[IRC] 2009 Rallye Monte Carlo - official thread

[alleskids]

Tuesday 20 januari - saterday 24 januari 2009
Route: 3 etappes on 21, 22, 23 and 24 januari 2009
nightstages: 4 including twice Col de Turini,
Maximum number of competitors: 100
Only the first 60 teams are allowed to start the last night
Price ceremony: saterday 24 januari, Place du Palais Princier, Monaco

Etappe 1: Monaco / Valence – Wednesday 21 januar1 2009
Start from Monaco 07:40
KP1: Roquesteron – junction D10/D5
KP2: La Motte Chalancon – St Nazaire le désert
KP3: St Jean en Royans – Col de Gaudissart
Arrival at Valence from 17:30 – Palais des Expositions

Etappe 2: Valence / Valence – Thursday 22 januari 2009
Start from Valence 08:47
KP4 en KP7: Labatie d’Andaure – St Pierre sur Doux
KP5 en KP8: St Bonnet – St Bonnet
KP6 en KP9: Lamastre – Gilhoc – AlbouKPière
After KP6 the teams will regroup for 15 minutes in Valence for 20 minutes service.
Arrival at Valence 18:30

Etappe 3: Valence / Monaco – Friday 23 januari 2009
Start from Valance 06:00
KP10: Montauban sur Ouvèze – Eygalayes
Arrival Monaco and the Parc Fermé 14:08

Start from Monaco 18:22
KP11 en KP13: Sospel – Turini – La Bollène Vésubie
KP12 en KP14: Lantosque – Luceram
Arrival Monaco 01:20

[Mirek]

Third day seems to be pretty useless to me. But the last night will be fantastic!

[Josti]

Even though not on the WRC calender, this kind of feels like a classic Monte Carlo Rally again. But does anyone know the total stage distance?

[ironseb]

I don't know exactly the total stage distance. But after a quick look to the road map, I think 250-300km. No more.

May be the shortest Montecarl' in the history.

[c4]

Monte 2009 will be 215.06 competitive miles compared with 224.97 in 2008 according to MN


Also looks like Loeb may do it in a C2 s1600
http://rallybuzz.stagetimes.com/loeb-linked-to-entry-for-monte-carlo-rally-2009-does-this-mean-he-will-miss-the-wrc-launch-at-stormont/

[ironseb]

Monte 2009 will be 215.06 competitive miles compared with 224.97 in 2008 according to MN


Also looks like Loeb may do it in a C2 s1600
http://rallybuzz.stagetimes.com/loeb-linked-to-entry-for-monte-carlo-rally-2009-does-this-mean-he-will-miss-the-wrc-launch-at-stormont/

Ok, so not the shortest but if we compare with 1986…

Loeb with a C2 s1600 ? I don't think so, with this car he won't be able to win.

Or Loeb with a C2 but in "0".

[alleskids]

How far is Citroen with the developing of the C3 2000? Any news about it? It would be a perfect debut for the car, on French terrain.

[cosmicpanda]

KP5 en KP8: St Bonnet – St Bonnet

I'm surprised they're including St Bonnet after the drivers this year were complaining about safety. If they can cut Ouninpohja out (of Finland), why can this stage still survive?


]Third day seems to be pretty useless to me. But the last night will be fantastic!

Are they not the same thing? It's all on the same leg.

[c4]

How far is Citroen with the developing of the C3 2000? Any news about it? It would be a perfect debut for the car, on French terrain.

Don't think the C3 is gonna happen.

[ironseb]

Some news informations here : http://www.acm.mc/ramc/2009/docs/prereglement_fr_2009.pdf

[wwbroe]

Looks like Eurosport is going to do massive coverage of Monte Carlo rally. They will do not less then four hours live coverage, with five special stages covered live. It is first time in history of rally that this is the case (that is what is told). :)
Source:http://www.rallye-magazin.de

[Mirek]

It would be great...

[RS]

In English: http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=7393

Great news, this is a big step for IRC and rallying in general. Live coverage from proper stages is what we need!

Monte 2009 should have a fantastic entry list too.

[HaCo]

Maybe Ford should switch a championship that has decent promotors ;)

[CEORacingLions]

Somebody knows if this live transmission is only for Monte .... or the other rallys have the same ?

I think this is the answer that rallys need..... live stages on TV ! Promotion .

Make the rally a attractive market with more and more things like this.

I think it would generate a nice profits for everyone !

The MotorSport World , and Rallys in particular , needs a TV Channel to make live broadcasts of all Rallys a bit all over the world.

From CIR , Spanish ,French , Czech , Bulgarian, Portuguese , Hungarian , ERC Rallys , IRC Rallys , WRC Rallys ... well .... a bit of all Championships and Rallys , as is done with football.



I know , i'm dreaming a bit ..... but ..first the idea ... after ...the completion.

I hope one day access to a service like that .... This is what I call quality of life .

[HaCo]

On pitstoptv they say eurosport will try some stuff in valais: live directly from the stage instead of from the service park. :)

[wwbroe]

I don't know exactly the total stage distance. But after a quick look to the road map, I think 250-300km. No more.

May be the shortest Montecarl' in the history.

Looks like Monte Carlo 2009 will have 359 KMs of special stages, so i don't think you can say that it is short rally, especially when you compare with other rally's in IRC. It is indeed short if you compare with the sixties, but hey, that was another period and i don't think that those days will appear again. :D

[Tom206wrc]

So according to Quesnel interview at Wales Rally GB today, Loeb in 207 S2000 for Monte is something possible ???? :)

[RS]

So according to Quesnel interview at Wales Rally GB today, Loeb in 207 S2000 for Monte is something possible ???? :)

I read another interview with Quesnel saying that Loeb could drive other cars next year (due to shorter WRC calendar) but only Peugeots. Seb would not do Monte unless he can compete for a win so this would be great news!

[urabus-denoS2000]

Very good news!!!!
Why not Seb in an Peugeot

[J4MIE]

Hope Seb will be there in a 207 :D :up:

[Sulland]

When can we expect the entry list released ?

[wwbroe]

The entrylist won't be published anywhere soon. I think entries are open untill 19th of december, so i expect the official entrylist only beginning of the new year. ;)

[Sulland]

With Citroen and Peugeat sports joining forces under Quesnel, the possibility for Loeb to start in Monte is improving a lot !!!

[Tom206wrc]

With Citroen and Peugeat sports joining forces under Quesnel, the possibility for Loeb to start in Monte is improving a lot !!!


Rumour Sébastien Ogier would be there too :D

But with what car :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

I've read in a french forum there will be about thirty S2000s on Monte-Carlo next year :eek: :eek:

[AndyRAC]

I've read in a french forum there will be about thirty S2000s on Monte-Carlo next year :eek: :eek:

:up: :up: :up:

[RS]

I've read in a french forum there will be about thirty S2000s on Monte-Carlo next year :eek: :eek:

I can believe that.

We've had 20ish S2000s on other IRC events and Monte is a big name that anyone would love to compete in, and if you have an S2000 and you are good enough, you could win it this time!

[katxal]

Auto Hebdo in spain said that turini stages will be only allowed to the first 60 cars of the entry list...

[RS]

Auto Hebdo in spain said that turini stages will be only allowed to the first 60 cars of the entry list...

That is true, it says so on the official Monte site.

However, as these are the last stages of the rally, there might only be 60 cars or so left by then anyway.

[J4MIE]

Why is that? Due to road closure times or something? :s

[alleskids]

Peugeot Sport was/is planning to do the Monte, but who will be te drivers ? I can remember Stephane Sarrazin being mentioned, but who is the other one ? If Sebastien Loeb is not taking his place anyway :)

[jparker]

When can we expect the entry list released ?

Well, we don't have official 2009 calendar yet, if you know what I mean ;)

[Mirek]

IRC calendar was officialy revealed on 25th November ;)
http://www.ircseries.com/html/readNews.asp?id=1014

[Mirek]

Video of Škoda testing on snow near Vienne, France:
http://www.dailymotion.com/poypoy38/video/12936590

I wish that white thing on the road soooo much :)

[Tom206wrc]

Peugeot Sport was/is planning to do the Monte, but who will be te drivers ? I can remember Stephane Sarrazin being mentioned, but who is the other one ? If Sebastien Loeb is not taking his place anyway :)


Maybe Guillaume Canivenq(even if me thinks it's unlikely) :confused:

[wwbroe]

The date for entering Monte Carlo Rally, wich was friday 19th of december is extended till wednesday 31st of december. So competitors have an extra 12 days to enter for this rally. So i guess we wont see any entrylist anywhere soon. :)

[Mirek]

New Skoda testing video: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7qb63_extrait-test-skoda-fabia-s2000-mc-2_auto

[Tom206wrc]

The date for entering Monte Carlo Rally, wich was friday 19th of december is extended till wednesday 31st of december. So competitors have an extra 12 days to enter for this rally. So i guess we wont see any entrylist anywhere soon. :)



;)

[Buzz Lightyear]

Has anyone an overview map of the stages for 2009 Monte Carlo?

[karlzoro]

Peugeot Sport was/is planning to do the Monte, but who will be te drivers ? I can remember Stephane Sarrazin being mentioned, but who is the other one ? If Sebastien Loeb is not taking his place anyway :)

Bouffier?

[Tom206wrc]

Looks like Didier Auriol would run Monte in the 207 of Grifone instead of the team's Grande Punto :confused:

[Mirek]

I heard about Eric Mauffrey in Grifone's Punto...

[PLuto]

Confirmed, Auriol with 207 S2000: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7746

[teufel]

Bouffier?

he would be a wise choice!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

According to Rally-mania.cz Rossetti will be in Monte Carlo...
http://rally-mania.cz/index.php?vypisVse=detail&id=6329

[PLuto]

]According to Rally-mania.cz Rossetti will be in Monte Carlo...
http://rally-mania.cz/index.php?vypisVse=detail&id=6329

Hey, Paulo, you are believing Rally-Mania more, than original source (me)? As I wrote week ago (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7712), Rossetti is going to Abarth to start on CIR and some (5?) IRC rounds, starting in Monte Carlo. Today was officially confirmed Abarth plans for 2009 (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7748) ;)

[Tom206wrc]

PG Andersson in a 207 S2000 at Rally MC09 ???? :confused:

http://www.norsk-rally.com/modules/module_123/proxy.aspx?D=2&C=2&I=5839

[DonJippo]

PG Andersson in a 207 S2000 at Rally MC09 ???? :confused:

http://www.norsk-rally.com/modules/module_123/proxy.aspx?D=2&C=2&I=5839

No, his target #1 is to drive in Rally Norway.

[ironseb]

Auto Hebdo in spain said that turini stages will be only allowed to the first 60 cars of the entry list...

Like all Turini's nights in the past ! (But for 100 cars)

[Mirek]

According to this article PG was offered Monte Carlo in Proton Satria S2000. http://www.nwt.se/sport/article444450.ece

[Tom206wrc]

I wonder if Ucci, confirmed as Peugeot Italy driver in 2009, will be at Monte-Carlo(IRC event planned for Rossetti before he went to Abarth) :confused:

[Mirek]

I don't expect it. Peugeot Italy was interested in C.I.R., not in IRC which was Rossetti's own initiative in my opinion.

[Tom206wrc]

]I don't expect it. Peugeot Italy was interested in C.I.R., not in IRC which was Rossetti's own initiative in my opinion.


Maybe but except Monte-Carlo I think Abarth is only CIR too for Rox and Scandola :mark:

I think Rossetti will start in 3-4 races of IRC.
Unfortunately this year CIR has a lot of rally with same date of IRC events

[Sulland]

Rossetti I guess are aiming for the same as last year, start i the first rallies and aim for more money if he succeeds !

[Mirek]

Don't forget he was doing ERC and made it to the European title. He made only Portugal from not joint IRC/ERC events if I remember well and that was because organizers paid him...

[pucky54]

Who are the candidates for the BF Goodrich car???
Or is there no BF car in Monaco??

[wwbroe]

Who are the candidates for the BF Goodrich car???
Or is there no BF car in Monaco??

Normally there should be BF Goodrich drive in Monte Carlo, but i don't know anything about possible candidates. ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Who are the candidates for the BF Goodrich car???
Or is there no BF car in Monaco??



Gilles Panizzi would be one(ask Mirek :D )and also Jean-Sébastien Vigion(who finished 2nd at the rallye du Var for the first time in a 207 S2000, winning the Trophée BFGoodrich on this event)... ;)

[pucky54]

....hmmm they should bring two BFG cars to Monaco :D :D

[Luis Pacheco]

http://drivers-team.com/_download/VD854.pdf

[Sulland]

I like this BF initiative, but it can be improved:
http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=566944#post566944

[RS]

Monte TV schedule:
http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=7571

[Tom206wrc]

Giacomo Ogliari at Monte-Carlo in a 207 S2000 ;)

http://www.autoklub.pl/22711,news.html

[urabus-denoS2000]

Giacomo Ogliari at Monte-Carlo in a 207 S2000 ;)

http://www.autoklub.pl/22711,news.html

Who? :p

[PLuto]

You dont know Giacomo Ogliari? He was 28. overall in last year Rallye Monte Carlo :D

[urabus-denoS2000]

You dont know Giacomo Ogliari? He was 28. overall in last year Rallye Monte Carlo :D

Oh the guy who posted 43rd best time on SS9 Labatie d Andaure-Lalouvecs 1???? :p
Sure,now I remember him!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p

[Sulland]

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/wrc/news/172846-0/irc_bumper_tv_deal_for_monte.html

More TV for monte !!


When can we expect the entry list ?

[Tom206wrc]

...

When can we expect the entry list ?



Not before start/mid-january, as it closes at end december... :mark:


Edit: after the 9th january in fact, after we have the BFGoodrich driver's name :rolleyes:

[GrP]

Andrej Jereb will drive at Monte with P207 S2000

[pucky54]

Will there be more than 30 S2000 cars?

[Tom206wrc]

Andrej Jereb will drive at Monte with P207 S2000



Let's hope more luck to him than his first outing with the car this year(engine broken on SS1 during a rally in Croatia I think) :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Read in a french forum: Pascal Enjolras would run Monte-Carlo in a 207 S2000 from his father's team(Michel Enjolras Sport)...if true here we have another good "local" driver for this rally :) :)

[urabus-denoS2000]

Let's hope more luck to him than his first outing with the car this year(engine broken on SS1 during a rally in Croatia I think) :mark:

He drove the 207 the first and so far only time on Waldviertel 2007 ;)

He already drove Monte Carlo in 2006 where he finished 5th in PWRC

Good luck to Andrej and Miran,they are really nice guys and they deserve it!!!!

[wwbroe]

I was just having a look at the rallyguide for Monte and i saw something that might be interesting concerning starting order.

Point 12.3 Starting order:
At the start of the first section at TC0, the ten first cars will start with an interval of two minutes, and the rest with one minute interval.

At the start of section 2 and 3, the first 10 cars will start in reverse order of standings after first day, with an interval of two minutes. The rest of the cars will start with interval of one minute and in order of standings.

[Sulland]

Any news on PG's Proton deal for Monte ?
Is he on the list ?

[4Regioni]

News to the start list ?

[Tom206wrc]

Looks like Damien Daumas(young french driver running in the Suzuki Swift Cup on tarmac rallies championship this year)will drive a 207 S2000 at 2009 Monte-Carlo too :)

[4Regioni]

Thank's ;)

Nikolas Schelle on Suzuki Swift S1600

[alleskids]

Starting order is not really an isue is it on he Monte Carlo Rally? So why start in reverse order?

[wwbroe]

Starting order is not really an isue is it on he Monte Carlo Rally? So why start in reverse order?

It depends on weather conditions off-course. If the roads are dry it is not so important, in case of snow it could be another matter (or ice). ;)

[Koppomsbo]

Gardemeister 99% of driving an Fiat Abarth in Monte

[urabus-denoS2000]

Gardemeister 99% of driving an Fiat Abarth in Monte

Very nice!

This is going to be an awesome rally!!!!Cant wait :D

[Tom206wrc]

Gardemeister 99% of driving an Fiat Abarth in Monte


:up:

[4Regioni]

Gardemeister 99% of driving an Fiat Abarth in Monte
:)

[Tom206wrc]

More than ever, Kronos has to chose THE RIGHT man in its team regarding the BFGoodrich driver(a driver who has consistency + performance)if they want to fight correctly against Abarth(and Skoda)... ;)

[RS]

Is Toni going to be in a works or private Abarth?

He could be a real contendor for victory, he has always gone well on Monte.

[wwbroe]

Is Toni going to be in a works or private Abarth?

He could be a real contendor for victory, he has always gone well on Monte.

The way i have understood it, he would drive car from Astra team. He drove a lot for this team before, but i didn't know they have Punto S2000. :)

[Luis Pacheco]

http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?p=stories&op=view&fokey=as.stories/63741

After all, the hope to have the Peugeot official Portuguese team at Rally of Monte Carlo have gone down. Due to the lack of response in time of a possible sponsor, Bruno Magalhães will have to wait for later the definition of its sports program for 2009.

The possibility of conducting a mini-program in the Intercontinental Rally Challenge remains standing, but the truth is that this time everything is still very unclear. For Carlos Barros, the only guarantee is "not being stopped, although we have to remain waiting for the definition of the program," he said.

autosport.pt

[Tom206wrc]

:(

[J4MIE]

So they are still waiting for €€€€€€€€€€ :(

[rallye-sport]

Provisional Entry List
http://www.rallye-sport.fr/liste-des-engages-rallye-monte-carlo-2009/

[4Regioni]

Nothing Montecarlo for Pascal Enjolras (no budget).
http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/theme38/sujet378660-1190.htm

[jbmarcus21]

Program and Google Earth Map of the Monte Carlo Rally here : http://planetemarcus.free.fr/montecarloirc09.htm

[Tom206wrc]

Nothing Montecarlo for Pascal Enjolras (no budget).
http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/theme38/sujet378660-1190.htm



Peugeot-Sport could have helped !!! They need the more good drivers possible against Abarth this year!!! :rolleyes:

[Mirek]

Change of the route! SS11, 13 Turini is heavily changed. Maybe because of snow... New Route is Col de Braus - Col de Turini - Le Bolléne - Vesubie. Map here: http://www.acm.mc/ramc/2009/maps/ES_11_13.pdf

[RS]

Peugeot-Sport could have helped !!! They need the more good drivers possible against Abarth this year!!! :rolleyes:

Is he French? Why not apply for the BFG drive?

[Wim_Impreza]

Yes, Pascal Enjolras is French. He did some good results in French tarmac championship the past years with Peugeot (306 Maxi and 206 CC as example).

[4Regioni]

Good 2009

[Tom206wrc]

Apparently entry is still open until 5th january :confused:

[wwbroe]

Apparently entry is still open until 5th january :confused:

Hey Tom, where have you seen this? Do you know wich drivers have entered the BFGoodrich contest for Monte? I tought they should be known by now, because entries were closed at 31st of december? ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Looks like it's written on the ACM website ;)

[Tom206wrc]

From last news, there won't be more than 17 S2000s on entry(60 crews in total) :(

[RS]

From last news, there won't be more than 17 S2000s on entry(60 crews in total) :(

Even if that is true, I wouldn't be too disappointed because we know a lot of those will be with very strong drivers.

[HaCo]

17 is not bad at all, certainly when you see the level of the drivers!

[4Regioni]

Nothing Proton Satria S2000 and Andersson to Montecarlo :(

[Sulland]

Nothing Proton Satria S2000 and Andersson to Montecarlo :(

Pity !

Would have been fun !

But he is driving the 1st round of the Norwegian championship in a Fabia WRC;
http://www.sigdalsrally.no/paameldte2/4

[Salist]

Roads the Rallye de Monte-Carlo IRC 2009

http://planetemarcus.free.fr/Rallye%20Automobile%20Monte-Carlo%202009%20(IRC)%20(by%20Dimitri%20Dusart).kmz

[rallyman82]

Hello!

What hour close the stages in IRC? 0:00 hour?

thank's

[wwbroe]

Hello!

What hour close the stages in IRC? 0:00 hour?

thank's

In Rally Monte Carlo the stages will be closed two hours before the actual start of the first car. ;)

[Mirek]

Wittmann was testing: http://www.franz-wittmann.com/jun/fotos/rollout_09/fotos.html#

[Catiocha7]

Does F.Duval drive in MC ?

[NRI]

Does F.Duval drive in MC ?

No !

[Sulland]

If the time to sign up went out yesterday, when can we expect the official list ?

[wwbroe]

Weren't the five finalists for BFGoodrich drive supposed to be announced today? ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Weren't the five finalists for BFGoodrich drive supposed to be announced today? ;)



No, in three days, the 9, will be announced the Kronos/BFGoodrich driver for Monte-Carlo ;)

[Mirek]

wwbroe meant list of finalist, not the chosen driver.

[Tom206wrc]

]wwbroe meant list of finalist, not the chosen driver.


In this case I've read/heard nothing about this :confused:

[Mirek]

Dani Solá with Punto?
http://www.lequipe.fr/Formule1/breves2009/20090106_165444_un-plateau-tres-fourni.html

[RS]

]Dani Solá with Punto?
http://www.lequipe.fr/Formule1/breves2009/20090106_165444_un-plateau-tres-fourni.html

Good news if true but I would be surprised since we have heard nothing of it up until now. The article seems to suggest he may be in a works Punto?

[wwbroe]

Good news, but it will indeed depend with what car he will be at start. If it is same car like last year then i don't think he will be very fast, since he only had troubles with that car. If you read the article it suggest that it could concern a factory car tough, lets wait and see if there is any truth in it. ;)

[4Regioni]

Manuel Villa-Carlo Canova Fiat Punto S1600

[Sulland]

If the time to sign up went out yesterday, when can we expect the official list ?


When is the full entry list for MC expected ?

[Mirek]

http://www.dailymotion.com/poypoy38/video/x7y78b_abcdefghijkl_auto

Sarrazin testing on snow ;)

[Simmi]

I think it would be very ironic if the first IRC running of the Monte gets the awesome changeable weather conditions that have been sadly lacking in the WRC event for a long time.

[Tom206wrc]

]http://www.dailymotion.com/poypoy38/video/x7y78b_abcdefghijkl_auto

Sarrazin testing on snow ;)



:)

[noel157]

Anybody know when the official recce times are?

[Mirek]

There are suplementary regulations on official website: http://www.acm.mc

[noel157]

]There are suplementary regulations on official website: http://www.acm.mc

Thanks Mirek, recce from this Sunday to next Sunday. 3 passes per stage.

[Wim_Impreza]

I think it would be very ironic if the first IRC running of the Monte gets the awesome changeable weather conditions that have been sadly lacking in the WRC event for a long time.

It is every year the same, in the begin of January there is snow in the Monte region and when the rally is, there is no sign of snow on the roads.

[Simmi]

It is every year the same, in the begin of January there is snow in the Monte region and when the rally is, there is no sign of snow on the roads.

I dont know about the rest of Europe but it seems to have been a lot colder in the UK this winter so hopefully that will carry through to the Monte. But I think that is just me being hopeful.

[Sulland]

In Belgium it has been Norwegian temperatures lately with btw minus 5 to 15 C.

But it is getting milder towards the weekend...

[Mirek]

Czech drivers Milan Liška (Evo IX) and Martin Rada (Alfa Romeo 147) are finaly confirmed for Monte.

[COD]

In Belgium it has been Norwegian temperatures lately with btw minus 5 to 15 C.

...
Yes it is the global warming caused by the evil motorsports :laugh:

[Mirek]

Short video from today Fabia testing: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ywrr_testskodafabias2000_sport

And Sarrazin again: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw6eVTX9y3Y

[wwbroe]

Today they should anounce the name of the BFGoodrich driver for Monte? :)

[Tom206wrc]

Entrylist available :bounce:

http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2009/engages_2009.php


No name for BFGoodrich drive yet, though :mark:

[Sulland]

So 19 S2000 and 14 Gr N cars - Not bad !

33 in the top class - that will be hard to match for WRC !

[Wim_Impreza]

So 19 S2000 and 14 Gr N cars - Not bad !

33 in the top class - that will be hard to match for WRC !

Didn't you see the forfaits before the names?

[Tom206wrc]

Unfortunately... :(

[Sulland]

Didn't you see the forfaits before the names?

And forfaits mean ?

Is it cancelled or something ?

[PLuto]

Forfait means, that they cancelled their entry :(

[Simmi]

Not bad for the start of the season. To be honest the Monte in recent times has never had huge entries of top cars because it is so early in the year. It is still a very intriguing list though with some very good drivers.

[Mirek]

Monte is also very expensive. Big entry, huge distances, a lot of days to do recce and rally. Nothing cheap...

[Mirek]

Testing in livery!
http://www.johnfoto.wz.cz/fabiamonte/
http://www.johnfoto.wz.cz/fabiamonte/img00025.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Nice livery :eek:

[Mirek]

Once more Sarrazin: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k7asxtSXeUsV5gUd3c

[HaCo]

Awesome livery!!!!!

[dimviii]

nice livery!

[Donney]

The Skoda looks great!

[urabus-denoS2000]

Why arent Hanninen and Rossetti the first 2 drivers,since they have A priority????


GO JEREB-KACIN!!!!

[Mirek]

I think that this year starting order is up to organiser and licenses are not mandatory for starting order.

[RS]

Skoda's final shakedown test video: http://www.dailymotion.com/RIGIBIKER/video/x7z8dd_testskodafabias2000ii_sport

These studded ice tyres seem to give awesome traction.

[Mirek]

I'm slow... Please, delete :)

[soprano]

Video Andrej Jereb testing Peugeot 207 S2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XGCE1TpG6E&eurl=http://www.superspecial.si/Rally/DP-Slovenije/Andrej-Jereb-testiral-Peugeota-207-S2000.html

[Tom206wrc]

Quite spectacular Jereb ;)

But is the track really representative of Monte-Carlo roads ??? :mark:

[urabus-denoS2000]

Everyone is spectacular on circuits ;)

It was more about learning the car

[cosmicpanda]

What is the weather like in the area?

I understand that it is quite spread out, but I hope for lots of snow :D

[Karbonyl]

No snow at the region of Valance and temperatures above 0°. Rainy wather possible in forecast :-/

[Tom206wrc]

Next week Didi is testing with Grifone ;)


http://www.testrally.com/prossimitest.asp

[WRC1]

all weather infos are welcome!

are there any webcams available for the rally area? turini? col de la portette? st bonnet le froid? col de perty? col s. jean? col de braus?

i did a search in google but could not find anything.. :0(

reg

wrc1

[Tom206wrc]

Would be more interesting to have weather news from the end of next week, 'cause now it's a bit early :rolleyes:

[noel157]

Kris Meeke will test for the first time in the 207 after recce, hopefully it will be for 2 days, only one day confirmed at present.

[Tom206wrc]

Kris Meeke will test for the first time in the 207 after recce, hopefully it will be for 2 days, only one day confirmed at present.



I guess Ogier as a "Kronos Member"(for Monte) will test in the same time :confused:

[FabiaFan]

?

[Mirek]

Another nice testing video, this time Basso and Vouilloz (of course not the same test) ;)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6sqiX2R5wOqQDUnJg

[Tom206wrc]

Good question FabiaFan...when Monte pickems ??? :confused:

[PLuto]

]I think that this year starting order is up to organiser and licenses are not mandatory for starting order.

I dont think there are changes in rules in this way from last year. FIA priorities should start in front of other crews.

[Mirek]

How come? It was said the rulles would be changed for 2009...

[PLuto]

There were possibilities to cancelling FIA priorities, but they continue. I was also checking regulations and everything is same as in previous years.

[rallyman82]

I'm asking if it's possible to arrive to col de turini by the Lucéram Road and if this road it's closed early or late.

[wwbroe]

I'm asking if it's possible to arrive to col de turini by the Lucéram Road and if this road it's closed early or late.

As the new traject of the Turini stage is using this road between Luceram and Col de Turini, it will not be possible, it will be closed two hours in front of first car passage. :)

[rallyman82]

Thank's but I'm asking if it's possible to arrive to col de turini by the Lucéram Road (st michel) and if this road it's closed early or late or the road is open all the night. do you understand?

Thank's

[wwbroe]

Thank's but I'm asking if it's possible to arrive to col de turini by the Lucéram Road (st michel) and if this road it's closed early or late or the road is open all the night. do you understand?

Thank's

It is possible to use this road to go to top of Turini, at least if you do it before the road will be closed, that is two hours in front of first car. But the road will only be open again after last car has gone trough second run of Turini stage. Is that what you want to know or is it something else?

[rallyman82]

Thank you very much!

Good rally!

[Buzz Lightyear]

is there a shakedown stage?

[PLuto]

No, there is no shakedown.

[Mitch555]

Hey guys, does anyone know of how you can watch Eurosports Live Monte stages online? Don't have it on the TV I'm afraid :(

Really keen to see how good this will be, at the moment I think its looking far more exciting than Ireland :)

[RS]

Hey guys, does anyone know of how you can watch Eurosports Live Monte stages online? Don't have it on the TV I'm afraid :(

Really keen to see how good this will be, at the moment I think its looking far more exciting than Ireland :)

For the Rally du Valais last year you could watch the live stuff online at the official IRC site http://www.ircseries.com/html/Video.asp

I presume it will be the same this year. It works well if you have a good net connection and computer.

[Buzz Lightyear]

Someone said you will need a subscription to watch it live?

[Mirek]

Alén testing: http://www.dailymotion.com/energykarting/video/x80jzq_essais-abarth_auto

[RS]

Someone said you will need a subscription to watch it live?

Online?

I believe that might be true if you go via Eurosport.com but if you go via the IRC official site it is, or at least was, free.

[Tom206wrc]

Julien Maurin's Grande Punto will be also prepared by Astra/Nocentini(Toni Gardemeister's team) ;)

http://www.autoklub.pl/22994,news.html

[PLuto]

Yes, I was writing it into PWRC thread here yesterday :)

[PLuto]

Not so good conditions on Monte :( Article about our driver Martin Rada from recce with pictures from SS 4 and SS 5 - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7829

[Tom206wrc]

I see no problem with dry conditions :D

[PLuto]

Some photos from recce by Franz Wittmann - http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/thumbnails.php?album=89

http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090113/thumb_Wittmann_Monte_2009_tr%E9nink02.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090113/thumb_Wittmann_Monte_2009_tr%E9nink06.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090113/thumb_Wittmann_Monte_2009_tr%E9nink11.jpg

[urabus-denoS2000]

Jereb said that the car has a lot more torque then when he drove it last time in 2007 (and it is from the same team-Friulmotor)

[cosmicpanda]

Any snow on the Turini? I see it is mentioned but can't read the language...

[Tom206wrc]

In its press release Peugeot-Sport write about all the 207 drivers at Monte-Carlo, except Giacomo Ogliari :confused: :confused:

[Mirek]

Any snow on the Turini? I see it is mentioned but can't read the language...

Only some places are under snow and ice. Most of the roads are said to be dry.

[Tom206wrc]

I don't like Gardemeister's Grande Punto livery very much... :(

You can see it on http://www.pitstop.tv

[Mirek]

It's the same car which Basso was driving at Monza or Bologna...

[soprano]

]Only some places are under snow and ice. Most of the roads are said to be dry.

Photos from SS1: http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/theme38/sujet378829.htm
Photos from SS11/13: http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/theme38/sujet378819.htm

[PLuto]

Another part of photos from recce of Franz Wittmann - http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/thumbnails.php?album=89

http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090115/thumb_Wittmann_Monte_2009_tr%E9nink35.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090115/thumb_Wittmann_Monte_2009_tr%E9nink20.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090115/thumb_Wittmann_Monte_2009_tr%E9nink22.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090115/thumb_Wittmann_Monte_2009_tr%E9nink25.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090115/thumb_Wittmann_Monte_2009_tr%E9nink28.jpg

[Mirek]

Photos from SS1: http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/theme38/sujet378829.htm
Photos from SS11/13: http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/theme38/sujet378819.htm

Thanks but I know that forum ;) Drivers say there only few such icy and snowy places on the route.

[Mirek]

Another videos:

Sarrazin + Vouilloz: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x817vj_test-peugeot-207-s2000-montecarlo-2_auto

Basso: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x81dbv_test-fiat-punto-s2000-gbasso-montec_auto

[piquet20]

I don't like Gardemeister's Grande Punto livery very much... :(

You can see it on http://www.pitstop.tv


i think it's great...hope he'll be very fast!

[katxal]

]It's the same car which Basso was driving at Monza or Bologna...

car used in tests was DK 080 GT
http://www.s2000rally.com/car-detail.php?car=57

[Mirek]

Thanks ;)

Didi was testing:
http://www.testrally.com/galleria.asp?tipo=Test&id=206&anno=2009
http://www.testrally.com/public/immagini/0009433.JPG

[PuddleJumper]

Anyone able to confirm the start time (and date) of the shakedown?

[urabus-denoS2000]

Looks nice in plain dark blue

[Mirek]

PuddleJumper: It looks like there's no shakedown. They would cancel it for too many spectators in any case so that they made it before it even starts :D :D

[PLuto]

There is no shakedown :)

[PLuto]

Who is interested, article about recce, some photos of recce and video from SS 3 - everything from Franz Wittmann - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7837

http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090113/thumb_Wittmann_Monte_2009_tr%E9nink02.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090113/thumb_Wittmann_Monte_2009_tr%E9nink06.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090115/thumb_Wittmann_Monte_2009_tr%E9nink22.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090115/thumb_Wittmann_Monte_2009_tr%E9nink28.jpg

[[Madeira-Rally]]

In its press release Peugeot-Sport write about all the 207 drivers at Monte-Carlo, except Giacomo Ogliari :confused: :confused:

It's because he will drive a Lancer EVO IX instead of 207 S2000...

[Tom206wrc]

I'm sure Czech of Autosport will as usual propose great service of Live-results for the Monte-Carlo, so I write the direct link :p :

http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/?id=726

[tatrac]

Hey guys, does anyone know of how you can watch Eurosports Live Monte stages online? Don't have it on the TV I'm afraid :(

Really keen to see how good this will be, at the moment I think its looking far more exciting than Ireland :)

You can watch Eurosport online, but language is russian only: http://www.online-television.tv/channel/Sport/377/EuroSport_(Russia)/

[Mirek]

I'm sure Czech of Autosport will as usual propose great service of Live-results for the Monte-Carlo, so I write the direct link :p :

http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/?id=726

There won't be live results from autosport.cz. From ERC only in the moment. Maybe in the future...

[noel157]

Kris Meeke and Paul Nagle have had their first drive in the 207:

http://blog.krismeeke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/6e3c64832f27203d.jpg

[PLuto]

I'm sure Czech of Autosport will as usual propose great service of Live-results for the Monte-Carlo, so I write the direct link :p :

http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/?id=726

There wont be live results from Monte on Autosport, I am going personally to Monte Carlo only as a spectator (after very long time). :D

But I hope on that page will be link to official results from organiser.

[Tom206wrc]

Oh... :s

[Tom206wrc]

Kris Meeke and Paul Nagle have had their first drive in the 207:

http://blog.krismeeke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/6e3c64832f27203d.jpg


I see the truck of the BFGoodrich driver Team behind...does that mean Seb Ogier was testing in the same time :confused:

[urabus-denoS2000]

Wow PLuto is going to actually going to WATCH a rally!!!!!!! :cool: :cool: :cool:

Have a great rally ;)

[noel157]

I see the truck of the BFGoodrich driver Team behind...does that mean Seb Ogier was testing in the same time :confused:

Yes, I believe Ogier was testing at the same time too.

[wwbroe]

Yes, I believe Ogier was testing at the same time too.

Yes, indeed, they were both testing today at Col de Bleine, tomorrow and sunday Loix and Vouilloz will be testing at same base, tomorrow together with Meeke. ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks for the news WWBROE :)

[Mirek]

Meeke and Loix were testing:
http://superrallyman.free.fr/photosessais207.html
http://superrallyman.free.fr/207s200004.jpg

Video Meeke and Ogier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFZFTEvBaqs

[Mirek]

And once more Abarth (Basso, Rossetti, Alén):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5t7rQruV8I

[Sulland]

I will not be surprised if we will see Petter S wandering the depot, and the SS's in Monte Carlo - to have a look with his own eyes what IRC and S2000 is all about !!

[PLuto]

Sulland, I will tell you if we will meet him there :)

[Sulland]

Sulland, I will tell you if we will meet him there :)

Give him a map to Mlada Boleslav !!! :cheese:

[Mirek]

Another testing videos including Loix and Meeke: http://superrallyman.free.fr/index2.html

[Tom206wrc]

Two days left :bounce:

[WRC1]

where can i find live results from monte?

will there be any on the acm homepage?

is there a sms result service?

thx for your help! 15 hours to go!!! (for me)

reg

wrc1

[Buzz Lightyear]

where can i find live results from monte?

will there be any on the acm homepage?

is there a sms result service?

thx for your help! 15 hours to go!!! (for me)

reg

wrc1

i was thinking about the live results also, for sure there is no splits. Have anyone any ideas? Meeke is doing his own SMS service.

[Tom206wrc]

http://www.rally-live.com will have results service for Monte, but until now they don't update very quickly :rolleyes:

http://www.acm.mc/ also logically will provide live-results but I never used it(at the time of WRC)so no idea how perform it will :confused:

[RS]

There certainly will be live results from Monte, don't panic!

Possibly from BFG too...

[WRC1]

There certainly will be live results from Monte, don't panic!

i have no panic, but i will be away from my pc for the whole rallyweek, and it is not so good the search for a result site out on the stage....

so i would prefer to save a link in my phone before i start

thx

wrc1

[Mirek]

Last year there were online results on official http://www.acm.mc website.

[Tom206wrc]

There certainly will be live results from Monte, don't panic!

Possibly from BFG too...


True...I forgot the BFGoodrich website ;)

[AndyRAC]

As much as it pains me to say it, maybe the IRC/Eurosport people should have set up a similar site to the WRC site, with split times, SMS updates etc

[noel157]

Pictures from Vouilloz test from the weekend:

http://www.nicolasvouilloz.com/galerie_display_rallye.php?epreuve=essais&saison=2009

[M5]

As much as it pains me to say it, maybe the IRC/Eurosport people should have set up a similar site to the WRC site, with split times, SMS updates etc

Yes why dont they?
If they are to compete with WRC, they also need to take them on whaere they are strong!

[Karbonyl]

GPS tracking systems and other stuff is that, what makes the WRChamp the most expensive way of rallying. That's why there is so much competetive drivers and interesting fights in IRC. And I really wouldn't be happy if IRC became so poor rubbish like these days WRChamp...

[Tom206wrc]

Can't wait for tomorrow :bounce:


Today scruteneering, and when I get pics I'll post on this thread ;)

[cosmicpanda]

anybody got information about the condition of the roads?

[Tom206wrc]

anybody got information about the condition of the roads?



Rain and no snow at all according to a member of french auto forum... ;(

[Tom206wrc]

True...I forgot the BFGoodrich website ;)



Finally :p :

http://live.bfgoodrich.com/IRC_2009_R1/raceclas.php

But I remember in past years the site was quite quick to update but also sometimes slow(frozen results for quite long time)...hope it'll be OK for Monte :mark:

[Sulland]

Will any of the very good czech sites have result services for IRC ?

Are there any live outdoor webcams in the area, to see the conditions ?

[Shacki]

http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=415

[Tom206wrc]

First pictures !!!! :bounce: :bounce:

http://www.jingoo.com/index.php?key_use ... N8YWjpvja1 (http://www.jingoo.com/index.php?key_user=$1$yxgysNkC$EbAvn9OQ49gnN8YWjpv ja1)

[Tom206wrc]

First pictures !!!! :bounce: :bounce:

http://www.jingoo.com/index.php?key_use ... N8YWjpvja1 (http://www.jingoo.com/index.php?key_user=$1$yxgysNkC$EbAvn9OQ49gnN8YWjpv ja1)


Sorry here's another link :rolleyes:

http://www.jingoo.com/liste_photos.php?id_album=38141

[pucky54]

no access :(

[Tom206wrc]

Look at the 2nd link Pucky ;)

[pucky54]

Look at the 2nd link Pucky ;)

no access either, it just opens the login page

[Tom206wrc]

But it works perfectly with me !! :confused:

[farquar wrc]

At last there is a championship worth following,the IRC is shaping up to be a brilliant and with Kris Meeke where he belongs in a factory car,roll on the Monte and best of luck Kris and Paul and to all the other crews to

[aircologne]

for the photos:
1. side : clic on "rechercher un Albun public"
2. side : leave it as it is (france entire in middle field) and clic on "Lancer la recherche"

3. side many many horses and below "MONTE CARLO". so it works for me