S2000 summary

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Andreas Waldherr who use to drive a VW Golf IV Kit car in Austrian Champ. tested the Polo S2000 from René Georges.

According to René Gergoes site, he was interested in compare the Kit car with the S2000.

http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/image.asp?id=147559&width=660&height=440&text=auto&quality=80

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Perico will return to CIR with a Peugeot 207 S2000 from Friulmotor!!

He will run with Pirelli Tyres.

[Tom206wrc]

Renato Travaglia in a Grande Punto S2000 at Barum Rally :eek:

[HaCo]

Sola talking about a Honda Super 2000:

I hope we fulfill our vision to develop Honda S2000. I would like to reach the best position possible in IRC series next year and the S2000 vehicle is one of the possible ways
http://www.barum.rally.cz/2007/press_detail.php?cont=52&sec=4&lng=en

It seems logic to me and it would be awesome if it's true!

[Grant_RSA]

Info i recieved that the Auris will be Homologated by Toyota SA before the end of the year!

[Tom206wrc]

Five S2000s on next round of italian rallies championship next week(rally del Friuli Alpi Orientali) !!!! :D

Basso(Fiat Grande Punto)
Scandola(Fiat Grande Punto)
Rossetti(207)
Perico(207)
Bertolotti(207)

;)

[Tom206wrc]

Alex Perico's new livery !!!! :D

http://www.desmofoto.com/ALPI/perico4.jpg

http://www.desmofoto.com/ALPI/perico5.jpg

[João Plácido]

MG S2000 is a real thing right now!

What do you think about the performance of the car?

I think that IRC will be fantastic next year!!! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKXYF4BuQVE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ4f0XF66b0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj7BwWUUlSg

[HaCo]

MG S2000 is a real thing right now!

What do you think about the performance of the car?

I think that IRC will be fantastic next year!!! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKXYF4BuQVE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ4f0XF66b0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj7BwWUUlSg

GREAT!!! Thanks for the videos!!! :)

I've put them in one playlist, so you can watch then 3 in a row :D :D
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=19179969E220E281

[kubiczech]

Sola talking about a Honda Super 2000:

http://www.barum.rally.cz/2007/press_detail.php?cont=52&sec=4&lng=en

It seems logic to me and it would be awesome if it's true!


Funny thing is that Honda sells a S2000 road car for several years. They are only factory that could make S2000 car in S2000 category. They would have to put two seats in the trunk (S2000 must have 4 seats, i think), but on the hot summer rallys it would be refreshing ride without roof :-)))))

[bf1_IRL]

Info i recieved that the Auris will be Homologated by Toyota SA before the end of the year!

Good stuff :) hopefully RED will have one built for WRGB or earlier.. :D

[Tom206wrc]

IRC leader Enrique Garcia-Ojeda and Dani Sola(driving a Honda Civic R3 in IRC too)will both run the Rally Principe De Asturias in Spain next week, and both in 207 S2000 :D :D

More infos on http://www.rallyeprincipe.com

Strange that Honda would let Dani Sola drive a Peugeot though... :confused:

[HaCo]

More infos on http://www.rallyeprincipe.com

Strange that Honda would let Dani Sola drive a Peugeot though... :confused:

Maybe he needs to spy on some things... :D

[Tom206wrc]

Their should be at least three S2000s at the Mont-Blanc rally(next event of french tarmac rallies championship) next week :D

I'll create a thread for this event when I get the complete entrylist(this should be tomorrow, normally) ;)

There should be at least anyway local driver Philippe Mermet in the AutomecaSport Fiat Grande Punto and Brice Tirabassi in the BSA team 207... :)

[Tom206wrc]

Five S2000s on next event of polish championship Rajd Nikon next week :D

Bouffier(207)
Solowow(Grande Punto)
Czopik(Grande Punto)
Guzek(Grande Punto)
Lubiak(Grande Punto)

[Filip]

I just hope Guzek won't repeat his mistake from last rally.

[Raven]

I'm not so sure about that, Guzek probably is one of those "I have money and probably speed" guys :)

[Jarek Z]

Yes, Guzek's "talent" is enormous ;)

[Jarek Z]

Last weekend there was another round of Spanish championship - RALLYE DE FERROL-HANKOOK. Surprisingly the rally was won by Sergio Vallejo and his Porsche! The leader of the championship, Miguel Fuster, had engine breakdown in his Punto S2000. Rene George's Polo driven by Alberto Hevia broke down too (of course).

Results:
1. Sergio Vallejo/Diego Vallejo (E) Porsche 911 GT3 1:43.26,9 (1. GT)
2. Victor Senra/David Vazquez (E) Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +47,4
3. Josep Basols/Alex Haro (E) Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +1.57,3
4. Mex Machado/Antonio da Silva (E) Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +2.52,4
5. Yeray Lemes/Rogelio Penate (E) Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +3.29,2
6. Joan Vinyes/Jordi Mercader (E) Citroen C2 S1600 +3.50,2 (1. A6)
7. Alvaro Muniz/Cesar Blanco (E) Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +4.10,7
8. Carlos Marquez/Aintzane Goni (E) Fiat Punto S1600 +5.32,6 (2. A6)
9. Sergio Perez/Pablo Secades (E) Renault Clio S1600 +5.37,1 (3. A6)
10. Pedro Burgo/Marcos Burgo (E) Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +6.47,2

[Tom206wrc]

Yes, it was a failure from the S2000s :(

[GTA]

why you ( JAREK Z ) have to write that the Polo broke down ( of course ?? ), Hevia is in Spain at least on the same speed as the Punto ( he win in a clear fight 2 times and was 2 times second) and for now the Fiat Punto retired more in spain because of technical problems then the Polo ! the reason he retired was a problem that VW never had before on the car and is being investigated.... what is it with Polish people and VW... how many times Czopik made a mistake with the car and go off road or loose time !! he never speak about that.. only complain about the car and the team, never said.. sorry was my fault.. i made a mistake...example: he went of the road in the Polski rally and loose 17 minutes, break the gearbox when he try to get back on the road, and then he is complaining that the mechanics took 2 minutes longer to change all transmissions !! come on guy's... .. he lost the rally.. not VW... or Rene georges Team.. you will not hear Loix or Hevia say that.. they are Proffessionals. and if you do not know the facts of the story then do not make comments please. also do you hear Mr Solowow say in the press that he is having a **** season with the Procar Fiat..NO... or Mr Lubiak..Procar Fiat...NO... all Profi's they keep their remarks inside their teams..

[HaCo]

GTA,
Have you read Autonews too? I've read the interview with Rene Georges too, it's good to hear the other side of the story too. Like said before, it's up to Czopick to choose a team, but Rene Georges maybe lost contracts because of him and that is not nice at all.
What is good news is that Rene Georges has sold the first Polo to an Austrian guy, named Andreas Waldherr, maybe a Polo will drive in Portugal and maybe also in Finland.
Fact is that in Belgium, a litle team developed an asfalt package with a lot of potential, I hope next year we will see the Polo a lot too...

[GTA]

i am the team coordinator for Rene Georges Rallysport... :) so i know all... ;) and the deal with Waldherr is not 100% closed... but there are many options for 2008 so do not worry, the VW Polo S 2000 will be seen in many events next year.

[A.F.F.]

i am the team coordinator for Rene Georges Rallysport... :) so i know all... ;) and the deal with Waldherr is not 100% closed... but there are many options for 2008 so do not worry, the VW Polo S 2000 will be seen in many events next year.


Hopefully. It's such a cool looking car :)

[Jarek Z]

To GTA and HaCo,

I'm sorry about the "of course" comment in my post about the Spanish rally. I agree that it may sound a little harsh. But on the other hand, the forum is for sharing opinions and news about rallying in Europe. I wrote that the Polo broke down, because it did break down. Let's not hide the facts.

As far as Czopik is concerned, I'm not his fan or anything, but in my opinion you shouldn't blame him for the technical problems of your car. If the car breaks down already on the shakedown, which is maybe 5-km long (as it happened in Elmot and Croatia rallies), that is not driver's fault, is it?

GTA, I have to add, that I wish you and your team a lot of success next year. I really hope that your car will finally prove reliable, because in my opinion, it is the best looking S2000 car ever built! If only you could re-paint it, because silver rally cars look terrible ;)

Good luck to you!
http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=2340&pg_[go]=12

[GTA]

i know everybody is free to write what they want, but stay fair... if a car has a technical problem.. so be it... thats motorsport you never can predict what is going to happen,. and when somebody starts a new project it takes time.. with Czopik i can only say that we never had a driver that was speaking so bad to the press all the time..i have all the prints from the Polish websites with al comments they give on the websites like Autoclub and Rallyonline... pleople have no respect in what they write for the teams... even if sometimes he was right and he had a problem.. but problems are always to be solved within the team with the team management and not in Public.... ( sometimes the news was faster on the internet then we know it in the service park !! ) its not good for the Team, driver and manufacturer... thats all...for the rest we have a fantastic car that starts to be 100 % good and will score more interesting results soon with the right drivers. Greetings to beautifull Poland, a country i learned to appreciate a lot.

[Addicted]

HaCo, could you tell more about that S2000 and Finland rumour?

[Grant_RSA]

i heard another rumour yesterday, please note it is a rumour! that the an Auris will debut in our penultimate event of the year in 3 weeks time!

i think it may be true as we have a very talented young driver who has already won his championship in A7 and they want to get him into a S2000 before the end of the season. With the Auris coming for senior driver Serge Damseaux this will open up a car for him.

[GTA]

we are talking to several drivers from Finland to drive the Polo S 2000 next yesr.

[Tom206wrc]

Between end 2007 and start 2008 Réunion Island(an african island belonging to France, considered as a french department) could have at least two S2000 cars(a Grande Punto and a 207)for local rally drivers... ;)

[A.F.F.]

we are talking to several drivers from Finland to drive the Polo S 2000 next yesr.

Any chance of telling who ???

Even by PM ;)

Pleeeeease :)

[PLuto]

Any chance of telling who ???

Even by PM ;)

Pleeeeease :)

Marcus Grönholm :s mokin:

[Karbonyl]

Marcus Grönholm :s mokin:Polobosse :D

[principe IRC]

Test D.Sola in Asturias today.

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/8702/img4933iq3.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8594/img4949wl3.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9361/img4910oy4.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Principe IRC !! :)

So I saw right it's one of the 207s of the italian team Twister Corse ;)

[katxal]

i´m making a S.2000 database and i have a few doubts, peugeot hungary car and peugeot poland car is the same vehicle?
Has anyone know any number of chassis, i only have the number 19 from Fiat DG 310 ZM.

Information about pug 207 with reg plate GI R0 207 (Deutschland) driven by R.Shaymiev

If anyone could help me i would be great!

[WRC1]

i´m making a S.2000 database and i have a few doubts, peugeot hungary car and peugeot poland car is the same vehicle?
Has anyone know any number of chassis, i only have the number 19 from Fiat DG 310 ZM.

Information about pug 207 with reg plate GI R0 207 (Deutschland) driven by R.Shaymiev

If anyone could help me i would be great!

hi katxal!!

i can only help you with the hungarian/polish car!

yes i can confirm this is the same car used by janos toth in hungary/irc and brian bouffier in poland

here
http://rally.hu/yappa/index.php?album=janika_s2000_teszt_wrc1&page=3&albumnev=Janika+S200+teszt+by+WRC1

on the last picture in this galerie you find the chassis number of this car No. 007

reg

wrc1

[katxal]

thank u very much!

[Tom206wrc]

Five S2000s on next event of polish championship Rajd Nikon next week :D

Bouffier(207)
Solowow(Grande Punto)
Czopik(Grande Punto)
Guzek(Grande Punto)
Lubiak(Grande Punto)



Finally no Tomasz Czopik on this event !! :mark:

http://www.autoklub.pl/16855,news.html

[N.O.T]

Is sola going to change the Civic for the IRC ?? what was the test for ??

[Madeira]

Is sola going to change the Civic for the IRC ?? what was the test for ??

This is an extra-rally for him, he will continue driving for Honda for sure. Don't forget next season Rallye Principe de Asturias will be in IRC calendar!

[A.F.F.]

Marcus Grönholm :s mokin:

Excellent news :D

[PLuto]

i´m making a S.2000 database and i have a few doubts, peugeot hungary car and peugeot poland car is the same vehicle?
Has anyone know any number of chassis, i only have the number 19 from Fiat DG 310 ZM.

Information about pug 207 with reg plate GI R0 207 (Deutschland) driven by R.Shaymiev

If anyone could help me i would be great!

Hi. Write to [email:29xemm4f]stezi73@tin.it[/email:29xemm4f], he has S2000 database and is in very good "condition" :p

[katxal]

Hi. Write to [email:2somhved]stezi73@tin.it[/email:2somhved], he has S2000 database and is in very good "condition" :p

yeah, we talked a few minutes before...so i think we will work togheter in the same way

[Tom206wrc]

This is an extra-rally for him, he will continue driving for Honda for sure. Don't forget next season Rallye Principe de Asturias will be in IRC calendar!




People of Honda should be more careful, Sola can fall in love with S2000 cars and leave 2WD R3 :D :p :

[Mirek]

People of Honda could make S2000 for him as well ;) :D

[katxal]

People of Honda should be more careful, Sola can fall in love with S2000 cars and leave 2WD R3 :D :p :

Sola can fall in love with the s2000 but his pocket is empty so is a tragic love story

[Tom206wrc]

As I wrote in the Sanremo thread(in WRC section of the forum), Brice Tirabassi will also run the Sanremo IRC event this month with the other BSA 207 S2000 along with Julien Pressac... :)

[sal]

Bad news for British fans as the Corolla S2000 will not be seen in the BRC for the last two rounds.

http://www.davidhigginsrally.com/press-releases.php5

[Tom206wrc]

The "Corolla/Auris in Europe" story seems to be the worst in the S2000 world(even worse than the Polo) :s

After Vitor Sà and homologation problem for the Corolla he was about to drive on Madeira championship this year, I never heard about the Toyota S2000 on european rallies(except sometimes in UK)... :(

[Filip]

It's a pity, it would be nice to see as many different s2000 cars. :(

[HaCo]

"Even worse than the Polo", damn, why does the polo have such a bad image? Just because of Czopick... Look at the Punto, how many technical problems did it have, does anybody say it's bad? The Polo has done several victory's and kicked Punto's en 207's ass in Ypres. Just bad luck caught them out, just like many others were caught out.

I can understand why the Corolla story has stopped, because they don't made any succes. I've heard Grifone would do the Auris togheter with Toyota SA.

[Tom206wrc]

We cannot say that until now the Polo collected rallies and victories in Europe, Czopik or not !!! :rolleyes:

[HaCo]

We cannot say that until now the Polo collected rallies and victories in Europe, Czopik or not !!! :rolleyes:

But you can't call it worse either, that is my point.

If there were as many polos at the start of an international rally as there are 207's or punto's you could make a decent comparision.

[Karbonyl]

In my eye the Polo is very competetive car. Unfortunately it wasn't run it manufacture team like Fiat or Pug, but I'm sure it can be pretty fast. The biggest problem is that there are run only few cars divided to too many drivers. But it isn't problem of the car itself. We shouldn't measure abilities of this car through Czopik's performances, because he showed nothing also in Punto...

[Tom206wrc]

Isn't reliability also a problem on the Polo ?? :confused:

I mean not only about Czopik case, but also Loix and Hevia of course... :rolleyes:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

The main problem of Polo, in my point of view is the developer team, in this case, René Georges.

Attention, I'm not telling that René Georges isn't a good team, or something, but we can't compare them to an official team like Fiat or Peugeot...

René Georges could have the best engineers, the best drivers, but for sure they don't have the same budget has official teams... and that's make a huge difference...

[Karbonyl]

If I look at Puntos or Pugs, how many errors they have, i don't think Polo run out of average of S2000 cars. Let's wait to have more Polos on the tracks and then we can make objective statistics ;) When Punto was on the stages in first year of it's life, there were also soooooooooooooo many bugs...

[Karbonyl]

[Madeira-Rally]: I agree. I think this differrence is also seen between René georges Rally Sport and SA VW a bit.

[Wim_Impreza]

Freddy Loix drives again the Polo S2000 this weekend in the 6th event of the Belgium Rally Championship, the 'Omloop of Flandres'. See http://www.omloopvanvlaanderen.be ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Freddy Loix drives again the Polo S2000 this weekend in the 6th event of the Belgium Rally Championship, the 'Omloop of Flandres'. See www.omloopvanvlaanderen.be (http://www.omloopvanvlaanderen.be) ;)

Were we can follow live results ;) ?

[Wim_Impreza]

]Were we can follow live results ;) ?

Here you can find them: http://www.omloopvanvlaanderen.be/movv/homemovven.htm

Melissa Debackere is leader after SS2! Freddy Loix is already out in SS1 with punctures on his Polo.

There is a mention about the results of 2006, but they are live results of 2007. ;)

[HaCo]

Loix retired with a broken driveshaft, it's a pitty for him. It's going much better for Hevia in Spain.

But you are right, developing as a private team is very hard!

[GTA]

Listen all, there is no developing problem with the Polo S 2000, the car is good and fast and is being developed by VW Racing South Africa, where it also is running good... Fiat has a big advantage with the Punto and so does Peugeot.... we VW and and also Toyota need minimum 1 or 2 years to get everyting right on asphalt, ( we only did 1 Snow rally were we were 2nd until Czopik put the car in a snow wall and we did 1 Gravel rally also with czopik were he was 4th until he went off the road and loose 17 minutes ) we learn every rally more and more. do not forget that the 1st afphalt version of the Polo was only made in beginning of November 2006 !! and for now the car has already made some good results Hevia win a few Times and Loix also.... Czopik was fast in Poland but was unlucky that he had some things that we never had with the other 2 drivers and they all 3 drive the same cars. ( and Czopik was also not fast in the Punto ). and now we go to Portugal soon were i hope we can do some good things with some interesting driver(s).

[Tom206wrc]

This coming week-end Alessandro Perico runs the Rally Città di Bassano in the GMA Racing 207 S2000 :)

http://www.bassanorally.it

[Tom206wrc]

New customer for the 207 S2000 !!!! Czech driver Josef Petak(current driver of Clio S1600) is aiming this car for the 2008 season :eek:

http://www.autoklub.pl/16935,news.html


Any comment from our czech members ?? :confused:

[PLuto]

New customer for the 207 S2000 !!!! Czech driver Josef Petak(current driver of Clio S1600) is aiming this car for the 2008 season :eek:

http://www.autoklub.pl/16935,news.html


Any comment from our czech members ?? :confused:

It is true, it will be car from Racing Lions and maybe he will start with it next weekend on Rally Pribram. http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=5060

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Pluto ;)

[Karbonyl]

It's not clear if the car will be bought or rented. But we will inform ;)

[GTA]

We cannot say that until now the Polo collected rallies and victories in Europe, Czopik or not !!! :rolleyes:

until now: Hevia win 2 x in Spain with the Polo S 2000 and Lox 1 x in Belgium.... ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Jozef Petak even tested the 207 alongside Brice Tirabassi in France :D

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=6721

[blackmar]

The Peugeot is the best S2000 for the moment. Fiat is close but only few cars are really good and for some drivers only.

Does anyone knows what happened with the Corolla? New rummor about Fiesta S2000 as well - tests in Portugal at the moment I heard.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

The Peugeot is the best S2000 for the moment. Fiat is close but only few cars are really good and for some drivers only.

Does anyone knows what happened with the Corolla? New rummor about Fiesta S2000 as well - tests in Portugal at the moment I heard.

Who is testing in Portugal???? Corolla or Fiesta :confused:

I haven't heard nothing about Corolla or Fiesta in Portugal :s

[PLuto]

]Who is testing in Portugal???? Corolla or Fiesta :confused:

I haven't heard nothing about Corolla or Fiesta in Portugal :s

WOW. There is news about rallying in Portugal, which is new also for Paulo! :p

[jose camacho]

It makes no sense a Fiesta S2000 at this moment. The model it's at "the end of line".
The new Fiesta will be comercalized in final 2008/beginig 2009. With a new car, it's logical a Ford Fiesta S2000.

[oreixa]

Nuno Barroso will drive a Polo S2000 in next rally, if he likes it, will buy it.

[Mirek]

jose: I think that body change is not a real big problem for S2000 ;)

[HaCo]

Jiha, fiesta would be great!!!

For sure it is still interesting, they still need to sell all the models still in stock... ;)

[A.F.F.]

]jose: I think that body change is not a real big problem for S2000 ;)

;) I agree.

But I've also heard the same rumour considering Fiesta S2000. I truly hope it's true.

[M5]

Wonder when we will see the first S2000 in the Norwegian championchip.
Hopefully someone will take the chance, and be the first.

Are there any used ones on the market yet ?

[A.F.F.]

Are there any used ones on the market yet ?

If Paasonen competed with one, there would be a bunch already :p :

[Tom206wrc]

Wonder when we will see the first S2000 in the Norwegian championchip.
Hopefully someone will take the chance, and be the first.

Are there any used ones on the market yet ?




I thought Peugeot-Sport Norway purchased a 207 ??? :confused:

[Mirek]

A.F.F.: Paasonen said that no WRC is boring to him, so that he's competing in rallycross. I think we'll see him on our Meeting of champions, or how to translate it :) in Sosnová in november.

[A.F.F.]

]A.F.F.: Paasonen said that no WRC is boring to him, so that he's competing in rallycross. I think we'll see him on our Meeting of champions, or how to translate it :) in Sosnová in november.

Well, the feeling is quite mutual to be frank. WRC without Paasonen is more boring :) If you see him, say hi to him from his biggest fan and try to convince him back to rallying.

[Tom206wrc]

Interesting news from Portugal again :p :


For the 2008 season of Madeira championship Peugeot-Sport is aiming a 207 S2000 for current leader Alexandre Camacho(who runs a 206 S1600) !! :up:

[M5]

I thought Peugeot-Sport Norway purchased a 207 ??? :confused:

No they got a S1600 last year, driven by Anders Kjær. He also got to drive a 307WRC in Rally Norway.

The S1600 has had a lot of glitches this year, and only starts to last to the finish in the last couple of months - but now it is starting to move.....

But no S2000 so far as far as I know.

[Tom206wrc]

It is true, it will be car from Racing Lions and maybe he will start with it next weekend on Rally Pribram. http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=5060




So finally the Clio or the 207 for Petak at rally Pribram ??? :confused:

[Mirek]

When I look at the entry list there is still Clio. But I don't know...

[PLuto]

So finally the Clio or the 207 for Petak at rally Pribram ??? :confused:

I was using word "maybe". Now it looks that Petak will start with Clio.

[jose camacho]

"jose: I think that body change is not a real big problem for S2000 "

It is not a technical question. It's a commercial and marketing question. They have a Fiesta S2000 in Australia, with local rules, Montune engine.
To Ford, in Europe, i think they want the new car with a new bodyshell. They have now the prototipe of the new Fiesta. So they can prepare the new car with a long time to developement.

[Karbonyl]

So the same case as Corolla...

[Tom206wrc]

Another customer in Spain for the S2000 in 2008 !!! :D

http://www.rallyes.net/noticias/nacional/sergio_perez_con_un_super2000_en_2008.html

[oreixa]

Another customer in Spain for the S2000 in 2008 !!! :D

http://www.rallyes.net/noticias/nacional/sergio_perez_con_un_super2000_en_2008.html

It seems that Perez will buy an 2007 unit from Peugeot Sport España.

[Tom206wrc]

Before going to Sanremo next week, Bruno Magalhaes will run penultimate round of portuguse rallies championship, the Rali Centro do Portugal this week-end ;)

He he wins it he'll be national champion, but he also has to avoid breaking the car with Sanremo coming quickly after... :mark:

[teufel]

Rumor says, that TRT Hungary has ordered a second 207 from Peugeot Sport...

[Tom206wrc]

Rumor says, that TRT Hungary has ordered a second 207 from Peugeot Sport...


It's the trend to most teams owning S2000 cars to try to get several of them !! :D

[Tom206wrc]

Go have a look on the "Tour de Corse entrylist" thread in the "WRC" section of the forum: there will be Tirabassi, Sola, Bertolotti(all driving a 207)and Chossat(driving the Automeca Sport Grande Punto)... ;)

But it's a pitty that more italian drivers(Basso, Rossetti, Scandola, Travaglia,...)don't come with their S2000s in Corsican WRC round :(

[Sulland]

Any news on the Fabia S2000 ?

Will they make the 2008 IRC start ?

[Mirek]

Sulland: Fabia becomes a bit misterious. We know almost nothing. But team boss told half a year a go that they will not homologate the car sooner than in August 2008.

[Tom206wrc]

Now I have the feeling in 2008 we won't have in Europe more than Fiat and Peugeot again in S2000 for full season and maybe sometimes Volkswagen,...a little bit like this year :(


Let's hope the MG will have good pace this year at the Valais with Alexandre Bengué in order the car could compete full 2008 season :rolleyes:

[Tom206wrc]

Interesting !!! The portuguese Polo S2000 has Pirelli tyres !! It's the first time I see that car on that tyres make !! :)

Pics of the tests ;)
http://www.pregoafundo.com//index.php?option=com_easygallery&task=category&cid=94&Itemid=30

[M5]

The Suzuki Rally boss has said in Autosport that instead of killing the WRC project, due to the new proposed rules that a WRC car has to be based on S2000/Gr N - they will probably start the process of building a S2000 rally car.
If they do that we are up to 6 cartypes to choose from !!

[Tom206wrc]

Look at this "perhaps future" livery !!! :p :

http://bp1.blogger.com/_jjYxAlYEXyo/RvF_aTLZEBI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/juR_MHn9aQw/s1600-h/1.bmp

[Sulland]

Anyone that knows anything on what the future of the Toyota S2000 ?

Higgins has stopped driving it in BRC, and that was the last I heard.

Anyone that knows more ?

[Tom206wrc]

I have the feeling in Europe the Toyota S2000 is definitively a fiasco :rolleyes:

[GTA]

as far as i know they have the same problems as we had with the Polo. they still do not have the car in LHD due to steeringrack problems, and lot of small things still to solve.... we are happy to have all things sorted in the VW Polo S 2000 and thats why the car is starting to score good results... and in South Africa the Toyota is a good car on Gravel ( is Corolla and in LHD ).. and the Polo ran in Portugal on Pirelli due to the contact of the driver with Pirelli, but we are sure the car works better on the BF Goodrich.

[HaCo]

Plus the corolla is an oooooold model. They should go on with the Auris, just hope they can work something out!

[Mirek]

It is highly possible that Jaromír Tarabus will drive Punto S2000 from JM Engineering in 2008 season Czech International Championship. The driver said that there was 70% probability. He tested the car and he said he would like to try it before the end of season on Labská rally or Prague rallysprint show. This year he was driving Suzuki Ignis S1600 (once Swift) and was the main group A opponent to Josef Peták who will use Peugeot 207 S2000 from Racing Lions next year.

[Filip]

That's great news Mirek, I like his driving and also it would be good for the championship. :)

[Grant_RSA]

From my understanding, the first Auris is virtually completed here in SA ,the homologtion needs to be completed.

The south african works teams will run the Auris next season, the present works cars are already sold to privateers.

[HaCo]

I just don't get it. Toyota develops the same car 2x, how dumb is that. There is an Auris in Australia running for a year now!!!

If you look at the corolla, it wasn't a big succes in england, maybe Toyota should learn to work togheter!!!

[Filip]

I don't understand that there is no factory team in Europe, they just throw a whole lot of money in F1 and they never had good results there.

[HaCo]

I don't understand that there is no factory team in Europe, they just throw a whole lot of money in F1 and they never had good results there.
Exactly. But it will take some years for Toyota to realise they have a lot more return on their WRC program than the bloody shummy in a toyota! Today I saw an old corolla with a litle logo of WRC championship wins on it. Very small and subtile, but it reminded me of very good times!

[Grant_RSA]

i dont really understand why the toyota hasnt worked in the U.K, the car wins in this country without any issues, along with the Polo!which i see beats the Fiat in Spain etc.

I'd also like to know why there are 2 versions of the Auris, i just do think that its a natural progression for SA to build it as they started with the Corolla,

Am i correct in saying that the Auris in Aus is only regionally homologated?

[Mirek]

I think You're right in Auris homologation ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Apparently first event for Jozef Petak with the 207 S2000 will be Labske trottina Rally(CZ) :)

Do you know when this rally starts ?? :confused:

[Mirek]

Yes, it is my closest event some 60 kilometers from my home :) It starts on 9th November, I think. The rally shoud have been in april originaly but there were problems with organization so it is moved on November. It leads through mountains and is quite technical in our local conditions (our mountains are just hills of about tousand meters). I'm afraid of snow on stages because no spikes are allowed... Anyway I'll be there definitely :)

[oreixa]

It seems that Jesus Puras will drive a 207 S2000 on spanish championship in 2008. The car will be a works one run by BMR.

[Tom206wrc]

It seems that Jesus Puras will drive a 207 S2000 on spanish championship in 2008. The car will be a works one run by BMR.



I hope next year BMR will continue the full IRC program too :confused:

[oreixa]

Yes, a double program at IRC and Spanish Championship

[Tom206wrc]

Yes, a double program at IRC and Spanish Championship


:bounce:

[Sulland]

Sources close to the Rene Georges VW team are saying that they will start the 2008 IRC season with a 2 car Polo team.

Exiting news !!!

[HaCo]

Sources close to the Rene Georges VW team are saying that they will start the 2008 IRC season with a 2 car Polo team.

Exiting news !!!

Haleluja!!! :D :D

[Tom206wrc]

This coming week-end at the International Rally Due Valli(Italy), there will be two S2000 cars on entrylist, including Umberto Scandola in the Abarth Grande Punto :D

But it will be impossible to get a podium place as there will be many WRC cars... :rolleyes:

http://www.rallyduevalli.it

Of course don't forget to follow next CIR event, the Rally Costa Smeralda(gravel) on which Fiat called...Anton Alen to part with Giandomenico Basso :bounce:


And at last, let's see what Brice Tirabassi, Dani Sola(both in 207s)and local driver Claude Chossat(Grande Punto)can do in Corsica WRC :p :

[M5]

Haleluja!!! :D :D


I have heard that Fast Freddie after his rally in the Grande Punto, was crystal clear on which one was the best car - and that that was the Polo.

If that is the case, the Polo future looks bright !

[Tom206wrc]

I have heard that Fast Freddie after his rally in the Grande Punto, was crystal clear on which one was the best car - and that that was the Polo.

If that is the case, the Polo future looks bright !




He didn't test the 207 to affirm that !! :p :

[M5]

He didn't test the 207 to affirm that !! :p :

Correct, and the lion might be a head in front of the others, at least on the reliability it looks like. The rest is hard to say.

But we all have our favorits, and that good !!

[Grant_RSA]

oooooohhhh its gotta hurt when Freddy says that , seeing as the Fiat is a fulll "works"car and the polo is a little piece of $#*& built in deepest darkest africa! and not "works"as you all like to put it! :-)

[RS]

There is a rumour Jan Kopecky will start the 2008 IRC with a Polo and then move to the Fabia when it is ready. If so, I imagine his father's team CRT would run the Polo rather than Jan drive for Rene Georges.

[PLuto]

There is a rumour Jan Kopecky will start the 2008 IRC with a Polo and then move to the Fabia when it is ready. If so, I imagine his father's team CRT would run the Polo rather than Jan drive for Rene Georges.

This rumour is, ehm, bad interpretation of journalists. There was press conference, where was Kopecky saying, that it looks next year they wont start in World Championship and there is possibility to start in IRC. One journalist was asking him, if he will start (before finishing Fabia S2000) with VW Polo S2000. And he answered that it should be one of the possibilities...

[Tom206wrc]

Logical for me !! VW and Skoda are part of the same group, I could hardly imagine a Skoda "born" driver driving a Grande Punto or a 207... :p :

[LP]

his ties to VolkswagenAudiGroup are very strong, so it's a good option, until the Fabia is ready for racing. the professional staff of CRT and the driving skills of Kopecky could make an impressive combination

[polo10]

I don't understand why Skoda is taking so much time to begin testing with the Fabia, they presented the prototype in March...I have a lot of expectations about that car, one of the problems of the VW Polo is that its in the end of its commercial life,it should be replaced in the beginning of 2009...
Come on Skoda show us the car

[PLuto]

I don't understand why Skoda is taking so much time to begin testing with the Fabia, they presented the prototype in March...I have a lot of expectations about that car, one of the problems of the VW Polo is that its in the end of its commercial life,it should be replaced in the beginning of 2009...
Come on Skoda show us the car

In March it was only bodyshell, not working model.

[PLuto]

Zsolt Kakuszi will start in Rally Kosice with Fiat Punto S2000.

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=5294

[Sulland]

According to the MSD website they are saying that the S2000 rally car has 270 Hp at 8500. Most others have 280+ have they not ?

They are not mentioning anything on the torque, that are very important also.

But 10-15 hp is 10-15 hp.....

But it is still early days !

[RS]

This rumour is, ehm, bad interpretation of journalists. There was press conference, where was Kopecky saying, that it looks next year they wont start in World Championship and there is possibility to start in IRC. One journalist was asking him, if he will start (before finishing Fabia S2000) with VW Polo S2000. And he answered that it should be one of the possibilities...

Yes, but at least it is a possibility. And it kind of makes sense.

I could see Jan driving a Mitsu Evo also because he has used that car before, but Polo would make more sense as it would mean CRT and Jan could learn about driving an S2000.

As some others said, Skoda are taking a verrrryyy long time to develop the Fabia. Latest I heard was October 2008? It had better be good!

[atsiotras79]

Aris Vovos will take part at next weekend's Kentavros Rally counting for Greek Tarmac Rally Cup with Fiat Punto S2000! He will also enter Palladion rally with the same car!

[oreixa]

Tirabassi has confirmed a 2008 IRC programm with the 207

[Tom206wrc]

According to the portuguese Autosport magazine there could be at list six S2000 cars on the 2008 national championship !!!! :eek:

Names given:
-José pedro Fontès(Fiat Grande Punto)
-Bruno Magalhaes(207)
-Bernardo Sousa(207)
-Vitor Pascoal(207)
-Nuno Baroso(207)
-Pedro Meireles(Polo)


Of course these are more rumours/speculations(but serious)than real official news but let's hope that becomes true :bounce:

[oreixa]

Pedro Meireles wants a Fabia S2000 but probably will start season with a rented Polo. Barroso and Pascoal tested the Polo on last rally, but Rene Georges don't assure them evolution of the car so they are looking for a 207.

[GTA]

what you write is not true, we (RGRS) never said that the VW Polo is not going to have evolutions, its just press talk and we are not happy with the Portugese autosport article. The VW Polo S 2000 will have many changes for next year and is fully developed by VW Racing SA and Rene Georges.

[oreixa]

I just said what the article says.

[polo10]

Sometimes journalist write what the drivers didn't said, i don't believe that the Nuno or Pedro said that RGRS is not going to developed the car, probably they said that with a factory behind the project, it is easier to develop the car, but sometimes jornalist write some sensacional things...
I think Pedro is the right man to drive the Polo, because of his conection with the group VW and i think he could be fast..

[GTA]

Oscar, we understand what the Journalist write in Autosport Portugal and we know the truth. that is why we made the reaction to this item. greetings to all in Spain where we hope the best for the championship this weekend... is going to be a big fight between Alberto and Fuster.

[GTA]

and ofcourse we hope Alberto will win it .... :)

[oreixa]

Sorry if my words sound rude or something similar.
I think that Alberto will win, he's the only driver that depends on his own result to get the championship. I'll be there on thursday, let's see what happens.

[GTA]

is ok Oscar, i know you only write here what you read in the article..... greetings, unfortunately i can not be in Spain, we have 1st Rally for the Polo S 2000 in Austria with Andreas Waldherr, so i need to be there.... but i will follow the rally online...

[jose camacho]

Last rumor:

-Grifone take the Toyota S2000 devlopement !

[PLuto]

Last rumor:

-Grifone take the Toyota S2000 devlopement !

Where have you found that rumour? I have heard about it in June, but from that time there is silence around...

[Tom206wrc]

And will Grifone let the Fiat Grande Punto S2000 down then ?? :confused:


I think Corrado Fontana is running on a Grande Punto from that team in ERC...

[Filip]

is ok Oscar, i know you only write here what you read in the article..... greetings, unfortunately i can not be in Spain, we have 1st Rally for the Polo S 2000 in Austria with Andreas Waldherr, so i need to be there.... but i will follow the rally online...

So it will be a great battle between him and Baumschlager. :)

I just hope Mundl wins! :D

[atsiotras79]

I also heard that rumour (Corolla S2000-Grifone) yesterday, and it seems logic to me. Grifone has really close connections with Toyota. I also heard a driver name for next year but it is too early to say anything about it!

[bf1_IRL]

MG S2000 to make its debut on RI :)

[Tom206wrc]

MG S2000 to make its debut on RI :)



Wrong in fact :p :

The MG already debuted on a british rally this season but had an early retirement(crash after having set a promising 4th best time in previous stage) ;)

I'll try to find the name or the rally... :mark:


EDIT: it was on the Plains Rally in Wales last 22nd september :D

[Karbonyl]

Actually we can fand and predict a lot of debuts of new MG:

First run: Plains rally (GB)
First run on tarmac: Rally du Valais (CH)
First run in WRC: Rally Ireland (IRL)
.
.
.

:D

[Tom206wrc]

It won't start at the Valais at all unfortuneately :mark:

[jose camacho]

"Where have you found that rumour? I have heard about it in June, but from that time there is silence around..."

In the last week-end, at the Sardignia Rally.

[bf1_IRL]

Sorry I meant to say its WRC debut :)
I knew about its outing on the plains rally and its subsequent retirement..
MSD have some pics on their site..http://www.msd-world.com/

[Mirek]

So... no Peták's S2000 debut in Labská rally because this rally was definitely cancelled. After many organisation problems during the season it seemed that it would take place in November instead of May but now it is all over. It's pitty because it's stages were one of the most beautiful in our country :(

[Sulland]

Sent an e-mail to Britek Motorsport in Australia for some info on the future of their Fiesta S2000 project.

They are saying that they will have a meeting with FIA in November to talk 2008 Homologation.

Due to the number of cars they have to make, Britek wrote that they are aiming for full FIA Homologation by second half of 08.

Price details: One car is US$250,000 – ready to run.

A full spares package $US120,000 which includes:

Engine
Gearbox and transmission – including prop shaft and drive shafts
2 complete sets of panels – including doors and bumpers
1 complete set of suspension – including uprights
16 rims (Braid)
Full complement of consumable spares

I have not compared this to Pug, VW or Fiat prices, so I do not know how they compare, but the US Dollar is cheap these days...

[PLuto]

Andrej Jereb will start on Waldviertel Rallye with Peugeot 207 S2000.

[Grant_RSA]

confirmation that toyota SA are seeking full FIA homologation for the Auris

http://www.rallyworld.net/news.asp?id=1485

[Tom206wrc]

Andrej Jereb will start on Waldviertel Rallye with Peugeot 207 S2000.



Excellent news !! :up:

[M5]

confirmation that toyota SA are seeking full FIA homologation for the Auris

http://www.rallyworld.net/news.asp?id=1485


Is there a picture of the new car ?

[Grant_RSA]

Will make sure i take one this weekend and post next week.

[Karbonyl]

Marco Tempestini used S2000 for the first time last weekend at romanian Raliul Iasululi Tester. It was Pug 207 from Friul Motor and Marco finished 5th.

[Tom206wrc]

Marco Tempestini used S2000 for the first time last weekend at romanian Raliul Iasululi Tester. It was Pug 207 from Friul Motor and Marco finished 5th.




I just found also the news few minutes/seconds ago on Autoklub.Pl site :D

[Mirek]

I heard that Kris Rosenberger will not start on Waldviertel due to broken ribbs from Ostarrici crash. Baumschlager probably too because his car is destroyed.

[Tom206wrc]

Why not renting an S2000 for Baumschlager then ??? ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Pascal Enjolras will drive a 207 S2000 from the MES(his father's team)on next week's Criterium des Cévennes(penultimate round of the french tarmac rallies championship) !!! :bounce: :bounce:

He clearly won't be able to fight with the three usual whales of the championship, but why not a big fight with the main actors of the Michelin trophy(driving 306 Maxis and Toyota Celica GTs) :D ;)

When I've got the entrylist of the Cévennes rally(should be tomorrow)I create a thread for the event ;)

[Tom206wrc]

According to http://www.rallyes.net Carlos Sainz could drive a Polo S2000 at the Rallye Shalymar in Spain :D

[Huufke]

A little late, but here's a picture of the Dutch debut of a Super 2000 car in the Nederland Rally a few weeks ago:

http://www.klaashuvenaars.com/ShowImage/polos2000Weijs.jpg

It's the Rene Georges Polo, driven by Hans Weijs (senior) and one week later driven by Andreas Waldherr in Austria’s Ostarrichi Rallye.

[katxal]

According to http://www.rallyes.net Carlos Sainz could drive a Polo S2000 at the Rallye Shalymar in Spain :D

rallyes.net always says a lot of things...

[Grant_RSA]

the Auris s2000 debut'd in South Africa this weekend as a pre zero car,

The car was in left hand drive spec which tells me that they are seeking full FIA homologation.

I unfortunately did not get a chance to take any pics of the car, but it is very good looking and a good build quality.

The car had a problem on day 1 and only completed 3 stages, however was sorted out and finished day 2 . I think this is very good considering the extreme rain and mud experienced on the event.

Jan Habig and Douglas Judd in an S2000 works Polo won the South African championships. Going into the last round, 4 teams all in S2000's had a chance of winning.

[Tom206wrc]

If only there were also 207s and Grande Puntos on south african championship... :mark:

[Karbonyl]

According to http://www.rallyes.net Carlos Sainz could drive a Polo S2000 at the Rallye Shalymar in Spain :D Carlos should run fabia WRC of Czech Rally Team Kopecký originally...

[Grant_RSA]

pity about the mud, but this gives an idea!

http://www.rallyworld.net/Gallery/RallyEvents/2007ToyotaDealerRally-Gauteng/00-aurisS2000-1.JPG

http://www.rallyworld.net/Gallery/RallyEvents/2007ToyotaDealerRally-Gauteng/00-aurisS20002.JPG

http://www.rallyworld.net/Gallery/RallyEvents/2007ToyotaDealerRally-Gauteng/00-aurisS20003.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

The Toyota looks nice in Castrol livery ;)

[Eyvind]

Zsolt Kakuszi will start in Rally Kosice with Fiat Punto S2000.

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=5294

Finally not start?

[Wim_Impreza]

Freddy Loix was yesterday with the Volkswagen Polo S2000 second in the JMC Rally in Jalhay, Belgium. At the finish, he was just one second slower than Larry Cols, Belgium Rally Champion 2007. For both, it was a preparation for this weekend when they drive the last round of the Belgian Rally Championship 2007, the 'Rallye du Condroz' in Huy.

[teufel]

Finally not start?

He decided to drive a Peugeot 207 S2000 on the last non-championship run in Hungary, he said it seems to be a better deal. He won't change his Clio S1600 for a S2000 car, it's just a one-off.

[Mirek]

Grzegorz Grzyb will drive Punto S2000 in Slovakia next season. Maybe in Poland too. He may drive it in Rally show Barborka in Warszawa in December.

[Eyvind]

He decided to drive a Peugeot 207 S2000 on the last non-championship run in Hungary, he said it seems to be a better deal. He won't change his Clio S1600 for a S2000 car, it's just a one-off.

Thanks for the info !

[Eyvind]

]Grzegorz Grzyb will drive Punto S2000 in Slovakia next season. Maybe in Poland too. He may drive it in Rally show Barborka in Warszawa in December.

Maybe Punto S2000 from JM Engineering ? :confused:
Or a new car?

[RS]

Freddy Loix was yesterday with the Volkswagen Polo S2000 second in the JMC Rally in Jalhay, Belgium. At the finish, he was just one second slower than Larry Cols, Belgium Rally Champion 2007. For both, it was a preparation for this weekend when they drive the last round of the Belgian Rally Championship 2007, the 'Rallye du Condroz' in Huy.

Wow, Freddy had a very busy weekend!

[GTA]

Carlos should run fabia WRC of Czech Rally Team Kopecký originally...

WRC cars are not allowed in this rally, thats why the question came about the Polo S 2000

[GTA]

Volkswagen won the South African Rally championship for the 3rd year with the Polo S 2000 :)

[Mirek]

Eyvind: Probably yes.

[Tom206wrc]

Does someone has pics of the first dutch 207 S2000(owned by Dennis Kuipers who should run the last event of 2007 dutch championship this week-end) :confused:

[Karbonyl]

Maybe Punto S2000 from JM Engineering ? :confused:
Or a new car?It should be JM's car. It definitely will not run at Barborka in December, because the car is going to be used in CZ at Prazsky Rallysprint.

[Jarek Z]

Yes, Grzyb said that the information about Fiat Punto S2000 for next year is 90% sure. He is a good driver and has much experience in aggressive cars, like Pug 206 S1600 or Suzukis S1600. Last year he won Slovakian championship and this year he was third.

http://img.rallyonline.pl/news2/2007/07kosice03grzyb_460.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

He decided to drive a Peugeot 207 S2000 on the last non-championship run in Hungary, he said it seems to be a better deal. He won't change his Clio S1600 for a S2000 car, it's just a one-off.



Could you write the link to this hungarian rally's website ?? :confused:

[teufel]

Could you write the link to this hungarian rally's website ?? :confused:

Of course! :)

http://www.rallyheart.hu/index.php?sid=hir730

They said the car comes from Italy, but they didn't say from which team...

[Eyvind]

Italian teams with 207 S2000, one of these three options: Racing Lions, Twister Corse or Friul Motor

[Karbonyl]

African Auris S2000:

http://www.aurisblog.co.za/files/u11/rallycar_frontL.jpg http://www.aurisblog.co.za/files/u11/rallycar_backL.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Of course! :)

http://www.rallyheart.hu/index.php?sid=hir730

They said the car comes from Italy, but they didn't say from which team...



Thanks :)

[Eyvind]

In this link there is information the Peugeot of Jereb in Waldviertel:
http://www.a-jereb.si/2007/waldviertel/1.html

Can someone translate?

The car is an Italian team? :rolleyes:

[Karbonyl]

WRC cars are not allowed in this rally, thats why the question came about the Polo S 2000According to the Supplementary regulations the WRC cars can be on the list. This competition is not a part of Spanish championship...

[teufel]

Italian teams with 207 S2000, one of these three options: Racing Lions, Twister Corse or Friul Motor

It should be FriulMotor, they say in the interview that the car comes from a team, that has raced already in Hungary

[Tom206wrc]

Only the TRT(Tagai Racing Technology)207 ran in Hungary to my knowledge :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Italian debut of the Toyota Corolla S2000 this week-end at the Rally Montefeltro(gravel championship) !!! :eek:
Its driver will be Simone Campedelli...

It was so long we didn't hear about the Toyota S2000 running in Europe !! :D

Note there's also a 207 S2000 on entrylist ;)

http://62.149.231.75/scuderia/index.php

[Karbonyl]

Does anyone know if the Corolla is going to be LHD or RHD?

[jose camacho]

It's a confirmation. The Corolla drived by Campedelli have the suport from Grifone.

[Dejan]

In this link there is information the Peugeot of Jereb in Waldviertel:
http://www.a-jereb.si/2007/waldviertel/1.html

Can someone translate?

The car is an Italian team? :rolleyes:

The car is from italian team Friulmotor. Team will use this rally as a test of a car on gravel roads.

[Eyvind]

thanks Dejan !

This car was also used in gravel by Marco Tempestini at a rally in rumania. It will be his second rally on gravel! :)

It will be a good test, Jereb is very fast

[Tom206wrc]

WOW !!!! The dutch 207 livery(Dennis Kuipers) !!!! :eek: :eek:

Really really gorgeous !!! :bounce: :bounce:

http://www.rallysport.nl/index.php?module=nieuws&id=2160

[Wim_Impreza]

More good news for you, Tom. In the article they said that Dennis Kuipers will drive the full Dutch championship in 2008 and they will take the Group N title than. ;) The car will prepared by Wevers Sport and they had already a short test this Monday.

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks for the summary of the text Wim :D

[HaCo]

More good news for you, Tom. In the article they said that Dennis Kuipers will drive the full Dutch championship in 2008 and they will take the Group N title than. ;) The car will prepared by Wevers Sport and they had already a short test this Monday.
What makes you so sure about the title? :)

[Tom206wrc]

He in fact surely meant Kuipers will AIM the GrN title next year :p :

[Wim_Impreza]

He in fact surely meant Kuipers will AIM the GrN title next year :p :

Yes, sorry. ;)

[HaCo]

Ooooh, ok... ;)


Looking forward to the Condroz Rally, should be a nice S2000 battle! Plus, the dirty (wet) roads should help Cols in his Mitsu, even Bouffier could make a chance in his Subaru N4!

Let's wait and see! :D

[Tom206wrc]

WOW !!!! The dutch 207 livery(Dennis Kuipers) !!!! :eek: :eek:

Really really gorgeous !!! :bounce: :bounce:

http://www.rallysport.nl/index.php?module=nieuws&id=2160




Where can I find real pics of the car ??? :confused:

Above irts only a drawing...

[Jarek Z]

Two Polish drivers will drive Super 2000 cars in Wales Rally GB (a WRC event). Michal Solowow (http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=2585&pg_[go]=0) and Michal Kosciuszko will both drive Fiats Punto S2000. Solowow is entered with Mitsubishi, but he said he will drive Fiat on this event.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Two Polish drivers will drive Super 2000 cars in Wales Rally GB (a WRC event). Michal Solowow (http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=2585&pg_[go]=0 (http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=2585&pg_%5Bgo%5D=0)) and Michal Kosciuszko will both drive Fiats Punto S2000. Solowow is entered with Mitsubishi, but he said he will drive Fiat on this event.

From who is the car Kosciuszko will drive in Wales Rally ?

[Mirek]

I guess JM Engineering. I hope the car is alive after Walles because of Prague rally show :)

[Jarek Z]

I don't have any information about it, but since the last rally he did was with JM Engineering, that would be my guess. Kosciuszko is not a bad driver, but don't expect anything great from him.

[Karbonyl]

I also think it will be JM's car, because originally there should start Jaan Mölder with that car, but finally he isn not on the list.

[Jarek Z]

Polish driver Mariusz Malyszczycki (I'd love to hear you guys trying to pronounce his full name correctly! :D ) participated in the last hillclimbing round with Fiat Punto S2000. He didn't win, but he said he would like to compete with this car in full Polish Rally Championship next year. This year he won Hillclimbing championship using Skoda Fabia WRC (and the above mentioned Fiat Punto S2000 in one round).

Here are some photos (look for a white Fiat no. 3):
http://www.rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T[id]=2675

[Tom206wrc]

Depite what Bouffier showed this year with the 207, all polish drivers jump on the Grande Punto instead ??? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Return of Miguel Campos ???? :eek: :eek:

It seems according to Ralis.Pt that former Peugeot Portugal champion Miguel Campos had a test with Magalhaes 207 S2000 and could run a second car at the last round of the championship(Rali Casino do Algarve) :confused:

[Jarek Z]

Depite what Bouffier showed this year with the 207, all polish drivers jump on the Grande Punto instead ??? :confused:

It's because Fiat is much more accessible to the drivers.
And don't forget that Zlin (JM Enginnering headquarters) is only 150 km from Poland. And where is the nearest Pug 207 S2000? In France or Italy. That makes a difference...

[Jarek Z]

Return of Miguel Campos ???? :eek: :eek:

That would be fantastic news!!!

[HaCo]

That would be fantastic news!!!
Yeah, would be awesome!

[Eyvind]

Polish driver Mariusz Malyszczycki (I'd love to hear you guys trying to pronounce his full name correctly! :D ) participated in the last hillclimbing round with Fiat Punto S2000. He didn't win, but he said he would like to compete with this car in full Polish Rally Championship next year. This year he won Hillclimbing championship using Skoda Fabia WRC (and the above mentioned Fiat Punto S2000 in one round).=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T[id]=2675] (http://www.rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc)

The registration plate is 14R-0111, the same as Jaan Mölder in Saarema. That car is also of JM Engineering?

The other car usual Guzek has plate registration 14R-0044
Can be the same car with different registration plates?
Or two different cars of JM Engineering?

Thanks Jarek

[PLuto]

The registration plate is 14R-0111, the same as Jaan Mölder in Saarema. That car is also of JM Engineering?

The other car usual Guzek has plate registration 14R-0044
Can be the same car with different registration plates?
Or two different cars of JM Engineering?

Thanks Jarek

Registration plate 14R-0044 was used only once - by Guzek. After his crash that car was totally destroyed. So there is new bodyshell and chassis from Italy, so there must also be a new registration plate - 14R-0111 :s mokin:

And yes, that car is from JM.

[PLuto]

]From who is the car Kosciuszko will drive in Wales Rally ?

Yes, he will drive a car from JM. He will also drive it on Waldviertel Rallye.

[Eyvind]

thanks PLuto.

The new bodyshell and chassis from Italy, know if it was purchased from Grifone?

In Barum Roman Odlozilik drove a car with the registration plate DC-712-CC, the same as one of the Fiat-Grifone. Perhaps then was changed to 14R-0111.

[Filip]

thanks PLuto.

The new bodyshell and chassis from Italy, know if it was purchased from Grifone?

In Barum Roman Odlozilik drove a car with the registration plate DC-712-CC, the same as one of the Fiat-Grifone. Perhaps then was changed to 14R-0111.

There was one interesting thing on Barum: Odložilik damaged his front bumper,so they put a spare one with DC-712-CC number, while he was having 14R 0044 plate on the rear. :D

[Eyvind]

Oh that if it was difficult to understand! Hahahaha :)

Thanks Filip

[HaCo]

Very smart of GRIFONE to drive a Punto, get to know it and then use that experience to develop an Auris. :D

[Tom206wrc]

Interesting !!! According to Ralis.Online.Pt, IRC champion Enrique Garcia-Ojeda and Peugeot-Spain would have been invited by Peugeot-Portugal to drive last round of portuguese championship Rali Casino do Algarve :eek:

There could be then at least three 207s on that event(Bruno Magalhaes, Miguel Campos and Enrique Garcia Ojeda) :D

About the Fiat-Portugal driver José Pedro Fontès it seems he will have to change of codriver, Fernando Prata having been hurt in the crash at Rali Mortagua :mark:

[HaCo]

Very nice image:
http://www.rallyimmagine.com/Media/Rally_Montefeltro/BIG-refB124-refM8325-N24-800x533.jpg
http://www.rallyimmagine.com/foto_omar_rossi/Foto_Gallery/32_TRT_Rally_del_Montefeltro_2007_Pag-1.html

[Tom206wrc]

Any pics of Andrej Jereb's 207 tests/presentation for the Waldviertel Rally ?? :confused:

[sal]

Are Grifone with their strong links to Toyota going to take over the promotion of their S2000 cars in Europe? Very strong suggestions in the UK that RED are no longer involved...

[M5]

Grifone is becoming the european arm of Toyota S2000R project I have heard. They will use the Corolla as is, to gain experience, and concentrate on developing the Auris.

Anyone that has heard differently ?

In SA the Auris is being tested already:
http://www.rallyworld.net/Gallery/RallyEvents/2007ToyotaDealerRally-Gauteng/00-aurisS2000-1.JPG

[Addicted]

This Grifone deal gives much more credibility to Toyota`s program.

[M5]

I think both the Corolla and the first picks of the Auris show that the Toyota looks much more like a ordinary car than the more agressive looking Pugs, VW and Fiat's - not to mention the Skoda, even if that only was a "model".

Maybe Grifone will have an impact here as well ?

[HaCo]

For me the looks are less important than the speed + body kits raise the price too... So, looks are nice to have, but I'm allready happy whan Toyota is rallying and not throwing away its budget to F1!

[Karbonyl]

There was one interesting thing on Barum: Odložilik damaged his front bumper,so they put a spare one with DC-712-CC number, while he was having 14R 0044 plate on the rear. :D Filip, are you sure? :)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/e6188b94171fc2e533a08d08c1977105.jpg

[HaCo]

Just found out a great article concerning the Ford Fiesta S2000:
http://www.rally.com.au/home/features/articleid=2652

So, it will get FIA homologation in 2008!!!

JIHAAA!!!

A Fiesta in the UK would be just awesome!

[Tom206wrc]

Ex-TRA(Trofeo Rally Asfalto)drivers Felice Re and Tobia Cavallini will drive S2000 cars last round of the CIR(Campionato Italiano Rally)next week(Rally di Como) !!! :D


Felice Re(who unsuccesfully drove a Skoda Fabia WRC on TRA)will drive a Fiat Grande Punto S2000 while Tobia Cavallini(who drove a Subaru Impreza WRC on TRA and an Impreza GrN on a few selected CIR events) will drive the newly Tam-Auto 207 S2000... ;)

[Filip]

Filip, are you sure? :)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/e6188b94171fc2e533a08d08c1977105.jpg

I'm not 100% sure, but they changed bumpers few times so anything is possible.

[HaCo]

Has anybody noticed that the Grifone Corolla was LHD? :D

[Tom206wrc]

Interesting !!! According to Ralis.Online.Pt, IRC champion Enrique Garcia-Ojeda and Peugeot-Spain would have been invited by Peugeot-Portugal to drive last round of portuguese championship Rali Casino do Algarve :eek:

There could be then at least three 207s on that event(Bruno Magalhaes, Miguel Campos and Enrique Garcia Ojeda) :D

About the Fiat-Portugal driver José Pedro Fontès it seems he will have to change of codriver, Fernando Prata having been hurt in the crash at Rali Mortagua :mark:



Gutted !!! Enrique Garcia-Ojeda didn't accept the invitation to run the Rali Casino do Algarve ;(

Certainly because of the preparation and check of the spanish 207 for the 2008 IRC season... :mark:

[soprano]

Andrej Jereb was testing Peugeot 207 S2000 ( from Friulmotors ) on shakedown of Waldviertel rally in Austria. He`s happy with the car.

http://www.superspecial.si/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1896&Itemid=294

[Tom206wrc]

Nice livery !!! :D


It's the first time a 207 S2000 will run on Dunlop tyres though :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

According to Echappement magazine of november, Mathieu Biasion(french nefiew of the famous italian driver Massimo "Micky" Biasion)will drive a 207 S2000 on 8 events of the 2008 IRC !!! :eek:

[HaCo]

Greaaaat! :D