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EstWRC
19th December 2021, 10:21
That is one ugly duckling

funny, its the opposite for me. i think the first time while following WRC the M-sport car is the ugliest for me, their cars have always been my favourite, dont like the fish eyed front end and its kinda bulky, and Yaris looks like a matchbox car not a real one.

but we will see when the liveries will put on, it can change a lot. and anyway, the looks dont win titles.

Thierry again today

https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/268466449_2124618364367961_1685462699012928997_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Z86EsmQKBNQAX9LpA2X&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=00_AT8fEz77zOxeMgUdgwLjQ4QE4ci95TiEo5BWzCdZWU29 VA&oe=61C4956D
https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/268620416_2124618374367960_228294950932113999_n.jp g?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=6WXjiWiDJa0AX9oLsc_&tn=DcYXvY5M0zzXWiOx&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=00_AT8MGOMmPXMeSJ5Ipg2kmJolfche0xOLoqLO2XZ8NoPJ vQ&oe=61C4059C


https://www.facebook.com/julienpixelrallye/posts/2124618241034640

Fast Eddie WRC
19th December 2021, 12:44
Ogier by Dirtfish

https://youtu.be/sVItSAfFCMk

cali
19th December 2021, 13:06
I must say I like the Puma the most atm

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dimviii
19th December 2021, 15:00
I must say I like the Puma the most atm

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me too.

pantealex
19th December 2021, 15:37
I must say I like the Puma the most atm



+ 1

EstWRC
19th December 2021, 16:25
Neuville day 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGg6qnPVZHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ero52oe91yU

er88
19th December 2021, 18:03
Ogier by Dirtfish

https://youtu.be/sVItSAfFCMkReally don't understand why they'd choose to be so braindead. And it's not the first time.

You have the contacts and resources to be there and film content from multiple drivers tests, yet the video you end up with is a shitty 2minute clip with pointless background music that only detract from what you have filmed.

Why not interview all the drivers, cut the stupid music and show more than 2 and a half minutes of the testing.

EstWRC
19th December 2021, 18:25
Neuville https://youtu.be/b99gw90k9MU

https://youtu.be/JMcBf6vIiDY

doubled1978
19th December 2021, 18:30
funny, its the opposite for me. i think the first time while following WRC the M-sport car is the ugliest for me, their cars have always been my favourite, dont like the fish eyed front end and its kinda bulky, and Yaris looks like a matchbox car not a real one.

but we will see when the liveries will put on, it can change a lot. and anyway, the looks dont win titles.

Thierry again today

https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/268466449_2124618364367961_1685462699012928997_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Z86EsmQKBNQAX9LpA2X&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=00_AT8fEz77zOxeMgUdgwLjQ4QE4ci95TiEo5BWzCdZWU29 VA&oe=61C4956D
https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/268620416_2124618374367960_228294950932113999_n.jp g?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=6WXjiWiDJa0AX9oLsc_&tn=DcYXvY5M0zzXWiOx&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=00_AT8MGOMmPXMeSJ5Ipg2kmJolfche0xOLoqLO2XZ8NoPJ vQ&oe=61C4059C


https://www.facebook.com/julienpixelrallye/posts/2124618241034640

For me it’s the Toyota I don’t like, I can’t get used to the rake in the chassis. I quite like the Puma, the Hyundai seems a bit stretched, I actually prefer the Rally2 car.

Lancia Stratos
19th December 2021, 18:59
Really don't understand why they'd choose to be so braindead. And it's not the first time.

You have the contacts and resources to be there and film content from multiple drivers tests, yet the video you end up with is a shitty 2minute clip with pointless background music that only detract from what you have filmed.

Why not interview all the drivers, cut the stupid music and show more than 2 and a half minutes of the testing.

The footage is provided by Toyota - it's not filmed by DirtFish.

Eli
19th December 2021, 19:08
Is it just me or are now all the cars equipped with full LED headlights?

AnttiL
19th December 2021, 20:02
Dirtfish just used TGR’s promo footage

EDIT: I was late

Anyway, I’m rarely sentimental about cars, I don’t feel like I have a favourite out of these three. I hope they are all equal and competitive.

EstWRC
19th December 2021, 20:32
Neuville https://youtu.be/LhGJZFcU19w

Eli
19th December 2021, 21:35
Dirtfish just used TGR’s promo footage

EDIT: I was late

Anyway, I’m rarely sentimental about cars, I don’t feel like I have a favourite out of these three. I hope they are all equal and competitive.

That's because we're missing a 4th car ;)

Fast Eddie WRC
20th December 2021, 10:36
Really don't understand why they'd choose to be so braindead. And it's not the first time.

You have the contacts and resources to be there and film content from multiple drivers tests, yet the video you end up with is a shitty 2minute clip with pointless background music that only detract from what you have filmed.

Why not interview all the drivers, cut the stupid music and show more than 2 and a half minutes of the testing.

Also why did they say it included 'behind the scenes' when it showed none ?

Fast Eddie WRC
20th December 2021, 10:38
Tanak in the hybrid i20 Rally1. So much for retiring ;)

https://twitter.com/DaniLoebinen/status/1472869605991456778?s=20

AnttiL
20th December 2021, 10:49
Also why did they say it included 'behind the scenes' when it showed none ?

Again: this was just content made by Toyota Gazoo Racing. It shows some "behind the scenes" with Ogier walking in the service :D

I don't want to "feed with spoon" but let's just repeat again that Dirtfish is not a charity, it's business.

EstWRC
20th December 2021, 11:03
Tanak in the hybrid i20 Rally1. So much for retiring ;)

https://twitter.com/DaniLoebinen/status/1472869605991456778?s=20

I’m pretty sure Wuorela has a reason for it…

ouvreur
20th December 2021, 11:19
I’m pretty sure Wuorela has a reason for it…

Sniffing glue before turning his computer on can hardly be called a "reason" :laugh:

Unless he knows that Hyundai have only entered him for RMC for banter?

er88
20th December 2021, 11:33
I’m pretty sure Wuorela has a reason for it…Does the idiot every take accountability for the shite he waffles? Or hold his hands up and admit he's a bullshiter spreading fake news.

Shame people still take notice of him.

People can be wrong or get misinformation, it happens. But they'll generally say they were wrong or why. This chap has been incessant with his Hyundai/Tanak pish

Fast Eddie WRC
20th December 2021, 13:47
Breen on the recent M-Sport test on snow:

"It went really well in Finland,” he said. “It was very, very useful to get a day in the snow with the Puma. I don’t know that Toyota has been in those conditions yet and I’d be fairly sure Hyundai hasn’t – and we know we found stuff out from that test that will help us when we’re back in the snow for the pre-Sweden test.

“Everything from the hybrid side went well, we had no issues with the car at all. We were able to scan through all of our options. Obviously we’ve done a lot of testing on gravel, so we had a set-up which was in the ballpark already and we’ve fine-tuned that. When we’re back up here next year, we can fine tune it again. It’s certainly given us good food for thought ahead of round two.”

EstWRC
20th December 2021, 17:28
gallery of Tänak today https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=julienpixelrallye&set=a.2125653384264459

https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/269645069_2125652804264517_7367363068356883891_n.j pg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=6dpieJgV5TMAX8kyIMr&tn=DcYXvY5M0zzXWiOx&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=00_AT_SpQ5FZSpHmGBTq2rilMM0ClxaOHCqwD23hXTS0Mau Ew&oe=61C57E06
https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/269699443_2125652984264499_6177995456379555422_n.j pg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=4SmQOYmF1bEAX_pQivH&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=00_AT_QDWddsp0hhqimRqND7CZqiW8p9V9_y25KGldwB6MM fA&oe=61C5ECA3

EstWRC
20th December 2021, 18:00
Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CmOxwM_ZQ0

EstWRC
20th December 2021, 19:28
Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLZd85CNbWQ

EstWRC
20th December 2021, 19:52
Tänak by rourebel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwX8zpwfLQs

dimviii
20th December 2021, 20:05
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHE2f3IXEAwgRX0?format=jpg&name=large

Mirek
20th December 2021, 20:15
I can't help myself but that "not at all a diffuzor but somewhat a diffuzor" makes the cars look awkward from behind.

Andre Oliveira
21st December 2021, 07:53
via Rallirinki / Teemu

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHHRQFaXsAUTjE3?format=png&name=900x900

EstWRC
22nd December 2021, 04:27
Tänak Day 2 https://youtu.be/puIIPGGbOK8

denkimi
22nd December 2021, 13:35
I can't help myself but that "not at all a diffuzor but somewhat a diffuzor" makes the cars look awkward from behind.
The puma makes me think of the brabham fancar. 2 big fans blowing air at the rear, but where is it sucking that air in?

OHL
22nd December 2021, 13:46
The puma makes me think of the brabham fancar. 2 big fans blowing air at the rear, but where is it sucking that air in?

Air come in through the large scoops near the side windows.

dimviii
22nd December 2021, 18:15
Oliver
https://youtu.be/qOR_k9eoQ2Y

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd December 2021, 18:24
The puma makes me think of the brabham fancar. 2 big fans blowing air at the rear, but where is it sucking that air in?

They remind me a lot more of World RX (Rallycross) cars which have a large fan clearly visible at the rear to cool the rear-mounted radiator.

Fans are visible at the back of the new Puma (and Yaris), but the rear of the new i20 is more sealed with just two meshed vents.

EstWRC
22nd December 2021, 21:57
Solberg https://youtu.be/ziILD4mcSOY

Andre Oliveira
23rd December 2021, 15:01
Loeb and Galmiche in Armando Pereira’s Fiesta WRC today

https://twitter.com/rc_noel1/status/1474018658687070225?s=21

Andre Oliveira
24th December 2021, 18:24
Loeb in Fiesta WRC

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/37772-sebastien-loeb-essais-monte-carlo-2022/

dimviii
27th December 2021, 07:44
Hybrid Rally1 2022 VS WRC+ 2019 VS WRC 2016 Rallye Monte Carlo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=152&v=2gXLRbbiXT4&feature=emb_logo

cali
27th December 2021, 11:10
Hybrid Rally1 2022 VS WRC+ 2019 VS WRC 2016 Rallye Monte Carlo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=152&v=2gXLRbbiXT4&feature=emb_logoRoad conditions may ofcourse vary but still, the new Rally1 cars are definitely not slow like many "experts" predicted.

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Mirek
27th December 2021, 13:01
Hybrid Rally1 2022 VS WRC+ 2019 VS WRC 2016 Rallye Monte Carlo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=152&v=2gXLRbbiXT4&feature=emb_logo


Road conditions may ofcourse vary but still, the new Rally1 cars are definitely not slow lile many "experts" predicted.

Comparing data from different sources (onboard data logging and held-held radar from a spectator) is IMHO not a good way. It can be and most likely is misleading. I would take it easy.

Also don't forget that the speed of the previus generations of cars was given mainly by their cornering speed. High downforce also means high drag, i.e. reduced acceleration traded for higher retained speed in corners. On the other hand the main advantage of the new cars should be their acceleration with the help of the electric motor.

EstWRC
9th January 2022, 10:24
The final countdown has begun: Monte Carlo Rally pre-event testing started on Sunday. The race to round one is coming to a close.

In 11 days the entire 2022 World Rally Championship field will assemble in Monaco’s Casino Square ready for the start of a whole new adventure. And the final week and a bit before hybrid Rally1 cars officially land into the world championship will be just as busy as the last six months.

Toyota and Hyundai are first to return to the Gap area for set-up tests ahead of the January 20-23 French Alps event.


https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/wrc-teams-complete-final-pre-monte-carlo-tests/

EstWRC
10th January 2022, 11:02
Tänak today https://twitter.com/DirtFishRally/status/1480493695438929920?s=20
and from Toyotas side its Kalle today

EstWRC
10th January 2022, 13:25
Kalle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ6GyH8LCu8

EstWRC
10th January 2022, 16:14
Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbC4IYy8fXM

EstWRC
10th January 2022, 17:39
Test Day Ott Tänak by [Passats de canto] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcnh82sPRNg

Andre Oliveira
10th January 2022, 18:00
https://www.facebook.com/100044159033252/posts/496881995127097/?d=n

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIwmfxnXEAUwbVj?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIwmfxnX0AYlF3Y?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIwmfxlXMAgZelO?format=jpg&name=medium

EstWRC
10th January 2022, 18:29
Tänak by By PapaJulien https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxnFmi46EJE

Kalle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tblzUgLyNCo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwX25mn6CFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKuKnaJfLb8

EstWRC
10th January 2022, 19:28
Tänak https://youtu.be/ODXwS1lIEUM

https://youtu.be/cB0LlRRp5vU

EstWRC
10th January 2022, 21:11
Kalle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jULsNLTyCsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgGZQg7mMbI

EstWRC
11th January 2022, 06:38
Kalle https://youtu.be/suMTY_b65Pc

https://youtu.be/Y_ugwRHUJ2M

https://youtu.be/MdUQUlzbeSg

EstWRC
11th January 2022, 08:00
Tänak yesterday

https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/271681532_2141795069316957_5908154280696293801_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=9qRiMjUqEqoAX8JWhz7&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=00_AT88u-hX9z6phz4XNIrkh7jvI-Wc64WiGfL_KryY9U-tGA&oe=61E14075
https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/271693174_2141795072650290_5667883926751691309_n.j pg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=S7RbjOYOZWEAX_SRSQT&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=00_AT-sYnwgA29J4e36eamb8YEKEOOmlaxLlUG0ZreNJbqV7w&oe=61E28A02
https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/271698760_2141795439316920_334439994376995645_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=dcdgiidPF-sAX9oPZjA&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=00_AT-XS6VmkpTsgQfR7SSQs-BFiv4phsfD-HUzlm3Xo8AvLw&oe=61E1D76B


credit https://www.facebook.com/media/set?vanity=julienpixelrallye&set=a.2141798889316575

Fast Eddie WRC
11th January 2022, 10:09
Kalle wasn't holding back...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI0CuDCX0AAd79N?format=jpg&name=large

EstWRC
11th January 2022, 11:09
Ogier today, little mistake in the hairpin https://twitter.com/hugo_blancher/status/1480852761227014147?s=21

spyros
11th January 2022, 12:29
just saw the video he is the master of Monte whatever the conditions.............

EstWRC
11th January 2022, 14:16
Ogier https://youtu.be/2utGW7iq0Vo

Andre Oliveira
11th January 2022, 14:27
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIzlW84XoAMccRs?format=jpg&name=large

EstWRC
11th January 2022, 15:57
Fourmaux https://youtu.be/hQdzBPLOMrY

EstWRC
11th January 2022, 16:52
Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC3NNBCsNkM

EstWRC
11th January 2022, 17:36
Fourmaux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZs8WPgy2C8

EstWRC
11th January 2022, 19:28
Fourmaux and Ogier by Passats de Canto https://youtu.be/5AJXHCypYmc

https://youtu.be/n8THqPQnU_Y

AnttiL
12th January 2022, 10:23
Breen off in test today. Crew OK.

https://twitter.com/RubnPerez/status/1481208904520511490

EstWRC
12th January 2022, 10:33
Looks quite a big one again, glad they are okay

EstWRC
12th January 2022, 10:36
An eyewitness told DirtFish: “Craig was going very, very well this morning. He did a lot of runs very quickly. He was caught by a left turn, not a fast one, but there was a bridge. He touched the bridge a little bit and this sent the car to the right and off the road.


“There was half a spin and then the car rolled down the ravine. It stopped on its roof. It would be around 10 or 15 meters from the road down to the car.”


https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/breen-crashes-in-monte-testing/

Fast Eddie WRC
12th January 2022, 10:46
Just what M-Sport didn't need... :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI5PpMcXwAAoDwW?format=jpg&name=medium

er88
12th January 2022, 12:00
Well better it happens now than the rally. Breen was due a crash in testing to join the other drivers ;)

Andre Oliveira
12th January 2022, 12:35
Crash video

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/37996-tests-rallye-monte-carlo-2022-craig-breen-ford-puma-rally1-hd/

Rallyper
12th January 2022, 12:59
Crash video

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/37996-tests-rallye-monte-carlo-2022-craig-breen-ford-puma-rally1-hd/

Ouusshhh!! Not good for self confidence...

doubled1978
12th January 2022, 13:33
Ouusshhh!! Not good for self confidence...

Looked a bit unlucky, certainly with where he ended up. The glancing blow didn’t even look like it broke the steering, just deflected him into the bank. Let’s hope it’s just superficial damage.

Fast Eddie WRC
12th January 2022, 13:34
I wonder if those fans right by the roadside distracted him slightly...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI59vuNXEAAhnDE?format=jpg&name=900x900

AnttiL
12th January 2022, 15:06
I wonder if those fans right by the roadside distracted him slightly...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI59vuNXEAAhnDE?format=jpg&name=900x900

No, spectators are like that all the time on Monte tests

mknight
12th January 2022, 15:12
Looked a bit unlucky, certainly with where he ended up. The glancing blow didn’t even look like it broke the steering, just deflected him into the bank. Let’s hope it’s just superficial damage.

Reminded me a bit of Makinen in Corsica 2001, ended the career of his co-driver (Mannisenmaki) even without falling down the slope.

Sure speeds were different, but "innocent" glancing blow can end pretty badly. ( https://youtu.be/qXj-T8AOYuk?t=30 )

EstWRC
12th January 2022, 15:57
Breen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2XT5da28Fk

er88
12th January 2022, 16:48
I wonder if those fans right by the roadside distracted him slightly...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI59vuNXEAAhnDE?format=jpg&name=900x900Lol....

EstWRC
12th January 2022, 17:29
Breen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD9wXTmF024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG7zwxkN__g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGViKHPtV_M

Fast Eddie WRC
12th January 2022, 19:13
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/m-sports-craig-breen-unscathed-after-wrc-monte-carlo-testing-crash/7215763/

EstWRC
12th January 2022, 20:04
Evans https://youtu.be/DZKjlAwKud8

doubled1978
12th January 2022, 20:15
Reminded me a bit of Makinen in Corsica 2001, ended the career of his co-driver (Mannisenmaki) even without falling down the slope.

Sure speeds were different, but "innocent" glancing blow can end pretty badly. ( https://youtu.be/qXj-T8AOYuk?t=30 )

Yeah, the Makinen one was a bad one.
Thankfully the lads are ok in this case, but I hope whatever damage has occurred isn’t a set back to the programme for the others.

EstWRC
12th January 2022, 20:50
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI7eNO8XwAsPs6l?format=jpg&name=large

macebig
12th January 2022, 21:46
Long night ahead for the M-Sport boys. Puma would be as good as new for tomorrow. Craig owes them a beer.

EstWRC
13th January 2022, 06:01
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI8gU4IWUAAxtZR?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI8gU4KXEAcxrwR?format=jpg&name=900x900

EstWRC
13th January 2022, 07:56
They got it ready for Gus https://twitter.com/andrewgreensmit/status/1481525696917045248?s=21

Fast Eddie WRC
13th January 2022, 09:10
They got it ready for Gus https://twitter.com/andrewgreensmit/status/1481525696917045248?s=21

Great work by the M-Sport mechanics ! :cool:

EstWRC
13th January 2022, 09:54
Neuville https://youtu.be/vPM2aRZu3Ug

Fast Eddie WRC
13th January 2022, 10:02
M-Sport fixing the Puma in a local unit ..
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI-QxlrXIAEG5rh?format=jpg&name=large

Fast Eddie WRC
13th January 2022, 10:06
Puma running again with Gus...

https://twitter.com/DirtFishRally/status/1481562511992315905?s=20

ictus
13th January 2022, 11:31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvf86GwLas Puma looked quite banged up

dimviii
13th January 2022, 14:19
Katsuta
https://youtu.be/GxG4wDtL1zg

EstWRC
13th January 2022, 15:32
Gus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNOjlL8zdRE

wyler
13th January 2022, 17:26
man, i was missing car skewing on hard brakes...

EstWRC
13th January 2022, 18:20
Gus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVfnDbN8C-Y
Taka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an2hXYaOHc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKPFcm_GhTI

dimviii
13th January 2022, 23:40
haha

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI-9snGXMAQX9sZ?format=jpg&name=large

TypeR
14th January 2022, 05:33
All the time the car has been without number and now on one photo I saw they have put an old Yaris's (one of the first ones, #3) on it SP1003.
https://www.upload.ee/image/13792782/FB_IMG_1642138193234.jpg

Mirek
14th January 2022, 17:23
All the time the car has been without number and now on one photo I saw they have put an old Yaris's (one of the first ones, #3) on it SP1003.
https://www.upload.ee/image/13792782/FB_IMG_1642138193234.jpg

That's quite normal I guess. Usually the testing reg. plates are registered on the manufacturer's name not on a particular chassis. There is no need to arrange more of them if they are available.

AnttiL
14th January 2022, 17:41
I think those are temporary plates anyway, you can transfer them from car to another.

TypeR
14th January 2022, 18:24
Actually they aren't. This specific one is registered to 2017 Yaris with certain vin number.
+ no insurance either
But okay, let it be. Testing in closed areas anyway, just a friend from Estonia mentioned it.
https://www.upload.ee/image/13794366/Yariscar.jpg

er88
14th January 2022, 20:08
No Solberg test videos?

gaudino69
14th January 2022, 22:41
Ogier test wrc hybride Monte Carlo 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajyiiHtf4Nw

gaudino69
14th January 2022, 22:46
test Monte Carlo 2022 Takamoto Katsuta BaNzaÏ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWGv-YCNTsg

Andre Oliveira
15th January 2022, 14:47
Actually they aren't. This specific one is registered to 2017 Yaris with certain vin number.
+ no insurance either
But okay, let it be. Testing in closed areas anyway, just a friend from Estonia mentioned it.
https://www.upload.ee/image/13794366/Yariscar.jpg

Wich webstite?

cali
15th January 2022, 16:02
Wich webstite?www.mnt.ee



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Fast Eddie WRC
15th January 2022, 16:35
Epic !

https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/1482291762542612480

dimviii
16th January 2022, 13:10
Loeb today
https://youtu.be/5PsCM9KXhbg


https://twitter.com/DirtFishRally/status/1482702215760523272

EstWRC
16th January 2022, 14:28
Loeb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftmv--ldEns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IubDz0nXrYM

dimviii
16th January 2022, 14:58
Loeb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkvwJgEVwqE&t=3s

dimviii
16th January 2022, 15:10
toksport testing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra4rYALUy-c&t=2s

dimviii
16th January 2022, 18:44
Loeb with glasses
https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/1482784182661173252

EstWRC
17th January 2022, 15:33
Best Of Tests WRC Rallye Monte Carlo 2022 - Hybrid Era [HD]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP1mDteOtHA

spyros
18th January 2022, 09:00
Loeb going very fast at testing, i must rethink my pickems.............

Fast Eddie WRC
18th January 2022, 10:28
Official M-Sport PET video
https://youtu.be/rP3CiqJW4tQ

dimviii
26th January 2022, 13:57
se_rallyWRCFlag of Finland
@se_rally
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49m
Rovanperä has a good testing conditions today thinking about being first on the road in SwedenFlag of Sweden. Fresh snow has been falling down through the day here in Central Finland. #RallySweden #WRC

dimviii
26th January 2022, 18:13
Kalle small clips
https://twitter.com/LPaanala/status/1486393988571713540

https://twitter.com/MKiviaho/status/1486398872423387144

https://twitter.com/autosport/status/1486379129675128840

dimviii
27th January 2022, 14:49
Κalle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oumaqCRPlz4

dimviii
27th January 2022, 15:15
Εvans small clip
https://twitter.com/se_rally/status/1486636591087079431

EstWRC
27th January 2022, 15:17
Evans for Sweden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbYNXErJSq8

EstWRC
27th January 2022, 16:05
Kalle for Sweden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oumaqCRPlz4

er88
27th January 2022, 16:34
Looking and sounding great!

With the extra power and the fact these cars are more difficult to drive, will be interesting to see if we witness more wild moments on the faster events.

dimviii
27th January 2022, 18:52
Evans
https://youtu.be/CqV12ucGZVg

bandit12
28th January 2022, 06:20
Suninen?
https://youtu.be/8HZotRrPa8Q
Is this some old video?
Seems so speeded up also...

Fast Eddie WRC
28th January 2022, 12:43
Am I correct that Hyundai hasn't done any previous testing of the i20 Hybrid in the snow of Swe/Fin ?

AnttiL
28th January 2022, 12:51
Am I correct that Hyundai hasn't done any previous testing of the i20 Hybrid in the snow of Swe/Fin ?

Yes, only snow testing with Monte/tarmac spec. And also none on gravel with the latest iteration.

jiipee64
28th January 2022, 14:35
EP testing today...

https://twitter.com/juha_kantanen/status/1487068572975353865?t=eaPRH17IX3x6w_NFWYjbsQ&s=19

EstWRC
28th January 2022, 15:50
Lappi https://youtu.be/XyaycLsZu7M

satukata
28th January 2022, 18:02
https://youtu.be/4ZBzzJZ2IRU LAPPI

rp
29th January 2022, 17:15
Katsuta today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iATsGIdVFVA

satukata
30th January 2022, 18:05
Katsuta https://youtu.be/1vQsmTNW6g8
https://youtu.be/Vb_TxpKrzE8

EstWRC
2nd February 2022, 08:51
Hyundai with Solberg testing today for Sweden https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1488790045800681472?s=20&t=0S4L2qwPQtNErMDqQRx1Fw

EstWRC
2nd February 2022, 16:14
Solberg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCrnDyJqD70

Hartusvuori
3rd February 2022, 06:45
Photo gallery from Solberg's test day: https://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Rally+Sweden+2022+PET+Solberg/

https://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Rally%20Sweden%202022%20PET%20Solberg/8G1A7693.jpg/_medium.jpg (https://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Rally%20Sweden%202022%20PET%20Solberg/8G1A7693.jpg)

jiipee64
3rd February 2022, 13:40
Tänäk testing today...

https://twitter.com/juha_kantanen/status/1489232111253045255?t=j2tk2ddHlKLNu9kk-dzAyw&s=19

EstWRC
3rd February 2022, 14:48
Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eUayZvzafc

EstWRC
3rd February 2022, 16:28
Tänak https://youtu.be/cyjNPNVspZg

Fast Eddie WRC
3rd February 2022, 23:07
Dirtfish Toyota test compilation plus some onboard & slow-mo's...

https://youtu.be/1bpWHyRCTjU

dimviii
4th February 2022, 16:56
Νeuville
https://youtu.be/xOoewb7rGTQ

Hartusvuori
5th February 2022, 06:39
RALLIRINKI photo gallery from Neuville's test: https://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Rally+Sweden+2022+PET+Neuville/

https://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Rally%20Sweden%202022%20PET%20Neuville/8G1A7760.jpg/_medium.jpg (https://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Rally%20Sweden%202022%20PET%20Neuville/8G1A7760.jpg)

https://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Rally%20Sweden%202022%20PET%20Neuville/3O9A7753.jpg/_medium.jpg (https://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Rally%20Sweden%202022%20PET%20Neuville/3O9A7753.jpg)

TypeR
5th February 2022, 07:15
As Hyundai couldn't build 3 new cars to first rally, they had 1 test car (built after Neuville's crash) + 2 new cars.

I wonder if Tänak was driving the test car in Monte? (engine problems)

Hopefully they can build another new one and don't have to test and race with same car like amateurs..

WRC_Wilzu
5th February 2022, 08:42
Short video from Thierry test

https://youtu.be/yDdLrmDpm80

EstWRC
8th February 2022, 09:33
Hyundai now testing in Sweden with Neuville today https://twitter.com/f_gustavsson/status/1490980510549647367?s=21

dimviii
8th February 2022, 18:36
Neuville
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsK1zufsXd0

EstWRC
9th February 2022, 07:51
Tänak today https://twitter.com/f_gustavsson/status/1491317006700007426?s=21

EstWRC
9th February 2022, 17:38
Oliver watching Tänaks test https://twitter.com/oliversolberg01/status/1491446566045241346?s=21

EstWRC
9th February 2022, 18:51
Tänak https://youtu.be/PS2pEFmWV6Q

henzo
9th February 2022, 20:07
that looks promising

SubaruNorway
9th February 2022, 20:46
Some sketchy rear suspension on these...

https://youtu.be/-dlepy7KuEw

the sniper
9th February 2022, 21:39
Some sketchy rear suspension on these...

https://youtu.be/-dlepy7KuEw

1:30! :|

Sulland
10th February 2022, 07:30
How much has wheel travel shrunk from Wrc17 to Rally1 for gravel set up?

Rallyper
10th February 2022, 08:55
Some sketchy rear suspension on these...

https://youtu.be/-dlepy7KuEw

Too stiff...?

dimviii
10th February 2022, 12:54
Too stiff...?

less travel

EstWRC
10th February 2022, 13:37
Solberg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=128IsrC7soI&feature=youtu.be

SubaruNorway
10th February 2022, 16:11
How much has wheel travel shrunk from Wrc17 to Rally1 for gravel set up?

50mm i think it was

SubaruNorway
10th February 2022, 20:53
Solberg
https://youtu.be/3J_XlS70SQg

Mirek
10th February 2022, 21:42
less travel

Likely combined with not optimal rebound settings. My guess.

EstWRC
11th February 2022, 08:20
Lappi today https://twitter.com/f_gustavsson/status/1492050738385666062?s=21

Evans was yesterday

So Hyundai and Toyota with the same testing program. Both using their permanent location days and then a test in Sweden

AnttiL
11th February 2022, 08:52
I wonder if M-Sport will also do their PET in Sweden

flat_right
11th February 2022, 08:57
I wonder if M-Sport will also do their PET in Sweden

Where else would they do it? I mean the rally is there, so there is no purpose to go to Finland for example.

Andre Oliveira
11th February 2022, 09:42
M-Sport allready tested in Arctic.

EstWRC
11th February 2022, 09:44
M-Sport allready tested in Arctic.

Yes but that was in December already.

er88
11th February 2022, 10:29
Yes but that was in December already.And only with Breen as far as I know

AnttiL
11th February 2022, 11:19
Fourmaux was also there.

I was just wondering are they already "going cheap" and skipping testing in Sweden. Essentially what they did in Northern Finland is equivalent to what Hyundai and Toyota did two weeks ago on their permanent testing locations.

Fast Eddie WRC
11th February 2022, 14:06
Wont M-Sport just do their PET nearer to the event so they just have one travel and stay for the rally ?

Hartusvuori
11th February 2022, 14:45
Fourmaux was also there.

I was just wondering are they already "going cheap" and skipping testing in Sweden. Essentially what they did in Northern Finland is equivalent to what Hyundai and Toyota did two weeks ago on their permanent testing locations.

Didn't they do only two days in Rovaniemi? There's 10 days left to test for the event. All the time they need.

SubaruNorway
11th February 2022, 18:28
Ford is testing in Kall, Østersund i heard

EstWRC
11th February 2022, 19:03
Lappi https://youtu.be/JrYeYSljXl4

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2022, 10:47
Ford is testing in Kall, Østersund i heard

Correct - Fourmaux kicks off M-Sport’s pre-event running in Kall, northern Sweden on Monday.

EstWRC
13th February 2022, 09:54
Kalle https://youtu.be/dH4ZpLvNBMM

EstWRC
14th February 2022, 09:21
Taka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3nRlnNrmUY

rp
16th February 2022, 07:05
Breen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqQfgG80tUQ

EstWRC
16th February 2022, 09:16
Toyota style mirrors now i see

pantealex
16th February 2022, 18:17
Toyota style mirrors now i see

Can they change those for Sweden ?

Don't they have to use same cars than they were using in Monte ?

lluisva555
16th February 2022, 22:03
Can they change those for Sweden ?

Don't they have to use same cars than they were using in Monte ?

Replacement of side mirrors does not require any joker... or at least it was so with the previous cars, so I understand it is still the same.

Fast Eddie WRC
18th February 2022, 19:33
Greensmith at Numedalsrally this weekend as practice for Rally Sweden...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CaHb2YijjoX/?utm_medium=copy_link

https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/73089-numedalsrally-2022/

Fast Eddie WRC
18th February 2022, 21:22
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FL5iRmnWQAQav_K?format=jpg&name=large

EstWRC
22nd March 2022, 12:50
Toyota testing in Sardegna https://twitter.com/kallerovanpera/status/1506243948108525576?s=21

dimviii
24th March 2022, 17:14
WRCWings
@llluis555
Images from today's test on gravel in Sardegna show the Toyota GR Yaris #Rally1 without the prominent side air intakes cover and side mirrors, in what looks like a test of the hybrid unit's cooling system in the worst conditions, while reducing drag #WRClive #WRCliveES #WRCjp


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOoFLyRX0AI82mh?format=jpg&name=900x900

Fast Eddie WRC
24th March 2022, 18:20
Pretty amazing if the Yaris Rally1 can do without those big side air intakes after all (and in the worst conditions of hot and low speed).

matija_1988
1st April 2022, 09:08
Tänak testing today for Croatia rally. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220401/d6b2ee21044e7f45b99445b52d65d439.jpg

EstWRC
1st April 2022, 16:25
Tänak https://youtu.be/xsz9vg-r5xg

matija_1988
1st April 2022, 21:30
What a wonderful day! Me Ott and my father ❤️https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220401/582e9c187e55d6e23aaf7da0cef5a699.jpg

TypeR
2nd April 2022, 08:36
Hyundai seems quite understeering, hopefully can work it out

EstWRC
2nd April 2022, 08:47
Tänak, watch at 10 seconds

https://youtu.be/ICKmT4LVZxk

EstWRC
2nd April 2022, 13:50
Evans for Sardegna https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSqn9yNL_jI

EstWRC
3rd April 2022, 17:49
Solberg for Croatia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj2X5ylDrzc

EstWRC
4th April 2022, 06:45
Solberg https://youtu.be/uRwrWIFurjM

https://youtu.be/LDYqZxK-i7Q

EstWRC
4th April 2022, 16:02
Tänak/Breen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH_Qv0lG9tI
Breen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YhK7cqdV3Y

EstWRC
5th April 2022, 16:19
Evans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APdtxGuLcAY

EstWRC
6th April 2022, 05:25
Gus https://youtu.be/5OjQiu8Z6j4

EstWRC
10th April 2022, 17:37
Lappi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDT-uth7Vkk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyPGqs2yQh4
Kalle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCico_bo6uU
Loubet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLJzgg9dQcM

EstWRC
14th April 2022, 19:15
Nice short clip of Ott having fun when he tested in the beginning of the month https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cb0UTQDD6u4/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

ik1911
18th April 2022, 16:50
Today R5 testing for Croatia!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cc_rc/albums/72177720298204899

Fast Eddie WRC
20th April 2022, 22:48
Rally Croatia - Toksport PET in the wet:

https://youtu.be/sZLRNeZ61WE

Andre Oliveira
27th April 2022, 10:41
Neuville and Wydaeghe today in Portugal

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRV3FDHXoAAa7Es?format=jpg&name=medium

EstWRC
27th April 2022, 10:44
Seems wet, maybe that’s why Ott didn’t want to test ?

Would be interesting to know why he refused

Andre Oliveira
27th April 2022, 14:42
Video:

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/39521-test-hyundai-motorsport-thierry-neuville-hyundai-i20-rally1/

EstWRC
27th April 2022, 15:25
Neuville https://youtu.be/ArRjk6JVQ_o

https://youtu.be/QAXsK2kiUvk

rallyfiend
27th April 2022, 15:36
Any clue why Ott apparently didn't test?

er88
27th April 2022, 18:20
That's a bit of a disaster for Hyundai/ Neuville. Barely any gravel running upto now, no proper running on dusty roads like we normally see in Portugal....

TypeR
27th April 2022, 19:50
I always love such kind of statements without any further proof..
like A. Oliveira..


Hyundai cancelled the PET in Portugal today. Rumours about big discussion with Ott (the driver that was to drive today).

Andre Oliveira
27th April 2022, 21:44
What proof you want? The audio of team? I only said what i listen from a valuable source.

bandit12
28th April 2022, 05:00
What proof you want? The audio of team? I only said what i listen from a valuable source.
Then next time, ask for more info

cali
28th April 2022, 06:47
Then next time, ask for more infoWhy?
I understand the need to know more details but if it isn't given then fine by me. You have to understand that in order to receive more deliquate information sometimes our members need to protect their sources as well.
I count this as a quite rude approach towards very longtime and trustworthy member as Andre is. He is sharing inside information which will not go to larger public so I can't understand the attitude towards him.

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bandit12
28th April 2022, 08:55
Why?
I understand the need to know more details but if it isn't given then fine by me. You have to understand that in order to receive more deliquate information sometimes our members need to protect their sources as well.
I count this as a quite rude approach towards very longtime and trustworthy member as Andre is. He is sharing inside information which will not go to larger public so I can't understand the attitude towards him.

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Indeed. As english is not my first language, i must appologise. I did not mean that as order.
Sorry

wyler
28th April 2022, 09:42
i think the point is when these rumors come out, people would want to know not details, but reasons.
then of course, many time is not really possible to share it...but I first would like to know what's happening...

it's very different between let's say "no point in testing on wet, better reschedule in more useful conditions" or let's say "i don't want to work with these team anymore" (not implying one or the other, just examples)

TypeR
28th April 2022, 12:29
Is Tänak testing today? Neuville did his day yesterday.

Nothing against certain person/member, but..
If the info and source is so secret/delicate, then it wouldn't reach this forum(large public).

Cancelled PET isn't too big inside information.

ESTwrc also asked the reason..

But okay, let it be.

new style mirrors and smaller roof scoop?
https://www.upload.ee/image/14093723/IMG_20220428_145857.jpg

lluisva555
28th April 2022, 15:56
Right about the mirrors: moved forward, lowered and with a new support. But the roof scoop seems the same to me, from the pictures/videos are appearing

EstWRC
28th April 2022, 16:43
Based on Sordos Instagram story it seems it’s his turn tomorrow

SubaruNorway
28th April 2022, 17:49
Did they test this spec of car on gravel before? Maybe Ott didn't want to be the first one to figure things out?

bandit12
29th April 2022, 06:36
Did they test this spec of car on gravel before? Maybe Ott didn't want to be the first one to figure things out?

Or he did not want to test on damp conditions. Because usually Portugal roads are dry and loose

EstWRC
29th April 2022, 06:55
Neuville was also testing yesterday, doesn’t each driver have only one day per rally?

https://youtu.be/HuA6jX4EXe4

https://youtu.be/IWklygnPfro

AnttiL
29th April 2022, 07:09
Yes, should be one day per driver per rally instead of a certain number of test days. Maybe he’s doing Sardinia test now?

EstWRC
29th April 2022, 07:12
Yes, should be one day per driver per rally instead of a certain number of test days. Maybe he’s doing Sardinia test now?

Or Tanaks day was given to him? Is this possible?

AnttiL
29th April 2022, 07:12
Or Tanaks day was given to him? Is this possible?

I think not possible

EstWRC
29th April 2022, 11:00
Another nice one of Thierry with many fast passages https://youtu.be/yp_cmBOQc6g

Hartusvuori
29th April 2022, 12:08
I think not possible

According to the regulations, not possible indeed. Then how is that one additional test day used, I couldn't fully understand it from the regs. Or the Pirelly tyre test day lottery.

EstWRC
30th April 2022, 07:25
Sordo https://youtu.be/eB5C8d5-Gmk

EstWRC
30th April 2022, 09:32
Fourmaux today https://twitter.com/ewrcresults/status/1520317549744959489?s=21&t=mlF5EQlw5TGA9tLB6Cgl-w

EstWRC
30th April 2022, 15:57
Fourmaux https://youtu.be/ta0ImmYOSu0

TypeR
1st May 2022, 05:17
Sordo's car caught a little fire inside the car while testing. Reason unknown, but there was no accident.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/Cc-2-knjKkr/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

EstWRC
1st May 2022, 06:07
Fourmaux

https://youtu.be/rv9kB_6EyaM

https://youtu.be/11A8gun9aU4

https://youtu.be/A2PKuRc7tK8

dimviii
1st May 2022, 16:09
Breen
https://youtu.be/sDjX1DeBrss

TypeR
2nd May 2022, 13:25
Neuville testing again in Portugal?
https://instagram.com/stories/thierryneuville/2828613478251766495?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

What's Tänak doing? Not testing at all..

EstWRC
2nd May 2022, 15:01
Could be also some promotional stuff or test for another rally instead

EstWRC
2nd May 2022, 21:32
Gus https://youtu.be/H1-aeMmC6xU

https://youtu.be/3eByfKvnyq0

Andre Oliveira
3rd May 2022, 00:41
Breen

https://www.ewrc-results.com/photo/77431-m-sport-test-day-with-craig-breen-2022/

Andre Oliveira
3rd May 2022, 00:42
Neuville testing again in Portugal?
https://instagram.com/stories/thierryneuville/2828613478251766495?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

What's Tänak doing? Not testing at all..

Testing in Portalegre, maybe to Safari?

TypeR
3rd May 2022, 09:48
friend said that there was some discussion in Estonian fb rally group and Tänak's PR guy Rump answered that everything goes according to plan and no test has been cancelled (about Portugal).

but maybe he is testing today/tomorrow.

AnttiL
3rd May 2022, 10:18
Could be just postponed because of the weather or getting some part made in the shop.

EstWRC
3rd May 2022, 11:29
Ogier today https://twitter.com/dottorept/status/1521419962153422848?s=21&t=I1fAoEgfy8qyxQxdI7JRjA

Fast Eddie WRC
3rd May 2022, 14:05
Puma tested in Portugal with the hybrid cooling partially blocked ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRwKu8JWQAAgAzE?format=jpg&name=large

EstWRC
3rd May 2022, 17:29
Ogier https://youtu.be/GYHfZII_Lqc

EstWRC
3rd May 2022, 18:56
Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAPv_1vPqaQ

EstWRC
4th May 2022, 08:18
More Ogier

https://youtu.be/t-8BFB88EBQ

https://youtu.be/f2iz3ghPJCI

EstWRC
4th May 2022, 11:12
Loeb today https://twitter.com/hugo_blancher/status/1521791211706662912?s=21&t=2n_JFzsieu3trruCpLj4tA

Fast Eddie WRC
4th May 2022, 14:09
Snow in Finland has limited Toyota and Hyundai gravel testing...

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-unexpected-element-affecting-rally-portugal-preparation/

ouvreur
4th May 2022, 15:18
Snow in Finland has limited Toyota and Hyundai gravel testing...

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-unexpected-element-affecting-rally-portugal-preparation/

I'm not sure how much of an impact this actually had... and how much of an 'insight' this is from Dirtfish...

Why would any team be testing in Finland, and on those sorts of roads, in preparation for Portugal?

They can save their development days (and avoid upsetting the locals and destroying the roads) for when they'll be useful, ahead of Estonia, Finland and NZ.

The smart move, as at least Hyundai seem to have done and Toyota will probably copy, has been to double up the Portugal / Kenya PETs in Portugal. Even if had been bone dry, clear of snow and 15 degrees in Finland, Hyundai and Toyota would still have been busy in south Europe.

TypeR
4th May 2022, 16:11
I'm not sure how much of an impact this actually had... and how much of an 'insight' this is from Dirtfish...

Why would any team be testing in Finland, and on those sorts of roads, in preparation for Portugal?

They can save their development days (and avoid upsetting the locals and destroying the roads) for when they'll be useful, ahead of Estonia, Finland and NZ.

The smart move, as at least Hyundai seem to have done and Toyota will probably copy, has been to double up the Portugal / Kenya PETs in Portugal. Even if had been bone dry, clear of snow and 15 degrees in Finland, Hyundai and Toyota would still have been busy in south Europe.

Toyota and Hyundai have their bases registered to Finland, where they can test as much as they want. Atm snow is making it difficult.

Ofc they want/need to test there, because if the car is fast on Finland roads, it's fast everywhere!

pantealex
4th May 2022, 16:54
There is no snow in Jyväskylä/Jämsä... ;)

but small roads are still too wet/soft for rally testing.

AnttiL
4th May 2022, 16:58
There is no snow in Jyväskylä/Jämsä... ;)

but small roads are still too wet/soft for rally testing.

There's still some snow on forest roads in Tampere, so likely also in Jämsä. But yeah, the main point is that it will take a while for them to dry up for rallying use. It's the same almost every year, we typically have no rallies in Finland from late March to early May.

Another setback for Hyundai, they would now need their permanent base for car developing. The single PET days for individual events don't have enough time for developing new parts.

rp
4th May 2022, 17:54
GOAT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mWwYAwmlfc

Fast Eddie WRC
4th May 2022, 18:23
I'm not sure how much of an impact this actually had... and how much of an 'insight' this is from Dirtfish...

Why would any team be testing in Finland, and on those sorts of roads, in preparation for Portugal?

They can save their development days (and avoid upsetting the locals and destroying the roads) for when they'll be useful, ahead of Estonia, Finland and NZ.

The smart move, as at least Hyundai seem to have done and Toyota will probably copy, has been to double up the Portugal / Kenya PETs in Portugal. Even if had been bone dry, clear of snow and 15 degrees in Finland, Hyundai and Toyota would still have been busy in south Europe.

Read the article. Latvala makes it clear the conditions are worse this year...

“[We are] lucky we’re not developing the new car now. If this situation had happened last year, we’d have been in trouble actually."

Testing abroad is limited so a lot has to be done near the team base.

EstWRC
4th May 2022, 19:36
Loeb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43T7SkeZOOE

EstWRC
5th May 2022, 06:06
Loeb https://youtu.be/aOnPxf122oM

https://youtu.be/b-Aipc4E2Kg
Kalle https://youtu.be/mImr88TsdCk

https://youtu.be/WacZm3cj3BE

https://youtu.be/vh9vMLRty4Q

ouvreur
5th May 2022, 07:16
Read the article. Latvala makes it clear the conditions are worse this year...

“[We are] lucky we’re not developing the new car now. If this situation had happened last year, we’d have been in trouble actually."

Testing abroad is limited so a lot has to be done near the team base.

I read it. The point Latvala is making, is not the apparent overall point of the article.

As he says, they're not developing the car now, they're preparing for Portugal. Hence the title 'The unexpected element affecting Rally Portugal preparation'.

I would bet my life that neither Hyundai nor Toyota would have even turned a wheel in central Finland, even if the weather had been unseasonably warm. The fact it's a bit colder than usual won't have changed a thing. You don't prepare for Portuguese / Kenyan stages in Finland - end of.

The claim that either team has been 'hamstrung' by the weather is a bit insulting to both of them. The gap in the Finnish rally calendar won't have been a surprise to them, and they both work with test organisers with decades of experience on those roads.

Rather than being an 'unexpected element', this will have been planned into the schedule. It has zero impact.

er88
5th May 2022, 08:59
It's just a bad headline by Dirtfish.

But if the conditions were suitable for rallying, you can bet your life Hyundai would've been running the car in Finland as a development test. Don't see why Toyota wouldn't have as well. And these tests would've been on top of the rally Portugal set-up tests.

AnttiL
5th May 2022, 09:35
It's just a bad headline by Dirtfish.

But if the conditions were suitable for rallying, you can bet your life Hyundai would've been running the car in Finland as a development test. Don't see why Toyota wouldn't have as well. And these tests would've been on top of the rally Portugal set-up tests.

For sure. And like we know Hyundai is a bit behind in testing days, especially on gravel, and are looking forward to homologating new parts so they would desperately need these roads soon.

Fast Eddie WRC
5th May 2022, 12:16
Exactly.

You dont rely just on a PET to test and develop a car as each driver needs his day just for set-up and his own practice. Hyundai especially need testing on gravel as they've done little and prioritized tarmac testing for Monte and Croatia at the start of the season.

EstWRC
5th May 2022, 19:01
Loubet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m85538jdFaI
Evans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SmZRGCdsOY

Andre Oliveira
9th May 2022, 10:52
Tänak today

https://www.facebook.com/groups/grupoportuguesderalis/permalink/351340993550653/

EstWRC
9th May 2022, 13:22
Tänak today

https://www.facebook.com/groups/grupoportuguesderalis/permalink/351340993550653/

Couple of pics https://twitter.com/rallydeportugal/status/1523638606409048064?s=21&t=HBUnANziBGrva7OWLWzdpg

EstWRC
9th May 2022, 14:59
Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8jLt083Sxs

EstWRC
9th May 2022, 15:52
Better quality one of Tänak https://youtu.be/5YY4Gu1QoGc

EstWRC
10th May 2022, 06:30
Tänak by CRV https://youtu.be/h7xw53l6-2E

EstWRC
10th May 2022, 17:10
About recent updates that teams tested https://www.wrcwings.tech/2022/05/10/development-of-rally1-cars-continues-ahead-of-rally-portugal/