Top 35 in Owners Points

[RaikkonenRules]

Looks like there's going to be a huge change in the top 35 in owners points.

Around the top 35 mark after 4 races:

31. 26 Jamie McMurray (+38)
32. 44 Dale Jarrett (+29)
33. 96 JJ Yeley (+24)
34. 70 Jeremy Mayfield (+21)
35. 55 Michael Waltrip (+14)
36. 77 Sam Hornish Jr. (-14)
37. 22 Dave Blaney (-15)
38. 40 Dario Franchitti (-24)
39. 01 Regan Smith (-56)
40. 45 Kyle Petty (-77)

Disappointed to see Blaney outside the top 35. Should hopefully get himself out next week if he runs well at Bristol. I reckon Mayfield and Yeley will drop out next week while Blaney and Hornish could get in.

All the teams behind Kyle Petty I don't think have a shot at getting in the Top 35 now.

What do you think will happen?

[RaceFanStan]

after Race 04 @ Atlanta

(last race using 2007 Owners Points is @ Bristol)


LOCKED IN Top 35 in Owners Points - 4 Starts http://www.motorsportforum.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif
01 Kyle Busch #18
02 Greg Biffle #16
03 Kevin Harvick #29
04 Ryan Newman #12
05 Jeff Burton #31
06 Dale Earnhardt Jr #88
07 Kasey Kahne #9
08 Tony Stewart #20
09 Brian Vickers #83
10 Kurt Busch #2
11 Martin Truex Jr #1
12 Matt Kenseth #17
13 Jimmie Johnson #48
14 Bobby Labonte #43
15 Jeff Gordon #24

Currently IN Top 35 in Owners Points but NOT Locked In - 4 Starts http://www.motorsportforum.com/forums/images/icons/spin2.gif
16 Clint Bowyer #07 +156 points
17 Carl Edwards #99 +153 points
18 Mark Martin #8 +141 points
19 Denny Hamlin #11 +133 points
20 Elliott Sadler #19 +122 points
21 David Ragan #6 +118 points
22 Reed Sorenson #41 +111 points
23 Juan Montoya #42 +111 points
24 Robby Gordon #7 +104 points
25 Paul Menard #15 +102 points
26 Scott Riggs #66 +89 points
27 David Reutimann #00 +78 points
28 David Gilliland #38 +72 points
29 Travis Kvapil #28 +48 points
30 Casey Mears #5 +33 points
31 Jamie McMurray #26 +38 points
32 Dale Jarrett #44 +35 points
33 Michael Waltrip #55 +23 points
34 Jeremy Mayfield #70 +21 points
35 J.J. Yeley #96 +18 points

Currently OUT of the Top 35 in Owners Points but could make it IF ... http://www.motorsportforum.com/forums/images/icons/eek.gif
36 Sam Hornish Jr #77 -18 points / 4 Starts
37 Dave Blaney #22 -25 points / 4 Starts
38 Dario Franchitti #40 -34 points / 4 Starts
39 Regan Smith #01 -66 points / 4 Starts
40 Kyle Petty #45 -81 points / 4 Starts
41 Ken Schrader #49 -96 points / 1 Start
42 Joe Nemechek #78 -96 points / 3 Starts
43 Mike Skinner #84 -105 points / 1 Start

Hopelessly LOCKED OUT of making the Top 35 in Owners Points @ Bristol http://www.motorsportforum.com/forums/images/icons/s.gif
44 Bill Elliott #21 - 1 Start
45 John Andretti #34 - 2 Starts

[Jonesi]

Realistically it would take a top 20 race finish for Hornish, Blaney or Franchitti, a top 15 for Smith or a top 10 for anyone else to break into the "top 35", (assuming the other guys have their usual mid pack finishs.)

[RaceFanStan]

35 Sam Hornish Jr #77

(points out of 35th in owner’s points)
36 Jamie McMurray #26 -004
37 Dave Blaney #22 -022
38 Dario Franchitti #40 -037
39 Regan Smith #01 -039
40 Kyle Petty #45 -060
41 Joe Nemechek #78 -114
42 Ken Schrader #49 -132
43 Mike Skinner #84 -138
44 Bill Elliott #21 -162
45 John Andretti #34 -178
46 Patrick Carpentier #10 -186

Jamie McMurray finished 43rd @ Bristol & dropped 5 spots to 36th in owner’s points.
Sam Hornish Jr finished 29th @ Bristol but captilized on McMurray’s misfortune,
Hornish moved back into the top 35 (35th) in owner’s points going to Martinsville .....

[RaceFanStan]

Top 35 in Owner's Points AFTER Bristol
01 -- Kyle Busch #18 782 points
02 -- Greg Biffle #16 -030
03 -- Kevin Harvick #29 -033
04 +1 Jeff Burton #31 -037
05 +1 Dale Earnhardt Jr #88 -096
06 +1 Kasey Kahne #9 -108
07 +1 Tony Stewart #20 -126
08 -4 Ryan Newman #12 -147
09 +7 Clint Bowyer #07 -176
10 -- Kurt Busch #2 -177
11 +1 Matt Kenseth #17 -178
12 -1 Martin Truex Jr #1 -187
13 -- Jimmie Johnson #48 -201
14 +1 Jeff Gordon #24 -208
15 +4 Denny Hamlin #11 -214
16 +2 Mark Martin/Aric Almirola #8 -219
17 -- Carl Edwards #99 -234
18 -9 Brian Vickers #83 -245
19 -5 Bobby Labonte #43 -271
20 +3 Juan Montoya #42 -273
21 -1 Elliott Sadler #19 -274
22 -1 David Ragan #6 -284
23 +5 David Gilliland #38 -292
24 -- Robby Gordon #7 -307
25 +1 Scott Riggs #66 -316
26 -4 Reed Sorenson #41 -321
27 -- Michael McDowell #00 -321
28 -3 Paul Menard #15 -333
29 -- Travis Kvapil #28 -354
30 +3 Michael Waltrip #55 -380
31 +4 J.J. Yeley #96 -396
32 +2 Jeremy Mayfield #70 -408
33 -3 Casey Mears #5 -414
34 -2 David Reutimann #44 -415
35 +1 Sam Hornish Jr #77 -426

[Jonesi]

Latest from Jayski, neither Petty or Roush currently plan to swap owner points from their championship drivers.

[RaikkonenRules]

Latest from Jayski, neither Petty or Roush currently plan to swap owner points from their championship drivers.

Good. Anyone that abuses the champ provisional just isn't a true racer in my eyes.

[Lee Roy]

I wish they'd limit the Past Champion's Provisional to only champions over the last 5 or 10 years.

That is, if they are going to have a Past Champion's Provisional at all. It is the most abused rule that NASCAR has.

[tstran17_88]

a Past Champion's Provisional at all. It is the most abused rule that NASCAR has.Is that code for DW? :D

[djarumdudley]

Nascar needs to return to the system of the 80s and 90s. time in the quickest 40 teams then have 41 and 42 be the standard highest owner's points provisonals. perhaps also bring back two rounds of qualifying to give a measure of protection against a fluke failure in the first round.

fnow or the 43rd postion how's this for entertainment: dump the champion's provisional and bring back a short track staple, the promoter's option. who wouldn't want to be a fly on the wall in room where it's being decided whom of two teammates races or goes home. or perhaps two past champions?

or under this scenario, given the current points situation what if Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon both had disastrous qualifying rounds. i'd pay ringside heavyweight championship fight ticket prices to sit in on that debate.

[jeffconn]

Forget about provisionals. Have a last chance race for the last 3 spots. ;)

[RaceFanStan]

The qualifying system of the 80's and 90's was rather complex.
(it was tweaked from year to year but the general layout follows)

Friday Qualifying - the quickest top 25 drivers were locked-in ...
the other drivers speed/times were recorded & they had the option on Saturday ...
Saturday 2nd Round Qualifying - the non-top 25 quickest drivers could stand on Friday's speed/time OR
they could re-qualifying, if their time was faster, they could gain position ...
however if their time was slower they were stuck with the slower time,
Saturday's speed/time erased Friday's qualifying speed/time

Provisionals went from 0 to 3 to 5 (early to mid 80's) & then to 7 (late 80's),
the Previous Champion's Provisional came along around the time DW's career was winding down ...

Also their was NO one engine rule & qualifying set-ups were very radical.

I have no desire to see qualifying return to the system of the 80's and 90's. :s

[jeffconn]

I liked 2nd day qualifying. There was a lot of risktaking on that day. Lots of brushes with the wall.

An aside, didn't the Daytona 500 used to have THREE days of qualifying? i seem to recall Dave Marcis was always trying to improve his time to get one of the two backup qualifying speed spots if he didn't race well enough in the Twins.

[Lee Roy]

An aside, didn't the Daytona 500 used to have THREE days of qualifying? i seem to recall Dave Marcis was always trying to improve his time to get one of the two backup qualifying speed spots if he didn't race well enough in the Twins.

I believe that you're right. I had forgotten about those additional qualifying days at Daytona.

[djarumdudley]

the 3rd round at Daytona was removed sometime in the early 90s. i seem to recall one year when Harry Gant got disqualifed in round two and had to go again on the third day. tuesday prior to the Twins was third round day.

the champions rule was actually created for Richard Petty during the twilight of his career. in 1989 the King missed four short track events. this was back in the day of 32 car fields on the short tracks and two provisionals. for that period of time the rule made sense and was basically a reward to a legend.

it was three(two regular, one past champ) up until the early to mid 90s. it was increased to seven in either 94 or 95 as there was a boom in start-up teams and better funded teams at that time. additionally there were some races where it would be a 42 car grid instead of 43. if all past champs qualified on time the 43rd slot remained vacant.

i recall a race or two where Dave Marcis was the only DNQ, but Nascar ran a 42 car field due to the limitaion of the PCP rule at the time. it was adjusted yet again following if all champs timed in or otherwise. those types of situations to allow the next highest points runner in. this tweak allowed some interesting deals to occur. there were a few events where Dale Earnhardt and Terry Labonte needed provisionals to make the field, but opted for the PCP to allow another car entry to the grid.

[call_me_andrew]

Provisionals went from 0 to 3 to 5 (early to mid 80's) & then to 7 (late 80's),
the Previous Champion's Provisional came along around the time DW's career was winding down ...

I believe the Champoin's Provisional came from Richard Petty.

[RaceFanStan]

It could have been for Richard Petty but people will have to admit DW used it much more than Petty did. :eek:

[djarumdudley]

i do agree with that sentiment. Waltrip had unfortuantely stretched his career just a bit too far.