Was Kimi Baited?

[Firstgear]

Did Heikki intentionally go deep to bait Kimi into going too deep & off? It looked that way to me.

Last year Lewis got alot of heat on this forum when he said "I made him (Massa) make a mistake." Was Heikki toying with Kimi in the same way?

Just wondering how the rest of you saw this.

[yodasarmpit]

Looked to me that Kimi just went in too fast.

[ioan]

Did Heikki intentionally go deep to bait Kimi into going too deep & off? It looked that way to me.

Last year Lewis got alot of heat on this forum when he said "I made him (Massa) make a mistake." Was Heikki toying with Kimi in the same way?

Just wondering how the rest of you saw this.

Brain fade from Kimi, he must have forgot there is a turn coming up.

As for the "made him make a mistake", that's just bull... , if he outbrakes himself it's because he fukced up not because anything else, given that driver is the only one controlling the brakes, not Heiki nor Lewy.

[janneppi]

Kimi's line and entry speed were more than optimistic into that corner, add to that he didn't really need to overtake Heikki as he needed to pit anyway, silly mistake that almost cost him the race there.

[Rollo]

Did Heikki intentionally go deep to bait Kimi into going too deep & off? It looked that way to me.


Isn't it the duty of every driver out there to force other drivers into making a mistake? Provided there was no contact at all, and no deliberate blocking then this is like a very small disturbance in a teacup.

[Easy Drifter]

I think he just goofed. But if he was 'baited' then he really goofed. Trying to sucker or force another driver into an error is racing, plain and simple. Heck, that is how most passes occur!

[BDunnell]

No way did Kovalainen do anything deliberately there.

[markabilly]

Looked clean and professional to me; OTOH, Kimi might have stayed on track had HK been as dumb as DC and collected second (till the engine went) ........of course they would still be gluing parts of K's car back together....

[Firstgear]

Isn't it the duty of every driver out there to force other drivers into making a mistake? Provided there was no contact at all, and no deliberate blocking then this is like a very small disturbance in a teacup.I don't think a driver has to force another into a mistake. A Ferrari just needs to steer around a Super Aguri, no mistakes required. It just looked like HK & KR both went deep and HK was able to hold it. Maybe HK sensed that Kimi was getting desperate, and saw that Kimi's tyres were worn. So maybe he went in extra deep, hoping Kimi would follow & lose it.

I didn't mean "baited" in a negative way. But reading thru the responeses I've gotten in this thread, seems I am making something out of nothing

[ioan]

I don't think a driver has to force another into a mistake. A Ferrari just needs to steer around a Super Aguri, no mistakes required. It just looked like HK & KR both went deep and HK was able to hold it. Maybe HK sensed that Kimi was getting desperate, and saw that Kimi's tyres were worn. So maybe he went in extra deep, hoping Kimi would follow & lose it.

I didn't mean "baited" in a negative way. But reading thru the responeses I've gotten in this thread, seems I am making something out of nothing

Interesting enough you got 666 posts at this moment! :D

[harsha]

THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST :D :

Up the IRONS \m/

and on the topic...no i don't believe that Heikki foxed Kimi in any way...Kimi just overcooked it

[Ranger]

Brain fade from Kimi, he must have forgot there is a turn coming up.

As for the "made him make a mistake", that's just bull... , if he outbrakes himself it's because he fukced up not because anything else, given that driver is the only one controlling the brakes, not Heiki nor Lewy.

If Lewis was in Heikki's position he would've said "I tricked him" :D

But the truth is that Kimi made his own mistake for which no one else is responsible. I'm sure he wouldn't make any excuses for that.

[leopard]

I didn't see that way, Heikki was supposed to have higher place than it was if implementing proper strategy. He didn't do it only to Kimi but he was also giving hard pressure on Alonso. Ferrari drivers got that results from their style on driving by its nature :D

[Valve Bounce]

I didn't mean "baited" in a negative way. But reading thru the responeses I've gotten in this thread, seems I am making something out of nothing


You got that right!!

Maybe you could say it in French?

[Tazio]

Kimi a-t-il été amorcé ?

[Mark]

If Kovalainen did 'trick' Kimi into going off, then great! Shows good race craft, but I don't think he did.

[pino]

It was a great duel and none did anything wrong...a part from Kimi missing the braking-point :p : Anyway nice attempt by Kimi, let's see more of it :up:

[ioan]

If Lewis was in Heikki's position he would've said "I tricked him" :D

And many would have believed him, again! ;)

[SGWilko]

One think we can tentatively take away from Melbourne is that, without TC, if you are disadvantaged with your grid position, abd are under pressure to make up places, errors are more likely to be made.

This is what proper racing is about.

Love it.

[MAX_THRUST]

I think the incident with the Toyota was more a case of brain fade, as for the Heiki incident, I felt Kimi forgot to break where he should asd Heiki swaped sides of the track,

great racing.

[aryan]

If Kovalainen did 'trick' Kimi into going off, then great! Shows good race craft, but I don't think he did.

Yes. Kimi made an amateur racing error which is very common in lower formulae: outbraking the car you've already passed.

[Bagwan]

Hook , line , and sinker .

Punked , truly , punked .

The Finn fought the Finn , and the Finn won