WRC Testing

[TypeR]

Surprised that Toyota is testing their rally2 in Estonia on TARMAC..

[trykmann]

Surprised that Toyota is testing their rally2 in Estonia on TARMAC..

Sounds interesting. Where did you get this information?

[TypeR]

Sounds interesting. Where did you get this information?
https://ralli.ee/video-toyota-on-hetkel-eestis-otepaal-oma-uuti-ralliautot-testimas/

and friend said that there are more videos on Estonian rally group in fb

[EstWRC]

Hyundai for CER

https://youtu.be/oeEj_fTSuVU?si=1Rc757kIIoaccEq-

[EstWRC]

Kalle

https://youtu.be/VOut_LBTeCU?feature=shared

[EstWRC]

Kalle

https://youtu.be/b9JLZ35ATq4?si=cMTf0Ie1QR1sIpij

[Mirek]

Hyundai for CER

https://youtu.be/oeEj_fTSuVU?si=1Rc757kIIoaccEq-

SS Malonty, Rallye Český Krumlov. Great stage but IMO somewhat bumpier than majority of the CER millage.

[Mirek]

Kalle

https://youtu.be/VOut_LBTeCU?feature=shared

SS Čečelovice, Rally Pačejov. IMO very well selected stage. Btw. they even placed the service on a Měčichov village square in front of a local pub where there is normally a crowded spectator area - to make it a show already during testing I guess.

[Tauri_J]

Surprised that Toyota is testing their rally2 in Estonia on TARMAC..
Why its interesting? Its like we only have gravel roads or what :D

[EstWRC]

Katsuta

https://youtu.be/gaoau8PIEvY?si=dAIpnyRYErEqno8X

[Mirek]

Greensmith leading Rally Vsetín (Czech rallysprint championship) after the first loop ahead of Adam Březík.
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/81093-rentor-partr-rally-vsetin-2023/

[EstWRC]

Katsuta

https://youtu.be/P9windHDRv8?si=SFoNhHcT7ytpB7te

[Indreksi]

https://ralli.ee/video-toyota-on-hetkel-eestis-otepaal-oma-uuti-ralliautot-testimas/

and friend said that there are more videos on Estonian rally group in fb

More images and videos: https://ralli.ee/toyota-uut-ralliautot-testis-eestis-ullatav-rallisoitja-pildid-ja-videod/

[EstWRC]

Msport testing today in Czech Republic

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231016/d12e60b06221d2d4da06d0c9dd280b2d.jpg

[EstWRC]

Loubet today

https://x.com/rallyovisrdcari/status/1713869249591001338?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[CeskyOndra]

Nono, look at the Loubet's Instagram, he is reposting footage of test from fans

[EstWRC]

Yeah. Seems the other source was wrong

[EstWRC]

Tänak for CER

https://youtu.be/CppsEqRMsqI?si=o943YsrUeEYkpyRg

[Rallyper]

What about the PET cars. Is it same car for the rally? I mean for example enginewise...

[ouvreur]

What about the PET cars. Is it same car for the rally? I mean for example enginewise...

It depends. Event PET cars will typically be in the same specification as the ones they will use for the rally, though they may try some new components / settings. It's rare a team will try something on a PET (development parts that have not been homologated for example) that they can't or won't use on an event, unless it's something that needs urgent testing.

[EstWRC]

Tänak with some proper damage on Herbst rally

https://x.com/ewrcresults/status/1715638457236664482?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[CeskyOndra]

Now he broke the wheel on SS3

[EstWRC]

Tänak

https://youtu.be/SkZniIADODA?si=ExRLNqDpJtGpNAkI

[hari]

Gallery 26. Herbst Rallye 2023: https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_arc_herbst_rallye_2023.html

https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2023/herbst/1.jpg

[EstWRC]

Lappi doing develomemt test for Hyundai in Finland. Suninen did previous days as I understand

https://x.com/lpaanala/status/1720082241232289919?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[CeskyOndra]

Lappi doing develomemt test for Hyundai in Finland. Suninen did previous days as I understand

https://x.com/lpaanala/status/1720082241232289919?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

That means he will stay with Hyundai

[PLuto]

That means he will stay with Hyundai

No. That only means that he is testing now...

[CeskyOndra]

No. That only means that he is testing now...

Why would he test on snow right now before season ends?

[CeskyOndra]

Why would he develop the car in which he won't race next year

[EstWRC]

Tänak did also a test last year with the new rear wing and updates although he was leaving

So I’m with Pluto on this that it necessarily doesn’t mean he continues with them although I myself I’m sure he does

[ictus]

Why would he develop the car in which he won't race next year

So the car is tested with new upgrades...
Don't you get that testing and development is part of their job until their contract expires

[TypeR]

So the car is tested with new upgrades...
Don't you get that testing and development is part of their job until their contract expires
,,driver to go'' won't test car and see updates at the end of the year.

[wyler]

,,driver to go'' won't test car and see updates at the end of the year.

that depends on a lot of things. i don't think there's any secret weapon at this time of development ( it's not like it's the first year and you can come up with big changes). sometimes you want to benefit from an experienced driver with your car, who can evaluate progress. no point in testing with people that never driven the car before. another reason is timing: what if they need to test something now to choose a direction? they cannot wait for a contract to expire (and there's not much on the market to use as a substitute, tanak can't test properly now -maybe some secret run, but testing is different-) so you test with the current drivers. and so on...

[EstWRC]

i guess no testing this year for the new season like last year?

or have teams still some days left?

Hyundai and Toyota can of course test in Finland any time

[EstWRC]

Hyundai has actually 4 testing days still and also 3 jokers compared to Toyotas 0

More here https://www.wrcwings.tech/2023/11/20/2024-rally1-aero-developments/

[TypeR]

I know contracts are usually valid until end of the year, but has there been cases when a ,,leaving driver'' has tested new car before new year?

[EstWRC]

I know contracts are usually valid until end of the year, but has there been cases when a ,,leaving driver'' has tested new car before new year?

Always

I can’t remember a case when driver wasn’t allowed to test

[TypeR]

Always

I can’t remember a case when driver wasn’t allowed to test
I mean Tanak testing i20 already this year..

[EstWRC]

I mean Tanak testing i20 already this year..

For example Tänak tested the Hyundai already on 5th December when he was leaving Toyota

[TypeR]

Oh, okay.. thank for fast reply!

[EstWRC]

Toyota Rally2 test with Lefebvre

https://youtu.be/eenxqftWLsk?si=VRmrqMItSL9xbGzH

[EstWRC]

More of the same

https://youtu.be/DmcNZvd0ifg?si=zfsB0NgHn_Zcu5O0

[AndersX]

Very nice sounding car; i am telling - Rally2 will eat Rally1 live with its competition, 4 brands and numbers of strong privaters. Also good times to be ERC organizer - top 15-20 goes wild and makes good spectacle. Also 2wd has good competition.

[EstWRC]

Pajari today with Yaris Rally2

https://youtu.be/7wCJ-Izr_Rc?si=iqD1_FU0RZ2pxP82

[EstWRC]

Pajari

https://youtu.be/Ic1nu5D9KoA?si=4nbolzVM0EbwzrIb

[EstWRC]

Linnamäe

https://youtu.be/2RKF_Q9HTHc?si=LEhuukWl5ALR7C5G

[ictus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWnHf8P4D9A
C3 test - Rossel & Gryazin

[EstWRC]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231211/1aa4e49db2db6ba71a142ea6c96fc6aa.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak encouraged after first Hyundai WRC 2024 pre-season test

https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/tanak-encouraged-after-first-hyundai-wrc-2024-pre-season-test/10557019/

[EstWRC]

Loubet

https://youtu.be/tIP6beI-GTU?si=lLujFXYPYCz9i1T2

[EstWRC]

Loubet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4giKjvstOI

[EstWRC]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231212/c96720d37d732200c95e722fb0b1eebf.jpg

[EstWRC]

Solans and Ciamin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pH4_cA6mkI

[EstWRC]

Tanak encouraged after first Hyundai WRC 2024 pre-season test

https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/tanak-encouraged-after-first-hyundai-wrc-2024-pre-season-test/10557019/

sounds too happy by Tänak standards

[Fast Eddie WRC]

sounds too happy by Tänak standards

Maybe he's just building bridges now he's back at Hyundai... or maybe the i20 just feels a lot more comfortable to him than the Puma.

[Rallyest]

Maybe he's just building bridges now he's back at Hyundai... or maybe the i20 just feels a lot more comfortable to him than the Puma.


Maybe a little harsh comparison, but if you sit from Lada to BMW or mercedes it would be weird if the bmw didnt feel more comfortable

[EstWRC]

Toyota testing in Finland

Check the mirrors

https://youtu.be/i8xdjSAhisA?si=QdUikSugwW7xjNTF

[TypeR]

Toyota testing in Finland

Check the mirrors

https://youtu.be/i8xdjSAhisA?si=QdUikSugwW7xjNTF
Tired of replacing tens and tens of them during the season :D
In wind-tunnel and excel they may be better, but I doubt any rally/stage has won/lost because of the mirrors :D

[EstWRC]

Kalle

https://youtu.be/ZIUKqKTVeVE?si=X4f2sp9wJNK6GEaB

[EstWRC]

Hyundai also testing with Lappi in Finland

I wonder if Tänak will also test

https://youtu.be/puP0rEg1Jl8?si=0bJNvIhDKepFHXon

[Eli]

Hyundai also testing with Lappi in Finland

I wonder if Tänak will also test

https://youtu.be/puP0rEg1Jl8?si=0bJNvIhDKepFHXon

Didn't he test already in Southern France earlier this month (https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/tanak-set-for-busy-refresher-month-to-prepare-for-wrc-2024/10554910/)?

[EstWRC]

yea but i mean now in finland on their permanent test track like Lappi today

[paddocknews]

Hyundai also testing with Lappi in Finland

I wonder if Tänak will also test

https://youtu.be/puP0rEg1Jl8?si=0bJNvIhDKepFHXon

Tänak

https://twitter.com/paddocknews/status/1736305792200868068?s=46&t=-jng5meQ4A0OG5oWp5QapA

[EstWRC]

Nice! Hopefully there will be a longer vid later on

[paddocknews]

Yes

[EstWRC]

Tänak by Nettirabbi

https://youtu.be/Posl3KCEhAY?si=nIOUmgVvdGgV-JGg

[paddocknews]

Tänak by Rallyholic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL79owcyWDc

[Eli]

Tänak by WRC Timo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH-EWlLyLJI

[EstWRC]

Some night time runs as well in this video

https://youtu.be/XseckKcSZ3g?si=KfuXiTsQKABjo5Cj

[EstWRC]

One more of Tänak

https://youtu.be/RRcN7TNtDpY?si=RmmXMwV84AcuUgTK

[TypeR]

so there still was some M-Sport testing during the weekend.
Lewis Bates tested Puma
Facebook link:
https://fb.watch/o-Dj0w0OdS/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

so there still was some M-Sport testing during the weekend.
Lewis Bates tested Puma
Facebook link:
https://fb.watch/o-Dj0w0OdS/

Not really testing as such, but rather a chance to experience the car and provided by a sponsor.

[EstWRC]

Neuville

https://youtu.be/-D8fFL54XA0?si=E3ztcrKOExzYLs5P

[ictus]

Does anyone know if they are testing on Hankooks?

[TypeR]

Hankook comes in 2025.. I'm pretty sure, the rally1 tyres are not even in making..

yellow (Pirelli) Sottozero logos on sides..
https://www.upload.ee/image/16068889/Screenshot_20231219_125833_Dolphin.jpg

[EstWRC]

Gryazin and Rossel

https://youtu.be/Yxxp-rYYsBA?si=iMA2Q4VlpteU44D-

[Sulland]

Still no testimg by Mikkelsen. Do anyone have clue on his testplan, or is it just a day just in front of the rallies?

[EstWRC]

Teams will test the coming weeks. Toyota next week

[Eli]

Teams will test the coming weeks. Toyota next week

Hyundai this week?

[EstWRC]

Hyundai this week?

I think not. Definitely there would be some footage

[EstWRC]

Rossel

https://youtu.be/_vt3b3MeDeg?si=9o7a_RwPAhkbeBbc

[rallyfiend]

Rossel

https://youtu.be/_vt3b3MeDeg?si=9o7a_RwPAhkbeBbc

He and Gryazin should get the best out of that car on tarmac.

But on gravel....?

[EstWRC]

Neuville and also Katsuta should be testing today

https://x.com/morghanbollone/status/1745001198782927249?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[wyler]

Neuville and also Katsuta should be testing today

https://x.com/morghanbollone/status/1745001198782927249?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

neuville posted some stories on his ig

[EstWRC]

Katsuta with all black Toyota

https://x.com/omfanaancien/status/1745074936463380752?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[EstWRC]

Neuville

https://youtu.be/bn3NhI6GxWk?si=D9E_tau4A6FCBwuR

[wyler]

Katsuta with all black Toyota

https://x.com/omfanaancien/status/1745074936463380752?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

it's just the new color or the front bumper is a bit different?

[EstWRC]

Neuville

https://youtu.be/d8X_E0RVEVo?si=fQ3kaUeM3WT4oxKy

https://youtu.be/eoDzhr8_Res?si=JLtUIAGHOMsxvH-f

https://youtu.be/_9DucqV2hto?si=s411sWDIdCClIV5o

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Katsuta Monte PET

https://youtu.be/crPFmcMn8Ck?si=1MIZHh6AT-UV4VG2

[EstWRC]

Evans in Finland

https://youtu.be/mpqvfQkJA8c?si=D7QuHrZpyIvJJOXG

[EstWRC]

Katsuta

https://youtu.be/dMrUp6758tI?si=6PpocjK-dW8IY5eo

[EstWRC]

Ogier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViXhTLrMzis

[TypeR]

Toyota testing on very snowy roads compared to Hyundai..

[EstWRC]

Tänak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHxDBX5Y4TM

[EstWRC]

Ogier

https://youtu.be/LB-evrG8Mxs?si=HzbjpnLFDxBGR_f-

https://youtu.be/zZFvphxwSq4?si=am64dFYvPYYClZhh

https://youtu.be/Ml3H7_WSoW4?si=ms6DdXEpnu_HCPMs

https://youtu.be/XezGSyUfoi8?si=dK2A7zcnl2Awik9U

[EstWRC]

Tänak

https://youtu.be/6Zn4C4jw43M?si=m8Bn2YHr8rUfqlyG

[EstWRC]

Tänak

https://youtu.be/caqUJcujUFY?si=Zx3GgeOC0DBDGbyK

[Lead]

Will be interesting to see how Mikkelsen will handle Rally1 car. I bet only one test before Monte wont be enough for him to ''get the feeling'' with the car.

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen

https://youtu.be/kCm2rV0cd0E?si=MLyLvMc1LmX_TeCE

[EstWRC]

One more of Tänak dancing around the bumpy road

https://youtu.be/L7HFaYsovGQ?si=bcQnNbrAG-4jNjR5

[Chema]

Here Mikkelsen again:

https://youtu.be/qXSC2zdIIkM?feature=shared

[EstWRC]

Evans

https://youtu.be/JVqF9LqVvak?si=YFG3mOsueOtEKViw

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen

https://youtu.be/DAnqMuLYjw4?si=LD6oxvdmwqmeOE3S

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen

https://youtu.be/fQSVDT7UnBM?si=HDYZzyw7OLQCW5tU

https://youtu.be/fFZ6wMIy1xU?si=8ozhqTTY4mRzuaH7

[EstWRC]

Evans

https://youtu.be/8xn6MMx6VkY?si=CKV-kAonOY4q1SqU

https://youtu.be/ERvRHKXSGJU?si=cLczIm80wYJUNKNW

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen also today on snowy conditions

https://x.com/am89news/status/1746132145075065157?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[Sulland]

Any comments from Mr Mikkelsen on how he found the car?

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen today

https://youtu.be/SXU4NNXK3Pw?si=-PwlEKVEbfE50dpF

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Any comments from Mr Mikkelsen on how he found the car?

https://www.parcferme.no/slik-var-andreas-sin-forste-test-med-hybridbilen/193568

[Lead]

https://www.parcferme.no/slik-var-andreas-sin-forste-test-med-hybridbilen/193568

In Monte the best result for him would be to reach the finish line. Okay, maybe beat Munster, but thats that. With so little testing there is no way he will much the pace.

[SubaruNorway]

Mikkelsen and Neuville was doing PR drives today if you are wondering how they got two days

[TypeR]

PR myas*.. Mikkelsen being in the car for first time and already doing show runs..? Noway.
+ today they were on totally diffetent surface - full snow like Toyota tested..
Although Tanak called it an end of PET.
Maybe he knows how the car feels in snow.

[SubaruNorway]

That's what everyone will have to do now with the new rules, guess there's no ruling that you have to do PR days after the event. Nothing to be so upset about...

[RS]

Solberg has been testing on snow for Rally Sweden. Proper Skoda Motorsport test and not Toksport.

[EstWRC]

Fourmaux today

https://x.com/rallyesport/status/1746451421816381515?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[EstWRC]

Neuville/ Mikkelsen from yesterday

https://youtu.be/-AJHfTfrwgk?si=fYWVPEW9jhW2n3kE

https://youtu.be/7fGfGg19A30?si=L6zA_HyTr4wJbiQg

https://youtu.be/nf0na8HFTuU?si=1ymdSBv-06y0nJPJ

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDyea7nWIAAOka4?format=jpg&name=large

[wyler]

PR myas*.. Mikkelsen being in the car for first time and already doing show runs..? Noway.
+ today they were on totally diffetent surface - full snow like Toyota tested..
Although Tanak called it an end of PET.
Maybe he knows how the car feels in snow.

why not? mikkelsen is the one that needs more mileage in the car, and show runs can be usefull for testing as well...

[EstWRC]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240114/d15233c173ab222fc4b1c63aa8ce89f8.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240114/803c89e21932c089a27c210d030b4d33.jpg


Credit https://x.com/llluis555/status/1746494156275417449?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fourmaux

https://youtu.be/Zr2dxWnekfs?si=e3mrJoY4r9Ahr28L

https://youtu.be/NOOgG8Il65Y?si=zh2D68Ry6xWrz8GY

https://youtu.be/pDnmQI3pyMs?si=2o5P6B_8lKQnUKdo

[manthey]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDyea7nWIAAOka4?format=jpg&name=large

wow

source or hi res available? thanks

[Fast Eddie WRC]

wow

source or hi res available? thanks
https://x.com/planetemarcus/status/1746444946226213175?s=20

[EstWRC]

Fourmaux day 2

https://youtu.be/gUhaYa7Wcfk?si=RojgrHyO9i_ZrGF2

[Fast Eddie WRC]

More Fourmaux on the snow

https://youtu.be/nU9r1H3Xv68?si=Q-0zbL57pm2bb3vW

[Extremrallye]

Tanak and Mikkelsen.
https://youtu.be/1JcSWaqSyM0?feature=shared

[EstWRC]

Neuville/ Tänak/ Mikkelsen

https://youtu.be/4b1ucIV0-_E?si=L-JjWy0EXOkVk0ha

[EstWRC]

Munster

https://youtu.be/2XPZ-63ZaEg?si=U7v-JXsD7YAWwm6v

https://youtu.be/Yj63fijAncc?si=npMFLiRdETMEo7ev

[EstWRC]

Munster day2

https://youtu.be/t1hTskMsTYo?si=Dri-9rxR-UJOkv0r

[EstWRC]

Munster day 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avpZtwO6i1c

[EstWRC]

Ciamin

https://youtu.be/0CwTJxk81dc?si=KNv30E6qTdth9xVT

[manthey]

Ogier PET

https://youtu.be/n4LokAe86K4?si=MXU8W-WCFzqcH81q

[gaudino69]

hello Neuville 10.01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbIQHQ-7Jx0
Tanak 11.01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caqUJcujUFY
Evans 12.01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni5LHw9veWo
Fourmaux 14.01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JIrIPTiRrg
and the best of with Mikkelsen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2POFjitNESs&t=17s
thanks for watching :D

[EstWRC]

Lefebvre/Bouffier

https://youtu.be/QYBGGW2aFA8?si=7M2jr1B674_WSs_x

[EstWRC]

Solberg

https://youtu.be/nS8B-p3ZHyI?si=MGNfwOV1exx_P8aV

[RS]

Solberg day 2:

https://youtu.be/XYU3LLreaVA?si=aerP0sUPVb1PcVM9

https://youtu.be/mrM1UBBfZAY?si=ZGL92WrJBdldVIDn

[dimviii]

Jan Solans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8L-lH6Xdi8

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ingram PET & snowy Solberg

https://youtu.be/W3j_sIaAbGo?si=x7mhl1OWStQJS6Vr

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just Ingram...
https://youtu.be/RjzNafoy2Wo?si=KDALkg_-E-d3fplx

[EstWRC]

Tänak testing for Sweden today

https://x.com/hmsgofficial/status/1752638178765197656?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[satukata]

https://youtu.be/QzFy9rpvOs8?si=e7GMpNwX1n4RlLEO

Tänak today

[EstWRC]

Tänak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcvomgHQJoQ

[EstWRC]

Tänak

https://youtu.be/6DTNPMAP6OQ?si=0kUqr0mFR7TnEj9h

[EstWRC]

Neuville

https://youtu.be/yTix4oLQgQk?si=FJ_26EcjGHXvzLZ_

[EstWRC]

Neuville

https://youtu.be/qd9gQA493W0?si=8ZOMECgWHZ0prk1o

[satukata]

LAPPI

https://youtu.be/E3gohtTNiuE?si=ktNZo6m-7k1Y3inM

[EstWRC]

As I understand from different sources in Twitter, Hyundai was testing the new Hankook tyres today

https://x.com/t_lindgren_fi/status/1753812428133949488?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[satukata]

Evans

https://youtu.be/uVKQ-TDV8Fo

[EstWRC]

Evans

https://youtu.be/IZ5t4JIZbP8?si=yGIg5TVbm7Q79rM6

[satukata]

Kalle

https://youtu.be/C6h57vNAHyY

[EstWRC]

Kalle

https://youtu.be/BTETTUyGJM0?si=aFMLGih-5NNZ5GSW

[EstWRC]

Kalle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t302OerX-oc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrR8oDcWz7w

[ictus]

Hyundai on Hankooks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg9UNJCS4wI&t=37s

[EstWRC]

Taka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGN8RjFMG0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mw1XWoriFQ

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fourmaux having some ice driving tuition with Chris Ingram...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GF5NR-rXgAA6AqG?format=jpg&name=medium

[EstWRC]

Tänak for Kenya

https://youtu.be/tZk1BTFyqE0?si=vtDb9QclhofbZkSM

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport doing their Safari test at home at Greystoke (muddy & rutted after the weekend rally there)...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4YyzlHMivn/?igsh=MTlsazU0azF2M3FzdQ==

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen on the jump to Rally1 and insufficient testing...

https://rallyjournal.com/teemu-suninen-demands-change-most-people-dont-understand/

[TypeR]

Suninen has done nearly 40 rallies with 2017-2021 car(almostsame engine, better aero and suspension..).. basically only hybrid is added..
Yes, everything has been upgraded/improved, but still he is very experienced.

I would understand if Munster or some other youngster was talking about it..
Although he has managed thebig car very well.

Agree with Latvala's point tho, that couple of extra days wouldn't make it soo much more expensive.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

You can only take Suninen's words at face value. He has no reason to say it's been hard for him to adapt if it hasn't.

Plus remember how Evans struggled to become comfortable in the Rally1 and he had vast experience of the previous generations of cars. He also had as much testing as he wanted on the teams Finnish gravel roads.

Anyone coming from Rally2 cars will find the change even greater. Although sometimes the young actually find adapting easier.

[EstWRC]

Neuville and Tänak

https://youtu.be/A2WzFYQ3acE?si=IJu2qDGss0JfhtXC

[ik1911]

Somewhere in Croatia Today!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cc_rc/albums/72177720315956469/

[EstWRC]

Somewhere in Croatia Today!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cc_rc/albums/72177720315956469/

Msport for Croatia https://youtu.be/4vQsQaziaKg?si=tMyIxb-VgSTbYxiO

Toyota for Croatia https://youtu.be/_cCIQEGw1Ww?si=iQc8u2C559Vs7Dfi

[Walach]

Pajari testing Yaris Rally2 with Toyota team https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwQ2gtMk5Wo

[Eli]

At least one thing will be ready in time for 2025:
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hankook-set-to-test-asphalt-rally1-rubber/

[EstWRC]

Munster https://youtu.be/hCQyTCLD6DE?si=k-oUlRVPOTlFmlVe

Katsuta https://youtu.be/YCQ51744H2I?si=lVGB4xrafLPd5hPr

Evans https://youtu.be/tghDKGw4bco?si=awMc9oArHpBk_8P2

[EstWRC]

Fourmaux flying https://youtu.be/lXp7TLlg-mg?si=LtA6PN0MCs-B3O0v

[Andre Oliveira]

https://scontent.fopo5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/420545717_8024137070948983_7681784114566801821_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=3g_L8pfZVYYAb7kZQdo&_nc_ht=scontent.fopo5-1.fna&oh=00_AfCUV6pWuf2jS4Wk5l9cxTV8R3A5jpyeF41MsbCd_zF8 Lw&oe=66150017

[EstWRC]

Always one step ahead of the competitors

[Eli]

Always one step ahead of the competitors

I hope Lancia will come soon enough and hit the ground running, although now that it’s ‘French’ Lancia, a French-Italian co-operation in rallying….I doubt it.
I’m pretty sure, Toyota will hit it out of the park.

[Rallyest]

https://scontent.fopo5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/420545717_8024137070948983_7681784114566801821_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=3g_L8pfZVYYAb7kZQdo&_nc_ht=scontent.fopo5-1.fna&oh=00_AfCUV6pWuf2jS4Wk5l9cxTV8R3A5jpyeF41MsbCd_zF8 Lw&oe=66150017

Damn that looks fucking ugly

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Damn that looks fucking ugly

Dirtfish: "The team declined to talk in detail about the test beyond confirming it's a ‘prototype car.’"

It's probably a very basic 'mule' given they are testing it during the Croatia PET. Swapping the rear wing for the Rally2 one and blocking the inlets is quite easy. Plus the hybrid unit can stay for now as its weight will be replaced by ballast or it will change the car balance too much.

.

[EstWRC]

Ogier https://youtu.be/OHyFPSsgN98?si=qGgEh5HMqgFmVymP

[Eli]

Are Hyundai testing this week?

[CeskyOndra]

Are Hyundai testing this week?

Starting tomorrow with Neuville maybe, cuz he is already in Croatia today

[EstWRC]

Starting tomorrow with Neuville maybe, cuz he is already in Croatia today

And so it is

https://x.com/stkalcevic/status/1777278032513843690?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[ik1911]

Tanak Today!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cc_rc/53642284427/in/album-72177720315956469/

[EstWRC]

Tänak

https://youtu.be/1--vBByXbyE?si=Z7ISXPuIN7jX_dFC

[EstWRC]

Tänak for Portugal

https://youtu.be/6k5LEupD7Fk?si=Y0TkAJ9XYeXcxi1N

[Andre Oliveira]

Tänak, Munster, McErlean, Loubet and the official GR Yaris Rally2 test car in Portugal today. Plenty of action.

[Eli]

Tänak for Portugal

https://youtu.be/6k5LEupD7Fk?si=Y0TkAJ9XYeXcxi1N

Looks like Sordo is testing there as well.

[EstWRC]

Tänak

https://youtu.be/kiktUFe-3co?si=wovjw1iZpVp9WV1m

[EstWRC]

Neuville

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT-gdpH7z9M

[Managarium]

Neuville

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT-gdpH7z9M

with spanish flag on roof scoop

[denkimi]

with spanish flag on roof scoop

tanak also

[TypeR]

It most likely means that Rally Catalunya is coming back....

[EstWRC]

My guess is it’s the car that Sordo will use this weekend to compete at Rali TERRAS

[manthey]

Toyota is testing in sardinia (kalle's instagram)

[Eli]

It most likely means that Rally Catalunya is coming back....

In 2027 perhaps?

[EstWRC]

Evans for Sardinia

https://youtu.be/GvnQqgT8ZmA?si=b4AISuT4dDkd5dnW

[EstWRC]

Sordo https://youtu.be/NKqJQLKlqDA?si=199ai_aOf2Qs8qJ7

Munster https://youtu.be/c_7JuAJ1W18?si=_GaShLZCbhDzO1Y3

Neuville https://youtu.be/squR_MO6I6c?si=rJEuQEKWMo-qghX5

[EstWRC]

Fourmaux. Btw msport tested also hankook tyres

https://youtu.be/DESKqpAqX5o?si=3uxWc8FrCUGMT0Pi

https://youtu.be/sHetcbBQwKk?si=M7kq3bf2ar3Slhco

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport/ Ford have been testing using a 'simulator' in the USA. They say its helped improve the Puma Rally1 car, especially for tarmac. Does anyone know what this simulator could be like ?

Story and Fourmaux/ Millener quotes here:
https://rallyjournal.com/m-sport-ford-has-received-a-significant-improvement/

[JRodrigues]

M-Sport/ Ford have been testing using a 'simulator' in the USA. They say its helped improve the Puma Rally1 car, especially for tarmac. Does anyone know what this simulator could be like ?

Story and Fourmaux/ Millener quotes here:
https://rallyjournal.com/m-sport-ford-has-received-a-significant-improvement/

I believe it's this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj4uZ_BFDjg

[macebig]

Rfactor Pro still going strong... Remember Red Bull was using it for F1 a decade plus ago...

[satukata]

Mikkelsen today in Finland. First gravel test.

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen today in Finland. First gravel test.

https://x.com/hartusvuoriwrc/status/1799513729081409713?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[EstWRC]

Ogier for Poland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCYLNvBY3VE

[EstWRC]

Neuville testing in Estonia today https://x.com/Karlip1/status/1800815521967001998

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier Poland test... fans getting too close as usual.

https://youtu.be/tIWtYrG3xqU?si=wLaXQ--Wqmj-wXJv

[EstWRC]

Neuville https://youtu.be/ityfsYVgJ5A?si=RVcGl2oRVIo_WOgL

[CeskyOndra]

Ogier Poland test... fans getting too close as usual.

https://youtu.be/tIWtYrG3xqU?si=wLaXQ--Wqmj-wXJv

This is just brutal. Can't wait for Poland

[CeskyOndra]

Neuville https://youtu.be/ityfsYVgJ5A?si=RVcGl2oRVIo_WOgL

Looking quite comited, lets see

[EstWRC]

Tänak today https://x.com/oskarorav15/status/1801139842819993798?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Katsuta for Poland

https://youtu.be/625DS5MShM4?si=jtrWs4joRTjp1aOy

[EstWRC]

Taka https://youtu.be/-Qx5ekzYzRQ?si=bE-M_UqOa1LrETwR

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmhU6WMahcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGHMJdESySU

[Tauri_J]

Tänak today https://x.com/oskarorav15/status/1801139842819993798?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

That is such a nice section. Been there many times.

[paddocknews]

Ott Tänak Hyundai i20 N Rally1 Hybrid | Pre Event Test Rally Poland 2024 https://youtu.be/0PZv7KBJ1SM

[kernel_gdi]

Does anybody know when they last tested in Catalonia (Spain)? I know they went to Almería/Murcia (southern Spain) some time ago, but I don't know about Catalonia.

[EstWRC]

aaanddd Mikkelsen today like expected, getting also some rain https://x.com/paddocknews/status/1801517947438903315

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen https://youtu.be/3BykP5Chxlo?si=wbzdzZO2LNV-wIyY

[EstWRC]

Munster

https://youtu.be/4yCYXV4xDeI?si=kXOaWTxTAtMlYIbw

[EstWRC]

Fourmaux https://youtu.be/tH4qRZ5hZKU?si=wNkvMRSz8-lQ8ViC

[flat_right]

It's interesting that Hyundai and Ford chose to test for the Polish rally in Estonia. While the speed may be similar, South-Estonian roads are generally wider and more flowing compared to Poland's narrower, twistier roads with frequent direction changes. Hopefully, we won't hear any complaints that the Estonian roads didn't adequately resemble the Rally Poland.

[TypeR]

Heard from my Estonian friend that Fourmaux had rolled, but could continue after some reparing in service..

Don't have any pics or smth tho.

[EstWRC]

Heard from my Estonian friend that Fourmaux had rolled, but could continue after some reparing in service..

Don't have any pics or smth tho.

It’s true. You can see the aftermath here at 4.30

https://youtu.be/vKGKzU11X28?si=QbdjwGBOko7Lg3o2

[paddocknews]

Adrien Fourmaux Ford Puma Hybrid Rally1 | Pre Event Test Rally Poland 2024 | BIG JUMPS
https://youtu.be/N_odrR_ppw0

[EstWRC]

Sesks today https://x.com/paddocknews/status/1802627019244462570

[paddocknews]

Martins Sesks Ford Puma Rally1 | Pre Event Test WRC Rally Poland 2024
https://youtu.be/icOagwiwpC8

[Prill99]

Sesks today was really fast. Impressive drive. Nice line. Full on. He knows how to hold leg on throttle.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZeJRLCShvWA?si=Y4tSNEvuHPVs1uEq
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[AMSS]

Sesks today was really fast. Impressive drive. Nice line. Full on. He knows how to hold leg on throttle.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZeJRLCShvWA?si=Y4tSNEvuHPVs1uEq
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Has probably been written somewhere, but Sesks doing Poland without Hybrid, will they remowe it completely and add extra weight or how does it work?

[Prill99]

Has probably been written somewhere, but Sesks doing Poland without Hybrid, will they remowe it completely and add extra weight or how does it work?There was no green Hybrid light. I don't know that. How they did it yesterday.

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[Tauri_J]

Has probably been written somewhere, but Sesks doing Poland without Hybrid, will they remowe it completely and add extra weight or how does it work?

Sadly they replace it with ballast.

[Managarium]

Has probably been written somewhere, but Sesks doing Poland without Hybrid, will they remowe it completely and add extra weight or how does it work?

https://www.wrcwings.tech/2024/06/18/the-non-hybrid-ford-puma-rally1/

[Eli]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/evans-questions-wrc-testing-limitations/

I remember pre rally 1 cars they had 42 days of testing and before that 55. What do you guys think? 21 is too little?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/evans-questions-wrc-testing-limitations/

I remember pre rally 1 cars they had 42 days of testing and before that 55. What do you guys think? 21 is too little?

Sounds like an excuse for his poor recent performances by Evans.

Plus the teams can test as much as they like at their home base.

And the top drivers are very experienced now and Teams have a lot of data plus videos to watch so they should be well-prepared everywhere.

[Eli]

Sounds like an excuse for his poor recent performances by Evans.

Plus the teams can test as much as they like at their home base.

And the top drivers are very experienced now and Teams have a lot of data plus videos to watch so they should be well-prepared everywhere.

I wasn't making excuses for Evans, he is off the mark this year, but it's wild to think only 5 years ago they had 52?60? days of testing a year and now they have half..or less.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I wasn't making excuses for Evans, he is off the mark this year, but it's wild to think only 5 years ago they had 52?60? days of testing a year and now they have half..or less.

I meant he was making it an excuse in his quotes on reduced testing.

The reduction in testing was one of the money-saving changes. Probably to limit big spending by the factory teams and to make it easier for M-Sport to complete.

[denkimi]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/evans-questions-wrc-testing-limitations/

I remember pre rally 1 cars they had 42 days of testing and before that 55. What do you guys think? 21 is too little?
Yes.
not perse for the old veteran drivers, but it's making life more difficult for new young drivers.

And it's just a stupid rule that doesn't make any difference, if they run out of test days they just enter some local rally somewhere.

[paddocknews]

Ott Tänak Hyundai i20 N Rally1 Hybrid | Pre Event Test WRC Rally Latvia 2024
https://youtu.be/i2r6NiYUGAg

[satukata]

Sami Pajari RALLY1 Toyota

https://youtu.be/JNLam_TRB00?si=e36X4-F9OrgKy5Ma

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Millener suggests combined teams testing and commercialising the product...

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-test-opportunity-wrc-is-failing-to-exploit/

[macebig]

That's a good point. If they can organise it properly it will be very helpful promotionally. Visit part of classic stages, go to countries with no WRC history and grow interest,create a small service park with amenities. That's proper. It's doubtful they can execute it, though.

[satukata]

KAlle today

https://youtu.be/Cm0dm6FEtOk

[EstWRC]

Kalle

https://youtu.be/_4jaH6ugJ1M?si=-Qw_cYGQ1sKatKTs

[satukata]

https://youtu.be/b4SwsK9P4BA

Sami Pajari day 2 day 3

[Dimitris]

I made a post about PET inspired by Milliner's recent comments

https://www.powerslideblog.com/wrc-news/should-pre-event-testing-change

Do let me know what you think!

[drive]

Lappi used Lithuanian rally championship event for 'testing', many runs on shakedown... and he's won of course this rally :) Shakedown was on drying gravel after heavy rain a day before, then on Fri stages were dry, and on Sat heavy rain first and drying stages again.

https://youtu.be/q2UtEv6DNlU

[EstWRC]

Neuville for Finland today https://x.com/hugo_blancher/status/1815678213944729842?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

Katsuta also testing today

[Rallyest]

Neuville for Finland today https://x.com/hugo_blancher/status/1815678213944729842?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

Katsuta also testing today

Wondering how big is the cleaning difference between starting first and second and third? Clearly not as big as in poland or Latvia, but wondering how adequately comparable will be pace of Evans Neuville and Tänak be?

[EstWRC]

It is quite minimal effect in Finland but there is some. Depending on the stages also of course. I remember Oittila stage having a quite a loose part one year when Tänak won but that was only like for 5kms or something.

[EstWRC]

Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wf6iNpDp2Y

[satukata]

https://youtu.be/JD6Lxs4TrLU

Neuville and Taka

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville told DF he hadn't driven on the Hyundai test road in Finland since it was frozen pre-Sweden.

This is strange. He and the i20 struggled on fast gravel for years, so Hyundai move their base to Finland to allow more testing and then dont use it !

[EstWRC]

Tänak today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPil4nMX6oA

[Rallyest]

Tänak today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPil4nMX6oA


Noticed it in Latvia already, and watching Tänak/Neuville test, Hyundai looks very nose heavy compared to toyota on jumps. Toyota looks much more balanced

[satukata]

kalle today

https://youtu.be/_rwkW0o5n2g?si=rAfstXY7oM0dWAM1

[EstWRC]

Kalle https://youtu.be/erl4knW7vqE?si=JXcGyFjx9bhF8_r0

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://youtu.be/Rhlc_YllGgo?si=s8hznBdsfIu1cJtc

[EstWRC]

Evans https://youtu.be/m-OwXVgANes?si=dliEBghZBc1I82Af