[Cze] Šumava Rally + Historic rally Vltava

[Mirek]

Second round of the Czech international championship, 10-12th April.

Entry list (there may be some additional crews):
http://www.mogul-sumava-rallye.cz/download/MSRK/2008/MSRK_2008_entry_list.pdf

Maps:
http://obecniurad.cz/msr.cz/?language=cz&page=divaci

Timetable:
http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=a64d635531308063f63eaedd5324d0bf

Entry list historical cars:
http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=121a8f4d5e370e840e61cdda62b5cc8e

There are several interesting foreign entries as Gassner's family from Germany ;)

[Tom206wrc]

I hope Roman Olodzilik received his 207 this time and will effectively start the event :confused:

[Mirek]

He received the car last tuesday but it wasn't possible to start on Valasska.

[Mirek]

There are some non-speciffied additional entries to the rally both in modern and historic cars.

[Tom206wrc]

No pic of Olodzilik's car yet ???? :confused:

[Mirek]

No but it is again in his classic blue...

[Mirek]

So, the additional entry are:

Daniel Běhálek (N12B)
Jiří Volf (Evo 9)
Jan Sýkora (Evo 9)
Jaroslav Vančík (C2R2)
Lukáš Pondělíček (Felicia Kit Car A6)
František Markvart (Fabia A5?)

Jouni Papunen (Talbot Sunbeam 1600 TI)
Villu Mättik (VAZ 2101)

[PLuto]

No pic of Olodzilik's car yet ???? :confused:

First picture here: http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=20&p=4530#p4530

It was taken by mobile phone, so quality isnt so best...

Of course, car is also in S2000 database: http://www.s2000rally.com/car-detail.php?car=105

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Pluto :)

[Mirek]

Starting tomorrow 15:42 CET with new cars and 14:42 with historical cars ;)

No link to the results so far but will be here: http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/cr/?id=34

First mising crews are Štěpánek, Sýkora, Vančík and Rada.

[Mirek]

Results:
http://reco.pb.cz/cgi-bin/soutez/2008/klatovy/reco/overal?horni=&trida=&pohar=

Starting order:
http://www.mogul-sumava-rallye.cz/adownload/1207915924.pdf

Results historical cars:
http://reco.pb.cz/cgi-bin/soutez/2008/klatovyh/reco/overal

[Tom206wrc]

SS1 running :bounce:

[Mirek]

SS1 is circuit stage. Were fast, not technical so the results are very close. It is dry and nice weather (almost 20°C).

[Mirek]

Václav Arazim is said to have changed the wheel. If it is true than he might brake his own record because he was in finish in +1:32 to Kresta :D

[Tom206wrc]

Good time from Olodzilik :bounce:

Average time for Petak, though :mark:

[Mirek]

This stage means nothing, the real rally starts on stage 2... Anyway Odložilík is fast but often crashes (and he has evo 2 Pug). I hope he reaches the finish.

[Mirek]

Stage 2 is even faster :( 126 km/h for Kresta. Way too much even for S2000...

[Tom206wrc]

Olodzilik slower than Petàk on SS2... :mark:

[Mirek]

Stage 2 stopped. Rescue team on stage after Daniel Landa's roll. Don't have more information...

And another crash on stage 3 - Gavlák, stage stopped.

[Tom206wrc]

Oh no it starts with incidents :mark:

[Mirek]

So, Daniel Landa was unconscious in the moment after the big crash. He was taken to the hospital for further medical inspection. It should be quite ok...

There were two crashes in almost the same time on stage 3. Votava and Gavlák...

[Tom206wrc]

Apparently SS4 is running :confused:

[Rallye_106]

Nice fight between Pech and Valoušek! :s mokin:

[Mirek]

Both stages 2 and 3 cancelled. 2 for about a half of the crews but 3 for almost all of them except the top...

[Mirek]

This is realy the worst possible way... stage 5 cancelled after a crash. It is third from five :(

[Tom206wrc]

:s

[Mirek]

Short video from circuit stage 1:
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/getvideo.php?id=256

[kabouter]

Is it the conditions, the roads or the drivers? Or just bad luck that 3 out of 5 stages have been stopped after accidents?

[Mirek]

It was sunny today but the roads are dirty after the winter and somewhere wet in the woods. Stages were very fast today and often very narrow. Sumava used to be a winter rally until this season. But I don't think that is the main reason. The true thing for me is that we have huge competition (about 40 N4 on every rally) this year and when 20 or more drivers are fighting for every second for whole rally, some of them just make mistakes. We expected some crashes sooner but on Valasska rally all top 18 start numbers reached finish which. It was quite unbeliavable...

Valclav Arazim retired (gearbox)
Roman Odložilík was in a ditch for few seconds

[Mirek]

Pavel Valoušek lost 30 seconds on stage 7 and he reported big vibrations and handling problems on service. He said they didn't know the problem :(

[Filip]

That's bad news :( , his bad luck continues, I hope he can make it to the end of the day. And Pech managed to beat Kresta on ss8, very good fight.

[Mirek]

Good news. All who were taken to a hospital suffered fortunately only minor injuries.

[Filip]

That's good. ;) Do you know what happened to Odložilik on ss8?

[Mirek]

Vaclav Pech made a mistake and lost a wheel on stage 9. He is out for today at least.

[Mirek]

For Tom ;) ... in fact I don't like Odložilík's colours.
http://rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/364-47ffb9ff7046d.jpg
First gallery here:
http://rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=364&au=0

[Tom206wrc]

2s between Olodzilik and Petak at the end of the leg(both in top 10)...maybe an S2000 fight for tomorrow :)



Edit: thanks Mirek :D

[Filip]

:D Me neither, but at least they look better on Pug than on Punto.
Can Pech continue tommorow under superrally?

[Mirek]

Filip: I'm not sure since the rulles are different than last year. At least he can fight for bonus points from second leg (9-6-4-1).

Another crash from top 10 on stage 9. Jan Jelínkek crashed. He tried to continue but it wasn't possible.

[Mirek]

Pech is not going to start today because we count best 6 of 9 results. Few points would be good for nothing.

[Tom206wrc]

Why did Jozef Petàk have a 10s penalty yesterday after leg 1 :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Problem for Odlozilik on SS11 ??? :confused:

[JHvP]

Why did Jozef Petàk have a 10s penalty yesterday after leg 1 :confused:

Jump start at SS7

[Tom206wrc]

What does "jel na blinkry" mean ??? :confused:

[Madeira]

unfortunatley the rally was decided very early. Roman Kresta has played very high and we saw the consequences on his contenders. In nowadays I guess the only man can stop him in the Czech championship should be Jan Kopecky, sometimes V Pech and M Prokop. I'm wrong?

[[Madeira-Rally]]

unfortunatley the rally was decided very early. Roman Kresta has played very high and we saw the consequences on his contenders. In nowadays I guess the only man can stop him in the Czech championship should be Jan Kopecky, sometimes V Pech and M Prokop. I'm wrong?

Maybe you can add Valousek ;)

[JHvP]

What does "jel na blinkry" mean ??? :confused:

It means use winking light. Odložilík had technical problem. Than he retired. :(

[wwbroe]

Number 73, Jin Volf, who was fifth overall after 13 stage's seems to have hit problems on stage 14. Who is this driver, he seems to be going quite well and has a bad entrynumber (73). But he was fifth overall so i would suspect him to be really fast? Can anyone of our Tsjech collegues answer my question maybe? ;)

[wwbroe]

So, finished and easy win once more for Kresta. Second came Trojan at 2'42"4, third Valousek at 3'09"0, fourth Stajf at 3'26"5 and finally fifth Pétak at 4'53"8. Another easy victory for Kresta. ;)

[Tom206wrc]

There's one stage left to run WWBroe ;)


Not so bad finally Jozef Petàk in the S2000 with an almost 5th place overall :)

[wwbroe]

There's one stage left to run WWBroe ;)


Not so bad finally Jozef Petàk in the S2000 with an almost 5th place overall :)

Is there Tom, i thought it was only fifteen stages and i think these were the results after SS15, so correct me if i am wrong. ;)

[Rallye_106]

It was 16 stages. On the results page they messed up the 16. SS link. ;)
Results after 16: http://reco.pb.cz/cgi-bin/soutez/2008/klatovy/reco/overal?horni=16&trida=All&pohar=Bez

[wwbroe]

It was 16 stages. On the results page they messed up the 16. SS link. ;)
Results after 16: http://reco.pb.cz/cgi-bin/soutez/2008/klatovy/reco/overal?horni=16&trida=All&pohar=Bez

Ok, thank you for the info, it seems like nothing has changed to the top five ;)

[Mirek]

Number 73, Jin Volf, who was fifth overall after 13 stage's seems to have hit problems on stage 14. Who is this driver, he seems to be going quite well and has a bad entrynumber (73). But he was fifth overall so i would suspect him to be really fast? Can anyone of our Tsjech collegues answer my question maybe? ;)

Volf isn't a bad driver. He is quite fast but often crashes. He had that number because he was an additional entry. His starting possition was somewhere around 15-20. He retired after some technical issue.

[wwbroe]

]Volf isn't a bad driver. He is quite fast but often crashes. He had that number because he was an additional entry. His starting possition was somewhere around 15-20. He retired after some technical issue.

Thanks for the info Mirek ;)

[Mirek]

I've just returned from SS11, 12, 14. Odložilík had some engine problem. It looked like he was on 3 cylinders.

Landa's car after the crash: http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2062/landakr4.jpg
Gavlák's car after the crash: http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6135/gavlaknf9.jpg

Another short video:
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/getvideo.php?id=258

There will be photos and videos of huge crash of Szabo today. It was on stage where there is the jump on the video. He had a crisis with wrong dumper settings after the jump there. In the second run it was in opposite direction and he broke a tree there. Fortunately without injury...

Pavel Valoušek was veeery unlucky again. Yesterday he had problems with the car, today he had problems with the car. He had broken driveshaft (stage 10,11) and central differential (12-14).

[Filip]

Looks like competition is very high this year with so many crashes, luckily everyone is OK.

[Mirek]

Szabo crash, bad quality:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yFloMQeEarY

[Rallye_106]

Luckily he didn´t hit any of the tree´s. :eek:

[Mirek]

Onboards...

Arazim SS1 Circuit with record 1:13 tyre change: http://www.mediasport.cz/multimedia/videa/rally-cz/arazim_rz1.wmv
Peták SS2: http://www.mediasport.cz/multimedia/videa/rally-cz/petak_rz2.wmv
Valoušek SS3 with problems with the car from ca 7th minute after a jump: http://www.mediasport.cz/multimedia/videa/rally-cz/valda_rz3.wmv
Volf SS11: http://www.mediasport.cz/multimedia/videa/rally-cz/volf_su_rz11.wmv

[wwbroe]

]Onboards...

Arazim SS1 Circuit with record 1:13 tyre change: http://www.mediasport.cz/multimedia/videa/rally-cz/arazim_rz1.wmv
Peták SS2: http://www.mediasport.cz/multimedia/videa/rally-cz/petak_rz2.wmv
Valoušek SS3 with problems with the car from ca 7th minute after a jump: http://www.mediasport.cz/multimedia/videa/rally-cz/valda_rz3.wmv
Volf SS11: http://www.mediasport.cz/multimedia/videa/rally-cz/volf_su_rz11.wmv

Nice video's Mirek, but it looks like the stages are very fast and not so technical, maybe that is why Gr. N cars are doing it so well over there, because their higher maximum speed. A S2000 car has not that high maximum speed (i think about max 180 Km/h). Is that just an idea of me or do you think the same? :o

[urabus-denoS2000]

Nice video's Mirek, but it looks like the stages are very fast and not so technical, maybe that is why Gr. N cars are doing it so well over there, because their higher maximum speed. A S2000 car has not that high maximum speed (i think about max 180 Km/h). Is that just an idea of me or do you think the same? :o

Well the main reason is that the top guys (Kresta,Pech,Valoušek) stay with group N.

[Mirek]

The stages from onboards in my point of wiev :)

SS1 is definitely too straight. It is just an opener of the rally, some tradition for spectators for dozens of years...

SS2 is also very fast but You can see that there are only two places (I think) where Peták is in rpm limiter with 207 (top speed 167 on short - tarmac gearbox). I would say the stage is quite dangerous because of many hi-speed horizonts which are very hard. Maybe strange but I like it...

SS3 is definitely the best one of these. It is technical (we have no Italian-like stages here) and very very difficult in my opinion. There are many realy hard places there.

SS11 is again very fast.

Urabus: You've got the point ;)

[Mirek]

Better video of Szabo crash:
http://www.stream.cz/video/62651-crash-rz14-v-szabo-sumava-2008

[Mirek]

Another onboards ;)

Pech SS5, the same as he lost the wheel in second run, very hard and narrow
http://www.mediasport.cz/multimedia/videa/rally-cz/pech_SU_RZ5_WM9_512_Download_PAL.wmv
Kresta SS10, the longest one
http://www.mediasport.cz/multimedia/videa/rally-cz/kresta_rz10_WM9_512_Download_PAL.wmv

[Mirek]

Anothe onboard:

Valoušek SS16, car finaly repaired, top speed 210 km/h...
http://www.mediasport.cz/multimedia/videa/rally-cz/valda_SU_RZ16_WM9_512_Download_PAL.wmv

[Tom206wrc]

Do you think Roman Olodzilik's 207 will be repaired in time for this week's Böttcher Rally Vyskov ??? :confused:

[Mirek]

I think yes because it didn't seem to be that much damaged. It looked like going on three cylinders but still movable. It was definitely engine problem.

[Mirek]

Video, Gavlák crash:
http://cametech.webnode.com/products/crash-petera-gavlaka-na-sumave/

[Mirek]

Nice ewrc video in a good resolution ;)
http://www.rallyvidea.com/?ref=1&id=8&video=2008/Rally_Sumava_2008_eWRC.wmv