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[Brother John]

When do they start drivin today! :confused:

[White Sauron]

When do they start drivin today! :confused:

in 15 minutes

[Brother John]

in 15 minutes

Thanks, my work day is almost over!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Time for reference in SS 2 "Tavira" is 16:39:0 from Armindo Araújo witha Gr N Car.
In S1600 the best time is from Urmo Aava 17:30.9

[White Sauron]

I wonder if the splits will work from the word "go"...

[malscar]

Good evening gents, (or Good Morning in Europe). Lets hope to see a competitive showing form the Subies to spice things up.

[Halvard]

gronholm on the road. Hellu by the way

[Mauri A]

Where is Loeb?
They found him!

[Koppomsbo]

]Time for reference in SS 2 "Tavira" is 16:39:0 from Armindo Araújo witha Gr N Car.
In S1600 the best time is from Urmo Aava 17:30.9

What reference? From last years rally or??

[Halvard]

Loeb is there, but no splits on Gronholm

[Halvis]

Mornin' to you all. Looking forward to a hopefully great rally, with 5 norwegians! Hoping for Petter and Subaru to show that they have gotten the car even more on pace!

Just realised that I for the first time have forgoten to post my pickems, maybe it's a good omen?

[White Sauron]

gronholm is way faster... Like the beginning))

[Halvard]

Split 1:

3 M GRÖNHOLM 3:34.0
1 S LOEB +0:04.3
4 M HIRVONEN +0:02.7

[Halvis]

Bosse very fast compared to Mikko and Seb!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

What reference? From last years rally or??

I'm not sure if it's from last year... because last year it was raining.. it's a reference from that stage.

[Halvard]

3 M Grönholm 3:34.0
1 S Loeb +0:04.3
4 M Hirvonen +0:02.7

[Helstar]

Bosse has another gear it seems ! Even though he is first on the road ... (btw why ? Only because he won yesterday SSS ? Should have been Loeb ...)

[White Sauron]

Loeb is slower than both Hirvonen and Sordo. With Mikko it's all clear, but why Dani?))

[DonJippo]

(btw why ? Only because he won yesterday SSS ? Should have been Loeb ...)

Bosse leads the WDC, that's why.

[Nikey]

Bosse has another gear it seems ! Even though he is first on the road ... (btw why ? Only because he won yesterday SSS ? Should have been Loeb ...)

He leads the championship...

E. Damn I'm slow

[Mauri A]

Bosse has another gear it seems ! Even though he is first on the road ... (btw why ? Only because he won yesterday SSS ? Should have been Loeb ...)
He´s leading the championship.

[A.F.F.]

Good morning folks :wave:

Who leads the championship again :)

[Halvard]

Not to good by Henning. Atkinson is also a bit behind

[Halvis]

Not to good by Henning. Atkinson is also a bit behind

I would say bad from Henning. Petter also a little too slow, I think.

Seb faster than Bosse from split 1...

[Halvis]

Mikko fastest - don't think Bosse is very happy with that.

[Nikey]

Mikko fastest! Well done!

[malscar]

Maybe the Subies are on a harder compound.

[White Sauron]

Mikko won th stage... Marcus hit smth at the end. Hope, not serious.

[A.F.F.]

Very good Mikko :up: :D

[Nikey]

Petter isn't too far on the 2nd split

[A.F.F.]

I think Marcus made a small mistake or something in the last split.

[Halvard]

I didn`t expekt Henning to fight with the fastest, but something must have happened

[jonkka]

Henning in trouble - again

[Mauri A]

Both Fords had hit something, no good.

[A.F.F.]

Henning + a winning car = ???

[White Sauron]

Strange, but even with Latvala being a talented and fast driver, it seems Stobarts Fords 06 and Ford's Fords 06 are on different level...

[Gard]

Henning + a winning car = ???

Slow start??

[Mauri A]

Henning + a winning car = ???
Henning´s comment: Nothing happened, I just drive slowly!!!!

[Halvis]

Henning very, very slow. He wrote on his webblogg yesterday that it was something wrong with the steering on his Focus, it drew to the right all the time - but surely they must have solved it on this mornings service?

[A.F.F.]

Latvala has gone off but back on stage :mark:

[Halvis]

Atko also very slow. Latvala seems to have picked up the pace.

[Finni]

Marcus was amazingly fast in opening part of the stage.. he pushed bit too hard.. hopefully there is no major damage.

[JAM]

Strange, but even with Latvala being a talented and fast driver, it seems Stobarts Fords 06 and Ford's Fords 06 are on different level...

That is something about i wrote some weeks ago... but nobody believed in me. The private cars never are so good as the works car. is an ilusion to think they are. And th drivers also make the difference.

Mikko started the rally as he did in Norway... should this mean something? Atlinson is very far from the top and Citroen are not so fast as expected. it seems that the presence of Sordo in this rally in 2005 and 2006 is making effects on his times.

[Halvard]

any comments from Atkinson??
LAtvala also in trouble. Too bad. Even if he also drives a winning car A.F.F

[Mauri A]

Atko also very slow. Latvala seems to have picked up the pace.
Indeed!

[Halvard]

ok time by Petter

[Mauri A]

Two stages and two offs for Latvala. Nice beginning.

[Nikey]

ok time by Petter

Best not Finnish :D

[A.F.F.]

any comments from Atkinson??
LAtvala also in trouble. Too bad. Even if he also drives a winning car A.F.F


;) Yes.

[vilamoura2007]

World Rally Championship 2007 Portugal
1st day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu1jTZKo3D8

[Helstar]

Looks like we will have 4 people with almost same time at the end xD

[A.F.F.]

Toni also didn't have the best of times :mark:

[Halvard]

I prefere a finnish championship before a french one

[A.F.F.]

I even prefer a Norwegian championship before a french one :)

[Mauri A]

Galli´s football shirt obiviously does not help him.

[Finni]

That is something about i wrote some weeks ago... but nobody believed in me. The private cars never are so good as the works car. is an ilusion to think they are. And th drivers also make the difference.

Mikko started the rally as he did in Norway... should this mean something? Atlinson is very far from the top and Citroen are not so fast as expected. it seems that the presence of Sordo in this rally in 2005 and 2006 is making effects on his times.

Yes, Henning and Jari-Matti got wrong cars after winter rallies. The fact that Henning was able to keep up with Hirvonen in Sweden proves that there cannot be substantial differencies between those cars. I also remember that Latvala set few top-times in Norway.

[Halvard]

This really warms my heart A.F.F. To see the human side. :)

[Helstar]

Toni also didn't have the best of times :mark:
Don't forget he drives the crappy Mitsu ?! To me he's just fantastic anyway ! Better than Stobart's for sure.

[Finni]

I have a feeling that there is no big effect from road positions. It's hard to see anyone gaining a lot watching time sheet.

[Helstar]

Galli´s football shirt obiviously does not help him.
Yeah xD but look ... first time on a Xsara on gravel, Pirelli tyres ... stall on the last split, not so bad (few seconds behind Carlsson and Stohl).

[Halvard]

Østberg is gonna beat Henning...maybe. A bit fun

[Finni]

By the way, Timo Rautiainen gave very interesting to my answer in MGR's home page. According to Timo they did same times with old -05 Focus in the testings than they did with the new model. Timo said that the speed differencies between those cars is difficult to say exactly but it's certainly somewhere between 0.0-0.5 seconds per/km.

[jonkka]

World Rally Championship 2007 Portugal
1st day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu1jTZKo3D8

Araujo's off is there, really strange thing... at 1m10s

[A.F.F.]

This really warms my heart A.F.F. To see the human side. :)

Consider it as joining forces against mutual enemy :)

[vilamoura2007]

I have about 1 hour video of the Special in the Stadium on the 29th.
If someone interested I may publish on Youtube.

[COD]

Yeah xD but look ... first time on a Xsara on gravel, Pirelli tyres ... stall on the last split, not so bad (few seconds behind Carlsson and Stohl).

Last year when Tuohino drove that same car, it was just the driver. Now it is the car and tyres and.... And they do about similar positions. It all changes so quickly

[jonkka]

By the way, Timo Rautiainen gave very interesting to my answer in MGR's home page. According to Timo they did same times with old -05 Focus in the testings than they did with the new model. Timo said that the speed differencies between those cars is difficult to say exactly but it's certainly somewhere between 0.0-0.5 seconds per/km.

And?

[Helstar]

I have a feeling that there is no big effect from road positions. It's hard to see anyone gaining a lot watching time sheet.
It's the opposite. Lots of rocks in the road leaved by the other cars... somebody said "I stopped to try to avoid them ! Too many !"

[Roy]

Yes, Henning and Jari-Matti got wrong cars after winter rallies. The fact that Henning was able to keep up with Hirvonen in Sweden proves that there cannot be substantial differencies between those cars. I also remember that Latvala set few top-times in Norway.
All the Focus cars are the same of norway rally.

Disapointed stage for Stobart and Citoen privateers.
Great time for Ostberg!

[Helstar]

Last year when Tuohino drove that same car, it was just the driver. Now it is the car and tyres and.... And they do about similar positions. It all changes so quickly
And ... ? After two SS (one and a quarter actually) you are already saying that Galli is same of Tuohino (and also Carlsson and Stohl then ...). Let's see some more pleaz ! http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/rolleyes.gif

[COD]

And ... ? After two SS (one and a quarter actually) you are already saying that Galli is same of Tuohino (and also Carlsson and Stohl then ...). Let's see some more pleaz ! http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/rolleyes.gif


What we will probably see is Galli try harder and an off

[Helstar]

Which car Wilks drives ? Very good ...

[Helstar]

What we will probably see is Galli try harder and an off
Ok let me know your address so I can make you a visit in case it happens, you damn owl :D :p

I have about 1 hour video of the Special in the Stadium on the 29th.
If someone interested I may publish on Youtube.
Gimme the HQ video and I'll post it to rapidshare or somewhere else ! :D

[Finni]

And?

It's so often said that -05 Focus was unusable car for proper fight. In that light it's interesting that in the testings they were able to set same times with that slow-supposed-car and with the new so fast-supposed-model. Yes, you can possibly see some Garde -debates behind that opinion.

[JAM]

Guy Wilks made a very good time

[Finni]

Many drivers are complaining about big stones on the road. That maybe explains why there is no usual advantage of road position.

[DonJippo]

It's so often said that -05 Focus was unusable car for proper fight. In that light it's interesting that in the testings they were able to set same times with that slow-supposed-car and with the new so fast-supposed-model. Yes, you can possibly see some Garde -debates behind that opinion.

He said that on snow and tarmac they set equally fast times meaning on gravel new one is about .5 sec per km faster. On full length of an event it's about 3 mins faster.

[jonkka]

It's so often said that -05 Focus was unusable car for proper fight. In that light it's interesting that in the testings they were able to set same times with that slow-supposed-car and with the new so fast-supposed-model. Yes, you can possibly see some Garde -debates behind that opinion.

You claim that Gardemeister had a car capable of wins for 2005 season?

[A.F.F.]

Pinomäki didn't have the greatest of starts :mark:

[Helstar]

Which car Wilks drives ? Very good ...
I reply to myself ... Ford 2004. Same of Mikkelsen. Ohhh....

[A.F.F.]

Serra De Tavira has started :)

[Finni]

You claim that Gardemeister had a car capable of wins for 2005 season?

I think that Grönholm would have fought wins in few rallies at least in that same car. That's obvious for instance considering of Finland. If you watch the gap between Hirvonen and Grönholm in 2006 and relate it Hirvonen's speed in 2005 you can see that Grönholm would have been very fast even that old car.

[Finni]

Good to see that Marcus is driving with normal pace - obviously no major damages.

[DonJippo]

I think that Grönholm would have fought wins in few rallies at least in that same car. That's obvious for instance considering of Finland. If you watch the gap between Hirvonen and Grönholm in 2006 and relate it Hirvonen's speed in 2005 you can see that Grönholm would have been very fast even that old car.

Talking about apples to apples... :rolleyes:

[jonkka]

I think that Grönholm would have fought wins in few rallies at least in that same car. That's obvious for instance considering of Finland. If you watch the gap between Hirvonen and Grönholm in 2006 and relate it Hirvonen's speed in 2005 you can see that Grönholm would have been very fast even that old car.

It is likely that Gronholm would have fared better. At times Toni seemed to slip back to Skoda-mode, ie he just cruised to the end instead of really putting up a fight. But wins? Against Loeb? In 2005 spec Focus? Nah...

[Finni]

He said that on snow and tarmac they set equally fast times meaning on gravel new one is about .5 sec per km faster. On full length of an event it's about 3 mins faster.

How is that found from Timo's comment? I asked overall difference and I think that Timo's wide guess is considering about it.

[Finni]

Is Marcus out?

[Finni]

yes, it was gps-problem!!!

[A.F.F.]

Marcus is not out.

[A.F.F.]

Ok... Rally Radio giving quality broadcasting again :dozey:

[Mauri A]

yes, it was gps-problem!!!

Is it really impossible to get the GPS system reliable. How many heart attacks will be needed?

[Mauri A]

Petter in blue!

[Finni]

It is likely that Gronholm would have fared better. At times Toni seemed to slip back to Skoda-mode, ie he just cruised to the end instead of really putting up a fight. But wins? Against Loeb? In 2005 spec Focus? Nah...

In Finland it could have been very tight.. Focus was also Michelins.

[A.F.F.]

Let's see if he can match for Marcus' time.

[White Sauron]

Petter in blue!

for how long...

[DonJippo]

How is that found from Timo's comment? I asked overall difference and I think that Timo's wide guess is considering about it.

Because he says in his answer the following
I would say that it is something between 0 and 0,5 secs/km. In both tarmac and snow tests we could do as fast times with both cars. And comparison between the different years for example in Finland is useless.

[JCarlosPP]

63 BMAGALHÃES (http://cnralis.steelwood.pt/index.aspx?idp=10&pe=2&accao=2&auto=0#) 78,02 N/4 1/1 http://cnralis.steelwood.pt/img/new.gif 15:19.2 +17.5 +1:11.7 Peugeot 207 S2000

61 PFLODIN (http://cnralis.steelwood.pt/index.aspx?idp=10&pe=2&accao=2&auto=0#) 74,58 N/4 2/2 http://cnralis.steelwood.pt/img/new.gif 16:01.5 +5.7 +1:54.0 21 Subaru Impreza

[White Sauron]

Hm... Mikko is slow... A bit of surprise there... Maybe taking care of tyres?...

[Finni]

Because he says in his answer the following

Yes, but it doesn't warrant to suppose that the difference on gravel was 0.5 sec per/km. Maybe we should ask more about.

Toni also wasn't 0.5 sec per/km faster on snow and tarmac than gravel.

[jonkka]

Citroen has problems as Sordo is falling and Loeb can't keep up while two Fords do well.

[A.F.F.]

Petter still setting the fastest time. :eek: Does it hold to the end of the stage ??

[Tom206wrc]

The S2000 take the lead in GrN after SS2, Magalhaes ahead of Fontès !! :bounce:

[A.F.F.]

Henning and Atkinson continue on suffering problems.

[Mauri A]

Yes, but it doesn't warrant to suppose that the difference on gravel was 0.5 sec per/km. Maybe we should ask more about.

Toni also wasn't 0.5 sec per/km faster on snow and tarmac than gravel.
O.K. boys. Come to this day or I start comparing times and tyres of the 70´s.

[A.F.F.]

The S2000 take the lead in GrN after SS2, Magalhaes ahead of Fontès !! :bounce:

If only Anton Alen would have been there with Punto :mad:

[Halvis]

Petter lost quite some time towards the end, hope it's nothing mechanical.

[White Sauron]

Citroen has problems as Sordo is falling and Loeb can't keep up while two Fords do well.

Even being Ford' finns' fan, don';t think Citroen is having that much problems. Loeb is close to Hirvonen, while Sordo is still ahead of others, except of Solberg.

[A.F.F.]

Dammit Latvala. Now he had a very good time. If only he learnt soon enough to become more consistent. The speed obviously is there already.

[Mauri A]

Dammit Latvala. Now he had a very good time. If only he learnt soon enough to become more consistent. The speed obviously is there already.

Do you remember Ari´s and Markku´s first years?

[Addicted]

Nice to get Petter back on top fighting for stage wins and maybe later this week even for win

[Finni]

After ss2 Loeb was not happy with his setting. My guess is that he will up his speed after service. Altough Citroen is not possibly as strong here as in Mexico. Hirvonen said that in Mexico they lost more in engine power than normally. I am very glad if it turns out that Ford is par with Citroen.

[Tomi]

seems like that ford is not so much behind car vise to citroen anymore.

[satukata]

help, i need link to estonian split page

[Finni]

Nice to get Petter back on top fighting for stage wins and maybe later this week even for win

Petter did good stage times occasionally also in last year - especially with good road position. It remains to see if he is now consistently fast with the new car.

[Finni]

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=5&stage=3&results=1

[A.F.F.]

Do you remember Ari´s and Markku´s first years?

Yes I do but times has changed to that drivers can't afford to learn like Ari and Markku did. But you knew that.

Pass me that Sisu-viina, will you :)

[satukata]

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=5&stage=3&results=1

thank you... Kiitos

[Tomi]

Do you remember Ari´s and Markku´s first years?

We once lifted Ari from a ditch long time ago, a few years back I asked if he remembered the case, Ari said he is not sure, because he has been in almost every ditch in Finland. :)

[Mauri A]

Yes I do but times has changed to that drivers can't afford to learn like Ari and Markku did. But you knew that.

Pass me that Sisu-viina, will you :)
Sorry, I need it myself!

[Addicted]

What kind of penalty will Galli get with that stunt he did on SSS? Raies got excluded driving with one glove and now Gigi standing on roof of moving car and he doesn`t get any penalty? Organizers suck, I say!

[A.F.F.]

What is interesting though, can Latvala push it back to fight with quattro; Carlsson, Galli, Garde and Stohl as they seem to be in one group. I say he can and hopefully Young Latvala passes them too.

[jonkka]

I watched the 2001 Portugal coverage last night and boy, was Petter young at that time. And Tommi still in his prime. Oh those days...

[Mauri A]

What kind of penalty will Galli get with that stunt he did on SSS? Raies got excluded driving with one glove and now Gigi standing on roof of moving car and he doesn`t get any penalty? Organizers suck, I say!
The stage was finished when he did that.

[A.F.F.]

Wilson jr. pushing hard.














































Honestly. He is.

[A.F.F.]

Stage 4 live.

[Tom206wrc]

Where's Bernardo Sousa in GrN after SS2 ??? :confused:

[Helstar]

What kind of penalty will Galli get with that stunt he did on SSS? Raies got excluded driving with one glove and now Gigi standing on roof of moving car and he doesn`t get any penalty?
Organizers suck, I say!
You suck, I say.

[A.F.F.]

Loeb dangerously faster than Marcus on split 1 :eek:

[HaCo]

Loeb dangerously faster than Marcus on split 1 :eek:

Wow, he is indeed!!

[Viking]

What is interesting though, can Latvala push it back to fight with quattro; Carlsson, Galli, Garde and Stohl as they seem to be in one group. I say he can and hopefully Young Latvala passes them too.


If he keep up this pace he will catch them easy.....Ore he will go offroad once more!

[Finni]

It seems to be rule that Marcus' lacks second split. This time I believe that it's gps..

[A.F.F.]

Loeb still pushing. The length of this stage comes to rescue Marcus as it ends soon. Are Marcus' tyres finished ???

[Tomi]

whats wrong with stohl and carlsson, waiting for sordo?

[COD]

Bosse has a broken shockabsorber. Good that it's service now !

[Helstar]

Yes luckily it can be repaired before next stage. Phew.

[Finni]

Marcus said that their shock absrober is no completely broken..

[COD]

Yes luckily it can be repaired before next stage. Phew.


i beat you to it :laugh:

[N.O.T]

Loeb Flew on that one !!!!! Totally annihilated Gronholms time....10 seconds faster.

[Mauri A]

Bosse has a broken shock absorber.

[HaCo]

Loeb beat marcus by 10 secs!!!!

[Fly]

Problems for Wilks?

[Helstar]

i beat you to it :laugh:
Yep no need to repeat same thing :p so I edited eheh

[A.F.F.]

Loeb Flew on that one !!!!! Totally annihilated Gronholms time....10 seconds faster.


I know. It's ridicilous for Marcus even to try, isn't it?

[Finni]

Unfortunately Marcus lost his good lead for suspension failure, but the outcome is still very positive because I expected that Loeb is ahead in that point as he has better road-position.

[Helstar]

Loeb Flew on that one !!!!! Totally annihilated Gronholms time....10 seconds faster.
Zoooh Top Time ! ZOMG Loeb rocks because he beats the crap out of Bosse everytime and everywhere and he is ZOMGLORIFICLY FAST !

Dude. You are such an annoying person. You always say stupid things and you just piss everybody off, because people like you piss people off.
As good old Maddox would say, you need to be culled. Look that word up in the dictionary if you have one.

[jonkka]

Any news on Wilks or Kopecky?

[Finni]

Loeb: "I was pushing really hard, perhaps too big risk sometimes, really on the limit. Now it is much better, we continue to fight now"

Hirvonen self-confident: ""Its a good fight but a long way to go. I will catch him! (Loeb)"

[Mauri A]

Mikko has become a fighter! His comment after last stage was "I will catch him! (Loeb)!!

[A.F.F.]

Just look at J-M Latvala :bounce:

[White Sauron]

Mikko has become a fighter! His comment after last stage was "I will catch him! (Loeb)!!

I think it's a very good sign. Each time he promised such a thing (in Norway to win and in Mexico to take 3rd back) he kept his promise...

[DonJippo]

Top 4 within 8.8 secs, nice :D

[A.F.F.]

Gardemeister apparently has had a small moment between split 1 and 2.

[Addicted]

Top4 in 9 seconds! Second loop will give us great battle. Who will be first to drop down? Hirvonen with of or will Subaru broke again?

[jonkka]

Just look at J-M Latvala :bounce:

Can't, too fast for eye to see... :eek:

[Addicted]

J-M will catch Sordo

[DonJippo]

Makes my day every time....hearing Manfred on the radio :bounce:

[jonkka]

Makes my day every time....hearing Manfred on the radio :bounce:

You're easily amused.

[Woodeye]

Latvala is driving really well at the moment! :up:

[Addicted]

Anyone know where is Sandell?

[Finni]

It's looking good from finnish perpective. My guess is that Petter will drop from top-boys. Wait and see. Interesting to see if Mikko is worth of his words, can he keep up Loeb and Marcus?

[leno]

can some1 give the link for split times please?

[COD]

Wilks went off, Garde has hit something and Galli has also had an off. Helstar, what did I say???

[DonJippo]

You're easily amused.

Weeell you arrrrre rrright on that :D

[Helstar]

Well seems we have a preview of what will happen next year with Pirelli tyres ... how nice ...

[Tom206wrc]

Best time of grN in SS3 again by Magalhaes !! :bounce:

[Helstar]

Wilks went off, Garde has hit something and Galli has also had an off. Helstar, what did I say???
Not an off, a "simple" puncture ... but the mousse didn't work.

[jonkka]

Well seems we have a preview of what will happen next year with Pirelli tyres ... how nice ...

And that would be, errr, exactly what?

[turves]

Not an off, a "simple" puncture ... but the mousse didn't work.

Who? Galli or Wilks?

[Addicted]

Armindo has been really of the pace. Hope he wakes up for the evening.

[Addicted]

What happened to Ostberg on last split?

Found hes way to finish, 6mins lost.

[Helstar]

Who? Galli or Wilks?
Wilks on Pirelli too ? I don't know =)

Anyway, Galli. He had a rear tyre totally gone 'til the rim.

[René]

Not an off, a "simple" puncture ... but the mousse didn't work.

Tony in stage 3 hit a bridge and damaging a rear wheel which is bent and out of line !

[A.F.F.]

Who rolled badly ? Wilson? Or Ostberg?

[Helstar]

Tony in stage 3 hit a bridge and damaging a rear wheel which is bent and out of line !
I see. But why to quote me :p I was talking about Gigi !

[A.F.F.]

Who rolled badly ? Wilson? Or Ostberg?

Ostberg did.

[Miika]

Ostberg rolled.

[pino]

Hello Guys :D sorry I just got here, what happened to Latvala ? why he's 1 min behind ? I didn't expect this !

[Addicted]

Hello Guys :D sorry I just got here, what happened to Latvala ? why he's 1 min behind ? I didn't expect this !

Small off on SS2

[René]

I see. But why to quote me :p I was talking about Gigi !

Sorry ! I haven't read all your sentence ;)

[Mauri A]

Small off on SS2
And on SS 1 too.

[Finni]

Once again wrc.com showing its level. They didn't even mention that Marcus' unusually slow time had base in technical failure.

[pino]

Thanks Guys, not that I am happy to hear that anyway ;)

[Addicted]

I´m surprised that stages are that slow, less than 90 km/h average on every stage! Based on what they said before rally, that there are fast and wide roads in use. I expected 95 - 100 km/h.

[JAM]

Latvala expalined that the screen of the gearshift didn't work and he ddin't know in wich gear was going and then had a small off. But after this off he put a very good pace.

Gardemeister arrived to the service park without one rear wheel...

[Fly]

Any idea why Pinomäki doesn't set faster times?
Learning? I know he's got the speed to fight for top 6.

[Mauri A]

Latvala expalined that the screen of the gearshift didn't work and he ddin't know in wich gear was going and then had a small off. But after this off he put a very good pace.

Gardemeister arrived to the service park without one rear wheel...
I´m waiting for Pentti´s comments about H-style pattern of gearshifting!

[Corny]

what's the weather in algarve like?

[Viking]

Great start of the rally from Brynildsen in the leading groupN car fighting off Flodin with a few seconds :up:
But Bruno Magalhaes S2000 Pug is surprisingly fast here.

[JAM]

what's the weather in algarve like?

A sunny day.

[pentti]

I´m waiting for Pentti´s comments about H-style pattern of gear shifting!Terve Mauri. Yes I talked with J-M a month ago about this. He told that he is so used this paddle shift and no need to calculate in down sift or watching read out. So I am bit surprised but in my case the most of my offs were then I lost concentration because some problems with car. A couple of years ago I went to world's biggest road rally I saw over hundred cars in this very difficult and tight hairpin junction. Guess what. None of them stalled an engine and all of them had H-pattern box. They had to come come from 4th gear to first very quickly. So they skipped gears going from 4th straight to 1st. You can't do it in these secuantial boxes. I know that these wrc cars have much lighter flywheel but still. Does any of you remember Colin doing these 360 turns in the middle of stages. He went from high gear to reverse and back to 1st gear. He even practise it on tests. Try to do it in these silly modern boxes.

[White Sauron]

Gronholm 3 seconds faster than in the morning. Not that faster compared to other rallies, where 2nd pass is sometimes more seconds faster...

[Mauri A]

Terve Mauri. Yes I talked with J-M a month ago about this. He told that he is so used this paddle shift and no need to calculate in down sift or watching read out. So I am bit surprised but in my case the most of my offs were then I lost concentration because some problems with car. A couple of years ago I went to world's biggest road rally I saw over hundred cars in this very difficult and tight hairpin junction. Guess what. None of them stalled an engine and all of them had H-pattern box. They had to come come from 4th gear to first very quickly. So they skipped gears going from 4th straight to 1st. You can't do it in these secuantial boxes. I know that these wrc cars have much lighter flywheel but still. Does any of you remember Colin doing these 360 turns in the middle of stages. He went from high gear to reverse and back to 1st gear. He even practise it on tests. Try to do it in these silly modern boxes.
World´s biggest road rally. What´s that?

[White Sauron]

Ho ho! Loeb is slower than Gronholm in the morning... Interesting...

[Finni]

Quite a first split from Marcus. It seems again that no second split for him in the time.

[HaCo]

Quite a first split from Marcus. It seems again that no second split for him in the time.

Hope he will beat Loeb to the bottom!!! :D :D :D

[Tom206wrc]

Why are the splits stopped(after Bosse and Loeb first ones) ?? :confused:

[JCarlosPP]

13:52.13 MGronholm

[jonkka]

They are keeping us on the edge of our seats!

[Mauri A]

They are keeping us on the edge of our seats!
Lean back!

[Finni]

Nice to see Petter coming well!

[jonas_mcrae]

good fight taking place

[pentti]

World´s biggest road rally. What´s that?Road rallies are very popular in Uk. It's cheap. No helmets allowed. It's like normal special stage rally except roads are not closed!!! So they start in the middle of night to avoid people driving back from pubs! Almost all roads are on public tarmac roads. Entry fee £20,- and spectators(often a lot of them) can go free. Navication is difficult.Not as difficult or tricky as in navicational rallys in Finland but they go way faster. This is the main reason for so many good british co-drivers in the world.

[jonkka]

Is that legal?

[jonas_mcrae]

henning quite slow but 20secs faster than first run..

[pentti]

Is that legal?Yes. They have to get all ok by police and MSA. Normally they get it.If there is road rally less than 13 cars then no need any permissions!

[jonkka]

Yes. They have to get all ok by police and MSA. Normally they get it.

How do they avoid speeding?

[A.F.F.]

Petter pushing :up: Nice to hear some healthy motivation in his speech again :)

[Tomi]

How do they avoid speeding?

It comes by nature, look at Wilson

[jonkka]

It comes by nature, look at Wilson

That was really good! :)

[Mauri A]

Petter is better!

[A.F.F.]

And Latvala got pass Atkinson. Who's next in target ?

[jonkka]

Besides, Wilson will be on finnish TV in weekend. For almost 2 hours - too!

[Finni]

That's the best rally I have seen for some time. There is four driver between ten seconds on the top.

[jonkka]

That's the best rally I have seen for some time. There is four driver between ten seconds on the top.

And where the top guys were Marcus and Seb, Petter is back there but also Mikko has grown up remarkably!

[Mauri A]

Besides, Wilson will be on finnish TV in weekend. For almost 2 hours - too!
Which Wilson and when?

[A.F.F.]

Besides, Wilson will be on finnish TV in weekend. For almost 2 hours - too!


What's the occasion? Incar footage from one stage ? ;)

[JAM]

It comes by nature, look at Wilson

:D

The rally is having an interesting battle, but IMO Gornholm is a step up than the others. Sord is being down than expectad. He knows very well the rally.

[jonkka]

Which Wilson and when?

http://www.yle.fi/etusivu/ohjelmaopas/ohjelma.php?co=mtv&date=20070331&time=2210&l=f&mode=www

[A.F.F.]

Latvala is on tail of Stohl now :bounce:

[Helstar]

Rally Radio: frustration in Gigi's words ...

[COD]

Rally Radio: frustration in Gigi's words ...


Too bad the car is so excellent... :D

[Tomi]

Too bad the car is so excellent... :D
maybe he should stand on the car and let co-driver drive.

[A.F.F.]

Pinomäki is really off the pace :(

[JAM]

Rally Radio: frustration in Gigi's words ...

Some BFGoodrich tyres should solve his problems :D

[A.F.F.]

Maybe it's because the accident on shakedown but Araujo hasn't really impressed me so far :mark:

[Mauri A]

I think the next two stages will be decisive, Mikko has to keep his words.

[JAM]

Maybe it's because the accident on shakedown but Araujo hasn't really impressed me so far :mark:

I have the same opinion and he is saying that is starting to recover the confidence. Let's see if the clock shows it.

[pentti]

How do they avoid speeding?Speed limit is 60 miles/hour+ they allow another 6m/h by police.To break speed limit in those narrow and twisty roads is impossible and there have been very few accidents + it's popular past time in those rural areas to spectate. Nothing else happens there! There are still some places in this pc world where they have a common sense and you allowed to have fun.

[Corny]

Be careful with saying this is an interesting rally, I thought the same about Sweden.. But at least this is (so far) better than every rally we had in 2006!

[Mauri A]

Speed limit is 60 miles/hour+ they allow another 6m/h by police.To break speed limit in those narrow and twisty roads is impossible and there have been very few accidents + it's popular past time in those rural areas to spectate. Nothing else happens there! There are still some places in this pc world where they have a common sense and you allowed to have fun.
That´s the reason you living there?

[jonkka]

There are still some places in this pc world where they have a common sense and you allowed to have fun.

Whaaaat? They are having fun in UK? Does EU know about this, it's gotta stop! Directives! Their cumumbers are not straight enough!

[A.F.F.]

Marcus setting faster time on split 1 than Petter on the first loop.

[pentti]

That´s the reason you living there?Two things.More motorsport in tv than in Finland and more small talk + no euro.

[Mauri A]

Whaaaat? They are having fun in UK? Does EU know about this, it's gotta stop! Directives! Their cumumbers are not straight enough!
Isn´t your kukumember straight enough?

[A.F.F.]

Two things.More motorsport in tv than in Finland and more small talk + no euro.

Oh I see. And I saw you last summer. Pentti fancies a smalltalk with the ladies :D

[Finni]

Mikko loosing a bit.. I hope that this rally is not coming duel between Marcus and Seb. Go Petter! Go Mikko!

[A.F.F.]

About Rally Portugal... Loeb fighting back again.

This is getting really tense :up:

[Brother John]

Two things.More motorsport in tv than in Finland and more small talk + no euro.

NO EURO! :D That´s the best I heard today :bandit: :laugh:

[Mauri A]

Oh I see. And I saw you last summer. Pentti fancies a smalltalk with the ladies :D
And has shillings and halfpennies in his pocket instead of cents or € :s

[A.F.F.]

And has shillings and halfpennies in his pocket instead of cents or € :s

That's the thing. As VIP, pentti didn't need any cents or euros :up:

[jonkka]

He gets his booze for free?

[Mauri A]

NO EURO! :D That´s the best I heard today :bandit: :laugh:
Count your crowns, it will not last long.

[Helstar]

Too bad the car is so excellent... :D
I agree. How can I disagree. Maybe they need to find some better setups. But I don't think so.

maybe he should stand on the car and let co-driver drive.
Maybe some smiley faces will do the joke ^^

Some BFGoodrich tyres should solve his problems :D
Eh ... probably you're right.

[Finni]

Where is Petter!

[Brother John]

About Rally Portugal... Loeb fighting back again.

This is getting really tense :up:

Who is there still intrested in Loeb? :p : :laugh:

[A.F.F.]

Sebastien fastest so far. Petter doing one helluva time :eek:

[Brother John]

Count your crowns, it will not last long.

It depend how many Kronor you have! ;) :D

[Finni]

Petter appeared from nowhere and is leading the stage, but can he stand against Loeb's massive push in teh second half of the stage?

[Mauri A]

It depend how many Kronor you have! ;) :D
I´ve got 52!

[Gard]

Looks like Petter pushed a bit to hard