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ST205GT4
8th April 2008, 05:22
Ambon, April 6: Ambon district court judges have sentenced separatist Johan Teterisa to life in jail after they found him guilty of treason last Thursday, reports The Jakarta Post.
At least 19 traditional dancers, who were also found guilty, were sentenced to between 10 and 20 years in jail.
The sentence is the maximum penalty Indonesia’s Criminal Code allows for treason.
Johan Teterisa had been deemed the organiser of the unfurling of the illegal flag of the South Moluccas Republic during a traditional dance to welcome President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono to the eastern province last year.
The flag represents a mostly protestant secessionist movement
The incident embarrassed President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono who was presiding National Family Day in the provincial capital in June last year.
The newspaper quotes Ambon court


spokesman Amin Syafrudin as the source of its report.
The Indonesian news agency Antara says John Teterisa cried when the sentence was announced.
The judges said the primary-school teacher from Aboru, central Moluccas, who had previously been found guilty of a similar offence had “embarrassed the people of Indonesia in the eyes of the world,” and had showed no remorse.
The Jakarta Post quoted former National Human Rights Commission secretary general Asmara Nababan as saying the judges had failed to consider that the actions of Johan Teterisa were non-violent.
“The judges should have deemed his action more as a political aspiration than a life-threatening act," Asmara said. "He only waved an RMS, or South Moluccas Republic flag, and did not carry a weapon.
“The life sentence is too much. The government should have been more open-minded in settling the case. We already have too many political prisoners.”
Former deputy attorney general Antonius Sujata said: “The treason charge and the life sentence were emotional, political and nonsense.
“The man only waved a flag and did not try to harm the President.”
The counter-revolutionary so-called South Moluccas Republic dates to the 1950s.
European influence in the South Moluccas Maluku erupted in Muslim-Christian violence in the 16th century and provided many soldiers for the Dutch colonial army.
The separatists were supported by anti-Soekarnoists in Europe, mostly the Netherlands, the United States and Australia.
The South Moluccas was wracked by violence between Muslims and Christians between 1999 and 2002.


Have a bit of trouble understanding the Indonesians.

1. Wave flag and embarrass President - Life Imprison.
2. Murder 200+ people with a bomb - 2 years and then you're out spreading your philosophy of violence in complete freedom?

OK.....

Camelopard
8th April 2008, 05:34
Have a bit of trouble understanding the Indonesians.

1. Wave flag and embarrass President - Life Imprison.
2. Murder 200+ people with a bomb - 2 years and then you're out spreading your philosophy of violence in complete freedom?

OK.....

Geez, Indonesia, where do you start?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/02/28/2175831.htm

Tommy was then convicted of ordering the murder of the judge who convicted him but served less than one third of his original 15-year sentence.

Not to mention west Papua. http://www.freewestpapua.org/

Or terrorist Eurico Guterres:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/04/08/2210554.htm?section=justin

http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-04-05-voa12.cfm

Freeport Mine murders originally blamed on Free West Papua separatists:

http://www.minesandcommunities.org/Action/press110.htm

A preliminary police-investigation document obtained by TIME posits that members of the Indonesian military-who were supposed to protect miners, international teachers and other expats connected to the Grasberg mine-may have been behind the killings, not the separatist Free Papua Movement..................... The report concludes that it is "very possible" there was military involvement in the attack.

Indonesian soldiers have been accused of murder before. Last week, during a tribunal on the 2001 killing of Papua independence leader Theys Eluay, an army officer admitted that Eluay had been strangled to death by a private. The officer testified that the private had been ordered to pressure Eluay to stop agitating for independence.

and so on.....

Daniel
8th April 2008, 05:56
Load of BS....

They seem to have very different ideas about things in Indonesia than we do in Australia.....

leopard
8th April 2008, 06:59
We had our official national flag, so no need to wave another one.

The bomb doer(s) are now waiting for death penalty, although I prefer neither of them, Daniel said 20 years of jail is still preferable.

at the end, you might too much read Australian news paper, although under the new PM they should write about us more proportionally.

Daniel
8th April 2008, 07:04
We had our official national flag, so no need to wave another one.

The bomb doer(s) are now waiting for death penalty, although I prefer neither of them, Daniel said 20 years of jail is still preferable.

at the end, you might too much read Australian news paper, although under the new PM they should write about us more proportionally.

You've pretty much proven my point. For some reason in Indonesia killing someone for something which in the Western world wouldn't even attract an arrest is considered normal.

Camelopard
8th April 2008, 07:44
at the end, you might too much read Australian news paper,

OK a few from non Australian sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Suharto

"He was convicted and sentenced in 2002 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002) to fifteen years jail for paying a hitman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitman) to kill Syafiuddin Kartasasmita, a Supreme Court judge who had convicted him of graft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graft). Other charges include illegal weapons possession and running from the law.
He obtained a fifteen year sentence. Tommy served part of his jail sentence in Cipinang Penitentiary Institution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cipinang_Penitentiary_Institution) (LP Cipinang), Jatinegara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jatinegara), East Jakarta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Jakarta). His sentence was reduced to ten years on appeal and he was given conditional release on October 30 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_30), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006).
He spent four years in detainment. Critics say that he was released solely because of his position of wealth and power"

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/southeast/03/19/tommy.profile/index.html

http://www.indonesiamatters.com/787/tommy-suharto/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/925992.stm

Want me to continue?

ST205GT4
8th April 2008, 08:18
I didn't realise the Jakarta Post was an Australian Paper.....

The bombers are waiting death sentences. What about Abu Bakar Bashir? He is free while someone who waves a flag is sentenced to life imprisonment? Sorry doesn't add up to me. Very screwy way to view right and wrong in Indonesian courts.

leopard
8th April 2008, 08:32
Oh sorry, I only read conclusion under the quote, and poster's flag ...

I didn't know that Ba'asyir, a 70 years old grandpa jeopardizes us that he was the bomb architect. I know him a teacher, teacher Abu ;)

leopard
8th April 2008, 09:36
Want me to continue?
No thanks, maybe next time :D

ShiftingGears
8th April 2008, 12:54
We had our official national flag, so no need to wave another one.

The bomb doer(s) are now waiting for death penalty, although I prefer neither of them, Daniel said 20 years of jail is still preferable.

at the end, you might too much read Australian news paper, although under the new PM they should write about us more proportionally.

So you think people that maim and kill hundreds of people without remorse or regret DESERVE to be let out of prison?

Azumanga Davo
8th April 2008, 16:58
OK a few from non Australian sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Suharto

"He was convicted and sentenced in 2002 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002) to fifteen years jail for paying a hitman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitman) to kill Syafiuddin Kartasasmita, a Supreme Court judge who had convicted him of graft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graft). Other charges include illegal weapons possession and running from the law.
He obtained a fifteen year sentence. Tommy served part of his jail sentence in Cipinang Penitentiary Institution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cipinang_Penitentiary_Institution) (LP Cipinang), Jatinegara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jatinegara), East Jakarta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Jakarta). His sentence was reduced to ten years on appeal and he was given conditional release on October 30 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_30), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006).
He spent four years in detainment. Critics say that he was released solely because of his position of wealth and power"

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/southeast/03/19/tommy.profile/index.html

http://www.indonesiamatters.com/787/tommy-suharto/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/925992.stm

Want me to continue?

He deserved that. Tommy stuffed Lamborghini up... :D

leopard
9th April 2008, 04:54
He deserved that. Tommy stuffed Lamborghini up... :D

He might have his own personal problem, but I hope he will give significant contribution to make Sentul shining back, besides of the idea to build another circuit in Bali.