WRC Testing

[Xsara-WRC]

C4 in action ardeche with Loeb .

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/278607/IMG_1698.jpg

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/278607/IMG_1700.jpg

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/278607/IMG_1710.jpg

More pics here ---> http://supp.loeb.free.fr/ and http://extremrallye.free.fr/

[bennizw]

Nice to see Loeb back behind the wheel again. Will be interesting to see if he's fully recovered for the Monte, allthough I expect he'll be healed some time before. Also good to see that we can attach pictures in the post.

[1LM1]

Thanks for the pics ! Look at the rear wing. Maybe I didn't realize it was already there in the previous tests but it seems to be a new (and a nice!) one.

Great to see Loeb back indeed :)

[N.O.T]

Is this a test before or after his injury ??

[Xsara-WRC]

Is this a test before or after his injury ??


After ;) ---> 05/12/2006

[Xsara-WRC]

More pics and video ---> http://wrcrally.multiforum.nl/viewtopic.php?t=291&mforum=wrcrally

http://pix.nofrag.com/e8/33/066f72c6d3b8a11918bdd35f67b3.jpg

[escortg3]

If it goes as well as it looks Seb will be champion again next year. :D :D

[cal]

Yeah it looks great! It has a hundred times better looks than the Xsara.

[Peugeot206WRC]

Yeah it looks great! It has a hundred times better looks than the Xsara.

No way =(
The Xsara looks much better... According to my eyes

[cal]

No way =(
The Xsara looks much better... According to my eyes


Maybe you are near-sighted? ;)

I don't know, maybe I'm biased because I think the Xsara is one of the worst cars I've driven... the feel, the quality. It really sucks! I'm talking about the standard car now, not the WRC.

[Xsara-WRC]

Xsara is a great looking car to me and a great WRC car ;)

[Peugeot206WRC]

http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs10/300W/i/2006/077/d/4/Xsara_Coupe_WRC_by_Maphia78.jpg

http://www.2cauto.hu/images/modell/xsara/main_coupe.jpg

I dont know if thats the correct private Xsara, but yes, as a road car it doesnt look very nice. But as a rallycar with other spoilers, a bigger wing, rims and a wider weelhouse? it looks much better.
Its not the best looking wrcar (as the 206 is) but I think it looks better then the C4..
C4 isnt that a mine?

[cal]

Yeah for sure it looks better as a WRC car than a standard car, I'll agree with you on that.

[Halvis]

IMO, the C4 is much better looking than the Xsara, which I find boring.

[StevoEvo]

Here's some good C4 testing vids guys :D
Sounds Awesome !!!!!!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b21bec19-c347-4f6e-b98f-983600fdd3c0.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/ba762fb5-4e64-40f8-8122-9851008fd144.htm

[Xsara-WRC]

Much Better ---> Test 05-12-2006 ;)

http://supp.loeb.free.fr/c4.2007.wmv

[escortg3]

Much Better ---> Test 05-12-2006 ;)

http://supp.loeb.free.fr/c4.2007.wmv

Looks and sounds awsome, hopefully a win for Seb on the Monte. :D

[René]

Another one video here:

http://rallyeshots00.free.fr/vid2006/

Today it was Dani SORDO with C4 too some video later

[HaCo]

Are you allowed to test with sponcers and car number?

The car looks fast, hope next year wont be a one-man show!!

[kernel_gdi]

Subaru has been testing 4 days (2 Atkinson, 2 Solberg) in Catalonia for the first time with the BFGoodrich. All photos are from Atkinson.

http://www.kernel.ipfox.com/

[animrallye]

Ford's tests were at the same place that Citroën saturday and sunday, in Ardèche.
Link to a french Forum with a lot of pictures.

http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/theme38/sujet378074-140.htm#t14791168

[Brother John]

A New new Italian Team super 2000 test video!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc5zQ9RgAI4&mode=related&search

[animrallye]

A New new Italian Team super 2000 test video!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc5zQ9RgAI4&mode=related&search
It's Gigi Galli :p

Not possible :

3.6 Competition Cars not on four wheels and tyres.
On a road section that is a public road, a competition car may only be driven on four wheels and tyres.
Any infringements will be reported to the Stewards who may impose a penalty. :D

[StevoEvo]

A New new Italian Team super 2000 test video!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc5zQ9RgAI4&mode=related&search

PMSL luv it!!!!!
Here's another S2000 vid on asphalt :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmCQpuVsbgU

[HaCo]

Are you allowed to test with sponcers and car number?

The car looks fast, hope next year wont be a one-man show!!

Nobody knows an answer on my question?


Man, that focus looks bloody lovely in white!!!

Subaru Testing on BF Goodrich: http://usuarios.lycos.es/kernel_gdi/test7.html

[FrankenSchwinn]

peugeot206wrc, C4 is a maliable plastic explosive. a friend of mine works with that stuff. link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-4_(explosive)

wow, on the vid of loeb testing, at about 1:30min that vroom pshiit vroom pshiit sound, was that the launch control?

[FrankenSchwinn]

Nobody knows an answer on my question?


Man, that focus looks bloody lovely in white!!!

Subaru Testing on BF Goodrich: http://usuarios.lycos.es/kernel_gdi/test7.html

i guess they can show sponsors if they are already signed on.... i bet if there were some objections to that there would be trouble.

[Priorat]

Subaru has been testing 4 days (2 Atkinson, 2 Solberg) in Catalonia for the first time with the BFGoodrich.

Solberg was not there. Passi Hagstrom took the wheel for friday and saturday

[Simmi]

Man, that focus looks bloody lovely in white!!!


You are so right. They should run it in white with mucky wheels all next season! It could not look any nicer.

[306 Cosworth]

A New new Italian Team super 2000 test video!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc5zQ9RgAI4&mode=related&search

That looks like it would be a giant killer in Swedean and Norway next year :D

[kernel_gdi]

Subaru has been testing 4 days (2 Atkinson, 2 Solberg) in Catalonia for the first time with the BFGoodrich.

Solberg was not there. Passi Hagstrom took the wheel for friday and saturday

oh, what a mistake :D i only went to 2nd day of Chris, and i was told next 2 days would come Petter...


PD: ens vam creuar potser?

[Profaster]

Solberg was not there. Passi Hagstrom took the wheel for friday and saturday

I think, that what You mentioned was and will be one of the biggest problems of Subaru, even they nowadays will use BF Goodrich.

Mr. Hagström was a guite good driver, but his skills as set-up maker and developer was not so good. I made these remarks on those days, when he droves his Corolla WRC. He hasn't logic when he changed his set-up's and sometimes he hasn't even idea what to do. Sometimes he was totally lost with his set-up's!

Example: Do anybody remember how many rallies or even stages Mr. Hagström won outside of Finland and Estonia with his Corolla WRC???

And what comes to testskills of Petter and Chris, I'm not convinced either...

[jbmarcus21]

Ford Test !!

Here my video Ok ...
Marcus & Timo test ...

http://planetemarcus.free.fr/essaissaison07.htm

;)

[A.F.F.]

I think, that what You mentioned was and will be one of the biggest problems of Subaru, even they nowadays will use BF Goodrich.

Mr. Hagström was a guite good driver, but his skills as set-up maker and developer was not so good. I made these remarks on those days, when he droves his Corolla WRC. He hasn't logic when he changed his set-up's and sometimes he hasn't even idea what to do. Sometimes he was totally lost with his set-up's!

..

What I've heard it's pretty much the same.

[MJW]

What I've heard it's pretty much the same.

I understand that Pasi Hagstrom and Esko Reiners were brought to SWRT when Tommi arrived in 2002, and Tommi tried to re-create the "Finnish connections" he had at Ralliart when he failed to persuade Lasse Lampi to leave Ralliart at the same time as he did. I also dont think Colin McRae was much of an effective test driver, maybe SWRT should hire Carlos, as in my opinion I think he was the best test and development driver whilst still an active rally driver.
Having said that I think Petter is more than capable of setting up a car - he works tirelessly on tests, often late into the night nad his technical feedback is very good, and he knows what he wants / needs and how a car works. By now most people realise the SWRT problems started in 2004 and got worse with each year of the 3 year programme committed by that homologation. Hopefully it gets better with S12B, and then S14 (the hatchback) the following year.

[Priorat]

Pot ser.

Subaru has changed the tyres but some things stay the same

[White Sauron]

I wonder if Ford' gravel rims will be black too... Hope so... Stealth-style.

[Brother John]

Pot ser.

Subaru has changed the tyres but some things stay the same

Yes they have to change the car!!!!!! :D :s mokin: :p :

[FrankenSchwinn]

was that atko?

[bennizw]

It seems that Subaru will do their winter testing at Haslemoen near Elverum i Norway instead of their usual Värmland in Sweden next year. Could become interesting.

[koko0703]

Subaru has been testing 4 days (2 Atkinson, 2 Solberg) in Catalonia for the first time with the BFGoodrich. All photos are from Atkinson.

http://www.kernel.ipfox.com/

Hummm....it's new look! The bonnet looks bit like P2000, and the duct on the side of the bumper is sealed now. And the hole in the rear??? I hope everything is better for next season ;)

[Brother John]

Since last Monday Citroën have tested with Loeb the C4 in Sweden!
http://www.bilsport.se/news.php?id=41270

Solberg will not test in Värmland Sweden! In Norway is it free, says Petter!
http://www.vf.se/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vf.se%2Fvf%2Fdocs%2Fvisa.asp %3FartikelID%3D98956

[traxx]

Since last Monday Citroën have tested with Loeb the C4 in Sweden!
http://www.bilsport.se/news.php?id=41270



Thanks for the links !!
Could you translate, please ?

[Brother John]

Thanks for the links !!
Could you translate, please ?

Article says only where it is and that them test the large sortiment spyke tyres from FB Goodrich!

[traxx]

Article says only where it is and that them test the large sortiment spyke tyres from FB Goodrich!
OK thanks ! And what about Rådström ?

[Brother John]

OK thanks ! And what about Rådström ?

He is just the co-ordinator for the test, the team is now in the aria where Rådsröm live and later in the week they will go 300km more to the north!

[Xsara Fan]

One more pic from Swedish tests of Citroen C4 WRC:
http://www.bilsport.se/bildarkiv/93/457e796ddc615.jpg

[bennizw]

Do I see a different livery than we have from before? It seems it's partly black on the side parts?

[1LM1]

Do I see a different livery than we have from before? It seems it's partly black on the side parts?

I think it's the same livery than the one of last week.
It seems to be black but it's the shadow.
The 2007 livery (with a new sponsor I hope) will be revealed on next saturday during the ROC event.
But I like the current one anyway.

[Slipzen]

Seb Loeb seems to be in the northern parts of sweden testing the C4 on snow and ice.

http://www.pitea-tidningen.se/artikel.aspx?artid=49855&cat=2&pageIndex=0&arkiv=False

[doodle]

There is a good video of C4 testing with Seb talking about the Car (in French) so if someone could translate that. not sure if this has been posted already.

http://www.citroen.com/CWW/en-US/SPORT/C4WRC/VIDS/

looks good

[Priorat]

was that atko?

yes, he was

[Priorat]

Mitsubishi testing yesterday on gravel in Catalunya.

[Brother John]

Mitsubishi testing yesterday on gravel in Catalunya.

According to me the driver on the photograph has a Red Bull helmet on!?
It´s maybe possible Aigner behind the wheel? ?????????????????? :eek:

[Priorat]

According to me the driver on the photograph has a Red Bull helmet on!?
It´s maybe possible Aigner behind the wheel? ?????????????????? :eek:

No he wasn't

[Mr. X]

According to me the driver on the photograph has a Red Bull helmet on!?
It´s maybe possible Aigner behind the wheel? ?????????????????? :eek:

LOL
Take a look:
http://www.krismeeke.com/images/gallery/300x200/_L3M4084_jpg.jpg

[miksu]

According to me the driver on the photograph has a Red Bull helmet on!?
It´s maybe possible Aigner behind the wheel? ?????????????????? :eek:

actually it looks like Garde with his blue helmet, and those red and yellow balloons in his helmet from Astra racing

Edit: Koti-Idea balloons ;) http://www.koti-idea.fi

[miksu]

More pics of Garde testing? anyone?

[Micke_VOC]

http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=22043&a=722452

Here a video from Swedish Television with Loeb testing in sweden.

[1LM1]

http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=22043&a=722452

Here a video from Swedish Television with Loeb testing in sweden.

Thanks for the link.

[Karukera]

There is a good video of C4 testing with Seb talking about the Car (in French) so if someone could translate that. not sure if this has been posted already.

http://www.citroen.com/CWW/en-US/SPORT/C4WRC/VIDS/

looks good


Was his first test with the C4 back in Feb 06. He's cautious in his comments, says the feeling is "quite good", the rear is OK in hairpins, i think he means it keeps a good balance in and after the turn. Car is more comfortable than the Xsara, it lacks some precision when it's fast, he thinks it's well born.

[Xsara Fan]

http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=22043&a=722452

Here a video from Swedish Television with Loeb testing in sweden.

Link for those who want to download this video:
http://rapidshare.com/files/7560439/061214-loeb.wmv.html

[SubaruNorway]

Eugene Donnely testing a Impreza S12

http://www.roydempster.com/album.asp?AlbumID=705

[padWRC]

Eugene Donnely testing a Impreza S12

http://www.roydempster.com/album.asp?AlbumID=705

Registration Plate of the car?

[Jaanus]

It is AT06 SRT you can see it from the photo. The car was used by Atkinson in Sardinia, Cyprus and Turkey.

[ProRally]

By the way is there snow around Hagfors... ? Just curios as Swedish Rally is not to far away

[Tomi]

By the way is there snow around Hagfors... ? Just curios as Swedish Rally is not to far away

just looked from webcam, no snow there

[MHjerpe]

The weather in Sweden is terrible... it to hot here... it should't be as it is now :( not even snow in the ski-resorts that usally is opened by now..

[Brother John]

By the way is there snow around Hagfors... ? Just curios as Swedish Rally is not to far away

Now snow and -4 a -6 degrees at the moment, they expect next week som snow! :cool:

[FF-fan]

So, it will be a "White Christmas" !!! :)

[GigiGalliNo1]

It's Gigi Galli :p

Not possible :
:D

I can see GiGi driving that! (relating to the New S2000 video link in the snow)


Pot ser.

Subaru has changed the tyres but some things stay the same

And yeh, I think that is Atkinson haha (relating to Subaru crashed in testing photo)

[bennizw]

6 - degrees over here in Norway, about 80 kms from some of RN stages for next year, but no snow yet. But as others say here, it's said the snow is coming this week.

[jbmarcus21]

And now my second video of Marcus test last week

http://planetemarcus.free.fr/videosessaissaison07.htm

[HaCo]

And now my second video of Marcus test last week

http://planetemarcus.free.fr/videosessaissaison07.htm

Very nice, thanks for providing us these video's, really cool!

Am I seeing this right and is the Focus on black wheels? Does this unveil something for next years livery?

[White Sauron]

Very nice, thanks for providing us these video's, really cool!

Am I seeing this right and is the Focus on black wheels? Does this unveil something for next years livery?

Yes, they are. And it looks damn great!!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/oversauron/blackrim.jpg

[aivan]

Testing for Monte 2007 has begun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc5zQ9RgAI4

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Sorry if it has been posted earlier.

[eppel]

Henning Solberg is on his way to England. Tomorrow he will be testing the Focus.

[René]

The video of "Subaru" test for Monte Carlo is here:

http://www.passion-rallyes.com/

[1LM1]

Citroën and Loeb were testing yesterday in the Alps region (near Chambery). No snow.
They are testing until tonight hoping to have some snow. They are using the "col du Galibier" roads today.

They are satisfied with the car so far but remain cautious. Loeb said that he will discover at the Monte Carlo rally if the car is easy enough to drive. He said he is confident but he said that he is not 100 % certain he is right about the set up of the car. He said: "wait and see".

Source: L'Equipe (French national newspaper).



Personaly, I really hope the car will be easy to drive. I know it's the key in rallying. I trust Citroën Sport. I am optimistic.
If the car is good, the fight with Ford should be fantastic all year long.
On the other hand, if the C4 is not easy enough to drive, Ford will be to hard to catch.

[traxx]

Today Loeb in the snow in the alps, great tests !!!
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2006/12/20/251-la-c4-teste-la-neige-francaise

[Simmi]

Looks like they found the snow they wanted then. If only the Monte could look like that!

[traxx]

Subaru also in France, the first time with BFG on tarmac ? Video & Fotos :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2006/12/20/252-subaru-sur-l-asphalte-en-bf

[Patwrc]

Are there any feedback from him?

[Viking]

Henning in Focus, Cockermouth:

http://atvs.vg.no/player/player.php?id=6727&keyword=

http://www.vgb.no/6339

[Xsara-WRC]

Test Citroën C4 WRC Loeb au col du Galibier ;)

---> http://rapidshare.com/files/8392072/essai_loeb_.wmv

[Xsara-WRC]

More pictures http://rfy1.free.fr/rfyxor/pageC42006/

[padWRC]

Kopecky test for Monte:
http://www.motorsport-kopecky.cz/cz/novinky/18122006-test/

[HaCo]

Kopecky test for Monte:
http://www.motorsport-kopecky.cz/cz/novinky/18122006-test/

It's a pitty First and Duval don't get the same support...

[jbmarcus21]

Hello hello ...

Wednesday 20th december I was to the tests of Petter Solberg in the south of France, here it video:
http://planetemarcus.free.fr/essaissaison07solberg.htm ;)

[traxx]

Today Loeb in the snow in the alps, great tests !!!
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2006/12/20/251-la-c4-teste-la-neige-francaise

Post updated with new link to video

[SubaruNorway]

Hello hello ...

Wednesday 20th december I was to the tests of Petter Solberg in the south of France, here it video:
http://planetemarcus.free.fr/essaissaison07solberg.htm ;)

Very nice and close up, im hoping to get to the test in Haslemoen Norway hopefully it's before montecarlo. Let me now if you hear something Benniz

[bennizw]

Yes, I'd like to join too, so please tell if you know a date yourself! :)

[SubaruNorway]

Does anyone now where the video of Loeb testing in the same place as subaru is.

[traxx]

No, this is not the same place.

[SubaruNorway]

I was just wondering as Wim in this forum thread http://www.pettersolberg.no/forum/read.php?11,465 says that loeb was slower than solberg on the same test site. He had read it in this forum http://frontibus.free.fr/forum/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=38cdc124ecc408ee5fb88fbfc4e834bc but there is a video of Loeb testing in the dry with some leaves on the road i think it was one of the first test videos

[spudrsca]

Post updated with new link to video

I've watched the video and to me the C4 doesn't seem as well-balanced as the Xsara.

[traxx]

Originally Posted by traxx View Post
Today Loeb in the snow in the alps, great tests !!!
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2006/12/20/251-la-c4-teste-la-neige-francaise

Post updated with new link to video
Updated again with a great long video by Rourebel !

[traxx]

I was just wondering as Wim in this forum thread http://www.pettersolberg.no/forum/read.php?11,465 says that loeb was slower than solberg on the same test site. He had read it in this forum http://frontibus.free.fr/forum/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=38cdc124ecc408ee5fb88fbfc4e834bc but there is a video of Loeb testing in the dry with some leaves on the road i think it was one of the first test videos
His french is not right. It wasn't the same site for sure. The day before the snow test, Loeb has tested on tarmac but this was not the same area.

[SubaruNorway]

Ok, any videos of Atkinson he should have been testing today and yesterday

[traxx]

Atkinson tests Pictures by Luceram (http://frontibus.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?p=133597#133597) :

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/4836/atkinson3ou2.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8589/atkinson1le7.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4822/atkinson4nv3.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1475/atkinson5vq8.jpg

[bennizw]

Absolutely beautiful pics! Do you know what camera and lenses he's been using?

[Finni]

I've watched the video and to me the C4 doesn't seem as well-balanced as the Xsara.

I got exactly same impression. It slides much like 307.

[grugsticles]

I got exactly same impression. It slides much like 307.
Yeah ditto to that.
Maybe its just our eyes playing tricks?

[SubaruNorway]

Wonder how many of the teams will do there winter testing in Haslemoen test camp. Would be strange if they where not as it's free with all fasilities and large hangars where they can park the trucks.

[Rourebel]

I' m sorry but I was to the C4 test on snow and both the car and the pilot were amazing. According to engineers the C4 is about 1sec/km fastest than the Xsara. We' ll see in Monte Carlo but Ford should be so far from Citroen.

[traxx]

No, sorry

Absolutely beautiful pics! Do you know what camera and lenses he's been using?

[White Sauron]

I' m sorry but I was to the C4 test on snow and both the car and the pilot were amazing. According to engineers the C4 is about 1sec/km fastest than the Xsara. We' ll see in Monte Carlo but Ford should be so far from Citroen.


C'mon! There're the laws of physics! 1sec per km faster is impossible if the car cannot fly. Just on such a spedd there will be absolutely no traction, no matter how powerful the car is. The "a" will move the car outside the corner, not to it!!

[SubaruNorway]

I' m sorry but I was to the C4 test on snow and both the car and the pilot were amazing. According to engineers the C4 is about 1sec/km fastest than the Xsara. We' ll see in Monte Carlo but Ford should be so far from Citroen.


In sweden? how many days did they do as they might do another one closer to the events. And finaly some snow coming this weekend.

[traxx]

Ok, any videos of Atkinson he should have been testing today and yesterday
Others HR pictures by Lancia (http://gallery.atpic.com/fr/9606) :

http://216.32.66.210/atpic/663/9606/0/376982/600.jpg
http://216.32.66.210/atpic/663/9606/0/376983/600.jpg
http://216.32.66.210/atpic/663/9606/0/376984/600.jpg
http://216.32.66.210/atpic/663/9606/0/376987/600.jpg
http://216.32.66.210/atpic/663/9606/0/377010/600.jpg

[traxx]

In sweden? how many days did they do as they might do another one closer to the events. And finaly some snow coming this weekend.
No, in France

[traxx]

A great video by Pidibu of the Solberg's tests :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2006/12/20/252-subaru-sur-l-asphalte-en-bf

[Rourebel]

The Subaru seems to be fast too, BF tires should be a big improvement for the team especially on tarmac.

[traxx]

The Subaru seems to be fast too, BF tires should be a big improvement for the team especially on tarmac.
And what a great Sound !

[Captain VXR]

I got exactly same impression. It slides much like 307.

Same chassis as the 307 too...

[Gard]

And what a great Sound !

This I wonder about. Is there somebody from Prodrive here? Or somebody else that has some new tech info about the car.

At least they must have done something drastic to the response system. sound more like an even burn, than the usual bangs. Also the sound of the "blow off" has chanced. In some of the test it sounds like they are using some sort of pressurized reservoir.

[SubaruNorway]

This I wonder about. Is there somebody from Prodrive here? Or somebody else that has some new tech info about the car.

At least they must have done something drastic to the response system. sound more like an even burn, than the usual bangs. Also the sound of the "blow off" has chanced. In some of the test it sounds like they are using some sort of pressurized reservoir.


Thats the old car not the 07 and i remember that sound from the Monte test last year but the sound must be realy close to 100db (think thats the limit) maybe it's so deep and not high pitch.

But the snow test in france was not for sweden but Mont Carlo, don't think theyl use tarmac setup in sweden

[Gard]

Thats the old car not the 07 and i remember that sound from the Monte test last year but the sound must be realy close to 100db (think thats the limit) maybe it's so deep and not high pitch.

But the snow test in france was not for sweden but Mont Carlo, don't think theyl use tarmac setup in sweden

No I'm talking about the sound from the respons system and pressure relief (blow off)

Ex. off the pressure relief. http://lelievre.vincent.free.fr/video/test_subaru.wmv

The sound at 1.37 when turning around. Same on 7.10 and 8.21

[Halvis]

A great video by Pidibu of the Solberg's tests :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2006/12/20/252-subaru-sur-l-asphalte-en-bf


Fantastic video! There's no comparison, but it looks really, really fast! Is it BFG's and new parts that are doing it????

[Simmi]

Does anyone know when Ford will be testing next?

[Finni]

According to engineers the C4 is about 1sec/km fastest than the Xsara.

In that case Loeb would win every by three minute. You can think is it realistic or not. Maybe they were just joking. On the other hand it's not the first time when the new car is said to be superfast without proper basement: few years ago it was said that 307 was 26 sec faster than 206 in the same 30 km distance. In reality 307 was just narrowly faster.

I remember that in the summer time Loeb - or some personel from Citroen - confirmer that according to parallel tests between the cars C2 was bit faster on asphalt but on gravel it was not yet as good as Xsara.

[Fischer]

Just saw the Subaru test with BF, the car seemed to have 500 instead of 300 bhp. Pretty fast!

[SubaruNorway]

No I'm talking about the sound from the respons system and pressure relief (blow off)

Ex. off the pressure relief. http://lelievre.vincent.free.fr/video/test_subaru.wmv

The sound at 1.37 when turning around. Same on 7.10 and 8.21

Yes thats what i meant, you can hear it in this video from cyprus in the first section. It appears when the response system is turned of.


http://www.rallyxl.com/index2.shtml

[1LM1]

Just saw the Subaru test with BF, the car seemed to have 500 instead of 300 bhp. Pretty fast!

It's not just an impression. Forget the 300 bhp legend. Actually, all top WRC cars are around 400 bhp now. That's also why they are so impressive to watch.

BTW, I want to underline this: these cars are fantastic to drive and to watch (4WD, high torque, power). All occasional drivers recognize that a WRC is one of the most exciting car to drive on earth: Dindo Capello, Andy Priaulx, etc.

The sad part of this story is that I think that most people will realize how great the WRC cars and the current technical regulations are only if this category disappears one day (I hope it won't happen!).

[traxx]

Ok, any videos of Atkinson he should have been testing today and yesterday
Link to a video by Poypoy :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2006/12/20/252-subaru-sur-l-asphalte-en-bf

[alleskids]

http://www.cronospeed.com.br/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7128 Kris Meeke in the C4 in wet tarmac and the Suzuki Swift WRCar

Suzuki's programe for 2007 Finland, Corsica and Great Britain.

[SubaruNorway]

Link to a video by Poypoy :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2006/12/20/252-subaru-sur-l-asphalte-en-bf

Hope there is going to be this many videos from the test in Norway

[Woodeye]

http://www.cronospeed.com.br/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7128 Kris Meeke in the C4 in wet tarmac and the Suzuki Swift WRCar

Suzuki's programe for 2007 Finland, Corsica and Great Britain.

That C4 is one of the best looking WRC -cars ever! :up:

Not too many rounds for Suzuki...

[alleskids]

2007 is try out en find the weak parts year, 2008 will be the serious attack on Subaru, Citroen and Ford. And Mitsubishi if their financiel situation is healty enough. And on the several M2 teams.
And the red/white C4 looks ver good from the frontside , unfortunaly the back is not the best part. Which is the part of the car that the competition will see the most, Loeb and Sordo disappearing in the distance to the podium and champagne/celebration girls :) .

[White Sauron]

Which is the part of the car that the competition will see the most, Loeb and Sordo disappearing in the distance to the podium and champagne/celebration girls :) .

Ha-ha! You're dreaming!)))

[Donney]

I don't find the C4 so beautiful.

[ste898]

alleskids you must have a crystal ball......well I think you will be disappointed if you are waiting to see ****roen disappear into the distance

[animrallye]

Any informations about Ford tests in France in January ?

[Koppomsbo]

http://www.fejmtv.se/videoklipp/4439fa07837dc064

its a new brand entering the wrc ... dont know which one.. ;)

[traxx]

First C4 on board video :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2007/01/07/260-loeb-sur-m6

[miksu]

First C4 on board video :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2007/01/07/260-loeb-sur-m6

nice sounds :)

[jbmarcus21]

Any informations about Ford tests in France in January ?

It was today... But for the moment nothing... No photo..

[SubaruNorway]

And the Sweden test?

[Simmi]

It was today... But for the moment nothing... No photo..

How long are they testing for? 3 days?

[traxx]

Today Ford tests by Marcus :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2007/01/07/261-marcus-toujours-sur-l-asphalte

[White Sauron]

Today Ford tests by Marcus :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2007/01/07/261-marcus-toujours-sur-l-asphalte

More photos from the test:

http://frontibus.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2062

[Viktory]

More photos from the test:

http://frontibus.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2062

hmm, who is that in the co-drivers seat? doesn't look like Timo, especially not in the second to last picture, a mechanic? someone else? or just my eyes playing tricks?

Nice pics by the way :up:

[White Sauron]

hmm, who is that in the co-drivers seat? doesn't look like Timo, especially not in the second to last picture, a mechanic? someone else? or just my eyes playing tricks?

Nice pics by the way :up:

Yup, you seem to be right... He doesn't look like Timo...)) Yes, maybe a mechanic. But it's a common practice I belive. engineers need to understand what they change too...
Just for example, from december tests:

http://www.rally-news.org/img/photos/06.12.21_FCessaisford/grands/FCessais06_3.jpg

[grugsticles]

It looks a little like Marco Martin, but I suspect an enginner of some form.

[Viktory]

I wish I was him! :p

[White Sauron]

I wish I was him! :p

then just apply for the work at Ford ;)

[jbmarcus21]

Hello friends....

Yesterday and Today, Marcus was on South of France to test again on previous MonteCarlo'07.. Look the pictures here : http://planetemarcus.free.fr/essaissaison07bis.htm

Big thanks to my friends Jean-Louis Pansier for the photos !!

[Simmi]

Testing a new HUGE rear wing I see:
http://planetemarcus.free.fr/1730.jpg

[White Sauron]

Hello friends....

Yesterday and Today, Marcus was on South of France to test again on previous MonteCarlo'07.. Look the pictures here : http://planetemarcus.free.fr/essaissaison07bis.htm

Big thanks to my friends Jean-Louis Pansier for the photos !!

Hey! That's the same photos as on the forum I gave a link to! What for to doule-post?!

[miksu]

hmm, who is that in the co-drivers seat? doesn't look like Timo, especially not in the second to last picture, a mechanic? someone else? or just my eyes playing tricks?

Nice pics by the way :up:


might be engineer, or just a plain guy from collaboration company, sponsors, having fun... looks like there were different guys next to marcus

[traxx]

Cuoq with his Yacco 307 :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2007/01/09/263-cuoq-avec-yacco

[traxx]

Cuoq with his Yacco 307 :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2007/01/09/263-cuoq-avec-yacco

Updated with Terry's video (with on board cam !)

[miksu]

Updated with Terry's video (with on board cam !)

looked slow to me...maybe it was slippery :P

[Viktory]

Jimmy Joge has tested the Peugeot S2000 a few days ago.
http://www.bilsportborsen.se/news.php?id=1178
He said that compared to the WRC car, the S2000 has less torque and thus has to drive at higher RPM and more attack.

[SubaruNorway]

dhu

[RS]

Jimmy Joge has tested the Peugeot S2000 a few days ago.
http://www.bilsportborsen.se/news.php?id=1178
He said that compared to the WRC car, the S2000 has less torque and thus has to drive at higher RPM and more attack.

Thanks Viktory, do you know if anyone shot video of this test?

[Viktory]

Thanks Viktory, do you know if anyone shot video of this test?

Nope, sorry, I only found out about the test today (it was done on the 11th)

[René]

This morning on the MonteCarlo Ardeche's road, test with Gardemeister, Pons, Kopecky.
Some pictures here:

http://frontibus.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1276&start=1350

[HaCo]

Damn, it's nice to see those Mitsu's back. Hope the involvement will get bigger and bigger!!!

Have you seen the presentation on de Evo X in Detroit Autoshow?
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/13/video-mitsubishi-lancer-reveal-in-detroit/
In the video they refer a lot to rallying, I hope that means something!

[Koppomsbo]

like the looks of both the cars :up:

[edacurf]

does anyone know about testing the xsara (pictures??)

[René]

Some here but bad quality

[René]

one more

[René]

Sorry for the mistake !

[HaCo]

No vids of the mitsu testing? :D

[Xsara Fan]

Sorry for the mistake !

Rene, what was the numberplates of Stohl test-car?

[traxx]

Rene, what was the numberplates of Stohl test-car?
You can try to see it there :
http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/316712/stohl.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Cuoq with his Yacco 307 :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2007/01/09/263-cuoq-avec-yacco



Thanks for the video !! :up:

[Tom206wrc]

Jimmy Joge has tested the Peugeot S2000 a few days ago.
http://www.bilsportborsen.se/news.php?id=1178
He said that compared to the WRC car, the S2000 has less torque and thus has to drive at higher RPM and more attack.



Thanks for the news ;)

[Xeroid]

http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs10/300W/i/2006/077/d/4/Xsara_Coupe_WRC_by_Maphia78.jpg

http://www.2cauto.hu/images/modell/xsara/main_coupe.jpg

I dont know if thats the correct private Xsara, but yes, as a road car it doesnt look very nice. But as a rallycar with other spoilers, a bigger wing, rims and a wider weelhouse? it looks much better.
Its not the best looking wrcar (as the 206 is) but I think it looks better then the C4..
C4 isnt that a mine?

C4 is a Plastic Explosive, does that tell you anything ..?

[René]

Rene, what was the numberplates of Stohl test-car?

It seems to to me that number is 595 BYS 78
But I'm not sure !

[Xsara Fan]

It seems to to me that number is 595 BYS 78
But I'm not sure !


It`s 596 BYS 78 :)
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/683/img2344ir3.jpg

Other photos:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1302/img2385fg2.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4093/img4832cm8.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/2567/img4820na4.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8562/img2349in9.jpg
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/6995/img2376hr3.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9566/img2380hs6.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/7872/img2429jo0.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5053/img2430ee3.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2686/img2433hb6.jpg

from http://wrcrally.multiforum.nl

[StevoEvo]

No vids of the mitsu testing? :D

No vids exept from the old one that was released in November 06
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8228a961-b8eb-4d76-a880-987f01647d03.htm
Got these pics of a mitsu pre Monte test tho.. Got to say they look damn good
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/welshwille/Ponsgardetest3.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/welshwille/Ponsgardetest2.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/welshwille/Ponsgardetest1.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/welshwille/Ponsgardetest4.jpg

[Fischer]

Awesome, thanks!

[Donney]

The mitsi looks great Gardemesiter's livery looks quite nice and I hope Pons has some sponsors :p :

[MikeD]

Just love the front of that Mitsu. It's great that we will see them in more rallies this year.

[White Sauron]

Like the way it's "5th door" opens))

[René]

Video of Stohl Kronos Xsara on Monte Carlo road !

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=684HO6RO

[traxx]

Citroen tests in Spain :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2007/01/25/276-citroen-prepare-la-terre

[kernel_gdi]

More photos with Sordo behind the wheel

http://www.kernel.ipfox.com/

http://usuarios.lycos.es/kernel_gdi/DSC00369_resize.JPG

[padWRC]

Subaru Impreza WRC07 test with Atkinson in Sardegna/Italy for Mexico!
http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/index0.php?

[User]

I have a question: in the C4, can they see telemetry and stuff like that? 'Cause I don't see a display.

[Davide78]

Oh yes!!

Atkinson was here with both the Imprezas, the 06 and the the 07, for a comparative test with the same tyres (Subaru tested last year on those roads in the centre of Sardinia with the Impreza 06 but of course it used Pirelli tyres).

Some friends of me were there but they couldn't know how the differences about the cars performances was....

[kernel_gdi]

anyone knows which is the utility of the spotlight that appears in some photos? In the front left area of the car. Here you can see:

http://usuarios.lycos.es/kernel_gdi/DSCN3005_resize.JPG

I think is some kind of sensor to measure paramaters like speed, ground height, etc... Am I right?

[MHjerpe]

Strange.. never seen it before... measure road-temperature ? surface texture ? (hmm why is it placed inline with the front-wheel)

[rallymaster]

I would expect its a ground speed radar

[leno]

is this only picture where you can see this light or are there any others?

[SubaruNorway]

Has anyone heard if any teams are testing in Haslemoen test camp in Norway iether private ore factory as both Subaru and Stobbart are testing i Sweden even if the test camp is free?

[Racing Ka]

I don´t know what the lights is, but also Xsara test car have them on summer 2005 Rally Finland tests. On front and rear of car.

[rdr]

The correct answer is ground height...
(all teams use these in some tests)

[Viking]

Petter is testing S12B in Sardinia today, and in the weekend Subaru will do testing in Torsby,Sweden.

[Davide78]

Yes....today Solberg is here in the North Sardinia, to another comparative test between Impreza 06 and 07, like every year before Mexico.

Some Sardinian roads look similar to Mexican ones, so Subaru every year uses these roads for pre-Mexico tests.

I saw some pics taken by some friends of me that were there and the two Imprezas look rather different outside, esepcially in the front side, but above all inside. The engine is very different even simply looking at it.

[leno]

do you have any photos about testing in sardinia? i want to see new subbie

[Simmi]

Some pics here with a bit of disguise:

http://www.ewrc.cz/2006/show.asp?clanek=5122

[Davide78]

The boy who took the photos I wrote about showed me them in his notebook but as we met by chance we hadn't a cd or a usb pen to download them.

We'll meet again this weekend during a National Rally, so I'll be able to post them next Monday.

However the photos posted by ewrc.cz are rather expressive.

[grugsticles]

anyone knows which is the utility of the spotlight that appears in some photos? In the front left area of the car. Here you can see:

http://usuarios.lycos.es/kernel_gdi/DSCN3005_resize.JPG

I think is some kind of sensor to measure paramaters like speed, ground height, etc... Am I right?

Ive got a theory...

Perhaps there is a camera there somewhere too that watched the ground in front of the wheel. They may take note of the road infront of the wheel and how the suspension setup handles the actual road surface.

Merit there?

[Mickey T]

Correvit make a range of sensors that use light as the key measuring tool.

http://www.corrsys-datron.com/Support/Data_Sheets/Datasheets-Sensors/cds-d_SFII-P_e.pdf

i used Correvit light sensors for years testing road cars, but haven't used this latest generation of tool.

a lot of the general test stuff moved from light to microwave sensors a few years ago, and now VBox uses satellite navigation to do a similar job (it can measure the minimal height differences from when you open the door, for example).

however the light sensors are still the most accurate to the most decimal places.

they can be used for distance, time and acceleration, obviously, and that can link back to another CAN bus to trace the line used by the car on any given piece of road.

not being able to see the unit, i can't tell you what it is exactly, but i'd be pretty sure it would be something like this.

[WRC2006]

Correvit make a range of sensors that use light as the key measuring tool.

http://www.corrsys-datron.com/Support/Data_Sheets/Datasheets-Sensors/cds-d_SFII-P_e.pdf

i used Correvit light sensors for years testing road cars, but haven't used this latest generation of tool.

a lot of the general test stuff moved from light to microwave sensors a few years ago, and now VBox uses satellite navigation to do a similar job (it can measure the minimal height differences from when you open the door, for example).

however the light sensors are still the most accurate to the most decimal places.

they can be used for distance, time and acceleration, obviously, and that can link back to another CAN bus to trace the line used by the car on any given piece of road.

not being able to see the unit, i can't tell you what it is exactly, but i'd be pretty sure it would be something like this.


That is why I love this forum. With talented people!! Great man!!!

[Brother John]

Galway International Rally 2007 - Result afther day 1:
1. E. Donnelly/P. Kiley - Subaru Impreza WRC 1:08:06.6 Stunden
2. M. Gronholm/T. Rautiainen - Ford Focus WRC + 5.4 Sekunden
3. G. Machale/P. Nangle - Ford Focus WRC + 1:37.8 Minuten
4. E. Boland/F. Regan - Ford Focus WRC + 1:54.7
5. K. Lynch/G. Noble - Ford Focus WRC + 2:08.6
6. M. Higgins/R. Kennedy - Subaru Impreza WRC + 2:15.2
7. S. Murphy/M. J. Morrissey - Subaru Impreza WRC + 2:19.8
8. M. Barrable/D. O´Gorman - Ford Focus WRC + 3:07.5

[Viktory]

Patrik Flodin has tested the Impreza:

http://www.patrikflodin.com/Bilder2007/070203WRCtest.htm

I don't know exactly where the tests were held, but the roads look nice!

[1LM1]

Who is this Donnelly? He is fast!
Ok, he knows the roads but the Subaru is not the Focus.
Impressive.

[Micke_VOC]

Was on Patrik Flodin test today.
Nice pace from him...

A few kilometers from him Stobart and Munich tested.
Latvala had good attack

Pictures will be upp this evening...

[Micke_VOC]

... not Munich team ... =)

Munchis team of course.....

[HaCo]

... not Munich team ... =)

Munchis team of course.....

LOL :)

[Micke_VOC]

One picture from today:
Upload the rest tomorrow....

[Viktory]

Where exactly were the tests held? Anttila? Torsby?

[Viking]

SWRT testing Sweden

http://www.pettersolberg.no/article/news/2007/02/04/test-i-sverige/

[MHjerpe]

Petter test...

[Brother John]

At last they have put the car something higher according to me.
It look like the 555 old Impreza again!

[SubaruNorway]

It's not a road sweeper anymore thats for sure :D

[WRC2006]

Maybe the new Buldozer?!!

[Micke_VOC]

Where exactly were the tests held? Anttila? Torsby?

Bredsjön, between Torsby and Gräsmark

Tonight gonna be pictures and movie up on
http://www.motorsport4sale.com

[Viktory]

Bredsjön, between Torsby and Gräsmark

Tonight gonna be pictures and movie up on
http://www.motorsport4sale.com

ok, thanks, I'll check them tonight :)

[Micke_VOC]

Video from swedish tv from Daniel Carlsson test today:
http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=28152&a=754736

[Simmi]

Micke do you at least have the number plates of the Munchi's focus cars? I cant make the Raies one out from the picture.

[Jaanus]

Micke sent me the reg-numbers and they are now available on my website ;) A big thanks to him for that.

[Halvis]

Henning Solberg testet the Focus on snow yesterday - and were very satisfied! No pictures yet, will be uploaded on his webpage later.

[witto6]

www.motorsport4sale.com[/url]


How do you access the pictures please, cheers.

[Micke_VOC]

How do you access the pictures please, cheers.

Sorry but the pictures was not up yesterday, but a short movie is there.

Tonight i hope they are there.

Just click on the picture of startpage with Swedish Rally logo on.

[Halvis]

Some pictures of Hennings snow-test in Sweden a couple of days ago on his blogg:

http://www.vgb.no/6339/

He was satisfied with the test, but drove only 50 km - which he says was a little too short.

[SubaruNorway]

Short video from Hennings test http://www.teamexpert.no/default.aspx?m=2&amid=1214

You need to login to view

[jonas_mcrae]

any more pics from the Munchis guys?

[Micke_VOC]

Here is the photos from Latvala and Munchis test
http://www.motorsport4sale.com/sv_bilder_2007_070204_bredsjon_1a_65478.asp

[Micke_VOC]

The video from the test before sweden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGmaUlKzT2c

[Tom206wrc]

Video and pics of Anders Kjaer testing the Bozian whale he will drive next week-end ;)

http://www.kjaermotorsport.no

[kernel_gdi]

any news where Subaru/Ford are testing?

[SubaruNorway]

Subaru will be testing in Portugal next week i think it was

[DaniV]

Is this really a possibility? I mean, aren´t the WRC teams forbidden to test outside the FIA selected countries? I think Portugal doesn´t make part of this list, but I don´t know if my knowledge about this is right! So, it would be great if anyone could clear this doubt!

Obviously I hope it´s true!

[Sardalense]

13.2.2 For Manufacturers or Manufacturer teams
registered in the Championship, testing is permitted:
a) On a testing site proposed by the
Manufacturer or Manufacturer team and notified to
the FIA
b) In France, Great Britain and N.Ireland,
Spain, Italy and the Czech Republic.
c) For a maximum of four days per calendar
year in Finland, Greece and Germany and either
Sweden or Norway.
d) In the case of a Manufacturer, for a
maximum of 13 sessions (a session shall comprise
consecutive days). However, the total number of days
shall not exceed 48 in any calendar year. This clause
does not apply to testing as stated in clause a).

Subaru is not allowed to test in Portugal... How could it be possible?

[Sardalense]

Subaru will be testing in Portugal next week i think it was

SUBARUNORWAY1, where do you read that Subaru will be testing next week in Portugal ?

[SubaruNorway]

No it was Spain tought i heard it was Portugal sorry

http://www.nettavisen.no/sport/motor/article906041.ece

They are testing Monday and tuesday but Petter has asked for a extra day as he is a bit woried after the last test :(

[kernel_gdi]

the Subaru tests in Spain are for next week, or they finished today?

[SubaruNorway]

next week

[WRC2006]

No it was Spain tought i heard it was Portugal sorry

http://www.nettavisen.no/sport/motor/article906041.ece

They are testing Monday and tuesday but Petter has asked for a extra day as he is a bit woried after the last test :(

Do you mean that the Impreza 07 is not yet on the level to fight with Focus and C4?!

[SubaruNorway]

I have no clue, i think they struggeled a bit with the weight balance but so did the C4 and look how it ended up im sure they will sort it out

[Magnus]

It looks really bad for Subaru. May it be that the structural differencies between the Subaru and Cit/Ford are to big to come to grips with? Seems like it anyway: the Subaru is a little to big for it own good, and I also think that it has some aerodynamical drawbacks compared to Cit/Ford. The giant spoiler that they used before made the car understeer when sliding for one example. I remeber Petter mentioning sliding at high speeds causing the Subaru to loose its balance slightly, but that was two years ago...
I guess the CW, wheather you look at the cars front first, or from tha side, is better in Cit/Ford, and that is not really easy to build yourself around...

[SubaruNorway]

Petter testing in south of spain http://www.vgb.no/20075/

[Patwrc]

It seems that Petter is happy with his new toy. That's good anyway!

[WRC2006]

I have no clue, i think they struggeled a bit with the weight balance but so did the C4 and look how it ended up im sure they will sort it out

Petter said recently that they will remove around 30 kgs!

[Patwrc]

Are there any more pictures or videos of this test?

[kernel_gdi]

Mikko tests on gravel (Spain)

http://usuarios.lycos.es/kernel_gdi/DSC00949_resize.JPG

all the photos here http://kernel.mirror.at/

[bt52b]

It looks really bad for Subaru. May it be that the structural differencies between the Subaru and Cit/Ford are to big to come to grips with? Seems like it anyway: the Subaru is a little to big for it own good, and I also think that it has some aerodynamical drawbacks compared to Cit/Ford. The giant spoiler that they used before made the car understeer when sliding for one example. I remeber Petter mentioning sliding at high speeds causing the Subaru to loose its balance slightly, but that was two years ago...
I guess the CW, wheather you look at the cars front first, or from tha side, is better in Cit/Ford, and that is not really easy to build yourself around...

That doesn't make sense as hatchbacks usually have worse aerodynamics, unless its the way Subaru set it up?

[Halvis]

Pictures (mostly from test camp) and short comments from Petter Solberg's blogg can be found here:

http://www.vgb.no/20075/

He says that he's happy with the progress - and mentioned that Phil had commented that it has been a long while since he has seen Petter smile that much on testing. A good sign!

[curry]

When I was at Rally Sweden I was talking to someone (sorry can't name them for obvious reasons) very important in SWRT and his comments were basically along the line of: here we go again, we have just got the 06 right and now we have to start on the 07. It was more of how he said it rather than what he said that left me with impression that testing on the 07 model hasn't been good at all up to Rally Sweden.

Another team member (less in the know) basically said we just have to get through 07 and wait for the totally new 08 car before we start kicking arse.

For the sake of Subaru and the sport lets hope they have made some huge advancements in Spain.

Cheers

Curry

[jidoka]

When I was at Rally Sweden I was talking to someone (sorry can't name them for obvious reasons) very important in SWRT and his comments were basically along the line of: here we go again, we have just got the 06 right and now we have to start on the 07. It was more of how he said it rather than what he said that left me with impression that testing on the 07 model hasn't been good at all up to Rally Sweden.

Another team member (less in the know) basically said we just have to get through 07 and wait for the totally new 08 car before we start kicking arse.


Not a good sign of the state of the team. Two different stories about the same topic.

But, I do hope Subaru can get it all back together.

[koko0703]

When I was at Rally Sweden I was talking to someone (sorry can't name them for obvious reasons) very important in SWRT and his comments were basically along the line of: here we go again, we have just got the 06 right and now we have to start on the 07. It was more of how he said it rather than what he said that left me with impression that testing on the 07 model hasn't been good at all up to Rally Sweden.

Another team member (less in the know) basically said we just have to get through 07 and wait for the totally new 08 car before we start kicking arse.

For the sake of Subaru and the sport lets hope they have made some huge advancements in Spain.

Cheers

Curry

It's funny that team member thinks "they got the 06 car right" because as a SWRT fan, I thought the 06 car got better but was never right til very end :D Hopefully the team won't get satisfied by finishing behind 2 Ford and 2 Citroen in every rally ;)

[White Sauron]

It's funny that team member thinks "they got the 06 car right" because as a SWRT fan, I thought the 06 car got better but was never right til very end :D Hopefully the team won't get satisfied by finishing behind 2 Ford and 2 Citroen in every rally ;)

2 Citroens yes, but 3-4 Fords!))

[Patwrc]

Ar...
It's just agonizing to see how SWRT is working. Two different stories to think about...

[Finni]

2 Citroens yes, but 3-4 Fords!))

Nah, Petter will beats all Fords and probably also Loeb in Mexico. Mark my words.

[Halvis]

Nah, Petter will beats all Fords and probably also Loeb in Mexico. Mark my words.

Nothing would please me more - but I have strong doubts about that, Petter's comments isn't entirely positive.

[SubaruNorway]

Doesn't look to bad here http://www.vgb.no/20075/