[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

[bluuford]

World Rally Championship - News - Nokia and the WRC agree ground- breaking new partnership (http://www.wrc.com/news/nokia-and-the-wrc-agree-ground-breaking-new-partnership/?fid=14824)

So, as far as I understand, it will be possible to see the exact location of the competing car on the map with your Nokia? The same map that Ralli Radio is reporting with moving dots and speed? It would be nice :-)

[OldF]

…and also car telemetry data.

[Hartusvuori]

World Rally Championship - News - Nokia and the WRC agree ground- breaking new partnership (http://www.wrc.com/news/nokia-and-the-wrc-agree-ground-breaking-new-partnership/?fid=14824)

So, as far as I understand, it will be possible to see the exact location of the competing car on the map with your Nokia? The same map that Ralli Radio is reporting with moving dots and speed? It would be nice :-)

That would be really nice, but I get a feeling already that it'll cause a few unnecessary heart-attacks, sort of like until now with missing splits.

[N.O.T]

very nice service if its true and it works properly....i am not a fan of mobile phones at all, but with such service i might consider a change....

[GigiGalliNo1]

Confirmation that BrazilWRT will be competing during Rally Australia with their MINI's!! :)

[Barreis]

Nice budget.

[ProRally]

Confirmation that BrazilWRT will be competing during Rally Australia with their MINI's!! :)

Mini's ? For the moment BWRT Has always just run the 1 car.... and it was always the idea to do all events except Sweden and Mexico...

[Barreis]

Airflight can take car anywhere. When looked on WRC as a series it's so weak 'cos it can not use airflights instead of boats as F1 do.

[MR666]

Airflight can take car anywhere. When looked on WRC as a series it's so weak 'cos it can not use airflights instead of boats as F1 do.

One thing that comes to mind is that a WRC car (1200kg minimum) is over double the weight of a F1 (640kg minimum with driver) car.

[rallyfiend]

Airflight can take car anywhere. When looked on WRC as a series it's so weak 'cos it can not use airflights instead of boats as F1 do.

Airfreight can take a car, but it can't affordably take the rest of the equipment. Teams need service areas, recce cars, tools, parts etc. This needs to travel by sea, and that takes time.
This isn't Formula 1 where the teams turn up to ready to go buildings and facilities....

[Barreis]

I asked kids if they know who're Hirvonen and Latvala. They told me they're kind of TOILET PAPER!!!

[cali]

I asked kids if they know who're Hirvonen and Latvala. They told me they're kind of TOILET PAPER!!!

Another quality post! Keep on going ...

[bluuford]

I asked kids if they know who're Hirvonen and Latvala. They told me they're kind of TOILET PAPER!!!

Was in rumour or news?
No need to double post your old news ;-)

[RS]

Hopefully they will also make organisers use a proper stage for shakedown similar to what rally will be run on, not part of a super special that has no similarities to what rally will be run on!!

They are going to be run in a football stadium because it is good for the fans.

[Tomi]

I asked kids if they know who're Hirvonen and Latvala. They told me they're kind of TOILET PAPER!!!

WOW, this means you are not the only brain dead over there, lets hope you all someday get familiar with toilet paper too, or at least learn to read what's on the label.

[Barreis]

Let we all hope that Seb.Loeb will wipe his ass with that Finn's toilet paper. :D

[jbmarcus21]

#F1 #WRC Ken Block switch to F1 with Team Monster F1 ??? News Rallyes 2011 (http://bit.ly/hwFjwC)

[Motorsportfun]

#F1 #WRC Ken Block switch to F1 with Team Monster F1 ??? News Rallyes 2011 (http://bit.ly/hwFjwC)

If Block goes F1 racing, I'll be next Pope! :D

[tfp]

If Block goes F1 racing, I'll be next Pope! :D

Haha:-) Would the monster team have that kind of budget?

[ProRally]

Airfreight can take a car, but it can't affordably take the rest of the equipment. Teams need service areas, recce cars, tools, parts etc. This needs to travel by sea, and that takes time.
This isn't Formula 1 where the teams turn up to ready to go buildings and facilities....

F1 teams send about 9.000kg of airfreight to the events, some teams more some teams less...
Ford for example on the long haul send ALL the Fiesta WRC and spares by air, don't know the exact kg, but for sure more then 9.000kg !!!
As mentioned above the 'normal stuff' (tools, jacks, tables and chairs, tents, barriers, recce cars) are send by sea to long haul events which makes more economical sense.
But talking to some of the team who does the airfreight for WRC, IF 1 more team would join in it would/could be feasible to charter a dedicated freighter plane to send the cars to the long haul events. The nr of long haul in WRC is much lower then in F1 and F1 send also lot more of TV gear around to...

[ProRally]

The WRC TV gear is already several 10s of tons send by airfreight to the long haul events.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/cimg2696d.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/21/cimg2697h.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/34/cimg2698f.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/151/cimg2699c.jpg/

This was Argentina few weeks ago, and just a fraction of the stuff they take/bring (otherwise to many pictures :D ) ... to put things in perspective ...

[vkangas]

Volkswagen will test new drivers in five WRC events (starting Finland) this season. The car used will be Škoda Fabia S2000.

MaxRally | News | Volkswagen’s X Factor show gets underway in Finland (http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/volkswagens_x_factor_show_gets_underway_in_finland/)

[Mirek]

Last week I heard from several sources that Fabia 1.6T development was stopped. Don't know if it's true but You know that there's no smoke without a fire...

[alleskids]

It is normal that Volkswagen is taken over the devellopment of the 1.6T, collecting all the data and engines and cars Skoda has collected. But it is also smart to have a 1.6Turbo Fabia, for 2012, for IRC purpose use, because the IRC wil have to switch from 2.0A to 1.6T, and Skoda is the best team to challange in IRC

[Mirek]

In the moment I doubt they will do IRC or any other championship...

[alleskids]

not even a Skoda 1.6T in privateer hands in IRC?
Is there any insight in the cours that the IRC will folow, will they stick to 2.0A even if all the cars will be outdated?

[Pinto]

#F1 #WRC Ken Block switch to F1 with Team Monster F1 ??? News Rallyes 2011 (http://bit.ly/hwFjwC)

ken is to drive a Pirelli test car later in the year id say its only a promo run

[Plan9]

ken is to drive a Pirelli test car later in the year id say its only a promo run

I hope he can take some lessons from the F1 car and apply them to his tarmac driving.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Is this another story like Solberg doing Peaks, Loeb doing Le Mans bla bla bla?

[Mirek]

Sir, Sebastien Loeb finished Le Mans on second place overal. That's no stunt but a reasonable sporting achievement!

[N.O.T]

I hope he can take some lessons from the F1 car and apply them to his tarmac driving.

then he can be as good as icecube....

oh wait....

[jbmarcus21]

#WRC Marcus Grönholm co-driver Timo Rautiainen pacenotes finnish-english Les Notes Finnois - Anglais de Timo Rautiainen (http://bit.ly/k7y4Ul)

[Barreis]

Very nice. Can you PLEASE as a Frenchman write Seb.Loeb's notes. PLEASE.

[jbmarcus21]

Timo gives me his explication about pacenotes.. but for Loeb i dont know sorry ;)

[AP-Racing]

http://www.rallylife.cz/data/imgs/0008351l.jpg

[focus206]

http://www.rallylife.cz/data/imgs/0008351l.jpg
What is it??? :eek:

[Mirek]

Photoshop from Škoda Vision D concept :)

It will never happen unfortunately...

[pantealex]

What is it??? :eek:
photoshop!

[focus206]

photoshop!
too bad :(

[vkangas]

Ketomaa's manager Kim Vatanen has told that Prodrive contacted them and told it's likely they are not able to finish Ketomaa's car for Finland.

This was unexpected news and Vatanen said they will have to do their decision in one week. They are doing everything to gather the budget and get a car. Ford is one option and Vatanen has been negotiating with Malcom Wilson.

[GigiGalliNo1]

I don't think it's photoshop because if you look at the tv screen in the back ground it's a road version of this concept... See similar grill shape??

[Mirek]

It is photoshop, believe me and it is done from a photo of concept car called Vision D ;)

Here is photo from Geneve Auto Show (the photoshop is probably made of photo from Brno auto show): http://img.auto.cz/news/img/galleries/2011-09/_202_4d6c989dc81e9.jpg

[Francis44]

I had my heart stopped for a second there.

[focus206]

There are any news about Suzuki? Are they going to do something with the new Swift or they are "going green" like Mitsubishi?

[GigiGalliNo1]

It is photoshop, believe me and it is done from a photo of concept car called Vision D ;)

Here is photo from Geneve Auto Show (the photoshop is probably made of photo from Brno auto show): http://img.auto.cz/news/img/galleries/2011-09/_202_4d6c989dc81e9.jpg

grrrrr.... What ever. haha :p

[Plan9]

What do you guys think about the dutch pay drivers we now have in the WRC. I really like Van Merkstejin livery but i'm not sure they have much of a future. By the way is the Van Merstejin team liked with the ICE1 or Petter Solberg ventures?

[AndyRAC]

Nothing wrong with pay drivers, there have always been pay drivers. The ‘problem’ nowadays is that there are so few factory teams/ drivers – that the pay drivers are seeded in the top 10-15, whereas in years gone by it would be in 30 - 40’s.

[N.O.T]

I just had a great idea and didn't want to make a new thread about it..

I think the power stage of each rally should count separate for each individual class, at least for the FIA official championships, so for example WRC drivers get 3-2-1 points for the first 3 places but also the SWRC guys get 3-2-1 points for their places, PWRC also ects.....That way we see almsot every driver going flat out on that one, not just the big league..

Ain't I the best thing that happened to modern society or what ??

[GigiGalliNo1]

I think that is a good idea. :)

[focus206]

yes, not bad :)

[Maui J.]

I just had a great idea and didn't want to make a new thread about it..

I think the power stage of each rally should count separate for each individual class, at least for the FIA official championships, so for example WRC drivers get 3-2-1 points for the first 3 places but also the SWRC guys get 3-2-1 points for their places, PWRC also ects.....That way we see almsot every driver going flat out on that one, not just the big league..

Ain't I the best thing that happened to modern society or what ??

How about this idea then.
As shakedown times from 2012 will give drivers their choice of road position for day 1 , I think the final stage of day 1 & 2 should work the same way. If you have the fastest time on the final stage of the day, you then have first choice of your start position for next day. Then of course the power stage at the end of day 3 has the bonus points.

So basically there would be 4 power stages. Shakedown (for road position on day 1), final stage of day 1 (for road position on day 2), final stage of day 2 (for road position on day 3, final stage of day 3 (for bonus points).
This should stop the tactics that seem to be happening on every gravel rally these days.

[mm1]

This would be perfect, but FIA beeing FIA, will probably stick to just shakedown for 1st day start order.

[Motorsportfun]

Nothing wrong with pay drivers, there have always been pay drivers. The ‘problem’ nowadays is that there are so few factory teams/ drivers – that the pay drivers are seeded in the top 10-15, whereas in years gone by it would be in 30 - 40’s.

Need some time to come back to the old days. With Mini coming back (maybe with a good "B" team), VW also making his comeback... probably Saab too (I'll write something Long told me), will be again a great WRC! The more, the merrier! :)

I guess that if WRC will go to Brazil, the BWRT will put a 2nd car (Atkinson? Ketomaa?), same story for a chinese round... these new markets can give the opportunity to good drivers to arrange big programmes! Look at F1: coming to ME, many teams gained new sponsorships, etc.

[N.O.T]

How about this idea then.
As shakedown times from 2012 will give drivers their choice of road position for day 1 , I think the final stage of day 1 & 2 should work the same way. If you have the fastest time on the final stage of the day, you then have first choice of your start position for next day. Then of course the power stage at the end of day 3 has the bonus points.

So basically there would be 4 power stages. Shakedown (for road position on day 1), final stage of day 1 (for road position on day 2), final stage of day 2 (for road position on day 3, final stage of day 3 (for bonus points).
This should stop the tactics that seem to be happening on every gravel rally these days.

No, because the starting order problem is solved by reversing the standings at the end of the day.

[BleAivano]

How about this idea then.
As shakedown times from 2012 will give drivers their choice of road position for day 1 , I think the final stage of day 1 & 2 should work the same way. If you have the fastest time on the final stage of the day, you then have first choice of your start position for next day. Then of course the power stage at the end of day 3 has the bonus points.

So basically there would be 4 power stages. Shakedown (for road position on day 1), final stage of day 1 (for road position on day 2), final stage of day 2 (for road position on day 3, final stage of day 3 (for bonus points).
This should stop the tactics that seem to be happening on every gravel rally these days.

from what i understand the FIA have a suggestion that is somewhat opposite of yours meaning that the sd winner will choose first on d1 but for d2 and and d3 (& possible d4) the slowest driver from D1
will get to choose road positions first on day 2 and so on.

[MikeD]

What do you guys think about the dutch pay drivers we now have in the WRC. I really like Van Merkstejin livery but i'm not sure they have much of a future. By the way is the Van Merstejin team liked with the ICE1 or Petter Solberg ventures?

The 3 teams have their cars run/prepared by PH-Sport/Citroën Technologies, so in a way they are the same team.

[focus206]

Damn it, lack of budget for Ostberg? :(
World Rally Championship - News - Ostberg lacking funds for full WRC bid (http://www.wrc.com/news/ostberg-lacking-funds-for-full-wrc-bid/?fid=14939)

[Barreis]

He has lot of money but not for a bad car.

[Francis44]

This might be a good move by Otsberg, Henning Solberg did the same before Argentina and now finaly he has a Fiesta WRC capable of recaching the end withouth breaking itself in every way possible. This might put Malcolm in a stressfull mood because costumers may leave leaving Ford boneless for the baby Finns.

[Barreis]

Malcolm doesn't care. Every year there will be a few maniacs who'll hire the car 'cos they can not live without that. Like a drug.

[Leon]

I guess that if WRC will go to Brazil, the BWRT will put a 2nd car (Atkinson? Ketomaa?), same story for a chinese round... these new markets can give the opportunity to good drivers to arrange big programmes! Look at F1: coming to ME, many teams gained new sponsorships, etc.[/QUOTE]

Before getting too excited about the new teams coming to the WRC, I will be glad if there were any assurances about the present 2 teams remaining in the sport......

For Ford there were some comments from the company' s representative at the beggining of the year about how important is to win at least the manufacturer championship otherwise ....and also if Citroen which is used to win all the time starts losing will remain in the sport...

[GigiGalliNo1]

I cannot see SAAB out of all the manufacturers that could enter the WRC actually enter the WRC. There have been stories in the media about endless amounts of times they've stopped production in Sweden, who is investing this week in SAAB and who is pulling out of the investment ie Russia. Can we please put an end to using SAAB as an entry and look else where?!

[nzabevAMSM]

I cannot see SAAB out of all the manufacturers that could enter the WRC actually enter the WRC. There have been stories in the media about endless amounts of times they've stopped production in Sweden, who is investing this week in SAAB and who is pulling out of the investment ie Russia. Can we please put an end to using SAAB as an entry and look else where?!

Agree, forget SAAB.

[Viking]

Henning Solberg to race in Hell, with a...Citroen!

ERC24 - European Rallycross Championship (http://www.erc24.com/?Show=News&ID=1897)

[focus206]

Henning Solberg to race in Hell, with a...Citroen!

ERC24 - European Rallycross Championship (http://www.erc24.com/?Show=News&ID=1897)

Henning said that he has the budget for the 2012 season too, but he didn't say which car he will use, right? Or I am wrong?

[Barreis]

Go.
World Rally Championship - News - M-Sport to open its doors to rally fans (http://www.wrc.com/news/m-sport-to-open-its-doors-to-rally-fans/?fid=14941)

[Barreis]

Ford evaluating WTCC comeback - WTCC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92531)

[Bobcat]

Henning Solberg to race in Hell, with a...Citroen!

ERC24 - European Rallycross Championship (http://www.erc24.com/?Show=News&ID=1897)
Yeah just because Henning's all-new Fiesta is not ready yet.

[Daniel]

I cannot see SAAB out of all the manufacturers that could enter the WRC actually enter the WRC. There have been stories in the media about endless amounts of times they've stopped production in Sweden, who is investing this week in SAAB and who is pulling out of the investment ie Russia. Can we please put an end to using SAAB as an entry and look else where?!

Yes, it was written today that they don't have enough money to pay their workers this week.....

[GigiGalliNo1]

Again? Really?!

;)

[Motorsportfun]

Yes, it was written today that they don't have enough money to pay their workers this week.....

But if the Chinese operation goes well... :)

[RS]

But if the Chinese operation goes well... :)

I was listening to a story on the radio yesterday morning which said the "Chinese investment" was just some Chinese dealer network who had paid for a couple of thousand cars up front?

[Motorsportfun]

I was listening to a story on the radio yesterday morning which said the "Chinese investment" was just some Chinese dealer network who had paid for a couple of thousand cars up front?

It's a refinancial operation, probably with a part of the production moved to China. The details are unknow... =(

[OldF]

Already a two-day-old news bur I’ve not seen any comments about this on the forum. This must be good news for South African rally fans. I wouldn’t mind to see this rally in WRC.

MaxRally | News | WRC looks to Africa (http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/wrc_looks_to_africa/)

Sasol rally

YouTube - ‪Sasol Rally Afternoon Day 1‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BUKp2WP_V0&feature=related)

YouTube - ‪Sasol Rally Friday SS 3‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPSu1b2KsuY)

YouTube - ‪Sasol Rally SS 12 & 13 Action‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oTHRT83Fsw&feature=related)

YouTube - ‪Sasol Rally Mpumalang Nelspruit Overview‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot9am9FkbDY) (17 min)

[Barreis]

Agree. :)

[Motorsportfun]

Well, there's Sasol involved... so maybe a good sponsor to catch!

[Zeakiwi]

South Africa would be one of the preferred African places for a wrc round, paired with Argentina perhaps.

[Barreis]

:)

[oph]

yfrog Photo : http://yfrog.com/gypzohmj Shared by ShaneWilliams_7 (http://yfrog.com/gypzohmj)

[pettersolberg29]

yfrog Photo : http://yfrog.com/gypzohmj Shared by ShaneWilliams_7 (http://yfrog.com/gypzohmj)

Just about to post that myself. Petter talking to VW? Wouldnt be a major surprise I dont think.

[AndyRAC]

Just about to post that myself. Petter talking to VW? Wouldnt be a major surprise I dont think.

Is that at the Nurburgring 24 Hours?? If so, VW have 3 Factory Golf 'Prototypes' with 4WD & 400-500+BHP...!!!! And cost in the region of £250,000 for one car, for one race. :eek:

[pettersolberg29]

Yeah - bit more info and pictures at Se connecter | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/volkswagenmotorsport)

[MartijnS]

Ford Testing Livery, pretty cool :D

Limited Edition test livery. Interesting use of matt and glo... on Twitpic (http://twitpic.com/5hl9ua)

[cali]

Ford Testing Livery, pretty cool :D

Limited Edition test livery. Interesting use of matt and glo... on Twitpic (http://twitpic.com/5hl9ua)
Very cool livery indeed

[AndyRAC]

It does look good - though I've seen it before on the Audi R18 in pre season tests.

[Barreis]

The only good thing on the car.

[Leon]

Ford Testing Livery, pretty cool :D

Limited Edition test livery. Interesting use of matt and glo... on Twitpic (http://twitpic.com/5hl9ua)

So they finally discover the problem for not getting wins and championships.....

[N.O.T]

very very nice test livery.....they should use the matt black as the base colour on their official cars.

[makinen_fan]

finally a nice colour scheme for the Fords. During the last couple of years (last generations Focus and Fiesta) their colours were not that nice, private Fords were much nicer imo.

[ZequeArgentina]

Not very wise to use black, and specially gloss black, in rallies with hot weather.
a lot of timesdrivers end specials exhausted becausde of the heat inside the car, having a black car only worsen the things!

No problem for Sweden or Monte, or low temperatureones, but not for the whole season

[Barreis]

Don't worry, they know they can not beat citroens on tarmac so they need something in what they can beat them - livery. :D

[focus206]

Don't worry, they know they can not beat citroens on tarmac so they need something in what they can beat them - livery. :D
Oh well, being World Rally Livery Champions is not bad, at least they would finally win a title :D

[Barreis]

Or to win something. :D

[turves]

Oh well, being World Rally Livery Champions is not bad, at least they would finally win a title :D

Wouldn't they merely be World Rally (Testing) Livery Champions...?

[jbmarcus21]

Latvala tested Fiesta Wrc Black Limited Edition this week in France Tarmac, i was there for the 2nd day ! ...

Here you can find my video Test Days Tarmac - Fiesta Wrc Black Edition - JM.Latvala (http://bit.ly/j8rUkl)

[makinen_fan]

Latvala tested Fiesta Wrc Black Limited Edition this week in France Tarmac, i was there for the 2nd day ! ...

Here you can find my video Test Days Tarmac - Fiesta Wrc Black Edition - JM.Latvala (http://bit.ly/j8rUkl)

really nice vid, thanks!

[MSP AU]

Thank you, nice to hear the car instead of only music.

[jbmarcus21]

yes better without music ;)

So the youtube link to see more easier YouTube - ‪Test Days Jari-Matti Latvala France 2011 (Ford Fiesta Wrc Black Limited Edition)‬‏ (http://youtu.be/DH3okOcJGII) ;)

[alleskids]

Peter van Merksteijn sr. will not take part in the WRC Rallye Deutschland next August. Erwin Mombaerts will replace Eddy Chevaillier as co-driver for Peter jr. during the period that Eddy Chevaillier is recovering from his back injury sustained in the Acropolis Rally. As Mombaerts is the regular co-driver for Peter sr. in the Citroën DS3 WRC, the Van Merksteijn Motorsport owner has decided to skip the Trier based rally to let his son Peter jr. have the benefit from the experience of Erwin. The planned entry for the Rallye Deutschland will be replaced with a to be decided other WRC round this year, depending on the pace of recovery of Eddy Chevaillier

Peter sr. to skip Rallye Deutschland|Latest Posts in (http://wrc.vm-motorsport.nl/Blog/tabid/65/PostID/26/Peter-sr-to-skip-Rallye-Deutschland.aspx)

[Hartusvuori]

WRC.com reveals Daniel Oliveira's past in a Brasilian death metal band Ungodly. I find this amusing. The track they link to is hardly mediocre, midtempo metal, safe to say the least and not really death metal at any part. But I still find it funny that Oliveira's band has opened for Slayer. For a guy who is hardly a guitar talent or a driver talent, he has managed to do a lot.

World Rally Championship - News - Features - Oliveira's Ungodly past (http://www.wrc.com/news/features/oliveiras-ungodly-past/?fid=14965)

[OldF]

This would be nice.

“Rally GB considers Harrogate move”

“The stages consist of fast and flowing gravel, opening up the possibility of a return to the legendary Kielder stages in Cumbria.”

MaxRally | News | Rally GB considers Harrogate move (http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/rally_gb_considers_harrogate_move/)

[Viridian Black]

This would be nice.

“Rally GB considers Harrogate move”

“The stages consist of fast and flowing gravel, opening up the possibility of a return to the legendary Kielder stages in Cumbria.”

MaxRally | News | Rally GB considers Harrogate move (http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/rally_gb_considers_harrogate_move/)

This would be a dream. Hopefully consider the Yorkshire Forest stages as well

[Plan9]

Has anyone on here been to goodwood this year? if you would you mind posting any pics of the Mini WRC if you have them. It would be greatly appreciated.

[dimviii]

Has anyone on here been to goodwood this year? if you would you mind posting any pics of the Mini WRC if you have them. It would be greatly appreciated.

plenty of mini photos here
Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket (http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss287/vaggelissotirchos/Goodwood%20Festival%20of%20Speed%202011/?albumview=slideshow)

[alleskids]

Next week M-Sport wil reveil details about the Fiesta Regional Rally Car. The S1600T RCC will much like the Fiesta S2000, with a smaller wing then the WRCar. And probarly a smaller restrictor (30mm >33mm) ? Patrick Snijers claimed that his Mini Countryman S1600T had less hp. so his version was a RCC ?

[OldF]

Basically it’s the same car as the WRC Fiesta except smaller rear wing, different front buffer, heavier fly wheel, different front brakes and a smaller restrictor which is 30 mm diameter at the moment.

I don’t know if the fly wheel is actually different in WRC and RCC because it would be a quite big job to replace the fly wheel when switching between WRC and RCC.

Ford would be then the first brand with both S2000 NA and S1600T cars.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Ford would be then the first brand with both S2000 NA and S1600T cars.

Everyone knew it would be :D

[Plan9]

plenty of mini photos here
Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket (http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss287/vaggelissotirchos/Goodwood%20Festival%20of%20Speed%202011/?albumview=slideshow)

Very good pictures. Do you know if there is any footage of Meeke driving? what i saw of rally italy was not enough.

[Plan9]

A few weeks ago Iw as watching the news and there was a story about the rally zn getting more funding and keeping its base in Auckland city. It was also interesting was that Hayden Paddon was interviewed and he said it may be possible for him to drive a round of the wrc next year in a full spec wrc car. what made this story even more interesting was that clips of the mini testing were also shown....

[Barreis]

Good for him.

[Barreis]

Markko Martin to enter Rally Estonia - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92883)

[Barreis]

Longer route for Monte Carlo Rally in 2012 as it returns to World Rally Championship - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92891)

[Red bull]

WRC.com reveals Daniel Oliveira's past in a Brasilian death metal band Ungodly. I find this amusing. The track they link to is hardly mediocre, midtempo metal, safe to say the least and not really death metal at any part. But I still find it funny that Oliveira's band has opened for Slayer. For a guy who is hardly a guitar talent or a driver talent, he has managed to do a lot.

World Rally Championship - News - Features - Oliveira's Ungodly past (http://www.wrc.com/news/features/oliveiras-ungodly-past/?fid=14965)
that is a pure devil worshiping band{lucifer,satan}and i dont know how oliveira managed to leave the cult and join the wrc,maybe he wants to recruit more members from the rally fans.

[Red bull]

Oliveira's band is a pure devil worshiping band{lucifer,satan}name it,i wonder if there are other wrc driver's in the cult,you can tell by the signs in their photo.

[N.O.T]

LOL...well with his driving skills i think he must use different ways of conversion...LOL

[Barreis]

Mini WRC team withdraws from Rally Estonia due to testing damage - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93069)

[Plan9]

Mini WRC team withdraws from Rally Estonia due to testing damage - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93069)
I am very disappointed to read this, especially as Meeke is one of my favourite drivers. Does anyone know if he was to blame for this or was it another freak error that we saw in Italy?

[Messi]

It was a huge rock hidden in the bushes just a couple of inches from the road. If Meeke didn´t hit it, Sordo would have later on.

[OldF]

Petter lost on of his sponsor, which will jeopardise the last rally of the season.

Google translated (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=fi&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mtv3.fi%2Furheilu%2Fralli%2Fuut iset.shtml%2F2011%2F07%2F1360882%2Fsponsorin-menetys-narastaa-solbergia)

[focus206]

Petter lost on of his sponsor, which will jeopardise the last rally of the season.

Google translated (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=fi&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mtv3.fi%2Furheilu%2Fralli%2Fuut iset.shtml%2F2011%2F07%2F1360882%2Fsponsorin-menetys-narastaa-solbergia)
If I understood right, he also said that in 2012 he will not run his team... right?

[OldF]

If I understood right, he also said that in 2012 he will not run his team... right?

Correct.

“I wont continue as privateer next year. It’s so damn hard.”

[GigiGalliNo1]

I already wrote that Petter will/might not compete in WRC next year a few days ago in another thread

[Motorsportfun]

Petter will go to VW, I think...

[pantealex]

Petter will go to VW, I think...

but VW will start 2013
so what is Petter driving 2012?
Test with Polo WRC and race with Fabia S2000, I don´t think so!

[MJW]

but VW will start 2013
so what is Petter driving 2012?
Test with Polo WRC and race with Fabia S2000, I don´t think so!
I wouldnt rule that out......................

[N.O.T]

2013 is a bit late for solberg....38 is a good age for retirement.

[OldF]

Hannu Mikkola won his world championship at an age of 41.

[N.O.T]

different era, almost different sport.

[Tomi]

Hannu Mikkola won his world championship at an age of 41.

Totally different thing

[OldF]

different era, almost different sport.

Yes, with B-group cars and longer rallies.

[Josti]

Carlos Sainz was 42/43 when he retired, not so much a different era.

Who cares about age, as long as he's valuable.

[Barreis]

+1

[N.O.T]

of course i can see Loeb winning a championship at the age of 41.... :D

[N.O.T]

Carlos Sainz was 42/43 when he retired, not so much a different era.

Who cares about age, as long as he's valuable.

that would be a lot sooner without telefonica

[Josti]

that would be a lot sooner without telefonica

Not relevant. He was valuable, that's the point.

[OldF]

of course i can see Loeb winning a championship at the age of 41.... :D

It’s also of course an individual thing. If I don’t recall it completely wrong, it was Hannu Mikkola that said the first thing affecting the driving when getting elder is the vision in dark. That’s what I’ve also experienced my self. I’m using glasses but it isn’t the same anymore.

[Tomi]

Not relevant. He was valuable, that's the point. Yes but he did have skills that was valuable for the team, very good to set up cars etc. No matter how good dancer you are it does not help the team so much.

[Oceacimbize]

What necessary phrase... super, excellent idea beach tent camping (http://beachtentcamping.info/)

[Plan9]

what sponsors does Kimi Raikkonen have now, I don't see Red Bull on his car at all now (why?).

[N.O.T]

no reason for anyone to support him now....was a good publicity trick last year.

[Plan9]

+1 I like the livery of his car last year. I was shocked by how quickly Kimi was dumped by Red Bull though. But I guess that's what you get if you jump into a WRC car to early and fail to make the most of things...

[sollitt]

It’s also of course an individual thing. If I don’t recall it completely wrong, it was Hannu Mikkola that said the first thing affecting the driving when getting elder is the vision in dark. That’s what I’ve also experienced my self. I’m using glasses but it isn’t the same anymore.
This is exactly true. But it's not only in the dark that vision is affected but when it is most noticeable.

[6789]

It's hard to sell Red Bull when the logo is upside down.. Lol. He has been driving better this year but!

[pantealex]

Kimi has been wearing RedBull hat/cap in every Rally this year, just look pictures/videos of him!

[Barreis]

http://www.rallye-deutschland.de/download/downloadsavefile.php?PHPSESSID=1f02d4a9e45aa5415be 9f0cde360e062&pfad=/home/rallyede/public_html/v2/images//teilnehmer/teilnehmerliste/&datei=rallye_deutschland-110721-0164.pdf

[N.O.T]

i think that link should go in the official germany thread.....

[dimviii]

Google PYeklada (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=cs&sl=cs&tl=en&u=http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php%3Fid%3D17399)

[mousti]

I don't think Kimi is dumped by RedBull otherwise he wouldn't wear hats with RedBull on it ;) ..

PantaAlex was already saying that hehe :D

[Xsara Fan]

I don't think Kimi is dumped by RedBull otherwise he wouldn't wear hats with RedBull on it ;) ..

PantaAlex was already saying that hehe :D

Red Bull hat or helmet is not a full sponsorship. Red Bull pay 2000 euros for this and that's all :)

[Tomi]

Red Bull hat or helmet is not a full sponsorship. Red Bull pay 2000 euros for this and that's all :)

So from where do you get theese hat's, seriously dont you think it depends who wear the hat has something to do with how much they pay, if it would be only 2000€ im sure the hat would be different labeled?

[Barreis]

You meant 2 millions.

[N.O.T]

why would they give an unemployed person more than 2000 euros ???

[mousti]

Red Bull hat or helmet is not a full sponsorship. Red Bull pay 2000 euros for this and that's all :)
So he isn't dumped by RedBull like someone says he's still sponsored I never claimed he has full sponsorship..

[clem126]

He is still a RedBull athlete but his WRC season isnt sponsored by RedBull

[BleAivano]

just heard on the radio sportnews that the Swedish rally seems to be safe for another three years.
2012 it will be held on February 9-12 and on of the three legs will be held in Norway.

[HaCo]

Peugeot and Skoda are working with FIA to introduce new category in 2012. They want an S2000 close to 'home' car with 1.6T motor and for only 100K EUR.
Sounds very promising!

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/index.php?id=d15&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=43800&cHash=76f05d8464

[RICARDO75]

Peugeot and Skoda are working with FIA to introduce new category in 2012. They want an S2000 close to 'home' car with 1.6T motor and for only 100K EUR.
Sounds very promising!

Skoda und Peugeot planen Zukunft*::*rallye-magazin.de (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/index.php?id=d15&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=43800&cHash=76f05d8464)

I think it's not a new S2000, but a new class like R4.
It's Quesnel wish of puting a Citroën DS3 R3 with 4WD.

There is also a rumor that Peugeot could have the new 208 in the next summer in this new class.

[OldF]

Has this any connection with this?


http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii284/OkdF/FIAlaunchesnewturbocarformula.jpg

gpweek (http://mag.gpweek.com/?iid=49492) (page 39)

This was also on Maxrally couple days ago.

MaxRally | News | Cheaper Super 2000 category planned (http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/cheaper_super_2000_category_planned/)

[vkangas]

Jarmo Mahonen said today in Finnish rally radio that in about two years all WRC stages are broadcasted live on Internet for HC fans. The work for this is surrently under way. Nice!

[6789]

Yes!!

[Barreis]

:) :) :)

[tfp]

A step in the right direction! But Petter retiring? A step backwards IMO!

[Motorsportfun]

Jarmo Mahonen said today in Finnish rally radio that in about two years all WRC stages are broadcasted live on Internet for HC fans. The work for this is surrently under way. Nice!

I know also that a "test" will be done in France during Rallye d'Alsace... he confirmed anything about that?

[vkangas]

I know also that a "test" will be done in France during Rallye d'Alsace... he confirmed anything about that?
Sorry, no info about that.

[OldF]

Jarmo Mahonen said today in Finnish rally radio that in about two years all WRC stages are broadcasted live on Internet for HC fans. The work for this is surrently under way. Nice!

It would be really nice if it would be free.

[vkangas]

Mahonen @ same Finnish rally radio broadcast: Testing regulations will be loosened in the close future.

[vkangas]

More spam...this is really informative bradcast but unfortunately it's only in finnish.
Ralli-ilta 26.7.2011 | Teemaillat | Toista | YLE Areena | yle.fi (http://areena.yle.fi/audio/1311702267022)

Mahonen: FIA has serious negotations going on with two major car manufacturers. These two have also their own WRC pre-projects going.http://areena.yle.fi/audio/1311702267022

[mousti]

It would be really nice if it would be free.
That's maybe the most important thing about this. Don't want it be something PPV alike :-/

[Plan9]

what dort of financial shape is the Mini WRC team in?

[Mise]

More spam...this is really informative bradcast but unfortunately it's only in finnish.
Ralli-ilta 26.7.2011 | Teemaillat | Toista | YLE Areena | yle.fi (http://areena.yle.fi/audio/1311702267022)

Mahonen: FIA has serious negotations going on with two major car manufacturers. These two have also their own WRC pre-projects going.http://areena.yle.fi/audio/1311702267022

Let the speculation begin.
I'll hope Toyota is one of them.

[Miika]

Toyota and a certain Italian manufacturer would be more than welcomed.

[COD]

Mahonen @ same Finnish rally radio broadcast: Testing regulations will be loosened in the close future.

Todt proposed this for F1, so Mahonen the a**licker was quick to respond :)

[N.O.T]

one is the WV the other is a mystery....

[MJW]

my guess is Toyota.

[DonJippo]

one is the WV the other is a mystery....

He meant two new factories VW is already on it's way in to WRC.

[DonJippo]

one is the WV the other is a mystery....

No he meant two new factories, VW is already on it's way in to WRC.

[AndyRAC]

Toyota would be nice, however as I'm also a Sportscar fan, that seems more likely at the moment - as far as Japan are concerned. TTE in Cologne may feel different.

[mm1]

Don`t forget that there were recent rumours about Subaru, which is Toyota owned. The other manu could be Fiat/Saab (which I seriously doubt).

[MJW]

Toyota would be nice, however as I'm also a Sportscar fan, that seems more likely at the moment - as far as Japan are concerned. TTE in Cologne may feel different.
I think Toyota are large enough to do both Sportscars and WRC. Rumours keep suggesting Subaru to WTCC. TOYOTA have had a torrid time of late with bad publicity, what best but to launch a hi tech hybrid type Sportscar programme and a WRC (especially if that is going more long distance and back to Africa) I think it would be a high stakes game for Subaru to come back, last few years were not good for them and even in UK whilst in their last year or so rallying the marketing people we pushing Legacy estate for horse shows rather than the mid 90's blue and yellow Colin fanboys.

[focus206]

Well, there are voices on Toyota, Subaru and Saab. But the first 2 (probably) won't join the WRC together... so maybe it's Saab + Toyota or Subaru?
About FIAT, to me it's impossible that they join WRC.

[makinen_fan]

what car can Saab in their range enter in the WRC?
hope though that Italian manufacturer comes back in the WRC, and not two desperate manufacturers (like Hyundai and seat in the early WRC days)

[rage82]

I've already started to dream about this holidays with cold beers and friends in front of the TV watching rally all day long :)

[Josti]

I would've hoped Renault to be one of them (they have a "pre-WRC project" going on with the Megane RS), but I'm not sure how far they're commiting to F1, maybe solely as an engine supplier in the future, in mind of a possible Lotus takeover.

Saab sounds unlikely, they're in such bad shape right now. Maybe after a big Russian or Chinese investment, but otherwise no. Subaru is possible, but I would prefer Toyota; a big VW rival. Combined with Bridgestone maybe?

Fiat re-entering would be a dream come true, the Italians have been absent for too long.

[Motorsportfun]

RENAULT-NISSAN! :D

New Clio is coming in 2013, I think...

[J.Lindstroem]

Well, there are voices on Toyota, Subaru and Saab. But the first 2 (probably) won't join the WRC together... so maybe it's Saab + Toyota or Subaru?
About FIAT, to me it's impossible that they join WRC.

Saab is not possible. They cannot even pay the salaries for the workers! Why would they focus on Wrc when they can't even afford one of the most basic things of all?

[AndyRAC]

I would've hoped Renault to be one of them (they have a "pre-WRC project" going on with the Megane RS), but I'm not sure how far they're commiting to F1, maybe solely as an engine supplier in the future, in mind of a possible Lotus takeover.

Saab sounds unlikely, they're in such bad shape right now. Maybe after a big Russian or Chinese investment, but otherwise no. Subaru is possible, but I would prefer Toyota; a big VW rival. Combined with Bridgestone maybe?

Fiat re-entering would be a dream come true, the Italians have been absent for too long.

Yes, it would be great to see the Italians back in the WRC - however, it seems as if the FIAT board are swayed by Luca Di Montezemelo - and as such, all money/resources goes to F1/Ferrari.
A shame there is no FIAT,Alfa or Lancia in top line Motorsport....

[Barreis]

+1

[N.O.T]

Yes, it would be great to see the Italians back in the WRC - however, it seems as if the FIAT board are swayed by Luca Di Montezemelo - and as such, all money/resources goes to F1/Ferrari.
A shame there is no FIAT,Alfa or Lancia in top line Motorsport....

a brera/giulletta even mito rally car would look delicious

[focus206]

Saab is not possible. They cannot even pay the salaries for the workers! Why would they focus on Wrc when they can't even afford one of the most basic things of all?
I know that they are not in a good moment, but I heard about some "help" from outside. I agree that it's not likely their entry in the WRC, but if they say there are 2 manufacturers talking with FIA, then who may be other than one between Toyota and Subaru if not Saab? Maybe Renault? I did not heard anything about other manufacturers...

[Viking]

Always nice to have some feedback from your boss...

Citroen WRC boss disappointed with Kimi Raikkonen's rally progress - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93427)

[Barreis]

And we're disappointed with Quesnell's voice. :D

[makinen_fan]

seems Citroen is losing their patience with Kimi, but as far as he is paying for his seat that is fine.

[makinen_fan]

is it possible that Proton steps into WRC? colin clark asked Chris Atcko the question, and it seems that there is a possibility for that

[focus206]

Always nice to have some feedback from your boss...

Citroen WRC boss disappointed with Kimi Raikkonen's rally progress - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93427)
What did he expected from Kimi? To win rallies? To me, he is doing good enough for someone who started rallying 2 years ago...

[GigiGalliNo1]

Again guys.... Stop mentioning SAAB, just this week again - supply issues, last week a company that supplies parts went bust and SAAB ha to support them with $$$.

Proton is a posibility but not sure when... Atkinson won't be doing Rally Australia - he ran out of time in finding a car and some support :(

[alleskids]

seems Citroen is losing their patience with Kimi, but as far as he is paying for his seat that is fine.

or Citroen, AND Ford, could give their clients, who pay millions of Euro's, a decent rallycar, with strong and reliable material
and NOT **** up with the engine computer unit

[N.O.T]

or Citroen, AND Ford, could give their clients, who pay millions of Euro's, a decent rallycar, with strong and reliable material
and NOT **** up with the engine computer unit

they get exactly what they pay for....

As for the unemployed melting icecube it was obvious he was going nowhere from day 1....

[Maui J.]

is it possible that Proton steps into WRC? colin clark asked Chris Atcko the question, and it seems that there is a possibility for that
I've been thinking this as well. All the indicators point in that direction. 1 They have the money, 2 They obviously see rallying as part of their marketing strategy as they are doing the IRC and APRC at the moment. It looks as if they will win the APRC this year as they have a good points lead. 3 Why did Atko do the Finland recce, and who paid for him to be there?
Obviously they need to improve their current car as it lags behind the other S2000 cars on performance, but at least they are taking steps in the right direction and getting experience at a good level to compare themselves to the others.

... and before the pessimists say "NOT another Suzuki, Seat or Hyundai", I'll say "you can't win the Lottery unless you buy a ticket".

[Plan9]

+1 heear hear

[N.O.T]

... and before the pessimists say "NOT another Suzuki, Seat or Hyundai", I'll say "you can't win the Lottery unless you buy a ticket".

thast exactly the reason they FAIL....they see motorsport as a lottery....

guess what..... its not a lottery but some aspects look like a lottery !!!!!!!!!! the more money you pump in the higher the odds of winning.

Proton in the WRC....LOL... maybe when saaaaaaab enters.

[focus206]

maybe one of the 2 manufacturers that Mahonen was talking about is... Lotus lol :D :D :D
Google Traduttore (http://translate.google.it/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=it&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autosblog.fr%2Fpost%2F7121%2Flo tus-et-maintenant-le-wrc)
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2011/7/4/Report-A-Lotus-Exige-Rally-Car--7703778/

[Tofrallye29]

This week i heard several rumours that Quesnel could be dismiss of PSA at the end of the year
I have no precise source but 3 different voices announce me the same thing

[rallyfiend]

This week i heard several rumours that Quesnel could be dismiss of PSA at the end of the year
I have no precise source but 3 different voices announce me the same thing

Dismissed, or just moved to a different role?
It would be very unusual for anyone to know of any such 'dismissal' so far in advance of the actual person finding out! If you want someone out, you do it immediately, not wait for 6 months!

[Barreis]

Better to remove brainless Malcolm Wilson.

[Tofrallye29]

Dismissed, or just moved to a different role?
It would be very unusual for anyone to know of any such 'dismissal' so far in advance of the actual person finding out! If you want someone out, you do it immediately, not wait for 6 months!
I don't know exactly, in french we say "sur un siège éjectable" (on an ejector seat). PSA board would not be satisfied, he has to improve his management quickly.

[MJW]

Well I guess if Loeb stays in Citroen Quensel will be not in charge of the motorsport side of things.

[makinen_fan]

probably itjust gonna be a different person directly in charge of the rally team, and he will overlook the overall motorpsort of PSA group? there were many voices against him this year with his handling of loeb/ogier situation

[vkangas]

Dont know if this has been here but before Ketomaa secured two more rallies this year just before NORF. Both are on asphalt. He's doing Spain with R4 Mitsubishi and France with most propably WRC. The car deal for France is not yet confirmed.

[Barreis]

Good for him.

[WRCfan]

The sooner Quesnel is removed the better. His handling of the Ogier and Loeb situation has caused a 'Rossi & Lorenzo' situation.

[N.O.T]

what is this "situation" ??

[AndyRAC]

If Quesnel is removed as PSA Motorsport chief, it will be because of Peugeot's failure to win Le Mans with 3 cars against 1 Audi for over half the race - and last years 3 cars blowing up.

[WRCfan]

what is this "situation" ??

Should have worded that as "will create a Rossi and Lorenzo" situation.

[Miika]

Has this been mentioned here yet?
Jari Ketomaa to compete in six WRC events in Ford machinery in 2012 - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93612)

[6789]

Campana in FFSA backed Mini in Gernamy and France 2011 World Rally Championship - News - Campana gets WRC breakthrough (http://www.wrc.com/news/campana-gets-wrc-breakthrough/?fid=15127)

[focus206]

Has this been mentioned here yet?
Jari Ketomaa to compete in six WRC events in Ford machinery in 2012 - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93612)

I'm happy for Ketomaa :) And so this means Ford is confirmed for 2012?

[focus206]

Campana in FFSA backed Mini in Gernamy and France 2011 World Rally Championship - News - Campana gets WRC breakthrough (http://www.wrc.com/news/campana-gets-wrc-breakthrough/?fid=15127)
What happened to Alex Bengué? :confused: I thought it was him to run that Mini...

[Josti]

What happened to Alex Bengué? :confused: I thought it was him to run that Mini...

Bengué hasn't got any future in WRC, Campana might. Again the FFSA is serious about potential stars, should be an example for others.

[Barreis]

FFSA is great.

[I am evil Homer]

Yep I liked Bengue but it seems Campana has more ability given his current performances. Give him a seat and see how it goes.

The Ketomaa news is also welcome but also highlights the doubts I think many have...he's already 32 and gets 6 event programme? I hope he does well and can get more but really this is his last chance to show it.

[N.O.T]

meh... i prefered bengue....

[GigiGalliNo1]

Ken Block will compete in Rally Australia!

[Xsara Fan]

Ken Block will compete in Rally Australia!

Novikov too

[vkangas]

The Ketomaa news is also welcome but also highlights the doubts I think many have...he's already 32 and gets 6 event programme? I hope he does well and can get more but really this is his last chance to show it.
Really hard nowadays to get full programme. Good thing for Ketomaa is that he's able to get competetive km's as he's also competing with R4. In my opinion rallying is not so much about reactions but road eye so 32 is not too old. Marcus was over 30 when he got factory seat... ;)

BTW I think Ketomaa's car for next year is not yet confirmed. According to finnish yellow press the all three options are under negotiations.

[N.O.T]

Ketomaa is over for the WRC....no reason for anyone to invest on him. Hope he gets sponsors and drives though because he is fast and a good spectacle, but not good enough for a factory seat.

[Rallyper]

Really hard nowadays to get full programme. Good thing for Ketomaa is that he's able to get competetive km's as he's also competing with R4. In my opinion rallying is not so much about reactions but road eye so 32 is not too old. Marcus was over 30 when he got factory seat... ;)

BTW I think Ketomaa's car for next year is not yet confirmed. According to finnish yellow press the all three options are under negotiations.

Spinal reactions is better and better up to 40´s.

[Bobcat]

BTW I think Ketomaa's car for next year is not yet confirmed. According to finnish yellow press the all three options are under negotiations.
Ketomaa said: "I am working on trying to go to France for another WRC round to get some asphalt experience, but really my big focus is on next year and doing six rallies in a Fiesta."

[Plan9]

Really hard nowadays to get full programme. Good thing for Ketomaa is that he's able to get competetive km's as he's also competing with R4. In my opinion rallying is not so much about reactions but road eye so 32 is not too old. Marcus was over 30 when he got factory seat... ;)

BTW I think Ketomaa's car for next year is not yet confirmed. According to finnish yellow press the all three options are under negotiations.

What if the "anti-third car rule" was scrapped. I think that Ketomaa would be ideal for the 3rd factory ford, or at leat that "Team Abu Dhabi" thing.

I expect that when pigs fly the FIA will scrap the 3rd car rule though...

[mousti]

What happened to Alex Bengué? :confused: I thought it was him to run that Mini...
Not many know but Bengue is the ouvreur for Ogier in the WRC.

[Miika]

Ketomaa said: "I am working on trying to go to France for another WRC round to get some asphalt experience, but really my big focus is on next year and doing six rallies in a Fiesta."

In a news bit done by Turun Sanomat Ketomaa is quoted saying:
"The options (for the car) are Ford, Mini and Citroen. For the final decisions it could take up to couple of months.
..
The budget isn´t quite ready yet, but we will get it done."

Ketomaan MM-ohjelma hahmottuu - Ralli - Turun Sanomat (http://www.ts.fi/moottoriurheilu/ralli/244884.html)

[Barreis]

M.Wilson won't put anyone in the car without bag full of money. At least not 32 years old.

[Tomi]

Marcus was over 30 when he got factory seat... ;)

Actually he had a contract with Toyota earlier, but main sponsor wanted another driver, so the contract lasted only over night.


BTW I think Ketomaa's car for next year is not yet confirmed. According to finnish yellow press the all three options are under negotiations.

VW would be best option for both.

[rp]

Actually he had a contract with Toyota earlier, but main sponsor wanted another driver, so the contract lasted only over night.

VW would be best option for both.

Can´t be. VW´s Polo R WRC is not ready before the season 2013...

[Tomi]

Can´t be. VW´s Polo R WRC is not ready before the season 2013...

It still would be the best option, if there is any chance to get there, he is very good as testdriver + 1 year unlimited test km's would be ok too ( a little same like with Mikkola and Audi in the past.)

[Plan9]

what would be the ideal calendar of 13 events?

[Barreis]

Novikov too

So far zero points. Few millions into wind.

[Miika]

what would be the ideal calendar of 13 events?

1. Monte Carlo
2. Sweden
3. Portugal
4. Corsica
5. Argentina
6. Acropolis
7. Poland
8. Finland
9. Germany
10. Australia / New Zealand
11. Catalunya
12. San Remo
13. Great Britain

?

[Plan9]

1. Monte Carlo
2. Sweden
3. Canada/USA
4. Brazil
5. NZ/Australia
6. China
7. Spain
8. Finland
9. Russia
10. Poland
11. Germany
12. India
13. UK/Ireland

[papar007]

1. Monte Carlo
2. Sweden
3. Canada/USA
4. Brazil
5. NZ/Australia
6. China
7. Spain
8. Finland
9. Russia
10. Poland
11. Germany
12. India
13. UK/Ireland

Were is the Acropolis my friend?

[N.O.T]

posting your imaginary calendar in the news and rumours thread doesn't contribute anything...

[Barreis]

Americans aren't interested in this kinda sport.

[TyPat107]

Americans aren't interested in this kinda sport.
Some of us are

[I am evil Homer]

Americans aren't interested in this kinda sport.

Judging by TV figures/exposure/lack of sponsors for talented drivers no one is really interested in this sport. It's not an American thing

[AndyRAC]

Judging by TV figures/exposure/lack of sponsors for talented drivers no one is really interested in this sport. It's not an American thing

And that's because the sport had been appalingly run for the best part of 10 years. People thought it could rival F1 - with the inevitable consequences. Part of running a sport/championship is knowing were you stand in the sporting world. Yes, it's important to grow, but trying to do it too quickly is guaranteed to fail.

[Barreis]

Good thing is Block who has nearly 2 million fans on facebook and Loeb has 260000.

[dimviii]

Google PYeklada (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=cs&sl=cs&tl=en&u=http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php%3Fid%3D17486)

[I am evil Homer]

Good thing is Block who has nearly 2 million fans on facebook and Loeb has 260000.

Block is great at the marketing side and IMO the WRC should get him on board as the head of marketing/PR. But they need a new TV deal, badly as the exposure is awful - Block is great at creating a buzz, getting out there in front of fans showing them the car etc. Sure it's easy to mock him and Pastrana but they get more exposure than the whole of WRC has in years.

Andy - I totally agree rallying is a niche sport but it could be bigger. It needs to embrace social media and ways to grow the audience.

[logic]

The WRC was going on before Block head and will be going on after he decides to leave . Who cares about how many fans they have , his 2 million fans are mostly made up of subaru fan boys who think doing donuts is cool and that is what 90% of america thinks.

[Josti]

The WRC was going on before Block head and will be going on after he decides to leave . Who cares about how many fans they have , his 2 million fans are mostly made up of subaru fan boys who think doing donuts is cool and that is what 90% of america thinks.

That's true, I think the majority aren't even WRC followers.

[Barreis]

WRC has also Kimi but Americans don't like F1 too much.