[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

[N.O.T]

i am not blaming the czech people or media, very rarely they are wrong in contrast with the british and finnish ones who just like to post garbage....i just thought that such a rumour would come from there since skoda controls everything in motorsport in C.R....

the fact that the rumour comes from a country from which every year their national and irc organisers announce half of the rallying world in their entry lists and in the end none actually participates proves that this thing is just thin air.

[urabus-denoS2000]

i am not blaming the czech people or media, very rarely they are wrong in contrast with the british and finnish ones who just like to post garbage....i just thought that such a rumour would come from there since skoda controls everything in motorsport in C.R....

the fact that the rumour comes from a country from which every year their national and irc organisers announce half of the rallying world in their entry lists and in the end none actually participates proves that this thing is just thin air.

Name some examples of big names which didn't start on Barum ?

[uranium]

Name some examples of big names which didn't start on Barum ?

M. Wilson Jr. ;)

[wwbroe]

Name some examples of big names which didn't start on Barum ?

I think you misunderstood NOT, he meant that rumour is coming from Portugal. :D

[urabus-denoS2000]

Oh , that makes sense ... My apologies to N.O.T. ;)

[N.O.T]

Name some examples of big names which didn't start on Barum ?

i was refering to portugal....basic reading skills....learn them...

[MJW]

Very, very interesting take on this Loeb/VW/ change in Citroen 2011 pn the totalrally podcast last night. Well worth listening to the news and rumours Colin Clark brought back from the real wrc and service park, as opposed to our cyber eqivalent here.

[Barreis]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89839

[N.O.T]

very nice article hope they bring all that money and use them properly....we need a real rival for the reds. Does this mean the end of ford is near ???

[6789]

Go VW!! Be awesome to see them with Petter!! Yay!



Very, very interesting take on this Loeb/VW/ change in Citroen 2011 pn the totalrally podcast last night. Well worth listening to the news and rumours Colin Clark brought back from the real wrc and service park, as opposed to our cyber eqivalent here.

Was a great show, alot of news

There was a small snippet on the new tyres for the WRC being lighter than the Pirelli's. This being one of the reasons why the 1.6T's were faster than the 2.0T's in Mexico. Some of the Australian PWRC guys were talking about this being an issue, the control tyres were too heavy compared to their normal tyre and it messed with their setups.

[AndyRAC]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89839

Hmm, not worried eh? He of all people should know what the VW Group are capable of; LMP/Le Mans - Audi v Peugeot.....

[N.O.T]

PSA vs VW

WAAAAAR

[nr7wave]

PSA vs VW

WAAAAAR

An the "collateral" damage in this war will be Mini an perhaps Ford?

[alleskids]

Or Ford does realice that they need to step up and become a real factory team. It was not worth giving to much support when M-Sport fought against Citroen only. Mini and Saab wil definitly become cassuals

[wildsir]

Or Ford does realice that they need to step up and become a real factory team. It was not worth giving to much support when M-Sport fought against Citroen only. Mini and Saab wil definitly become cassuals</p>


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I wouldnt underestimate BMW's involvment. Do you honestly think they will stand by and be walked over by VW?

[N.O.T]

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*</p>
I wouldnt underestimate BMW's involvment. Do you honestly think they will stand by and be walked over by VW?

yes...the fact they used the mini and not a BMW model is exactly that...they are not very serious about it and thats why they selected a b-class car company to represent them, so if mini does well they are going to be happy and if mini fails which it will most lkely thier image will be unscathed.

also they hired prodrive the set things up...just like ford did with m-sport not a direct BMW involvment.

[Doon]

VW's involvement is excellent news, and in some ways I hope they do come with a massive budget, but total domination will ruin the sport just have Citroen have in some ways.

Also, I think everyone is writing Ford off too quickly. Mexico as we know was not a good event for them, but lets leave it a few events and then we'll see. I don't doubt that the 2 Sebs and Solberg have a better package, but Mikko and Jari are both ultra rapid on their day, and the Fiesta may prove to be better suited to the fast rallies like Finland and NZ, as are the drivers. On the Solberg issue what is the difference with his car, surely there is something....weight?

[Mirek]

I think we should not forget that Loeb is one of major owners of PH Sport, so he is very much involved in Citroën Racing activities not only as a driver...

[N.O.T]

No new zealand this year.....

[N.O.T]

An the "collateral" damage in this war will be Mini an perhaps Ford?

i do not care about the collateral damage..

there is a saying in greece saying when the buffalos fighting the frogs are the ones that lose (free translation...the exact one is the frogs pay for it)

Both BWM and Ford have the budget to go toe to toe with PSA and WV...if they do not wish to pay for success then stand aside and watch WIlson JR ridiculing himself and the factory.

And to use another saying...if you spend peanuts you can only buy monkeys.

[MJW]

I think we should not forget that Loeb is one of major owners of PH Sport, so he is very much involved in Citroën Racing activities not only as a driver... yeah PH Sport, the company running Petter's DS3.

[Doon]

I thought Citroen Racing were perparing Petters car?

[AndyRAC]

yes...the fact they used the mini and not a BMW model is exactly that...they are not very serious about it and thats why they selected a b-class car company to represent them, so if mini does well they are going to be happy and if mini fails which it will most lkely thier image will be unscathed.

also they hired prodrive the set things up...just like ford did with m-sport not a direct BMW involvment.

Exactly - it's a win/win for BMW. In simplistic terms, the Mini does well, they get good publicity and pat themselves on the back. If it fails, then so what - they're not hugely involved - it's Prodrive's fault. And the same is true for Ford - AbuDhabi provide most of the money for the team along with sales of Rally cars - rather than fundingfrom Ford Motor Company.
I seem to remember reading that BMW didn't like their cars in Rallying - as the cars get dirty and it didn't fit their image!!

[Mirek]

I thought Citroen Racing were perparing Petters car?

PH Sport and Citroën Racing are working almost as one team.

[A.F.F.]

An the "collateral" damage in this war will be Mini an perhaps Ford?

Subaru supposed to be collateral damage in the war between Lancia, Toyota and Mitsubishi.... look what happened.

[tmx]

Do anyone know the reason why Dani Sordo split from his codriver Diego Vallejo? One of the article I vaguely remembered reading it has something to do with their disagreement over money. I sort of guess what that means, but I rather not speculate if it could be wrong.


http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/sordo_changes_co-driver/
"But while the partnership with Vallejo worked well, the split has come about for financial reasons. In a statement, Sordo said that although he and Vallejo remained friends, “economic disagreement” meant that they would not be competing together in 2011."

Anyway, I wonder how much codrivers are getting paid on average compared to the drivers.

[Brother John]

PH Sport and Citroën Racing are working almost as one team.

Exactly what you say, ALMOST means in this case "NOT THE SAME CAR as Loeb.

[MikeD]

I thought it was his own PSWRT that ran his car? I know that PH-sport is running Raikkonen's and Van Merkstejn's cars but are you sure they are also running PSolbergs?

[nzabevAMSM]

http://www.worldcarfans.com/111031031042/saab-in-danger-of-bankruptcy---report

Maybe no Saab in WRC, Antonov could bring Lada instead :-D

[uranium]

Maybe no Saab in WRC, Antonov could bring Lada instead :-D

Yes! Lada Kalina. And Putin as driver with Medvedev as co-driver ;)

[Karukera]

Yes! Lada Kalina. And Putin as driver with Medvedev as co-driver ;)


I expected you would offer the codriver seat to Yulia Timoshenko, she could be just as good in the slow portions as she is at political twists and could be useful to Vlad.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/flintwood/putintimoshenko.jpg

Not sure if they both could get well along a full season though, nor if she could arrange her spectacular hair dressing in the helmet. :s tare:

[Daniel]

I expected you would offer the codriver seat to Yulia Timoshenko, she could be just as good in the slow portions as she is at political twists and could be useful to Vlad.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/flintwood/putintimoshenko.jpg

Not sure if they both could get well along a full season though, nor if she could arrange her spectacular hair dressing in the helmet. :s tare:

Awesome hair!

[Barreis]

Some other parts too.. :D

[Motorsportfun]

Some other parts too.. :D

Once agree with you! :D

[Rallyper]

Please, could we go back to the thread?

[vkangas]

Anyway, I wonder how much codrivers are getting paid on average compared to the drivers.

Typically the driver pays his codriver's salary, but of course there are some exceptions. According to my sources typical WRC level amount is about 10-30 percent of driver's salary.

[OldF]

Loeb don’t like endurance rallies.

http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/lazy_loeb_not_sure_about_long_rallies/

[BleAivano]

The 2012 edition of Rally Sweden will be held on February 9-12. The concept and co-operation with Norway will be developed further next year which likely will mean more stages on the Norwegian side of the border.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/motor/rally/article8683484.ab

[jbmarcus21]

#WRC Temporary 2012 Wrc Season calendar which could look like that http://bit.ly/fjWjVa

[N.O.T]

looks ok to me...

[6789]

Yes! NZ!!

[Plan9]

I hear talk that the season will be 12 events long. This was justified on maxrally recently as a way of preventing the WRC clashing with F1 on tv. I really hope this does not eventuate as about 50% of the fun of WRC is watching cars of a wide variety of events. i feel that wrc should be brave and try to challenge f1 in the motorsport tv marketplace.

[AndyRAC]

I hear talk that the season will be 12 events long. This was justified on maxrally recently as a way of preventing the WRC clashing with F1 on tv. I really hope this does not eventuate as about 50% of the fun of WRC is watching cars of a wide variety of events. i feel that wrc should be brave and try to challenge f1 in the motorsport tv marketplace.

Sorry, that's just crazy. To the general public and sports media, F1=Motorsport!! Trying to go head to head with F1 will only result in one winner. And it isn't WRC. At the moment, no Motorsport can compete with F1. The best thing is to stay out of it's way.

[OldF]

This is the most recently calendar from MaxRally.

http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/calendar_changes_voted_on_by_commission/

[tfp]

This is the most recently calendar from MaxRally.

http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/calendar_changes_voted_on_by_commission/

Cant they swap Germany for Australia?:-)

[tfp]

Sorry, that's just crazy. To the general public and sports media, F1=Motorsport!! Trying to go head to head with F1 will only result in one winner. And it isn't WRC. At the moment, no Motorsport can compete with F1. The best thing is to stay out of it's way.

True. But just because the F1 is on, dont mean the general public cant follow both. Keep the 13 events:-)

[pettersolberg29]

Petter may do the IndyCar event in Las Vegas - massive pot for the winner - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89889

[morganmilan]

Cant they swap Germany for Australia?:-)
Let´s hope none whatsoever :D

[Co-driven]

There's a rumor that for 2012 Rally Argentina will be run both in Argentina and either Uruguay or Chile. Both ways, the rally would leave the region of Córdoba, where it's been run for the last 25 years.
This rally would follow the ideas of Jean Todt of having those endurance rallies again, with 800 competitive kilometers on a rally.

[tfp]

There's a rumor that for 2012 Rally Argentina will be run both in Argentina and either Uruguay or Chile. Both ways, the rally would leave the region of Córdoba, where it's been run for the last 25 years.
This rally would follow the ideas of Jean Todt of having those endurance rallies again, with 800 competitive kilometers on a rally.

Taking a bit of a risk there, Argentina was another one of my favourite events. Although the endurance thing is a good move.

[Josti]

Argentina was more or less an endurance event in it's original form. It's quite a radical move if they already want this next year, but I would applaud it. Maybe some experience can be taken from the Dakar Rally.

[tfp]

Argentina was more or less an endurance event in it's original form. It's quite a radical move if they already want this next year, but I would applaud it. Maybe some experience can be taken from the Dakar Rally.

Same here, there are too many stages in WRC that get re used every year. Would be nice to have a new format!

[N.O.T]

Argentina is having problems organising a 350km rally....the organisation is littered with problems every year....the stages are one of the best around but the people are just not good enough....if they want a 800km rally then its over for them.

[vino_93]

Alexandre Bengué will drive 3 WRC events with Mini WRC : Germany, France and Spain !
http://planetemarcus.free.fr/newsrallyes2011.htm

[Barreis]

Very good.. With who as a codriver, still pretty girl?

[Motorsportfun]

Argentina is having problems organising a 350km rally....the organisation is littered with problems every year....the stages are one of the best around but the people are just not good enough....if they want a 800km rally then its over for them.

Well, the same would be for Greece. It's organized with the money of the Casino. If the Casino doesn't want his WRC event anymore, for Acropolis would be over, as the economic situation there is quite difficult...

[pettersolberg29]

Alexandre Bengué will drive 3 WRC events with Mini WRC : Germany, France and Spain !
http://planetemarcus.free.fr/newsrallyes2011.htm

Wondered what happened to Bengue - showed flashes of speed a few years back. Hopefully the 3 tarmac rounds will suit him well.

[N.O.T]

Well, the same would be for Greece. It's organized with the money of the Casino. If the Casino doesn't want his WRC event anymore, for Acropolis would be over, as the economic situation there is quite difficult...

that is true but in greece we do not have organisational problems during the event...in argentina we have whole legs being canceled, firetrucks almost killing drivers, wrong times given to competitors ects....the event is a farce.

to be honest the Last few years the acropolis is being organised just to make some people in the dumpster of athens richer and the stupid greek yes men happy so the majority is ok with that....the event has lost its soul for some time now.

[mousti]

PH Sport and Citroën Racing are working almost as one team.
Indeed, they're also in charge of renting the C4's they did service for the rented C4's in Belgium of Tsjoen and Romain.

[jbmarcus21]

2011 Season Marcus Grönholm http://bit.ly/flTIVd

[jbmarcus21]

Rally NZ returns to WRC from 2012 http://bit.ly/fmdtUq

[tolis]

Entry list of Rally Jordan announced:http://www.jordanrally.com/WRC/Library/634357667595843750.pdf

[tfp]

Entry list of Rally Jordan announced:http://www.jordanrally.com/WRC/Library/634357667595843750.pdf

Isn't there supposed to be a new stage in Jordan this year, with at least 2 very long jumps?

[RS]

Entry list of Rally Jordan announced:http://www.jordanrally.com/WRC/Library/634357667595843750.pdf

Funny to see Oliveira seeded ahead of Wilson, I know Matty is slow but....

Is Oliveira (or any other 1.6T S2000 car) eligible for any FIA sub-championship this year?

[mousti]

Funny to see Oliveira seeded ahead of Wilson, I know Matty is slow but....

Is Oliveira (or any other 1.6T S2000 car) eligible for any FIA sub-championship this year?
He is Fia Prior 2 so there isn't any logic about this I think if there's 2 minutes between them Peter will have problems okay he isn't fast but still can drive a bit fast :p plus the DS3 is way more faster than the Mini S2000 1.6T he'll have for sure dust problems with that coz Oliveira's pace is REALLY slow.

[6789]

He is Fia Prior 2 so there isn't any logic about this I think if there's 2 minutes between them Peter will have problems okay he isn't fast but still can drive a bit fast :p plus the DS3 is way more faster than the Mini S2000 1.6T he'll have for sure dust problems with that coz Oliveira's pace is REALLY slow.

I'd have to be a mistake? Wilson and Van Merksteijn are both P1?

Interesting

[rp]

He is Fia Prior 2 so there isn't any logic about this I think if there's 2 minutes between them Peter will have problems okay he isn't fast but still can drive a bit fast :p plus the DS3 is way more faster than the Mini S2000 1.6T he'll have for sure dust problems with that coz Oliveira's pace is REALLY slow.

I'd have to be a mistake? Wilson and Van Merksteijn are both P1?

Interesting


Wilson is entered by M-Sport Stobart Ford, so he is Priority 1.

World Rally Team Brazil (Oliveira) and Van Merksteijn Motorsport (van Merksteyn Jr.) are registered WRC Teams and that is why they are also P1...

[alleskids]

Wilson is P1 because every driver, even privateers, get P1 when they do more then 3 WRC events. Wilson was, theoratical, allowed to test as much and were ever he wanted , while Manufacturer entries have strict rules. In Sweden and Mexico Wilson was privateer, now he is a manufactur acoordign to the new rules, evenif he does not score points for M-Spot Stobart.
Oliviera is a Manufacturer entry and will score/could score points with as Mini PS and a Mini WRcar, even with a real S2000 or a Group N

[mousti]

Wilson is entered by M-Sport Stobart Ford, so he is Priority 1.

World Rally Team Brazil (Oliveira) and Van Merksteijn Motorsport (van Merksteyn Jr.) are registered WRC Teams and that is why they are also P1...
The entry list saying that he's P2 and I was coz of that saying it. People with common sense should put Oliveira in last place of manufacturer because he's the slowest of them all and especially with a way more weaker then others in the first rallies. Anyways van Merksteijn Jr is screwed by that.

[Tom206wrc]

Interesting to see hungarian driver Turàn Frigyes in Ford Fiesta S2000 :)

[rallyfiend]

Funny to see Oliveira seeded ahead of Wilson, I know Matty is slow but....

Is Oliveira (or any other 1.6T S2000 car) eligible for any FIA sub-championship this year?

Ummm, that's not a seeded entry list. That's a car number order entry list.

Seeding won't be done until the start list for Day 1 is produced.....

[Tom206wrc]

Sorry, that's just crazy. To the general public and sports media, F1=Motorsport!! Trying to go head to head with F1 will only result in one winner. And it isn't WRC. At the moment, no Motorsport can compete with F1. The best thing is to stay out of it's way.




Yep, because of the MEDIAS alone who don't want to make effort to interest people to other motorsports :mad:

[Tom206wrc]

Hmm, not worried eh? He of all people should know what the VW Group are capable of; LMP/Le Mans - Audi v Peugeot.....


This is different here !!!! Citroën is long time rally runner before VW comes back, Audi was long time endurance runner before Peugeot came back :rolleyes:

[Barreis]

David Richards (rights holder from that time) started with destroying of reputation of WRC when the sport was on high note.. After that Mehkta and Chandler destroyed everything what they could.. Maybe this Russian will improve popularity of the sport.. Nasty..

[jbmarcus21]

Kimi Raikkonen testing today DS3WRC in gravel roads to prepare Rally de Portugal http://bit.ly/hwFjwC

[CABAIO E'LONA]

the event is a farce.



The Rally Argentina is a farce? beyond the problems you mentioned, you have no authority to say that ... I think the Rally of Argentina is much better than the Acropolis...

[Barreis]

Both events has tradition and I like them..

[N.O.T]

The Rally Argentina is a farce? beyond the problems you mentioned, you have no authority to say that ... I think the Rally of Argentina is much better than the Acropolis...

when it comes to stages i consider the event the best one apart from finland, NZ but the organisation is full of problems each and every year.....so you probably have the wrong people on the wrong places.

[Barreis]

Look at this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UCCA08waMk

[tfp]

Look at this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UCCA08waMk

I saw a similar video just after the accident, albeit not as good quality as that one!

[Mirek]

However this one is also wrong. There was a gap between railbars, not like in the video. That was proven by photos where it was easy to see that an end part of the railbar went through the car.

[urabus-denoS2000]

But it is more accurate than the first one . Eye witnesses said he first hit the wall , which wasnt shown the first one

[MartijnS]

Livery of van Merksteijn!

http://www.vm-motorsport.nl/Static/Images/UserUpload/Rally/Port11/DS3-zijkant-zw-def.jpg

http://www.vm-motorsport.nl/Static/Images/UserUpload/Rally/Port11/DS3-voorzijde-zw-def.jpg

http://www.vm-motorsport.nl/Static/Images/UserUpload/Rally/Port11/DS3-achterzijde-zw-def.jpg

[Karukera]

I know those are Van Merksteijn's colors but wow, that's a lot of funeral-ish purple for a brand new car. :|

[N.O.T]

nice livery i like it...

[Datto1600]

nice livery i like it...

OMG!!! A positive comment from N.O.T!!!!

[Barreis]

You don't understand him.. He's just practising his english.. :D

[Allar]

I hate it :D maybe coz its made in paint :D

[Motorsportfun]

New sponsor for the WRC, it's DELPHI! ;)

[Hartusvuori]

Mikkelsen to run six gravel events at Italian championship
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90154

[Motorsportfun]

Mikkelsen to run six gravel events at Italian championship
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90154

To post in the IRC section ;)

[Barreis]

+1

[Hartusvuori]

To post in the IRC section ;)

So, not a hot story then?

[J.Lindstroem]

So a norweigan driver driving for a british team in the italian championship?

[Sulland]

So a norweigan driver driving for a british team in the italian championship?

Makes perfect sense ! :)

[Hartusvuori]

So a norweigan driver driving for a british team in the italian championship?

Add a Czech car brand!

[wwbroe]

But i think he is driving in a Skoda Italy prepared car, so maybe it makes some sence after all. :D

[J.Lindstroem]

Why is the rally radio broadcast at 8.30 when the stage starts at 8? Thats strange i think. They should broadcast at 7.30... :S

[Motorsportfun]

So, not a hot story then?

It's a hot story, but it's posted in the wrong thread. That's all.

If anyone post anything everywhere, leave only a topic where to put all the stuff...

[jbmarcus21]

Marcus Grönholm wins Global Rallycross Championship from LA - Video & Photos http://bit.ly/flTIVd

New Standings Wrc 2011 after Portugal http://bit.ly/dUULdd

[BleAivano]

team Höganäs (Ramona Rallying)/Ejla Motorsport with duo Ramona Karlsson (driver) and Miriam Walfridsson (co-driver)
are planning to drive the full 2012 PWRC championship.

They will swap the M-B Evo IX they have been driving in 2010 and so far in 2011 for a Mitsubishi Evo X,which was used
by STCC-driver Rickard Göransson during the 2011 winterseason. this is the result of the new partnership with Ejla Motorsport.

They also intends to do a few international starts this season.

source: http://www.ramonarallying.com/?p=1321
the car on the picture is the "old" Evo IX.

[rp]

Jari Ketomaa will drive three WRC events (Finland, France, GB) behind the wheel of the World Rally Car (maybe Fiesta..) and already in Italy he will compete with the Group N car. It must be Impeza R4...

[6789]

Marcus Grönholm wins Global Rallycross Championship from LA - Video & Photos http://bit.ly/flTIVd

New Standings Wrc 2011 after Portugal http://bit.ly/dUULdd
Show that Tanner Foust how the real boys drive.. Still got friends in Aus who always talk about him driving some massive V8 rally car

[dimviii]

Jari Ketomaa will drive three WRC events (Finland, France, GB) behind the wheel of the World Rally Car (maybe Fiesta..) and already in Italy he will compete with the Group N car. It must be Impeza R4...

nice!

[tolis]

Jari Ketomaa will drive three WRC events (Finland, France, GB) behind the wheel of the World Rally Car (maybe Fiesta..) and already in Italy he will compete with the Group N car. It must be Impeza R4...
Italy you mean Rally d'Italia Sardegna? Any chance of coming to Greece...?

[N.O.T]

Jari Ketomaa will drive three WRC events (Finland, France, GB) behind the wheel of the World Rally Car (maybe Fiesta..) and already in Italy he will compete with the Group N car. It must be Impeza R4...

good news....time to measure with the big boys and see his value.

[miksu]

Jari Ketomaa will drive three WRC events (Finland, France, GB) behind the wheel of the World Rally Car (maybe Fiesta..) and already in Italy he will compete with the Group N car. It must be Impeza R4...

No, its Evo X

[6789]

Jari Ketomaa will drive three WRC events (Finland, France, GB) behind the wheel of the World Rally Car (maybe Fiesta..) and already in Italy he will compete with the Group N car. It must be Impeza R4...
Awesome news!! Maybe top 5 in Finland barring any mishaps

[dimviii]

No, its Evo X

R4 evo X?

[vkangas]

The team running Ketomaa's car in Sardinia is JRM. I do not know is it group N or R but it will be a completely new car built.

For the WRC Ketomaa is negotiating with Ford and Mini.

[Barreis]

Gwyndaf Evans - JRM?

[miksu]

R4 evo X?

I hope its R, like vkangas they are building it now.

[darkstar]

will he drive whole pwrc then?

[Barreis]

Not bad for Loeb - 58:58 and three asphalt rallies to come plus maybe Jordan will be cancelled..

[Barreis]

Readin' today's NY Times.. Nobody ever heard for this sport and Portugal WRC..

[Bobcat]

Not bad for Loeb - 58:58 and three asphalt rallies to come plus maybe Jordan will be cancelled..
Ogier? Loeb's fury?! :angryfire "I am not angry and mad! I am happy!" :angryfire

http://www.rallybuzz.com/photos/Rally-Portugal-2011/-DAY1%20CITROEN-PORTUGAL/LOEB-148.JPG

[miksu]

Readin' today's NY Times.. Nobody ever heard for this sport and Portugal WRC..

There should be a WRC rally in US

[miksu]

will he drive whole pwrc then?

I dont think so. He tries to do few more rallies this year, but doesnt know with which cars. Hopefully some wth WRC and some with S2000

[RallyAnimal]

Marcus Grönholm wins Global Rallycross Championship from LA - Video & Photos http://bit.ly/flTIVd

More videos here http://rally-videos.com/global-rallycross/marcus-gronholm-wins-global-rallycross-championship-event/

That looks really entertaining way to compete.

[Barreis]

There should be a WRC rally in US
+1

[N.O.T]

There should be a WRC rally in US

totally agree, the WRC needs the US market. but the FIA incompetent fat boys are afraid they might lose their F1 publicity.

[rallyfiend]

totally agree, the WRC needs the US market. but the FIA incompetent fat boys are afraid they might lose their F1 publicity.

I fail to see any logic in this statement.

[Allyc85]

There should be a WRC rally in US

Agreed, its rediculous that one the most important countries in the automotive industry dosnt have a round in the WRC! Surely it would be great publicity for the manufacturers and spread the sport to a new market?

[Bobcat]

Agreed, its rediculous that one the most important countries in the automotive industry dosnt have a round in the WRC! Surely it would be great publicity for the manufacturers and spread the sport to a new market?
Certainly, look at the new GRC! http://www.global-rallycross.com/

[sollitt]

Agreed, its rediculous that one the most important countries in the automotive industry dosnt have a round in the WRC! Surely it would be great publicity for the manufacturers and spread the sport to a new market?

Hardly ridiculous as you say. USA have had WRC rounds in the past and as it is not a 'recognised' motorsport the events were poorly supported by both competitors and spectators and probably media too.
USA might be a large market but whilst that might be one factor in where WRC rounds are run we must remember also that this is the pinnacle of our sport and events should reflect that with good sponsorship, competitor, spectator and media support and be proficiently organised.
There is no guarantee that USA can deliver any of that or indeed that the manufacturers will derive any commercial benefit from running there.

[sonnyc4]

Rallying to Americans is a bunch of MX riders Driving around Stadiums and carparks

[Mirek]

Moreover US market doesn't grow at all and there's very little hope it will ever do again. Most important car market is now China, India etc. (not only by numbers but especially by growth potential). There is a lot to fight for. In USA not.

[N.O.T]

Moreover US market doesn't grow at all and there's very little hope it will ever do again. Most important car market is now China, India etc. (not only by numbers but especially by growth potential). There is a lot to fight for. In USA not.

i disagree about china and india...they have no motorsport culture yet to accept a sport like rallying.

[mousti]

nice livery i like it...
WoW u serious :p .

Those are the normal color scheme of van Merksteijn always drove in those colors (besides one year in Mistral Colors), always nice liveries. The Kiki thing on the roof is some support for the Child Cancer fund in the Netherlands !

[Mirek]

i disagree about china and india...they have no motorsport culture yet to accept a sport like rallying.


That's the work of promoter to make the sport useful for sales. But generally every car maker tries to fight on growing markets, it's easier than to fight for more sales where overall numbers go down every year.

[alleskids]

The USA has a huge car market, but only for USA made cars and some Japanese cars. European car makers have nothing to look for in the States. And as already mentioned, they do not reconice rally as a real sport, unless Loeb, Latvalla are driving around on a 1 mile track, doing some donuts and jumping. Rally USA would be 50 super special stages in footbal stadiums, like 50 times the race of Champions with a lot of cheerleaders.

[Tomi]

Moreover US market doesn't grow at all and there's very little hope it will ever do again. Most important car market is now China, India etc. (not only by numbers but especially by growth potential). There is a lot to fight for. In USA not.


thats how it is, and the comission is working on to get rallies to China etc, but it will take about 2-3 years from now.

[tolis]

Anyone know Araujo's WRC rallies for 2011?

[RICARDO75]

Anyone know Araujo's WRC rallies for 2011?

Italy
Greece
Finland
Germany
France
Spain
Wales

[tolis]

Italy
Greece
Finland
Germany
France
Spain
Wales
Thanks Ricardo!!!

[Barreis]

Nice program..

[pantealex]

will he drive whole pwrc then?

R4 cars are in SWRC, but answer is still NO.
mtv3.fi news says that he will drive 3 events (Sardinia, Katalonia and Wales) with evoX

[Hartusvuori]

Monte Carlo 2012 is tipped to be both IRC and WRC event.

http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/monte_tipped_for_wrc_return/

[J.Lindstroem]

That would be one of the biggest entrylists ever!!

[miksu]

That would be great, if it would be run more like what it has been in IRC. Maybe with few more stages, but i hope it will take place early in the year so there's a chance for snow. Interesting thing is the promoter part. Eurosport has shown how it should be done in Monte, i hope North One wont screw it. Maybe they could combine their efforts to create even better show... who knows.

[6789]

IRC would probably get buried by the WRC, that would be worth flying ove to see but! Car 50 could still be an S2000!

[Iskald]

Monte Carlo 2012 is tipped to be both IRC and WRC event.

http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/monte_tipped_for_wrc_return/

It isn`t 1st of april until tomorrow!

[Barreis]

+1

[General Prim]

+2

:-D

[PLuto]

I think this is only wish of WRC. ACM organisers dont have reason to go out of IRC, but WRC needs Monte very much and they are trying to do everything to have Monte back. But should help that 1.6T cars will be allowed next years also in IRC...

[Bobcat]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90347

Sebastien Loeb has denied any contact with Volkswagen regarding the German firm's much talked about WRC programme.

"No," said Loeb. "I have not spoken to VW about next year. I don't know if I will be driving next year."

[MJW]

I think M.Todt wants it, and even though he is a "quiet guy" (compared to Max) I suspect he is the kind of guy who gets what he wants in the end. My feeling is the DR inspired clover leaf days are numbered, Autosport hints that Rally GB might evolve shall we say.

[Barreis]

15 millions.. That's star's sallary.. :)

[AndyRAC]

I think M.Todt wants it, and even though he is a "quiet guy" (compared to Max) I suspect he is the kind of guy who gets what he wants in the end. My feeling is the DR inspired clover leaf days are numbered, Autosport hints that Rally GB might evolve shall we say.

I'd say you're right. Jean is extremely clever, and has pleasantly surprised me during his tenure as President (though it shouldn't, his Peugeot success proved that). In fact, he's doing so well, that Bernie isn't pleased at all.
As for Loeb - he could be right up there with Rossi/ Schumacher if he went to VW. Personally, I don't feel he's rated as highly as them two. Both left their comfort zones, and helped develop the team/ new machines into winners. Does he want one final challenge?

[wildsir]

do you honestly think Loeb could resist going to monte carlo?

[Micke_VOC]

Flodin aims to drive a S2000 in Italy in may.
Going to italy this week to meet some team

Sicily in late may according to the article, but that should be wrong. Maybe Sardinia in begining of may ? =)

http://helahalsingland.se/sport/motorsport/1.2904133-tvarstopp-pa-vm-drommen

[Langdale Forest]

Marcus Gronholm could return and replace Matthew Wilson at Stobart for the rest of the season.

[Jake Stephens]

Hard to imagine Loeb moving to another manufacturer this late in his career.

[wildsir]

Marcus Gronholm could return and replace Matthew Wilson at Stobart for the rest of the season.
1st of April my friend..

[Mark]

Marcus Gronholm could return and replace Matthew Wilson at Stobart for the rest of the season.

Just heard that Eddie Sobart himself has died.. and that's not an April fools.

[6789]

Just heard that Eddie Sobart himself has died.. and that's not an April fools.
Whats with the NASCAR?

RIP, wonder if that will effect their involvement with Ford

[Mark]

Whats with the NASCAR?

RIP, wonder if that will effect their involvement with Ford

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-12923203

Since he sold the firm in 2004, I would imagine, very little.

[6789]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-12923203

Since he sold the firm in 2004, I would imagine, very little.

Oh true, the thing about firms advertising in the WRC is that many people in countries outside their market gain exposure. I could never use Stobart services in Australia

[Motorsportfun]

http://www.rallyemotion.it/news/735-wrc-clamoroso-nel-mondiale-arriva-la-kia-con-gigi-galli :D

[Barreis]

Latvala turned to be a straight.. :D

[miksu]

http://www.rallyemotion.it/news/735-wrc-clamoroso-nel-mondiale-arriva-la-kia-con-gigi-galli :D

What does it say?

[Salist]

Very nice livery!

[darkstar]

Latvala turned to be a straight.. :D

what do you mean, is he usually gay?


What does it say?

its a joke (it even says that itself). but a good fake, the pictures are originally a fiesta wrc.

[Motorsportfun]

What does it say?

we said that KIA will come to WRC with two Rio WRCars driven by Toni Gardemeister and Gigi Galli... and that was unveiled for mistake by a Korean newspaper! :D

[miksu]

Oh... it did look bit weird :D

[Barreis]

Is it possible that it'll be VW beetle WRC?!

[tfp]

Is it possible that it'll be VW beetle WRC?!

Never thought of that :D
How about a camper van :D

[MJW]

Oh... it did look bit weird :D
There is a new Beetle due out next year. I think its off a different platform to the Polo which is thought to be the preferrd choice. Beetle shares a platform with Audi A3, also due a re-vamp.
Polo shared platform is Skoda Fabia, SEAT Ibiza, and Audi A1, interestingly there is some debate whether Audi launch a 4WD version of the A1.

[mm1]

Audi has confirmed that they will go ahead with Quattro A1.

[Barreis]

Just remembered how we were spittin' on Anthony Warmbold some years ago when McRae, Sainz, Rovanpera, Martin, Gronholm, etc. were active.. Today there's much more Warbolds in the sport and nobody spits on them. Where is that guy these days?

[Barreis]

Dani Sordo's practising with bmw..
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=348595&id=105320542862104#!/photo.php?pid=348596&id=105320542862104&fbid=156827351044756

[Hartusvuori]

Today there's much more Warbolds in the sport and nobody spits on them.

How can you say nobody spits on the Warmbolds of today? Wilson, Räikkönen, Al Qassimi, Van Merksteijns et al have definitely got their warm share of verbal abuse.

[Barreis]

:D

[Woodeye]

Today there's much more Warbolds in the sport and nobody spits on them.

Why should anyone spit on anyone?

[Barreis]

Finn is tellin' this?!

[tfp]

How can you say nobody spits on the Warmbolds of today? Wilson, Räikkönen, Al Qassimi, Van Merksteijns et al have definitely got their warm share of verbal abuse.

Why spit on Raikkonen?

[Tomi]

Come on guys, give the guy a brake, you got to understand that he comes from somewhere spitting and clawing is considered brave! You better focus on his posts, every second post is +1 or agree, thats really creative.

[Barreis]

Come on guys, give the guy a brake, you got to understand that he comes from somewhere spitting and clawing is considered brave! You better focus on his posts, every second post is +1 or agree, thats really creative.

Reported.

[Tomi]

Reported.

I hope your mom did not get too angry

[Barreis]

I hope your mom did not get too angry

Reported.

[PuddleJumper]

Guys, leave your personal feelings at the door. This forum is for discussing rallying, not for throwing insults.

Thank you.

[Tomi]

+1, agree and now reported, that's what I call evolution.

[Barreis]

+1, agree and now reported, that's what I call evolution.

Reported. I'll write what I like.

[tfp]

Guys, leave your personal feelings at the door. This forum is for discussing rallying, not for throwing insults.

Thank you.
:up: +1

[J.Lindstroem]

Just remembered how we were spittin' on Anthony Warmbold some years ago when McRae, Sainz, Rovanpera, Martin, Gronholm, etc. were active.. Today there's much more Warbolds in the sport and nobody spits on them. Where is that guy these days?

Sorry for OT but i think that it was a shame that Anthony stopped rallying, because in the late 2005 he started to get the grip on things. I think he would be faster than Wilson.

[Barreis]

True.

[WRCfan]

Thinking of those who are no longer in the sport, was watching WRC footage and spotted a interview with Manfred Stohl. Loved the way this guy was always so happy, and was never a time he didn't have a big smile on his face. Would be great to see him back in at the top level!

[Barreis]

He's driving Austrian championship these days.

[Mirek]

Now he's working on conversion of 207 S2000 to electric powered rally car...

[WRCfan]

Wow he is a busy man then. I do miss seeing him around although hopefully sometime soon there is a possibility we will spot him once again...

[Barreis]

OMV quit sponsorships on WRC and that's his main sponsor.

[6789]

Gigi to drive Ford Fiesta WRC

http://bit.ly/esCKR0

My Italian isn't very good at all, I think it says he might compete in Italy? Could be an April foolsfor all I know

[Barreis]

Awaken.

[alleskids]

After almost three years to stop, for Gigi Galli 's time may finally be the great comeback in the world of rally. It is rumored, in fact, that the G Sports Car of George Molinaro is doing everything possible to bring Italy in a Ford Fiesta RS WRC to be given to the fastest driver from Livigno.

Currently there are no official confirmation. In fact, originally there was talk of a possible debut at the Rally of Sardinia, Italy, eventuality, however, ruled out a priori view of the limited time. In any case it seems that the project is going forward with the desire to be serious all the stakeholders.

Even Malcolm Wilson , in fact, would be thrilled to be able to provide a vehicle for Galli , remembering the good things that the Italian driver managed to do in 2008 with the Ford Focus WRC run by Stobart , before obtaining the fracture of the femur with an accident in Germany.

[Barreis]

Still remember his 3th place in Sweden 2008..

[darkstar]

it would be so cool if he would come back!

[Andre Oliveira]

Nice to see Gigi again, a true show driver.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewxrNSOKFow

[PLuto]

I think Gigi has lost his chances in previous years. In some things he is like Duval. Consumptioned big talent...

[Barreis]

He can still drive.

[Allyc85]

Agreed, fingers crossed they can get a drive sorted!

[PLuto]

He can still drive. But he has lost lot of chances to be in...

[Micke_VOC]

Patrik Flodin is searching for a S2000 drive in Sardinia maybe in a Prodrive Mini ?

Because he tested the Mini WRC yesterday ... =)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nY_aOfVtZWM/TZyIEHdGrMI/AAAAAAAAAm0/CAXR-J-Tnxk/s1600/image-upload-91-779629.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HHUeE9yag1Y/TZyHfBRiz8I/AAAAAAAAAms/F3jA3IRGtq8/s1600/image-upload-14-730661.jpg

[mm1]

I would welcom him back, his got something the current wrc misses - character!

[pantealex]

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2011/Pages/wrc-2011-ent-upd2.aspx

FIA WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP FOR MANUFACTURERS
LIST OF ENTRANTS - UPDATED
37 MINI WRC TEAM

52 MINI WRC TEAM

[tfp]

I would welcom him back, his got something the current wrc misses - character!
+1
Bring back Gronholm aswell:-)

[Plan9]

Do you guys reckon that the WRC is heading in the right direction. I just read the following story about next years calendar and it has me worried. I think that its success is dependent on attracting many exicting events around the world. I hope the lack of events does not lead to the WRc's downfall.

Here is the story:

http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/twelve_rallies_for_wrc_2012_calendar/

[Hartusvuori]

I hope the lack of events does not lead to the WRc's downfall.

What you mean with lack of events? Okey, 12 is less than 16 we had a couple of years back, but it still is enough - and with Abu Dhabi, Mexico, New Zealand and Argentina on the calender it hardly is European-only WRC. To me the proposed calendar looks fine. Any calendar with NZ on it should be considered interesting.

[pino]

Gigi to drive Ford Fiesta WRC

http://bit.ly/esCKR0

My Italian isn't very good at all, I think it says he might compete in Italy? Could be an April foolsfor all I know


Gigi will not be in Sardinia but he's working in order to get back in action as soon as possible ;)


http://www.rallyemotion.it/news/748-wrc-gigi-galli-conferma-stiamo-lavorando-per-rientrare

[Barreis]

+1
Bring back Gronholm aswell:-)

+1

[Roy]

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2011/Pages/wrc_entries_ita.aspx

2 things of Manu. entry Italy.

Is Henning out of money? Matthew Wilson is in car #5

Mini WRC team car 37 and 52

[6789]

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2011/Pages/wrc_entries_ita.aspx

2 things of Manu. entry Italy.

Is Henning out of money? Matthew Wilson is in car #5
Mini WRC team car 37 and 52

Matt is nominated because of his recent pace ;)

[GigiGalliNo1]

Gigi!!!!!! :D

[Barreis]

The puncher.

[eppel]

http://bloggfiler.no/poweredbypekka.blogg.no/images/665096-1-1302127720645.jpg

[Barreis]

He's good businessman.

[N.O.T]

far better than the 3 colour one.

[alleskids]

Henning is forming a new rallyteam inside Stobart: Solberg World Rally Team 2011? Henning does a suberb job in finding big and a lot of smaller sponsors. Expert is also stil hanging on the car

[Micke_VOC]

Flodin will drive a Mini WRC for Grifone team in Sardinia =)
Good news !!
http://www.patrikflodin.com/nyheter.htm

[Barreis]

Good for him and also for Prodrive. More informations.

[Brother John]

Flodin will drive a Mini WRC for Grifone team in Sardinia =)
Good news !!
http://www.patrikflodin.com/nyheter.htm

Yes good news to see him whit a wrc car.

[Barreis]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90698

[Motorsportfun]

NOKIA new sponsor of the WRC???

[Barreis]

No sign on wrc.com on place where sponsors are.

[Motorsportfun]

No sign on wrc.com on place where sponsors are.

Press conference scenery, start of the shakedown stage... :D

[Barreis]

Didn't watch.

[tmx]

NOKIA new sponsor of the WRC??? Yes I notice it too. Sorry to be off topic, but by my chance of buying any Nokia in the future is next to nil. They're used to be an open source company, but recently had a Microsoft exec as their CEO and made a deal with Microsoft to make Windows Phone 7 phones and also considering close sourcing Symbian. Also seem to have dropped their Maemo/Meego development. Doesn't seem promising ahead.

Other than that it is good for the WRC to have another sponsor and very internationally known. Although I thought the side road banners were enough, they had to actually watermark the logo at some points. They should be promoting it like giving away phones or something.

[tmx]

NOKIA new sponsor of the WRC??? Yes I notice it too. Sorry to be off topic, but by my chance of buying any Nokia in the future is next to nil. They're used to be an open source company, but recently had a Microsoft exec as their CEO and made a deal with Microsoft to make Windows Phone 7 phones and also considering close sourcing Symbian. Also seem to have dropped their Maemo/Meego development. Doesn't seem promising ahead.

Other than that it is good for the WRC to have another sponsor. Although I though the side road banners were enough, they had to actually watermark the logo. They should be promoting it like giving away phones or something.

[bowler]

Are the banners supplied by Rally Jordan or the WRC?

If they are a local sponsor they will still be on the stages, with no commitment to the WRC

[Motorsportfun]

Are the banners supplied by Rally Jordan or the WRC?

If they are a local sponsor they will still be on the stages, with no commitment to the WRC

There's no local logo on jordanrally.com... so, maybe it's like Delphi in Portugal.

[alleskids]

Nokia's logo was seen several times during some tv screans, while showing the map site of the Jordan rally, stages and number kilometres etc.

[tfp]

Nokia's logo was seen several times during some tv screans, while showing the map site of the Jordan rally, stages and number kilometres etc.

I noticed it pop up on the power stage aswel.

[Barreis]

Good for the sport.

[Motorsportfun]

look at the t-shirt of the man who interviews Daniel Oliveira in the facebook gallery of Brazil WRT... there's the NOKIA logo on the wrc staff's t-shirts too!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Apple would be better! haha

Probably Nokia because they're Finnish! :D

[fastboy]

Some good news coming from chris atkinson about his wrc future.Would think the car in question would probably be the mini wrc.

Hi All,


Firstly apologies I haven't been in contact for a while, as usual my team and I have been working our butts off trying to chase a route back into the WRC. Things are looking a lot more promising than 12 months ago but I don't want to jinks anything as we're still trying to put a decent deal together... Hopefully for some events this year but I guess time will tell which is kinda frustrating! Will certainly keep you all posted!


Anyway I finally broke a pretty big drought by taking victory in Malaysia a couple of weeks ago with Proton. That was a pretty cool feeling to be back in the winners circle and especially against a decent field with the likes of Alister McRae, Mark Higgins and Cody Crocker in the mix! Plus we won for a Malaysian manufacturer in Malaysia so you can imagine how crazy the fans went!


So I'm getting right into the social side of the media now.. hooked up a twitter account (@ChrisAtko) and a new Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/AtkoWRC if you want to check um' out!!


Any questions or stuff you want to ask just fire me a post on the new FB page guys! Getting onto the Autograph Cards too for all of you who have requested them.


Take it easy legends,


Atko

[Plan9]

Why would it be a Mini?

[tfp]

Would be good to see atkinson back in WRC

[Zeakiwi]

Why would it be a Mini?

Atko in a Mini because 1) He has the links with Prodrive 2) 4x4 Mini probably has a market niche in Australia 3) Ford in Australia tends to go for the V8s for marketing and other non-rally sports. $) Some Aussies have the means to purchase a new car.

Maybe DR should get Fan Fan to team with Atko for a team.
Given how many Beemers are sold in China.
http://www.carnewschina.com/bmw-2010-sales-in-china-up-87-percent/

[cosmicpanda]

Any calendar with NZ on it should be considered interesting.

You, sir, have good taste.

[Plan9]

Atko in a Mini because 1) He has the links with Prodrive 2) 4x4 Mini probably has a market niche in Australia 3) Ford in Australia tends to go for the V8s for marketing and other non-rally sports. $) Some Aussies have the means to purchase a new car.

Maybe DR should get Fan Fan to team with Atko for a team.
Given how many Beemers are sold in China.
http://www.carnewschina.com/bmw-2010-sales-in-china-up-87-percent/

These are all nice things, having said that I think any effort by Atko would be mostly self funded meaning he probably wouldn't be able to afford a mini, which costs 10,000 (Euro) more than the ford. At a guess I'd say Australians couldn't give a **** about Mini so their major companies would not bother to sponsor him either. If he does get to wrc it will be a 1 off thing as all the decent cars will be going to the Oliveria's of the world who have deeper pockets; which DR desperately needs.

[6789]

These are all nice things, having said that I think any effort by Atko would be mostly self funded meaning he probably wouldn't be able to afford a mini, which costs 10,000 (Euro) more than the ford. At a guess I'd say Australians couldn't give a **** about Mini so their major companies would not bother to sponsor him either. If he does get to wrc it will be a 1 off thing as all the decent cars will be going to the Oliveria's of the world who have deeper pockets; which DR desperately needs.

I agree, maybe he'll just do rally Aus since he would have done those roads around Coffs?

I think Ford would be better marketing wise in Australia

[Plan9]

We don't really have any real evidence that he will be doing anything related the wrc yet do we?? I think it might be best to wait and see.
I guess winning Malaysia in a Proton is pretty special but I'm not sure how much of the rest of the world cares (I think this is his first win anywhere in a very long time as well)

[tfp]

We don't really have any real evidence that he will be doing anything related the wrc yet do we?? I think it might be best to wait and see.
I guess winning Malaysia in a Proton is pretty special but I'm not sure how much of the rest of the world cares (I think this is his first win anywhere in a very long time as well)

He should join Monster world rally team:-)

[Plan9]

He should join Monster world rally team:-)

+1 yes that would be awesome!!!!!

[Tomi]

He should join Monster world rally team:-)

Why did he not already? I remember before this season when there was some rumours here on this forum that Kimi would drive for Monster, some cry baby complained that kimi is stealing Atkinsons seat.

[6789]

Why did he not already? I remember before this season when there was some rumours here on this forum that Kimi would drive for Monster, some cry baby complained that kimi is stealing Atkinsons seat.
That was probably me lol. Just want to see an Aussie in there, its different for Fins i know with it being so popular but it makes it more interesting for us

[Motorsportfun]

From http://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com

http://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com/2011/images/tabella_wrc1.png

[tfp]

Why did he not already? I remember before this season when there was some rumours here on this forum that Kimi would drive for Monster, some cry baby complained that kimi is stealing Atkinsons seat.

I thought I heard something, but couldnt remember properly.
They obviously get on well togethor outside of cometition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQgmdHzqtqA
That is a good start to setting up a succesful team I guess!

[Mirek]

Josef Semerád (father of Martin) is going to use DMack asphalt WRC tyres this weekend in Rally Lužické Hory (CZ) as a part of their testing. I think that it's going to be their premiere.

[Hartusvuori]

FIA is considering a change to the current running order rule, perhaps bringing it back to the top 15 reversed on Day 2 onwards as it were until 2008. Change could happen as early as Sardegna. Quesnel is in favour of the rule change, Wilson not so much.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90898