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Kaps
12th January 2009, 17:38
I think we should welcome a great name from WRC history to the forums! Greetings, Fred.
Indeed we should!
I can't believe this age we live in!
If I could do that back in the 80's & 90's (I mean make contact with such people) it would blew my mind!
Even now it feels very nice!
So, welcome Fred!
Fred Gallagher
12th January 2009, 18:08
Indeed we should!
I can't believe this age we live in!
If I could do that back in the 80's & 90's (I mean make contact with such people) it would blew my mind!
Even now it feels very nice!
So, welcome Fred!
I'm starting to get embarassed here! Thanks Kaps.
My co-driving days are long gone (Dakar 2001 was the last). Now I organise events and do some stewarding.
My hobby is rally history, mostly 1945 to 1972, but of course all the other stuff too so this is a good place to be.
Thanks again.
Fred
Loris A+
12th January 2009, 18:38
Thanks Fred !!!!!!!!
Please help me with this results
1950 Sestriere 21- 22 January
Started 132 Arrived ? 2910 km
1° Emilio Christillin / Sandro Fiorio Lancia Aurelia GT
2° Emanuele Nasi / ? ? Fiat 1500 E
3° Emanuele Sartorio / ? ? Fiat 500 C
4° ? Ymot / ? ? Panhard Dyna
5° ? Locatelli / ? ? Studebacker
6° Ken Wharton / JJ. Langelaan Ford Pilot V8
7° ? ?
8° ? ?
9° ? ?
10° ? ?
1951 Sestriere date ???
Started ? Arrived ? Km ?]
1 Villoresi – Ascari Aurelia
2 Brignone – Rabezzana Fiat 1400 Cabriolet
3 Piodi – Frajria // //
4 ????
5 ????
6 ????
7 ????
8 ????
9 ????
10 ???
1952 Sestriere ? - ? February
Started ? Arrived ? Km ?
1° Gino Valenzano / Mario Poltronieri Lancia Aurelia B20
2° H. von Der Muhle/ ? Guilleaume Porsche 356 Coupè
3° Helmuth Polensky / Graf von Berkleim Porsche 356 Coupè
4° ? Bertone / ? Reynaldi Lancia Aurelia
5° R. Priodi / ?. Frajria Lancia Aurelia
6° ?. Fusar Poli / ?. Zagato Lancia Aurelia
7° Ferdinando Gatta / ? . Orlandi Fiat 1400
8° ? ? / ? ? ?
9° ? ? / ? ? ?
10° ?? / ?? ?
SESTRIERE ??/??/1954
Started ? Arrived ? Km ?
1). Valenzano/Sposetti, car ?????
2). Brignone/Meregalli, car ?????
3). Giuseppe Marazana/Carlotti, car ????
4). Paul Guiraud/H.A. Beau, car ????
5). Finacci/Munaron, car ????
6). Heinrich/Theden, car ?????
7).Werner Engel/G. Ambrecht – Porsche 356,
8). Buffa/Carabelli – Lancia appia,
9). Giletti/Cinti – Lancia Aurelia,
10). Crotti/Sassi – Lancia Appia.
Thanks in advance
Fred Gallagher
12th January 2009, 20:57
Not sure about 1950 but think I have the rest.....
....however, I have a real busy period coming up starting tomorrow so it may take a while. Remind me if it's not posted in 3 or 4 weeks.
Fred
Loris A+
12th January 2009, 21:27
Not sure about 1950 but think I have the rest.....
....however, I have a real busy period coming up starting tomorrow so it may take a while. Remind me if it's not posted in 3 or 4 weeks.
Fred
Sorry i don't understand i'm Italian please uses english more easy.
Sorry for very bad english !!!! :eek:
llgc8080
18th January 2009, 01:33
Hello.
I'm new here.
I'm searching for champions results previous 1970 (rallybase).
I have a few questions:
There was an international rally championship like 1970-1972?
Or continental/regional championships?
Do you have the champions (drivers/engines) for those previous years?
Thanks a lot.
llgc8080
18th January 2009, 01:34
Sorry i don't understand i'm Italian please uses english more easy.
Sorry for very bad english !!!! :eek:
In two weeks write to him again.
To remember it.
Carles Bosch 02
18th January 2009, 10:03
Hello.
I'm new here.
I'm searching for champions results previous 1970 (rallybase).
I have a few questions:
There was an international rally championship like 1970-1972?
Or continental/regional championships?
Do you have the champions (drivers/engines) for those previous years?
Thanks a lot.
As far as I know, the first ever international rally championship was in 1953 and up to 1967 this championships were held only for drivers, not constructors. The winners list list is as follows:
'53, Helmut Polensky (Porsche & Fiat), 44 pts
Greta Molander (Ladies: Saab)
'54, Walter Schlüter (DKW), 37 pts
Sheila Van Damm (Ladies: Sunbeam-Talbot), 30 pts
'55, Werner Engel (Mercedes-Benz)
Sheila Van Damm (Ladies: Sunbeam-Talbot)
'56, Walter Schock (Mercedes-Benz)
Nancy Mitchell (Ladies: MG)
'57, Ruprecht Hopfen (Saab & Borgward)
Nancy Mitchell (Ladies: MG)
'58, Gunnar Andersson (Volvo)
Pat Moss (Ladies: Morris, Riley, MG & Austin-Healey)
'59, Paul Coltelloni (Citroën & Alfa Romeo)
Annie Soisbault (Ladies: Triumph)
'60, Walter Schock (Mercedes-Benz)
Pat Moss (Ladies: Austin & Austin-Healey)
'61, Hans-Joachim Walter (Panhard, Porsche & VW)
Ewy Rosqvist (Ladies: Volvo)
'62, Eugen Böhringer (Mercedes-Benz)
Pat Moss (Ladies: Morris & Austin-Healey)
'63, Gunnar Andersson (Volvo)
Sylvia Österberg (Ladies: Volvo)
'64, Tom Trana (Volvo)
Pat Moss-Carlsson (Ladies: Saab)
'65, Rauno Aaltonen (Austin & Morris)
'66, Lille-Bror Nasenius (Group 1: Opel)
Sobieslaw Zasada (Group 2: Steyr-Puch)
Günther Klass (Group 3: Porsche)
'67, Sobieslaw Zasada (Group 1: Porsche)
Bengt Söderström (Group 2: Ford)
Vic Elford (Group 3: Porsche)
1968 & 1969:
'68, ERC for Constructors: Ford, 45 pts
ERC for Drivers: Pauli Toivonen (Porsche)
'69, ERC for Constructors: Ford, 38 pts
ERC for Drivers: Harry Källström (Lancia)
Carles.
llgc8080
18th January 2009, 10:40
As far as I know, the first ever international rally championship was in 1953 and up to 1967 this championships were held only for drivers, not constructors. The winners list list is as follows:
'53, Helmut Polensky (Porsche & Fiat), 44 pts
Greta Molander (Ladies: Saab)
'54, Walter Schlüter (DKW), 37 pts
Sheila Van Damm (Ladies: Sunbeam-Talbot), 30 pts
'55, Werner Engel (Mercedes-Benz)
Sheila Van Damm (Ladies: Sunbeam-Talbot)
'56, Walter Schock (Mercedes-Benz)
Nancy Mitchell (Ladies: MG)
'57, Ruprecht Hopfen (Saab & Borgward)
Nancy Mitchell (Ladies: MG)
'58, Gunnar Andersson (Volvo)
Pat Moss (Ladies: Morris, Riley, MG & Austin-Healey)
'59, Paul Coltelloni (Citroën & Alfa Romeo)
Annie Soisbault (Ladies: Triumph)
'60, Walter Schock (Mercedes-Benz)
Pat Moss (Ladies: Austin & Austin-Healey)
'61, Hans-Joachim Walter (Panhard, Porsche & VW)
Ewy Rosqvist (Ladies: Volvo)
'62, Eugen Böhringer (Mercedes-Benz)
Pat Moss (Ladies: Morris & Austin-Healey)
'63, Gunnar Andersson (Volvo)
Sylvia Österberg (Ladies: Volvo)
'64, Tom Trana (Volvo)
Pat Moss-Carlsson (Ladies: Saab)
'65, Rauno Aaltonen (Austin & Morris)
'66, Lille-Bror Nasenius (Group 1: Opel)
Sobieslaw Zasada (Group 2: Steyr-Puch)
Günther Klass (Group 3: Porsche)
'67, Sobieslaw Zasada (Group 1: Porsche)
Bengt Söderström (Group 2: Ford)
Vic Elford (Group 3: Porsche)
1968 & 1969:
'68, ERC for Constructors: Ford, 45 pts
ERC for Drivers: Pauli Toivonen (Porsche)
'69, ERC for Constructors: Ford, 38 pts
ERC for Drivers: Harry Källström (Lancia)
Carles.
Thank you Carles, very appreciated!
Louis.
llgc8080
18th January 2009, 11:42
ERC for European? Sorry about this dumb question.
jrally
18th January 2009, 13:30
Yes, European Rally Championship !
jorge
llgc8080
18th January 2009, 13:38
Yes, European Rally Championship !
jorge
Thanks Jorge. :)
Louis.
FAL
18th January 2009, 21:37
Now, back to my question, does anyone know the start and finish locations for the last five 2007 WRC rallies (Catalunya, Corse, Japan, Ireland & Wales)?
And for all 2008 WRC rallies?
Thank you!
For Wales Rally GB you can now ask the organiser - Mr Gallagher!
(It's Swansea). To explain the current name, "Rally GB" is the title the FIA require to be used but it is called "Wales Rally GB" not because it runs in Wales but because its sponsor is the Wales regional government.
llgc8080
18th January 2009, 22:38
It's a shame that History part I is no longer online...
Kaps
19th January 2009, 22:29
For Wales Rally GB you can now ask the organiser - Mr Gallagher!
(It's Swansea). To explain the current name, "Rally GB" is the title the FIA require to be used but it is called "Wales Rally GB" not because it runs in Wales but because its sponsor is the Wales regional government.
Swansea? What year, '07 or '08?
I believe the '07 was Cardiff, and the Ireland '07 started at Stormont and finished at Mullaghmore. Is this right?
LCSA
22nd January 2009, 22:56
For those who like Rally history, you can visite the above link, where you can find hundreads of Raly Portugal pictures from decades ago until now. I am a user of that website, the portuguese Autosport and there are great rally fans there who upload their own pictures of the portuguese Rally history.
It worth the visit, because they identify places like Arganil or Fafe.
http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?sid=as.sections/134&page=1
Enjoy
LCSA
llgc8080
25th January 2009, 14:09
It's a shame that "History part I" is no longer online...
No chance at all to get those files to read? :(
Kaps
27th January 2009, 22:08
Which teams were "M2" teams in 2007 World rally Championship?
And did they have to contest at least 10 WRC rounds, like in 2006, or all of them, like M1 teams?
Kaps
30th January 2009, 13:01
Never mind that, got the answer in another thread.
BDunnell
1st February 2009, 02:25
This question is a bit obscure, and I just ask it out of interest. In 1982, Timo Salonen is listed on Rallybase as taking part in, apparently, three different types of Datsun — the Violet GTS, Silvia Turbo and Violet GT. I believe the car in which he competed on the 1982 Portuguese Rally, given on Rallybase as a Violet GTS, was making its WRC debut on that event. The turbocharged car with which he tackled the 1000 Lakes (see it on video here — http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SbgwoVUxWYw) looks very similar to the model he drove in Portugal (video of it here — http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ALrrlhQfVfA — described as a 'Silvia Twin-Cam'). I have never seen a picture or film of his RAC car from '82, which Rallybase calls a Violet GT, the same designation as the Datsuns that Salonen had driven in '81, but which I assume wasn't the same model.
Basically, does anyone know why so many different model names were used — and why the turbo car apparently only made one appearance? I know the 240RS was in development for '83, but am still surprised that the turbo Silvia didn't at least have an outing on the '82 RAC — unless it did!
FAL
1st February 2009, 20:10
Salonen was in a Group 4 Violet GT on the 82 RAC, but Andy Dawson drove an "official" Silvia Turbo. I can't claim to be a Datsun/Nissan expert and I saw very little of the works cars on the 82 RAC, as I was running at the other end of the field.
Half the time Datsuns seemed to be called something different in the UK from elsewhere, which doesn't help. This was also a transition period. The 82 RAC was the last outing for "official" Datsuns run by Dawson's outfit - Bill Blydenstein took over in 83.
It was also a transition period for FIA Appendix J. The new Groups N/A/B had come in for 82 but old Gp2 and 4 (but not Gp1) cars were allowed to run on for a year (82) (to help keep entries up). At very short notice, the old Gps 2 and 4 were then allowed to run on for another year (83) but I think they were then restricted to non-FIA A (and B?) seeded drivers.
Unfortunately, Rallysport magazine only started publishing a photo of every car on the RAC the next year, 83, and doesn't have one of Salonen (No.12) in 82. (Salonen retired in Hafren after breaking a halfshaft when in 7th place and not being able to climb a hill).
I can't find a photo but one report does say it was Salonen's first outing in a Violet in 82.
januszsz
3rd February 2009, 14:22
Few question on a quite new history.
I am looking for first name of:
GB'08 S. Suhonen - a co-driver to Heikki Westerlund (no66) on the entry list paired with Tommi Luostarinen (no66)
IRL'09 E'08 - MJ Morrisey - a co driver to Eamonn Boland ( I met also Damien Morrisey and Michael Morrisey co-driving Mr.Boland)
I'06 - who co-drove Stefano Benoni (no90): Enrico Cantoni or Roberto Peroglio?
F'06 - who co-drove Frederic Andreucci (no85): J-Michel Perrin or Gilbert Dini?
E'05 - who co-drove David Fontclara (no93): P.Gonzalez (first name needed)or Josep maria Regordosa?
J'08 - who co-drove Gianluca Linari (no34): Matteo Braga or Roberto Mometti?
Regards
Janusz
jrally
4th February 2009, 14:50
Few question on a quite new history.
I am looking for first name of:
GB'08 S. Suhonen - a co-driver to Heikki Westerlund (no66) on the entry list paired with Tommi Luostarinen (no66)
IRL'09 E'08 - MJ Morrisey - a co driver to Eamonn Boland ( I met also Damien Morrisey and Michael Morrisey co-driving Mr.Boland)
I'06 - who co-drove Stefano Benoni (no90): Enrico Cantoni or Roberto Peroglio?
F'06 - who co-drove Frederic Andreucci (no85): J-Michel Perrin or Gilbert Dini?
E'05 - who co-drove David Fontclara (no93): P.Gonzalez (first name needed)or Josep maria Regordosa?
J'08 - who co-drove Gianluca Linari (no34): Matteo Braga or Roberto Mometti?
Regards
Janusz
Hi Janusz,
Here what I have !
GB 08 - Seppo Suhonen
IRL 09 - Mick Morrisey
I06 - Enrico Cantoni
F06 - Jean Michel Perrin
E05 - Pablo Gonzalez (didn't start)
J08 - Matteo Braga
Regards
jorge
BDunnell
4th February 2009, 22:55
Salonen was in a Group 4 Violet GT on the 82 RAC, but Andy Dawson drove an "official" Silvia Turbo. I can't claim to be a Datsun/Nissan expert and I saw very little of the works cars on the 82 RAC, as I was running at the other end of the field.
Half the time Datsuns seemed to be called something different in the UK from elsewhere, which doesn't help. This was also a transition period. The 82 RAC was the last outing for "official" Datsuns run by Dawson's outfit - Bill Blydenstein took over in 83.
It was also a transition period for FIA Appendix J. The new Groups N/A/B had come in for 82 but old Gp2 and 4 (but not Gp1) cars were allowed to run on for a year (82) (to help keep entries up). At very short notice, the old Gps 2 and 4 were then allowed to run on for another year (83) but I think they were then restricted to non-FIA A (and B?) seeded drivers.
Unfortunately, Rallysport magazine only started publishing a photo of every car on the RAC the next year, 83, and doesn't have one of Salonen (No.12) in 82. (Salonen retired in Hafren after breaking a halfshaft when in 7th place and not being able to climb a hill).
I can't find a photo but one report does say it was Salonen's first outing in a Violet in 82.
Thanks FAL. I was hoping you would answer!
januszsz
5th February 2009, 11:14
Hi Janusz,
Here what I have !
GB 08 - Seppo Suhonen
IRL 09 - Mick Morrisey
I06 - Enrico Cantoni
F06 - Jean Michel Perrin
E05 - Pablo Gonzalez (didn't start)
J08 - Matteo Braga
Regards
jorge
Thank you Jorge!
There is a question on Morrisey. As I wrote above sometimes appears certain Damien Morrisey, sometimes Michael (Mick) Morrisey and sometimes MJ Morrisey. Is it the same person or there are more Morrseys co-driving Boland?
Regards
Janusz
Fred Gallagher
5th February 2009, 15:45
Thank you Jorge!
There is a question on Morrisey. As I wrote above sometimes appears certain Damien Morrisey, sometimes Michael (Mick) Morrisey and sometimes MJ Morrisey. Is it the same person or there are more Morrseys co-driving Boland?
Regards
Janusz
I have asked a friend in Ireland who tells me:
"Boland's normal co-driver is Damien Morrisey. If Damien can't go his father Michael Morrisey sits with Boland."
Hope this helps.
Fred
januszsz
6th February 2009, 14:29
I have asked a friend in Ireland who tells me:
"Boland's normal co-driver is Damien Morrisey. If Damien can't go his father Michael Morrisey sits with Boland."
Hope this helps.
Fred
Thank you very much Fred for explanation.
Now I would like to know who (father or son Morrisey) co-drove Eamonn Boland during following WRC rounds:
2008 Catalunya
2008 Wales GB
2009 Ireland
Regards
Janusz
Fred Gallagher
6th February 2009, 14:46
Thank you very much Fred for explanation.
Now I would like to know who (father or son Morrisey) co-drove Eamonn Boland during following WRC rounds:
2008 Catalunya
2008 Wales GB
2009 Ireland
Regards
Janusz
For me it's Michael in Spain '08 and Damien in GB '08 and Ireland '09.
Fred
RobertS
6th February 2009, 19:52
7. YU Rallye 1973
European Rallye Campionship
7. YU Rallye 11-13 May 1973:
1 Donatella Tominz - Gabriella Mamolo "Squaw", I, Fiat Abarth 124 Rallye, 8092pts.
2 Attila Ferjáncz - Jenő Zsemberi, H, Renault 12 Gordini, 8508pts.
3 Jaroslav Jelinek - Svatopluk Kvaizar, CS, Skoda 120S Rallye, 8525pts.
4 Egon Culmbacher – Ernst Werner, GDR, Wartburg 353, 9320pts.
5 Kalfried Weigert – Harald Wuru, GDR, Wartburg 353, 9502pts.
6 Eberhard Asmus – Christian Meischner , GDR, Trabant P601, 12411pts.
7 Stojan Kolev - Georgi Malkamov, BG, Renault 12 Gordini, 13054pts.
8 Petar Kolic - Milivoje Nektarijevic, YU, BMW 2002ti, 15530pts.
9 Ivan Matosevic - Aleksander Vucekovic, YU, VW 1300, 21173pts.
Stadium Tasmaj, Beograd
R12 - Chubrikov, R12 - Ferjáncz, Abarth - Pinto, Abarth - Donatella Tominz
http://renaultgordini.hu/galery/ferjancz_zsembery/img027.jpg
7. YU Rallye 1973
Renault 12 Gordini, Ferjáncz Attila - Zsemberi Jenő
http://renaultgordini.hu/galery/ferjancz_zsembery/img011.jpg
http://renaultgordini.hu/galery/ferjancz_zsembery/img029.jpg
I am looking for infos about this rallye, especionally the winner - Tominz-Mamolo Fiath 124 Abarth.
I heard, they run out of fuel 60km before the finish on the road sectiona, They had "help" from one of the next teams....
Donatella Tominz in the Tasmajdan stadium
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3273/49922716hb2.jpg
Gabrielle Mamolo, Bulgarian Iliya Chubrikov, Hungarian Zsembery Jenő - codriver of Ferjáncz, Donatella Tominz
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5736/dtbk2.jpg
RobertS
6th February 2009, 20:13
Also, I am looking for more detailed results of:
18. YU Rallye 14th-16th September 1984
1 Franz Wittmann/Joerg Patermann Audi Quattro
2 Robert Droogmans/Ronny Joosten Porsche 911 SC
3 Attila Ferjancz/Janos Tandari Renault 5 Turbo
4 Klaus Fischer/Ferdinand Huinterleitner Mitsubishi Lancer
5 Branislav Kizmic/Rudi Šali Renault 5 Turbo
6 Blazej Krupa/Pavel Mistovski Renault 11 Turbo
7 Manolis Halivelaikis/Georgios Halivelaikis Ford Escort 2000
8 Dimitri Prokopiu/Costas Stelios Opel Ascona 2.0
9 Dieter Klaus Kruegel/Dieter Schenk Wartburg 353
10 Jakob Valant/Andrej Patarcic Zastava GT 65
Has anybody entry-list, stage-times ?
Few photos from my archive:
14 - Manolis Halivelaikis - Georgios Halivelaikis Ford Escort
7 - Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten Porsche 911SC
.. - Blazej Krupa - Pavel Mistkovski Renault 11 Turbo
3 - Attila Ferjancz - Janos Tandari Renault 5 Turbo
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8963/28651143dm6.jpg
And the happy winner - Franz Wittmann:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3236/36747998qv1.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4753/80828872ps3.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7345/87690216fe0.jpg
urabus-denoS2000
6th February 2009, 22:13
Hi RobertS
Unfortunately these infos are EXTREMELY hard to find,I can only advise some contacts
http://rally.avtomanija.com/
This is the website of a Slovenian car-magazine which was extremely popular in Yugoslavia and dedicated a lot of pages to Yugoslavian motorsport.
They still run,if anyone has some infos they must be the ones...
The following sites hardly have these infos,but if you are desperate....
I can put your requests to www.desno4.com (http://www.desno4.com) (register) ,the biggest Croatian forum but I doubt you will find any infos there
http://www.autoklub.hr/ is a old Croatian newspapaer who used to follow our motorsport (now very little pages)
http://www.automototrend.com.hr/ a magazine which followed rallying a lot but then it stopped publishing,now its a website
www.pungas.com (http://www.pungas.com) great forum,but little activity lately
RobertS
9th February 2009, 23:09
Unfortunately these infos are EXTREMELY hard to find
I hope, there were a lot of rallye-funs there with camera..... ;)
The works Fiat 124 Abarths, ladies team....these were extremely rare ocassions in the early 70s in Yugoslavia.
And Donatella Tominz won.
It was a big news in whole Europe.
I think the real problem is - these guys who were there on this rallye are far from the Net today...... :(
Must to be a lot of photos, memories about this rallye there....
Thank you very much for your help!
Best Regards
RobertS
urabus-denoS2000
9th February 2009, 23:26
I think the real problem is - these guys who were there on this rallye are far from the Net today...... :(
Must to be a lot of photos, memories about this rallye there....
Best Regards
RobertS
Of course :(
Did you contact rally.avtomanija.com ?
There should be a good chance that they have photos?
RobertS
10th February 2009, 00:33
Did you contact rally.avtomanija.com ?
Not yet. I send a letter tonight.
RobertS
10th February 2009, 00:37
If anybody has infos Rallye Hebros 1982, help please.....
http://forum.rally-club.bg/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6069
1982 Rallye Hebros
852 km, 3 Legs, 30 special-stages 295 km (168 km gravel + 127 km tarmac)
60 starters, 24 finished
1. Attila Ferjáncz - János Tandari Dr. H Renault-5Turbo 3h 36m 15s
2. Radoslav Petkov - Hristo Stoichev BG Porsche 911SC 3h 41m 21s
3. Blazej Krupa - Piotr Mystkowski PL Renault-5Alpine 3h 47m 17s
4. Andreas Papatriantafilolu - Halis GR Toyota Celica 3h 50m 14s
5. Halivelakis - Emmanouil(?) Halivelakis GR Ford Escort 3h 52m 01s
6. Manolis Halivelakis - Petropulos GR Toyota Corolla 3h 53m 49s
7. Gürsel - Unal TR Fiat-131Abarth 4h 04m 08s
8. Kuznyecov - Bogdanov BG Lada 4h 10m 37s
9. Apostolov - Apostolova BG Skoda 130RS 4h 11m 05s
10. Andrejev - Andrejev BG Skoda 130RS 4h 12m 09s
Stage winners: Ferjáncz 22, Petkov 3, Halivelakis(Ford Escort) 3, Nikolov 2
Winner - Attila Ferjáncz-János Tandari Dr. from Hungary
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3585/hb22resizezk1.jpg
03 - ?? - Licence plate: HER-RS 5
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3614/hb18dv1.jpg
Ps.: R5Alpine = RobertS.... :)
Giorgio
10th February 2009, 22:46
Does anyone knows the 4° and 5° classified, km. totales and various cities for start ?
15 maggio 1953
Portugal
??° Rally de Lisboa
Start: various european cities: ???????????????????
Finish: Lisboa
km. ???
grand touring cars - touring cars
european touring championship
international rally
Results:
1. Joaquim Filipe Nogueira (Porsche ?????)
2. Ian Appleyard - Pat Appleyard (Jaguar XK120)
3. Helmut Polensky - Walter Schluter (Porsche ?????)
4. ????? ?????? - ????? ????? (?????)
5. ????? ?????? - ????? ????? (?????)
Thanks in advance
Giorgio
Carles Bosch 02
11th February 2009, 07:30
Does anyone knows the 4° and 5° classified, km. totales and various cities for start ?
15 maggio 1953 (13th-18th October '53)
Portugal
??° Rally de Lisboa
Start: various european cities: ???????????????????
Finish: Lisboa
km. ???
grand touring cars - touring cars
european touring championship
international rally
Results:
1. Joaquim Filipe Nogueira (Porsche ?????) 356 1500 S
2. Ian Appleyard - Pat Appleyard (Jaguar XK120) DHC (Drophead Coupé)
3. Helmut Polensky - Walter Schluter (Porsche ?????) 356 Coupé 1500 S
4. ????? ?????? - ????? ????? (?????)
5. ????? ?????? - ????? ????? (?????)
Thanks in advance
Giorgio
4th, Goff Imhof / Raymond Baxter, Sunbeam-Talbot 90
5th, John G. & Peter Reece, Ford Zephyr
Starting points: Amsterdam, Bern, Bruxelles, Lisboa, London, Madrid, Milano & Paris
Carles.
Fred Gallagher
11th February 2009, 09:05
The rest of the top ten:
Mrs Nancy Mitchell/Mrs Leavens Ford
Miss Sheila van Damm/Mrs Francoise Clark Sunbeam Talbot
Cuth Harrison/Reg Phillips Ford Zephyr
Ferenando Stock Porsche 356
Jacques Herzet/Lucien Bianchi Ferrari 166 MN
It was the VII Internacional Rallye de Lisboa.
Fred
Giorgio
11th February 2009, 15:31
4th, Goff Imhof / Raymond Baxter, Sunbeam-Talbot 90
5th, John G. & Peter Reece, Ford Zephyr
Starting points: Amsterdam, Bern, Bruxelles, Lisboa, London, Madrid, Milano & Paris
Carles.
Always exhaustive, Carles
Thank you
Giorgio
Giorgio
11th February 2009, 15:34
The rest of the top ten:
Mrs Nancy Mitchell/Mrs Leavens Ford
Miss Sheila van Damm/Mrs Francoise Clark Sunbeam Talbot
Cuth Harrison/Reg Phillips Ford Zephyr
Ferenando Stock Porsche 356
Jacques Herzet/Lucien Bianchi Ferrari 166 MN
It was the VII Internacional Rallye de Lisboa.
Fred
Thank you, Fred
Giorgio
Giorgio
12th February 2009, 19:13
The List is correct ? Some rallyes are missing ?
1953
round 1 -- 18 gennaio 1953 - 23° Rally Monte Carlo
round 2 -- 10 febbraio 1953 - 4° Svenska Rallyt till Midnattssolen - Rally of the Midnight Sun
round 3 -- 26 febbraio - 2 marzo 1953 - 4° Rally del Sestriere
round 4 -- 23-28 marzo 1953 - 11° Rally of Great Britain - RAC Rally
round 5 -- 4-7 giugno 1953 - 3° Internationaler ADAC Rally Travemünde
round 6 -- 10-16 luglio 1953 - 16° Coupe des Alpes
round 7 -- 19 agosto 1953 - 23° Marathon de la Route -- Liège - Rome - Liège
round 8 -- 9 settembre 1953 - 3° Viking Rally
round 9 -- 13-18 ottobre 1953 - 7° Rally de Lisboa
Giorgio
Carles Bosch 02
12th February 2009, 20:59
The List is correct ? Some rallyes are missing ?
1953
round 1 -- 18 gennaio 1953 - 23° Rally Monte Carlo
round 2 -- 10 febbraio 1953 - 4° Svenska Rallyt till Midnattssolen - Rally of the Midnight Sun
round 3 -- 26 febbraio - 2 marzo 1953 - 4° Rally del Sestriere
round 4 -- 23-28 marzo 1953 - 11° Rally of Great Britain - RAC Rally
round 5 -- 4-7 giugno 1953 - 3° Internationaler ADAC Rally Travemünde
round 6 -- 10-16 luglio 1953 - 16° Coupe des Alpes
round 7 -- 19 agosto 1953 - 23° Marathon de la Route -- Liège - Rome - Liège
round 8 -- 9 settembre 1953 - 3° Viking Rally
round 9 -- 13-18 ottobre 1953 - 7° Rally de Lisboa
Giorgio
'53 ERC, according to my database:
1, 23e Rallye Monte-Carlo, 20th-27th January
2, 4º Rallye Sestriere, 26th February - 2nd March
3, 3rd International RAC Rally of Great Britain, 23rd-28th March
4, 5 Tulpen Rallye, 26th April - 2nd May
5, 3 Internationaler ADAC-Rallye Travemünde, 3rd-7th June
6, 4 Svenska Midnattssolen Rallyt, 13th-16th June
7, 16e Rallye International des Alpes, 10th-16th July
8, 12e Liège Rome Liège, 19th-23rd August
9, 3 Rally Viking, 11th-13th September
10, 7º Rallye Lisboa (Estoril), 13th-18th October
Carles.
Giorgio
12th February 2009, 21:19
Thank you, Carles!
Giorgio
Giorgio
13th February 2009, 17:08
Someone knows.....
26 aprile - 2 maggio 1953 - 5° Tulpen Rally
Start: Spa
Finish: Noordwijk
km. 2835
sport cars - touring cars
round 4 - european rally championship
international rally
Results:
1. Graaf Hugo van Zuylen - Frans Eschauzier (Jowett Javelin)
2. Bill Banks - Mike Porter (Bristol)
3. Michel Grosgogeat - Pierre Biagini (Dyna Panhard)
4. ????? ????? - ????? ?????? (????)
5. ????? ????? - ????? ?????? (????)
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13-16 giugno 1953
Sweden
4° Svenska Rallyt till Midnattssolen - Rally of the Midnight Sun
Starting points: Malmö, Stockholm, Sundsvall, Goteborg
Start: Rättvik
Finish: Saltsjöbaden, Stockholm
km. ???
touring cars
round 6 - european rally championship
swedish rally championship
international rally
Results:
1. Sture Nottorp - B????? Jonsson (Porsche 356 1500)
2. John Kvarnstrom - ????? Lundberg (Ford ??)
3. Raymond Sjoqvist - Rune Berggren (Citroen Traction 15-six)
4. ????? ????? - ????? ?????? (????)
5. ????? ????? - ????? ?????? (????)
Thanks in advance
Giorgio
dario
13th February 2009, 22:40
[quote="Giorgio"]Someone knows.....
26 aprile - 2 maggio 1953 - 5° Tulpen Rally
Start: Spa
Finish: Noordwijk
km. 2835
sport cars - touring cars
round 4 - european rally championship
international rally
Results:
1. Graaf Hugo van Zuylen - Frans Eschauzier (Jowett Javelin)
2. Bill Banks - Mike Porter (Bristol)
3. Michel Grosgogeat - Pierre Biagini (Dyna Panhard)
4. A. Jetten - L. Van Noordwijk ( Vauxhall Velox )
5. Ian Appleyard - Patricia Appleyard ( Jaguar Mk 7 )
6. Mario Damonte - Luisa Calligario ( Fiat 8V )
7. T. Koks - Kim De Jong ( VW Beetle )
8. J. Scheffer - G. Willing ( Jowett Javellin )
9. Martin Carstedt - Gully Carstedt ( Simca Aronde )
10. Godfrey Imhof - Stuart Ross ( Allard J 2 )
-------------------------------
13-16 giugno 1953
Sweden
4° Svenska Rallyt till Midnattssolen - Rally of the Midnight Sun
Starting points: Malmö, Stockholm, Sundsvall, Goteborg
Start: Rättvik
Finish: Saltsjöbaden, Stockholm
km. 2310
touring cars
round 6 - european rally championship
swedish rally championship
international rally
Results:
1. Sture Nottorp - Bengt Jonsson (Porsche 356 1500)
2. John Kvarnstrom - Sven Lundberg (Ford Zephyr)
3. Raymond Sjoqvist - Rune Berggren (Citroen Traction 15-six)
4. Arthur Wessbland - Bo Hellberg ( Porsche 356 )
5. Olof Persson - Olof Norrby ( Porsche 356 )
6. O. Stalheim - E. Frank ( Citroen 15 Six )
7. T. Nystrom - T. Sundstrom ( Vauxhall Velox )
8. KE. Andersson - O. Tryggvensson ( Fiat 1100 TV )
9. Rolf Mellde - Helmuth Fahlen ( Saab 93 )
10. J. Bengtsson - E. Lundgreen ( Ford Zephyr )
Best Regards
Dario
Matthewrally87
15th February 2009, 10:46
Hi, i'm a new entry...
Have you got the calendar of the European Rally Championship 1954?
Thank you so much...
RobertS
15th February 2009, 13:51
Has anybody results, entry-lists of - late 70s and early 80s - Rallye Halkidikis ?
Especially 6th Rallye Halkidikis ?
2 - George Moschous - Alexis Constantakatos
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2042/56resizeld7.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4076/561ng9.jpg
Giorgio
15th February 2009, 18:31
Someone knows.....
26 aprile - 2 maggio 1953 - 5° Tulpen Rally
Start: Spa
Finish: Noordwijk
Best Regards
Dario
Mille grazie, Dario!
Giorgio
Giorgio
15th February 2009, 18:36
The List is correct ? Some rallyes are missing ?
1954
round 1 -- 18 gennaio 1954 - 24° Rally Monte Carlo
round 2 -- 21-25 febbraio 1954 - 5° Rally del Sestriere
round 3 -- 9 marzo 1954 - 12° Rally of Great Britain - RAC Rally
round 4 -- 26 aprile - 2 maggio 1954 - 6° Tulpen Rally
round 5 -- 16 giugno 1954 - 5° Svenska Rallyt till Midnattssolen - Rally of the Midnight Sun
round 6 -- 23 giugno 1954 - 16° Wiesbaden Rally
round 7 -- 8-16 luglio 1954 - 17° Coupe des Alpes
round 8 -- 18-23 agosto 1954 - 24° Marathon de la Route -- Liège - Rome - Liège
round 9 -- 10-13 settembre 1954 - 4° Viking Rally
round 10 -- 3 novembre 1954 - 24° Rally de Genève
round 11 -- 1 dicembre 1954 - Rally de Lisboa
Thanks in advance
Giorgio
Giorgio
15th February 2009, 18:50
Has anybody results, entry-lists of - late 70s and early 80s - Rallye Halkidikis ?
Especially 6th Rallye Halkidikis ?
I have the top 3/5 results for Halkidikis 1977 (3° Edition) / 2004. Are you intersted?
Giorgio
Matthewrally87
15th February 2009, 19:15
X Giorgio...
Ciao Giorgio... Anch'io sono di Torino... A quanto pare stiamo cercando le stesse cose... Campionato Europeo Rally...
Carles Bosch 02
15th February 2009, 21:12
The List is correct ? Some rallyes are missing ?
1954
round 1 -- 18 gennaio 1954 - 24° Rally Monte Carlo
round 2 -- 21-25 febbraio 1954 - 5° Rally del Sestriere
round 3 -- 9 marzo 1954 - 12° Rally of Great Britain - RAC Rally
round 4 -- 26 aprile - 2 maggio 1954 - 6° Tulpen Rally
round 5 -- 16 giugno 1954 - 5° Svenska Rallyt till Midnattssolen - Rally of the Midnight Sun
round 6 -- 23 giugno 1954 - 16° Wiesbaden Rally
round 7 -- 8-16 luglio 1954 - 17° Coupe des Alpes
round 8 -- 18-23 agosto 1954 - 24° Marathon de la Route -- Liège - Rome - Liège
round 9 -- 10-13 settembre 1954 - 4° Viking Rally
round 10 -- 3 novembre 1954 - 24° Rally de Genève
round 11 -- 1 dicembre 1954 - Rally de Lisboa
Thanks in advance
Giorgio
As far as I know, the Lisboa didn't count towards the '54 European Championship.
Carles.
Giorgio
15th February 2009, 21:22
Thank you, Carles!
Giorgio
Matthewrally87
15th February 2009, 21:53
Can anyone help me, please?
Thanks so much
Rally Monte Carlo 1954
1. Chiron-Basadonna (Lancia Aurelia B20)
2. David-Barbier (Peugeot 203)
3. Blanchard-Lecoq (Panhard 750)
4. Johansson-Jensen (Renault ?????)
5. Vial-Panuel (Renault ?????)
RAC Rally 1954
1. Wallwork-Brooks (Triumph TR2)
2. Cooper-Leighton (Triumph TR2)
3. Harrison-Harrison (Ford Zephyr)
4. ?????-????? (????? ?????)
5. ?????-????? (????? ?????)
Tulpen Rally 1954
1. Stasse-Gendebien (Alfa Romeo ?????)
2. ?????-????? (????? ?????)
3. ?????-????? (????? ?????)
4. Boardman-Duckworth (Jaguar ?????)
5. Martens-Eerligh (Fiat ?????)
Rally of Midnight Sun
1. Hammarlund-Pettersson (Porsche 356 1300)
2. Kjellstrom-Hook (Porsche 356 1300)
3. Andersson-Hansson (Alfa Romeo ?????)
4. Bonnier-Boeson (Alfa Romeo ?????)
5. Borgefors-Gustavsson (Porsche 356 1300)
Wiesbaden Rally 1954
1. Menz-Schluter (DKW ?????)
2. Kraus-Schwind (BMW ?????)
3. Wencher-Behringer (BMW ?????)
4. Meier-Schellhaas (DKW ?????)
5. Brand-Luba (DKW ?????)
Liegi-Roma-Liegi 1954
1. Polensky-Linge (Porsche 356)
2. ?????-????? (????? ?????)
3. ?????-????? (????? ?????)
4. Houel-Blaise (Alfa Romeo ?????)
5. ?????-????? (????? ?????)
Geneve Rally 1954
1. Galtier-Condrillier (Renault ?????)
2. Schluter-Eikelmann (DKW ?????)
3. Guiraud-Beau (Peugeot 203)
4. Deroux-Gouteyron (????? ?????)
5. Martin-Quinlin (????? ?????)
Final standing of European Rally Championship 1954
RobertS
16th February 2009, 22:38
Costa Brava
'77 2nd-10th
1. B. Fernandez / N. Dural Ford Escort RS1.8 12685
2. J.de Bagration / M. Barbeito Lancia Stratos HF 12894
3. F.Lezama / J.Arnaix P Ford Escort RS 1.8 13033
4. F.Roothaert / „Vaillant Opel Kadett GT/E 13034
5. J.M.Fernandez / Cortel Porsche Carrera 13100
6. H.W.Schewe / G.Dederisch Porsche Carrera 13146
7. Caba / Armani Porsche Carrera 13212
8. JS. Coulomieres / Bondet Opel Kadett GT/E 13303
9. Bonnet / Arnella Ford Escort RS 13309
10. A. Ferjancz / Iriczalvi Remault R8 G 13900
Regards
10. Attila Ferjáncz - Ferenc Iriczfalvy, H, Renault-17 Gordini, 13900
They had start-No.19.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1226/1977costabravarallyeiu5.jpg
RobertS
16th February 2009, 22:42
I have the top 3/5 results for Halkidikis 1977 (3° Edition) / 2004. Are you intersted?
Giorgio
Yes, please....
RobertS
16th February 2009, 23:04
I found results 1981 Halkidiki:
1. Adartico Vudafieri - Arnaldo Bernacchini I Fiat-131 Abarth 3h 31m 04s
2. George Moschous - Alexis Konstantakatos GR Datsun Violet GT 3h 37m 39s
3. Blazej Krupa - Piotr Mystkowski PL Renault-5 Alpine 3h 55m 22s
4. Andreas Papatriantafillou - ... Hasapis GR Toyota Corolla 4h 04m 03s
5. Manolis Halivelakis - Athanos Papageorgiu GR Ford Escort RS 4h 05m 28s
911carreraRSR
17th February 2009, 12:22
Dear (http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=587166#post587166) Friends,
If anybody have got the result from 1972 Semperit Rally? Is Zasada finished 4-th or not?
Giorgio
17th February 2009, 15:26
Yes, please....
9 settembre 1978 - 3° Halkidikis Rally
1. Tony Carello (I) - Maurizio Perissinot (I) (Lancia Stratos)
2. "Siroco" (Tasos Livieratos) - Manolis Makrinos (Lancia Stratos)
3. Franz Wittmann (A) - Kurt Nestinger (A) (Opel Kadett GTE)
5-6 settembre 1979 - 4° Halkidikis Rally
1. Jochi Kleint - Gunther Wanger (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 2)
2. Mauro Pregliasco - Vittorio Reisoli (Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV 2000)
3. "Iaveris" (Anastasios Markouizos) - Kostas Stefanis (Ford Escort RS)
4. Iorgos Moschous - Simetra (Datsun 160 J)
5. Vangelis Gallo - Andreas Arkentis (Datsun 160 J)
2-4 settembre 1980 - 5° Halkidikis Rally
1. Antonio Zanini - Jorge Sabater (Porsche 911 SC gr 4)
2. Iorgos Moschous - Alexis Constantakatos (Datsun 160 J gr 2)
3. Bernard Béguin - Jean-Jacques Lenne (Porsche 911 SC gr 4)
4. "Iaveris" (Anastasios Markouizos) - Kostas Fertakis (Ford Escort RS)
5. Torres - Morais (Ford Escort RS)
24-26 agosto 1982 - 7° Halkidikis Rally
1. Jimmy McRae - Ian Grindrod (Opel Ascona 400)
2. "Tony" (Antonio Fassina) - "Rudy" (Roberto Dal Pozzo) (Opel Ascona 400)
3. Iorgos Moschous - Kostas Fertakis (Datsun Violet)
4. "Leonidas" (Alexandros Maniatopoulos) - Tonia Pavli-Kokkini (Renault R5 Turbo)
5. Guy Colsoul - Alain Lopes (Opel Ascona 400)
23-25 agosto 1983 - 8° Halkidikis Rally
1. Antonio Tognana - Massimo De Antoni (Lancia 037 Rally)
2. Shekhar Mehta - Yvonne Mehta (Nissan 240 RS)
3. Andrea Zanussi - Sergio Cresto (Lancia 037 Rally)
4. "Leonidas" (Alexandros Maniatopoulos) - Tonia Pavli-Kokkini (Renault 5 Turbo)
5. Defour - Pasquier (Talbot Samba)
20-22 agosto 1984 - 9° Halkidikis Rally
1. Carlo Capone - Sergio Cresto (Lancia 037 Rally)
2. Shekhar Mehta - Yvonne Mehta (Nissan 240 RS)
3. Iorgos Moschous - Manolis Makrinos (Nissan 240 RS)
4. "Stratissino" (Stratis Hatzipanayiotou) - Kostas Fertakis (Nissan 240 RS)
5. Mike Kirkland - Anton Levitan (Nissan 240 RS)
26-28 agosto 1985 - 10° Halkidikis Rally
1. Massimo Biasion - Tiziano Siviero (Lancia 037 Rally gr B)
2. Andrea Zanussi - Sergio Cresto (Lancia 037 Rally gr B)
3. Mauro Pregliasco - Daniele Cianci (Lancia 037 Rally gr B)
4. Iorgos Moschous - Kostas Fertakis (Nissan 240 RS)
5. Jean Ragnotti - Pierre Thimonier (Renault 5 Maxi Turbo)
26-28 agosto 1986 - 11° Halkidikis Rally
1. Fabrizio Tabaton (I) - Luciano Tedeschini (I) (Lancia Delta S4 gr B)
2. Attila Ferjancz (H) - Janos Tandari (H) (Audi Quattro gr B)
3. Iorgos Moschous - Dimitri Vazakas (Nissan 240 RS gr B)
4. "Beny" (Benigno) Fernández (E) - José Luis López Orozco (E) (Opel Manta 400 gr B)
5. "Stratissino" (Stratis Hatzipanayiotou) - Tonia Pavli-Kokkini (Nissan 240 RS gr B)
25-26 agosto 1987 - 12° Halkidikis Rally
1. Dario Cerrato - Giuseppe Cerri (Lancia Delta HF 4WD gr A)
2. Yves Loubet - Jean-Bernard Vieu (Lancia Delta HF 4WD gr A)
3. "Jigger" (Ioannis Vardinoyiannis) - Kostas Stefanis (Lancia Delta HF 4WD gr A)
4. Salvador Servià - Jorge Sabater (Volkswagen Golf GTI 16v gr A)
5. "Stratissino" (Stratis Hatzipanayiotou) - Tonia Pavli (Nissan 200 SX gr A)
29 agosto - 1 settembre 1988 - 13° Halkidikis Rally
1. Fabrizio Tabaton - Luciano Tedeschini (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
2. "Jigger" (Ioannis Vardinoyiannis) - Kostas Stefanis (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
3. "Stratissino" (Stratis Hatzipanayiotou) - Kostas Fertakis (Nissan 200 SX gr A)
4. Fabio Arletti - Leonardo Julli (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
5. Kostas Apostolou - Mihalis Kriadis (Volkswagen Golf GTI 16v gr A)
29-30 agosto 1989 - 14° ELPA Halkidikis Rally
1. Yves Loubet - Jean-Marc Andrié (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
2. "Jigger" (Ioannis Vardinoyiannis) - Kostas Stefanis (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
3. Piero Liatti - Maurizio Imerito (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
4. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford Sierra Cosworth gr A)
5. Fabio Arletti - Leonardo Julli (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
28-29 agosto 1990 - 15° ELPA Halkidikis Rally
1. Michele Rayneri - Loris Roggia (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
2. Kostas Apostolou - Dionissis Bellos (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
3. Gakis Kalemtzakis - Akilis Mavridis (Ford Sierra RS Cosworth gr A)
4. Iskender Atakan - Yusuf Avimelek (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
5. Emre Yerlici - Can Okan (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
27-29 agosto 1991 - 16° ELPA Halkidikis Rally
1. Piero Liatti - Luciano Tedeschini (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
2. Fabrizio Tabaton - Maurizio Imerito (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
3. Piero Longhi - Pietro Carraro (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
4. Gilberto Pianezzola - Lucio Baggio (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
5. Enrico Bertone - Gianfranco Imerito (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
23-24 agosto 1992 - 17° ELPA Halkidikis Rally
1. Erwin Weber - Manfred Hiemer (Mitsubishi Galant VR4 gr A)
2. Enrico Bertone - Flavio Zanella (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
3. Marian Bublewicz - Grzegorz Gac (Ford Sierra Cosworth 4x4 gr A)
4. Mamdouh Khayat - Dave Nicholson (Lancia Delta Integrale gr A)
5. Serdar Bostanci - Cihat Gurkan (Ford Sierra Cosworth 4x4 gr A)
28-30 agosto 1993 - 18° ELPA Halkidikis Rally
1. Vanio Pasquali - Luciano Tedeschini (Ford Escort RS Cosworth)
2. Kostas Apostolou - Mihalis Kriadis (Lancia Delta Integrale 16v)
3. "Stratissino" (Stratis Hatzipanayiotou) - Tonia Pavli (Nissan Sunny GTI)
4. Gianni Fiora - Massimo Sghedoni (Renault Clio Williams)
5. Minas Klimatsakis - Vassilis Tzouvaltzis (Lancia Delta Integrale)
27-28 agosto 1994 - 19° ELPA Halkidikis Rally
1. Sergio Pianezzola (I) - Lucio Baggio (I) (Lancia Delta HF Integrale)
2. Leonidas Kyrkos - Ioannis Stavropoulos (Ford Escort RS Cosworth)
3. "Miriam" - Ioannis Saliaris (Ford Escort RS Cosworth)
4. Emmanuel Panayiotopoulos - Nikos Panou (Nissan Sunny GTR)
5. Vassilis Tsobanopoulos - Dimitris Manolopoulos (Ford Sierra RS Cosworth 4x4)
26-27 agosto 1995 - 20° ELPA Halkidikis Rally
1. Leonidas Kyrkos - Ioannis Stavropoulos (Ford Escort RS Cosworth)
2. Aris Vovos - Kostas Stefanis (Lancia Delta HF Integrale)
3. Marc Timmers - Alain Robert (Lancia Delta HF Integrale)
4. "Stratissino" (Stratis Hatzipanayiotou) - Tonia Pavli (Nissan Sunny GTI)
5. Pier Giorgio Bedini - Luca Bonvicini (Ford Escort RS Cosworth)
31 agosto - 1 settembre 1996 - 21° ELPA Halkidikis Rally
1. Leonidas Kyrkos - Ioannis Stavropoulos (Ford Escort RS Cosworth)
2. Aris Vovos - Ioannis Alvanos (Lancia Delta HF Integrale)
3. Kurt Gottlicher - Josef Pointinger (Ford Escort RS Cosworth)
4. Jean-Pierre Richelmi - Thierry Barjou (Ford Escort RS Cosworth)
5. Titi Aur - Dumitru Boboescu (Toyota Celica Turbo 4WD)
30-31 agosto 1997 - 22° ELPA Halkidikis Rally
1. Krzystof Holowczyc - Maciej Wislawski (Subaru Impreza 555)
2. Sergey Baldikov - Anton Zinoviev (Ford Escort RS Cosworth)
3. Sergey Uspenski - Aleksey Shchukin (Subaru Impreza 555)
4. Gianmarino Zenere (I) - Sauro Farnocchia (I) (Subaru Impreza 555)
5. Vanio Pasquali (I) - Lucio Baggio (I) (Ford Escort RS Cosworth)
29-30 agosto 1998 - 23° ELPA Halkidikis Rally
1. Aris Vovos - Ioannis Alvanos (Subaru Impreza WRC)
2. Joannis Papadimitriou - Nikos Petropoulos (Ford Escort WRC)
3. Leonidas Kyrkos - Ioannis Stavropoulos (Ford Escort WRC)
4. Ercan Kazaz - Cengiz Yildiz (Nissan Almera kit)
5. Sotiris Hatzitsopanis - Christos Nanos (Ford Escort RS Cosworth)
28-29 agosto 1999 - 24° ELPA Halkidikis Rally
1. Joannis Papadimitriou - Kostas Stefanis (Subaru Impreza WRC)
2. Leonidas Kyrkos - Ioannis Stavropoulos (Ford Escort WRC)
3. Pavel Sibera - Petr Gross (Skoda Oktavia kit)
4. Leszek Kuzaj - Andrzej Gorski (Subaru Impreza 555)
5. Enrico Bertone (I) - Massimo Chiapponi (I) (Renault Mégane Maxi)
2-3 settembre 2000 - 25° ELPA Halkidikis Rally
1. Henrik Lundgaard - Jens-Christian Anker (Toyota Corolla WRC)
2. Aris Vovos - "El-Em" (Loris Meletopoulos) (Toyota Corolla WRC)
3. Ercan Kazaz - Cem Bakancocuklari (Subaru Impreza WRC)
4. Isolde Holderied - Heike Feichtinger (Toyota Corolla WRC)
5. Marco Tempestini - Lucio Baggio (Toyota Corolla WRC)
8-9 settembre 2001 - 26° ELPA Halkidikis Rally
1. Aris Vovos - "El-Em" (Loris Meletopoulos) (Subaru Impreza WRC)
2. Roger Feghali - Bruno Brissart (Mitsubishi Lancer evo 6)
3. Antony Warmbold - Gemma Price (Toyota Corolla WRC)
4. Dimitris Drivakos - Elias Kordas (Mitsubishi Lancer evo 5)
5. Sotiris Hatzitsopanis - Christos Nanos (Ford Escort RS Cosworth)
30 agosto - 1 settembre 2002 - 27° ELPA Rally
1. Renato Travaglia (I) - Flavio Zanella (I) (Peugeot 206 WRC)
2. Leonidas Kyrkos - George Polyzois (Ford Escort WRC)
3. Janusz Kulig - Jaroslaw Baran (Ford Focus WRC)
4. Alexandr Lesnikov - Andrey Rusov (Subaru Impreza WRC)
5. Thomas Thergiakis - Andreas Vlahogenis (Mitsubishi Lancer evo 6)
26-28 settembre 2003 - 28° ELPA Rally
1. Bruno Thiry - Jean-Marc Fortin (Peugeot 206 WRC)
2. Miguel Campos - Carlos Magalhaes (Peugeot 206 WRC)
3. Yevgeni Vasin - Aleksey Shchukin (Peugeot 206 WRC)
4. Athanasios Efstathiou - Efstratios Orfanos (Renault Clio kit)
5. Socratis Tsolakidis - Socratis Pavlidis (Peugeot 306 Maxi)
24-26 settembre 2004 - 29° ELPA Rally
1. Simon Jean-Joseph - Jack Boyère (Renault Clio S1600)
2. Bruno Thiry - Nicolas Gilsoul (Citroen C2 S1600)
3. Panayiotis Hatzitsopanis - Nikos Petropoulos (Mitsubishi Lancer evo 7)
4. "Iaveris Jr." (Aris Markouizos) - Kostas Stefanis (Fiat Punto S1600)
5. Miroslav Jandik - Radim Chrastecky (Mitsubishi Lancer evo 7)
If you have the 1976 - 1977........
Regards
Giorgio
911carreraRSR
17th February 2009, 23:56
Chers amis,
Je suis intéressé par le résultat de la 1972 SEMPERIT Rally (8-11 Juin 1972)
Je trouve les résultats, mais il ya deux version:
1. version - 4ème est S.Zasada / E.Zasada - Porsche
2. Version - 4ème est K.Russling / Weiss - Alpine A110 1.6
Qu'est-ce correct?
Merci d'avance!
Dear Friends,
I'm interested from the result from the 1972 SEMPERIT Rally (8-11 June 1972)
I find out the results, but there are two version:
1. version - 4th is S.Zasada/E.Zasada - Porsche
2. Version - 4th is K.Russling/Weiss - Alpine A110 1.6
What is correct?
Thanks in advance!
Liebe Freunde,
Ich interessiere mich aus dem Ergebnis von 1972 SEMPERIT Rally (8-11 Juni 1972)
Ich finde die Ergebnisse, aber es gibt zwei Versionen:
1. Version - 4. ist S.Zasada / E.Zasada - Porsche
2. Version - 4. ist K.Russling / Weiss - Alpine A110 1/6
Was ist richtig?
Vielen Dank im Voraus!
dario
18th February 2009, 09:28
[quote="Giorgio"]
9 - 11 settembre 1978 - 3° Halkidikis Rally
1. Tony Carello (I) - Maurizio Perissinot (I) (Lancia Stratos)
2. "Siroco" (Tasos Livieratos) - Manolis Makrinos (Lancia Stratos)
3. Franz Wittmann (A) - Kurt Nestinger (A) (Opel Kadett GTE)
4. Hambis - Mavrivis (Gr) (Ford Escort RS)
5. Kolev (Bl) - Mitkov (Bl) ( Porsche Carrera )
Ho solo questo , in più.
Saluti Dario
januszsz
18th February 2009, 14:36
Does anybody have top 10 of Halkidikis 1977?
Regards
Janusz
RobertS
18th February 2009, 19:30
Giorgo,
Thank you very much!
Carles Bosch 02
19th February 2009, 07:40
Does anybody have top 10 of Halkidikis 1977?
Regards
Janusz
As published in 'velocità & rally 77' yearbook:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9189/sinttuloescaneado01rh1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7859/sinttuloescaneado02sp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Carles.
Giorgio
19th February 2009, 09:39
9 - 11 settembre 1978 - 3° Halkidikis Rally
1. Tony Carello (I) - Maurizio Perissinot (I) (Lancia Stratos)
2. "Siroco" (Tasos Livieratos) - Manolis Makrinos (Lancia Stratos)
3. Franz Wittmann (A) - Kurt Nestinger (A) (Opel Kadett GTE)
4. Hambis - Mavrivis (Gr) (Ford Escort RS)
5. Kolev (Bl) - Mitkov (Bl) ( Porsche Carrera )
Ho solo questo , in più.
Saluti Dario
Grazie, Dario!
Giorgio
Giorgio
19th February 2009, 09:44
As published in 'velocità & rally 77' yearbook:
Carles.
Carles, you have the first edition 1976 ?
Thank you
Giorgio
jirka rk
19th February 2009, 10:08
Hi,
this is my results of Rallye Semperit 1972
1 L. Pinto / G. Macaluso Fiat 124 Spider
2 A. Warmbold / Linzen BMW 2002 Ti
3 A. Ballestrieri / A. Bernacchini Lancia Fulvia HF
4 K. Russling / Weiss Alpine Renault A110
5 S. Barbasio / Sodano Lancia HF
6 M. Verini / B. Scabini Fiat 124 Spider
7 Pelganta / Maiga Lancia Fulvia HF
8 G. Fischer / Siebert Vw 1302 S
9 Dr. Fischer / Tazl Vw 1302 S
10 Koltay / Boehs BMW 2002 Ti
januszsz
19th February 2009, 15:39
Thank you Carles for Halkidiki. If you are so kind to full my "blanks" (1977 is not the best of mine) I'll be very thankful.
Regards
Janusz
Other missing result of 1977 are:
Boucles de Spa 7-10
Galway 7-10
Hankiralli 2-10
Circuit of Ireland 7-10
Golden Tulpen 7-10
Criterium Alpin 9-10
YU 10th
Criterium Lucien Bianchi 2-10
Hessen 4-10
Quattro Reggioni 4-10
Alpi Orientali 7-10
Danube (Donnau, Moldau) 2-10
Taurus 2-10
San Martino di Castrozza 2-10
Tour de France 2-10
OASC 2-10
Algarve 6-10
Bosphorus 2-10
Matthewrally87
19th February 2009, 20:01
Can someone help me with these results, please?
RAC Rally 1954
1. Wallwork-Brooks (Triumph TR2)
2. Cooper-Leighton (Triumph TR2)
3. Harrison-Harrison (Ford Zephyr)
4. ?????-????? (????? ?????)
5. ?????-????? (????? ?????)
Tulpen Rally 1954
1. Stasse-Gendebien (Alfa Romeo ?????)
2. ?????-????? (????? ?????)
3. ?????-????? (????? ?????)
4. Boardman-Duckworth (Jaguar ?????)
5. Martens-Eerligh (Fiat ?????)
Rally of Midnight Sun
1. Hammarlund-Pettersson (Porsche 356 1300)
2. Kjellstrom-Hook (Porsche 356 1300)
3. Andersson-Hansson (Alfa Romeo ?????)
4. Bonnier-Boeson (Alfa Romeo ?????)
5. Borgefors-Gustavsson (Porsche 356 1300)
Wiesbaden Rally 1954
1. Menz-Schluter (DKW ?????)
2. Kraus-Schwind (BMW ?????)
3. Wencher-Behringer (BMW ?????)
4. Meier-Schellhaas (DKW ?????)
5. Brand-Luba (DKW ?????)
Liegi-Roma-Liegi 1954
1. Polensky-Linge (Porsche 356)
2. ?????-????? (????? ?????)
3. ?????-????? (????? ?????)
4. Houel-Blaise (Alfa Romeo ?????)
5. ?????-????? (????? ?????)
Geneve Rally 1954
1. Galtier-Condrillier (Renault ?????)
2. Schluter-Eikelmann (DKW ?????)
3. Guiraud-Beau (Peugeot 203)
4. Deroux-Gouteyron (????? ?????)
5. Martin-Quinlin (????? ?????)
Final standing of European Rally Championship 1954
Giorgio
19th February 2009, 20:22
Ciao Janusz, i have:
18 febbraio 1977 - 22° Hankiralli
1. Stig Blomqvist (S) - Hans Sylvan (Saab 99 EMS)
2. Timo Salonen - Jaakko Markkula (Fiat 131 Abarth)
3. Ulf Gronholm - Raimo Anttonen (Opel Kadett GT/E)
4. Kyosti Hamalainen - Martin Holmes (Saab 96 V4)
5. Jari Vilkas - Juhani Soini (Saab 96 V4)
--------------------------------
13 maggio 1977 - 8° Criterium Lucien Bianchi
1. Bernard Darniche - Alain Mahe (Lancia Stratos gr 4)
2. Gilbert Staepelaere - Fred Franssen (Ford Escort RS 1800 gr 4)
3. Christian Coeuille - Yvan Berthon (Renault Alpine A110 gr 4)
4. Harald Demuth - ?????? Muller (Porsche 911 Carrera gr 4)
5. Jean-Louis Dumont - Joseph Materne (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
--------------------------
29 luglio 1977 - 12° Donau Rally
1. Ilia Tchoubrikov - Pencho Turovski (Renault 5 Alpine)
2. Vaclav Blahna - Lubislav Hlavka (Skoda 130 RS)
3. Ilie Olteanu - O. Skobai (Dacia 1300)
---------------------------
26 agosto 1977 - Taurus Rally
1. Attila Ferjancz - Janos Tandari (Renault R17 Gordini)
2. Klaus Fritzinger - Arwed Fischer (Toyota Celica)
3. Guy Colsoul - Alain Lopes (Opel Kadett GTE)
4. Jean-Charles Sévelinge - Joseph Sévelinge (Opel Kadett GT/E)
5. ????? Wolff - ????? Meurer (Ford Escort RS 2000)
----------------------
2 settembre 1977 - 14° Rally San Martino di Castrozza
Start: San Martino di Castrozza (Trento)
Finish: San Martino di Castrozza
groups 1-2-3-4
fia european rally championship - coeff. 4
round 13 - fia cup for rally drivers
round 11 - cir - campionato italiano rallies - coeff. 4
mitropa cup
international rally
Results:
1. Sandro Munari - Piero Sodano (Lancia Stratos gr 4)
2. Mauro Pregliasco - Vittorio Reisoli (Lancia Stratos gr 4)
3. Maurizio Verini - Bruno Scabini (Fiat 131 Abarth gr 4)
4. Walter Rohrl (D) - Christian Geistdorfer (D) (Fiat 131 Abarth gr 4)
5. Tony Fassina - Mauro Mannini (Fiat 131 Abarth gr 4)
--------------------------------
Regards
Giorgio
januszsz
19th February 2009, 22:25
Molto grazie Giorgio.
Janusz
kabouter
19th February 2009, 22:32
Thank you Carles for Halkidiki. If you are so kind to full my "blanks" (1977 is not the best of mine) I'll be very thankful.
Regards
Janusz
Other missing result of 1977 are:
Boucles de Spa 7-10
Golden Tulpen 7-10
Hessen 4-10
San Martino di Castrozza 2-10
Boucles de Spa
7 Chavan - Plas, BEL (Mitsubishi Lancer) 15176 points
8 Delettre - Schadeck, BEL (Opel Kadett GT/E) 15509
9 Dumont - Materne, BEL (Opel Kadett GT/E) 15515
10 Kohl - Kehl, FRG (Opel Kadett GT/E) 15884
Tulpenrallye (please note, this one has nothing to do with the later Golden Tulip Rally which was a continuation of the Hellendoorn Rally)
7 Van der Marel - Berkho, NED (Opel Kadett GT/E) 7514 points
8 Maslen - Booth, GBR (Ford Escort RS 1800) 7551
9 Luijbregts - Eine, NED (Volvo 142) 7586
10 Richard - Dickhout, NED (Opel Ascona 19 SR) 7595
Hessen Rallye
4 Rack - Köhler, FRG (Porsche Carrera) 16272
5 Altenheimer - Fabisch, FRG (Porsche Carrera) 16359
6 Hainback - Bartels, FRG (Opel Kadett GT/E) 16409
7 Messmann - Gruber, FRG (Opel Kadett GT/E) 16555
8 Hermann - Hess, FRG (Opel Kadett GT/E) 16769
9 Kern - Gründer, FRG (BMW 2002 TII) 17169
10 Thiry - Hohenadel, FRG (Ford Escort RS2000) 17203
All the above results are from Dutch annual Autosport 77 by Ron Tuyl. Spelling of some names may be inaccurate.
San Martino di Castrozza: http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=639
RobertS
20th February 2009, 01:37
If you are so kind to full my "blanks" (1977 is not the best of mine) I'll be very thankful.
Taurus 2-10
XVI. International Rallye Taurus, Hungary 26th August 1977
1. Attila Ferjáncz - János Tandari Dr. H Renault-17Gordini 5716p.
2. Klaus Fritzinger - Arwed Fischer D Toyota Celica 5747p.
3. Guy Colsoul - Alain Lopes B Opel Kadett 5750p.
4. Jean-Charles Sévelinge - Joseph Sévelinge F Opel Kadett GTE 5987p.
5. ... Wolff - ... Meurer D Ford RS2000 6143p.
6. Ilia Chubrikov - ... Tzerovszky BG Renault-5Alpine 6250p.
7. ... Welst - ... Gottlieb D Opel Kadett GTE 6413p.
8. Petr Cernohorsky - ... Marsowsky CZ Vaz1600MTX 6430p.
9. ... Dartsch - ... Gordziel D BMW2002 6450p.
10. József Földes - ... Keresztes H Lada21011 6493p.
90 starters, 50 finished
2 - Attila Ferjáncz - János Tandari Dr.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3003/2483248329_09900e463f_o.jpg
7 - Klaus Fritzinger - Arwed Fischer
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3201/2484063240_5ca0a0c695_o.jpg
3 - Guy Colsoul - Alain Lopes
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2206/2484063316_effcc6deac_o.jpg
Start No.1. was Guy Frequelin - ... Delaval Alpine310
They retired from 4th position with electrical problems on ss.16.
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8231/10055809ds5.jpg
You can find more infos, old phots in my album:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26486522@N06/sets/72157604999560113/
januszsz
20th February 2009, 09:58
Thank you Kabouter and Robert S.
Tjeerd are you able to let me know final points of drivers classified highier than those I asked for?
Robert S are you from Hungary? If yes, I would like to ask you few more questions.
Regards
Janusz
januszsz
20th February 2009, 10:04
...one more Tjeerd. "Golden Tulpen" was my mistake it was "Gulf Tulpen Rally". Is it possible that 6th in Hessen was Reihanr Heinbach? He was driving mainly or maybe even exclusively Escorts (in 1977, too) and that block in 6th drove a Kadett. And one more question on certain Delettre. Was he the Alphonse Delettre whos name is attached to the name of known rally in Belgium?
Regards
Janusz
RobertS
20th February 2009, 10:30
Robert S are you from Hungary?
Yes, I am Hungarian.
jirka rk
20th February 2009, 12:04
Hi Janusz
this is what I have ......
Other missing result of 1977 are:
Galway 7-10
7. R.Eyre-Maunsell / N.Wilson Chrysler Avenger
8. D.Boyd / R.Cole Porsche Carrera
9. D.Agnew / R.Harkness BMW 2002 Tii
10. D.Nutt / J.White Vauxhall Magnum Coupe
Hankiralli 2-10
2. T.Salonen / J.Markkula SF Fiat 131 Abarth
3. U.Grönholm / Anttonen SF Opel Kadett GT/E
4. K.Hämäläinen / M.Holmes SF/GB Ford Escort RS 2000
5. J.Vilkas / J.Soini SF Saab 96 V4
6. H.Väänänen / T.Tuominen SF Sunbeam Avenger
7. T.Rainio / E.Nyman SF Saab 96 V4
8. Erkki Pitkänen Chrysler Avenger
Circuit of Ireland 7-10
7. J.McRae/D.Brown GB Vauxhall Magnum Coupe
8. D.Agnew/R.Harkness BMW 2002 Tii
9. K.Shields/P.Lyster Porsche Carrera
10. M.Wilson/J.Davies GB Ford Escort RS 2000
Criterium Alpin 9-10
10. Martine Cordesse Alpine Renault A110
YU 10th
10. Vicentije Savic/Miroljub Kujbus YU Zastava 101
Criterium Lucien Bianchi 2-10
2. Gilbert Staepelaere / Fred Franssen B Ford Escort RS 1800
3. Christian Coeuille / Berthon F Renault Alpine A110
4. Demuth / Muller L Porsche Carrera
5. Jean-Louis Dumont / Materne B Opel kadett GT/E
6. ‘Chavan’ / Willy Plas B Mitsubishi Lancer
7. Engels / Kokife B Porsche Carrera
8. Barbin / Lacquemanne F Opel Kadett GT/E
9. Leclerq / Vignon F Opel Kadett GT/E
10. Windsor / Goff GB Ford Escort RS
Quattro Reggioni 4-10
4. Leo Pittoni / Zappia D Alfa Alfeta GTV
5. Dario Cerrato / Giuseppe Cerri I Opel Kadett GT/E
6. Quatari / Lavazzo E Opel Kadett GT/E
7. Ferrari / Cuniolo Fiat 124 Abarth
8. Tadditi / Rossi I Opel Kadett GT/E
9. Noberasco / Peirano I Opel Kadett GT/E
10. Bulfoni / Cardella I Opel Kadett GT/E
Alpi Orientali 7-10
7. L.Pittoni / Borgnini I Alfa Alfeta GTV
8. ???????
9. darrio Cerrato Opel
10. Angelo Pressoto Opel
Danube (Donnau, Moldau) 2-10
2. V.Blahna / L.Hlavka CZ Škoda 130 RS
3. I.Olteanu / O.Scobai R Dacia 1300
4. Urdeau / Stingaciu R Dacia 1300
5. Bercea / Tit R Dacia 1300
6. Szalai / Vinta R Dacia 1300
San Martino di Castrozza 2-10
2. M.Pregliasco / V.Reisoli I Lancia Stratos HF
3. M.Verini / B.Scabini I Fiat 131 Abarth
4. W.Röhrl / C.Geistdörfer D Fiat 131 Abarth
5. „Tony” / M.Mannini I Fiat 131 Abarth
6. B.Fernandez / Formoso E Ford Escort RS 1800
7. G.Taufer / Sartoretto I Porsche Carrera
8. L.Pittoni / Borghini I Alfa Alfeta GTV
9. „Lucky” / G.Braito I Opel Kadett GT/E
10. A.Presotto / M.Perisutti I Opel Kadett GT/E
Tour de France 2-10
2. Mouton / Conconi F Porsche Carrera
3. Strierio / Roussel Porsche Carrera RSR
4. Verney / Emmanuelli Porsche Carrera
5. Hazard / Manoel F BMW 3.0 CSL
6. Meny / Rerger Renault Alpine A 110
7. Clarr / La Verne F Opel Kadett GT/E
8. Daument / "Zaf" Opel Kadett GT/E
9. Eos / Fallot Porsche Carrera
10. Rey / Strotz Porsche Carrera
OASC 2-10
Algarve 6-10
6. Americo Nunes Porsche
Bosphorus 2-10
2. Sevelinge Opel Kadett GT/E
3. Azmi Murat 131
4. Ionescu Renault 12 Gordini
5. Ali Sipahi Murat 131
urabus-denoS2000
20th February 2009, 12:12
Can anyone post some pics of works Trabants?
I'm interested in their livery,possibly for a model...
Matthewrally87
20th February 2009, 12:25
Hi, can someone help me with these results?
Polish Rally 1969 4th and 5h
Monaco-Vienna-Budapest (3Stadte Rally) 4th and 5th
1969 European Rally Championship for Drivers's classification
1969 European Rally Championship for Manufactures's classification
Thanks
RobertS
20th February 2009, 13:46
Hi, can someone help me with these results?
Polish Rally 1969 4th and 5h
http://czajla.republika.pl/polski/1969/index.htm
RobertS
20th February 2009, 14:08
Danube (Donnau, Moldau) 2-10
2. V.Blahna / L.Hlavka CZ Škoda 130 RS
3. I.Olteanu / O.Scobai R Dacia 1300
4. Urdeau / Stingaciu R Dacia 1300
5. Bercea / Tit R Dacia 1300
6. Szalai / Vinta R Dacia 1300
2. Vaclav Blahna - Lubislav Hlavka
3. Ilie Olteanu - Ovidiu Scobai
4. Gheorge Urdea - Mircea Stingaciu
5. Constantin Bercea - Corneliu Tit
6. Arpad Szalai - Andrej Vinta
Matthewrally87
20th February 2009, 14:32
http://czajla.republika.pl/polski/1969/index.htm
Thank you so much, RobertS!!!
Matthewrally87
20th February 2009, 15:38
Can someone help me, with these results, please?
Monaco-Vienna-Budapest (3Stadte Rally) 4th and 5th
1969 European Rally Championship for Drivers's classification
1969 European Rally Championship for Manufactures's classification
Thanks
Giorgio
20th February 2009, 16:13
2. Vaclav Blahna - Lubislav Hlavka
3. Ilie Olteanu - Ovidiu Scobai
4. Gheorge Urdea - Mircea Stingaciu
5. Constantin Bercea - Corneliu Tit
6. Arpad Szalai - Andrej Vinta
Robert, you have the results (top 5) for "Taurus Rally" 1° / 15° editions ?
Thanks in advance
Giorgio
januszsz
20th February 2009, 16:21
Jirka and RobertS - thank you very much. Anybody knows if a cetrain Windsor (10th overall in Criterium Lucien Bianchi'77) is a mamber of British Royal Family? I remeber that somebody of that family did RAC rallies... but I don't remember his name (it was Prince of something)
Regards
Janusz
Giorgio
20th February 2009, 16:56
Hi Janusz
this is what I have ......
Tour de France 2-10
3. Strierio / Roussel Porsche Carrera RSR
Is 3. Hubert Striebig - Francis Roussely (Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3000)
Regards
Giorgio
RobertS
20th February 2009, 17:26
Robert, you have the results (top 5) for "Taurus Rally" 1° / 15° editions ?
15th International Taurus Rallye
1 - Staepelaere-Vaillant, B, Ford Escort RS, 5759p.
2 - Ferjáncz-Iriczfalvi, H, Renault-17 Gordini, 5907p.
3 - Sulz-Weixelbraun, A, Porsche Carrera, 5953p.
4 - Russling-Heissenberger, A, Opel, 6011p.
5 - Haider-Patterman, A, Opel, 6047p.
6 - Günther-Wulf, D, Ford, 6319p.
7 - Fischer-Gottlieb, A, Opel, 633öp.
8 - Dr.Antalffy-Dr.Tandari, H, Renault-12 Gordini, 6386p.
9 - Stohl-Svanda, A, BMW, 6464p.
10-Földes-Dákai, H, Polski-Fiat, 6703p.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2134/2483264234_6acc5d2b7c_o.jpg
+ photos from my album:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26486522@N06/sets/72157604999560113/
historyfun = RobertS..... ;)
kabouter
20th February 2009, 21:07
Janusz (and others that are interested), here are the full top 10s from Autosport 77
Boucles de Spa
1 Pond - Gallagher, GBR (Triumph TR 7) 13732 points
2 Carlsson - De Jong, SWE-NED (Opel Kadett GT/E) 13865
3 'Didi' - Lux, BEL (Fiat 131 Abarth) 14088
4 Roothaert - 'Vaillant', BEL (Opel Kadett GT/E) 14093
5 Van der Marel - Berkhof, NED (Opel Kadett GT/E) 14913
6 Haugland - Lie, NOR (Škoda 130 RS) 15111
7 Chavan - Plas, BEL (Mitsubishi Lancer) 15176
8 Delettre - Schadeck, BEL (Opel Kadett GT/E) 15509
9 Dumont - Materne, BEL (Opel Kadett GT/E) 15515
10 Kohl - Kehl, FRG (Opel Kadett GT/E) 15884
Tulpenrallye
1 Staepelaere - Bessem, BEL (Ford Escort RS 1800) 6807 points
2 Carlsson - De Jong, SWE-NED (Opel Kadett GT/E) 6905
3 Brookes - Bryant, GBR (Ford Escort RS 1800) 6913
4 Drummond - Short, GBR (Ford Escort RS 1800) 6994
5 Eklund - Sylvan, SWE (Saab 99 EMS) 7156
6 Mehta - Pratt, KEN (Datsun Violet) 7184
7 Van der Marel - Berkhof, NED (Opel Kadett GT/E) 7514
8 Maslen - Booth, GBR (Ford Escort RS 1800) 7551
9 Luijbregts - Eine, NED (Volvo 142) 7586
10 Richard - Dickhout, NED (Opel Ascona 19 SR) 7595
Hessen Rallye
1 Warmbold - Geistdörfer, FRG (Toyota Corolla) 15614 points
2 Smolej - Menne, FRG (Opel Kadett GT/E) 15935
3 Kuhn - Hopfe, FRG (Porsche Carrera) 16242
4 Rack - Köhler, FRG (Porsche Carrera) 16272
5 Altenheimer - Fabisch, FRG (Porsche Carrera) 16359
6 Hainbach - Bartels, FRG (Opel Kadett GT/E) 16409
7 Messmann - Gruber, FRG (Opel Kadett GT/E) 16555
8 Hermann - Hess, FRG (Opel Kadett GT/E) 16769
9 Kern - Gründer, FRG (BMW 2002 TII) 17169
10 Thiry - Hohenadel, FRG (Ford Escort RS2000) 17203
I don't know if it's Reinhard Hainbach in 6th or if there's another Hainbach. He's not mentioned in the report in the book, but that's mostly focused on the Dutch participants anyway (Guliker - Van den Brink being the first Dutch finishers in 17th).
Alphonse Delettre was the organiser who turned the Routes Blanches into the well-known international event Boucles de Spa in the 1960s. I don't think it's him in this result.
januszsz
20th February 2009, 22:46
Thank you Tjeerd!
Regards
Janusz
911carreraRSR
21st February 2009, 06:06
Robert, do you have the results of 1972 year Munich-Vienna-Budapest Rally?
Thanks in advance
spartanvg
21st February 2009, 08:08
Not sure if this goes here on not... (Or if this is a really stupid question... :) )
Someone once said... "[???] is really good. But he is fat, and he smokes and drinks alot. If [???] actually got fit he'd be far better than any of us!" - or something along those lines... Any idea who said it about whom?
I think this is from Group B time.
Sorry if stupid question.
Thank you
Vickor
jirka rk
21st February 2009, 09:04
1° S. Zasada / Zyskowski Porsche 911
2° A. Ferjancz / Zsembery Renault 12 Gordini
3° Knorr / Schweizer Porsche 911
4° Koltay / Ogrisek BMW 2002 Ti
5° Muehleck / Zepfel Porsche 911
6° Rack / Kohler Porsche 911
7° Dietmayer / Schurek BMW 2002 Ti
8° Miersch / Frolich Opel Ascona 1.9
9° Husar / Boks Fiat 125 S
10° Fessl / Eggenberger Fiat 128 Rally
januszsz
21st February 2009, 09:05
Not sure if this goes here on not... (Or if this is a really stupid question... :) )
Someone once said... "[???] is really good. But he is fat, and he smokes and drinks alot. If [???] actually got fit he'd be far better than any of us!" - or something along those lines... Any idea who said it about whom?
I think this is from Group B time.
Sorry if stupid question.
Thank you
Vickor
I remember something alike:
"he not only smokes and drinks, he is fat and worn glasses and still he is one of the fastests".
For sure it was about Timo Salonen and I think it was opinion of Ari Vatanen.
Regards
Janusz
januszsz
21st February 2009, 09:14
1° S. Zasada / Zyskowski Porsche 911
2° A. Ferjancz / Zsembery Renault 12 Gordini
3° Knorr / Schweizer Porsche 911
4° Koltay / Ogrisek BMW 2002 Ti
5° Muehleck / Zepfel Porsche 911
6° Rack / Kohler Porsche 911
7° Dietmayer / Schurek BMW 2002 Ti
8° Miersch / Frolich Opel Ascona 1.9
9° Husar / Boks Fiat 125 S
10° Fessl / Eggenberger Fiat 128 Rally
I don't know is it right or not but I have
9th Robert Mucha/Tomasz Pulczynski -PL- Polski Fiat 125p
and Husar (do you know his first name?) was 10th.
Anybody can point the right version?
Regards
Janusz
spartanvg
21st February 2009, 10:09
I remember something alike:
"he not only smokes and drinks, he is fat and worn glasses and still he is one of the fastests".
For sure it was about Timo Salonen and I think it was opinion of Ari Vatanen.
Regards
Janusz
Thanks very much!
Fred Gallagher
21st February 2009, 10:29
Alphonse Delettre was the organiser who turned the Routes Blanches into the well-known international event Boucles de Spa in the 1960s. I don't think it's him in this result.
It's his son Danny. The other son Pierre became Clerk of the Course later.
Fred
januszsz
21st February 2009, 11:25
It's his son Danny. The other son Pierre became Clerk of the Course later.
Fred
Thank you Fred for precious explanation.
Are you able to clear up this: "if a cetrain Windsor (10th overall in Criterium Lucien Bianchi'77) is a member of British Royal Family? I remeber that somebody of that family did RAC rallies... but I don't remember his name (it was Prince of something)"
Now I now that "certain Windsor's name was Paul, but question is still alive.
Regards
Janusz
januszsz
21st February 2009, 11:32
Do you know Fred what was the number of Galway Rally 1977? I would also like to know first names of drivers and co-drivers classified in top 10 of Galway'77:
Billy Coleman/F... Donoghue
D... Lindsay/D.... Sandford
D.... Agnew/R..... Harkness
D... Nutt/J.... White
Regards
Janusz
Fred Gallagher
21st February 2009, 12:30
Thank you Fred for precious explanation.
Are you able to clear up this: "if a cetrain Windsor (10th overall in Criterium Lucien Bianchi'77) is a member of British Royal Family? I remeber that somebody of that family did RAC rallies... but I don't remember his name (it was Prince of something)"
Now I now that "certain Windsor's name was Paul, but question is still alive.
Regards
Janusz
I'm sure he's not a royal! Prince Michael of Kent did some rallies with Ford including the London - Mexico.
Fred
Fred Gallagher
21st February 2009, 12:32
Do you know Fred what was the number of Galway Rally 1977? I would also like to know first names of drivers and co-drivers classified in top 10 of Galway'77:
Billy Coleman/Frank O'Donoghue
David Lindsay/D.... Sandford
David Agnew/Robert Harkness
Dessie Nutt/John White
Regards
Janusz
Not sure what you mean by number.
Fred
januszsz
21st February 2009, 12:43
Not sure what you mean by number.
Fred
Sorry for that. I meant number of edition. Like for example this year it will be 66th Rally of Poland.
Regards
Janusz
Fred Gallagher
21st February 2009, 12:48
Sorry for that. I meant number of edition. Like for example this year it will be 66th Rally of Poland.
Regards
Janusz
The programme says it is the 7th.
I'm about to sign off but am happy to try to help with Irish rallies of the 50s to 80s.
Fred
Fred Gallagher
21st February 2009, 12:51
.....and I'm 80% sure it was David Sandford.
Fred
januszsz
21st February 2009, 12:57
The programme says it is the 7th.
I'm about to sign off but am happy to try to help with Irish rallies of the 50s to 80s.
Fred
Thank you very much for "number" of Galway Rally. Do you know htose names I asked about?
I'll be very thankfull for top 10s of Donegal 1975 and 1976. I have also some more question on first names and doubts on who should me marked with nationality indicator IRL and who with GB. If you have nothing against I'll prepare the list.
Regards
Janusz
januszsz
21st February 2009, 13:01
... and same question on "number" of the Donegal Rally 1975.
Janusz
Fred Gallagher
21st February 2009, 13:09
Thank you very much for "number" of Galway Rally. Do you know htose names I asked about?
I'll be very thankfull for top 10s of Donegal 1975 and 1976. I have also some more question on first names and doubts on who should me marked with nationality indicator IRL and who with GB. If you have nothing against I'll prepare the list.
Regards
Janusz
I corrected the names in the quote.
Going out now and will be at a Cross Country Rally in Russia all next week. But happy to look at your lists. I will have the top tens somewhere.
Fred
Wim_Impreza
21st February 2009, 13:13
Boucles de Spa
7 Chavan - Plas, BEL (Mitsubishi Lancer) 15176 points
8 Delettre - Schadeck, BEL (Opel Kadett GT/E) 15509
9 Jean-Louis Dumont - Matterne, BEL (Opel Kadett GT/E) 15515
10 Kohl - Kehl, FRG (Opel Kadett GT/E) 15884
Tulpenrallye (please note, this one has nothing to do with the later Golden Tulip Rally which was a continuation of the Hellendoorn Rally)
7 Jan van der Marel - Erwin Berkhof, NED (Opel Kadett GT/E) 7514 points
8 Maslen - Booth, GBR (Ford Escort RS 1800) 7551
9 Wim Luijbregts - Eine, NED (Volvo 142) 7586
10 Richard - Dickhout, NED (Opel Ascona 19 SR) 7595
Hessen Rallye
4 Rack - Köhler, FRG (Porsche Carrera) 16272
5 Altenheimer - Fabisch, FRG (Porsche Carrera) 16359
6 Hainback - Bartels, FRG (Opel Kadett GT/E) 16409
7 Messmann - Gruber, FRG (Opel Kadett GT/E) 16555
8 Hermann - Hess, FRG (Opel Kadett GT/E) 16769
9 Kern - Gründer, FRG (BMW 2002 TII) 17169
10 Thiry - Hohenadel, FRG (Ford Escort RS2000) 17203
All the above results are from Dutch annual Autosport 77 by Ron Tuyl. Spelling of some names may be inaccurate.
San Martino di Castrozza: http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=639
I have added some surnames and the codriver from Jan van der Marel was Erwin Berkhof, it is the same person who was codriving him in some events of 2008 too.
Fred Gallagher
21st February 2009, 13:15
First Donegal Rally was 1972. Apart from 2001 it has run every year since.
There is a great book, "The Donegal Experience" by Ivan Fuery. Great pictures and top tens (except 1972 & 1973).
I'll try to get Ivan to post here with how to get a copy.
Fred
januszsz
21st February 2009, 13:35
I corrected the names in the quote.
Going out now and will be at a Cross Country Rally in Russia all next week. But happy to look at your lists. I will have the top tens somewhere.
Fred
Once again many thanks to you. I have to blind as I didn't noticed corrections to the quote. I'll prepare the list and wait until you are back from Russia.
Regards
Janusz
januszsz
21st February 2009, 13:41
First Donegal Rally was 1972. Apart from 2001 it has run every year since.
There is a great book, "The Donegal Experience" by Ivan Fuery. Great pictures and top tens (except 1972 & 1973).
I'll try to get Ivan to post here with how to get a copy.
Fred
It would be interesting to have possibility to buy a copy of it.
Janusz
Fred Gallagher
21st February 2009, 13:47
Once again many thanks to you. I have to blind as I didn't noticed corrections to the quote. I'll prepare the list and wait until you are back from Russia.
Regards
Janusz
Post the list anytime Janusz. I will have internet access, just not my archives.
Fred
januszsz
21st February 2009, 13:55
I have added some surnames and the codriver from Jan van der Marel was Erwin Berkhof, it is the same person who was codriving him in some events of 2008 too.
Do you know following names:
Tulpen 77
10. ... Richard
Lucien Bianchi 77
4. .... Demuth / ... Muller
7. .... Engels / ... Kokife (I think it was Robert Rorife, wasn't it?)
8. ... Barbin / ... Laquemanne
9. ... Leclerq / ... Vignon
Hessen 77
3. ... Kuhn / Klaus Hopfe
5. Reiner Altenheimer / ... Fabisch
6. ... (Reinhard? driving Opel?) Bainbach / ... Bartels
7. ... Messmann / ... Gruber
8. ... Hermann / .... Hess
9. Wilhelm Kern / ... Gründer
Taurus 77
5. ... Wolff / ... Meurer
7. ... Welst / ... Gottlieb
9. Thomas Dartsch / .... Gordziel
Sachs-Baltic 77
10. ... Maas / ... Hartwigsen
Regards
Janusz
januszsz
21st February 2009, 14:25
Wim, can you fulfill following results:
Tour de Belgique 74 3rd-10th
Ypres 74 3rd-10th
Lucien Bianchi 75 2nd-10th
Ypres 75 2nd-10th
Ypres 76 4th-10th
Lucien Bianchi 76 7th-10 + first names of
2. ... Roothaerts / ... Nys
3. Maurice Nusbaumer / ... Paul
4. ... Plas / ... Doum
Tour de Corse 70
7. Jean-Marie Jacquemin / ... Rouff
Routes Nord 71
7. Bernard Mordacq / ... Roux
Tour de France 71
5. Jean-Marie Jacquemin / ... Mercier
Tour de Belgique 71
6. ... Daemers / ... Adrainssens
10. ... Maes / ... Defresnes
Boucles de Spa 76
8. "Chavan" / ... Naveau
Tulpen 76
3. Gilbert Staepelaere / .......????
Ypres 77
2. ... Moortgat / ... Andy
du Vin 82
4. Jean-Louis Dumont / ... Peeters
Boucles de Spa 83
15. ... Bastin / Claude Sougne
17. Jacky Delvaux / ... Sevrin
Haspengouw 83
7. Gaby Goudezeune / ... Messine
9. Jose Lareppe / .... Jamar
12. Vital Budo / .... Bielen
15. Bernard Munster / ... de Sloovere
18. ... de Boey / ... Dierickx
Lucien Bianchi 83
4. Jean Pierre van de Wauwer / ... Vanhouten
9. .... Davroux / ... Jamar
10. ... Franck / .... Gehasse
17. ... Probst / Yves Bozet
Boucles de Spa 85
9. Gregoire de Mevius / ... de Rochelee
Costa Brava 85
9. ... Snoeck / Jean Callewaert
Lucien Bianchi 86
6. ... Hendrickx / ... Massaux
Boucles de Spa 87
2. Bernard Munster / ... Demeulemeester
5. Jacky Delvaux / .... Delplace
Haspengouw 87
8. Jan Vandenberge / ... Goeminne
Condroz 87
10. ... Lejeune / ... Navaux
Haspengouw 90
9. Gerard de Boeck / ... Conings
Regards
Janusz
Matthewrally87
21st February 2009, 15:26
Have you got the results (top 5) of Munich-Wien-Budapest Rally 1969?
Thanks so much!!!
Giorgio
21st February 2009, 15:33
15th International Taurus Rallye
1 - Staepelaere-Vaillant, B, Ford Escort RS, 5759p.
2 - Ferjáncz-Iriczfalvi, H, Renault-17 Gordini, 5907p.
3 - Sulz-Weixelbraun, A, Porsche Carrera, 5953p.
4 - Russling-Heissenberger, A, Opel, 6011p.
5 - Haider-Patterman, A, Opel, 6047p.
6 - Günther-Wulf, D, Ford, 6319p.
7 - Fischer-Gottlieb, A, Opel, 633öp.
8 - Dr.Antalffy-Dr.Tandari, H, Renault-12 Gordini, 6386p.
9 - Stohl-Svanda, A, BMW, 6464p.
10-Földes-Dákai, H, Polski-Fiat, 6703p.
Thank you, Robert
Regards
Giorgio
kabouter
21st February 2009, 16:05
I have added some surnames and the codriver from Jan van der Marel was Erwin Berkhof, it is the same person who was codriving him in some events of 2008 too.
Correction, it was Jan Berkhof (I think father of Erwin Berkhof).
Matthewrally87
21st February 2009, 17:27
Have you got the calendar of the FIA Cup for Rally Drivers 1977?
Thanks...
januszsz
21st February 2009, 18:27
Have you got the calendar of the FIA Cup for Rally Drivers 1977?
Thanks...
1. Monte Carlo 22-29.01
2. Arctic 04-06.02 (ERC)
3. Swedish 11-13.02
4. Portugal 01-06.3
5. Safari 07-11.4
6. New Zealand 01-07.5
7. Akropolis 28.5-03.6
8. Giro d'Italia (FIA)
9. Total South Africa 05-09.7 (FIA)
10. Polski 08-10.7 (ERC)
11. 1000 Lakes 26-28.8
12. San Martinio di Castrozza 02-04.9 (ERC)
13. Quebeck 15-18.9
14. Tour de France 15-24.9 (ERC)
15. Sanremo 04-08-10
16. Southern Cross 08-12.10 (FIA)
17. RACE 21-23.10 (ERC)
18. Tour de Corse 05-06.11
19. RAC 18-24.11
20. Badama 15-20.12 (FIA)
It looks like that. I checked Kabouter's list and he has 21 rounds (but not all indicated). The rule was: all WRC rallies and all ERC coefficient 4 plus 4 FIA recomended events and I can't find one more round.
Regards
Janusz
Matthewrally87
21st February 2009, 18:40
Thank you so much januszsz...
Have you got also the calendar of the Fia Cup for rally Drivers 1978?
jirka rk
21st February 2009, 20:01
Have you got the results (top 5) of Munich-Wien-Budapest Rally 1969?
1 W. Roser / L. Mayer A Alpine Renault A110-1300S
2 Jean Vinatier / C. Roure F Alpine Renault A110-1300S
3 W. Pöltinger / J. Hartinger A Porsche 911 T
4 Dr G. Fischer / R. Knoll A BMW 2002
5 H. Neukom / G. Hopf A BMW 2002 TI
6 A. Kaja / V. Dietmayer A BMW 2002
7 K. Reichel / P. Pohl A BMW 2002
8 Alfred Höber / T. Kieselbach A BMW 2002 TI
9 G. Janger / W. Wessiak A VW 1500
10 C.C. Schindler / G. Hruschka Ä VW 1500
Matthewrally87
21st February 2009, 20:06
Thank you so much, jirka rk...
Matthewrally87
21st February 2009, 20:14
Have you got the results (top 5) of these rallies?
DDR Rally 1968
Wiesbaden Rally 1968
Danube-Donau Rally 1968
R.A.C.E. Rally 1968
Thanks...
Wim_Impreza
21st February 2009, 21:35
Correction, it was Jan Berkhof (I think father of Erwin Berkhof).
Ok, sorry.
Janusz, I am too young for these years. I have some old magazines from the seventies and eighties, so maybe I can help you a little bit. I will search in them tomorrow and let you know than. Juha Bos from rallyfoto.be (info@rallyfoto.be) and his father have a much bigger archieve about Belgian rallies, so maybe you can contact him.
Carles Bosch 02
21st February 2009, 23:28
Have you got the results (top 5) of these rallies?
DDR Rally 1968
Wiesbaden Rally 1968
Danube-Donau Rally 1968
R.A.C.E. Rally 1968
Thanks...
Pneumant Rallye DDR:
1, Pauli Toivonen / Martti Tiukkanen?, Porsche 911T
2, Sobieslaw Zasada / Zenon Leszczuk, Porsche 911L
3, Antoni Weiner / Jan Karel, BMW 1600 ti
4, J. Nielsen / M. Sörensen, BMC Cooper S
5, Zdenìk Treybal / P. Štefek, Saab 96 V4
Int. Rallye Wiesbaden:
1, Pauli Toivonen / Martti Kolari, Porsche 911T
2, Sobieslaw Zasada / Franciszek Podstawka, Porsche 911L
3, Jean-François Piot / Pierre-François Rousselot, Alpine-Renault A110 1300 S
4, Jean Vinatier / Maurice Gélin, Alpine-Renault A110 1300 S
5, Vladimír Hubáček / Vojtech Rieger, Renault 8 Gordini
Internationale Donau-Rallye:
1, Pauli Toivonen / Martti Tiukkanen, Porsche 911T
2, Walter Pöltinger / Ernst Merinsky, Volvo 144S
3, Vic Dietmayer / Rolf Hahn, Lancia Fulvia Coupé Rallye HF 1.3
4, Walter Levy / Alfred? Gomoll, BMW 2002
5, Carl Christian Schindler / Gustav Hruschka, VW 1500
Rallye España:
1, Pauli Toivonen / Urpo Vihervaara?, Porsche 911T
2, Jean-François Piot / Jean Todt, Alpine-Renault A110 1300 S
3, Gilbert Staepelaere / André Aerts, Ford Escort TC
4, Raffaele Pinto / Mario Mannucci?, Lancia Fulviab Coupé Rallye HF 1.3
5, Bernard Tramont / Ricardo Muñoz, Alpine-Renault A110 1300 S
Carles.
januszsz
21st February 2009, 23:32
Ok, sorry.
Janusz, I am too young for these years. I have some old magazines from the seventies and eighties, so maybe I can help you a little bit. I will search in them tomorrow and let you know than. Juha Bos from rallyfoto.be (info@rallyfoto.be) and his father have a much bigger archieve about Belgian rallies, so maybe you can contact him.
If you find something it is OK. Don't worry.
Here is FIA Cup 1978:
1. Monte Carlo 21-28.01
2. Arctic 03-05.2 (ERC)
3. Swedish 10-12.02
4. Safari 23-27.3
5. Portugal 19-23.4
6. Akropolis 27.5-02.6
7. Scottish 03-07.6 (ERC)
8. Polski 06-09.7 (ERC)
9. 1000 Lakes 25-27.8
10. New Zealand 02-05.9 (FIA)
11. Tour de France 16-21.9 (ERC)
12. Quebeck 13-17.9
13. Sanremo 03-07.10
14. Giro d'Italia 13-18.10 (FIA)
15. Southern Cross 14-18.10 (FIA)
16. RACE 20-22.10 (ERC)
17. Bandama 21-24.10
18. Tour de Corse 04-05.11
19. RAC 19-23.11
No more than 5 WRC, 2 ERC coefficient 4 and 1 FIA Special rallies to count. If driver didn't participate in ERC round he loses highest WRC score. Drivers not taking part in WRC can keep their points and be classified in the FIA Cup.
point score system was: 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1 points for 1st down to 6th overall. Same rules were in 1977.
Regards
Janusz
Matthewrally87
21st February 2009, 23:35
Thanks so much Carles Bosch 02...
Matthewrally87
21st February 2009, 23:35
Thank you so much januszsz...
Matthewrally87
21st February 2009, 23:36
Have you got the results (only top 5) of Geneve Rally 1968?
Thanks...
januszsz
21st February 2009, 23:39
Pneumant Rallye DDR:
1, Pauli Toivonen / Martti Tiukkanen?, Porsche 911T
2, Sobieslaw Zasada / Zenon Leszczuk, Porsche 911L
3, Antoni Weiner / Jan Karel, BMW 1600 ti
4, J. Nielsen / M. Sörensen, BMC Cooper S
5, Zdenìk Treybal / P. Štefek, Saab 96 V4
Int. Rallye Wiesbaden:
1, Pauli Toivonen / Martti Kolari, Porsche 911T
2, Sobieslaw Zasada / Franciszek Podstawka, Porsche 911L
3, Jean-François Piot / Pierre-François Rousselot, Alpine-Renault A110 1300 S
4, Jean Vinatier / Maurice Gélin, Alpine-Renault A110 1300 S
5, Vladimír Hubáček / Vojtech Rieger, Renault 8 Gordini
Internationale Donau-Rallye:
1, Pauli Toivonen / Martti Tiukkanen, Porsche 911T
2, Walter Pöltinger / Ernst Merinsky, Volvo 144S
3, Vic Dietmayer / Rolf Hahn, Lancia Fulvia Coupé Rallye HF 1.3
4, Walter Levy / Alfred? Gomoll, BMW 2002
5, Carl Christian Schindler / Gustav Hruschka, VW 1500
Rallye España:
1, Pauli Toivonen / Urpo Vihervaara?, Porsche 911T
2, Jean-François Piot / Jean Todt, Alpine-Renault A110 1300 S
3, Gilbert Staepelaere / André Aerts, Ford Escort TC
4, Raffaele Pinto / Mario Mannucci?, Lancia Fulviab Coupé Rallye HF 1.3
5, Bernard Tramont / Ricardo Muñoz, Alpine-Renault A110 1300 S
Carles.
Pneumant Rallye DDR:
1, Pauli Toivonen / Martti Tiukkanen?, Porsche 911T - I have Tiukkanen
4, J. Nielsen / M. Sörensen, BMC Cooper S - I have Kenneth Gram Nielsen
5, Zdenek Treybal / Petr Štefek, Saab 96 V4
Int. Rallye Wiesbaden:
2, Sobieslaw Zasada / Franciszek Podstawka, Porsche 911L - Postawka not PoDstawka
Regards
Janusz
Wim_Impreza
22nd February 2009, 10:01
Janusz, I have found this:
Ypres Rally 1974
3. Gilbert Staepelaere / "Vaillant" (Ford Escort RS 1800)
Ypres Rally 1975
4. Gilbert Staepelaere / "Vaillant" (Ford Escort MK1)
Lucien Bianchi 1975
Full results http://users.skynet.be/nsu-racing/pdf/result_bianchi_75_general.pdf
Unfortunately they are not really clear and there can be some small spelling mistakes as example with the codriver of Jan van der Marel, 11th overall. It must be Berkhof. Note that 'Didi' (3rd overall) is the father of Larry Cols.
Lucien Bianchi 1983
17. Jean-Claude Probst / Yves Bozet
I don't know the real name of "Vaillant". Staepelaere drove all his rallies in 1975 and 1976 with him.
januszsz
22nd February 2009, 11:45
Janusz, I have found this:
Ypres Rally 1974
3. Gilbert Staepelaere / "Vaillant" (Ford Escort RS 1800)
Ypres Rally 1975
4. Gilbert Staepelaere / "Vaillant" (Ford Escort MK1)
Lucien Bianchi 1975
Full results http://users.skynet.be/nsu-racing/pdf/result_bianchi_75_general.pdf
Unfortunately they are not really clear and there can be some small spelling mistakes as example with the codriver of Jan van der Marel, 11th overall. It must be Berkhof. Note that 'Didi' (3rd overall) is the father of Larry Cols.
Lucien Bianchi 1983
17. Jean-Claude Probst / Yves Bozet
I don't know the real name of "Vaillant". Staepelaere drove all his rallies in 1975 and 1976 with him.
Thank you Wim. Bianchi's results are great. I know that Jean-Marie Cols is father of Larry. Vaillant's real name is Eric Syemens.
Regards
Janusz
Wim_Impreza
22nd February 2009, 12:02
Thank you too for the real name of "Vaillant".
RobertS
22nd February 2009, 12:27
" Pictorial " Rally History... :)
Few photos from my archive:
1983 - 25th Rallye San Remo,
Sunday 2 Oct 1983 - Saturday 8 Oct 1983
...preparation..
In the Audi workshop:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4918/53388012.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1605/45818252.jpg
http://pics.livejournal.com/sainzfan/pic/0001aew8
11 - Bernard Darniche - Alain Mahé
http://pics.livejournal.com/sainzfan/pic/000141sa
More photos in my album:
http://sainzfan.livejournal.com/1176.html
Giorgio
22nd February 2009, 15:16
Someone knows the dates ?
?? / ?? / 1964 - 1° Donau Rally
?? / ?? / 1965 - 2° Donau Rally
?? / ?? / 1989 - 23° Donau Rally
?? / ?? / 1990 - 24° Donau Rally
?? / ?? / 1991 - 25° Rally of Romania
?? / ?? / 1992 - 26° Rally of Romania
?? / ?? / 1995 - 29° Rally of Romania
Thanks in advance
Giorgio
911carreraRSR
22nd February 2009, 15:17
:eek: :eek: :eek:
I'm interested if anybody know the start number and registration number of the Porsche cars from these rallies?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
Pneumant Rallye DDR:
1, Pauli Toivonen / Martti Tiukkanen?, Porsche 911T
2, Sobieslaw Zasada / Zenon Leszczuk, Porsche 911L
3, Antoni Weiner / Jan Karel, BMW 1600 ti
4, J. Nielsen / M. Sörensen, BMC Cooper S
5, Zdenìk Treybal / P. Štefek, Saab 96 V4
Int. Rallye Wiesbaden:
1, Pauli Toivonen / Martti Kolari, Porsche 911T
2, Sobieslaw Zasada / Franciszek Postawka, Porsche 911L
3, Jean-François Piot / Pierre-François Rousselot, Alpine-Renault A110 1300 S
4, Jean Vinatier / Maurice Gélin, Alpine-Renault A110 1300 S
5, Vladimír Hubáček / Vojtech Rieger, Renault 8 Gordini
Internationale Donau-Rallye:
1, Pauli Toivonen / Martti Tiukkanen, Porsche 911T
2, Walter Pöltinger / Ernst Merinsky, Volvo 144S
3, Vic Dietmayer / Rolf Hahn, Lancia Fulvia Coupé Rallye HF 1.3
4, Walter Levy / Alfred? Gomoll, BMW 2002
5, Carl Christian Schindler / Gustav Hruschka, VW 1500
Rallye España:
1, Pauli Toivonen / Urpo Vihervaara?, Porsche 911T
2, Jean-François Piot / Jean Todt, Alpine-Renault A110 1300 S
3, Gilbert Staepelaere / André Aerts, Ford Escort TC
4, Raffaele Pinto / Mario Mannucci?, Lancia Fulviab Coupé Rallye HF 1.3
5, Bernard Tramont / Ricardo Muñoz, Alpine-Renault A110 1300 S
Carles.
Matthewrally87
22nd February 2009, 15:48
Have you got the results (only top 5) of these rallies?
Geneve Rally 1968
Giro Automobilistico d'Italia 1977
Tour de France 1977
Giro Automobilistico d'Italia 1978
Thanks...
911carreraRSR
22nd February 2009, 16:04
Have you got the results (only top 5) of these rallies?
Geneve Rally 1968
Giro Automobilistico d'Italia 1977
Tour de France 1977
Giro Automobilistico d'Italia 1978
Thanks...
I'have only these:
Geneva rallye
1.Pauli Toivonen / Virhevaara Porsche 911 T
2.Lucien Bianchi / Jacquemin Alfa Romeo GTA
3.G Verrier / Murac Alfa Romeo GTA
4.Gilbert Staepelaere / Aerts Ford Escort TC
Tour de France 1977
2.Mouton/Conconi - Porsche Carrera
Matthewrally87
22nd February 2009, 16:08
I'have only these:
Geneva rallye
1.Pauli Toivonen / Virhevaara Porsche 911 T
2.Lucien Bianchi / Jacquemin Alfa Romeo GTA
3.G Verrier / Murac Alfa Romeo GTA
4.Gilbert Staepelaere / Aerts Ford Escort TC
Tour de France 1977
2.Mouton/Conconi - Porsche Carrera
Thank you so much...
911carreraRSR
22nd February 2009, 16:22
1° S. Zasada / Zyskowski Porsche 911
2° A. Ferjancz / Zsembery Renault 12 Gordini
3° Knorr / Schweizer Porsche 911
4° Koltay / Ogrisek BMW 2002 Ti
5° Muehleck / Zepfel Porsche 911
6° Rack / Kohler Porsche 911
7° Dietmayer / Schurek BMW 2002 Ti
8° Miersch / Frolich Opel Ascona 1.9
9° Husar / Boks Fiat 125 S
10° Fessl / Eggenberger Fiat 128 Rally
Hi Friends,
Do you have anybody photo of the Ferjancz/Zsembery - Renault 12 Gordini from this rally Munich-Wienn-Budapest 1972 ?
Carles Bosch 02
22nd February 2009, 16:29
:eek: :eek: :eek:
I'm interested if anybody know the start number and registration number of the Porsche cars from these rallies?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
'68 Wiesbaden, Toivonen's Porsche: #1, S-C 9166
'68 Donau, Toivonen's Porsche: #5, S-C 9166
'68 España, Toivonen's Porsche: #1, S-C 9166
Carles.
jrally
22nd February 2009, 16:40
Carles,
Are you sure that first name of Vic Dietmayer's, Hahn, is Rolf ?
I have it beggining with one 'L' !
Regards
jorge
Carles Bosch 02
22nd February 2009, 16:43
Have you got the results (only top 5) of these rallies?
Geneve Rally 1968
Giro Automobilistico d'Italia 1977
Tour de France 1977
Giro Automobilistico d'Italia 1978
Thanks...
'68 Rallye de Genève
1, Pauli Toivonen & Urpo Vihervaara, Porsche 911T (#14, S-E 8330)
2, Lucien Bianchi & Jean-Marie Jacquemin, Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA
3, Guy Verrier & Francis Murac, Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA
4, Gilbert Staepelaere & André Aerts, Ford Escort TC
5, Arthur Blank & Freddy Karrer, Porsche 911L
'77 Giro d'Italia
1, Coggiola & Monticone, Porsche 935 (#536)
2, Bianco G. & 'Tambauto', Porsche 934
3, Pietromarchi & Naddeo, De Tomaso Pantera
4, Caliceti & Anzalone, Porsche 911 Carrera RSR
5, Milano & Pozzo, Porsche 911 Carrera RS
'77 Tour de France
1, Bernard Darniche & Alain Mahé, Lancia Stratos HF
2, Michèle Mouton & Françoise conconi, Porsche 911 Carrera (#122, 9442 RH 34)
3, Striebig & Roussely, Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0 (#156, 5786 RP? 67)
4, Anny-Charlotte Verney & Denise Emanuelli, Porsche 911 Carrera (#162, 17 GC 92)
5, Jean-Hug Hazard & Mangel, BMW 3.0 CSL
Carles.
911carreraRSR
22nd February 2009, 16:45
'68 Wiesbaden, Toivonen's Porsche: #1, S-C 9166
'68 Donau, Toivonen's Porsche: #5, S-C 9166
'68 España, Toivonen's Porsche: #1, S-C 9166
Carles.
Carles do you know the start number of the ZASADA?
Carles Bosch 02
22nd February 2009, 16:46
Carles,
Are you sure that first name of Vic Dietmayer's, Hahn, is Rolf ?
I have it beggining with one 'L' !
Regards
jorge
I'm not pretty sure. Possibly there were two Hahns: Rolf and another one beggining with L., 'cause I've both in my database...
Carles.
Carles Bosch 02
22nd February 2009, 16:46
Carles do you know the start number of the ZASADA?
I'm sorry, but I can't help you in this one...
Carles.
Matthewrally87
22nd February 2009, 16:52
Carles, have you got also the 1968 and 1969 ERC's drivers and manufactures classifications?
Thanks...
jirka rk
22nd February 2009, 16:53
'68 Rallye de Genève
1. Pauli Toivonen / Virhevaara SF Porsche 911 T
2. Lucien Bianchi / Jacquemin B Alfa Romeo GTA
3. Guy Verrier / Murac F Alfa Romeo GTA
4. Gilbert Staepelaere / Andre Aerts B Ford Escort TC
5. Blank / Karrer Porsche 911 L
6. Cochet / Feuz Porsche 911
7. Bob Wolleck / Delauney Renault 8 Gordini
8. Claude Haldi / E. Chapuis CH Porsche 911
9. Jean Jacques Thuner / John Gretener Triumph TR 5
10. Noel Labaune / Rodet Alfa Romeo GTA
'77 Tour de France
1. Darniche / Mahe F Lancia Stratos HF
2. Mouton / Conconi F Porsche Carrera
3. Striebig / Roussely Porsche Carrera RSR
4. Verney / Emmanuelli Porsche Carrera
5. Hazard / Manoel F BMW 3.0 CSL
6. Meny / Rerger Renault Alpine A 110
7. Clarr / La Verne F Opel Kadett GT/E
8. Daument / "Zaf" Opel Kadett GT/E
9. Eos / Fallot Porsche Carrera
10. Rey / Strotz Porsche Carrera
Matthewrally87
22nd February 2009, 16:59
Thanks jirka rk...
kabouter
22nd February 2009, 17:33
1. Monte Carlo 22-29.01
2. Arctic 04-06.02 (ERC)
3. Swedish 11-13.02
4. Portugal 01-06.3
5. Safari 07-11.4
6. New Zealand 01-07.5
7. Akropolis 28.5-03.6
8. Giro d'Italia (FIA)
9. Total South Africa 05-09.7 (FIA)
10. Polski 08-10.7 (ERC)
11. 1000 Lakes 26-28.8
12. San Martino di Castrozza 02-04.9 (ERC)
13. Quebec 15-18.9
14. Tour de France 15-24.9 (ERC)
15. Sanremo 04-08-10
16. Southern Cross 08-12.10 (FIA)
17. RACE 21-23.10 (ERC)
18. Tour de Corse 05-06.11
19. RAC 18-24.11
20. Bandama 15-20.12 (FIA)
It looks like that. I checked Kabouter's list and he has 21 rounds (but not all indicated). The rule was: all WRC rallies and all ERC coefficient 4 plus 4 FIA recomended events and I can't find one more round.
Regards
Janusz
According to my table also the Scottish Rally was a round (I suppose it was a coefficient 4 round in the ERC). It was held in June I think, but I cannot find the exact date at the moment.
Matthewrally87
22nd February 2009, 17:55
x kabouter
Have you got the classification of the Scottish Rally 1977?
Steve Boyd
22nd February 2009, 17:55
Jirka and RobertS - thank you very much. Anybody knows if a cetrain Windsor (10th overall in Criterium Lucien Bianchi'77) is a mamber of British Royal Family? I remeber that somebody of that family did RAC rallies... but I don't remember his name (it was Prince of something)
Regards
Janusz
Definitely not!
It is Paul Windsor from Liverpool (a neighbour of mine at the time). His co-driver on this event was Brian Goff.
The member of the British Royal Family that used to compete was Prince Michael of Kent. He maintains his interest in the sport and is currently President of the Council of the UK Motorsports Association.
Matthewrally87
22nd February 2009, 18:03
x kabouter
Scottish Rally 5th-7th June 1977
1. Ari Vatanen - Peter Bryant (Ford Escort RS1800)
2. Tony Pond - Fred Gallagher (Triumph TR7)
3. Russell Brookes - John Brown (Ford Escort RS1800)
4. Billy Coleman - David Richards (Fiat Abarth 131)
5. Andy Dawson - ??? ??? (Ford Escort RS1800)
6. Jim Howdon - ??? ??? (Ford Escort RS1800)
7. Malcolm Wilson - ??? ??? (Ford Escort RS2000)
elvis
22nd February 2009, 18:47
Hi everybody :wave: ,
I need your precious help about french rally championship. I wanna know final classification of season 1988 , 1989 , 1990 and 1991. (top 5 and points).
these informations will be use for some pages on french wikipedia (like this one : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Championnat_de_France_des_rallyes_1994 )
thanks again for your help
elvis
januszsz
22nd February 2009, 18:49
According to my table also the Scottish Rally was a round (I suppose it was a coefficient 4 round in the ERC). It was held in June I think, but I cannot find the exact date at the moment.
I have Scottish'77 as a coefficient 3 ERC rally. Is anybody able to point the right coefficient?
Regards
Janusz
jrally
22nd February 2009, 18:58
I have Scottish'77 as a coefficient 3 ERC rally. Is anybody able to point the right coefficient?
Regards
Janusz
You are right ! Coef 3 !
Best regards
jorge
januszsz
22nd February 2009, 20:11
You are right ! Coef 3 !
Best regards
jorge
I just checked old magazines and in french Auto Sport I found a table on subject of FIA Cup 77 and Scottish was in that tabel (!). I found also a press cutter with Scottish Rally'77 result and there was a note (writen with my hand) "coeff 4". It was 32 years ago... I was ready to write "Kabouter you are right" and now I am back in the starting point. But that Sport Auto tabel is a kind of evidence.
Regards
Janusz
FAL
22nd February 2009, 20:34
I don't know - and I competed on it!
The programme does not mention the ERC coefficient.
If it was 4 rather than 3 it must have been a last minute change because another Coeff 4 rally was cancelled?
All I remember is UK Internationals were usually Coeff 2 and I think the Scottish and Circuit of Ireland tried to upgrade (Manx later too?). It just wasn't important to 99% of the entrants at the time!
The entry list shows me as co-driver for two different cars - but I only managed to be in one!
FAL
22nd February 2009, 20:42
x kabouter
Scottish Rally 5th-7th June 1977
1. Ari Vatanen - Peter Bryant (Ford Escort RS1800)
2. Tony Pond - Fred Gallagher (Triumph TR7)
3. Russell Brookes - John Brown (Ford Escort RS1800)
4. Billy Coleman - David Richards (Fiat Abarth 131)
5. Andy Dawson - ??? ??? (Ford Escort RS1800)
6. Jim Howdon - ??? ??? (Ford Escort RS1800)
7. Malcolm Wilson - ??? ??? (Ford Escort RS2000)
Dawson - Rodney Spokes
Howden - Ian Marwick
Wilson - John Davies
BDunnell
22nd February 2009, 21:55
All I remember is UK Internationals were usually Coeff 2 and I think the Scottish and Circuit of Ireland tried to upgrade (Manx later too?).
I'm pretty certain that the Manx managed to upgrade, hence participation by drivers like Patrick Snijers and Fabrizio Tabaton in 1988, for instance. Don't know about the Circuit and the Scottish.
Matthewrally87
22nd February 2009, 22:08
Have you got the results (top 5) of Giro Automobilistico d'Italia 1978?
Thanks...
kabouter
22nd February 2009, 22:28
The Scottish Rally was a coefficient 4 round in 1978 for sure, and returned to coefficient 3 status in 1981. I cannot add anything to the 1977 result, by the way. But it would be nice to get confirmation about it being part of the 1977 FIA Cup for Drivers, or not.
Carles Bosch 02
22nd February 2009, 23:57
Carles, have you got also the 1968 and 1969 ERC's drivers and manufactures classifications?
Thanks...
'68 ERC for Constructors
1, Ford (GB), 45 pts
2, Saab, 36 pts
3, Renault, 29 pts
4, Porsche, 28 pts
5, Lancia, 27 pts
'68 ERC for Drivers
1, Pauli Toivonen
'69 ERC for Constructors
1, Ford (Europe), 38 pts
2, Porsche, 31 pts
3, BMW, 30 pts
4, Opel, 20 pts
5, Alpine-Renault, 13 pts
'69 ERC for Drivers
1, Harry Källström
2, Gilbert Staapeleare
Carles.
Carles Bosch 02
23rd February 2009, 00:07
The Scottish Rally was a coefficient 4 round in 1978 for sure, and returned to coefficient 3 status in 1981. I cannot add anything to the 1977 result, by the way. But it would be nice to get confirmation about it being part of the 1977 FIA Cup for Drivers, or not.
According to the italian year-book 'velocità e rally 77', it wasn't...
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8346/77fiacupfordrivers.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Carles.
Matthewrally87
23rd February 2009, 09:56
'68 ERC for Constructors
1, Ford (GB), 45 pts
2, Saab, 36 pts
3, Renault, 29 pts
4, Porsche, 28 pts
5, Lancia, 27 pts
'68 ERC for Drivers
1, Pauli Toivonen
'69 ERC for Constructors
1, Ford (Europe), 38 pts
2, Porsche, 31 pts
3, BMW, 30 pts
4, Opel, 20 pts
5, Alpine-Renault, 13 pts
'69 ERC for Drivers
1, Harry Källström
2, Gilbert Staapeleare
Carles.
Thank you so much Carles...
Matthewrally87
23rd February 2009, 14:09
Hi, have you got the results (only top 5) of these rallies?
Pneumant Rally 1967
East Germany Rally 1967
Donau Rally 1967
R.A.C.E. Rally 1967
Munich-Wien-Budapest 1967
Thanks
dario
23rd February 2009, 18:15
[quote="Matthewrally87"]Hi, have you got the results (only top 5) of these rallies?
Pneumant Rally 1967
East Germany Rally 1967 16-19 March
1. Vic Elford - David Stone Porsche 911S
2. Jean Pierre Hanrioud - Jean Claude Peray Porsche 911S
3. Sobieslaw Zasada - Eugeniusz Pach Porsche 911S
4. Jean Pierre Gaban - Jean Marie Jacquemin Porsche 911S
5. Bob Neyret - Jacques Terramorsi Citroen DS21
6. Jean Claude Ogier - Lucette Pointet Citroen DS21
7. Renè Trautmann - Philippe Leyssieux Lancia Fulvia HF
8. Patrick Lier - Silvie Vaglio Sunbeam IMP
9. F. Schlinger - G. Couzian Renault 8 Gordini
10. S. Garant - B. Stoikovitch Porsche 911S
11. to 39 ???
Withdraw :
Claudine Bouchet ( Lancia HF ) - Robert Buchet (Porsche 911S ) -
Jean Vinatier - JF. Jacob ( Alpine 110 ) - JC. Andruet - Maurice Gelin ( Renault 8 ) - Mauro Bianchi -JC. Perramond ( Alpine 110 ) - Claude Laurent - Jacques Marchè ( BMW 2002 ) - Gerard Larrousse - Marcel Callewaert ( Alpine 110 ) - Jean Rolland - Gabriel Augias ( Alfa GTA ) - Jean Francois Piot - Claude Roure ( Alpine 110 )
Rally Leaders : J. Rolland 11ps - V. Elford 3 ps
Winner PS : J. Rolland 6 0 0 - V. Elford 3 7 1 - G. Larrousse 3 1 1 -
M. Bianchi 2 4 0 - JP. Hanrioud 0 2 0 - S. Zasada 0 1 2 - JF. Piot 0 0 3 -
J. Vinatier 0 0 3 - B. Fiorentino , R. Trautmann , B. Neyret , P. Maublanc and
R. Dutoit 0 0 1 -
If anyone has other informations ( 11° to 39° classified - other withdraw - other informations about the results of special stages ) please send it for all the people of the forum . For this and the other similar questions, always please
Thanks in advance
Dario.
dario
23rd February 2009, 18:33
[quote="Matthewrally87"]Hi, have you got the results (only top 5) of these rallies?
Donau Rally 1967 19-22 July 2700km - 10 ps ?
1.Tony Fall - Mike Wood Austin 1800 Maxi
2. Jean Vinatier - Claude Roure Renault 8 Gordini
3. Gunter Wallrabenstein - Bretthauer Porsche 911s
4. Robert Bochnicek - Dieter Kernmayer Citroen DS 21
5. Sobieslaw Zasada - Ryszard Nowicki Porsche 912 T
6. G. Tusch - G. Hopf Renault 8 Gordini
7. Joachim Springer - Gunther Brendl BMW 1600
8. E. Wittig - Harald Gottlieb Alfa Romeo
9. Gerhard Poltinger - Ernst Merinski Vw 1500s
10. J. Eschey - Dieter Eymann BMW 2000
11 to 27 ???
Withdraw : Rauno Aaltonen - Henry Liddon ( BMC Mini Cooper ) - Brian Culchet - Jonstone Syer ( Austin 1800 ) JF. Piot - x Brenaud ( Renault 8 G )
Arnulf Pilhatsch - xx ( BMW 2000 ) ? ? ?
Rally Leaders : T. Fall 2 ps - R. Aaltonen 6 ps - J. Vinatier 2 ps - ?
Winner SS : xxxx ?
Best Regards
Dario
dario
23rd February 2009, 20:03
[quote="Matthewrally87"]Hi, have you got the results (only top 5) of these rallies?
Munich-Wien-Budapest 1967 5-8 October 2380 km - 5 ps ?
1. Jean Francois Piot - Brenaud ( Renault 8 Gordini )
2. Bengt Soderstrom - Gunnar Palm ( Ford Lotus Cortina )
3. Klaus Reisch - Helmut Schwab ( Triumph Spitfire )
4. Lasse Jonsson - Eriksson ( Saab 96 )
5. Walter Roser - Peter Jankl ( Renault 8 Gordini )
6. T. Reichel - Pohl ( BMW 2000 )
7. Muhleck - Lowenhardt ( Porsche 911 s )
8. Gernot Fischer - Queissner ( MG- B )
9. H. Klomfar - H. Hopf ( porsche 911s )
10. Wittig - Harald Gottlieb ( Alfa GTA )
11. to x ?
Withdraw: Renè Trautmann - Claudine Bouchet ( Lancia HF ) - Gilbert Staepelaere - Andrè Aertz ( Ford Lotus Cortina ) - Arnaldo Cavallari - Roberto Angiolini ( Alfa GTA ) - Gunter Wallrabenstein - x ( Porsche 911 T )
Rally Leaders : B. Soderstrom 2 ps - JF. Piot 3 ps
Winners Special Stages : JF. Piot 3 2 0 - B. Soderstrom 2 3 0 - G. Wallrabenstein 0 0 2 - W. Roser 0 0 1 - W. Reisch 0 0 1 - L. Jonsson 0 0 1
best Regards
Dario
FAL
23rd February 2009, 20:52
1967 Donau, Fall - 1800, not "Maxi".
dario
23rd February 2009, 21:36
[quote="Matthewrally87"]Hi, have you got the results (only top 5) of these rallies?
R.A.C.E. Rally 1967 25-27 October 2114 km - with 15ps x 419 km
1. Ove Andersson - John Davenport ( Lancia HF )
2. Sandro Munari - Luciano Lombardini ( Lancia HF )
3. Bernard Tramont - Ricardo Munoz ( Alpine 110 )
4. Lillebror Nasenius - Matti Vigren ( Opel Commodore )
5. Josè Lampreia - Jorge Nascimento ( Renault R8 )
6. Josè Maria Juncadella - S. Molist ( BMC Mini Cooper )
7. Jorge De Bagration - J. Barcenas ( Lancia HF )
8. Arnaldo Cavallari - Dante Salvay ( Alfa GTA )
9. Dieter Lambart - Hans Vogt ( Opel Commodore )
10. Henry Greder - Marie Claude Beaumont ( Opel Commodore )
11. to 14 ????
Withdraw :Estanislao Reverter - A. Reverter ( Alfa GTA ) - Jean Vinatier - Jean Francois Jacob ( Alpine 110 ) - Sobislaw Zasada - Ewa Zasada ( Porsche 911s ) - Sergio Barbasio - F. Genta ( Lancia HF )
Rally Leaders : O. Andersson 14 ps - S. Munari 1 ps
Winners Special Stages : ????
Best Regards
Dario
Matthewrally87
23rd February 2009, 22:04
x dario
Grazie mille dario...
Non è che hai anche i primi 5 classificati del Giro Automobilistico d'Italia 1978?
Matthewrally87
23rd February 2009, 22:42
Have you got these results (only top 5)?
Swedish Rally 1965
Tulpen Rally 1965
Munich-Wien-Budapest 1965
Thanks so much...
Steve Boyd
24th February 2009, 01:28
Originally Posted by FAL
All I remember is UK Internationals were usually Coeff 2 and I think the Scottish and Circuit of Ireland tried to upgrade (Manx later too?).
I'm pretty certain that the Manx managed to upgrade, hence participation by drivers like Patrick Snijers and Fabrizio Tabaton in 1988, for instance. Don't know about the Circuit and the Scottish.
The Manx was a round of the European Championship from 1983, with coeff 3 in 1985 & coeff 4 in 1986 and remained at the highest coefficient (later 20) until 1996. The event withdrew from the European Championship in 1997 when the BRC was for F2 cars & it wasn't politically correct for the top BRC runners to be beaten by A8 cars.
Carles Bosch 02
24th February 2009, 23:16
Hi, have you got the results (only top 5) of these rallies?
Pneumant Rally 1967
East Germany Rally 1967
Donau Rally 1967
R.A.C.E. Rally 1967
Munich-Wien-Budapest 1967
Thanks
The '67 Pneumant Rallye and the East German Rally were the same event, Pneumant being the main sponsor.
Carles.
Carles Bosch 02
24th February 2009, 23:29
Hi, have you got the results (only top 5) of these rallies?
Pneumant Rally 1967
East Germany Rally 1967 16-19 March
1. Vic Elford - David Stone Porsche 911S
2. Jean Pierre Hanrioud - Jean Claude Peray Porsche 911S
3. Sobieslaw Zasada - Eugeniusz Pach Porsche 911S
4. Jean Pierre Gaban - Jean Marie Jacquemin Porsche 911S
5. Bob Neyret - Jacques Terramorsi Citroen DS21
6. Jean Claude Ogier - Lucette Pointet Citroen DS21
7. Renè Trautmann - Philippe Leyssieux Lancia Fulvia HF
8. Patrick Lier - Silvie Vaglio Sunbeam IMP
9. F. Schlinger - G. Couzian Renault 8 Gordini
10. S. Garant - B. Stoikovitch Porsche 911S
11. to 39 ???
Withdraw :
Claudine Bouchet ( Lancia HF ) - Robert Buchet (Porsche 911S ) -
Jean Vinatier - JF. Jacob ( Alpine 110 ) - JC. Andruet - Maurice Gelin ( Renault 8 ) - Mauro Bianchi -JC. Perramond ( Alpine 110 ) - Claude Laurent - Jacques Marchè ( BMW 2002 ) - Gerard Larrousse - Marcel Callewaert ( Alpine 110 ) - Jean Rolland - Gabriel Augias ( Alfa GTA ) - Jean Francois Piot - Claude Roure ( Alpine 110 )
Rally Leaders : J. Rolland 11ps - V. Elford 3 ps
Winner PS : J. Rolland 6 0 0 - V. Elford 3 7 1 - G. Larrousse 3 1 1 -
M. Bianchi 2 4 0 - JP. Hanrioud 0 2 0 - S. Zasada 0 1 2 - JF. Piot 0 0 3 -
J. Vinatier 0 0 3 - B. Fiorentino , R. Trautmann , B. Neyret , P. Maublanc and
R. Dutoit 0 0 1 -
If anyone has other informations ( 11° to 39° classified - other withdraw - other informations about the results of special stages ) please send it for all the people of the forum . For this and the other similar questions, always please
Thanks in advance
Dario.
Hi, Dario,
the results you've posted, are from the Rallye Lyon-Charbonnières/Stuttgart ('67 ERC 4th meeting), while those of the Pneumant Rallye ('67 ERC 5th meeting), were as follows:
1, Günter Rüttinger & Günter Bork, Wartburg 353
2, Kurt Otto & Wolfgang Strehlow, Wartburg 353
3, Kurt Rüdiger & Egon Culmbacher, Wartburg 353
4, Nielsen & M. Sörensen, BMC Cooper
5, Hans Ullmann, Trabant 601
Carles.
Carles Bosch 02
24th February 2009, 23:43
Have you got these results (only top 5)?
Swedish Rally 1965
Tulpen Rally 1965
Munich-Wien-Budapest 1965
Thanks so much...
16. K.A.K.-Rallyt
1, Tom Trana & Gunnar Thermaenius, Volvo PV 544 B18 Sport
2, Åke Andersson & Sven-Olof Svederg, Saab 96 Sport
3, Björn Waldegård & Lars Nyström, VW 1500 S
4, Carl-Magnus Skogh & Lennart Berggren, Volvo 122S B18 Amazon
5, Ove Eriksson & Lars Lundblad, Opel Rekord Coupé
17. Tulpen Rallye
1, Rosemary Smith & Val Domleo, Hillman Imp
2, Tiny Lewis & David Pollard, Hillman Imp
3, Hans Lund & Björn Wahlgren, Saab 96 Sport
4, Olle Dahl & Lars-Erik Haag, Saab 96 Sport
5, Jean-Jacques Thuner & John Gretener, Triumph 2000
1. Int.Stadte-Rallye München-Wien-Budapest
1, Rauno Aaltonen & Tony Ambrose, Austin Cooper S 1275
2, Jean-Jacques Thuner & Hitch, Ford Cortina GT
3, Arnulf Pilhatsch & Peter Lederer, BMW 1800 ti
4, Sobieslaw Zasada & Kazimierz Osinski, Steyr-Puch 650 TR
5, Herbert Kohlweiss & D.B. Martellanz, Alfa Romeo
Carles.
dario
25th February 2009, 07:33
[quote="Carles Bosch 02"][quote="dario"]
Hi, Dario,
the results you've posted, are from the Rallye Lyon-Charbonnières/Stuttgart ('67 ERC 4th meeting), while those of the Pneumant Rallye ('67 ERC 5th meeting), were as follows:
Carles , the Lyon-Charbonnieres 1967 is the 4th meeting of ERC ( The Germany ) , the DDR is the 6th.
http://pcallais.free.fr/rallyeretro/retro7.html
also C. Frey in the " Les Rallyes " and R. Klein in the Books of rallyes ,support the same thing.
Best regards Dario
Matthewrally87
25th February 2009, 20:21
Thanks so much, Carles and Dario...
Matthewrally87
25th February 2009, 20:26
Have you got the top 5 of these rallies?
Osterreichische Alpenfahrt 1964
Tulip Rally 1963
Acropolis Rally 1963
Swedish Rally 1963
Deutschland Rally 1963
Liegi-Sofia-Liegi 1963
Sardinia Rally 1963
Thanks...
dario
25th February 2009, 21:02
[quote="Matthewrally87"]Have you got the results (top 5) of Giro Automobilistico d'Italia 1978?
13-18 Ottobre 2618km con 17 PS.
1. Markku Alen - Giorgio Pianta - I. Kivimaki (Lancia Stratos Turbo )
2. Carlo Facetti - Martino Finotto ( Porsche 935 Turbo )
3. Leo Pittoni - Sergio Cresto ( Lancia Stratos )
4. Michelle Mouton - Francois Conconi ( Fiat 131 Abarth )
5. Riccardo Patrese - Piero Sodano ( Fiat Ritmo )
6. R. Regis - Cena ( Porsche Carrera )
7. Pozzo - Milani ( Porsche 935 Turbo )
8. R. Nardini - Fortini ( Porsche Carrera )
9. JP. Bos - Sandt ( Porsche Carrera )
10. " Spiffero " - Elmer ( De Tomaso Pantera )
Se vuoi sapere altro, chiedi pure, i dati che ho sono per tutti .
Ciao
Dario
Matthewrally87
25th February 2009, 22:40
x Dario
Ciao... Nel tuo archivio hai anche i risultati del ERC degli anni '50?
dario
25th February 2009, 22:47
x Dario
Ciao... Nel tuo archivio hai anche i risultati del ERC degli anni '50?
si , almeno i primi 10 di quasi tutti i rally, a volte anche di più.
avevo già cominciato a scriverli ( chiedendo suggerimenti e aggiunte ) ma visto lo scarso successo ho smesso.
ciao
Dario
Carles Bosch 02
26th February 2009, 08:08
Have you got the top 5 of these rallies?
Osterreichische Alpenfahrt 1964
Tulip Rally 1963
Acropolis Rally 1963
Swedish Rally 1963
Deutschland Rally 1963
Liegi-Sofia-Liegi 1963
Sardinia Rally 1963
Thanks...
35 Österreichische Alpenfahrt
1, Paddy Hopkirk & Henry Liddon, Austin-Healey 3000
2, Johannes Örtner & Hubert Thaler, Steyr-Puch 650 TR
3, Arnaldo Cavallari & Fulvio Rubbieri, Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Super
4, Wilfried Gass & Jurgen Säckl, Porsche 356C Carrera 2 Coupé
5, Walter Pöltinger & Ernst Merinsky, BMC Cooper S
15 Internationale Tulpenrallye
1, Henri Gréder & Martial Delalande, Ford Falcon Futura
2, Paddy Hopkirk & Henry Liddon, Morris Cooper
3, Gunnar Andersson & Lennart Berggren, Volvo 122S B18 Amazon
4, L.H. Bakker & Heinz Umbach, Porsche 356B Carrera Coupé 1600
5, Alfred Kling & Georg Kaufmann, Auto Union DKW Junior F11
11 Acropolis Rally
1, Eugen Böhringer & Rolf Knoll, Mercedes-Benz 300 SE
2, Gunnar Andersson & Valter Karlsson?, Volvo 122S B18 Amazon
3, Carl-Magnus Skogh & Lennart Berggren, Volvo 122S B18 Amazon
4, Henry Taylor & Brian Melia, Ford Cortina GT
5, Dieter Glemser & Klaus Kaiser, Mercedes-Benz 300 SE
14 Svenska Midnattssolen Rallyt
1, Berndt Jansson & Erik Pettersson, Porsche 356B Carrera 2 Coupé
2, Erik Carlsson & Gunnar Palm, Saab 96 Sport
3, Bo Ljungfeldt & Bertil Rehnfeldt, Ford Cortina GT
4, Olle Bromark & Kjell Lyxell, Saab 96 Sport?
5, Ove Andersson & Gunnar Wiman, BMC Cooper S 1071?
25 Rallye Wiesbaden-Deutschland
1, Eugen Böhringer & Klaus Kaiser, Mercedes-Benz 300 SEb
2, Dieter Glemser & Martin Braungart, Mercedes-Benz 220 SE
3, Gunnar Andersson & Gunnar Häggbom, Volvo 122S B18 Amazon
4, Dieter Gerhards & Klaus Umbach, Mercedes-Benz 220 SE
5, Nico Koob & Armand Wies, DKW F12
22 Spa Sofia Liège
1, Eugen Böhringer & Klaus Kaiser, Mercedes-Benz 230 SL
2, Erik Carlsson & Gunnar Palm, Saab 96 Sport
3, Lucien Bianchi & Jean-Claude Ogier, Citroën DS 19
4, Henry Taylor & Brian Melia, Ford Cortina GT
5, Roger de Lageneste & Alain Bertaut, Citroën DS 19
7 Rallye Sardegna
1, Ernesto Prinoth & Aldo Morgantini, Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Super
2, Arnaldo Cavallari & Enzo Martoni, Alfa Romeo Giulietta ti
3, Walter Roser & Peter Lederer, Steyr-Puch 650 TR
4, Piero Frescobaldi & ? Martelli, Abarth 850 TC
5, Mario & T. Casula, Lancia Flavia
Carles.
Matthewrally87
26th February 2009, 11:44
Thanks Carles...
Matthewrally87
26th February 2009, 11:49
Have you got the top 5 of these rallies?
Acropolis Rally 1962
Liegi-Sofia-Liegi 1962
Deutschland Rally (Baden Baden ???) 1962
Geneve Rally 1962
Thanks
Fred Gallagher
26th February 2009, 15:39
First Donegal Rally was 1972. Apart from 2001 it has run every year since.
There is a great book, "The Donegal Experience" by Ivan Fuery. Great pictures and top tens (except 1972 & 1973).
I'll try to get Ivan to post here with how to get a copy.
Fred
The book is available here: http://www.donegalmotorclub.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=39&Itemid=2
Fred
RobertS
27th February 2009, 12:03
7-9 May 1965, X. Rallye-Adria, Yugoslavia
1. Sobieslaw Zasada-Eva Zasada PL Steyr-Puch 1522p.
2. János Kesjár - Dezső Krisztics H Morris-Cooper 1591p.
3. Myeczislaw Sochacki - Aleksander Sobanski PL Volvo 1593p.
4. Ferry Siller - Josefine Siller A Austin-Cooper 1658p.
5. .......
There was a fatal accident with a Yugoslavian Zastava, the co-driver died.
Do you know his name ?
DIMI44
27th February 2009, 18:20
Have you got the top 5 of these rallies?
Acropolis Rally 1962
1.No 31 E.BOHRINGER /P. LANG Mercedes 220 SEB
2.No 97 E. CARLSSON / K.SVENSSON Saab 96
3.No 47 R.TRAUTMAN / E.LAURENT Citroen DS19
4.No 12 H. WALTER /J. SCHOTTLER Porsche 356b/1600
5.No 28 K. HARRIS / PASKAL ICKX Mercedes 220 SE
Giorgio
27th February 2009, 19:38
Someone knows .....
1951
Jacques Péron - R????? Bertramnier
François Picard - ????? Farge
M????? Hache - ????? Crespin
Mme ?????? Hammersley - Mlle ?????? Hammersley
1952
Marc Gignoux - Mme ????? Gignoux
Jean Rédelé - ?????? Moser
Charles Plantivaux - ?????? Mazalon
Claire Pochon - ????? Trott - ?????? Boucher
1953
Michel Dubonnet - Mlle ????? Dubonnet
1954
Jean Estager - P????? Proto
Annie Bousquet - M????? C?????? de Baulieu
Bruno Martignoni (I) - T??????? Rabezzana
J????? Jauson - P?????? Bourgat
1956
René Cotton - J????? Leclère
Jack Renel - ?????? Bessey
1957
J?????? Jauson - Jo Schlesser
????? Amy - ?????? Fredmesh
?????? Maret - Jo Paturel
Annie Soisbault - ?????? Cancre
1958
"Fantomas" (Sergio Bettoja) (I) - ?????? Lancelotti (I)
René Trautmann - ????? Gros-Roussel
Mme ?????? Archambault - Yoliana Paré
1959
?????? Kerguen - ?????? Lacaze
Pierre Lamy - ?????? Kosellek
Paul Guiraud - ?????? Pizaro
1960
Robert Buchet - ????? Walter
Pierre Boutin - J????? Berges
1961
????? Orsini - ?????? De Maria
Lionel Raudet - Mme ????? Pare
Claudine Vanson - ?????? Kissel
1962
Roger de Lageneste - ????? Burglin
????? Cholet - ????? Blanchet
1963
????? Golderer - ?????? von Kothen
1970
Yannick Auxemery - ?????? Quinomant
Alex Vineis - ?????? Bianco
Corinne Koppenhague - ????? Cousin
Thanks in advance
Giorgio
Carles Bosch 02
28th February 2009, 21:16
Someone knows .....
1951
Jacques Péron - R????? Bertramnier
François Picard - ????? Farge
M????? Hache - ????? Crespin
Mme ?????? Hammersley - Mlle ?????? Hammersley
1952
Marc Gignoux - Mme ????? Gignoux
Jean Rédelé - ?????? Moser
Charles Plantivaux - ?????? Mazalon
Claire Pochon - ????? Trott - ?????? Boucher
1953
Michel Dubonnet - Mlle ????? Dubonnet
1954
Jean Estager - P????? Proto
Annie Bousquet - M????? C?????? de Baulieu
Bruno Martignoni (I) - T??????? Rabezzana
J????? Jauson - P?????? Bourgat
1956
René Cotton - J????? Leclère
Jack Renel - ?????? Bessey
1957
J?????? Jauson - Jo Schlesser
????? Amy - ?????? Fredmesh
?????? Maret - Jo Paturel
Annie Soisbault - ?????? Cancre
1958
"Fantomas" (Sergio Bettoja) (I) - ?????? Lancelotti (I)
René Trautmann - ????? Gros-Roussel
Mme ?????? Archambault - Yoliana Paré
1959
?????? Kerguen - ?????? Lacaze
Pierre Lamy - ?????? Kosellek
Paul Guiraud - ?????? Pizaro
1960
Robert Buchet - ????? Walter
Pierre Boutin - J????? Berges
1961
????? Orsini - ?????? De Maria
Lionel Raudet - Mme ????? Pare
Claudine Vanson - ?????? Kissel
1962
Roger de Lageneste - ????? Burglin
????? Cholet - ????? Blanchet
1963
????? Golderer - ?????? von Kothen
1970
Yannick Auxemery - ?????? Quinomant
Alex Vineis - ?????? Bianco
Corinne Koppenhague - ????? Cousin
Thanks in advance
Giorgio
1951
- Jean Hache / Marceau Crespin
- Alexandra & Geneviève Hammersley
1952
- Marc & Françoise Gignoux
- Claude Mazalon
- Madeleine? Pochon / Trott Boucher
1954
- Marie-Claire Beaulieu
- Jacques Jauson
1956
- 'Bessey', alias of Bernard Consten
1957
- 'Cancre', alias of Michèle de Thonelle d'Orgeix
1958
- Françoise Archambault / Germaine Parey Oliana
1959
- Jean Kerguen / Robert Lacaze
- Jean-Claude? Lamy
- Nicolas Pizaro
1960
- Hans-Joachim Walter
1961
- J. Orsini / J. de Maria
- Alexandra Kissel
1962
- Pierre Burglin
- André Chollet / Jean Blanchet
1963
- Rudi Golderer / Karl von Kothen
Carles.
Carles Bosch 02
28th February 2009, 21:29
Have you got the top 5 of these rallies?
Liegi-Sofia-Liegi 1962
Deutschland Rally (Baden Baden ???) 1962
Geneve Rally 1962
Thanks
21 Liège Sofia Liège
1, Eugen Böhringer & Hermann Eger, Mercedes-Benz 220 SEb
2, Ido Marang & Paul Coltelloni, Citroën DS 19
3, Jacques Patte & Freddy Rousselle, Volvo 122S B18 Amazon
4, Guy Verrier & Jacques Badoche, Citroën DS 19
5, Logan Morrison & Rupert Jones, Austin-Healey 3000
Rallye Deutschland / Baden-Baden
1, Pat Moss & Pauline Mayman, Morris Cooper
2, Eugen Böhringer & Peter Lang, Mercedes-Benz 220 SE
3, René Trautmann & Claudine Bouchet, Citroën ID 19
4, Hans-Joachim Walter & Ewald Stock, Porsche 356B Carrera 2 Coupé?
5, Rudolf Smoliner & Karl Auer, Citroën ID 19
31? Rallye Genève
1, Hans-Joachim Walter & Werner Lier, Porsche 356B Carrera 2 Coupé?
2, Erik Carlsson & Gunnar Häggbom?, Saab 96 GT 750?
3, Pat Moss & Pauline Mayman, Morris Cooper
4, Jean-Pierre Hanrioud & Claude Arbez, Renault Dauphine Gordini 1093?
5, Pierre Gelé & Hervé Laurent, Auto Union DKW Junior F11
Carles.
FAL
28th February 2009, 22:07
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Matthewrally87
1st March 2009, 10:31
You're the best, Carles!!!
Matthewrally87
1st March 2009, 10:33
Have you got the top 5 of these rallies?
Tulip Rally 1961
Acropolis Rally 1961
Swedish Rally 1961
Liegi-Sofia-Liegi 1961
Deutschland Rally 1961
Thanks...
Giorgio
1st March 2009, 13:46
Tank you, Carles!
Best regards
Giorgio
C64WDU
1st March 2009, 20:52
I know this is a statistics thread, but can anyone help with identifying the stickers on this RS Turbo rally car. It's Mark Lovell/ Peter Davis RAC 1985:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/GroupB/Ford/rstworksmystrystickers.jpg
Does anyone have any pictures of what they are supposed to look like? Cheers
Carles Bosch 02
2nd March 2009, 00:00
Have you got the top 5 of these rallies?
Tulip Rally 1961
Acropolis Rally 1961
Swedish Rally 1961
Liegi-Sofia-Liegi 1961
Deutschland Rally 1961
Thanks...
13 Tulpen Rallye
1, Geoff Mabbs / Lester Griffiths, Triumph Herald Coupé
2, Hans-Joachim Walter / Ewald Stock, Porsche 356 Carrera Coupé 1600 GS
3, Carl-Magnus & Rolf Skogh, Saab 96 GT 750
4, Eugen Böhringer / Hermann Socher, Mercedes-Benz 220 SE
5, Karl Schöttler / Jurgen Säckl, Alfa Romeo Giulietta ti
9 Acropolis Rally
1, Erik Carlsson / Valter Karlsson, Saab 96 GT 750
2, Gunnar Andersson / Carl Lohmander, Volvo PV 544 B18 Sport
3, Peter Riley / Tony Ambrose, Austin-Healey 3000
4, Peter Harper / Peter Procter, Sunbeam Rapier
5, Eugen Böhringer / Hermann Socher, Mercedes-Benz 220 SE
12 Svenska Rallyt till Midnattssolen
1, Carl-Magnus & Rolf Skogh, Saab 96 GT 750
2, Bertil Söderström / Rune Olsson, VW 1200
3, Arne Wernersson / Sven Jönsson, Saab 96
4, Erik Berger / Lars Andersson, Saab 96
5, Gunnar Andersson / Hans Lundin, Volvo PV 544
20 Liège Sofia Liège
1, Lucien Bianchi / Georges Harris, Citroën DS 19
2, Hans-Joachim Walter / Hans Wencher, Porsche 356B Carrera Coupé 1600
3, Bob Neyret / Jacques Terramorsi, Citroën ID 19
4, Eugen Böhringer / Rauno Aaltonen, Mercedes-Benz 220 SE
5, Roger de Lageneste / Pierre Burglin, Citroën DS 19
Internationale Deutschland-Rallye Wiesbaden
1, Hans-Joachim Walter / Hans Wencher, Porsche 356B Carrera Coupé 1600
2, Eugen Böhringer / Rauno Aaltonen, Mercedes-Benz 220 SE
3, Gunnar Andersson / Valter Karlsson, Volvo PV 544
4, Hans Hermann Klinken / Hermann Socher, VW 1200? Spezial
5, Gerhart Greil / Georg Kaufmann, Auto Union DKW Junior F11
Carles.
Matthewrally87
2nd March 2009, 11:17
Thank you so much Carles...
Matthewrally87
2nd March 2009, 11:19
Have you got the 4th and 5th classified of these rallies?
Tulip Rally 1960
Acropolis Rally 1960
Swedish Rally 1960
RAC 1960
Thanks so much...
Giorgio
2nd March 2009, 16:57
Part 1
Giorgio
2nd March 2009, 17:00
Part 2
Carles Bosch 02
3rd March 2009, 01:10
Have you got the 4th and 5th classified of these rallies?
Tulip Rally 1960
Acropolis Rally 1960
Swedish Rally 1960
RAC 1960
Thanks so much...
12 Tulpen Rallye
4, Hans Ingier & Niels Hagen, Volvo PV 544
5, Ad Bouwmeester & Willem Poll, Porsche 356B 1600 S?
8 Acropolis Rally
4, Peter Harper & Peter Procter, Sunbeam Rapier
5, Nikos Filinis & S. Mourtzopoulis, Sunbeam Rapier
11 Svenska Midnattssolen Rallyt
4, Gunnar Carlsson & Rune Asplund, Volvo PV 544
5, Hans Ingier & Thorbjørn Berntsen, Volvo PV 544
9 RAC British International Rally
4, P.J. Berry, Jock Sears & Willy Cave, Jaguar 3.8 MK 2
5, Johnny Wallwork & Harold Brookes, Volvo PV 544
Carles.
Matthewrally87
3rd March 2009, 09:49
Thank you so much Carles...
Matthewrally87
3rd March 2009, 09:56
Have you got these results?
Sestriere Rally 1959 (4th - 5th)
Tulip Rally 1959 (4th - 5th)
Acropolis Rally 1959 (4th)
Swedish Rally 1959 (4th - 5th)
1000 Lakes Rally 1959 (4th)
Liegi-Roma-Liegi 1959 (4th - 5th)
Viking Rally 1959 (4th)
Deutschland Rally 1959 (4th - 5th)
RAC Rally (5th)
Portugal Rally (top 5)
Thanks so much...
Carles Bosch 02
3rd March 2009, 23:52
Sestriere Rally 1959 (4th - 5th)
Tulip Rally 1959 (4th - 5th)
Acropolis Rally 1959 (4th)
Swedish Rally 1959 (4th - 5th)
1000 Lakes Rally 1959 (4th)
Liegi-Roma-Liegi 1959 (4th - 5th)
Viking Rally 1959 (4th)
Deutschland Rally 1959 (4th - 5th)
RAC Rally (5th)
Portugal Rally (top 5)
10 Rallye Sestriere
4, Canaparo & Marsoglio, Fiat 8V 106 Sport
5, Erwin Bauer & Ferrero?, Alfa Romeo Giulietta ti
11 Tulpen Rallye
4, Rob Gorris & Roelef Wiedouw, Porsche 356A 1600 S
5, Erik Carlsson & Karl-Erik Svensson, Saab 93B 750 GT
7 Acropolis Rally
4, Alkis Michos & C. Theodoracopoulo, Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider
10 Svenska Midnattssolen Rallyt
4, Rune Larsson & Brör Hultgren, VW 1200?
5, Gunnar Callbo & Sigurd Höglund?, Volvo PV 544
9 Jyväskylän Suurajot
4, Erik Carlsson & Mario Pavoni, Saab 93B 750 GT
18 Liège Rome Liège
4, Jean-Pierre Estager & Robert Dutoit, Porsche 356 Carrera Coupé 1600 GS
5, Guy & Willy Sander, Porsche 356A Speedster 1600 S
9 Rally Viiking
4, Aatos Wassman & Rainer Eklund, Skoda Octavia Super?
Rallye Deutschland Nürburgring-Wiesbaden
4, William Dodd & D.L. Delling, Volvo PV 444
5, Heinz Umbach & Karl Foitek, Alfa Romeo Giulietta ti
8 RAC British International Rally
5, 'Codger' Malkin & Graham Robson, Sunbeam Rapier
Rallye ACP Aveiro Estoril
1, José Luis Abreu Valente, Mercedes-Benz 300 SL
2, Álex Soler Roig, Porsche 356 Carrera Coupé 1600 GS
3, Henri Oreiller & Paul Coltelloni, Alfa Romeo Giulietta ti
4, Manuel & Augusto Palma, Porsche 356
5, 'Pinca', Porsche 356
Carles.
Matthewrally87
4th March 2009, 11:23
Thanks so much Carles
Matthewrally87
4th March 2009, 11:29
Have you got these result?
Monte-Carlo Rally 1958 (3rd)
Sestriere Rally 1958 (4th - 5th)
Acropolis Rally 1958 (2nd - 3rd)
Tulip Rally 1958 (1st)
Deutschland Rally 1958 (3rd - 4th - 5th)
Swedish Rally 1958 (2nd - 3rd - 5th)
Adriatic Rally 1958 (top 5)
Liegi-Roma-Liegi 1958 (2nd - 3rd - 5th)
Viking Rally 1958 (1st - 2nd - 3rd)
Thanks so much...
DIMI44
4th March 2009, 15:41
Have you got these result?
Acropolis Rally 1958 (2nd - 3rd)
2. Νο 25. J.PESMAZOGLOU / K. GALANIS Chevrolet V8
3. No 40. G. ANDERSSON / G.ELBERS Volvo 544
Matthewrally87
4th March 2009, 22:39
Thanks so much DIMI44
Carles Bosch 02
6th March 2009, 08:11
Monte-Carlo Rally 1958 (3rd)
3, Leif Vold-Johansen & Finn Huseby Kopperud, Auto Union 1000 S
Sestriere Rally 1958 (4th - 5th)
4, Anton Giorgio Stardero & Bonino, Alfa Romeo
5, Armando Zampiero & Bongiasca, Porsche 356
Tulip Rally 1958 (1st)
1, Günther Kolwes & Ruth Lautmann, Volvo PV 444
Deutschland Rally 1958 (3rd - 4th - 5th)
3, Gunnar Andersson & Michael Videll, Volvo PV 444
4, Hans-Joachim Walter & Paul Ernst Strähle, Porsche 356 Carrera 1500 GS
5, Heinz Meier & Sven von Schröter, Auto Union 1000 S
Swedish Rally 1958 (2nd - 3rd - 5th)
2, Berndt Jansson & Arne Mars, VW 1200?
3, Harry Bengtsson & Ake Righard, Porsche 356A 1600 S?
5, Valter & Henry Karlsson, DKW F91 3=6 Sonderklasse
Adriatic Rally 1958 (top 5)
1, Gunnar Andersson & Nils-Fredrik Grondal, Volvo PV 444
2, Wolfgang Levy & Kaszynski, DKW F91 3=6 Sonderklasse
3, Alex & Kitty von Falkenhausen, BMW
4, Miliovoje Vukovic & Picek, DKW
5, Max Riess & Hans Wencher, Alfa Romeo
Liegi-Roma-Liegi 1958 (2nd - 3rd - 5th)
2, Paul Ernst Strähle & Robert Buchet, Porsche 356 Carrera Coupé 1500 GS
3, Robert Reip & Velge, Porsche 356 Carrera 1500 GS
5, Maurice Gatsonides & Rob Gorris, Triumph TR3A
Viking Rally 1958 (1st - 2nd - 3rd)
1, Arne Ingier & Hakon Floysvik, Volvo PV 444
2, Arve Andersen & Edward Gjolberg, Volvo PV 444
3, Harry Bengtsson & Ake Righard, VW 1200?
Carles.
Matthewrally87
6th March 2009, 11:19
Thank you so much, Carles
Matthewrally87
6th March 2009, 11:23
Have you got these results?
Sestriere Rally 1957 (4th - 5th)
Acropolis Rally 1957 (3rd - 4th - 5th)
Tulip Rally 1957 (4th)
Geneve Rally 1957 (3rd - 5th)
Swedish Rally 1957 (4th - 5th)
Adriatic Rally 1957 (2nd - 3rd - 4th - 5th)
Liegi-Roma-Liegi 1957 (4th - 5th)
Thanks so much...
Carles Bosch 02
6th March 2009, 20:45
Sestriere Rally 1957 (4th - 5th)
4, Anton Giorgio Stardero & 'Mark', Alfa Romeo
5, Giulio Cabianca & Sergio Oreffice, Alfa Romeo
Acropolis Rally 1957 (3rd - 4th - 5th)
3, Nikos Filinis, DKW F91 3=6 Sonderklasse
4, ???
5, ???
Tulip Rally 1957 (4th)
4, Martin & Gulli Carstedt, Ford Fairlane 500
Geneve Rally 1957 (3rd - 5th)
3, Patrick Lier & Wirz, Fiat Abarth
5, Carlo Bornand & Michelle Vouga, Alfa Romeo
Swedish Rally 1957 (4th - 5th)
4, Nils Carlsson & Harry Hagman, Volvo PV 444
5, Valter & Henry Karlsson, DKW F91 3=6 Sonderklasse
Adriatic Rally 1957 (2nd - 3rd - 4th - 5th)
2, ???
3, ???
4, ???
5, ???
Liegi-Roma-Liegi 1957 (4th - 5th)
4, Roger de Lageneste & Michel Nicol, Peugeot 203
5, Maurice Gatsonides & Dries Jetten, Triumph TR3?
Carles.
dario
6th March 2009, 21:53
Acropolis Rally 1957 (3rd - 4th - 5th)
3, Nikos Filinis,& N. Petropoulos DKW F91 3=6 Sonderklasse
4, Walter Karlsson & John Kvarnstrom DKW F91
5, P. Papadopulos & N. Politis MG-A
Adriatic Rally 1957 (2nd - 3rd - 4th - 5th)
1, Ruprecht Hoepfen & . Van Loesch Saab 93
2, H. Kaufmann & Rappolt DKW F91
3, L. Marini & L. Tavola Alfa Romeo Giulietta
4, S. Bettoja & x Alfa Romeo Giulietta
5, Arnulf Pilhatsch & Richter BMW 502
6. Wolfgang Levy & Horst Fiat 1100
7, Bornand & M. Vouga Alfa Romeo Giulietta
8, Paul Guiraud & Britvic Peugeot 403
9, Milivoja Vukovic & Picek DKW F 91
10. Alex 6 Kitty Falkenhausen BMW 507
Best Regards
Dario
Matthewrally87
6th March 2009, 22:30
Thanks so much, Carles and Dario...
Matthewrally87
6th March 2009, 23:54
Have you got these results?
Sestriere Rally 1956 (2nd - 3rd - 4th)
Acropolis Rally 1956 (3rd - 4th)
Tulip Rally 1956 (4th - 5th)
Geneve Rally 1956 (2nd - 3rd - 4th - 5th)
Swedish Rally 1956 (2nd - 3rd - 4th - 5th)
Coupes des Alpes - Alpine Rally 1956 (4th - 5th)
Liegi-Roma-Liegi 1956 (2nd - 3rd - 4th - 5th)
Adriatic Rally 1956 (2nd - 3rd - 4th - 5th)
Iberia Rally 1956 (top 5)
Thanks so, so, so much...
Carles Bosch 02
7th March 2009, 18:44
Sestriere Rally 1956 (2nd - 3rd - 4th)
2, Wolfgang Gutbrod / Heinz Schwind, BMW 502
3, Luigi Taramazzo / Giovanni? Gerino, Alfa Romeo 1900 ti
4, Paul Ernst Strähle / Hans Wencher, Porsche 356A 1300 S?
Acropolis Rally 1956 (3rd - 4th)
3, René Fabre / Mme. M.L. Redon, Panhard X86
4, Johnny Pesmazoglou / K. Galanis, Chevrolet V8
Tulip Rally 1956 (4th - 5th)
4, D. O'Mara Taylor / Lew Tracey, Standard Eight
5, I.M. Sutherland / Th. Band, Standard Eight
Geneve Rally 1956 (2nd - 3rd - 4th - 5th)
2, Beyer / Perrot, Porsche 356 Carrera 1500 GS
3, Bruno Martignoni / Vanini, Alfa Romeo 1900 ti
4, Miss Ruth Lautmann / Miss R. Utermöhl, Ford Taunus 15 M
5, Georges Houel / Bertramnier, Alfa Romeo 1900 C Super Sprint Zagato
Swedish Rally 1956 (2nd - 3rd - 4th - 5th)
2, Berndt Jansson / Torsten Grennberg, VW 1200?
3, Carl-Magnus & Rolf Skogh, Saab 93
4, Erik Carlsson / Sten Helm, Saab 93
5, Harald Kronegard / Gustav Palmgren, Saab 93
Coupes des Alpes - Alpine Rally 1956 (4th - 5th)
4, André Blanchard / Guy Jouanneaux, Denzel 1300
5, Jean-Pierre Estager / Jean Pebrel, Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta Pininfarina
Liegi-Roma-Liegi 1956 (2nd - 3rd - 4th - 5th)
2, Claude Storez / Robert Buchet, Porsche 356 Carrera Coupé 1500 GS
3, Olivier Gendevien / Pierre Stasse, Ferrari 250 GT Europa Berlinetta
4, René Cotton / J. Leclère, Mercedes-Benz 300 SL
5, Robert Leidgens / Freddy Rousselle, Triumph TR3
Adriatic Rally 1956 (2nd - 3rd - 4th - 5th)
2, Siegfried Eikelmann / Nedeljko Karleusa, DKW
3, Milivoje Vukovic / Pavle Protic, DKW
4, Walter Schock / Rolf Moll, Mercedes-Benz 300 SL
5, Leopold Landsmann / Frantisek Kanles, Skoda
Iberia Rally 1956 (top 5)
1, Fernando Stock, Mercedes-Benz 300 SL
2, Javier Sanglas, Alfa Romeo Giulietta sprint veloce
3, José Luis Abreu Valente, Porsche 356
4, Esteban Sala, Fiat
5, Gerardo de Andrés, Mercedes-Benz
Carles.
Matthewrally87
7th March 2009, 19:02
Thank you Carles...
dario
7th March 2009, 19:10
Iberia Rally 1956 (top 5)
1, Fernando Stock, Mercedes-Benz 300 SL
2, Javier Sanglas, Alfa Romeo Giulietta sprint veloce
3, José Luis Abreu Valente, Porsche 356
4, Esteban Sala, Fiat
5, Gerardo de Andrés, Mercedes-Benz
Excuse me Carles , do you have additional informations about this rally ( km , withdraw , other arrived ecc... ) ?
Thanks in advance
Best regards
Dario
Matthewrally87
7th March 2009, 20:35
Have you got these results?
Sestriere Rally 1955 (4th - 5th)
Tulip Rally 1955 (3rd - 4th)
Deutschland Rally 1955 (3rd - 5th)
Swedish Rally 1955 (top 5)
Adriatic Rally 1955 (2nd - 3rd - 4th - 5th)
Liegi-Roma-Liegi 1955 (top 5)
Viking Rally 1955 (5th)
Thanks so much
Carles Bosch 02
7th March 2009, 23:44
Iberia Rally 1956 (top 5)
1, Fernando Stock, Mercedes-Benz 300 SL
2, Javier Sanglas, Alfa Romeo Giulietta sprint veloce
3, José Luis Abreu Valente, Porsche 356
4, Esteban Sala, Fiat
5, Gerardo de Andrés, Mercedes-Benz
Excuse me Carles , do you have additional informations about this rally ( km , withdraw , other arrived ecc... ) ?
Thanks in advance
Best regards
Dario
The 1st Rali Ibérico was held in November (1st-4th). There were six starting points (Barcelona, Lisboa, Madrid, Porto, San Sebastián & Sevilla), whith concentration runs to Madrid. Then, the common route from Madrid to Lisboa, including a few special tests. There were 80 starters out of the 113 entries.
The rest of the top-10, were:
6, Paul Ernst Strähle, Porsche 356
7, Carlos Faustino, Panhard
8, Francisco Pereira, Lancia
9, Carlos Mach, Mercedes-Benz
10, Joao Azevedo, Triumph
Other finishers:
20, Maurice Gatsonides, Triumph TR3
24, Walter Schock & Rolf Moll, Mercedes-Benz 300 SL
33, Pablo Menzel, Pegaso Z-102 Berlinetta Touring
DNF:
- Gerardo Romero Requejo, Pegaso Z-102 Berlinetta Touring
Carles.
Carles Bosch 02
8th March 2009, 00:12
Sestriere Rally 1955 (4th - 5th)
4, Luigi Taramazzo / Genino Gerini, Alfa Romeo 1900 ti
5, Giuseppe Musso / Romano Basili, Alfa Romeo 1900 ti
Tulip Rally 1955 (3rd - 4th)
3, Werner Engel / Gilbert Armbrecht, Mercedes-Benz 220 A
4, Maurice Gatsonides / T. Saint-John Foster, Standard Ten
Deutschland Rally 1955 (3rd - 5th)
3, Paul Ernst Strähle / Hans Wencher, Porsche 356 1300 S
5, Eitel Eddelbüttel / Manfred Elmenhorst, Mercedes-Benz 220? Porsche 356?
Swedish Rally 1955 (top 5)
1, Allan Borgefors / Ake Gustavsson, Porsche 356 1500 S
2, Grus-Olle Persson / Stig Pettersson, Porsche 356 1500 S
3, Stig Gruen / Sven Jönsson, Peugeot 403
4, Gunnar Källström / Boo Guterstam, Porsche 356 1500 S
5, Heinz Meier / Hermann Luba, DKW F91 3=6 Sonderklasse
Adriatic Rally 1955 (2nd - 3rd - 4th - 5th)
2, Max Nathan / Wilhelm Glöckler, Porsche 356 1300 S
3, Georg Meier / Hans Wencher, BMW 502
4, Edmund Graf von Westerholt, Porsche 356 1300 S?
5, Walter Schlüter / Siegfried Eikelmann, DKW F91 3=6 Sonderklasse
Liegi-Roma-Liegi 1955 (top 5)
1, Olivier Gendebien / Pierre Stasse, Mercedes-Benz 300 SL
2, René Cotton / Jean Louis Lemerle, Salmson 2300 Sport
3, Johnny Claes / Lucien Bianchi, Lancia Aurelia B20 Gran Turismo Coupé 2500
4, Werner Engel / Heinz Straub, Mercedes-Benz 300 SL
5, Ken Richardson / Christopher Heathcote, Triumph TR2
Viking Rally 1955 (5th)
5, Ivar Andersson / Lennart Simonsson, Peugeot 403
Carles.
dario
8th March 2009, 07:24
[quote="Carles Bosch 02"]The 1st Rali Ibérico was held in November (1st-4th). There were six starting points (Barcelona, Lisboa, Madrid, Porto, San Sebastián & Sevilla), whith concentration runs to Madrid. Then, the common route from Madrid to Lisboa, including a few special tests. There were 80 starters out of the 113 entries.
The rest of the top-10, were:
6, Paul Ernst Strähle, Porsche 356
7, Carlos Faustino, Panhard
8, Francisco Pereira, Lancia
9, Carlos Mach, Mercedes-Benz
10, Joao Azevedo, Triumph
Other finishers:
20, Maurice Gatsonides, Triumph TR3
24, Walter Schock & Rolf Moll, Mercedes-Benz 300 SL
33, Pablo Menzel, Pegaso Z-102 Berlinetta Touring
DNF:
- Gerardo Romero Requejo, Pegaso Z-102 Berlinetta Touring
Thanks very much , Carles
best regards
Dario
dario
8th March 2009, 07:42
Deutschland Rally 1955 (3rd - 5th)
5, Eitel Eddelbüttel / Manfred Elmenhorst, Mercedes-Benz 220
Viking Rally 1955 (5th)
5, Ivar Andersson / Lennart Simonsson, Peugeot 403
About Viking i have this : http://www.bilhistorie.no/index.php?name=/Bilsport/Bilsport_1955.html
Best regards
Dario
Matthewrally87
8th March 2009, 10:24
Thanks so much Carles and Dario...
Matthewrally87
8th March 2009, 11:58
Have you got these results?
RAC Rally 1954 (4th - 5th)
Tulip Rally 1954 (top 5)
Swedish Rally 1954 (3rd - 4th)
Deutschland-Wiesbaden Rally 1954 (top 5)
Liegi-Roma-Liegi 1954 (top 5)
Viking Rally 1954 (4th)
Geneve Rally 1954 (4th - 5th)
Thanks so so so much...
Carles Bosch 02
8th March 2009, 12:53
RAC Rally 1954 (4th - 5th)
4, Peter Harper / David Humphrey, Sunbeam-Talbot 90
5, Bill Bleakley / P. Glaister, Triumph TR2
Tulip Rally 1954 (top 5)
1, Olivier Gendebien / Pierre Stasse, Alfa Romeo 1900 ti
2, Werner Engel / Gilbert Armbrecht, Porsche 356
3, Gustav Menz / Hubert Brandt, DKW F91 3=6 Sonderklasse
4, Johnny Boardman / J.A. Duckworth / J.W. Withworth, Jaguar Mark VII
5, Jan Martens / B.H. Eerligh, Fiat 1100 TV
Swedish Rally 1954 (3rd - 4th)
3, Ivar Andersson / Björn Hansson, Alfa Romeo
4, Jo Bonnier / Bo Boësen, Alfa Romeo
Deutschland-Wiesbaden Rally 1954 (top 5)
1, Gustav Menz / Walter Schlüter, DKW F91 3=6 Sonderklasse
2, Ludwig Kraus / Heinz Schwind, BMW 501
3, Hans Wencher / Erwin Behringer, BMW 501
4, Heinz Meier / Heinz Schellhaas, DKW F91 3=6 Sonderklasse
5, Hubert Brandt / Hermann Luba, DKW F91 3=6 Sonderklasse
Liegi-Roma-Liegi 1954 (top 5)
1, Helmut Polensky / Herbert Linge, Porsche 356 Coupé 1500 S
2, Olivier Gendebien / Charles Fraikin, Lancia Aurelia B20 GT Coupé 2500
3, Claude Storez / Jack Chanal, Porsche 356 Coupé 1500 S
4, Georges Houel / G. Blaise, Alfa Romeo 1900 ti
5, René Cotton / Jean Louis Lemerle, Salmson 2300 Sport
Viking Rally 1954 (4th)
4, Lars Askersrud / Arne Ingier, VW 1200?
Geneve Rally 1954 (4th - 5th)
4, Deroux / Gouteyron, Alfa Romeo
5, Martin / Julio Quinlin, Salmson 2300 Sport
Carles.
Matthewrally87
8th March 2009, 14:53
Thanks so so so so much, Carles...
Matthewrally87
8th March 2009, 14:55
Thanks so so much at all of you which had to me all these information... Thank you so much...
Matthewrally87
8th March 2009, 14:57
Have you got the calendar of the European Rally Championship 1970?
Thanks...
Giorgio
12th March 2009, 14:57
Someone knows.....?
1932
René Carrière (Alfa Romeo ???)
????? Dupré (Chevrolet ???)
????? Laurent (?????)
Albert Rousset (Renault ????)
Mlle ????? Sajous (Mathis)
1933
????? Guérin (Panhard ???)
1934
????? Tasso (Hotchkiss)
????? Péguret (Ford)
Charles Roch (Ford ????)
????? Reybert (Renault ???)
1936
G????? Pfister (Citroen ???)
1938
????? Mesure (Delahaye)
????? Reybert (Renault ??)
????? Perrand (Fiat 8cv)
1939
????? Lambrechts (Lancia Aprilia)
1946
????? Bléin (Hotchkiss)
1948
George Murray-Frame - L?????? J????? Onslow Bartlett (Sunbeam Talbot 90)
1950
G????? Kenk - Harry Zweifel (MG)
1951
Godfrey Imhof - R????? W????? Robertson (Cadillac Allard J2)
1952
Louis Picon - ?????? Turquetil (Renault ??)
1953
Rudolph Sauerwein - O????? Castell (Porsche 356 1500)
Hans-Leo von Hoesch - Mme ?????? von Hoesch (Porsche 1500)
1954
Bill Burton - ????? Burke (Aston Martin DB2)
Roger Rauch - ?????? Bousson (Salmson 2300)
1956
Chuck Waine - D????? Kripplen (Porsche Carrera 1500)
P????? David - J?????? Metin (Peugeot 205 Coupé)
Thanks for any help
Giorgio
Fred Gallagher
12th March 2009, 16:38
Someone knows.....?
1953
Rudolph Sauerwein - O????? Castell (Porsche 356 1500)
Hans-Leo von Hoesch - Mme ?????? von Hoesch (Porsche 1500)
Thanks for any help
Giorgio
My source (Autocourse) says "G.Castell" and "Bossanyi" rather than Madame von Hoesch.
Fred
RiN
13th March 2009, 13:53
Originally Posted by Giorgio
Someone knows.....?
1953
Rudolph Sauerwein - O????? Castell (Porsche 356 1500)
Hans-Leo von Hoesch - Mme ?????? von Hoesch (Porsche 1500)
Thanks for any help
Giorgio
My source (Autocourse) says "G.Castell" and "Bossanyi" rather than Madame von Hoesch.
Fred
Martin Pfundner's book 'Die Alpenfahrt 1910-1973' has Max Nathan as Sauerwein's co-driver. I've seen other sources too with the same information.
Who was O or G Castell then?
There were one Otto Gastell, an Argentine-born German journalist who co-drove with Hans Joachim Walter at the 1963 Rallye Wiesbaden.
Maybe he intended to do an 'inside' report from the Alps in '53, but had to vacate the seat for some reason.
There's a lot of last minute co-driver swapping in the '50's and '60's. And the organisers did not always pick up on it.
At least they've made a lot of work for people like myself who find it stimulating to make research into it.
And they're partially responsible for my grey hair colour...........
Madame von Hoesch = Bossanyi von Hoesch
Tom
Giorgio
14th March 2009, 09:38
Thank you Fred and RiN!
Best regards
Giorgio
Carles Bosch 02
15th March 2009, 09:54
1952
Louis Picon - Roland Turquetil (Renault 4CV)
Carles.
Carles Bosch 02
15th March 2009, 09:57
1956
Pierre David - J?????? Metin (Peugeot 205 Coupé)
Carles.
Giorgio
15th March 2009, 15:06
Thank you, Carles!
Regards
Giorgio
Fred Gallagher
15th March 2009, 16:45
On the 1956 CdA entry list #232 was Rickert and Kripplen in a 1300cc Porsche.
Does anyone know why Chuck Waine drove and the car was 1500?
And since it was now in the next class was the number 3xx?
Fred
Matthewrally87
15th March 2009, 18:09
Can someone help me?
I research the calendar of the European Rally Chamionship 1970.
Thanks so much...
Giorgio
15th March 2009, 19:24
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feresc13
27th March 2009, 10:45
After looking in several websites and books I'd like to know if Rally Portugal in 1974 edition was also punctuable for the European Rally Championship.
Thank you very much.
elvis
28th March 2009, 10:59
hi everybody ,
i would like to know if somebody could tell me final position for french rally championship from season 1980 to 1988 include ? (driver , car , points).
thanks a lot for your precious help.
elvis
28th March 2009, 11:03
Can someone help me?
I research the calendar of the European Rally Chamionship 1970.
Thanks so much...
it's look to be this one :
13/03 Lyon-Charbonnières
28/03 Circuit of Ireland
03/04 Isola d’Elba
20/04 DDR Rally
03/05 Tulip Rally
21/05 Wiesbaden Rally
30/05 Rallye de Lorrainet
06/06 Scottish Rally
18/06 Rallye de Genève
03/07 Vltava Rally
16/07 Polsky Rally
29/07 Donau Rally
21/08 1000 Lakes
28/08 San Martino di Castrozza
16/09 Tour de France
01/10 Munich-Vien-Budapest
02/10 Rally TAP
22/10 Rally de España
07/11 Tour de Corse
20/11 Tour de Belgique
somebody could confirm ?
januszsz
28th March 2009, 14:07
it's look to be this one :
13/03 Lyon-Charbonnières
28/03 Circuit of Ireland
03/04 Isola d’Elba
20/04 DDR Rally
03/05 Tulip Rally
21/05 Wiesbaden Rally
30/05 Rallye de Lorrainet
06/06 Scottish Rally
18/06 Rallye de Genève
03/07 Vltava Rally
16/07 Polsky Rally
29/07 Donau Rally
21/08 1000 Lakes
28/08 San Martino di Castrozza
16/09 Tour de France
01/10 Munich-Vien-Budapest
02/10 Rally TAP
22/10 Rally de España
07/11 Tour de Corse
20/11 Tour de Belgique
somebody could confirm ?
13-15/03 Lyon-Charbonnières
18-21/03 DDR Pneumant Rally
26-30/03 Circuit of Ireland
03-04/04 Isola d’Elba
03-09/05 Tulip Rally
21-24/05 Wiesbaden Rally
21-24/05 Rallye de Lorraine
28-30/05 Rally Bodensee - Neusiedelersee
06-12/06 Scottish Rally
18-21/06 Rallye de Genève
03-05/07 Vltava Rally
16-19/07 Polski Rally
29/07-01/08 Donau Rally
21-23/08 1000 Lakes
28-30/08 San Martino di Castrozza
19-25/09 Tour de France Automobile
01-03/10 Munich-Vien-Budapest
02-05/10 Rally TAP
16-18/10 Rallye der 1000 Minuten
22-24/10 RACE Rallye de España
07-8/11 Tour de Corse Automobile
20-22/11 Tour de Belgique
regards
Janusz
januszsz
28th March 2009, 14:10
After looking in several websites and books I'd like to know if Rally Portugal in 1974 edition was also punctuable for the European Rally Championship.
Thank you very much.
I don't think so. Even there wasn't any rally held in Portugal to be a part of ERC 1974.
Regards
Janusz
Carles Bosch 02
28th March 2009, 18:54
13-15/03 Lyon-Charbonnières
18-21/03 DDR Pneumant Rally
26-30/03 Circuit of Ireland
03-04/04 Isola d’Elba
03-09/05 Tulip Rally
21-24/05 Wiesbaden Rally
21-24/05 Rallye de Lorraine
28-30/05 Rally Bodensee - Neusiedelersee
06-12/06 Scottish Rally
18-21/06 Rallye de Genève
03-05/07 Vltava Rally
16-19/07 Polski Rally
29/07-01/08 Donau Rally
21-23/08 1000 Lakes
28-30/08 San Martino di Castrozza
19-25/09 Tour de France Automobile
01-03/10 Munich-Vien-Budapest
02-05/10 Rally TAP
16-18/10 Rallye der 1000 Minuten
22-24/10 RACE Rallye de España
07-8/11 Tour de Corse Automobile
20-22/11 Tour de Belgique
regards
Janusz
As far as I know, the Tour de France didn't count finally for the '70 ERC for Drivers. 'Though I don't know for sure the reason, maybe was for accepting Group 6 cars like the MS650 Matras...
Carles.
januszsz
29th March 2009, 14:29
I am looking for Tulpenrallye results:
1974 4th-10th
1976 4th-10th plus who was co-driving 2nd o/a Maurizio Verini
Also needed first names from Tulip 1973:
M..... van Grieken / R... Wiedenhoff
....... Niemeijer / ...... Hoogkamer
....... Dreissen / ....... Haaanen
Who had starting number 12 in 1973?
And finally to all those rallies number of starters and finishers.
Thank you in advance.
Janusz
Giorgio
29th March 2009, 16:18
I am looking for Tulpenrallye results:
1976 4th-10th plus who was co-driving 2nd o/a Maurizio Verini
Thank you in advance.
Janusz
2. Maurizio Verini (I) - "Ninni" (Domenico) Russo (I) (Fiat 131 Abarth gr 4)
Regards
Giorgio
Giorgio
29th March 2009, 16:20
I am looking for Tulpenrallye results:
Also needed first names from Tulip 1973:
M..... van Grieken / R... Wiedenhoff
Thank you in advance.
Janusz
Kees van Grieken - Rob Wiedenhoff (BMW 2002 TI)
Regards
Giorgio
Loris A+
29th March 2009, 17:39
Have you got these results ?
1950 Sestriere 21- 22 January
Started 132 Arrived ? 2910 km
1° Emilio Christillin / Sandro Fiorio Lancia Aurelia GT
2° Emanuele Nasi / ? ? Fiat 1500 E
3° Emanuele Sartorio / ? ? Fiat 500 C
4° ? Ymot / ? ? Panhard Dyna
5° ? Locatelli / ? ? Studebacker
6° Ken Wharton / JJ. Langelaan Ford Pilot V8
7° ? ?
8° ? ?
9° ? ?
10° ? ?
1951 Sestriere date ???
Started ? Arrived ? Km ?]
1 Villoresi – Ascari Aurelia
2 Brignone – Rabezzana Fiat 1400 Cabriolet
3 Piodi – Frajria // //
4 ????
5 ????
6 ????
7 ????
8 ????
9 ????
10 ???
1952 Sestriere ? - ? February
Started ? Arrived ? Km ?
1° Gino Valenzano / Mario Poltronieri Lancia Aurelia B20
2° H. von Der Muhle/ ? Guilleaume Porsche 356 Coupè
3° Helmuth Polensky / Graf von Berkleim Porsche 356 Coupè
4° ? Bertone / ? Reynaldi Lancia Aurelia
5° R. Priodi / ?. Frajria Lancia Aurelia
6° ?. Fusar Poli / ?. Zagato Lancia Aurelia
7° Ferdinando Gatta / ? . Orlandi Fiat 1400
8° ? ? / ? ? ?
9° ? ? / ? ? ?
10° ?? / ?? ?
SESTRIERE ??/??/1954
Started ? Arrived ? Km ?
1). Valenzano/Sposetti, car ?????
2). Brignone/Meregalli, car ?????
3). Giuseppe Marazana/Carlotti, car ????
4). Paul Guiraud/H.A. Beau, car ????
5). Finacci/Munaron, car ????
6). Heinrich/Theden, car ?????
7).Werner Engel/G. Ambrecht – Porsche 356,
8). Buffa/Carabelli – Lancia appia,
9). Giletti/Cinti – Lancia Aurelia,
10). Crotti/Sassi – Lancia Appia.
Thanks in advance
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