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wwbroe
25th July 2008, 12:08
Hello everybody, i know it is still over a month till the rally, but i want to open the thread allready, so we can post all info about it over here. Link to the official website:
http://www.rallyeprincipe.com/

c4
25th July 2008, 12:12
Higgins ought to be there in the MG and possibly Meeke
http://www.rallybuzz.com/higgins-irc-rounds-spain-switzerland-mg/

http://rallybuzz.stagetimes.com/kris-meeke-rallye-deutschland-2008-munaretto-clio/

wwbroe
25th July 2008, 12:18
Does anybody have detailed maps of the stages, or stages in Google Earth or gpx-file? I would like to visit the event this year and it would be great help to me to plan my rally. If you don't want it to be put on the web, you can send me personal mail or contact me trough ICQ. Thanks in advance. ;)

wwbroe
27th July 2008, 17:03
I made myself a google earth file off the shakedown. Can somebody of or Spanish friends control if it is allright? I am looking for any decent maps of stages, so that i can make google-earth files of it. Can anybody help me with this?

http://rapidshare.com/files/132855729/Shakedown.kmz.html

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wwbroe
2nd August 2008, 21:09
Looks like not too many people will go and visit this rally. Does nobody have any decent info about it. Desperatly looking for more info, because on official website, there isn't too much that is usable. :mad:

dperez
4th August 2008, 14:23
The stages: http://www.rallyeprincipe.com/2008docs/Mapa%20RPA%2008.jpg

Itinerary: http://www.rallyeprincipe.com/2008docs/Itinerario%20Horario%20RPA08.pdf

Entry list? Do you know some news of pilots?

Bye

VFTS
4th August 2008, 18:30
Didier Auriol will probably start in Asturias.

wwbroe
4th August 2008, 22:34
The stages: http://www.rallyeprincipe.com/2008docs/Mapa%20RPA%2008.jpg

Itinerary: http://www.rallyeprincipe.com/2008docs/Itinerario%20Horario%20RPA08.pdf

Entry list? Do you know some news of pilots?

Bye

Thank you dperez, but i'm looking for more detailed maps of the stages, so i can make them in Google Earth and my gps-system. This is coming from the official site, but they are not enough detail for my purpose. Do you know where i can find these kind of maps?

principe IRC
5th August 2008, 00:02
Does anybody have detailed maps of the stages, or stages in Google Earth or gpx-file? I would like to visit the event this year and it would be great help to me to plan my rally. If you don't want it to be put on the web, you can send me personal mail or contact me trough ICQ. Thanks in advance. ;)


The rally repeat stages of the 2007 edition, with the exception of the stage A changing of direction. Here are the entrances and areas of interest

http://http://www.rallyeprincipe.com/2007eng/publico.htm


D. Sordo commented on a local radio station 2 months ago that would possibly drive zero car. The car is a mystery.

Alberto Hevia run with a S2000 (With a rented car or as a possible pilot BF Goodrich).
Sergio Vallejo possibly change its porsche by an S2000 for this rally.

Other rumor http://http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1291&Itemid=1

wwbroe
5th August 2008, 00:13
The rally repeat stages of the 2007 edition, with the exception of the stage A changing of direction. Here are the entrances and areas of interest

http://http://www.rallyeprincipe.com/2007eng/publico.htm


D. Sordo commented on a local radio station 2 months ago that would possibly drive zero car. The car is a mystery.

Alberto Hevia run with a S2000 (With a rented car or as a possible pilot BF Goodrich).
Sergio Vallejo possibly change its porsche by an S2000 for this rally.

Other rumor http://http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1291&Itemid=1

Thanks for that, but the links you gave me doesn't seem to work, or is it just me? ;)

wwbroe
5th August 2008, 01:09
Ok, i saw what was wrong with the links, it is working now. Thanks for the info, i will see what i can do with it. ;)

karlzoro
7th August 2008, 13:54
So wwbroe are you goinig to Asturias??
Are you going with car or airplane to Asturia??

wwbroe
7th August 2008, 14:38
So wwbroe are you goinig to Asturias??
Are you going with car or airplane to Asturia??

Yes Kevin, i will be going there, and i will be going by airplane. You will be there also?

karlzoro
7th August 2008, 15:45
Yes Kevin, i will be going there, and i will be going by airplane. You will be there also?

Normally I won't be there, but I if possible I would go, but my vacation days....
I had a look yesterday on a mpa: is there a airport near the rallycenter? We thought that it would be interrsting to take the airplane to Pau (France) and then rent a car to go to the rally....
When do you leave? And where do you arrive with the airplane?

Madeira
12th August 2008, 18:12
According the portuguese Website Ralis.online.pt Bruno Magalhães will be present in the Rally Principe de Asturias. I hope a little bit more luck for Bruno this time!

Tom206wrc
12th August 2008, 20:21
How many drivers on the Kronos/BFGoodrich driver entrylist ?? Any names ?? :confused:

ste898
12th August 2008, 21:41
Sounds like its gonna be a great event

principe IRC
12th August 2008, 23:01
How many drivers on the Kronos/BFGoodrich driver entrylist ?? Any names ?? :confused:


While there is no official communication on the entrylist.
Some rumours say they can be on that list A. Hevia, S. Vallejo, J. Puras, X. Pons, M. Muniente, S. Canellas, Oriol Gomez, etc.At the moment are only rumours.

:( Another rumor is that Sergio Perez after the strong accident in Rallye de Ferrol can not take his Fiat Punto S2000, and instead run in Rallye Principe de Asturias with a Citroen C2 S1600 that used in regional rallyes

Tom206wrc
13th August 2008, 09:52
While there is no official communication on the entrylist.
Some rumours say they can be on that list A. Hevia, S. Vallejo, J. Puras, X. Pons, M. Muniente, S. Canellas, Oriol Gomez, etc.At the moment are only rumours.
...




I hope for Sergio Vallejo to get the BFG drive in this case :)

wwbroe
13th August 2008, 10:45
I hope for Sergio Vallejo to get the BFG drive in this case :)

That would be good, but my bets are on Jesus Puras for the BF Goodrich drive in Principe de Asturias. ;)

[Madeira-Rally]
13th August 2008, 11:33
I heard some rumours that BF cars should be to a driver that isn't running at the moment... so

-Puras
-Cannellas
-Gomez
-Climent

should be the strongest cadidates... I think

principe IRC
13th August 2008, 21:27
:( :( http://alojamentos19.com/~ralis/percebfontes08.html (http://alojamentos19.com/~ralis/percebfontes08.html)

CricketsFilm
19th August 2008, 14:15
We'll be to Oviedo from tuesday to Sunday.... first time

Eyvind
19th August 2008, 15:59
First entries at www.rallyeprincipe.com (http://www.rallyeprincipe.com)

Mario Sotero Carrete - 206 XS
Marcos Barquin Diego - 206 RC R3
Luca Griotti - Clio R3
Jonathan Pérez - Mitsubishi Evo IX
Juan Manuel Casares - Mitsubishi Evo IX
Miguel Fuster - Fiat S-2000
Giandomenico Basso - Fiat S-2000
Anton Alen - Fiat S-2000
Eloy Entrecanales - Porsche 911 GT3
Climent Domingo - 206 XS
Carlos Márquez Ron - Mitsubishi Evo IX
Esteban Vallín - 206 XS
Iván Ares - 206 XS

Eyvind
20th August 2008, 16:50
We'll be to Oviedo from tuesday to Sunday.... first time

You come with some Italian driver? :rolleyes:

M.S.
20th August 2008, 18:49
Anybody know something about MG?Ttey are going to R. de Astúrias?

Spanish people:Llanera is a good place to stay?Thanks

Eyvind
21st August 2008, 08:16
To M.S: Yes, is a good place. ;)

New entries:
Bruno Magalhaes - Peugeot 207 S2000
Aaron Burkart - Citroen C2 S1600
Alberto Monarri - Peugeot 206 XS
Victor Senra - Peugeot 206 XS
Aquilino Sanchez - Suzuki Swift
Aitor Fernandez - Suzuki Swift
Viti Pardeiro - Suzuki Swift
Mario Zullo - Suzuki Swift

karlzoro
21st August 2008, 19:12
Burkart also in Asturias :D I found him already impressive here in Ypres
So, any news about Meeke??? There were some rumours about that, just like there were/are rumours about the MG....??

Eyvind
21st August 2008, 20:34
Burkart was also in Asturias last year

He already know these stages :cool:

Tom206wrc
26th August 2008, 01:21
No more entries at that date??? :confused:

Eyvind
26th August 2008, 10:28
The latest update of last Friday
They are all Spaniards

Alberto Hernán - Nissan 350Z
Miguel Arias - 206 XS (Fast local driver)
Jairo Álvarez - 206 XS
Raúl Quesada - 206 XS (from Canary islands)
Miguel Angel Blanco - Suzuki Swift

I hope that today there are new entries on the Web ;)

Tom206wrc
26th August 2008, 10:33
S2000 drivers aren't numerous to quickly register it seems :mark:

Tom206wrc
26th August 2008, 14:39
Luca Rossetti said after Barum he won't be at Principe de Asturias :(

PLuto
26th August 2008, 16:29
Yes, I was talking to him and he told, he will start only on Sanremo and in ERC campaing on Antibes.

[Madeira-Rally]
26th August 2008, 17:23
He won't start because Rally Costa Smralda is in the same weekend...

Tom206wrc
26th August 2008, 17:43
Yes, I was talking to him and he told, he will start only on Sanremo and in ERC campaing on Antibes.



Fantastic if Rossetti is present at Antibes !!! :D

Eyvind
26th August 2008, 22:24
More entries...

Joan Vinyes - Renault Clio R3
Fran Cima - Renault Clio R3
Sergio Lopez-Fombona - Nissan 350 Z
Ruben Gracia - Nissan 350 Z
Yeray Lemes - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX
Pedro M. Garcia -Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX
Roberto Reiriz - Subaru Impreza N14
Emilio Segura - Peugeot 206 XS
Angel Perez - Peugeot 206 XS
F.J. Bachiller - Peugeot 206 XS
Gorka Antxustegui - Suzuki Swift
Jorge Gonzalez - Suzuki Swift
Cristian Belsa - Suzuki Swift

Madeira
26th August 2008, 23:20
Fantastic if Rossetti is present at Antibes !!! :D

So it means that Renato Travaglia will be there too...(Antibes)

Eyvind
27th August 2008, 08:33
Rossetti needs to be in Antibes to have the minimum of 6 races in the ERC.

Tom206wrc
27th August 2008, 09:04
OK let's go back to Asturias news, it's not Antibes thread here ;)

Tom206wrc
27th August 2008, 13:10
Is it true Dani Sola stops IRC/S2000 program :confused:

PLuto
27th August 2008, 14:27
Is it true Dani Sola stops IRC/S2000 program :confused:

Yes, it is true. He stopped before Madeira. He thought to start on some other events, but not whole IRC. He was thinking about home event Principe Asturias and Sanremo, but we will see...

Tom206wrc
27th August 2008, 16:29
And what about Corrado Fontana :confused:

He missed several events of ERC(Madeira, Barum)and will run this week-end in a rally ronde with a 206 wrc(Grifone??)...not in a Grande Punto

Eyvind
27th August 2008, 22:07
Nicolas Vouilloz - 207 S2000
Freddy Loix - 207 S2000
Enrique García Ojeda - 207 S2000
Luis Monzón - 207 S2000
Óscar Garre Rio - 207 S2000
Dani Solà - Punto S2000
Alberto Hevia - Lancer Evo IX
Rubén Ojea - 206 XS
Arturo Acitores - 206 XS

wwbroe
27th August 2008, 22:34
Nicolas Vouilloz - 207 S2000
Freddy Loix - 207 S2000
Enrique García Ojeda - 207 S2000
Luis Monzón - 207 S2000
Óscar Garre Rio - 207 S2000
Dani Solà - Punto S2000
Alberto Hevia - Lancer Evo IX
Rubén Ojea - 206 XS
Arturo Acitores - 206 XS

Hey Eyvind, do you have by any means coordinates of start and finish-places of the stages? Thanks.

CricketsFilm
27th August 2008, 23:09
And what about Corrado Fontana :confused:

He missed several events of ERC(Madeira, Barum)and will run this week-end in a rally ronde with a 206 wrc(Grifone??)...not in a Grande Punto

Fontana will drives in Rally di Como, Rally Antibes and Monza Rally Show... with new Peugeot 207 S2000.

.... and this week to Rally Valcavargna with his Peugeot 206 Wrc "Grifone"

principe IRC
28th August 2008, 16:47
Entrylist BF Goodrich - Kronos

NombreTerritorialNombreTerritorialAlberto FernándezAndalucíaJosep BasolsCataluñaManuel RuedaAndalucíaXavier PonsCataluñaAlberto HeviaAsturiasBorja AguadoEuskadiCarlos MárquezAsturiasAntón PérezGaliciaIgnacio BrañaAsturiasÁlvaro MuñizGaliciaJairo ÁlvarezAsturiasAmador VidalGaliciaJonathan PérezAsturiasLuis VilariñoGaliciaMiguel ÁriasAsturiasPedro BurgoGaliciaEsteban VallínAsturiasRuben OjeaGaliciaPedro Fermín BenítezCanariasSergio VallejoGaliciaRoberto NegrínCanariasVictor SenraGaliciaVictor DelgadoCanariasGonzalo Martín de AndrésMadridYeray LemesCanariasNacho GabariMadridJonathan CaboCantabriaGuillermo VillanuevaMadridJonathan de MiguelCantabriaRafael VillanuevaMadridMarcos BarquinCantabriaAlberto MonarriMadridAlfredo SalCastilla y LeónJulián VeraMadridDavid NafríaCataluñaIsaac VeraMadridJoan VinyesCataluñaMarta SuriaValenciaJordi MartíCataluña

"Prior to the competition, BFGoodrich and Kronos draw up a list of five teams preselected. Voting by secret written On September 5, 2008, BFGoodrich and Kronos will gather a panel of national journalists to nominate the team that will have the opportunity to lead the Peugeot 207 Super 2000 Rally in the Prince of Asturias. The team chosen to participate in the Rally Prince of Asturias IRC with the same colors of BFGoodrich / Kronos that the other two runners of the team, Freddy Loix and Nicolas Vouilloz, who also lead a Peugeot 207 Super 2000. On September 8 will take place a day of testing in Spain to help the team to familiarize themselves with the Peugeot 207, the range of BFGoodrich tires and composition of the Kronos team, which will deal with the best preparation possible this Rallye Principe de Asturias. Journalists who have nominated the national team will be invited to attend this test session. "

principe IRC
28th August 2008, 17:05
Entrylist BF Goodrich - Kronos

Alberto Fernández /Andalucía
Manuel Rueda /Andalucía
Alberto Hevia /Asturias
Carlos Márquez /Asturias
Ignacio Braña /Asturias
Jairo Álvarez /Asturias
Jonathan Pérez /Asturias
Miguel Árias /Asturias
Esteban Vallín /Asturias
Pedro Fermín Benítez /Canarias
Roberto Negrín /Canarias
Victor Delgado /Canarias
Yeray Lemes /Canarias
Jonathan Cabo /Cantabria
Jonathan de Miguel /Cantabria
Marcos Barquin /Cantabria
Alfredo Sal /Castilla y León
David Nafría /Cataluña
Joan Vinyes /Cataluña
Jordi Martí /Cataluña
Josep Basols /Cataluña
Xavi Pons /Cataluña
Borja Aguado /Euskadi
Anton Perez /Galicia
Alvaro Muñiz /Galicia
Amador Vidal /Galicia
Luis Vilariño /Galicia
Pedro Burgo /Galicia
Ruben Ojea /Galicia
Sergio Vallejo /Galicia
Victor Senra /Galicia
Gonzalo Martin de Andres /Madrid
Nacho Gabari /Madrid
Guillermo Villanueva /Madrid
Rafael Villanueva /Madrid
Alberto Monarri / Madrid
Julian Vera /Madrid
Isaac Vera /Madrid
Marta Suria /Valencia

"Prior to the competition, BFGoodrich and Kronos draw up a list of five teams preselected. Voting by secret written On September 5, 2008, BFGoodrich and Kronos will gather a panel of national journalists to nominate the team that will have the opportunity to lead the Peugeot 207 Super 2000 Rally in the Prince of Asturias. The team chosen to participate in the Rally Prince of Asturias IRC with the same colors of BFGoodrich / Kronos that the other two runners of the team, Freddy Loix and Nicolas Vouilloz, who also lead a Peugeot 207 Super 2000. On September 8 will take place a day of testing in Spain to help the team to familiarize themselves with the Peugeot 207, the range of BFGoodrich tires and composition of the Kronos team, which will deal with the best preparation possible this Rallye Principe de Asturias. Journalists who have nominated the national team will be invited to attend this test session. "

PLuto
28th August 2008, 17:13
Bad news for spanish friends - it looks that Skoda Fabia S2000 wont start in Asturias.

polo10
28th August 2008, 17:48
Bad news for spanish friends - it looks that Skoda Fabia S2000 wont start in Asturias.

Why you say that , pluto?...and in Sanremo?

PLuto
28th August 2008, 21:57
Why you say that , pluto?...and in Sanremo?

I dont know, if there were any plans to start in Sanremo.

Eyvind
28th August 2008, 22:24
Tlustak will come? Do you have any information Pluto?

To wwbroe: I don't have coordinates of the stages. Sorry.

wwbroe
28th August 2008, 23:36
Tlustak will come? Do you have any information Pluto?

To wwbroe: I don't have coordinates of the stages. Sorry.

Thanks anyhow Eyvind, if you hear anything can you let me know? ;)

Eyvind
29th August 2008, 07:36
Angel Domenech - Lancer Evo IX
Alessandro Bettega - Honda Civic R3
Francisco Pardo - Subaru N14
Diego Pinilla - Suzuki Swift
Esteban Nuñez - Suzuki Swift

PLuto
29th August 2008, 12:09
Tlustak will come? Do you have any information Pluto?

To wwbroe: I don't have coordinates of the stages. Sorry.

No, it is definitive, Tlustak wont come. Maybe next year...

Eyvind
29th August 2008, 13:11
Thanks Pluto! ;)

Tom206wrc
29th August 2008, 13:38
Would be great if Bryan Bouffier could come to this event after his brilliant Barum !!! :)

PLuto
29th August 2008, 14:57
Would be great if Bryan Bouffier could come to this event after his brilliant Barum !!! :)

It would be but it is impossible. You dont know how difficult was to arrange his start on Barum...

katxal
29th August 2008, 17:03
and what about Toth???

Eyvind
30th August 2008, 12:18
Sergio Vallejo - Porsche 911 GT3
Pedro Burgo - Lancer Evo IX
Carlos Oliveira (P) - Subaru Impreza N14
Roberto Blach - Clio R3
Marco Cavigioli (I) - Fiat Punto JTD
Jaume Barceló - Suzuki Swift
Angel Luis Romo - Suzuki Swift
Benjamín Avella - Suzuki Swift
Marc Jiménez - Suzuki Swift

Tom206wrc
30th August 2008, 12:25
Sergio Vallejo with the Porsche ??? So he hadn't been chosen for the BFGoodrich drive ??? :confused:

Eyvind
30th August 2008, 13:47
The choice of BF Goodrich driver will take place on September 5

Vallejo can change his car if necessary, as well as Hevia or Burgo...

Tom206wrc
1st September 2008, 08:21
When is official entrylist published ??? :confused:

Tom206wrc
2nd September 2008, 09:58
New entries ??? :confused:

pucky54
2nd September 2008, 10:15
no, still dated on August 29th

Tom206wrc
3rd September 2008, 09:30
I write here the link to the provisionnal entrylist ;)

http://www.rallyeprincipe.com/2008news/inscritos/2008inscritos.htm

Eyvind
3rd September 2008, 20:27
Italian driver Manuel Villa, Fiat Punto S-1600, will be present in Asturias.

Tom206wrc
3rd September 2008, 22:04
Not many S2000s on entry until now :confused:

Tom206wrc
4th September 2008, 12:13
The choice of BF Goodrich driver will take place on September 5

Vallejo can change his car if necessary, as well as Hevia or Burgo...



Can't wait for tomorrow :bounce:

wwbroe
5th September 2008, 10:37
No news about BF Goodrich drive yet? By the way, anybody who is interested in the special stages (in Google Earth) can contact me trough PM. ;)

PuddleJumper
5th September 2008, 11:17
I've seen the provisional entry list, but does anyone know when the full entry list is published?

Tom206wrc
5th September 2008, 12:00
Yeah good question...who has been chosen for the BFG drive ???? :confused:

Eyvind
5th September 2008, 15:48
Yeah good question...who has been chosen for the BFG drive ???? :confused:

Sergio Vallejo

Eyvind
5th September 2008, 15:49
I've seen the provisional entry list, but does anyone know when the full entry list is published?

Tomorrow

Tom206wrc
5th September 2008, 15:53
Sergio Vallejo




THAT WAS MY CHOICE !!!!! :up:


:D

principe IRC
5th September 2008, 16:10
This was the final vote

S.Vallejo 6 points

Y.Lemes 6 " "

A.Monarri 2 " "

X.Pons 2 " "

V.Senra 1 " "

In the final tiebreaker

S.Vallejo 9 Points

Y.Lemes 8 " "

Tom206wrc
5th September 2008, 16:16
Strange that Jesus Puras wasn't among the finalists, though :confused:

Eyvind
5th September 2008, 16:19
Puras? He wasn't on the list of candidates :rolleyes:

Tom206wrc
5th September 2008, 16:33
I thought he was...my mistake :mark:

RS
5th September 2008, 20:48
Surprised Pons did not do better, is he not very popular or is Vallejo genuinly quicker?

Vilkavainen
6th September 2008, 01:19
Surprised Pons did not do better, is he not very popular or is Vallejo genuinly quicker?

Probably, the most logical decision will be giving the car to Pons, due to his WRC experience.

Now they have given the chance to some other driver and let´s see if can fight with all the other main contenders with a totally different car to the Porsche that he usually drives in the Spanish Championship. Really I don´t expect that Vallejo would be quicker than Pons.

Tom206wrc
6th September 2008, 09:31
At what time today full entrylist is published ??? :confused:

Eyvind
6th September 2008, 10:03
7:00 p.m.

wwbroe
6th September 2008, 10:09
Yes, that is right, it should be published at 19h00 this evening. Looking forward to it, but i don't think there will be too much surprises on it will there? ;) We will leave to Asturias on coming wednesday. Looking forward to a rally that i have never visited before. Hope we will have great rally again, but i guess the entrylist won't be as good as in Barum. :D

Tom206wrc
6th September 2008, 12:50
7:00 p.m.



Thanks ;)

Tom206wrc
6th September 2008, 18:55
Entrylist should be published in a few minutes, now !!! :)

Tom206wrc
6th September 2008, 18:56
Entrylist PUBLISHED !!!!! :D



Edit: 60 entries + 5 GTs ;)

Eyvind
6th September 2008, 19:15
Link:
http://www.rallyeprincipe.com/2008docs/Lista%20Oficial%20de%20Inscritos.pdf

Sulland
6th September 2008, 19:55
11 S2000 cars, is that as expected ?

PuddleJumper
6th September 2008, 21:45
Link:
http://www.rallyeprincipe.com/2008docs/Lista%20Oficial%20de%20Inscritos.pdf
Thank you! :up:

PORSCHE TEAM
7th September 2008, 11:19
Blog of Nupel Porsche Team Spain (driver: Sergio Vallejo)

http://vallejoracing.wordpress.com

;)

karlzoro
8th September 2008, 19:29
Is Oscar Garre quicker than Ojeda?? I thought he was in the begin of the season... :confused:
Can Fuster follow the Pug's in the Spanish Chamionship?
Is the Punto of Sola one of Grifone??? Or from an other team????

urabus-denoS2000
8th September 2008, 19:36
Is the Punto of Sola one of Grifone??? Or from an other team????

Probably from Procar

Mirek
8th September 2008, 19:58
Procar? But Sola ended his cooperation with Procar earlier in the season...

Tom206wrc
8th September 2008, 20:06
Is Oscar Garre quicker than Ojeda?? I thought he was in the begin of the season... :confused:
...



Until now I didn't see him performing better than Ojeda nor Monzon !!! :mark:

Tom206wrc
8th September 2008, 20:08
By the way I hope Garcia Ojeda's 207 is reliable now, I remember he often retired this year in spanish championship because of the engine... :confused:

katxal
8th September 2008, 22:20
Is Oscar Garre quicker than Ojeda?? I thought he was in the begin of the season... :confused:
Can Fuster follow the Pug's in the Spanish Chamionship?
Is the Punto of Sola one of Grifone??? Or from an other team????

lots of questions...hehe...
No, for sure Garre is not faster than Ojeda. This year official Peugeot Spain team is having lots of problems with his car. This season ojeda retired 2 times leading the rallye in a very confortable position...
Fuster is fast but i think his car is not as fast as pugs...for sure monzon is not the fastest now but has got a lot of experience and most of times this is better than being too fast :D .
and i dont know yet the team for sola.

principe IRC
9th September 2008, 00:14
Video of the test Sergio Vallejo Peugeot-Kronos

http://www.jr-rallye.net/modules.php?name=Video_Stream&page=watch&id=142&d=1

Tom206wrc
9th September 2008, 12:09
Thanks Principe IRC :)

principe IRC
9th September 2008, 16:03
The first teams have begun to arrive this morning to servicepark

http://images.torrentmove.com/ie/dsc07185800x600].jpg

http://images.torrentmove.com/iv/dsc07172800x600].jpg

http://images.torrentmove.com/ih/dsc07190800x600].jpg

http://images.torrentmove.com/ie/dsc07188800x600].jpg

Tom206wrc
9th September 2008, 16:36
Thanks for the pics Principe IRC :up:

karlzoro
9th September 2008, 19:50
I know, a lot of questions :p : ...
I thought I heard that Garre beat Ojeda a few times in the begin of the season....
Monzon? So he's used tot the car then? Or is it just a "IRC 1 shot" with the 207?? I thought he drove a GT...
I don't find any "good" info about the Spanish Championship, at least not in English :D
I'm surprised that Hevia isn't in a S2000...I'm looking forward to see his performance...
I asked if the Punto of Sola is from Grifone because I also thought he broke with Procar...or was it just €€€'s??? He anounced that he wasn't happy with the team after Russia...

Thanks a lot for answering my questions...

Tom206wrc
9th September 2008, 20:36
Luis Monzon drives the 207 since the start of spanish championship, and is even leading it ;)

So yes he's used to the S2000 now :p :

wwbroe
9th September 2008, 22:35
Hey Karlzoro, a lot of questions, but Tom allready gave you an answer concerning Monzon who is indeed leading the Spanish championship, also because Ojeda had some technical problems in a few rallys before. I hope his car will be allright this time, so that he will be capable to fight for victory. I am not sure about Sola's Punto, but normally it will be one of Procar, alltough he said that he don't want to drive for them anymore.
I don't think that Garre will be able to fight with the "big" boys, alltough you never know, but he wasn't quicker then Ojeda when this last one didn't meet any problems. I think that Monzon and Fuster will both be quicker then Garre. Also i don't know what to expect from Vallejo, but i guess he will need some time to adapt to the S2000 car.
We will be leaving tomorrow for Asturias, i will try to put some of our experiences on the forum, at least when i find a little time to do that. ;)

CricketsFilm
9th September 2008, 23:59
We are to Oviedo... fantastic place...tomorrow morning we'll start the work....

jure dvorsek
10th September 2008, 14:25
Sola's Punto is still from Procar (read http://www.procar.it). My question is about Sergio Vallejo-how will he do in S2000 car? I think, he should be close to the top, he is very, very fast in P911 GT3RS. What will be his coments after race (compare Porsche to Peugeot).

principe IRC
10th September 2008, 14:38
Teams continue to arrive

http://images.torrentmove.com/ik/dsc07205800x600].jpg

http://images.torrentmove.com/ix/dsc07212800x600].jpg

http://images.torrentmove.com/ik/dsc07222800x600].jpg

Tom206wrc
10th September 2008, 16:52
Can't wait the rally to start :bounce:

jonas_mcrae
10th September 2008, 19:17
damn! those S2000 really look good in tarmac spec!

Tom206wrc
11th September 2008, 08:26
Please if you have news and times from shakedown post them in this thread ;)

Tom206wrc
11th September 2008, 13:54
No news about shakedown yet ???? :confused:

HaCo
11th September 2008, 17:11
No shakedown times anywhere?

HaCo
11th September 2008, 17:24
First news coming in, but no times: http://www.pitstoptv.info/pitstop/?p=5844

VERY wet shakedown, drivers testing new BFG compounds... ;)

Tom206wrc
11th September 2008, 17:28
Thanks Haco ;) although I don't understand dutch language :p :

Eyvind
11th September 2008, 18:05
Shakedown pics
http://www.cuencascompeticion.com/Imagenes/Anio08/Shakedown%20Principe/index.htm

Tom206wrc
11th September 2008, 21:23
Thanks Eyvind ;)

wwbroe
11th September 2008, 21:40
We were at shakedown this morning, it was indeed incredible wet with lot of rainshowers. We were completely wet till the bones. I took some times myself, we were close to finish line. In my opinion it was Loix and Vouilloz who were the fastests men around, directly at first passage and they improved theyre times on second and third run. After them it was Ogeda and Monzon, with Vallejo not doing so well, but again the conditions were really very difficult. Rest of the day we were out at the stages to do some recce for tomorrow and saturday. The stages look a lot like San Remo in my honoust opinion. They anoounce some more rain tomorrow morning, so let's wait and see. The shakedown was not really representative for the stages, so we will see tomorrow who will be in front. Now we will have some beers and go to sleep in time because tomorrow it is early day. ;)

corolla wrc.
12th September 2008, 06:59
With this link you can watch te stage times and split times :

http://www.masrallye.com/principeastur/08/online/index.asp

I am not sure that the split times work

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 07:18
SS1 has normally started ;)

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 07:22
Basso and Loix lost about 1 minute over Vouilloz on a short stage(7km) :eek:

FAlonso
12th September 2008, 07:30
Maybe wrong tires or something? Might be raining I don´t know... Very nice time from Bruno on this stage! I hope luck is on his side this weekend! Vouilloz has already gained a huge margin over his closest competition. Bring on SS2!

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 07:32
Hevia on his GrN is 2nd fastest on SS1 between S2000s(behind Vouilloz but in front of Magalhaes, Monzon,...) :D

FAlonso
12th September 2008, 07:33
I think it must be wet then. Can anyone confirm this?

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 07:35
Also note Anton Alen was the fastest of the Grande Punto drivers on this stage ;)

FAlonso
12th September 2008, 07:39
Next stage should give us a clearer picture. it´s the longest in the rally (30km).

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 07:43
I hope the split times will work well for SS2 :rolleyes:

secalez
12th September 2008, 07:59
The 45 edition of the Rallye Prince of Asturias, began with the celebration of Shakedown, which runs through the road linking the town of Peñadrada (Pruvia, Llanera) and Robledo (Lugo, Llanera). A stretch of about 3 kilometres in which, despite the rain, she cites a large number of spectators to follow the developments of the 63 drivers entered in the trial, which is puntuable for the first time for the IRC (Intercontinental Rally Challenge).

More than 70 photos in http://www.lacuneta.net

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 07:59
Finally split times don't seem to work :mad:

FAlonso
12th September 2008, 08:04
yes seems like it unfortunatlly...

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 08:09
Results SS1 disappeared on MasRallyes website :confused:

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 08:29
Results SS2 ??? :confused:

Wim_Impreza
12th September 2008, 08:29
It seems the roads are very broad, just as in Rally Catalunya. No real rallyroads :(

FAlonso
12th September 2008, 08:29
I still have results for SS1. However, something must have happened to cause this delay. Don´t know if this is only a problem with the online timing system or the rally itself...

Wim_Impreza
12th September 2008, 08:31
Tom, the second special stage is cancelled due too much public. Source: http://www.pitstop.tv/ (only in Dutch language).

Yes, on SS1 there was rain and Basso drove a 4'53"1 and no 5'53"1, a fault from the timing. So, Basso is leading in front of Vouilloz!

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 08:34
Ok... ;)

Wim_Impreza
12th September 2008, 08:38
The time from Loix was 4'59"3, again a fault from the timing. Loix is third overall.

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 09:12
Therefore http://www.ircseries.com HAS CONFIRMED Basso and Loix lost about 1 minutes on SS1 :confused:

Who's right who's wrong... :rolleyes:

chryby
12th September 2008, 09:15
tom, official results
http://www.masrallye.com/principeastur/08/online/online.asp?c=0&t=1
are after correction

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 09:21
Thanks Chryby :)

Shame on the official IRC website which goes like the WRC one :mad:

RS
12th September 2008, 10:07
Any ideas how you see the live internet tv? Do you have to pay for the Eurosport player now?

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 10:25
Alessandro Bettega retired before SS3 :(

By the way, SS3 should be on its way now...

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 10:54
We can say Fiat is dominating Peugeot for now, thanks to Giando' Basso ;)

Light improvement for Vallejo(12th after SS1, 10th after SS3) and Ojeda...

Hevia still 4th overall leading the traditional GrN class...

On the opposite Monzon and especially Garre lost positions :mark:

I hope SS4 won't be cancelled like SS2 :confused:

chryby
12th September 2008, 11:05
i think, anton alen is still going very well too ;)

Luis Pacheco
12th September 2008, 11:15
Live radio:
http://www.copeasturias.com/imagenes/directo.png (http://www.copeasturias.com/imagenes/directo.png)
http://www.copeasturias.com

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 11:22
Firs split(SS4) available for Vouilloz and Loix...

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 11:30
Where's Bruno Magalhaes on SS4 ??? :confused:

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 11:38
Vouilloz new leader, and Basso almost lost 2nd position in front of Fast Freddy ;)

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 12:05
SS5 running...

Luis Pacheco
12th September 2008, 12:07
Magalhães stops at the beginning of the fourth stage with a strange noise in the engine.

Luis Pacheco
12th September 2008, 12:12
Magalhães stops at the beginning of the fourth stage with a strange noise in the engine. He prefer to stop to not broke the engine.

Luis Pacheco
12th September 2008, 12:19
Dani Sola with engine problems.

Mirek
12th September 2008, 12:48
Again and again... Procar + Sola = engine troubles :(

Wim_Impreza
12th September 2008, 12:54
But he is not (much) slower at the moment.

quimrally
12th September 2008, 12:55
It's a pitty that Bruno Magalhaes retired. The Peugeot Sport Portugal is one of the most professional teams in Europe (the "boss" Carlos Barros used to work with the oficial team in the times of Jean Todt and de Group B cars, and the prototypes series for Le Mans). They have a supreme domination in the national championship, but in the IRC rallys it's seems like all the bad luck stricks the team. At this point he could have 2 podiums (Portugal Madeira) and perhaps 2 wins.

Wim_Impreza
12th September 2008, 13:00
My opinion is that Magalhaes isn't good enough for a win in the IRC.

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 13:06
So after SS5 Vouilloz is leading for 17s and teammate Loix for 22s... ;)

FAlonso
12th September 2008, 13:21
My opinion is that Magalhaes isn't good enough for a win in the IRC.


It´s an opinon and I respect that. But if he had half the opportunities (or money, simply put) guys like Vouilloz, Basso, not to mention Loix have had then maybe you would see it differently. I know it´s all "if's" and "but´s" but the truth is that the guy has been given 5 opportunites to prove himself on the IRC (Madeira and Sanremo last year, Portugal, Madeira and now). He messed up, very slightly it must be said, in Portugal fair enough. But even then he lucked out by not having spectator help which could have turned a 3m loss into to 30sec one. The other 4 rallys were lost by circunstances outside his control. In every one he proved he could run at the top (even doing respectable times in Sanremo which was his first rally outside Portugal). That´s why I think your claim isn´t very fair. But, as i said, it is your opinion, ok.

Wim_Impreza
12th September 2008, 13:40
I know he has much speed, but I think his problem is that he made a big mistake or a small mistake in IRC rallies or had a technical problem. He seems a bit unlucky, but I know too that he won all the rallies from your national championship this year until now. I hope he would be again in the IRC in the future, with more luck and hopefully with more budget to run more international rallies.

quimrally
12th September 2008, 15:53
SS6

Vouilloz extend his lead to 19,6 seconds over basso
Dani Solá still on the corse, and doing a nice time with punto, maybe solved his problems.

Anton Alen doing worst and losing some positions... now 9th place.

HaCo
12th September 2008, 16:33
Sola doing well.

Loix loses 19secs over Vouilloz, Basso gains 2 secs. I hope Basso can get to Vouilloz and beat the Pug! :D

quimrally
12th September 2008, 16:40
SS7

Fiat squad doing a nice stage
Basso won it, and reduce in 2.2 seconds for Vouilloz.
Dani Solá does less 28 seconds than ojeda and passes to 4th.
Alen does better that direct rivals Vallejo and Monzon and wins 2 places to do 7th.

Tom206wrc
12th September 2008, 18:32
I'm surprised all the Grande Puntos outpaced all the 207s in the SS7(26km long) :confused:

Different selection of tyres compounds between Abarth and Peugeot ????

HaCo
12th September 2008, 19:02
I'm surprised all the Grande Puntos outpaced all the 207s in the SS7(26km long) :confused:

Different selection of tyres compounds between Abarth and Peugeot ????

In Madeira Basso was as fast as Vouilloz as well, maybe the Punto is not as slow as we sometimes think. It was just not reliable this year unfortunately. Can't wait until Skoda joins as well. :D

HaCo
12th September 2008, 19:28
Vouilloz 12 secs slower than first pass... tire choice probably crucial. Loix 3 secs faster on first split.

corolla wrc.
12th September 2008, 19:39
Loix is the fastest on ss8 :)
Basso 2
voulloiz 3 +8.9sec

Mirek
12th September 2008, 20:28
Great fight. After leg 1 Basso and Vouilloz have same time!

wwbroe
12th September 2008, 23:55
Hey guys, we just came home in hotel. We were at service and had a chat with Freddy Loix. He was fastest on last two stages, but lost some time before at the first run trough the 26 kms stage (7-9) because of a little off he had. On the last two stages he was on slick M, while Vouilloz was on W and Basso also on M but rain tyre. We saw eight out of the nine stages so we had a good day, with nice fight for first three places. Unfortunally Spanish drivers were never in the right rythm to fight with the front-runners. We had a lot off rain, especially in the morning stages. It was rather difficult to make the right tyre-choice, because of changing conditions all the time.
Tomorrow they are announcing a little bit better weather, so i think it will stay dry most of the time. We will see what will be the fight for the win, but i guess it will be exciting. Tomorrow we will try to see five out of the six remaining stages. ;)

Sulland
13th September 2008, 10:16
What has happened on 11 ? Basso in clear lead !

Luis Pacheco
13th September 2008, 10:24
Sola is out.

CEORacingLions
13th September 2008, 10:41
Basso in long stages is one of the best in the world.

He can maintain high rates since the beginning until the end of stages.

Power time on SS11.

HaCo
13th September 2008, 10:46
Loix had an off on SS11 and lost 30secs, on SS12 he loses another 30secs. Is he in trouble? Basso ahead of Vouilloz with 20secs, I hope Abarth can take it to the finnish!

CEORacingLions
13th September 2008, 10:50
Under normal conditions victory for Basso.

I think it's impossible now for Nico take him.

Madeira
13th September 2008, 10:58
Sola is out.

He had a crash!

Madeira
13th September 2008, 11:01
Under normal conditions victory for Basso.

I think it's impossible now for Nico take him.

Yes and I guess that Vouilloz do no not want to take some risks. He has a good advantage in the championship..

Abarth
13th September 2008, 15:49
And Abarth takes the first victory of the season !!!

Congrat to Basso and Abarth !!

Keep on pushing !

urabus-denoS2000
13th September 2008, 16:13
Go Abarth!!! :up:
Finally a win ;) ;) ;)

Congratulations to Basso,a great drive!!!!!!

Take that,Pug fans!!! ;)

Mirek
13th September 2008, 16:18
Congrats to Basso! Great job :)

Salist
13th September 2008, 19:09
Pictures???

wwbroe
13th September 2008, 19:24
Hello guys, just back in hotel and preparing to go out to celibrate podium, unfortunally is isn't first place, but hey, we will be celibrating anyhow. Freddy had an off at stage 11 this morning, because the power steering broke down. He was lucky to escape there, because he fell down on another road that was just a few meters down. He did stage 12 without power-steering also, so the fight for him was over.
We did all stages today, and saw a very nice battle for victory once more. Basso made the difference this morning, and alltough he made a mistake in stage 13, Voullioz wasn't able to counter his times. I was surprised that Spanish drivers weren't able to fight for victory. They were way behind, alltough they should know the stages well. A part from first stage off rally, all stages were the same as last year.
Vallejo was very spectacular but not so efficient. He has not the good style for driving a S2000 car, but he did good rasult after all. Sola went off this morning and Garre, who restarted under superrally, also went off.
Now i am going to drink some beers, eat something, and then start drinking a lot of beers. ;)

N.O.T
14th September 2008, 03:30
Vuilloz is now the favourite for the championship.....Basso still has his home event though and other strong italian entries can take points away from Nicolas so it can turn interesting still.

HaCo
14th September 2008, 10:24
If you take away the two worst results you get:
Vouilloz 42 (with 4 points his worst, good season for the Frenchman! If he gets a DNF he can use the 4 points to compensate. So imagine Voullioz DNF, he would have 46, Basso wins het get 42 or Loix wins 44, so it would be nice for the championship ;) )
Loix 34
Basso 32
Rosetti 32

Eyvind
14th September 2008, 10:43
It seems the roads are very broad, just as in Rally Catalunya. No real rallyroads

:confused:

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn98/Trasgu306/IMG_7154.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn98/Trasgu306/IMG_7184.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn98/Trasgu306/IMG_7296.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn98/Trasgu306/IMG_7402.jpg

Eyvind
14th September 2008, 10:45
No real rallyroads??

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=9ctRULdZcTM (http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=9ctRULdZcTM)

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=iFu6YV_nbLI (http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=iFu6YV_nbLI)

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=qmIIwAS-Ug4 (http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=qmIIwAS-Ug4)

HaCo
14th September 2008, 11:09
The S2000's are awesome on durty, bumpy roads. The second day were (some) a bit wider stages like San Remo. But to call it like Catalunya I wouldn't call it correct. Certainly on the first day very narrow roads covered with threes on the side of the road.

Eyvind
14th September 2008, 12:54
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn98/Trasgu306/IMG_7326.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn98/Trasgu306/IMG_7359.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn98/Trasgu306/IMG_7360.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn98/Trasgu306/IMG_7354.jpg

BOZIAN
14th September 2008, 17:00
Photos in http://www.mateosvideoracing.com

http://www.mateosvideoracing.com/images/08/albunes/principe/photos/rsz_21.jpg

http://www.mateosvideoracing.com/images/08/albunes/principe/photos/rsz_128.jpg

http://www.mateosvideoracing.com/images/08/albunes/principe/photos/rsz_250.jpg

http://www.mateosvideoracing.com/images/08/albunes/principe/photos/rsz_272.jpg

M.S.
15th September 2008, 02:33
More pictures

http://www.supermotores.net/sm/fotos.asp?id=113

http://www.supermotores.net/sm/fotos.asp?id=114

wwbroe
15th September 2008, 11:01
It seems the roads are very broad, just as in Rally Catalunya. No real rallyroads :(

Well Wim, you are off-course entitled to have your opinion, but i don't think it is fair to call these roads not real rallyroads. I have done all the stages myself, and i must admit that the stages were very nice, really twisty and not that large at all. In fact, a part from first stage (the same as third one), the stages look a lot like the ones we know from San Remo rally, but with very changing grip and many different sorts of asphalt. Most of the time very slippery, even in fully dry conditions. But that is just my personal opinion, but i can tell you that i was not the only one with the same opinion. ;)
Basso was the man who deserved to win and i think it is good for the championship that Abarth took this win. We don't have to count out Basso yet for the championship, with his home round coming up in just two weeks time. Vouilloz once again did also very good rally, but bad tyrechoice on last two stages of first day probably costed him the victory. Loix was also very fast, but had some problems with notes, but did great job fridayevening with really good tyrechoice and two fastest times in a row. He also took first scratch on Saturday, but then powersteering broke down, with an off as a result of that, and the fight was over. After that he just controled his pace to stay in third in front of Ojeda.
Up to San Remo now, were it will be hard to beat the Italian drivers, especially Basso and Rosetti. The organisers made it even more difficult with making a 56 Kms stage in the night, wich will be a great favour for Italian drivers, but we will see. The championship ain't over yet, but i think it will be very hard to beat Vouilloz after all. We have to keep in mind that Valais is still coming up, and i think that one will be for Loix or Voullioz, but we will see. Anyhow, we had a great rally in Spain. I was never in Asturias before, but i must admit that it is real nice region and i liked the stages a lot. :)

Eyvind
16th September 2008, 22:37
Nice video:
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=wF1UzPnb4tg

Eyvind
19th September 2008, 21:43
Rally Principe de Asturias Video:

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=1weAOGW4FEQ

secalez
25th September 2008, 16:33
Great video of this rally http://www.lacuneta.net

30th September 2008, 10:24
just my two centsbump