[ERC] Rally of Poland

[Jarek Z]

Rally of Poland will be held in Mikolajki on June 6-8 as the 4th round of European Rally Championship. The entry list will be published on Thursday, but we already know some rumours:

Holowczyc - Pug 207 S2000
Fontana - Mitsubishi Lancer
Betti - Mitsubishi Lancer
Flodin - Subaru Impreza

Official website:
http://www.rajdpolski.pl

[urabus-denoS2000]

Fontana with a Lancer???????????????????????????

[VFTS]

Rally of Poland will be held in Mikolajki on June 6-8 as the 4th round of European Rally Championship. The entry list will be published on Thursday, but we already know some rumours:

Holowczyc - Pug 207 S2000
Fontana - Mitsubishi Lancer
Betti - Mitsubishi Lancer
Flodin - Subaru Impreza

Official website:
www.rajdpolski.pl (http://www.rajdpolski.pl)

Patrik Flodin is not a rumour, he will compete in Poland with an Impreza N14(Kuzaj-car)

[Mirek]

Yes, Fontana with Lancer, no rumour :)

[urabus-denoS2000]

Who will prepare Fontanas Lancer?

[Tom206wrc]

How many S2000s here ??? :confused:

[CricketsFilm]

Fontana with a Lancer???????????????????????????

This race, not in start season program of Corrado, and so he drives a Lancer...

[Raven]

Today the entry list will be published. Be patient... especially Tom ;)

[Tom206wrc]

OK Raven :D

[Raven]

Not yet Tom... :D ;)

[Tom206wrc]

ENTRYLIST !!!! :bounce:

http://rajdpolski.pl/files/lista_ERC.pdf

[wwbroe]

ENTRYLIST !!!! :bounce:

http://rajdpolski.pl/files/lista_ERC.pdf


Nice entrylist, maybe even a little bit of contenders for Brian Bouffier? :D

[Raven]

Poor, poor... VERY poor entry list :( I'm really disappointed...

[PLuto]

Poor, poor... VERY poor entry list :( I'm really disappointed...

Me too. I expected something better... I think, the biggest problem for polish entry list is surface...

[Raven]

It's the signal for our officiels to sign contract with IRC. Will they see it or will they be blinded by WRC?

[Tom206wrc]

By the way, why the absence of Grzegorz Grzyb ??? :confused:

[Raven]

He will only drive Rzeszowski Rally...

[PLuto]

In the same termine of Rajd Polski, Grzyb will start in Hungary on Szombathely rally.

[HaCo]

Hmm, IMO the entrylist is ok!

[Raven]

No HaCO, there is no single top european driver, look at the entry list from previous years.

[Jarek Z]

I think, the biggest problem for polish entry list is surface...

Surface is the same every year. The problem is somewhere else...

[PLuto]

Surface is the same every year. The problem is somewhere else...

But last years wan't entry list so good... If you want to bring foreign crews, you must be included in interesting championship, have good contacts and friendship with drivers and last way are money...

[havk]

No HaCO, there is no single top european driver, look at the entry list from previous years.

I think Flodin is top european driver. Entrylist is disappoiting but still the fight for win could be interesting. I see five candidates for the win: Bouffier, Flodin, Kosciuszko, Solowow, Holowczyc. Staniszewski, Manifranto, Fontana, Czopik, Kajetanowicz could also be fast. Interesting how on gravel N-group cars will compete with S2000... Very sad about Kuzaj - with him rally would be much more interesting.

[havk]

My pickems ;)

1. Bouffier
2. Kosciuszko
3. Flodin
4. Solowow
5. Holowczyc
6. Kajetanowicz
7. Staniszewski
8. Dytko

[Raven]

Sołowow in front of Hołowczyc? Strange :)

My pickems:
1. Hołowczyc
2. Bouffier
3. Kościuszko (not sure he will finish)
4. Sołowow
5. Kajetanowicz
6. Staniszewski
7. Isik
8. Flodin
9. Sztuka
10. Dytko

[Tom206wrc]

No Fontana or Betti in your Top10 ??? :confused:

[havk]

Yes, you're right. Holowczyc probably should be ahead of Solowow in my pickems. But I remeber his awesome driving in 2006... And Solowow has much more experience in S2000 cars, and is driving regulary, Holek only from time to time. But what is Isik doing ahead of Flodin in yours!? After thinking: 1. Kosciuszko 2. Bouffier 3. Holowczyc 4. Flodin 5. Solowow 6. Kajetanowicz 7. Staniszewski 8. Dytko 9. Czopik 10. Fontana. I believe Kosciuszko will show great performance on gravel after his win in Sardinia Rally. He's driving a lot of gravel rallies in WRC, and should be faster on this surface. Why no Donchev, Isik, Manifranto, Betti no in top ten? Well, Polish drivers are very fast on their home routes...

[Tom206wrc]

Holowczyc LIVERY !!!!! :eek: :eek:

http://rallyonline.pl/index.php?1&modex=pnews&&s=17044

[wwbroe]

Holowczyc LIVERY !!!!! :eek: :eek:

http://rallyonline.pl/index.php?1&modex=pnews&&s=17044

Very nice livery for the Peugeot (on first vieuw) :D

[Raven]

Why Isik? Punto is better than Impreza :)

Holek is a natural talent, Sołowow is not. Holowczyc was pushing to the limit every car he had, Solek wasn't (look at his results in Clio and Punto). And of course Holek is driving the stages when going to the shop for morning newspaper and croissants ;-)

[N.O.T]

ERC rounds not in IRC will suffer from poor entry lists this year....i don't dare to think what the effect will be on rally ELPA since it runs the same date as san remo....

[Tom206wrc]

Bigger image of Holek livery on http://www.kimrally.pl :)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

The entry list isn't great as it was some years ago... but I still waiting for a nice rally... ;)

I hope Holek can show is potential once again :)

[Raven]

i don't dare to think what the effect will be on rally ELPA
The list will be very similar, greek drivers + average european drivers. Rally Poland is at the same time as italian Rally Salento.

[CricketsFilm]

No Fontana or Betti in your Top10 ??? :confused:

The last Special Stage on Gravel for Fontana was... if I remember very well... on 1995 or 1996 with Fiat 500.....

[Tom206wrc]

Pics of Holek's car in live :D :D

http://rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T[id]=3130

[Tom206wrc]

Now pics of Holek testing available ;)

[havk]

The last Special Stage on Gravel for Fontana was... if I remember very well... on 1995 or 1996 with Fiat 500.....

http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=profile&driverid=1893

Great Britain'01

[Raven]

SSS today at 18:15 live on http://www.tvp.pl/tvpsport/programy/seria.html?dzial_name=wyscigi.samochodowe&news_name=wyscigi.samochodowe.rajd.polski.mikolajk i.2008

[Tom206wrc]

Apparently Michal Kosciuszko was fastest during shakedown :confused:

http://www.autoklub.pl/20335,hotnews.html

[Tom206wrc]

Confirmation of the shakedown times ;)

http://www.rallyonline.pl/index.php?1&modex=pnews&&s=17120

[HaCo]

Where is Holowich?

[CricketsFilm]

Online video and OnBoard of shakedowni, Corrado Fontana-Carlo Cassina (Mitsubishi Lancer), on:

http://www.cricketsfilm.tv "Corrado Fontana Channel" or http://www.corradofontana.it

[Tom206wrc]

Where is Holowich?



I suppose he didn't run shakedown because he tested already before :confused:

[urabus-denoS2000]

SSS live in 5 minutes???

[urabus-denoS2000]

Why is there no picture???

[Raven]

http://www.itvp.pl/
Click on the news with Fiat Punto S2000.

[urabus-denoS2000]

It wants me to download something,Im not doing it...

[Raven]

I'm watching it right now, the stage is in the reverse order.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I still need to install something,is there any other link?

[Raven]

Sorry, I don't know any other. Is the download window in polish?
This is official website of polish national tv, I think it's safe.

[Mirek]

It just wanted to instal a video codec to me ;)

Has the live coverage already started? I had an advertisment and now a black screen...

[Raven]

Yeah, Piotr Maciejewski (Swift S1600) just finished the stage.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I installed it and everything is working fine

[HaCo]

'Direct' link: http://www.itvp.pl/player.html?mode=2&channel=452&video_id=20416#

[HaCo]

Real direct link: http://www.itvp.pl/pub/sdt/itvp.asx?request_id=78.23.86.25_SnIuGCrt5dKvPZ0y7q LJ8w1JKtzdh8Ez_1212773123444&rand=27166632430380341212773086001

[HaCo]

It is a very nice super special stage IMO.

Holowich against the other polish guy was awesome!! 207 duel. Sharp time for his Holowich since he hasn't been driving for long.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Yeah,I agree,Koscziusko and Holowyzcz were great

[Mirek]

Holek was a ittle bit too tidy. Opposite to him, Kosciuszko was veeery sideways :D I also liked a drive of Luca Betti and Volkan Isik from spectator's point of wiev. But I saw only last 10 cars... Anyway one of those better super special stages.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Isik was very sideways and elegant,it was really nice to watch.Kosciuszko was on the other hand VERY sideways and he was all over the place,he evem hit the fence.
Kuchar 1:51
Solowow 1:51,2
Flodin 1:51,3
Kosciuszko 1:51,4

[Raven]

Tomasz Kuchar won the first stage. But the real competition starts tomorrow morning.

And we are off for a long long journey towards the Mazurian lake district. See you on the rally guys!

Raven and Jarek Z

[HaCo]

Bouffier setting the fastest pace through the first real stage. I hope it won't be too easy for him this rally and we get some real competition!

[Wim_Impreza]

No, it was Bębenek who was the fastest in SS2. ;)

Only a 7th time for Hołowczyc and a 8th for Kuchar. Fontana lost almost one minute.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Foreigners can't do nothing against Polish drivers.. I was hopping for a better performance from Flodin...

[Wim_Impreza]

Indeed, but we must say that the foreigners must sweep the road. Despite that, their speed is not what I expected too.

[HaCo]

Oh, I was too fast then... :)

Kos and Holow faster than Bouffier now, but let's wait for the rest of the field. The European drivers are dissapointing...

[Wim_Impreza]

What a time for Bębenek on SS3!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Solowow was 15 sec. faster than Holek in SS4 :eek:

[wwbroe]

]Solowow was 15 sec. faster than Holek in SS4 :eek:

But Bouffier is still going 1,5 sec faster then Solowow, let's wait for Bebenek's time to see overall standings. ;)

[Tom206wrc]

I would never have expected Bebenek and Dytko being faster and as fast as S2000s :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Is Frycz car bloking stage for next drivers ??? :confused:

[wwbroe]

Is Frycz car bloking stage for next drivers ??? :confused:

I don't think so, because the car caught fire after the finish of the stage. ;)

[Madeira]

Disapointing performance for Flodin.In the previous years he showed more speed. Does anyone knows if he had any problem on this car??

[Mirek]

Madeira: Have You ever seen an N14 which is working well? I haven't...

[Madeira]

]Madeira: Have You ever seen an N14 which is working well? I haven't...

No Mirek, you are absolutley right, however I think the gap could not to be too big as this... :)

[Madeira]

what kind of wings has Bębenek's EVO IX??? Mama mia...!!!

[Tom206wrc]

How on Earth can it be possible to be such UNLUCKY ???? :mad:

50s penalty for Kosciuszko at the assistance(he was 3rd overall before that) !!! Always he gets problems when his pace is almost equal to Bouffier !!! How can it be ??? ;(

[Wim_Impreza]

Tom, it is clear that Kościuszko is not so professional as Bouffier or Hołowczyc. You must be happy, there are 3 Peugeot's in top 4.

What to say about Dytko, he was third after stage 3 and was given a notionol time in SS4. Without his own fault, Dytko lost 8 places...

[Tom206wrc]

...
What to say about Dytko, he was third after stage 3 and was given a notionol time in SS4. Without his own fault, Dytko lost 8 places...



Strange because on the website they write "SS4: crews after team #20 are given a notional time"...that means that Dytko shouldn't have got the penalty(he's #20)... :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Holowczyc in SS6 ??? :confused:


Edit: differential problem like Rossetti currently in Italy :( :mad:

[wwbroe]

Solowow also loosing more then a minute on SS6 :confused: :mad:

[Mirek]

Differential problems are quite often in 08 Peugeot 207 evolutions...

[Tom206wrc]

Solowow also loosing more then a minute on SS6 :confused: :mad:



Maybe in Holowczyc dust :confused:

[urabus-denoS2000]

Im not surprised with Dytko,he was extremely fast last year.
I dont know what you expected from European drivers...

[skory]

Yes Tom, Sołowow and also Czopik lost time in Hołowczyc dust... All 207 is trying hard but Bębenek is doing fantastic job.

[Mirek]

We'll see how sweeping roads tomorrow will slow down Bebenek. But anyway his performance is awesome.

[CricketsFilm]

Inseted Online 3 new vdeos of first Leg of Corrado Fontana-Carlo Cassina (Mitsubishi Lancer), on:

http://www.cricketsfilm.tv "Corrado Fontana Channel"

[Tom206wrc]

Can and will Bryan Bouffier catch Michal Bebenek tomorrow(17s separate them after last superspecial) ??? :D

Big big unluck for Krzystof Holowczyc :(

[havk]

My thoughts about rally. First of all - Bebenek - he always was fast on gravel, but on this rally he's really fantastic. Kosciuszko - he had problems with the car and lost chances for victory :( But he won two stages and his pace is also awesome. Holek - problems with the differential - maybe tomorrow will show some good times. Solowow - very good, lost 1 minute behind Holowczyc on SS6 (the same happend to Czopik). Bouffier - as always very fast. Dytko, Staniszewski - also very fast on gravel. Kuchar - in N14 better than usual , last four stages was driving on asphalt suspension, and as always won super SS!! Flodin - rather disappointed, I thought he'd be faster. Frycz - good driving but the Impreza burned. Isik and other European drivers out of top ten - as I said earlier Polish drivers are very fast on home rallies. I think tomorrow will be great battle between Bouffier and Bebenek - I'd see Polish driver as a winner, but Bouffier IMO is favourite.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I think that by now you can consdider Bouffier as Polish.Now hes something like Bouffiewyzyc ;) ;) ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Bouffierski !!! :p :

[havk]

I must say that I very like Bryan Bouffier but there is one thing... He totally "crush" top Polish drivers. He wins rally after rally. Only Kosciuszko can fight with him, I think also Kuzaj, Kajetanowicz, and maybe Kuchar could compete with him if driving S2000. I'm waiting for seeing Kuzaj again in real A-group rally car!!!

[Tom206wrc]

It looks like Dytko saw his "notional time" penalty removed(he's 4th overall after leg 1) :confused:

[urabus-denoS2000]

Bouffierski !!! :p :

Bryansz Bouffiezski !!! :p :p :p

[wwbroe]

Looks like road position is important on this second day of rallying, as both Bebenek and Bouffier are loosing some time on the first stage this morning. Bebenek is still a little bit faster as Bouffier, but Holowycs making good time and also Flodin ans especially Stanisewzky. ;)

Edit: Kosciusko went of the road at this special stage (SS9), crew ok

[wwbroe]

Bebenek on a charge on second stage, taking another twelve seconds out of Bouffier and extending his overall lead to 35 sec. Again second fastest time for Holec. :D

[[Madeira-Rally]]

What a great victory for Bebenek!!

Great to see that there is some drivers that can fight against S2000 ;)

[Mirek]

Kosciuszko after a huge crash:
http://www.img.motoplaneta.pl/images/ro/38/2008/08turbo01kosciuszko_460.jpg

Ruta's Subaru:
http://img.rallyonline.pl/news2/2008/08turbo01ruta_460.jpg

Frycz's Subaru:
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/foto/200806/news20080607_20344.jpg

[HaCo]

Looks very bad, all three cases...

[HaCo]

CPWRC posted this on autosportforum.be:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pivi4XITOdY

[CricketsFilm]

Inserted online, new videos and onboard of leg 2 of Fontana-Cassina (Mitsubishi Lancer), on:

http://www.cricketsfilm.tv "Corrado Fontana Channel"

Tomorrow morning I will insert the Crash...

[Raven]

Photo of Ruta's car is from Elmot Rally.

Very high temperatures during the rally and a lot of dust (as always :) ). We were about 3 corners from Kosciuszko's accidnet. We didn't see it, be we definitely heard several big bangs! He had a roll after a bad landing.
I'm still shocked by Bebenek's performance!!!
I will soon post a photo gallery.

[CricketsFilm]

Online also the OnBoard of crash of Corrado Fontana,
on:

http://www.cricketsfilm.tv "Corrado Fontana Channel"

[Mirek]

Raven: Ups, sorry :)

[Jarek Z]

I dont know what you expected from European drivers...

We expected at least some good driving. Is this too much?

All in all it was a good event. The only bad side of this rally were safety tapes in strange places, stupid safety marshalls and slow foreign drivers. I will let you know when my photos are online, but it will take me some time...

[Jarek Z]

Michal Bebenek at the finish ramp: „I’m very happy. It is incredible. I dedicate the win to late Janusz Kulig.”

http://www.rally-erc.com/foto/gallery/35/Poland_day2_16.jpg

[Raven]

Frycz's car.

http://images34.fotosik.pl/281/cc7dabe203d6ed7c.jpg

[urabus-denoS2000]

Michal Bebenek at the finish ramp: „I’m very happy. It is incredible. I dedicate the win to late Janusz Kulig.”


That is trully great and very nice from him.Congratulations!!!

[Tom206wrc]

yep congrats to Bebenek !!! :up:

[Raven]

Bouffierski !!!
Before the rally Bryan said something about polish citizenship :)

[Raven]

Kościuszko's accident:

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=FqePs8WcZYU
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=pivi4XITOdY

[mousti]

]Madeira: Have You ever seen an N14 which is working well? I haven't...
I have this weekend with Kevin Abbring Jr behind the wheel, he could follow the fast rhythm of Vd Heuvel with his Evo IX

[Mirek]

At least someone...

[Raven]

My photos from the rally:
http://www.rajdy.v10.pl/65,Rajd,Polski,2008,galeria,667.html

[[Madeira-Rally]]

My photos from the rally:
http://www.rajdy.v10.pl/65,Rajd,Polski,2008,galeria,667.html

As always... great photos Raven ;)

[Raven]

As always? It's my third rally photo gallery ever!!! :)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

As always? It's my third rally photo gallery ever!!! :)

Sorry.. I was confusing you with Jarek :s mokin:

[Raven]

I thought so! :)

[Mirek]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjDh-060l5A&feature=related

Huge crash of the crew Chwyst/Hundla. Thankfuly it wasn't even worse...

[Raven]

Robert Hundla broke his leg...

[Jarek Z]

And finally here is my photo gallery from the rally. Can you believe I'm still shooting with analog camera? :)

http://www.rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&pg_[go]=20&modex=pokaz&T[id]=3180

[Jarek Z]

Polish championship standings after 4 rounds:
1. Bryan Bouffierski :D - 30
2. Kajetan Kajetanowicz - 25
3. Leszek Kuzaj - 18
4. Michał Bębenek - 17
5. Michał Sołowow - 12
6. Michał Kościuszko - 10

[Jarek Z]

European Championship standings can be found here:
http://www.rally-erc.com/standings.php

[janez l.]

And finally here is my photo gallery from the rally. Can you believe I'm still shooting with analog camera? :)

http://www.rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&pg_[go]=20&modex=pokaz&T[id]=3180

Hardly :) Havent seen one of those in a while.

Dude, you need to get with the program :)