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Martin-MC
4th June 2008, 19:37
What does everyone reckon to it?

As a series from a paying spectators point of view.

Personally this year is first time ive bothered to venture to the BTCC. Im normally found frequenting the forests or tarmac lanes watching rally cars, or watching 5 lap thrashes of rallcross cars.
Have to say on the whole from Donnington and Croft ive been impressed so far.
Getting into and out of both circuits has been a plesant suprise. Croft rallycross superprix is a fantastic event in October but its murder to get out the circuit, this weekend it was a doddle no que just straight out (was a tad muddy though)!

Ive discovered you need to get you viewing spot early if you want best places. Certainly at Croft!

So far id say value for money at online ticket prices, mind you a day entertainment even at gate prices is better deal than 90 mins at a footy match.

One grip though, a race programme at croft was £6.00, now that was over priced, concidering its content.

So now for Snet my next trip to one of Mr Palmers tracks mmmmm.
Will I go to Silverstone? Dunno how many miles away from the track is the viewing area? Will I need military spec binoculars?

As for the series, its pretty good just needs another couple of "Works" teams. But in current climate not likely.

Les
4th June 2008, 20:55
I'm still hooked so it must be good. I think the support package helps it a lot - there is always something to do.
Price is right - programs I have given up on - always have the same stuff and way too expensive.
Got my fav spots and I know if I want them I need to get there early.
Somethings I don't like - back boards in garages stopping the kids from seeing the cars, too short pitlane walkabouts but too long on the grid.

SEATFreak
5th June 2008, 08:35
Programmes
Totally agree. A £1 increase on last year is shocking considering no more has been added. Still, it is a nice source of memories I guess. I mean, I read past Croft programmes I have the strange effect of memories seemingly flooding back about what it was like that year. For instance I read the 2004 programme and the first thing I think of is the debut of Mardi-Gras and John George in his Peugeot. I also think of just how competitive the Independent entries were. Especially WSR. So it is a nice source of memories. It is just the £1 increase cannot be justified.

Ticket Prices
Cannot say as I haven't been going long enough I reckon to notice if any increase has happened or if it represents value for money. But I think it ain't bad for what you get.

Support Package
Totally agree. The SEAT Cupra Championship and the ELF Clio Cup really make it competitive. I think in the SCC Jonathan Adam is starting to come into form at the right time to make the battle for the title really interesting. It is not now between Byford and Lawson, but it is now between Byford, Lawson and Adam. And in the Clios it's in-depth strength is amazing with the likes of Ben Winrow recognisable names doing well.

BTCC
The top is yet again dominated by VXR but other look good for a decent points haul in every race like Turks, Shedden, Jackson, and SEAT's Jase and DT. Whilst the Independent Drivers trophy race looks really competitive with Jones, Turks and Jackson in a great 3-way scrap for the title.

When this season is over I will rate this season highly as a succesful and competitive one.

Abo
6th June 2008, 11:58
Haven't been to a race in the flesh for ages now. How much is it these days?

SEATFreak
6th June 2008, 12:13
Usually in the region of £20 for Croft.

Marc W
6th June 2008, 12:30
Haven't been to a race in the flesh for ages now. How much is it these days?

http://www.btcc.net/html/racedates.php

If you press on the view button by each of the circuits it tells you as part of the page that comes up, how much each of the circuits charges.

MrJan
6th June 2008, 17:09
Most motorsport is expensive, you even get charged at rallying these days.

Don't think that the BTCC is overpriced particularly as you get a lot of racing (more so from the support like Ginettas and Clios). Trouble is if you have a family to take along too.

As someone who grew up watching Cleland, Hoy, Soper, Harvey et al duking it out I find that the racing is still not quite what I remember but then you always look at the past in tinted specs.

Personally I prefer to go rallying or save up and make a big trip (Classic Le Mans this year :D :D :D )

Martin-MC
6th June 2008, 18:05
Most motorsport is expensive, you even get charged at rallying these days.

Don't think that the BTCC is overpriced particularly as you get a lot of racing (more so from the support like Ginettas and Clios). Trouble is if you have a family to take along too.

As someone who grew up watching Cleland, Hoy, Soper, Harvey et al duking it out I find that the racing is still not quite what I remember but then you always look at the past in tinted specs.

Personally I prefer to go rallying or save up and make a big trip (Classic Le Mans this year :D :D :D )

Thats funny that! Ive spent best part of 25 years following ralling and last 12 going to event after event for World level to BRC to single venue airfield events. Go back 4 years and id done 12 events by this time of year. This year I have yet to bother to attend 1!!!
But quite the opposte ive just watched BTCC from my armchair from early to mid 80's to present day, but until this year never had the urge to go see it in the flesh.
Rallying changed dramatically in last 6 years and not for the better sadly.

stevevxr
6th June 2008, 19:01
From a family point of view i think the BTCC package is great. My two boys love the day out at the circuits.

Full days racing and a walk round the pits and meeting the star... who can complain !!!

You dont get that a Wolves or Man Utd they cost me 50 plus for two hour of football.

BTCC rules.

Dickie L'Amour
7th June 2008, 10:41
It's also free for children (15 and under at Rockingham, Thruxton, Croft, Donington and Silverstone; 12 and under Brands, Oulton, Snetterton). The exception is Knockhill (7 and under).

MrJan
8th June 2008, 17:13
From a family point of view i think the BTCC package is great. My two boys love the day out at the circuits.

Full days racing and a walk round the pits and meeting the star... who can complain !!!

You dont get that a Wolves or Man Utd they cost me 50 plus for two hour of football.

BTCC rules.

At Exeter City you could take the boys to two games for £50 and still have enough money to get yourself a pint at each game. Of course you have to consider the excessive travel involved but on the plus side, Exeter City :D ;)

Another good thing with the BTCC is that there is stuff going on if the kids get bored. Usually there is some demo stand with scaletric or radio controlled cars. For me though rallying is a more enticing prospect because there is more of it near me. For example it'll take 90 minutes to get to Thruxton and I can think of at least 3 rallies in a year around that sort of distance away. Don't even know where the closest track is after that but it would definately be a large outlay on fuel.

Eurotech
9th June 2008, 20:06
Whilst the Independent Drivers trophy race looks really competitive with Jones, Turks and Jackson in a great 3-way scrap for the title.

And the John Guest Hondas!!!!!

SEATFreak
10th June 2008, 12:46
And the John Guest Hondas!!!!!

Of course! With Dad on 84 and son on 64 they haven't scored consistenty and as high enough and as often as Turks, Jackson and Jones aren't really aren't really likely to challenge Turks, Jackson and Jones who are in the 150's but for scoring individually they have been great. Andrew came first (15pts) in the Independents in both rounds 7 & 8 and Mike came third (10pts) in rounds 2, 3, 9 & 13. And their performances have for me been competitive. Plus their immediate rivals in the standings look like Motorbase who are doing well for me too.