Hillary would be 1st woman president after her husband had sex with an intern

[agwiii]

It's nice to have a president who is not so sleazy that not a single Supreme Court justice shows up for his State of the Union address (Bill Clinton, January 1999, when eight justices stayed away to protest Clinton's disregard for the law and David Souter skipped the speech to watch "Sex and the City").

Speaking of which, the horny hick's wife finally ended the breathless anticipation by announcing that she is running for president. I studied tapes of Hillary feigning surprise at hearing about Monica to help me look surprised upon learning that she's running.

As long as we have revived the practice of celebrating multicultural milestones (briefly suspended when Condoleezza Rice became the first black female to be secretary of state), let us pause to note that Mrs. Clinton, if elected, would be the first woman to become president after her husband had sex with an intern in the Oval Office.

According to the famed "polls" -- or, as I call them, "surveys of uninformed people who think it's possible to get the answer wrong" -- Hillary is the current front-runner for the Democrats. Other than the massive case of narcolepsy her name inspires, this would cause me not the slightest distress -- except for the fact that the Republicans' current front-runners are John McCain and Rudy Giuliani.

Fortunately, polls at this stage are nothing but name recognition contests, so please stop asking me to comment on them. "Arsenic" and "proctologist" have sky-high name recognition going for them, too.

In January, two years before the 2000 presidential election, the leading Republican candidate in New Hampshire was ... Liddy Dole (WMUR-TV/CNN poll, Jan. 12, 1999). In the end, Liddy Dole's most successful run turned out to be a mad dash from her husband Bob after he accidentally popped two Viagras.

At this stage before the 1992 presidential election, the three leading Democratic candidates were, in order: Mario Cuomo, Jesse Jackson and Lloyd Bentsen (Public Opinion Online, Feb. 21, 1991).

Only three months before the 1988 election, William Schneider cheerfully reported in The National Journal that Michael Dukakis beat George Herbert Walker Bush in 22 of 25 polls taken since April of that year. Bush did considerably better in the poll taken on Election Day.

The average poll respondent reads the above information and immediately responds that the administrations of presidents Cuomo, Dole and Dukakis were going in "the wrong direction."

Still and all, Mrs. Clinton is probably the real front-runner based on: (1) the multiple millions of dollars she has raised, and (2) the fact that her leading Democratic opponent is named "Barack Hussein Obama." Or, as he's known at CNN, "Osama." Or, as he's known on the Clinton campaign, "The Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations."

Mrs. Clinton's acolytes are floating the idea of Hillary as another Margaret Thatcher to get past the question, "Can a woman be elected president?" This is based on the many, many things Hillary Clinton and Margaret Thatcher have in common, such as the lack of a Y chromosome and ... hmmm, you know, I think that's it.

Girl-power feminists who got where they are by marrying men with money or power -- Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Arianna Huffington and John Kerry -- love to complain about how hard it is for a woman to be taken seriously.

It has nothing to do with their being women. It has to do with their cheap paths to power. Kevin Federline isn't taken seriously either.

It is as easy to imagine Americans voting for someone like Margaret Thatcher or Condoleezza Rice for president as it is difficult to imagine them voting for someone like Hillary. (Or Kevin Federline.) Hillary isn't piggybacking on Thatcher because she's a woman, she's piggybacking on Thatcher because Thatcher made it on her own, which Hillary did not.

But the most urgent question surrounding Hillary's candidacy is: How will the Democrats out-macho us if Hillary is their presidential nominee? Unlike their last presidential nominee, she doesn't even have any fake Purple Hearts.

Sen. Jim Webb, who managed to give the rebuttal to President Bush's State of the Union address Tuesday night without challenging the president to a fistfight (well done, Jim!), won his election last November by portraying himself as one of the new gun-totin' Democrats.
He once opposed women in the military by calling the idea "a horny woman's dream." But -- as some of us warned you -- it appears that Webb has already been fitted for his tutu by Rahm Emanuel.

Webb began his rebuttal by complaining that we don't have national health care and aren't spending enough on "education" (teachers unions). In other words, he talked about national issues that only are national issues because of this country's rash experiment with women's suffrage. I guess we should all be relieved that at least Webb's response did not involve putting a young boy's penis into a man's mouth, as characters in his novels are wont to do.

He then palavered on about the vast military experience of his entire family in order to better denounce the war in Iraq. As long as Democrats keep insisting that only warriors can discuss war, how about telling the chick to butt out?

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=19130

[race aficionado]

I gather you won't be voting for her, huh?
:s mokin:

[agwiii]

I gather you won't be voting for her, huh? :s mokin:

What led you to that conclusion? :laugh: :s mokin:

[schmenke]

Hillary is wasting her time. The U.S. will never elect a woman presidient.

[Eki]

let us pause to note that Mrs. Clinton, if elected, would be the first woman to become president after her husband had sex with an intern in the Oval Office.
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So, it was her fault that her husband had sex with an intern? Now that you reminded us of being responsible for the acts of our relatives, I remember that George W Bush was the first US president whose grandfather was buddy-buddy with the Nazis:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html

[AndyRAC]

The woman seems to get good press, mainly because she isn't Dubya and/or Republican. I think she'd just as idiotic as him.

[ArrowsFA1]

...the horny hick's wife finally ended the breathless anticipation by announcing that she is running for president. I studied tapes of Hillary feigning surprise at hearing about Monica to help me look surprised upon learning that she's running.
:laugh:

I guess we've just been given a preview of the kind of campaign the Republicans will be running this time around :p

[agwiii]

:laugh: I guess we've just been given a preview of the kind of campaign the Republicans will be running this time around :p

As I just wrote to Mark in Oshawa, many things about the United States of America are different. Ann Coulter is a political columnist. She does not speak for the Republican Party, but writes her own copy. She also speaks out against the Republican Party, the Libertarian Party, etc., depending upon the issue. If you would like to learn more about Ann, go www.humaneventsonline.com (http://www.humaneventsonline.com) where you can subscribe for free, and access archives.

[Knock-on]

I must object to the title. The original title for this piece was "I Am Woman, Hear Me Bore"

However, each to their own eh :laugh:

My personal opinion, the title should be:

"Hillary would be 1st woman president"

Or should that be "Hilary will be 1st woman president"

:laugh:

[agwiii]

So, it was her fault that her husband had sex with an intern?

Eki - either you intentionally distort what people write, or you are truly struggling to understand English. Nowhere in Ann Coulter's column does she blame Hillary for Bill's infidelity and pedophilia.

[agwiii]

My personal opinion, the title should be <snip>

There is an old American saying, that opinions are like ... However, I'll leave it at that. Hey Mark in Oshawa, have you heard that one up in Canada?

[Eki]

Eki - either you intentionally distort what people write, or you are truly struggling to understand English. Nowhere in Ann Coulter's column does she blame Hillary for Bill's infidelity and pedophilia.
Then why did she mention those incidents? They are irrelevant unless she wants to use them against Hillary Clinton.

[ArrowsFA1]

If you would like to learn more...
I've learnt that the journal you're pointing us towards is the self-proclaimed defender of "conservative principles" and "one of the leaders in exposing liberal media bias".

Nothing wrong with that at all, but it does makes clear the context in which the article is written, and the political viewpoint it is coming from.

[agwiii]

I've learnt that the journal you're pointing us towards is the self-proclaimed defender of "conservative principles" and "one of the leaders in exposing liberal media bias".

Nothing wrong with that at all, but it does makes clear the context in which the article is written, and the political viewpoint it is coming from.

ArrowsFA1, that was exactly my point in directing you there. Ann is not the Republican Party, she is an independent political columnist. Some of her points are well taken.

[agwiii]

Then why did she mention those incidents? They are irrelevant unless she wants to use them against Hillary Clinton.

Again, Eki, either you intentionally distort what people write, or you are truly struggling to understand English. If you truly are interested in Ann Coulter's motivation, write to her. If you're nice and polite, she'll answer you.

[SOD]

Eki - either you intentionally distort what people write, or you are truly struggling to understand English. Nowhere in Ann Coulter's column does she blame Hillary for Bill's infidelity and pedophilia.

so now Bill Clinton is a pedophile? I've heard that he killed someone, that he was involved in property fraud, both allegations are false.

The Olympics of banality begin. The 2008 US Presidential election positioning is underway early because they can't wait long enough to be done with the current US president. :laugh:

Guarenteed to hear nothing new, contemporary or profund in the next 2 years.

as for Coulter, she'll be still belching out that tripe to those gullible enough to read & believe it.

[SOD]

Again, Eki, either you intentionally distort what people write, or you are truly struggling to understand English. If you truly are interested in Ann Coulter's motivation, write to her. If you're nice and polite, she'll answer you.

your motivations to bolden certain words in her article highlight your motivations.

Coulter's only motivation is to tarnish Hillary & Obama. She can't even argue against the issues, she just resorts to the level that only some people can comprehend.

[ArrowsFA1]

Ann is not the Republican Party, she is an independent political columnist. Some of her points are well taken.
Awwww c'mon agwiii ;) Independently Conservative I'd say :p

"Hilary Watch" is entertaining though :cool:

[Eki]

If you truly are interested in Ann Coulter's motivation, write to her.
I think I should first read a book on "How to Talk to a Conservative (If You Must)".

[Mark in Oshawa]

Hillary wont be President for one reason. No one wants to believe someone would spout off all this crap about being an empowered woman, while she looked the other way while Bill made her look like the only woman in the world who DIDN'T know Bill was a hound chasing any woman in a skirt. Most women would look at that, and think Hillary is an idiot, and despite her "values" would figure Hillary is just too machiavellian to trust with a vote.

I figure Hillary may think she is a legitmate candidate, but as time goes on, reality will be smacking her in the face. Obama mania is already started, and ole Barack hasn't done anything yet to warrant this mania. I think Hillary missed her chance in 2004, Kerry was a village idiot to lose that election...

[Eki]

Kerry was a village idiot to lose that election...
To me it looked more like he wasn't a village idiot enough to win.

[LotusElise]

For those not in the know, Ann Coulter is a strongly right-wing journalist. She may not be affiliated with any political party directly, but she is not a neutral observer either.

[SOD]

For those not in the know, Ann Coulter is a strongly right-wing journalist. She may not be affiliated with any political party directly, but she is not a neutral observer either.

She's a Clinton hater. She was one of the lawyers who was trying to prosecute Clinton for having a blowjob. <sigh>

People talk about divided the US is politically, Ann is one of the causes of that division. She's one of the looney-right who went after CLinton a decade ago.

[edv]

I always held that if you could get Ann Coulter and Michael Moore together in a confined space, that they would mutually annihilate, like matter and antimatter.

[Mark in Oshawa]

I was going to say something witty and intelligent about how SOD just doesn't get what the investigation on Clinton was actually about, but ya know, I dont' know if I understand it all....but I know it has more to it then just a few right wing cranks out to get Willie. IT is much more complicated than that, but that is SOD's MO, just slag it one way and run....

EDV, you would be right, Coulter scares me, and I tend to be of the conservative bent by nature, but watching her explode in a puff of smoke taking the fat pant-load with her would be justice for the planet....

[BDunnell]

I was going to say something witty and intelligent about how SOD just doesn't get what the investigation on Clinton was actually about, but ya know, I dont' know if I understand it all....but I know it has more to it then just a few right wing cranks out to get Willie. IT is much more complicated than that, but that is SOD's MO, just slag it one way and run....

Please enlighten those of us who believe that it was a lot of fuss over very little, and gets blown out of all proportion (so to speak) by right-wingers nowadays who can't bear the thought of the neo-cons getting pushed out of power.

[Hooknose Mike]

She's two-faced and will tell you what you want to hear and tell another person something different if it would get her another vote. She won't win. At least I hope she doesn't. She'll never get my vote. Same goes for 'Osama Obama'.

By the way, Mark in Oshawa, will the Leafs change their logo when the NHL rolls out the new unis next year? Its a crime if they do.

[Knock-on]

, and gets blown out of all proportion (so to speak)

LMFAO :laugh:

This thread is superb people.

Genuine comments where we're getting away from too much mud slinging.

Keep it up :up:

[RaceFanStan]

It would be great to see the Democrats run a real candidate for President.
Kerry, Hillary or Obama isn't what the American voters need !
America needs a President capable of getting this country back to "We the People".
Screw the big oil companies & special interest groups throwing their money around !

It is time the people who actually support the country had a friend in the White House.
The burden is on the working class, it is HIS & HER tax dollars that fills the US Government's tills !

Big companies don't pay taxes, they have lawyers creating tax credits while they bend politicians with chump change. :rolleyes:
Sad state of affairs ... VERY SAD :s

[Ian McC]

After Bush anything is possible, I would not rule her out just yet.

[Gannex]

I'm a McCain enthusiast. He'd make a great president. Hilary, I would not vote for for two reasons: one; she lied blatantly about a briefing book on Whitewater that disappeared from the table outside her room at the White House, and two; her health care plan, which she came up with when Bill Clinton was president, was ridiculous. It showed that she has no idea about the limits of government.

McCain, on the other hand, is a great man, in my opinion.

[SOD]

I was going to say something witty and intelligent about how SOD just doesn't get what the investigation on Clinton was actually about, but ya know, I dont' know if I understand it all....but I know it has more to it then just a few right wing cranks out to get Willie. IT is much more complicated than that, but that is SOD's MO, just slag it one way and run....



ask the guy who runs mediamatters.org was one of the right-wing PR guys in the 1990s. he went full circle now :dork: . ask him what the looney-right was doing against Clinton.

[ArrowsFA1]

She's two-faced and will tell you what you want to hear and tell another person something different if it would get her another vote. She won't win. At least I hope she doesn't. She'll never get my vote.
Is that Hilary Clinton or Ann Coulter :confused: :crazy: :p :

[BDunnell]

Hilary, I would not vote for for two reasons: one; she lied blatantly about a briefing book on Whitewater that disappeared from the table outside her room at the White House, and two; her health care plan, which she came up with when Bill Clinton was president, was ridiculous. It showed that she has no idea about the limits of government.

I recall her appearing on Sesame Street around the time she came up with the heathcare plan, but was also expressing an interest in the environment, and singing a song entitled 'Save Your Energy for Me'. Presumably, she had sung it to her husband without much success.

[Camelopard]

She's two-faced and will tell you what you want to hear and tell another person something different if it would get her another vote. She won't win. At least I hope she doesn't. She'll never get my vote. Same goes for 'Osama Obama'.


In other words she is like every other politician out there.........

[agwiii]

I received this from a friend, who wrote, "The photo is a video capture from a security camera located in the North Corridor that leads to the Senate floor in the US Capitol Building. This is classified material, so do not ask how or where I got it. If you do, you could come up missing."

[harsha]

Hillary can't be worse than Bush can she :?:

[agwiii]

Is that Hilary Clinton or Ann Coulter :confused: :crazy: :p :

What office do you think Ann Coulter is running for, Arrows?

[agwiii]

I'm a McCain enthusiast. He'd make a great president. Hilary, I would not vote for for two reasons: one; she lied blatantly about a briefing book on Whitewater that disappeared from the table outside her room at the White House, and two; her health care plan, which she came up with when Bill Clinton was president, was ridiculous. It showed that she has no idea about the limits of government. McCain, on the other hand, is a great man, in my opinion.

McCain is an interesting man. His war record is impeccable. However, he seems to be sliding a bit in the polls, but this is very early. All the polls today are just name recognition, and not based upon issues.

[agwiii]

I always held that if you could get Ann Coulter and Michael Moore together in a confined space, that they would mutually annihilate, like matter and antimatter.

Interesting concept, but I don't think you'd be able to fit another person into a confined space with Michael Moore. :laugh:

[agwiii]

I think I should first read a book on "How to Talk to a Conservative (If You Must)".

Good idea. Get back to us when you finish the book, the write to Ann, and let us know what she says.

[Mark in Oshawa]

ask the guy who runs mediamatters.org was one of the right-wing PR guys in the 1990s. he went full circle now :dork: . ask him what the looney-right was doing against Clinton.


mediamatters.org? So I should listen to someone from the loony left to know what the loony right was doing? No, I suspect the best way to know what happened there is to read the newspaper articles at the time from all side of the media. I am firmly of the opinion lying to a Grand Jury was not a good plan of action, and he knew that as a lawyer. He wasn't in front of the grand jury to talk about his Monica thing either, it just was a lever that was used on him. Clinton forgot that a man can have an affair and get away with it, but as a President, you cannot lie to a Grand Jury and get away with it.

Heck, it really doesn't matter anyhow, Whitewater was so complicated that in the end no-one had a handle on what went down other than it was just one more time the Clinton's had touched on a slimy underside of a rock and didn't do anything to expose it.

[Mark in Oshawa]

I'm a McCain enthusiast. He'd make a great president. Hilary, I would not vote for for two reasons: one; she lied blatantly about a briefing book on Whitewater that disappeared from the table outside her room at the White House, and two; her health care plan, which she came up with when Bill Clinton was president, was ridiculous. It showed that she has no idea about the limits of government.

McCain, on the other hand, is a great man, in my opinion.

I like McCain, but my man if he runs will be Rudy Giulani. He is a guy who took a screwed up bankrupt city and in 6 years turned it into a safer, financially sound, and cleaner place. He didn't listen to the loony left, he isn't a man on the loony right, and he is a man of conviction. IF he didn't get prostate cancer, Hillary would still be on the outside looking in at the US Senate....

[ArrowsFA1]

I received this from a friend...
I said earlier that we've just been given a preview of the kind of campaign the Republicans will be running this time around and this further illustrates it :down:

I'm sure the Democrats wont be immune from this kind of mud-slinging "campaign" either :rolleyes:

[agwiii]

I said earlier that we've just been given a preview of the kind of campaign the Republicans will be running this time around and this further illustrates it :down:

I'm sure the Democrats wont be immune from this kind of mud-slinging "campaign" either :rolleyes:

Mud-slinging? I thought the camera lens was quite clear. It is important to distinguish between humor and reality.

[agwiii]

I like McCain, but my man if he runs will be Rudy Giulani. He is a guy who took a screwed up bankrupt city and in 6 years turned it into a safer, financially sound, and cleaner place. He didn't listen to the loony left, he isn't a man on the loony right, and he is a man of conviction. IF he didn't get prostate cancer, Hillary would still be on the outside looking in at the US Senate....

Guilanni's stock has gone up since his divorce scandal, but I think the divorce will keep him from running for the nomination. I have friends in Riverdale and White Plains who are simply horrified at the reverse carpetbaggers from Arkansas.

[TOgoFASTER]

Guilanni's stock has gone up since his divorce scandal, but I think the divorce will keep him from running for the nomination. I have friends in Riverdale and White Plains who are simply horrified at the reverse carpetbaggers from Arkansas.

Such friends as Coultergist and General Ripper...
"Do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream? Ice cream, Mandrake? Children's ice cream!...You know when fluoridation began?...1946. 1946, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works. I first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love...Yes, a profound sense of fatigue, a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence. I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women...women sense my power, and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake...but I do deny them my essence."

[Gannex]

I like McCain, but my man if he runs will be Rudy Giulani.
I have to admit, Mark, very grudgingly, that I like Giuliani too. I have to work hard to look at Giuliani with an open mind, though, because when I practiced criminal law, always on the side of the defense, I might add, Rudy Giuliani was the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York. I despised him in those days, but mainly it was prejudice; I found it hard to like any prosecutor, especially prosecutors who I felt were bent on advancing their own careers by appearing "tough on crime", as if such an approach were daring or brave. Wrong! It is not daring to speak out against criminals. To kick them hard when they're already down is cowardice, not bravery, and I always found it hard to respect.

But years have passed, my idealism has faded, I have watched Giuliani proceed beyond his simple-minded approach of "hang 'em and flog 'em", and I have to say I've been impressed. Now, I'd vote for him or McCain quite happily.

[agwiii]

I have to admit, Mark, very grudgingly, that I like Giuliani too. I have to work hard to look at Giuliani with an open mind, though, because when I practiced criminal law, always on the side of the defense, I might add, Rudy Giuliani was the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York. I despised him in those days, but mainly it was prejudice; I found it hard to like any prosecutor, especially prosecutors who I felt were bent on advancing their own careers by appearing "tough on crime", as if such an approach were daring or brave. Wrong! It is not daring to speak out against criminals. To kick them hard when they're already down is cowardice, not bravery, and I always found it hard to respect.

But years have passed, my idealism has faded, I have watched Giuliani proceed beyond his simple-minded approach of "hang 'em and flog 'em", and I have to say I've been impressed. Now, I'd vote for him or McCain quite happily.

Gannex - I suspect that Rudi has mellowed a bit and is no longer the hard nosed prosecutor/zealot. I still think his divorces and "private life" will keep him out of contention. McCain has a lot of positives about him, but I'm getting the sense that his time has passed. What do you think of Mitt Romney?

[Gannex]

Don't know enough about him, agwiii, to have an opinion. I hope you're wrong about McCain's time having passed. The guy is still very sharp, don't you think? When I listen to him speak, I don't get the impression that he's past it.