Travis Pastrana - World Rally Champion 2007 [Archive]

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Doon

29th May 2008, 16:11

RichardM

29th May 2008, 16:22

I had to read all of that page before I saw the listing towards the bottom of the page that he allegedly was the World Rally Champion in 2007. Don't you guys in the rest of the world know that George Bush has declared that being the Rally America champion is being the World Champion? :)

I will see if I can send a message to someone who may have Travis's cell phone number so he can try to tell his PR department to get the proper listings. Maybe someone in GB has Derek Ringer's address and Derek can tell Travis.
Richard

Doon

29th May 2008, 16:33

Good idea!

It just looks stupid on his PR part to anyone who knows anything about sport, outside the USA, in general.

I found it kind of funny anyway :)

Paolo Italy

29th May 2008, 16:40

Don't you guys in the rest of the world know that George Bush has declared that being the Rally America champion is being the World Champion? :)

IRichard
:D

gloomyDAY

29th May 2008, 16:55

He wishes! I like Travis, but making such a bold claims is ridiculous.

He's not even mature enough to start a title hunt.

bt52b

29th May 2008, 20:21

TP BS :confused:

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/8735/tbbswp3.jpg

DonJippo

29th May 2008, 22:38

He wishes! I like Travis, but making such a bold claims is ridiculous.

I agree makes him look like an idiot... :dozey:

Tomi

29th May 2008, 22:52

I hope he did not forget to drag his mom with him, and thank her at the price gala in Monaco.

RichardM

29th May 2008, 22:56

This seems to be all over the motorsport forums. I even read it on a Subaru forum. I suspect Travis has heard about it by now. If he is in the US that is. Or at least in range of a person with a computer. :)

By the way, the site also claims Travis is 6'2" tall. I am that height and it was my impression when Travis ran Rallye de Paris that he was little shorter than me. We do have similar sized heads though as he had to borrow my helmet. Now some would say that proves my ego is inflated to think that I would compare myself to Travis. :)

Zico

30th May 2008, 00:06

Someone mentioned the mistake on the discussion boards on the site, Theres this Bald guy in a string vest claiming that hes Travis best mate and saying that he was in fact the WRC champ in 07.. :D :D :D

janvanvurpa

30th May 2008, 00:11

http://rally.travispastrana.com/-/About+Travis

Check this out!!!.....

World Rally Champion 2007...

....and apparently the Ojibwe Forest Rally is part of the WRC.

Why do Yanks have a habit of making up so much crap??

Like i've said many times, I like this guys enthusiasm and I hope he does well this weekend in Greece.

You mean he's NOT!!!!????

My life is ruined!
Gonna slash both my wrists!

His teammate Ken Block made him some Gold Shoes ala Mäkinens Golden Shoes so it must be true!

sagsert

30th May 2008, 01:32

Come on guys, can't you see ? They are referring to his PlayStation2 achievements. Who ever wrote that stupidity must be tied to the rear bumper of a course closing car and dragged the whole length of WRC Greece, transfer stages included.

Mk2_Escort_RS

30th May 2008, 02:46

Come on guys, can't you see ? They are referring to his PlayStation2 achievements.

HEY!! I was Playstation2 World Rally Champion for 2007... :D

Mickey T

30th May 2008, 07:27

RichardM

30th May 2008, 18:39

Every body can quit complaining. It has been changed. Does this mean George Bush was wrong?

RallyCat909

31st May 2008, 00:52

By the way, the site also claims Travis is 6'2" tall. I am that height and it was my impression when Travis ran Rallye de Paris that he was little shorter than me. We do have similar sized heads though as he had to borrow my helmet. Now some would say that proves my ego is inflated to think that I would compare myself to Travis. :)

I ran that year too (and won :) ) and Im 6'4, hes the same height as I am.

Too bad about the PR, TP's passionate about the sport and if he knew such threads like this he'd be mortified.

tmx

31st May 2008, 03:23

If I was Travis I'd felt very privilege to have someone like Derek Ringer as a codriver.

janvanvurpa

31st May 2008, 04:07

Every body can quit complaining. It has been changed. Does this mean George Bush was wrong?

Then some good comes out of this (and the other threads all over the Intra-webz) but the real malaise shown but such an outright blunder is that in the eagerness to hype up Travis--and his team mate Block's rather unremarkable victories over the rest of the US field, the people doing the hype don't even know the simplest of things such as the "Rally America" Chmpionship is not the "World Championship".

Pastrana seems like a pleasant and happy guy but as we see in his few WRC entries, he's nowhere near even the top half of a WRC field despite enormous expenditure of resources, indeed he seems to consistantly be near the top of the lower 1/3.
Now considering that he has been Rally America Champion several times that sorta says the level of competition he regularly competes in is pretty slow if the "fastest guy" in North America gets stomped so viciously.

What I'm suggesting is, he'll never grow if he doesn't have to, and if he's already multiple times "Champion" over essentially club level guys, then he NEEDS to spend more time getting kicked around someplace where there's LOTS of hard competition.

I thinks some of the Finns here should help find a way to get Pastrana into some F-Cup events, maybe 10-12 events so he can learn something.

Well all you Finn-djävlar, vad säger ni?

I think he has the spirit to do good, but he's held back because he's locked into this Subaru USA thing and as we see from the goofy blunder that started the thread, they have no clue what they are doing.

janvanvurpa

31st May 2008, 04:13

it's odd that someone with his achievements needs to embellish them.

makes me believe he wasn't aware of this when it went up, but he should be aware of it now.

funnily enough, i asked DR on the weekend whether he could ever see a place in one of his WRC cars for Travis and he said, emphatically, no.

so no WRC drive, much less a championship...

Did he offer any hints as to why?

Can you clarify the emphatic part?

Or will the word filters leave you writing only Richards said "****ing no ****in' way!" ?

L5->R5/CR

31st May 2008, 05:59

Pastrana seems like a pleasant and happy guy but as we see in his few WRC entries, he's nowhere near even the top half of a WRC field despite enormous expenditure of resources, indeed he seems to consistantly be near the top of the lower 1/3.
Now considering that he has been Rally America Champion several times that sorta says the level of competition he regularly competes in is pretty slow if the "fastest guy" in North America gets stomped so viciously

He has had a couple of good stage times, even some in series.

I'm not trying to say he is incredible. But he has put up some decent times, something at least to indicate he can get closer.

He has just spent so much time Super Rallying except on Day Two of Argentina that there is no way to tell how far off of the pace he really is (John even you can admit that there haven't been enough stage times to tell just how far off the pace he is).

My only point is is that we don't really know how far off of the pace he is because he keeps breaking the freaking car all the time (sounds a lot like 2005 here in the US, still note, I am saying he is off of the pace).

Getting more seat time out of the US is the only way to the WRC but he still has a year or two more before he should be relegated to a lifetime of seat buying and gentleman driving on the world circuit...

I just wish his freaking PR team would take 10 seconds to do a proper job instead of milking their cash cow for all it is worth...

RichardM

31st May 2008, 14:20

As usual, john vanlandinham has to denigrate all of US rallying. Of course, every one knows that john really deserves a WRC ride since he almost won once in a SAAB 96.

janvanvurpa

31st May 2008, 20:41

As usual, john vanlandinham has to denigrate all of US rallying. Of course, every one knows that john really deserves a WRC ride since he almost won once in a SAAB 96.

Miller, you troll, I am not "denigrating" US rally.
To denigrate "it" I would have to add a qualitative addendum such as
(only an example) "Everybody in rally in the US is really slow and therefore they are bad people".

I've always been a club level guy in the rally sport and all my friends are clubbies too, and most are slower than I am, that doesn't mean they're bad.
Conversely, just because somebody is marginally faster than the average guy on the street doesn't mean they are a "good" person.
Or a "bad' person.

You are not a bad person because you are inconceivably slow and average on stages somewhere around 60-65 km/hr (when the leaders average 110-120 km/hr), you are a bad person because you purposely stretch truth, purposely quote out of context, and purposely misconstrue what people are saying with an evil intent. And you willfully lie.
You do all this including the lying so easily and constantly that I'd guess you were a Republican if I didn't know better.

Speed is a relative idea.
It is pretty clear that the skill level, and closely related to that is the speed on stage is pretty low when the "fastest" guys get kicked and stomped into bloody pulps when they enter WRC events.

And just because typical NorthAmerican events have, by World standards, very high average speeds it doesn't mean that the drivers are particularly skilled or extraordinarily brave. We simply have bigger wider roads and BIGGER trees and so less tricky, "technical" stages.

Again that is not an insult it simply says that if guys get used to driving on simplistic roads with little competition then they will not develop the broader skills range, and aggressiveness they will need to continue development of their skills.

I can see why you don't understand this as you have never tried to develop your driving skills and I must presume that you have never seen a Swedish or Finnish "National" class GpH or GpF so you have no idea of what good club level drivers are like.

Have you ever been to a Rally anywhere in Europe?

Anyway you should stop trying to backhandedly insult me everywhere I write, it's is obvious you believe you have some mandate to dog my heels, and it's clear to all you're being a troll and baiting.

RichardM

1st June 2008, 00:34

No john, I have a very low tolerance for foul mouthed little people who try to tear down a sport that I have be involved with for over 37 years.

You no longer compete even when your friends offer to cover all your expenses. I am sure you have an excuse or 3. Perhaps you have received a secret e-mail saying that you are banned for life with every sanctioning body in the US. So how can you know that your friends are slower than you since you won't drive? By golly though you are right that I drove slow in my last event. But I entered and finished. You won't even enter.

bowler

1st June 2008, 04:22

take it somewhere else.

This is a thread about Pastrana, and the weird claim that he was World Champion.

He is good, but he isn't that good.

RichardM

1st June 2008, 05:41

take it somewhere else.

This is a thread about Pastrana, and the weird claim that he was World Champion.

He is good, but he isn't that good.

Not yet. But we can hope. And the weird claim was not made by Travis but by someone who obviously is not familar with rally.

In all seriousness, I think we have two young drivers coming up who may have a better chance than Travis. Chris Duplessi (I know I am misspelling his name) is only 20 and doing very well. Then we have a 17 year old also doing well.

And by the way, Chris is extremely brave. He rode with me last summer as an instructor at the Team O'Neil driving school. :)