Sata Rally Acores 2008

[stmoto]

Hello,

Does anyone know the website to the rally Sata Acores?? Also all contact information is needed for organization.

Thank you.

[Madeira]

Try Here:

http://www.gdc.com.pt/


http://www.satarallyeacores.com/ (under construction)

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[Madeira]

The organizers of Rally Sata presented yesterday the next edition of rally and have confirmed the presence of several spanish drivers like:

Enrique Garcia Ojeda-Peugeot 207 S2000

Xavi Pons- Mitsubishi Evo IX

Alex Villanueva, Albert Llovera (Fiat Punto S2000) e Pedro Font

Sata rally Açores is a IRC supporter.

[Madeira]

Bruno Magalhães was the fastest in Shakedown

Shakedown times (http://www.amaweb.pt/2008/satarallye/index.php?prova=&t=0&p=-1&e=0&mode=7&view=0&oldmode=&l=PT)

Pics (http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satasha08/)

[wwbroe]

I had a look at website and i see other results of shakedown, or did some drivers improve on their times on later passages?
http://www.amaweb.pt/2008/satarallye/

[Madeira]

I had a look at website and i see other results of shakedown, or did some drivers improve on their times on later passages?
http://www.amaweb.pt/2008/satarallye/


No wwbroe, this is the SSS times which was held today evening, and I missed... :)

[wwbroe]

Ok Madeira, you are right, i missed out. It is the times of superspecialstage that are marked here. Let's see tomorrow if Pons kan keep up to Magalhaes. Looking forward to see times from the "real" stages. ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Why no time yet for SS2 ??? Am I too early(GMT time confusion) or problem again for the times on results website ??? :confused:

[Madeira]

Why no time yet for SS2 ??? Am I too early(GMT time confusion) or problem again for the times on results website ??? :confused:


No Tom, the local hour is GMT-1. (-2 to the French hour)

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=271

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Madeira...I was too early then ;)

[JAM]

The Thursday SS was better then a lot of them on WRC.

http://iris.cpidt.pt/projectos/sportmotores/img/fotos/17811.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Why is SS3 stopped after the first three drivers ??? Something happened to Ojeda ?? :confused:

[JAM]

A picture from the shakedown:

http://iris.cpidt.pt/projectos/sportmotores/img/galeria/Gal_351_sata12.jpg

More pictures

http://iris.cpidt.pt/sportmotores2003/do?com=DS;8679031811;101;+PAGE(1506)+BL(B1)+CO(B2) +ID(351);

[Madeira]

Why is SS3 stopped after the first three drivers ??? Something happened to Ojeda ?? :confused:

No everything is ok with Ojeda!!

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Madeira I prefer it to be a technical problem with the result site... :p :

[Madeira]

yes is a question of technical problem with live timing. Ojeda finished stage!
I have been listening on the radio...and he did not win the stage (+15,3)

[Tom206wrc]

Magalhaes is leading in front of Peres and Fontès after SS3... :)

[Madeira]

SS4-José Pedro Fontes-Puncture!

[Tom206wrc]

SS4-José Pedro Fontes-Puncture!


It can happen to anyone on such gravel rallies :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Why was Fontès 7 minutes late out of assistance ??? Had it to do with his puncture on SS4 ??? :confused:

[Madeira]

Why was Fontès 7 minutes late out of assistance ??? Had it to do with his puncture on SS4 ??? :confused:

I'm not sure but I think it was. He has destroyed completely the wheel and maybe he could be damaged the suspension...

[wwbroe]

Franco did pass Pons after stage 5 in overall classification and is now third overall. Dissapointing performance of Garcia-Ojeda in my point of vieuw. ;)

[Madeira]

Nani Roma ist out of race with electrical troubles...

[Madeira]

Franco did pass Pons after stage 5 in overall classification and is now third overall. Dissapointing performance of Garcia-Ojeda in my point of vieuw. ;)

Yes, he is not a gravel specialist and has not a good knowledge of the rally!

[wwbroe]

Yes, he is not a gravel specialist and has not a good knowledge of the rally!

That is correct Madeira, but he is the IRC-champion of last year, and he wasn't doing to bad on gravel rounds of last year's IRC championship, so i expected a lot more of him, even if he doesn't know the roads to well. Still disappointment in my point of vieuw. ;)

[Madeira]

Xavi Pons are doing interesting times, very close to the Portuguese drivers with the same car.
Garcia Ojeda said the rally is very difficult for him, with so many secrets on the stages, but he are enjoying the experience..

[Madeira]

Wow!!! Fiat won a stage. In nowadays is a great achievement... :p

[Tom206wrc]

Good time by Vitor Pascoal on SS6 too... ;)

[Madeira]

Good time by Vitor Pascoal on SS6 too... ;)

Yes, Tom, for the first time this season Vitor Pascoal is showing how competitive he can be!!

[katxal]

Xavi Pons are doing interesting times, very close to the Portuguese drivers with the same car.
Garcia Ojeda said the rally is very difficult for him, with so many secrets on the stages, but he are enjoying the experience..

also a new co-driver for this rally...

[Tom206wrc]

Magalhaes also has a new codriver to replace Castro... :confused:

[katxal]

Magalhaes also has a new codriver to replace Castro... :confused:

ojeda changed 2 times in a week his codriver...magalhaes made some test with his new codriver before the rallye...also magalhaes is an official driver, ojeda if crashes the car says bye bye to his budget and also the other rallyes that will compete...and...for sure ojeda is not an specialist on gravel...

[Tom206wrc]

OK Katxal ;)

[Madeira]

But in this case Katxal, the main or total sponsor of Ojeda in the rally of Açores is the organization, he did not need spend any amount of money to run!

[katxal]

But in this case Katxal, the main or total sponsor of Ojeda in the rally of Açores is the organization, he did not need spend any amount of money to run!

for sure, i´m not defending his methods...remember he´s former champion but he didnt win any rally...but...i mean that his budget is soooooo weak...

[Tom206wrc]

So after leg 1...

Magalhaes in the lead in front of Peres and Pons... ;)

[wwbroe]

Results after day 1 in Acores:

1. Magalhaes
2. Peres at 22"5
3. Pons at 54"4
4. Garcia-Ojeda at 1'07"4
5. Franco at 1'14"0
6. Pascoal at 1'18"0

[Tom206wrc]

GO QUIQUE !!! GO !!!! :bounce:

[Madeira]

SS11- Peres lost the second place. Made a spin on this stage!!

[Tom206wrc]

Ojeda lost 4th place to Pascoal...

[Tom206wrc]

Xavi Pons in SS12 ??? :confused:

[Madeira]

SS12-Xavi Pons out-Rolled

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks for the info Madeira...


I hope Pascoal will catch Peres to make a Peugeot 1-2 on this rally :p :

[Tom206wrc]

Big loss for Ojeda in SS14 making him lose 2 positions :s

[Madeira]

I don't know if Ojeda has any problem with the car, this second leg is being a disaster for him!

It's important to say that each leg is counting like one rally for Portuguese Championship and José Pedro Fontes are doing an interesting job. He is behind Bruno only by 1,6 seconds!(today)

Finally I have to say that I'm very impressed with the young spanish driver from Canary Islands Yeray Lemes...

[Madeira]

SS15-Problems for Peres and Ojeda is out.
Vitor Pascoal takes the second place!!

[wwbroe]

Final results:

1. Magalhaes
2. Pascoal at 2'05"1
3. Fontes at 2'26"8
4. Franco at 3'19"5
5. Peres at 4'17"4
6. Lopes at 4'41"6

[Luis Pacheco]

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[Luis Pacheco]

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[Luis Pacheco]

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[Luis Pacheco]

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[Luis Pacheco]

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[Luis Pacheco]

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[Luis Pacheco]

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[Sardalense]

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This picture is from the new stage "Coroa da Mata"?

[Luis Pacheco]

No. This one is from Ribeira Grande stage.
You can see some pictures of "Coroa da Mata" from this site: http://www.azoresimagebank.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=276341

[Sardalense]

I asked you about the picture because the road is very strange for what we usually see in the common pictures from SATA Rally Açores.

[Luis Pacheco]

To everyone who don´t know the kind of stages on the Azores Rallye, take a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYjdxm_3cRo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt2jk3Gpj6g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht6qD65Ja4I

[Luis Pacheco]

From 1993 to 2003 the rally belonged to the ERC with the coeff. 10 and now scores to the European Cup - West Zone.
Many drivers ran here, like Yves Loubet, Fabrizio Tabaton, Sebastien Lindholm, Alister McRae, Gregoire de Mevius, Stig Blomqvist, Harri Rovanpera, Bruno Thiry, Markko Martin, Juha Kankkunen, Thomas Radstrom, etc.
Alister McRae ran in the Azores three times. First in 1997 with the Subaru Impreza WRX from Procar. He retired with gear box broken when he was first overall and in 1999 with the Impreza WRC from Cilti Sport he retired like in 2003 with the 206 WRC of BSA.

Pictures taken by me of Alister:
http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado07/images/amcrae97.jpg (http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado07/images/amcrae97.jpg)
http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado3/images/2.jpg (http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado3/images/2.jpg)
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1158/dscn6538ib0.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1158/dscn6538ib0.jpg)

Bruno Thiry (won in 1997)
http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado07/images/thiry.jpg (http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado07/images/thiry.jpg)
http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado207/images/bthiry97.jpg (http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado207/images/bthiry97.jpg)

Markko Martin (won in 2000)
http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado207/images/martin00.jpg (http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado207/images/martin00.jpg)

Sebastien Lindholm (we ran three times, never finished)
http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado207/images/lindholm96.jpg (http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado207/images/lindholm96.jpg)

Gregoire de Mevius won in 1999:
http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado07/images/mevius.jpg (http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado07/images/mevius.jpg)

Pier Cesar Baroni (we was twice in the Azores)
http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado07/images/baroni96.jpg (http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado07/images/baroni96.jpg)
http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado3/images/22.jpg (http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/satapassado3/images/22.jpg)

[james_bond]

The organizers of Rally Sata presented yesterday the next edition of rally and have confirmed the presence of several spanish drivers like:

Enrique Garcia Ojeda-Peugeot 207 S2000

Xavi Pons- Mitsubishi Evo IX

Alex Villanueva, Albert Llovera (Fiat Punto S2000) e Pedro Font

Sata rally Açores is a IRC supporter.

For Next Year is a Rally Irc :p :

[flat out fred]

Hi Does anyone know if the 2009 Sata Rally event is gravel or asphalt, the I.R.C calender has it down as Asphalt but ithas always ran on gravel in the past

[Mirek]

Gravel as usual (with some tarmac parts of the stages).

[J4MIE]

These stages look extremely tricky, very narrow with a lot of desceptive junctions. Very difficult :up:

[Luis Pacheco]

http://alojamentos19.com/~ralis/morellisss09.jpg

http://alojamentos19.com/~ralis/satatomaform09.html

After the end of the Rally of Monte Carlo was a meeting between IRC rally organizer with the leaders of Eurosport Events, the company sponsoring the event.
This meeting, held at the Automobile Club of Monaco, was attended by Francisco Coelho from Sata Rally Azores and Pedro Araújo and Antonio Mendonca by the Madeira Rally.
Little news out of this meeting was the most likely exit from the Safari Rally calendar.
Francisco Coelho has not lost time and opportunity to carry out contacts with various teams and drivers, and can confirm the three major brands that are on IRC, Abarth, Peugeot and Skoda will be in the Azores Rally.
Pilot also very important, as Toni Gardemeister will be on the island of San Miguel as well as some Spanish pilots. It is also to brief the confirmation of a high-level pilot at the wheel of a car top, it will be among the main candidates to victory in an operation that involved as a sponsor cars brand.
Francisco Coelho, who also had the opportunity to witness the "Night of Turini" as navigator Jean-Pierre Nicolas, was also present at the closing event of the rally.

[Mirek]

It would be great if Toni Gardemeister does full season!

[noel157]

Luis, who is going to the "high level driver" in a top car? Is this part of the BFG programme or something different?

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Luis, who is going to the "high level driver" in a top car? Is this part of the BFG programme or something different?

It isn't part of BFG programme for sure, I suppose it's a driver thar organization will pay to be in Açores... as it's usual.

[Luis Pacheco]

in an operation that involved as a sponsor cars brand.


Like the new tells will be a sponsor car brand involved in the presence of the top driver. If the organization will pay or not is nothing new in the Azores as well in Madeira.

Who´s the driver?
I really don´t know. But I have my suspicions...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Like the new tells will be a sponsor car brand involved in the presence of the top driver. If the organization will pay or not is nothing new in the Azores as well in Madeira.

Who´s the driver?
I really don´t know. But I have my suspicions...

Yes, it's normal to pay... like Rally de Portugal did last year in IRC... :)

What is your suspicions?
Galli? As I know he is free to drive :s mokin:

[noel157]

Like the new tells will be a sponsor car brand involved in the presence of the top driver. If the organization will pay or not is nothing new in the Azores as well in Madeira.

Who´s the driver?
I really don´t know. But I have my suspicions...

Thanks Luis.

Please feel free to be suspicious.

[Luis Pacheco]

When I made the translation from portuguese to english I wrote that the sponsor for the top driver is a car brand but is not correct. Is a brand but not connect to a manufectur.

[Luis Pacheco]

]
What is your suspicions?
Galli? As I know he is free to drive :s mokin:


I have two or three in mind but none of them is Galli.

[Tom206wrc]

I hope Bruno Magalhaes will be there for sure :confused:

[Luis Pacheco]

Yes. Bruno will be there.

[PLuto]

Bruno is sure for Acores, Portugal, Madeira and almost sure for Asturias.

[karlzoro]

Bruno is sure for Acores, Portugal, Madeira and almost sure for Asturias.

news about José Pedro Fontes???

[[Madeira-Rally]]

news about José Pedro Fontes???

He will compete in Portuguese circuit championship, maybe PWTCC and maybe a some gravel rally this year...

[karlzoro]

What with Sousa??
Are there a lot of changes for 2009 for the stages???

[[Madeira-Rally]]

What with Sousa??
Are there a lot of changes for 2009 for the stages???

It look's like he will compete only in PWRC this year.

[FabiaFan]

When I made the translation from portuguese to english I wrote that the sponsor for the top driver is a car brand but is not correct. Is a brand but not connect to a manufectur.
Grönholm would be great! ;) No, no, just dreaming...
I still don't get it, this "brand not manufacturer" :/

[FabiaFan]

I have two or three in mind but none of them is Galli.


But really, a TOP DRIVER that would be able to step in a new car for him and fight immediately FOR THE WIN in a gravel rally??? And no Galli?!? So who can it be then?!? Definitely no veteran like Kankkunen, Mäkinen or Blomquist, maximally recently retired. Or better an actual top driver without a seat... So we have: Grönholm, Sainz, PGA, Atkinson, ... whom else?
And the car must be Peugeot or Fiat...
And the sponsor? Brand, but not manufacturer? What connections do we have...let me think...wow! TATA and FIAT!!!?

[Luis Pacheco]

A telecomunication company or a clothing company are also brands. The brands are not necessarily all car brands.

[karlzoro]

A telecomunication company or a clothing company are also brands. The brands are not necessarily all car brands.








Vodafone for ex :)
But they are alreadey sponsoring the WRc in Portugal I thought...so it would be verry optimistic to think that they would "take care for Acores" also if you would ask me...

[Luis Pacheco]

I mentioned telecommunications and clothings as an example only of brands.

In the Azores we have many milk and byproducts brands.

[FabiaFan]

A telecomunication company or a clothing company are also brands. The brands are not necessarily all car brands.






I wrote I don't get it... Why to write here "the sponsor is a brand"?!? I mean: do you know a sponsor without a "brandname"??? What would then be written on the rallycar? :s

[Luis Pacheco]

do you know a sponsor without a "brandname"??? What would then be written on the rallycar? :s

Many. Small shops and even hairdressers.

In small places we seek sponsorship where nobody imagines.

[GTA]

i send already a few e-mails to the rally organiser.. but no answers back... not so good because we could have something interesting for them..

[Sardalense]

2009 Regulations+Timetable :

http://www.fpak.pt/REG%20PROVAS%202009/SATA%20RALI%20ACORES/REG%20SATA%20RALLY%20ACORES%202009%20(UK).pdf

[karlzoro]

i send already a few e-mails to the rally organiser.. but no answers back... not so good because we could have something interesting for them..

it would be great to see RGR @ work in the Açores....

[Ouninpohja]

Gardemeister trying to find budget for the Açores.... :-)

but no Brasil for him :-(

http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blog/?p=3657

[alleskids]

Gardemeister is confirmed for Azores.
http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?p=stories&op=view&fokey=as.stories/66098

Gardemeister confirmed in the Açores The Finn Toni Gardemeister will not be, as foreseen, to the departure of rally International of Curitiba, second test of the Intercontinental Rally Challenge to have place between 5 and 7 of March next ones. The pilot finished not obtaining to in time join the supports necessary to make to dislocate the Abarth Punto S2000 of the Astra to the South America. However, the old pilot of the Suzuki in the WRC confirmed already its participation in the Sata Açores Rally that this year includes some alterations in the passage and goes for the road between days 7 and 9 of May. For moreover, Gardemeister keeps firm its intention to line up in the possible maximum of enclosed events in the series proposal for the Eurosport.

[karlzoro]

Sousa in Acores???
http://alojamentos19.com/~ralis/brevecirccuri409.html

[wwbroe]

Yes, it looks like Sousa want to try to do Acores and Principe Asturias in the IRC championship. The more the better. ;)

[wwbroe]

Does anybody have any idea about this year's stages, will they be the same as last year, or are there some changes or new stage's. Please let me know if you have any info. Thanks ;)

[HaCo]

Maybe start a thread for this years rally? :)

[Luis Pacheco]

Does anybody have any idea about this year's stages, will they be the same as last year, or are there some changes or new stage's. Please let me know if you have any info. Thanks ;)

The stages are the sames. Only the shakdown will change place.