WRC Testing

[HarriK]

My friend took two photos yesterday:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/267995_2197804474799_1537873602_2333020_1684398_n. jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/263985_2197811354971_1537873602_2333028_3340738_n. jpg

[Petris]

Rally Finland 2011 test Sebastien Loeb - Petri Skog Motorsport Photography (http://www.petriskog.com/Rally/2011/Rally-Finland-2011-test/17946231_4BxwS8#1374152452_KDHFXhL)

click slideshow on

[Tomi]

Rally Finland 2011 test Sebastien Loeb - Petri Skog Motorsport Photography (http://www.petriskog.com/Rally/2011/Rally-Finland-2011-test/17946231_4BxwS8#1374152452_KDHFXhL)

click slideshow on

nice pics, it looks that there was a nice relaxed feeling.

[Rallisauna]

Some shots from Sebastien Ogier's test today in Finland:
https://picasaweb.google.com/SPKolsi/SebastienOgierSTestInFinland2011#

I do also have some video material and I will post it only if I got time enough to edit it this weekend.

[Juha_Koo]

My short and (nearly) raw video from Ogier's first test day. :)





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm993MuhK40

[N.O.T]

very nice video....Ogier very smooth over the jump...nice.

[Petris]

Rally Finland 2011 test Sebastien Ogier - Petri Skog Motorsport Photography (http://www.petriskog.com/Rally/2011/Rally-Finland-2011-test-Ogier/17961359_X6zt8J#1375566546_HWmNKxv)

[OldF]

very nice video....Ogier very smooth over the jump...nice.

N.O.T, referring to the “Driving style evolution” thread you can also see on this video that the front wheels are pointing straight, no RWD driving style.

[N.O.T]

i was going to point that out as well :) :)

[Hartusvuori]

So, of works teams, is it next week Mini (w/ car that is going to used in Rally Estonia) and then Ford starting next weekend or so?

[Juha_Koo]

So, of works teams, is it next week Mini (w/ car that is going to used in Rally Estonia) and then Ford starting next weekend or so?

Yep. Citroen was early this year.

[Rallisauna]

Ogier has crashed his car today while testing! Both Ogier and Ingrassia are ok, but they can't continue testing anymore.

Mtv3 has some more information:
Raju ulosajo päätti Ogierin Suomen-testit - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/2011/07/1358532/raju-ulosajo-paatti-ogierin-suomen-testit)

[Hartusvuori]

Ogier has crashed his car today while testing! Both Ogier and Ingrassia are ok, but they can't continue testing anymore.

Mtv3 has some more information:
Raju ulosajo päätti Ogierin Suomen-testit - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/2011/07/1358532/raju-ulosajo-paatti-ogierin-suomen-testit)

Better to test crashing at tests than at races. Glad they're both okey.

[Juha_Koo]

Ogier has crashed his car today while testing! Both Ogier and Ingrassia are ok, but they can't continue testing anymore.

Incredible!

[N.O.T]

he found his limits for the rally then i guess....

[Juha_Koo]

Photo and video (I don't know is it available abroad):

Ogierille Suomen-testeissä raju ulosajo – katso video! - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/2011/07/1358532/ogierille-suomen-testeissa-raju-ulosajo---katso-video)

[N.O.T]

not available in Greece...probably we did not pay the bill...

[Barreis]

Photo and video (I don't know is it available abroad):

Ogierille Suomen-testeissä raju ulosajo – katso video! - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/2011/07/1358532/ogierille-suomen-testeissa-raju-ulosajo---katso-video)

Thanks.

[Miika]

Youtube link if the Finnish one doesn´t work:

xyiP6tUxut8

[darkstar]

here it´s available for everyone: YouTube - ‪Sebastien Ogier rolls Citroen DS3 - WRC Rally Finland test 2011‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyiP6tUxut8)

[dimviii]

Thanks Miika!

[HarriK]

I was also watching Ogier's test and shoot some photos in that corner when he crash his car.
It was his second run in that road (they changed test road just before that)
Ogier was nearly off road in first run in that same place. In second run he had no other chance than to pull the handbrake and rest is history...
We drove the test stage and his lines were same in other 2-3 corners. A lot of loose gravel and he had been a little bit off the road in two places. Nearly managed to clear one bridge wooden rail.

Citroen Team started to repair car (one broken damper and windscreen) and i think they maybe try to continue test. Better to test, because car wasn't good in loose gravel!!

edit: car started to fire after it was turned back on wheels. Team emptied one carbon dioxide fire extinguisher to the engine room. Oils were leaking propably on the top of the turbohttp://www.sanakirja.org/search.php?id=216018&l2=17

[N.O.T]

Youtube link if the Finnish one doesn´t work:

xyiP6tUxut8

reminded me of those group F accidents....

[JRodrigues]

Ooooooioioioioioioioiiiiii

[HarriK]

http://harrinkuvat.1g.fi/kuvat/Rallikuvat/2011/NORF_tests/Ogier_Kuhmoinen/

some photos...

[Barreis]

Really nice photos.

[Juha_Koo]

It's probably the best documented WRC testing off ever. Welcome to Finland! :)

[Barreis]

Nice roads also!

[N.O.T]

It's probably the best documented WRC testing off ever. Welcome to Finland! :)

i think panizzis off in testing with a peugeot 206 back in 99 is the best ever....

YouTube - ‪rally accident peugeot 206 wrc de gilles panizzi‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BzwQPkn4sM)

[HarriK]

I just heard that Meeke rolled his Mini in NesteRally tests in Finland.
Note....wait to hear more...

edit: sorry, wrong info send ...

[Juha_Koo]

I'm right now at Mini's test. Earlier Meeke had small moment, I heard Paul Nagle speaking with engineer, they had had rear in the ditch but it had came out.

Now the car is broken, it's some mechanical failure. Tests paused.

[HarriK]

Ok, thanks for correct info!

[Juha_Koo]

Actually correction... Meeke went off, left rear hit a big stone, then spin and off to the ditch. Unclear whether the tests can continue. Damn...

[HarriK]

Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fi&u=http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/2011/07/1358858/minin-rallitesteissa-rysahti-heti&ei=b8IaTsCDGsbDtAbt64zFDw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/2011/07/1358858/minin-rallitesteissa-rysahti-heti%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D610%2 6prmd%3Divns)

[Rallyper]

was Meeke´s off on the Sirkkamäki stage or nearby?

[noel157]

Juha, car is being repaired and testing should start again this afternoon or in the morning so don't go too far. :)

[Juha_Koo]

Juha, car is being repaired and testing should start again this afternoon or in the morning so don't go too far. :)

Yeah, better luck tomorrow. Still major repairs being done after about four hours since the crash. I'm heading home, 2,5 hour drive... I saw three passes. :D

This is rallying. :)

[Tinke1979]

Really hope that they manage to repair Meekes car for the Rally Estonia :)

[6789]

Really hope that they manage to repair Meekes car for the Rally Estonia :)

Yeah should be a good battle with older Focus WRC's there and s2000's

[Miika]

http://static.iltalehti.fi/ralli/etumeeke1107SP_ri.gif

[Barreis]

That's Meeke's signature.

[vkangas]

Juha_Koo, were you the guy who was interviewed by MTV3 couple of days ago at tests? If not, it's a nice coincidence... ;)

[Juha_Koo]

Juha_Koo, were you the guy who was interviewed by MTV3 couple of days ago at tests? If not, it's a nice coincidence... ;)

Haha, yes I am. :)

I was just normally spectating when Anette started talking to me and we discussed for few minutes and then she suddenly said "You mind if we do interview?" How could I decline? It's funny feeling to see own face on TV just after Loeb's. :D

[Tinke1979]

haha.. They dont use the whole interview with me on MTV3 :D only that last comment about Loebs testing... :D

[Rallyper]

Photo and video (I don't know is it available abroad):

Ogierille Suomen-testeissä raju ulosajo – katso video! - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/2011/07/1358532/ogierille-suomen-testeissa-raju-ulosajo---katso-video)

No, it´s not. how to look at it?

[OldF]

No, it´s not. how to look at it?

Have a look at post 1255 in this thread.

[dimviii]

Any other photos-videos from Meekes exit?

[HarriK]

Now there is also some video at mtv3 katsomo. (maybe not working abroad)
Minin rallitesteissä rysähti heti - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/2011/07/1358858/minin-rallitesteissa-rysahti-heti)

Interviewer says: "it was not allowed to media visit in forest while car was repaired by mechanicans until it was in towing condition".

[Rallyper]

Have a look at post 1255 in this thread.

I wasn´t clear enough. I meant the MTV coverage. How to be able to look at the MTV coverage abroad Finland.

[dimviii]

Now there is also some video at mtv3 katsomo. (maybe not working abroad)
Minin rallitesteissä rysähti heti - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/2011/07/1358858/minin-rallitesteissa-rysahti-heti)

Interviewer says: "it was not allowed to media visit in forest while car was repaired by mechanicans until it was in towing condition".

not working damn..

[HarriK]

not working damn..

i'm quite an sure Miika will do some youtube coverage soon ;)

[traxx]

i'm quite an sure Miika will do some youtube coverage soon ;)

For sure ! :)

[OldF]

I wasn´t clear enough. I meant the MTV coverage. How to be able to look at the MTV coverage abroad Finland.

Sorry, I don't have an answer for that.

[wildsir]

Must have been OK, Meekes twitter says he done another 170km today.

[Juha_Koo]

Mini tested today with Sordo (and Meeke a bit). Day 2 proved successful, even though the weather was very rainy at times. Nice jumps. :)

Nonetheless, here is my short video: VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4_l6vfIZC4)
And small photo gallery: PHOTOS (http://juhake.kapsi.fi/mini_fin_test/album/)

I have to say, I was very very surprised by Mini... Especially the suspension, it looked absolutely fabulous! Sordo commented it being even better than C4 on landings. Really, they have progressed a lot with the suspension. Engine seems to lack some power but otherwise it is starting look like a very nice package. I fell in love with it! ;)

[cali]

Good job Juha! I wish Mini could succeed in WRC, because the whole series needs it.

[Miika]

Also here´s some more footage of today´s Mini test and Dani´s interview:
YouTube - ‪Dani Sordo testing Mini Countryman WRC in Finland (Korpilahti July 12th 2011)‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OE1RnKjQOo)

[dimviii]

Nice photos Juha!! the rear spoiler is new?

[Miika]

I have to say, I was very very surprised by Mini... Especially the suspension, it looked absolutely fabulous!

A couple of wicked jumps there, of course the landing is always certain but once Meeke gets that thing going the landing could happen either on the road or into a lake.. A great shame that Ouninpohja isn´t still in the route because a red Mini and Ouninpohja, you know.

[noel157]

Meeke doing what he does best:

YouTube - ‪Rally Finland 2011 Tests @ Korpilahti - Kris Meeke Mini WRC‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar0TDLT2dgw)

[N.O.T]

damn crazy.....

[papar007]

Nice photos Juha!! the rear spoiler is new?

Don't think sow!
YouTube - ‪mini wrc 2011‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DjxP_tFqPI&feature=related)

[Petris]

Daniel Sordo (http://www.petriskog.com/Rally/2011/Rally-Finland-2011-test-Mini/18025130_T56ZSR#1381673133_9pvNWwX)

[JTGANG]

Meeke doing what he does best:

YouTube - ‪Rally Finland 2011 Tests @ Korpilahti - Kris Meeke Mini WRC‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar0TDLT2dgw)

Is it my view or the Mini after all the jumps is landing in a strange way with the rear side always ????

[Barreis]

Daniel Sordo (http://www.petriskog.com/Rally/2011/Rally-Finland-2011-test-Mini/18025130_T56ZSR#1381673133_9pvNWwX)

Nice photos.

[wildsir]

Meeke doing what he does best:&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;</p></p>




&lt;p&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;</p></p>




&lt;p&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar0TDLT2dgw&amp;quot; target=&amp;quot;_blank&amp;quot;&amp;gt;YouTube - &amp;amp;amp;#x202a;Rally Finland 2011 Tests @ Korpilahti - Kris Meeke Mini WRC&amp;amp;amp;#x202c;&amp;amp;amp;rlm;&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;</p>


&lt;p&gt;that is crazy! meeke nearly running out of road @ 2m21s road and never lifted the throttle..&lt;/p&gt;</p>


&lt;p&gt;the damping looks superb. the rear wing looks very useful, maybe mini can surprise in finland.&lt;/p&gt;</p>

[makinen_fan]

Is it my view or the Mini after all the jumps is landing in a strange way with the rear side always ????

yes i noticed that too, much like the Audi S1. surely spectacular to look, but do they loose time or confidense when jumping like this. they may need to adjust the way the drive over the jumps to avoid something nasty to happen

[dimviii]

Don't think sow!
YouTube - &#x202a;mini wrc 2011&#x202c;&rlm; (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DjxP_tFqPI&feature=related)

Look again,its totaly different.

[mm1]

Look again,its totaly different.

I think this one was the adapted Subaru wing from S14, they tested in the beginning with that one.

[vkangas]

Landing after jumps definately looking not so good, but driving style has also an enormous effect on that so can't fully blame car for that.

[JRodrigues]

In the first tests, the Mini was very good in the jumps... And remember that in Finland the jumps aren't like in other places.

[dimviii]

Landing after jumps definately looking not so good, but driving style has also an enormous effect on that so can't fully blame car for that.
+1 i dont see it ok too.Car seems to change direction after the landing due to less suspension stroke?Definetely its not so good like the ds3/fiesta landings.

[Juha_Koo]

I don't quite understand you all... What's the problem in Mini's jumping? Both crests were bit special, they had a shape which throws the car. Yes, it lifts the front a little bit but what's the problem with that? Latest Focus did exactly the same and it was the fastest car in Finland. The smoothness of the landing was very good, especially on that corner jump where they flew sideways. It came down in a very predictable way every single time and nothing uncertain in it, always glued immediately to the road and continued.

[logic]

Suspension travel was once a big thing , now damper control has taken over , the more accurate you can control the damper the better .

[AMSS]

I don't quite understand you all... What's the problem in Mini's jumping? Both crests were bit special, they had a shape which throws the car. Yes, it lifts the front a little bit but what's the problem with that? Latest Focus did exactly the same and it was the fastest car in Finland. The smoothness of the landing was very good, especially on that corner jump where they flew sideways. It came down in a very predictable way every single time 2and nothing uncertain in it, always glued immediately to the road and continued.

I`ll have to agree with the others, seems as like the car is seeking a bit after the landings also on one video where there was a small bump in the road in a corner there was clear chassis movement that`s definately disturbing IMO and the landings are fine if we were 10-15years back in time. Now compared to the DS3 and Fiesta they seem to be landing like a cat whereas the Mini "crashes" down but mainting driveability however which at the end of the day is the most important thing.
We`ll better not to judge anything before finally seeing them live in a couple of weeks. Report back than...

[noel157]

I don't quite understand you all... What's the problem in Mini's jumping? Both crests were bit special, they had a shape which throws the car. Yes, it lifts the front a little bit but what's the problem with that? Latest Focus did exactly the same and it was the fastest car in Finland. The smoothness of the landing was very good, especially on that corner jump where they flew sideways. It came down in a very predictable way every single time and nothing uncertain in it, always glued immediately to the road and continued.

Juha, +100. Remember this -"the car is too ugly to be competitive", "the car is too tall", "suspension travel is too short", "Prodrive made a mess with the Subaru so same will happen with Mini" yada, yada, yada....
The cars is good, the team is good and the drivers are good.

[Rallyper]

Juha, +100. Remember this -"the car is too ugly to be competitive", "the car is too tall", "suspension travel is too short", "Prodrive made a mess with the Subaru so same will happen with Mini" yada, yada, yada....
The cars is good, the team is good and the drivers are good.

+1

[Mintexmemory]

+1

+2

[julkki]

But just relaying to expectations I was expecting very nervous car on the jumps and crests. I wasn't expecting some DS3/Fiesta killer but a car that could manage to lose maybe only 0.5 sec/km to Ford/Citroen. I was also at the test and gotta say that the 0,5sec/km difference to top teams isn't impossible. The car really looks stable. It doesn't have same kind of range on suspension like DS3/Fiesta but it's surprisingly good. The engine is lacking also some power to top teams also but the weather in the test was wet and heavy so the difference is hard to judge.

[papar007]

Look again,its totaly different.

You're right!

[Miika]

Kimi´s Finland test in the news today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTOmOedagLU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ZTsw0W5u0

Kimi would be happy if they could just finish the rally, but co-driver says that 6th place would be a realistic dream result for them.

And about next year, Kimi still says that all options, F1 included, are still available and that he could go anywhere he likes, but I suspect he is saying that just to keep the buzz going and to sell a few more of his signature caps. But he also said somewhere that doing rally and Nascar at the same time is tiring so maybe he will focus on something next year, who knows.

[N.O.T]

a realistic solution for mr icecube

UNEMPLOYMENT PENSION (http://www.tyj.fi/default.asp?id=282)

[JRodrigues]

But that's getting Finland to the same situation as Greece.. Too much unemployment pensioners....

[Tomi]

But that's getting Finland to the same situation as Greece.. Too much unemployment pensioners....

But no dead who get pension sofar, lol.

[Rallisauna]

Altought the temperature reached +25 degrees today in Central Finland, the small gravel road in Luhanka was covered with thick ice layer - The Iceman had arrived:
https://picasaweb.google.com/SPKolsi/KimiRaikkonenTestingInFinland2011

[Barreis]

Altought the temperature reached +25 degrees today in Central Finland, the small gravel road in Luhanka was covered with thick ice layer - The Iceman had arrived:
https://picasaweb.google.com/SPKolsi/KimiRaikkonenTestingInFinland2011

White colour on the car - great.

[wildsir]

sponsors don't pay to sponsor tests, so white is ok

[N.O.T]

what sponsors ??

[wildsir]

Ok, in the case if kimi, he can run in pink if he wants

[HarriK]

JML and Ford Fiesta WRC first tests in Finland:

http://harrinkuvat.1g.fi/kuvat/Rallikuvat/2011/NORF_tests/JML_Kavala/?action=slideshow (http://harrinkuvat.1g.fi/kuvat/Rallikuvat/2011/NORF_tests/JML_Kavala/)

[Barreis]

Now it's his turn to go off.

[Juha_Koo]

Ford started tests today. Jari-Matti for two days and then Mikko takes over for two days.

Here are

My photos: PHOTOS (http://juhake.kapsi.fi/jml11_day1/album/)

My video: VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfIcq0QByxU)

[Tomi]

JML and Ford Fiesta WRC first tests in Finland:

JML_Kavala (http://harrinkuvat.1g.fi/kuvat/Rallikuvat/2011/NORF_tests/JML_Kavala/?action=slideshow)

Wonder how they have got good ol' Piironen there :)

[Daniel]

Mini tested today with Sordo (and Meeke a bit). Day 2 proved successful, even though the weather was very rainy at times. Nice jumps. :)

Nonetheless, here is my short video: VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4_l6vfIZC4)
And small photo gallery: PHOTOS (http://juhake.kapsi.fi/mini_fin_test/album/)

I have to say, I was very very surprised by Mini... Especially the suspension, it looked absolutely fabulous! Sordo commented it being even better than C4 on landings. Really, they have progressed a lot with the suspension. Engine seems to lack some power but otherwise it is starting look like a very nice package. I fell in love with it! ;)
Hmmm I think Ford are ****ed. The way that car flies reminds me of watching the 206 WRC testing in Australia and realising just how good it was going to be.

[Rallyper]

So they were testing at NORF Kavala stage in 2010?

[Daniel]

I don't quite understand you all... What's the problem in Mini's jumping? Both crests were bit special, they had a shape which throws the car. Yes, it lifts the front a little bit but what's the problem with that? Latest Focus did exactly the same and it was the fastest car in Finland. The smoothness of the landing was very good, especially on that corner jump where they flew sideways. It came down in a very predictable way every single time and nothing uncertain in it, always glued immediately to the road and continued.

I agree, I think the Mini looks a very good jumper.

[Steve Boyd]

I agree, I think the Mini looks a very good jumper.
I thought the Mini was a skirt . . . . . though I've seen some Mini dresses that weren't much bigger than a jumper!
(Sorry - couldn't resist!)

[janvanvurpa]

I thought the Mini was a skirt . . . . . though I've seen some Mini dresses that weren't much bigger than a jumper!
(Sorry - couldn't resist!)

Pics or ban. 8)

[Fly]

Ford wanted Neuville to test the Fiesta at the end of June but PSA (Quesnel?) refused. Good news (seat at Citroen within 2 years) or bad news (missed opportunity)???

[N.O.T]

probably nothing of the two...

[tfp]

Now it's his turn to go off.

And follow Ogier into the hedge.

[N.O.T]

I think wishing for someone to crash should be banable in a motorsport forum...

[OldF]

JML NORF test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUTHWmfZ7mY

[darkstar]

Ford wanted Neuville to test the Fiesta at the end of June but PSA (Quesnel?) refused. Good news (seat at Citroen within 2 years) or bad news (missed opportunity)???

thats a good question. if loeb might go to vw or retire from rallyeing next time he might get a chance from citroen, but will be always 2nd driver behind ogier then.(like duval was with loeb). if he could show up with the ford a bit...who know´s, maybe they would kick out hirvonen then. but if i was vw i also would have an eye on him, in my opinion he´s pretty mutch the biggest talent at the moment.

[wwbroe]

thats a good question. if loeb might go to vw or retire from rallyeing next time he might get a chance from citroen, but will be always 2nd driver behind ogier then.(like duval was with loeb). if he could show up with the ford a bit...who know´s, maybe they would kick out hirvonen then. but if i was vw i also would have an eye on him, in my opinion he´s pretty mutch the biggest talent at the moment.

Well, who says they don't have an eye on him allready. At least that is what i was told some weeks ago. I don't know for sure that there is truth in it, let's wait and see. :D

[tfp]

I think wishing for someone to crash should be banable in a motorsport forum...

:up: Fair play, I take back my last comment.

[OldF]

It’s the only way to know who’s the fastest.

[Juha_Koo]

Sorry, took a little longer today. Long day, about eleven hours on the move due to tests, walking several kilometres back and forth. But still, very nice day. :)

Here's my video of JML's second test day.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWTIxREKX-M

[pete c]

mmm nice video, car lands off the jumps so nicely and Jarri Mattti looked fast, hope luck runs his way in Finland

[Miika]

Nice action there, will be interesting to see how differently the three cars behave jumping off the same jumps and bumps in the competition.

[Donney]

Nice video, is it me or that Fiesta is all the time hitting the rev limiter?

[AMSS]

Video of Tommi Mäkinen Racing testing new R4, at least now everybody must agree that there`s quit a lot of work to do with the supension...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAdferADsC4&feature=player_embedded#at=172

[tfp]

Tommi's impreza is looking good there! Kaj Lindstrom will be a busy man if tommi is to compete :D

[Juha_Koo]

Mikko started his tests today. In the morning there was torrential rain, thunderstorm just above the area. Totally incredible.

Unfortunately no video this time, some mysterious malfunction in the camcorder. But some photos -> HERE (http://juhake.kapsi.fi/mikko_day1/album/)

[focus206]

Mikko started his tests today. In the morning there was torrential rain, thunderstorm just above the area. Totally incredible.

Unfortunately no video this time, some mysterious malfunction in the camcorder. But some photos -> HERE (http://juhake.kapsi.fi/mikko_day1/album/)
Intersting... when was the last time we had pretty much rain at Rally Finland?

[Tinke1979]

Mikko started his tests today. In the morning there was torrential rain, thunderstorm just above the area. Totally incredible.

Unfortunately no video this time, some mysterious malfunction in the camcorder. But some photos -> HERE (http://juhake.kapsi.fi/mikko_day1/album/)


Nice pics! Hopefully your camcorder works on NORF.. Maybe it doesn´t like the rain like one of my old camcorders. Every time when it rains a little the cam went off..

[Miika]

"This is no F1" says Mikko and pushes on in the torrential rain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3RyEB0twrA

[HarriK]

Incar films from JML test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuazeQLXNuc&feature=channel_video_title

[HarriK]

Incar film from JML test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuazeQLXNuc&feature=channel_video_title

[Juha_Koo]

Well, camcorder did work yesterday evening after fixes, but as soon as I got to Mikko's test today, it failed again. Sh*t happens.

Some photos of Mikko testing for the second day in Ouninpohja -> HERE (http://juhake.kapsi.fi/mikko_day2/album/)

Mikko was very nice, attacking hard. It's always a pleasure to see him on a big road. What I heard and saw, little moments too... ;)

[N.O.T]

Incar film from JML test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuazeQLXNuc&feature=channel_video_title

why they do not use such incar cameras for the event as well ????

[MartijnS]

Yeah quite nice :)

[AMSS]

Great test video with Hirvonen and the Fiasco sorry Fiesta ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJP2Btcvjto&feature=player_embedded

[rage82]

why they do not use such incar cameras for the event as well ????

I guess that the cameras used for the tests are M-sport cameras, and for the event North One decide's where to put their cameras and how to film the rally.

[rage82]

why they do not use such incar cameras for the event as well ????

I guess that the cameras used for the tests are M-sport cameras, and for the event North One decide's where to put their cameras and how to film the rally.

[makinen_fan]

I hope that North One understands that their in car footage is totally s*** and barely watchable. they have to do something with that, and i am sure they have options, but it seems that North One is ran by people that do not understand what is spectacular and not. certainly a camera looking at loeb's helmet and eyes is not, as was the case in Acropolis rally footage

[donlorean]

I guess that the cameras used for the tests are M-sport cameras, and for the event North One decide's where to put their cameras and how to film the rally.

Those cameras that used in Mikko's film was from that guy who made and upload that video... "Morfn" is a guy behind Mikko's, JM's, Garde's, Marcus, Tommi's, etc. website. More information from here:

Plopcrew Productions - Digitaalisen median tuotantostudio - www.plopcrew.net (http://www.plopcrew.net/)

[Juha_Koo]

Helmet cams are very difficult to use in actual event, because the capacity is limited and it would be the crew which would take care of operating them. I quite frankly don't see it as a crew's job. They are there to compete, not to make outstanding multimedia. :) Also what I've seen, helmets take quite a pounding, camera angles won't last for long.

Onboards have improved a lot this year. Except Sweden, all lousy incar angles (e.g what C4 had) have disappeared. I really really like the angle which have been used in Mikko's car this year (this one: http://juhake.kapsi.fi/motorsport/fiesta_onboard_angle_mexico.png ) which has been possible because of the new safety seats. The camera is mounted on the seat's "ear". Only thing that I don't like is the "bumper cam", it's too low, although it gives a nice sensation of speed, it's easily covered with dirt and you can't see the road's profile well. Also from that angle, you can't see the car itself, so it's harder to draw any conclusions.

[N.O.T]

i do not like the zoomed cameras at all i prefer wide angle ones so i can see the whole effort the driver puts...especially those cams that show part of the footwork as well..... the incar zoomed cameras fail to capture the intesity of the driving....a thing that helmet cams manage perfectly. Being an on board addict (i have 1.128 onboard rally videos from various events) i think the onboard cameras used by the WRC are very very boring. The posibilities are almost endless yet all we get is the same hood/bumper and the cross section of the rollgae cameras....its a pity and a waste.

here is an example of some nice incar work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DKEiAJN1P8 (exhibition event)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OajlZJiYt3M (hillclimb event)


also i have seen ogier testing the citroen with an onboard camera mounted on a tripod on the roof of the car....those footage would be amazing and i think it can be used in tarmac events in stages without many trees.

[HarriK]

The camera which "Morfn" uses is this:
Printsport Racing webshop (http://www.printsport.fi/kauppa/product_info.php?cPath=19_63&products_id=7752)

new updated camera with 172degree angle lens.

Offtopic: some Finnish team rally action webcam: PrintSport Racing - Menestyksekäs moottoriurheilun erikoisyritys - PrintSport.fi (http://www.printsport.fi/webcam.php) (I'm also there :D )

[Petris]

Mattias Therman Mini WRC Rally Finland 2011 test video (http://www.youtube.com/user/TeamTherminator)

Mattias Therman Mini WRC Rally Finland 2011 test pictures (http://www.petriskog.com/Rally/2011/Rally-Finland-2011-Therman/18229955_ZRFQFK#1401728770_DxrJD8h)

http://www.teamtherminator.fi/eng (http://www.teamtherminator.fi/)

[makinen_fan]

i do not like the zoomed cameras at all i prefer wide angle ones so i can see the whole effort the driver puts...especially those cams that show part of the footwork as well..... the incar zoomed cameras fail to capture the intesity of the driving....a thing that helmet cams manage perfectly. Being an on board addict (i have 1.128 onboard rally videos from various events) i think the onboard cameras used by the WRC are very very boring. The posibilities are almost endless yet all we get is the same hood/bumper and the cross section of the rollgae cameras....its a pity and a waste.

here is an example of some nice incar work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DKEiAJN1P8 (exhibition event)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OajlZJiYt3M (hillclimb event)


also i have seen ogier testing the citroen with an onboard camera mounted on a tripod on the roof of the car....those footage would be amazing and i think it can be used in tarmac events in stages without many trees.

nice videos there! that's how onboards should be and not like you said, the very zoomed in images the do these years. North One promised they will experiment with new in car shots, but sadly nothing new

[makinen_fan]

i do not like the zoomed cameras at all i prefer wide angle ones so i can see the whole effort the driver puts...especially those cams that show part of the footwork as well..... the incar zoomed cameras fail to capture the intesity of the driving....a thing that helmet cams manage perfectly. Being an on board addict (i have 1.128 onboard rally videos from various events) i think the onboard cameras used by the WRC are very very boring. The posibilities are almost endless yet all we get is the same hood/bumper and the cross section of the rollgae cameras....its a pity and a waste.

here is an example of some nice incar work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DKEiAJN1P8 (exhibition event)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OajlZJiYt3M (hillclimb event)


also i have seen ogier testing the citroen with an onboard camera mounted on a tripod on the roof of the car....those footage would be amazing and i think it can be used in tarmac events in stages without many trees.

nice videos there! that's how onboards should be and not like you said, the very zoomed in images the do these years. North One promised they will experiment with new in car shots, but sadly nothing new

[rage82]

Those cameras that used in Mikko's film was from that guy who made and upload that video... "Morfn" is a guy behind Mikko's, JM's, Garde's, Marcus, Tommi's, etc. website. More information from here:

Plopcrew Productions - Digitaalisen median tuotantostudio - www.plopcrew.net (http://www.plopcrew.net/)

Thanks for the information! My point was that the used cameras are not the officials ones filming the rally event, and that's why they are way more interesting.

[dimviii]

Αmazing video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nOuYNEppmA&feature=feedu

[makinen_fan]

Αmazing video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nOuYNEppmA&feature=feedu

very nice!

[makinen_fan]

the car hits the limiter as soon as it is in the air. i cant remember the previous WRCars to do that? is this smt to do with the engines, or just the that they are revving the engines much higher now?

[darkstar]

i think its because the smaller engines need to be driven on higher rev´s. and you always need high rev´s to have good power, witch the 2 liter engines didnt need.

[Mirek]

Yes, exactly. The optimal rpm are now close to the limiter.

[vkangas]

According to MTV3 Latvala and Hirvonen are learning tarmac driving with some sports car early this week at Ahvenisto race track. The instructor will be former F1 driver Mika Salo.

I checked Ahvenisto's reservation calendar and it seemes that the time is tuesday from 9 am to 3 pm. It would be nice to have some photos, Juha_koo...maybe? ;)

[Barreis]

F1 driver to teach them rally skills?! Kimi is F1 champ and the best is fourth.

[Mirek]

Problem of Kimi isn't in driving skills...

[Barreis]

He doesn't have experience but what can Salo give them to beat Loeb?!

[makinen_fan]

how much does it really help to get time around a track with a pro F1 racer (like salo). ok i can appreciate he can give them clues for chosen lines, breaking points etc, but how relative is driving in a track and in rally stage? or probably they will use this test as a warm up to get in the groove for Germany

[focus206]

He doesn't have experience but what can Salo give them to beat Loeb?!

I don't think they expect to beat Loeb...

[Leon]

Every year a tarmac specialist will be used, every year with the same results......

[darkstar]

anyhow, i´m ecited how latvala´s speed will be like, he improved his tarmac skills a lot at the last couple of tarmac rallye´s.

[Barreis]

Still remember that crying after crash in Germany.

[dimviii]

anyhow, i´m ecited how latvala´s speed will be like, he improved his tarmac skills a lot at the last couple of tarmac rallye´s.

Depents with whom are you going to measure his improvement :D

[Juha_Koo]

According to MTV3 Latvala and Hirvonen are learning tarmac driving with some sports car early this week at Ahvenisto race track. The instructor will be former F1 driver Mika Salo.

I checked Ahvenisto's reservation calendar and it seemes that the time is tuesday from 9 am to 3 pm. It would be nice to have some photos, Juha_koo...maybe? ;)

If only I would live even 100 kilometres closer... Too long drive. And just realized, I don't even have a car at my use. :|

[darkstar]

some pictures of raikkönen testing for rallye germany:

Rallye-MAD.com (http://rallye-mad.com/fotos/category/55-raikkoenen-test-rallye-deutschland)

http://rallye-mad.com/images/phocagallery/2011/raikkoenen_test/kevin_lamberti/thumbs/phoca_thumb_l_comp_IMG_9180.jpg (http://rallye-mad.com/fotos/category/55-raikkoenen-test-rallye-deutschland)

http://rallye-mad.com/images/phocagallery/2011/raikkoenen_test/kevin_lamberti/thumbs/phoca_thumb_l_comp_IMG_9250.jpg (http://rallye-mad.com/fotos/category/55-raikkoenen-test-rallye-deutschland)

[tfp]

Nice see they've changed the stages...

[Andre Oliveira]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4WxINC7TAY

[traxx]

VW tests this week on gravel & tarmac with the skoda but with some Polo parts
VW prépare sa Polo WRC (http://www.worldrallyisfree.com/2011/08/12/vw-prepare-sa-polo-wrc/)

[darkstar]

finally i also made it to this year´s frod test. today was latvala in veldenz, tomorrow is panzerplatte. here´s my video of today:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8127/latvalaveldenz.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWVrBLSMz9I&hd=1)

direkt link: Ford Test Veldenz (Latvala) 2011 [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWVrBLSMz9I&hd=1)

[Juha_Koo]

finally i also made it to this year´s frod test. today was latvala in veldenz, tomorrow is panzerplatte. here´s my video of today:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8127/latvalaveldenz.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWVrBLSMz9I&hd=1)

direkt link: Ford Test Veldenz (Latvala) 2011 [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWVrBLSMz9I&hd=1)

Excellent! :) Feels like I was just yesterday watching PX60 AUW getting some punishment in Finnish tests but it's already over three weeks... Circus goes on!

[darkstar]

so, today latvala tested on the panzerplatte, was quite spectacular i must say! here´s the video of today:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8353/vorschaulatvalatestpanz.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QALFc2wog3U&hd=1)

direkt link: Ford Test Panzerplatte (Latvala) 2011 [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QALFc2wog3U&hd=1)

[Allyc85]

Nice vid of some great driving, can never fault JML's commitment!

[N.O.T]

Great action indeed...

The car looked to move a lot during the panzerplatte stage...but it looks very fast and very agressive driving by latvala. Lets see if the car has a chance against the french.

[Juha_Koo]

Wow... That first slide... :) Looks very aggressive.

[Allar]

So whats Mikko doing?

[userwave]

amazing

[6789]

Wow... That first slide... :) Looks very aggressive.

Is that where Duval crash last year in Germany? Good driving by Latvala

[Allar]

Is that where Duval crash last year in Germany?
No its not.

[6789]

No its not.
Thanks :)

[Bobcat]

Ford's new test car: Photos de fan de Ford WRC | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150338433133799&set=o.157932864220242)

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/285542_10150338433133799_713418798_9599787_1608093 _n.jpg

[Barreis]

That's the best that they can do.

[Plan9]

Anyone gone to the Richard Burns Memorial Rally? How was it and do they have any pics? I am only asking here as Mini is using this rally to test before germany.

[darkstar]

now here´s my last video from the testsessions, hirvonen on the panzerplatte:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg197/scaled.php?server=197&filename=vorschauhirvonentestpan.jpg&res=medium (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_AfqIVWn9s&hd=1)

direkt link: Ford Test Panzerplatte (Hirvonen) 2011 [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_AfqIVWn9s&hd=1)

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Thank you!

Awesome videos!

[hanjob11]

Hi,

here some pictures of todays last testing of the S2000-crews at Neumagen-Dhron

http://www.rally3.de/webspace/karsten/forum/testneumagen2011_1.jpg

http://www.rally3.de/webspace/karsten/forum/testneumagen2011_2.jpg

http://www.rally3.de/webspace/karsten/forum/testneumagen2011_3.jpg

http://www.rally3.de/webspace/karsten/forum/testneumagen2011_4.jpg

http://www.rally3.de/webspace/karsten/forum/testneumagen2011_5.jpg

More at rally3.de (http://www.rally3.de)

Karsten

[hanjob11]

Hi,

here some pictures of yesterdays testing of the S2000-teams for Rallye Deutschland

http://www.rally3.de/webspace/karsten/forum/testneumagen2011_1.jpg

http://www.rally3.de/webspace/karsten/forum/testneumagen2011_2.jpg

http://www.rally3.de/webspace/karsten/forum/testneumagen2011_4.jpg

More pictures at rally3.de - BILDER - Album 1 (http://www.rally3.de/bilder/2011/test-s2000/album-1/)

Karsten

[OldF]

Sordo testing the tyres Dani Sordo shredding the tyres on his new WRC Mini | WRC HD (http://www.wrchd.com/hd-videos/dani-sordo-shredding-the-tyres-on-his-new-wrc-mini/)

[jbmarcus21]

My video about Test Days Ken Block, Mikko Hirvonen and Mads Ostberg (Ford Fiesta Wrc) to prepare Rallye Deutschland
HD version to download here Image (http://bit.ly/pHWpwd)
and
Youtube version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v​=ZGmAr2Sw2lQ

[pete c]

as we have come to expect from you, bloody great vid



cheers
pete

[traxx]

Gravel and Tarmac test with Markko Martin & Tanak for the Ford Team :
http://bit.ly/pitHQG

[wildboar]

(wrong forum)

[Xsara Fan]

Video from Novikov`s pre-France tests (http://www.almrally.ru/news-command/info/6310/)

[traxx]

Novikov tests with DS3 before Catalunia : the only driver who has tested Fiesta & DS3 :

Novikov au volant de la DS3 WRC (http://www.worldrallyisfree.com/2011/10/16/novikov-au-volant-de-la-ds3-wrc/)

[traxx]

Novikov tests with DS3 before Catalunia : the only driver who has tested Fiesta & DS3 :

Novikov au volant de la DS3 WRC (http://www.worldrallyisfree.com/2011/10/16/novikov-au-volant-de-la-ds3-wrc/)

[manta400]

yes and it will be the first DS3 to have a massive crash

[rallyfiend]

yes and it will be the first DS3 to have a massive crash

I think Van Merksteijn the younger has that honour. I'm sure the injured Eddy would testify to that too.

[Juha_Koo]

I think Van Merksteijn the younger has that honour. I'm sure the injured Eddy would testify to that too.

If you're talking about that Greece incident, it wasn't really even a "crash" - more an off I'd say. They just hit a huge stone (very heavy impact under the car) which launched the car off the line and while braking it slid to ditch and stopped.

Is Loeb only one who has rolled DS3? :D EDIT. No, Ogier did it too in Argentina.

[Hartusvuori]

Is Loeb only one who has rolled DS3? :D EDIT. No, Ogier did it too in Argentina.

Ogier did it in pre-event test for Finland, too, if that counts.

[MartijnS]

Van Merksteijn rolled in France too.

[makinen_fan]

According to tweeter Mini is testing in Walter Arena for GB.
'Back on line at Walters Arena Kris and Dani testing for Rally GB' Anyone has photos, video you be nice!

Also Kuipers tesing for GB photos in facebook:
Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150894965315442.756487.865605441&type=3)

[Fly_Half]

According to tweeter Mini is testing in Walter Arena for GB.
'Back on line at Walters Arena Kris and Dani testing for Rally GB' Anyone has photos, video you be nice!

Unlikely there'll be any photos or videos from testing at Walters Arena, the owners of the site do not like photographers there whilst testing is going on, as I've found out in the past!

[markrally]

On this occasion there were at least 3 photographers there, together with BBC Wales Today, S4C's Ralio and a crew filming for the BBC Wales Rally GB highlights programme.......

[Arwel Davies]

I've heard about a few people being " asked " to leave Walters today. It's okay if you have permission to be in there but if you have not then unless you are very sneaky then I think you will be out.

[mousti]

Is that allowed in the WRC that crews are testing on some parts of the actual rally? I see that Kuipers was testing at Sweet Lamb..

[AndyRAC]

On this occasion there were at least 3 photographers there, together with BBC Wales Today, S4C's Ralio and a crew filming for the BBC Wales Rally GB highlights programme.......

Any national media ??

[Viking]

Is that allowed in the WRC that crews are testing on some parts of the actual rally? I see that Kuipers was testing at Sweet Lamb..

Don't think so...

66.2 BANNED TESTING
For Manufacturers or WRC Teams registered in the Championship, testing (as defined in Article 2.19) is
banned:
...
66.2.3 On any road which is or might be used as a special stage of any current Championship rally.
...

[Mirek]

I think that every year someone is testing on Sweet Lamb before Rally GB, isn't that true? For sure I remember Ogier and Prokop with C4 WRC two years back.

[bluuford]

Well, Sweet Lamb is like a special complex and it might be in the list of some manufacturers for that regulation point:
66.1.1 On a testing site proposed by the Manufacturer or WRC Team and notified to the FIA.

[MJW]

Well, Sweet Lamb is like a special complex and it might be in the list of some manufacturers for that regulation point:
66.1.1 On a testing site proposed by the Manufacturer or WRC Team and notified to the FIA.

Sweet Lamb also has several kms of roads that are not on the WRGB stage, similarly the Walters (Arena) Complex. Provided the testing is done in agreement with FIA / Organisers that the testing does not use any of the stage route, even if it is just a cross roads 'going the other way' it can be used for pre event testing.

[JAM]

VW testing today...

[MartijnS]

Bienvenue sur Facebook. Connectez-vous, inscrivez-vous ou découvrez*! (http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10150439589920733&set=a.212426225732.174439.206160890732&type=3&theater)

[JAM]

Were is this?

[Francis44]

Looks very good.

[Blitzerflitzer]

Germany, Veldenz, near Stage ADAC Rallye Deutschland Grafschaft Veldenz, see also VW-Motorsport testet für die Rallye-WM 2012 in den Weinbergen in Veldenz (http://www.wittich.de/index.php?id=73&tx_lw_pi2%5Bheftnr%5D=764&tx_lw_pi2%5Bort%5D=Veldenz&tx_lw_pi2%5Buid%5D=118911212081)

[Sulland]

Bienvenue sur Facebook. Connectez-vous, inscrivez-vous ou découvrez*! (http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10150439589920733&set=a.212426225732.174439.206160890732&type=3&theater)

Is this a Fabia with a Polo body, or is it a complete new car with 1600DI engine, as in WRC ?

[JAM]

Germany, Veldenz, near Stage ADAC Rallye Deutschland Grafschaft Veldenz, see also VW-Motorsport testet für die Rallye-WM 2012 in den Weinbergen in Veldenz (http://www.wittich.de/index.php?id=73&tx_lw_pi2%5Bheftnr%5D=764&tx_lw_pi2%5Bort%5D=Veldenz&tx_lw_pi2%5Buid%5D=118911212081)


Thank you very much

[Blitzerflitzer]

i dont know, maybe this car: Polo R WRC running for the first time (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm/nachrichten/news-detail/d/2011/10/22/der-polo-r-wrc-laeuft/index.html)

[Motorsportfun]

Look at this

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/301313_1880515712363_1825434105_1239152_628398359_ n.jpg

[jbmarcus21]

Carlos Sainz is testing new Polo Wrc News Rallyes 2011 (http://planetemarcus.free.fr/newsrallyes2011.htm)

[noel157]

SPEEDWEEK - VW testet WM-Polo an der Mosel (http://www.speedweek.de/Rallye/news/22656/VW-testet-WM-Polo-an-der-Mosel.html)

[makinen_fan]

MINI WRC Team Rally GB Test Walters Arena - Nov 1 | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.299474723415841.87425.110767835619865&type=1)

[jbmarcus21]

Polo WRC black wheel livery !!!
#WRC Carlos Sainz testing Volkswagen Polo WRC Black wheel liv... on Twitpic (http://twitpic.com/79xauc)

[Andre Oliveira]

VW Polo WRC Test Gallery: rallye-magazin.de (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/galerien/index.html?tx_yag_pi1%5Bcontext311%5D%5BalbumUid%5 D=251&tx_yag_pi1%5Bcontext311%5D%5BgalleryUid%5D=103&tx_yag_pi1%5BitemList311%5D%5BheaderColumns%5D=&tx_yag_pi1%5BitemList311%5D%5Bfilters%5D%5Binterna lFilters%5D=&tx_yag_pi1%5Baction%5D=index&tx_yag_pi1%5Bcontroller%5D=Gallery&cHash=b6214a6c8b3eaa5a41ce20e44bbed405)

[darkstar]

here´s my video of today´s polo test with carlos sainz. the car sounds great i must say!




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZtZExauRgs&hd=1

[Juha_Koo]

Looking excellent. Is it just me or does it look really powerful?

[tfp]

here´s my video of today´s polo test with carlos sainz. the car sounds great i must say!




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZtZExauRgs&hd=1


WOW!!!!

[N.O.T]

Looking excellent. Is it just me or does it look really powerful?

from the outside the car definitely looks as fast as the current WRCs....the agressive style of driving contributes to that in some extend, but i think if VW decided to enter the scene next year the car would be ready for at least a limited amount of rounds...

[makinen_fan]

the engine sounds awsome, very powerful especially after some lift-off. great news for WRC i believe. hope this one is competitive as the Mini this year

[mousti]

Well, Sweet Lamb is like a special complex and it might be in the list of some manufacturers for that regulation point:
66.1.1 On a testing site proposed by the Manufacturer or WRC Team and notified to the FIA.
Aha.. That could be very well be, because it's like u say a special complex that over the whole year gets rallydrivers to test there (great stage with everything in it so perfect for getting a good setup for UK rallies)! Although it's very expensive to test there :p .

[rallye-sport]

Kimi Räikkonen Test Gallery for Wales Rally GB (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-essais-raikkonen-pour-la-grande-bretagne/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/essais-raikkonen-grande-bretagne-2011/imgp0148.jpg

More photos Photos Essais Raikkonen pour la Grande-Bretagne (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-essais-raikkonen-pour-la-grande-bretagne)

[Barreis]

White colour best suits ds3 wrc.

[Micke_VOC]

Ott Tänak Tests DMACK Tyres for Rally GB 2011 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUudY_iifyY&feature=youtu.be)

Ott Tänkak test before Rally B with Dmack tyres

[Robisztar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdz5GioVA1U&feature=youtu.be

[Juha_Koo]

Well this doesn't have anything to do with anything, but does anyone know does Timo Gottschalk speak Spanish or was he just sitting onboard?

[mousti]

Umm English?

[Lundgaard]

Ott Tänak Tests DMACK Tyres for Rally GB 2011 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUudY_iifyY&feature=youtu.be)

Ott Tänkak test before Rally B with Dmack tyres

Why is Tanak going to drive with DMACK tyres? That is a shame for GB. Then we can't measure him against the best properly. Damn.

[Juha_Koo]

Umm English?

Yeah, well, somehow funny to think Sainz using English pacenotes. :D But ofcourse most likely scenario.

Last year Mikko did some testing with Scott Martin and they used English notes á la Colin McRae Rally. :)

[focus206]

Why is Tanak going to drive with DMACK tyres? That is a shame for GB. Then we can't measure him against the best properly. Damn.

I agree, I was looking forward to this rally to see Ott competing with the big guys, but with DMack :( ...

[Jeppe]

Why is Tanak going to drive with DMACK tyres? That is a shame for GB. Then we can't measure him against the best properly. Damn.

Well... Let´s put it this way. It´s quite obvious that Ott Tanak would not drive Fiesta WRC in WRGB without DMACK tyres...

[gravelman]

Well... Let´s put it this way. It´s quite obvious that Ott Tanak would not drive Fiesta WRC in WRGB without DMACK tyres...

Is it just a conspiracy theory of mine but ist it possible that by having Ott on DMacks they can to an extent artificially control his speed, ie. not make some of the guys look poor in comparison to him??

[adr17]

Is it just a conspiracy theory of mine but ist it possible that by having Ott on DMacks they can to an extent artificially control his speed, ie. not make some of the guys look poor in comparison to him??

i cant believe the people on this forum , everything is to do with a conspiracy . its because dmack are paying for the drive so they can have a talented driver against other top drivers on michelin end of story , no secret pack to make other drivers look good or bad

[Micke_VOC]

Is it just a conspiracy theory of mine but ist it possible that by having Ott on DMacks they can to an extent artificially control his speed, ie. not make some of the guys look poor in comparison to him??

Maybe this gonna be the breakthrough for Dmack. They have a new compound and you never know how good its is.

[mousti]

Yeah, well, somehow funny to think Sainz using English pacenotes. :D But ofcourse most likely scenario.

Last year Mikko did some testing with Scott Martin and they used English notes á la Colin McRae Rally. :)
It was just a test so it doesn't need to be all perfect between co and pilot. And Timo is working for VW so that was the easiest way to have a co for Sainz for this tests. I think Sainz drove the first Dakar's for VW in French because of Perin? And KKK wasn't he mostly driving with English notes ? On the top level u need to know a bit your languages :D

[mousti]

i cant believe the people on this forum , everything is to do with a conspiracy . its because dmack are paying for the drive so they can have a talented driver against other top drivers on michelin end of story , no secret pack to make other drivers look good or bad
True to that, and if he beats Matty Wilson even with this (and I think he will anyways those tires can't be so bad and with being the second official brand next year they need to have tires on a good level) than Matty will be even more ridiculed.

[Motorsportfun]

Ott Tänak Tests DMACK Tyres for Rally GB 2011 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUudY_iifyY&feature=youtu.be)

Ott Tänkak test before Rally B with Dmack tyres

Just hope that will continue in 2012, maybe with a DMack-funded programme in the extra-SWRC events...

[Fly_Half]

Alot of testing going on near to me this week. Dani Oliveira in the Mini WRC yesterday and apparently Novikov tomorrow and Block on Sunday.

[jonboy99]

where about are they testing? as i am from brecon.

[adr17]

novikov isnt testing it just block tomorrow at walters and ostberg

[Fly_Half]

novikov isnt testing it just block tomorrow at walters and ostberg

Apparently Novikov was there today, as well as Ostberg and Block..

[adr17]

Apparently Novikov was there today, as well as Ostberg and Block..

well his car is still in cumbria and he def wouldnt be driving ostbergs as mads owns it and doubt he be in blocks car either he may be there but not driving

[Barreis]

How much fiestas are sold until today?

[adr17]

[quote="Barreis"]How much fiestas are sold until today?[/QUOTE

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[traxx]

Any news of citroen tests this week-end ?

[Barreis]

Loeb pre-rally GB 2011 Test - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0_yT8zcsgc&feature=player_embedded)

[dimviii]

Ogier
Ogier pre-rally GB 2011 Test - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysz1jUy8YA8&feature=related)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW7DdZ-7sBE&feature=related

Loeb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5YJ_nfKmx8&feature=related

[Allyc85]

Block testing for GB

WRC Wales GB 2011 - Ken Block Testing [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwAQh7azSJw&feature=share)

[Bobcat]

Latvala testing... Rally Mud | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.311097485570445.91709.157932864220242&type=3)

[Juha_Koo]

Latvala testing... Rally Mud | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.311097485570445.91709.157932864220242&type=3)

Hmmm, I wonder if that really was a test session... No sign of Miikka and driven with PX60 AWP mainly used by Khalid - maybe that was a PR day...

[traxx]

That was a PR day in october

[Andre Oliveira]

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/320859_10150479223548083_52634073082_10834285_1339 718616_n.jpg



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi8p4xlfEVU&feature=youtu.be

Luca Pedersoli DS3? Only to Motor Show Bologna or to substitute C4?


http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2011/ostatni/lanterna/kg_a_161_pedersoli_1.jpg

[EuroTroll]

Good-looking car.

[Andre Oliveira]

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/301368_311501555530960_138426449505139_1550164_203 1858157_n.jpg

Pedersoli test pics (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.310340212313761.96117.138426449505139&type=1)

[Plan9]

Will he take this into WRC events?

[focus206]

Will he take this into WRC events?

I heard a interview of him, he said that in December his program for 2012 will be clear, so nothing decided yet.