Belgian Championship [Archive]

Wim_Impreza

15th March 2008, 16:24

Good idea to make this the official thread for the Belgian championship.

Live results first round, East Belgian Rally: http://www.ris-timing.be/rallye/abr/2008/homeresu.htm

Kris Princen, the leader after SS3 in a Lancer Evo 8 Group A, rolled three times on SS4. No injuries.

Standings after SS7:
1 Freddy Loix (Peugeot 207 S2000 - S2000) 47'37"3
2 Patrick Snijers (Porsche 911 GT3 - GTP24) +45"3
3 Kurt Heckters (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8 - A8) +1'20"1
4 Marc Duez (Porsche 911 GT3 - GTP24) +1'24"8
5 Chris Van Woensel (Nissan 350Z - GTP24) +1'28"4
6 Françis Lejeune (Porsche 911 GT3 - GTP24) +2'16"0
7 Steve Hendy (GB - Ford Focus WRC - A8) +2'40"1
8 Gilles Schammel (L - Renault Clio R3 - A7) +3'14"8
9 Bernard Servais (Renault Clio R3 - A7) +4'05"1
10 Erik Vleminckx (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9 - N4) +4'06"0

As we all can see, the GT's are very promising so far. Especially when you know that this is a very technical rally.

dumb

15th March 2008, 19:54

Che.GT cars are very cool.But it looks like that Snijers ar other GT driver wont catch Fast Freddy.Good driver.

Wim_Impreza

15th March 2008, 21:42

Standings after day 1:
1 Freddy Loix (Peugeot 207 S2000 - S2000) 1h23'32"8
2 Patrick Snijers (Porsche 911 GT3 - GTP24) +1'35"9
3 Kurt Heckters (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8 - A8) +2'31"0
4 Marc Duez (Porsche 911 GT3 - GTP24) +3'01"4
5 Chris Van Woensel (Nissan 350Z - GTP24) +3'12"6
6 Steve Hendy (GB - Ford Focus WRC - A8) +5'20"9
7 Françis Lejeune (Porsche 911 GT3 - GTP24) +5'30"0
8 Gilles Schammel (L - Renault Clio R3 - A7) +6'46"6
9 Stéphane Lhonnay (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9 - N4) +7'17"1
10 Erik Vleminckx (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9- N4) +8'08"3

Bruno Blaise is as always very fast in his home rally. He is 12th with a Opel Corsa from 1992!

Most important retirements: Kris Princen (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8 Group A, rolled on SS4), Andy Lefevere (BMW M3 E46, lost wheel on SS2) and Yannick Bodson (Audi S2 Quattro). Maybe some of them can use the SupeRally tomorrow...

This night and tomorrow, they expect rain. Let's see what the Porsches and the Nissan can do than.

Photos: http://www.autosportforum.be/showthread.php?t=509&page=49

Wim_Impreza

15th March 2008, 22:00

Video: http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid155905698?bclid=155898705&bctid=1458147720

Juha

16th March 2008, 02:37

Bruno Blaise is as always very fast in his home rally. He is 12th with a Opel Corsa from 1992!
The man deserves a medal for his spectacular driving. :D

Yannick Bodson (Audi S2 Quattro).
"Last year I had to retire because I'd forgotten my car's keys at home, it wasn't much better this year. This morning I felt the car constantly steering to the right. It was impossible to drive so we retired after three stages. Then we put the right tyres on the left, and the car steered to the left. Then we fitted four new ones and it went fine. I wonder what I'll do next year to eliminate myself." He didn't seem too bothered though, just kept on laughing with it. :D

HaCo

16th March 2008, 10:30

We stood very near at the start of Ster, the stage where Princen rolled (only once, not 3x). Bodson was very late there allready, but we did see him passing to the start...

Heckters is going awesome today. He won first two stages and is very close to Snijers now. I enjoyed watching him driving yesterday, for me is he's the man of the rally!

Almost forgot, Bruno Blaise indeed deserves a medal for his spectacular passes!!! :D :D

Juha

16th March 2008, 12:54

http://www.rallyfoto.be/albums/804/images/001.JPG

http://www.rallyfoto.be/albums/804/images/006b.JPG

http://www.rallyfoto.be/albums/804/images/004c.JPG

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Sulland

16th March 2008, 13:49

Loix continues to impress in the S2000 against A8 WRC cars.

What kind of Corsa is the one running in class M14 doing well ?

Tom206wrc

16th March 2008, 13:58

Why no update of SS17 since a long time already ?? :confused:

HaCo

16th March 2008, 14:11

Because updates come very slow in belgium... :)

What you see now on SS17 are the historic cars. Between the start of the first historic car and the first modern car there is 20mins!! After the last historic car there are 2 zero cars...
Worth to mention: there were only 4 historic rally cars, one was out on the first stage and a second one was out at the the end of the first leg. IMO it was better to let them start next to the modern cars...

Juha

16th March 2008, 14:35

What kind of Corsa is the one running in class M14 doing well ?

http://www.rallyfoto.be/albums/804/images/027d.JPG

http://www.rallyfoto.be/albums/804/images/027c.JPG

It has a very good 8 valve engine and a six-speed gearbox.

HaCo

16th March 2008, 14:54

Here you can find video's of the rally:
http://freecaster.tv/rally
http://www.pitstoptv.info/pitstop/?page_id=430

Grtz

VFTS

16th March 2008, 15:43

[quote="Sulland"]Loix continues to impress in the S2000 against A8 WRC cars.

Only one WRC-car did start the rally, the others withdraw because of the Cols-testcrash.

HaCo

16th March 2008, 16:24

Princen and Heckters both drive an A8 Mitsu Evo 8. But, Loix couldn't match the speed of Princen in the first Leg. I think an S2000 is slightly to slow to match an A8 Mitsu...

HaCo

16th March 2008, 17:23

Loix takes his first win in the 207. I hope he will have some luck this year and make some nice results in the 207 in the IRC... Let's wait and see.

Sulland

16th March 2008, 17:47

http://www.rallyfoto.be/albums/804/images/027d.JPG

http://www.rallyfoto.be/albums/804/images/027c.JPG

It has a very good 8 valve engine and a six-speed gearbox.

That is veeery impressive !!!!
Is he a local ?

Fly

16th March 2008, 21:53

That is veeery impressive !!!!
Is he a local ?

Yes, he's a local. No a youngster anymore but always great fun watching him!

18th March 2008, 11:42

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18th March 2008, 11:44

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Tom206wrc

18th March 2008, 12:55

http://trdsales.toyota.co.nz/shop/shop_images/p_runx-f%5B1%5D.jpg

What's the link with the belgian rallies championship ??? :confused:

wwbroe

18th March 2008, 17:31

Chris Princen had another crash on sunday, he restarted under superally and had another roll on the Rivage stage. He finished up on his roof in a fast flowing river. Luckely some spectators didn't hasitate to jump into the cold water and saved both Chris and his codriver from the river. Apparently they will decide coming sunday about their plans for the future.

HaCo

18th March 2008, 17:35

Jarek Z

18th March 2008, 21:59

MartijnS

19th March 2008, 00:02

Yes, he did.

GTA

20th March 2008, 16:24

Our friend GTA returns to the Rene George Rally team. Seeing the surcomstances that is very nobel of him...
http://www.rallylovers.be/?pagina=nieuws&sub=&id=2488&start=&eind=&fotonaam=RALLYLOVERS_20080318173600 Its better i answer this myself: Yes i Return to the Volkswagen Polo S2000 and Rene Georges Rallysport, after all that happened last week where many people lost a great friend i felt it was my duty to return to the team and continue the great work that was done... The team also wants to express again many thanks to all that send their support and feelings during the last difficult week and time to come.... the 1st next rally's will be in Belgium and in Austria 4-5 April.

wwbroe

20th March 2008, 16:32

Jack, it's good to see you're back with RGRS, and i hope you can continue the good work of Hans (RIP). Do you have any news of the condition of Larry? I hope he will be OK and maybe back in a rallycar in the future. What are the direct plans for this years championship in Belgium? See you on the stages!

GTA

20th March 2008, 16:53

All i know is that Larry is soon going to awake from the Coma where he still is in.... only after that they will know how he is going to recover.... concerning the Belgium Championship, the VW Polo will continue, as in Austria and Denmark.

wwbroe

24th March 2008, 20:33

Chris Princen and the Jetcar-team decided yesterday that they will go on with the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8 gr.A. He will not change between this car and the Renault Clio (wich he used last year), because the difference in driving style is to big between the two cars. So they will start in TAC-rally Tielt in two weeks time. ;)

Jarek Z

24th March 2008, 20:44

wwbroe

25th March 2008, 11:33

Pauwels Motorsport (Jetcar-team) is building a brand new Mitsu Evo 8 Gr.A for Chris Princen, as the old one(alltough he was not old?) was to badly damaged after his two crashes in Esat Belgian Rally. They are trying very hard to get the car ready for next week's shakedown for TAC Rally, wich will be the second round of the Belgian Championship. ;)

wwbroe

26th March 2008, 19:46

Belgian VW club announced today that they will continu the Polo S2000 project in the Belgian Championship and maybe some rounds in IRC. As Larry Cols will not be able to drive in the upcoming months they decided to give the opportunity to Berndt Casier to continu the program. ;)

wwbroe

5th April 2008, 12:48

In TAC Rally, second run of the Belgian Championship, it is Princen who is leading after 4 stages. Second Deferm (Impreza WRC) at 7'2sec, third Lietaer (Subaru WRC) at 17'2sec, fourth Casier (Polo S2000) at 27'9, fifth Debackere (Toyota Corolla WRC) at 43'0sec and sixt Snijers (Porsche GT3) at 1'08"3. It's good to see that Chris recovered well from his two off's in East Belgian Rally. :p

wwbroe

5th April 2008, 15:17

After eight stages in TAC Rally:

1. Princen Chris (Mitsu Evo 8 grA)
2. Deferm Hubert (Subaru WRC S10) at 10"7
3. Casier Berndt (VW Polo S2000) at 41"5
4. Debackere Melissa (Toyota Corolla WRC) at 1'18"0
5. Lietaer Paul (Subaru WRC S7) at 1'20"4

Madeira

5th April 2008, 16:07

where I can find the stage results, please?
Thank you!

wwbroe

5th April 2008, 16:17

where I can find the stage results, please?
Thank you!

Madeira, you can find them here:
http://www.tacrally.be/V4/Uitslagen/nationaal.asp

wwbroe

5th April 2008, 17:22

Second placed driver Hubert Duferm went off the road at SS10, so now Princen has over a minute advance to Casier in the Polo S2000. :o

wwbroe

5th April 2008, 18:18

After 12 stages and with 4 remaining in TAC Rally:

1. Princen
2. Debackere at 1'56"3
3. Casier at 2'17"0
4. Snijers at 2'37"0
5. Van Parijs at 4'50"6
6. Lietaer at 5'04"9

wwbroe

5th April 2008, 21:54

After 16 stages, end of the TAC Rally:

1. Princen
2. Debackere at 2'11"1
3. Casier at 2'35"0
4. Snijers at 3'11"7
5. Lietaer at 5'00"1

Great victory for Princen after his problems in East Belgian Rally and also a good third place for the first outing of Casier in the Polo S2000. :)

Jarek Z

6th April 2008, 11:33

wwbroe

6th April 2008, 14:22

And now let's take a look at the Belgian Championship standings:
1. Snijers 31,
2. Loix 20, Princen, 20,
4. Debackere 18, Heckters 18,
6. Casier 16

Snijers and Porsche in the first place. Just like... 20 years ago! Who said time travels are impossible? :D

P.S. Timothy van Parijs and his Porsche finished in the 6th position. It's great to see him in a rally car again after the terrible accident he had last year!

Jarek, he did allready a few rallies last year with Ford Fiesta ST and also with the Porsche, first as zero car, but also as a competitive car. His accident happened almost two years ago. But you are right, it is great to see him back on the stages. ;) ;) ;)

HaCo

6th April 2008, 18:34

I saw 10 stages yesterday at the TAC rally and it was really nice. Casier, Snijers, Princen, Lietaer are very spectacular boys togheter with the historic cars!
Very nice result for Casier in his first rally in the VW. I just hope they can solve the issue about the car that is overheating. But apart from that, very good result.

Juha

7th April 2008, 06:33

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http://www.rallyfoto.be/albums/808/images/004d.JPG

wwbroe

7th April 2008, 20:15

Nice pics, Juha ;) Keep up the good work. :)

millbrook

8th April 2008, 15:50

a couple of my pics :

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millbrook

8th April 2008, 16:03

a few more

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HaCo

8th April 2008, 16:40

Jep, awesome pictures Juha and Millbrook!

[Madeira-Rally]

8th April 2008, 17:24

It's always great to see the gentleman Patrick Snijers in action!! :up:

Veekaa

12th April 2008, 09:49

my pics and videos (3) online on www.rallyephotos.be (http://www.rallyephotos.be/)

http://rallyephotos.be/fotos2008/TAC/images/DSC_0131_JPG.jpg

http://rallyephotos.be/fotos2008/TAC/images/DSC_0309_JPG.jpg

Jarek Z

12th April 2008, 12:10

]It's always great to see the gentleman Patrick Snijers in action!! :up:

But why do you call Snijers a gentleman???

P.S. Great photos guys! Thanks!

[Madeira-Rally]

12th April 2008, 12:23

But why do you call Snijers a gentleman???

P.S. Great photos guys! Thanks!

Because he really is...

He was in Madeira many times.. and was always a real gentleman.. not only a very good rally driver ;)

Jarek Z

12th April 2008, 12:33

[Madeira-Rally]

12th April 2008, 12:38

Ah, so that's what you mean!

For a second I thought that you called him a gentleman driver and I really wanted to come to Madeira and kick you in the a.s.s :D

He was in Poland many times as well:
http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=152&pg_[go]=147 (http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=152&pg_%5Bgo%5D=147)

:D

No, Snijers is really great.. I think everyone know that :)

Look at the way he drive nowadays :eek: really impressive how he does with the Porsche :s mokin:

wwbroe

12th April 2008, 15:07

] :D

No, Snijers is really great.. I think everyone know that :)

Look at the way he drive nowadays :eek: really impressive how he does with the Porsche :s mokin:

I complete agree with you Madeira, he really is a great driver, and even if he is past 50 years old now he still is going fast with whatever car he is driving. He also won the Boucles de Spa Legends in februari with an Escort MK2. Great driving and lots of spectacle. ;)

Sulland

12th April 2008, 15:58

Some Snijers videos worth watcing ?

For instance this one:http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJB8BtkSEHM

wwbroe

12th April 2008, 16:03

Some Snijers videos worth watcing ?

Most of them are worth watching, but i remember especially the one from Manx rally where he was driving BMW M3, but i don't have the link here for the moment. Maybe somebody else have? :)

Veekaa

13th April 2008, 16:54

snijers onboard in Condroz Rally 2007: www.rallyephotos.be/Video/onboard/2007.html (http://rallyephotos.be/Video/onboard/2007.html)

wwbroe

14th April 2008, 13:05

Next week-end (25-27 april) will take place the next round of the Belgian Championship with all the usual contenders. It is called "Rallye de Wallonie" and will see the first appearence of Raphael Auquier in the RGRS prepared VW Polo S2000. Let's see how he will do, because het doesn't have much experience with powerful rallycars.
There will be a superspecial stage on fridayevening at the "Citadelle de Namur", further 12 stages on saturday (3 x four same stages) and a further 10 stages on sunday. Here is a link to the official website of this rally:
http://www.automobileclubnamur.be/

HaCo

14th April 2008, 17:28

Good news of Auquier, he will do the rest of the championship in an S2000 (instead of only 4 events).

Sulland

15th April 2008, 00:37

Since I am currently living in Wallonia I would like to go up to Namur to have a look at Saturday.

Can any of the ones that has local knowledge come with suggestions on what stages are best to watch, and where on the stages ?

Is this a asfalt only rally, or are some of the stages gravel ?

Sulland

21st April 2008, 12:03

No one of the belgians here that can give me advice on where to go ??

Come on !

Fly

21st April 2008, 13:05

No one of the belgians here that can give me advice on where to go ??

Come on !

If you want me to give you advice, pm and tell me what kind of spots you're looking for. Slow, fast, handbrakes,... I'll give you some good spots. I live 10 km from where it's happening.

wwbroe

21st April 2008, 15:02

All the information you need about Rally de Wallonie is to be found on their website:

http://www.velvetmotion.com/automobileclubnamur/rallyedewallonie/index.html

Also the results of special stages will be found there, once the rally get's going.

wwbroe

28th April 2008, 07:49

This weelend's Rally de Wallonie ended with victory for Hubert Deferm in a Subaru Impreza WRC, second was Smelcher in a Porsche GT3 and third Romain in a Mitsu Evo 9 Gr. N. The rally lost a few of the leaders during the several stage's. After first day it was Snijers in the lead but he broke a transmission-axle on his Porsche. Then it was Van Woensel who took the lead in his Nissan GT but he broke the clutch and second place man Casier in his Polo S2000 broke some electricity off the fuel pump and also retired. So it was finally Deferm, who had an off in the beginning of the rally and lost about three minutes there, who took the victory. I can also mention that Princen in his Mitsu Evo 8 Gr.A broke the engine early in the rally, and Auquier in his Polo S2000 broke trhe differential at the start of stage 6, which was a pitty because he was doing quite well in his first outing with the RGRS Polo.

wwbroe

28th April 2008, 10:50

Overall standing in Belgian Championship after three rounds:

1. Snijers 31Pts
2. Lhonnay 28 Pts
3. Van Parijs 27 Pts
4. Smelcher 24 Pts
5. Princen 20 Pts
Loix 20 Pts
Deferm 20 Pts
8. Heckters 18 Pts
Debackere 18 Pts
Casier 18 Pts

Next round will be Sezoensrally in Bocholt where there is a lot of gravel. :D

wwbroe

17th May 2008, 11:46

In Sezoensrally in Bocholt, fourth round of Belgian championship, Snijers retired in first stage due to engine problems on his Subaru Gr.A (BMA). Also retirement for Kuipers in his Focus WRC, who went off the road in stage one. :mad:

Mirek

17th May 2008, 14:48

What happened to Berndt Casier? He is doing nice times but somehow dropped to 15th overall...

wwbroe

17th May 2008, 22:01

]What happened to Berndt Casier? He is doing nice times but somehow dropped to 15th overall...

Casier had engine problems and didn't finish the rally, likewise for Snijers and Princen. The rally was won by Erik Wevers in a Focus WRC, second Deferm in a Subaru WRC, third Kleinjan in a Skoda Fabia WRC, Monnen in an Mitsu Evo 8 GrA, fifth Melissa Debackere in a Toyota Corolla WRC and sixt Raphael Auqier in the second RGRS Polo S2000. Mark van Eldik went off the road when he was in battle with Wevers.

HaCo

18th May 2008, 11:52

Went to Bocholt yesterday, what a very nice rally thanks to the DUTCH drivers! What a pitty that almost all the fast Belgian drivers had to give up and despite what you sometimes read about the Dutch drivers, they are very fast and showed us some very nice spectacle!
Aucqier impressed me as well: not far from Casier, faster than Kuipers and vene beaten Casier once on a stage. He finnished 6th overal!

So many thanks to the drivers from Netherlands which provide us a very nice spectacle!

wizaron

18th May 2008, 16:26

Pics of Sezoensrally ;)

http://www.wizaron.be/sezoens_08/medium/IMG_4252-047.jpg

http://www.wizaron.be/sezoens_08/medium/IMG_4251-046.jpg

http://www.wizaron.be/sezoens_08/medium/IMG_4021-004.jpg

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