich friends or parents. Only the Skills!!!

[Barreis]

They'll say: drive JWRC. But also need to sell the house for that kind of a program if no sponsorship is on horizont.

[AdvEvo]

They'll say: drive JWRC. But also need to sell the house for that kind of a program if no sponsorship is on horizont.


100% thru!!!!

So if youre a talent also JWRC is without money no option at all!!!

And if you sell the house or put all youre hard earned money into it. The chance a factory team will call is very very little. The chance you end up with nothing or debts are bigger then get a paid factory drive.

So what s left then.

Find drivers with some sort of Talent and a bag full of money. If the bag full off money is bigger then the Talent you have the most chance getting there. It s a big downer for all motorsports for now and the future!

[Plan9]

Do you guys think Meeke has a future competing at all? He has been on the sidelines since the end of 2011. I am concerned we will not see him on a stage again and that troubles me as I think he is one of the most naturally talented drivers at the moment and I do not like seeing so many pay drivers filling up entry lists in WRC cars.

[PLuto]

Do you guys think Meeke has a future competing at all? He has been on the sidelines since the end of 2011. I am concerned we will not see him on a stage again and that troubles me as I think he is one of the most naturally talented drivers at the moment and I do not like seeing so many pay drivers filling up entry lists in WRC cars.

Yes, he has a chance. And we will see him very soon (maybe) ;)

[RAS007]

.... I do not like seeing so many pay drivers filling up entry lists in WRC cars.

+1,000.

[paddocknews]

Don't hate the player. Hate the game.

[Tom206wrc]

What about Benito Guerra ??? :confused:
He wanted Mexico rally to be the first rally of a big program with Citroën but since then we don't hear about him anymore(and don't see him on entrylists neither) :s

[vino_93]

I think he said he will drive in Sardinia.

[noel157]

Yes, he has a chance. And we will see him very soon (maybe) ;)

Very soon.......

[MJW]

Very soon.......
Corsica in the R2 Peugeot 208. Hopefully a works 208T16 later in the year or 2014

[Kielder]

I think he said he will drive in Sardinia.

Yes, he will. The organisation of the rally tweeted it days ago:

Rally ItaliaSardegna ‏@Rally_d_Italia (https://twitter.com/Rally_d_Italia) 19 Apr (https://twitter.com/Rally_d_Italia/status/325166492289212416)
Benito Guerra confirm to drive DS3 Wrc at @Rally_d_Italia (https://twitter.com/Rally_d_Italia) #wrc (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23wrc&src=hash)

[noel157]

Corsica in the R2 Peugeot 208. Hopefully a works 208T16 later in the year or 2014

Yep, that's right, good news.

[gravelman]

Yep, that's right, good news.

Obviously with a new navigator.

[Mintexmemory]

Obviously with a new navigator.

Do you know for certain that Paul Nagle will stay with Craig Breen? If it's not cut and dried I'd have expected Craig to be looking for the new nav (or go back to Dave Moynihan)

[noel157]

Do you know for certain that Paul Nagle will stay with Craig Breen? If it's not cut and dried I'd have expected Craig to be looking for the new nav (or go back to Dave Moynihan)

Would be difficult I imagine leaving Breen mid-season, especially a he has a confirmed programme in place. If not then certainly the likes of Brannigan or a Patterson or even Moynihan. There's no shortage of good co-drivers available to him.

[Mintexmemory]

Would be difficult I imagine leaving Breen mid-season, especially a he has a confirmed programme in place. If not then certainly the likes of Brannigan or a Patterson or even Moynihan. There's no shortage of good co-drivers available to him.

I can see Meeke / Patterson being a good combo if Mr Nagle is committed to CB for the season

[MJW]

I can see Meeke / Patterson being a good combo if Mr Nagle is committed to CB for the season

I thought Chris was going to be Mathew Wilson's co-driver in the R5 Fiesta. A Kris Meeke / Chris Patterson line up would be good.

[Mintexmemory]

I thought Chris was going to be Mathew Wilson's co-driver in the R5 Fiesta. A Kris Meeke / Chris Patterson line up would be good.

He could do Kris in ERC and Malcolm in WRC - don't think there are any clashes. Or am I misunderstanding and that Kris will also be in a WRC2 campaign?

[tolis]

Denis Giraudet is back in Jordan Rally 2013: eWRC-results.com - results Jordan Rally 2013 (http://ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?e=7975)

[rallye-vid]

Google Übersetzer (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallye-magazin.de%2Findex.php%3Fid%3D336%26tx_ttnews%255B tt_news%255D%3D59681)

:rolleyes:

[stefanvv]

Google Übersetzer (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallye-magazin.de%2Findex.php%3Fid%3D336%26tx_ttnews%255B tt_news%255D%3D59681)

:rolleyes:

What??? Lets presume it is good idea, but that coin has flip side - it can make lot of stages just boring... and I think the some of the value of Rallying will be lost.

[noel157]

What??? Lets presume it is good idea, but that coin has flip side - it can make lot of stages just boring... and I think the some of the value of Rallying will be lost.

Would agree. Hirvonen is right, it does sound moronic. An event is fought over 18 (or whatever) stages, not 1- survival of the fittest and fastest. Let's hope FIA do not cave in to such nonsense trying to chase TV viewing figures.

So Capito told Gronholm-
"I told him, 'Ok, then go home. I'll find another young driver who wants to win. Go home to Finland, you buy a used car, pay for your fuel, but in three months no one will remember you. It will give young drivers who love this format. They are champions and earn more money than you, because they are real stars are. "

[AndyRAC]

Utterly ridiculous idea - completely against what Rallying is about.

It would be like deciding the Le Mans 24 Hour race with a 5 minute shoot out..... fastest lap wins......

[Kielder]

It looks so bad :( .

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJuwRAiCAAAhQ0H.jpg:large

There are also plans to revamp QS too. Let's see which is the "improvement" here :rolleyes: .

[pucky54]

I want some of the stuff Capito was smoking, it seems like its very good stuff!!!

[noel157]

Utterly ridiculous idea - completely against what Rallying is about.

It would be like deciding the Le Mans 24 Hour race with a 5 minute shoot out..... fastest lap wins......

Or only track event in Rio is 100m...........madness.

[noel157]

Utterly ridiculous idea - completely against what Rallying is about.

It would be like deciding the Le Mans 24 Hour race with a 5 minute shoot out..... fastest lap wins......

Or only track event in Rio is 100m...........madness.

[Mirek]

That's totally idiotic idea. Hopefully there's some sense left in rally commission and it won't go through...

[Kielder]

That's totally idiotic idea. Hopefully there's some sense left in rally commission and it won't go through...

Just the idea being considered is an example of the times we are living on rallying :rolleyes: . It could be a trial balloon. Let's explode it! :D

[Kielder]

More information about the absurdity: World Rally Championship in radical power stage decider proposal - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107262?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Changes are coming...

[Barreis]

Capito sucks. He's not a rally man.

[tommeke_B]

Showdown auf Power-Stage*:: rallye-magazin.de (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm/nachrichten/news-detail/d/2013/05/08/showdown-auf-power-stage/index.html) They are just making fun of it now. Somebody must act...

[Rallyper]

I´d rather say: go back to the roots. Longer rallies, more stages, more endurance tests. Then the best cars and drivers will be shown. Maybe only 2WD?

[tommeke_B]

I´d rather say: go back to the roots. Longer rallies, more stages, more endurance tests. Then the best cars and drivers will be shown. Maybe only 2WD?
Something similar to R5 but with a bigger restrictor could be good... A WRC-car costs way too much, and the 1.6T generation cars are even more expensive than the older 2.0T WRC cars, in contrary what they wanted us to believe... If you want longer rallies with more/longer stages (like the evolution we've seen the last few years before this year), you will need less expensive cars. Only 2WD isn't a real option I think. Some rally-enthusiasts among us would not mind, but to get the global attention you need something that is spectacular, and if possible at least as powerful as the current WRCars...

[HaCo]

This I could agree with:
- 50% of the points for the full rally except for the last loop of stages.
- 50% of the points for the last loop of stages (at least 100km or more without full service (flex-service ok) with the endurance aspect could be interesting) to have sunday-afternoon-exciting-broadcast. Everyone can start the last loop, even after abandon in the firs 'round'. If all stages of this loop are very short the one after the other, you could change from camera from one stage to the other and reverse with splits, ... and less chance of a dead moment. It could become something very interesting with tracking, youtube live, ... and 50% of points still to win!

However, I don't understand why they look at the format if they can't even manage to broadcast 15' of review on a lot more channels!

[dimviii]

More information about the absurdity: World Rally Championship in radical power stage decider proposal - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107262?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Changes are coming...

so we have a rally that driver ''A'' have won most of stages and has a difference of 1,02min from second driver ''B''
If the driver ''B'' win at power stage will be the driver to win the rally.
wtf?

[wrc1600]

Why not to try simple things first, let say change point's system for Power Stage and award top 10 drivers with points. Realistically only 4-5 top driver are capable of scoring PS points, some good but not top drivers finish rally in top 5 but have no chance to get any bonuses, let them fight for points and PS will be more interesting without shout out nonsense.

[Barreis]

If they want show, they should put power stage as a SS 1 after qualifing. Also they should award it with 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 points. So all drivers just begin the rally and motivation for points is here.

[rallyfun]

I thought only politicians are idiots...

[Andre Oliveira]

This idea is so stupid. We (rally fans) can't aprove and permit those guys kill our sport.

[rallye-vid]

I think i'll make some nice t-shirt for the rally germany which says what i think about Capito :vader: