WRC Testing

[doubled1978]

To me it looked like the electric engine either wasn't on or wasn't properly synchronized with the petrol engine in 3/4 of the hairpin passes. The car turns and then there is a lul before power comes.
Might be that they are also testing different ways (programs) to use the hybrid.

Fourmaux mentioned in the recent interview that FIA hasn't decided on when and how it will be used and wants to make it as unpredictable as possible. That sounds like a really bad idea to me.
The basics rules on when and how it can be used should be decided as soon as possible cause they likely can affect tons of other areas of the car and need much more testing to fine-tune.

At the same time there likely needs to be some strict rules so it doesn't turn into "programmers competition". (at one point some team mentioned they could program when it will be used individually for each stage based on corners/profile ++, that sounds like a recipe for cost explosion.)

I agree, we don’t want it to turn into a programmers competition…I would prefer it’s on the driver to push the button, but I don’t think the FIA want that. At least then it’s a driver controlled strategic option.

[EstWRC]

Fourmaux Hybrid https://youtu.be/wm4vD9VekR4

Hanninen Hybrid https://youtu.be/Ui3oBdm5pD8

[AnttiL]

I agree, we don’t want it to turn into a programmers competition…I would prefer it’s on the driver to push the button, but I don’t think the FIA want that. At least then it’s a driver controlled strategic option.

But as a programmer myself, I want to get involved in the race ;) But seriously, engine and diff mappings are probably also very crucial at the moment, I doubt it will be more complicated than that. And developing software is cheaper than developing mechanical parts.

And when the first news came in about electric boost, my first thought was how great sporting aspect it could be, something to show on the telemetry on TV and compare driver strategies, but for some reason that's not going to happen.

[EstWRC]

https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/241164056_2040731169423348_5527889254090954103_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=Ivwj-2_dylEAX8GSBYe&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=b5930f95fb80f119b5b064b2387a89af&oe=613597B8
https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/241165281_2040732322756566_1927558398280880683_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=0wgYSbsKS3YAX-8MAVJ&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=787c6d34c93262c7c844a286460d0f43&oe=6135C1FB
https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/241157372_2040730506090081_3486247812728978273_n.j pg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=F3KCwbKdWj0AX_mAUWP&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=f42bd1afee762558c266e9191b03a98a&oe=613559BD


credit and more https://www.facebook.com/377417859088029/posts/2040732406089891/?d=n

[EstWRC]

Finally a current active driver is testing the Yaris hybrid. Evans according to this https://twitter.com/noramiladi/status/1433370157016043523?s=21

[mknight]

But as a programmer myself, I want to get involved in the race ;) But seriously, engine and diff mappings are probably also very crucial at the moment, I doubt it will be more complicated than that. And developing software is cheaper than developing mechanical parts.

And when the first news came in about electric boost, my first thought was how great sporting aspect it could be, something to show on the telemetry on TV and compare driver strategies, but for some reason that's not going to happen.

Well I don't get why it just can't be a button either.
Maybe with some "speed limit" that makes it impossible to use above 120 kp/h or something like that.

Then again without gear changes on the steering wheel it might get a bit busy in the cockpit.

[EstWRC]

Yaris Hybrid Day 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb0x9r3aPpw

[EstWRC]

Greensmith with Puma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el1zVXVvvLo

[er88]

Greensmith with Puma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el1zVXVvvLoOh no

[rp]

Greensmith with Puma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el1zVXVvvLo

It was clear that Gus will continue next year. Money talks...

[EstWRC]

oh no, money talks, Gus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RVb793aGdU

[er88]

It was clear that Gus will continue next year. Money talks...If Msport were serious his money would buy a full season in a 4th car.

Msport were prepared to pay and run a driver like Tanak/Evans/Neuville/ Ogier which would've cost millions, so I don't think it looks great if Greensmith is one of the 3 points scorers considering Fourmaux will also be bringing budget.....

Breen/ Fourmaux/ Greensmith doesn't look nearly as strong as Breen, Fourmaux and one of Mikkelsen/Suninen/Lappi etc

[flat_right]

Haven't seen this one here: Breen linked to M-sport rally1 test after Acropolis https://rallyinsight.com/2021/09/02/breen-linked-to-m-sport-rally1-test-after-acropolis-rally/

[mknight]

Haven't seen this one here: Breen linked to M-sport rally1 test after Acropolis https://rallyinsight.com/2021/09/02/breen-linked-to-m-sport-rally1-test-after-acropolis-rally/

That timing makes little sense. Why would he test after Acropolis that he won't drive and before driving for Hyundai in Finland?

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/100001600630868/posts/4644581872271788/?d=n

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-UX6ItWYAgpvL4?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-UX6IsXoAItsqf?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-UX6IuWYAAGHal?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/100063475390745/posts/249793240479854/?d=n

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-UZBDKX0AMifYP?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-UZBDSXsAEGAsw?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-UZBDQXIAgTOJm?format=jpg&name=medium

[EstWRC]

Evans Hybrid by Aa26 https://youtu.be/5IR05Sdv5Co

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://www.facebook.com/100001600630868/posts/4644581872271788/?d=n

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-UX6ItWYAgpvL4?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-UX6IsXoAItsqf?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-UX6IuWYAAGHal?format=jpg&name=medium

Still looks a little strange without any mirrors.

[Danny0405]

I’m not a huge fan of Greensmith but, except Lappi, I’m not sure another driver makes a lot of sense in the third car.
The best (considering Evans and Rovanpera will stay with Toyota) would clearly have been a Lappi-Breen-Fourmaux line-up but, for some reasons, the relations are not good between Lappi and M-Sport. It is the only point that is a pity for me because it would have given three teams with 2 good drivers at least.

Then, considering the current season, I don’t see why it would be better to take Suninen over Greensmith: Suninen has probably more potential but on the current season, except in Arctic, he was not faster than Greensmith and he was less reliable (and both had technical issues so this cannot be a real excuse for Suninen).

And about Mikkelsen, he is not dominant in RC2 (only one win this season in 9 rallyes, counting ERC and WRC) so it is not a no-brainer for a seat in RC1. Personnally, I think it is better to take a young paying driver in the third car who did decent results in RC2 (Greensmith, Gryazin, Bulacia, Loubet) and focus their means to give the best car possible (to help Breen and Fourmaux to achieve results) than hiring an average third driver, in M-Sport situation

[mknight]

And about Mikkelsen, he is not dominant in RC2 (only one win this season in 9 rallyes, counting ERC and WRC) so it is not a no-brainer for a seat in RC1. Personnally, I think it is better to take a young paying driver in the third car who did decent results in RC2 (Greensmith, Gryazin, Bulacia, Loubet) and focus their means to give the best car possible (to help Breen and Fourmaux to achieve results) than hiring an average third driver, in M-Sport situation

He is leading both WRC2 and ERC at same time, cause when needed he can drive at 90% and get a result unlike the likes of Gryazin or Lukyanuk who go full push all the time and end up crashing every second rally or finishing with only massive luck (Lukyanuk in Liepaja and Estonia).
If needed he can also do full push (4/4 Powerstage wins this season, 1 min+ wins in Monte and Monza). Since seemingly abandoning the "full push" approach after crashes in Croatia and Sardinia, he drives very Ogier-like.... the kind of driving that gives titles and not stage wins. Btw. when it comes to age, Mikkelsen is younger than all of Tanak/Neuville/Evans and only 8 months older than Breen.

----

Anyway it all comes down to what MSport (and Ford) want.
If they want to make money and occasionally make headlines (seems like MSports line of business) Fourmaux and 1 fast driver is indeed more than enough.
If they want to have a chance for anything other than last place in manu championship 1 "learning" driver is more than enough. Sometimes even one too many (Toyota in 2020).

Malcolm was full of big ambitions a few months ago, talking about hiring top drivers etc. If it goes down to 1 fast driver (outside of "top4") and Fourmaux + paydriver, it's quite a far cry from that. Probably the only hope for more interesting lineup is that this is not good enough for Ford.


But this is all off-topic in this thread.

[AnttiL]

for some reasons, the relations are not good between Lappi and M-Sport

What makes people assume so? Lappi wasn't able to bring budget for this year, that's why he had to leave the team.



Then, considering the current season, I don’t see why it would be better to take Suninen over Greensmith: Suninen has probably more potential but on the current season, except in Arctic, he was not faster than Greensmith and he was less reliable (and both had technical issues so this cannot be a real excuse for Suninen).

This is ridiculous. Suninen on his worst season is equal to Greensmith on his best season! In Monte Suninen didn't finish a single stage, in Sardegna he was cleaning the road and in Estonia the car was falling apart. Can't really say much from his pace this year. Last year he still got a podium and won a proper stage.

[Danny0405]

This is ridiculous. Suninen on his worst season is equal to Greensmith on his best season! In Monte Suninen didn't finish a single stage, in Sardegna he was cleaning the road and in Estonia the car was falling apart. Can't really say much from his pace this year. Last year he still got a podium and won a proper stage.

The issue is that it is Suninen’s 4th season with the car and he had 37 starts with it (Greensmith 17).
And yes, he didn’t drive a lot but he did the early mistakes in Monte Carlo and Sardinia.
I do not say he is totally lost but, personnally (and I can understand that there are other points of view), between a driver that has shown no real sign of improvement in 4 years and who is doing his worst year (+ not reliable) so far, and a driver who has shown some improvement in the last rallies (even if, as I said, I’m quite cautious as I’m clearly not a huge fan of Greensmith), I can understand the choice on Greensmith or to be more precise, the choice of letting Suninen go. But for sure, if you add the money aspect, it is way clearer.

About Mikkelsen, I do not say he is awful in RC2 as he is leading both championships at the moment (with a race more in both however) and he is probably better than Greensmith. But at the moment, between him and Ostberg, it is quite the same level so it is not a no-brainer to take him. But a part-time deal between the RC2 (to help M-Sport to come back at a better level as Citroen did with Ostberg) and the Rally1 car could be interesting for both.


To come back on the testing topic, it seems Rovanpera is also testing the Toyota hybrid this week according to Dirtfish

[Allez Andruet]

Come on now, Mikkelsen and Suninen are lightyears ahead of Greensmith when talking about potential and talent. No offence to Greensmith, but if we're talking about "traditional" factory seats, he shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as those two.

[EstWRC]

Evans Hybrid https://youtu.be/OFJG7yYHxuY
Kalle Hybrid https://youtu.be/7kwunLf7qBE

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Can we separate the 2022 Rally 1 car testing from the 2021 PET's and put posts in the thread below:

https://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?41483-Rally1-hybrid-cars-(2022-)

[EstWRC]

Why?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Why?

Save having to look in two places for the latest info on the 2022 cars.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Toksport PET for Acropolis looking busy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-gobx4WYAEB2ol?format=jpg&name=large

Ingram also with them now:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-gb9nZXsAYT-6P?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-gb_MoWQAEki2N?format=jpg&name=large

[EstWRC]

Save having to look in two places for the latest info on the 2022 cars.

this is testing thread and on that thread theres more like articles and it isnt that active.

+ the current gen. cars will be testing only till november and after that they are done....so we would have to come back again to this thread with the hybrid cars.

thats why i write Puma or Yaris Hybris when i post so people could see the difference.

[rp]

No need to separate testing threads! Exactly how EstWRC wrore....

[mknight]

The 2 day testing Mikkelsen did in Sardinia with Pirelli this week was with Tuohinos Fiesta WRC on tarmac.

Likely Pirelli has some upgrades before Spain. 2 day testing sounds quite excessive ( and expensive), not quite sure what Pirelli gains from it tbh.

Mikkelsen says the Fiesta turns great on tarmac.
Note that he has 2017 Polo, 2017 C3 (great), 2017-2018 Hyundai (terrible) and 2019 C3 (bad) as reference:

https://youtu.be/IZrybaUbcVc


MSport was testing with Puma on gravel at same time. I'd guess this was coordinated for spare parts/mechanics reasons. Last time right before Sardinia they had to get parts from MSport in the service park when something broke.

I do wonder how this works with the test day limits for MSport. Does it count towards them or not? MSport uses only minimum of test days for the current car this year, but they seem to be using a lot on the Puma, so they might run low in the end.

[dimviii]

Athanasoulas was testing today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-i8mG_XEAIpJhI?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-i8mG5WEAAckdE?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-i8mHAWQAM8nSi?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-i8mG5WYAIUEzZ?format=jpg&name=medium

[dimviii]

Panagiotis Hatzitsopanis also tested today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-i8K62XoAQQkSm?format=jpg&name=medium

[Fast Eddie WRC]

this is testing thread and on that thread theres more like articles and it isnt that active.

+ the current gen. cars will be testing only till november and after that they are done....so we would have to come back again to this thread with the hybrid cars.

thats why i write Puma or Yaris Hybris when i post so people could see the difference.

So when you just posted 'Evans' and 'Kalle' and a YT link how do I know if its a 2021 PET or a 2022 test ?

New era cars should use a new thread.

[EstWRC]

corrected for you, really sorry

god what a problems

[Fast Eddie WRC]

This isnt personal mate.... but you have posted 2022 Hybrid car test clips in the other thread before.

[er88]

This is a thread that most people click on to see testing vids and photos...., and it's filled with current wrc car tests, R5 tests, and hybrid tests. Not sure what the issue is.

[EstWRC]

Oliver Solberg Pre Event Test - WRC Acropolis Rally Greece by Dirtfish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3u7nyXPNaM

[satukata]

All test videos in same plase please!

[EstWRC]

Compilation of Hybrid cars testing in Finland by Teevoman https://youtu.be/vAVb0iWuOYM

[EstWRC]

he is back, Lappi testing with Yaris for this years Rally Finland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UMPVKvJzoM

[Vaggelis27]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpkP7tIjZFc&ab_channel=Vpap Oliver Solberg PET before Acropolis Rally

[EstWRC]

i20 hybrid testing today in France on tarmac , updates through planetemarcus https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1438014171849842689?s=20

[EstWRC]

looking good, Neuville today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_TzfXCXEAUJE2I?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_TzfXEXIAAJDaw?format=jpg&name=large

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_T27eDXMAEFvWm?format=jpg&name=large

[BigWorm]

Have to say I like the looks of it alot. Very aggresive.

[EstWRC]

Couple of clips https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1438062990373359619?s=21

https://twitter.com/burgrid16/status/1438055690484998146?s=21

[mknight]

- Still seemingly smallest cooling ducts in the rear
- More importantly clearly least aero of all 3 cars. Puma has the huge front splitter for front-end downforce, Toyota has the shaped front fenders and also ran the crazy rake angle on last test which will increase front downforce.
Obviously this is likely not the final aero of the car.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_UTpNpXIAEbkGK?format=jpg&name=large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

- Still seemingly smallest cooling ducts in the rear
- More importantly clearly least aero of all 3 cars. Puma has the huge front splitter for front-end downforce, Toyota has the shaped front fenders and also ran the crazy rake angle on last test which will increase front downforce.
Obviously this is likely not the final aero of the car.

There's a seperate thread to discuss the new cars as they are tested and developed:

https://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?41483-Rally1-hybrid-cars-(2022-)&p=1282959#post1282959

[Mirek]

Have to say I like the looks of it alot. Very aggresive.

To me it reminds the delta ECV (except from the rear). I still don't like it though :)

[EstWRC]

Neuville with hybrid i20 https://youtu.be/ORT1x_MdfzY

Nice clip https://twitter.com/plan_soli/status/1438122657011191812?s=21

[BigWorm]

To me it reminds the delta ECV (except from the rear). I still don't like it though :)

Very different headlights ;) But the diffuser almost looks like a rocket, they will be hoping it goes like one...

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/100063443216092/posts/250089050449200/?d=n

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_VwS5IX0AQ0xOw?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_VwS5IXIAYvj5W?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_VwS5IWEAMfrWk?format=jpg&name=medium

[spyros]

Its fast maybe a bit slower than a wrc but not like R5.

[EstWRC]

Solbergs turn after Neuville https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1438858972476411911?s=21

I have to say there’s been not much material after two days by Neuville compared to previous weeks by Toyota and Ford, no wonder that some think they are not testing

[doubled1978]

Solbergs turn after Neuville https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1438858972476411911?s=21

I have to say there’s been not much material after two days by Neuville compared to previous weeks by Toyota and Ford, no wonder that some think they are not testing

Corner looks familiar…did Kubica go off there in Alsace rally?

[ouvreur]

Corner looks familiar…did Kubica go off there in Alsace rally?

The very same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MZtYKu9dA0

Well remembered!

[EstWRC]

Solberg i20 hybrid https://youtu.be/-afKN9XvzjQ

[EstWRC]

Thierry i20 hybrid https://youtu.be/wGKj6bcaFlQ

[denkimi]

Solbergs turn after Neuville https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1438858972476411911?s=21

I have to say there’s been not much material after two days by Neuville compared to previous weeks by Toyota and Ford, no wonder that some think they are not testing
That's testing, but not for development of the car, but for solberg.

Weird, not to say ridiculous.

[EstWRC]

Neuville/Solberg i20 hybrid https://youtu.be/PFk4T9Ve7P4

[er88]

Neuville/Solberg i20 hybrid https://youtu.be/PFk4T9Ve7P4Looks good. But what is going on in Solbergs test with the launch control/ start? Full revs and then it like cuts out or something

[EstWRC]

Corner looks familiar…did Kubica go off there in Alsace rally?

Solberg followed it seems https://fb.watch/85QrXk7ZGe/

[EstWRC]

Clip of Tänak testing for Finland today https://twitter.com/hautamakitimo/status/1439500777270173696?s=21

[satukata]

Clip of Tänak testing for Finland today https://twitter.com/hautamakitimo/status/1439500777270173696?s=21 https://youtu.be/YTJbrL76lZQ

[EstWRC]

Solberg i20 hybrid https://youtu.be/tl69WdA0It0

[EstWRC]

Tänak for Finland https://youtu.be/Szp2ETvcBWw

[AnttiL]

Kicking myself for not going to Tänak's test today. I had the chance to go at 14:30, and I have 1,5 hour drive to Ouninpohja, but I didn't want to risk the situation that they would quit the test at 16:00 and I would drive 200 km for nothing...turns out in the end they drove until 18:00 so I could have seen two hours of action...anyway it was my own choice not to take the "risk".

[EstWRC]

Always take risks!

Another Tänak by Teevoman https://youtu.be/FvJkEnXMurI

Don’t get confused by the hybrid clips at the end. Those are from June for comparison with today

[EstWRC]

One more of Ott by nettirabbi https://youtu.be/DMMETlHnI8s

[satukata]

https://youtu.be/PBd99AdhpWg Neuville today

[EstWRC]

Meeke with 2022 Skoda in Finland https://youtu.be/Ah6CS4Ua6Io

Neuville for Finland https://youtu.be/9uf5cVXXm6c

[EstWRC]

Neuville flaatt ouuutt for Finland by Teevoman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aijqbD3ot2s

[cali]

I hate when they speed up the vids, looks unnatural and clumsy.

Sent from my GM1913 using Tapatalk

[Thousandlakes]

I feel the same. Speeded up videos annoying me a lot. Luckily there is not so many.

[SubaruNorway]

I hate when they speed up the vids, looks unnatural and clumsy.

Sent from my GM1913 using Tapatalk

Sometimes 60fps can look like that because you see shaking better, i've always used 24 and 25 except for 60 on Rally X Nordic 2019.
Right click and stats for nerds, no one is speeding them up for sure :)
Even movies are in 24fps like Mission Impossible, high fps is not always the best.

[EstWRC]

Breen for Finland https://youtu.be/krRYLukE7HM

https://youtu.be/3gJFLQLksRw

https://youtu.be/pwPPmCgmC7c

https://youtu.be/W09uBmBr-Hg

[spyros]

Breen for Finland https://youtu.be/krRYLukE7HM

https://youtu.be/3gJFLQLksRw

https://youtu.be/pwPPmCgmC7c

https://youtu.be/W09uBmBr-Hg

Breen definetly on the podium.

[the sniper]

Sometimes 60fps can look like that because you see shaking better, i've always used 24 and 25 except for 60 on Rally X Nordic 2019.
Right click and stats for nerds, no one is speeding them up for sure :)
Even movies are in 24fps like Mission Impossible, high fps is not always the best.

The thing I find odd is how particularly noticeable and jarring 60fps is on rally videos, maybe because we're just so used to seeing these cars on the edge, you know that what you're seeing is unnatural in exceeding that.

[cali]

Sometimes 60fps can look like that because you see shaking better, i've always used 24 and 25 except for 60 on Rally X Nordic 2019.
Right click and stats for nerds, no one is speeding them up for sure :)
Even movies are in 24fps like Mission Impossible, high fps is not always the best.Thanks mate! So the 60fps is the enemy then :)

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk

[EstWRC]

Katsuta for Finland https://youtu.be/eTGcoeYNfTg

https://youtu.be/_UJYMrANThE

https://youtu.be/pwbIYPhGs9o

[satukata]

https://youtu.be/hkUPvbjwfDo Kalle Rovanperä today! Speed was nice. But Hyundai tests were very strong too

[mknight]

I guess only 3 days left for people to test and raining today (advantage or disadvantage?).

Anyway still haven't seen these:
- Ogier and Evans ( one of them today, one tomorrow I guess, continuing from Katsuta and Rovanpera).
- MSport
- Suninen
- Østberg
- Solberg and Huttunen

[EstWRC]

Kalle for his home rally https://youtu.be/ryKuJ5HGk2U

https://youtu.be/qDmfXlMVZeo


Btw its Lappis turn today

[AnttiL]

- Suninen

He already did a some sort of test event with the Polo. Most WRC2/3 crews likely do their test on the common test day the Monday of rally week.

Ogier and Evans are bigger questions, I'd say.

[mknight]

I only saw Gryazin pics.
Maybe mostly wondering about the new Hyundai Rally2 , since they likely have least experience setting it up.

[satukata]

I guess only 3 days left for people to test and raining today (advantage or disadvantage?).

Anyway still haven't seen these:
- Ogier and Evans ( one of them today, one tomorrow I guess, continuing from Katsuta and Rovanpera).
- MSport
- Suninen
- Østberg
- Solberg and Huttunen

Suninen was on thursday.

Lappi was today

evans tomorrow and ogier monday

Msport no test for rally finland

östberg, solberg and huttunen still to come

[TypeR]

Gryazin doing local rally for testing

[EstWRC]

Lappi today https://youtu.be/2arbo0yiQfw

https://youtu.be/V2KDP8UUMfc

[AnttiL]

Helmetcam footage of Rovanperä in the dark

https://twitter.com/TGR_WRC/status/1441797609149042692

Apparently Hyundai didn't test in the dark at all...

[rp]

Lappi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCO_AAz8eP8

[satukata]

https://youtu.be/RxO2xAwfrhY EVANS today

[EstWRC]

Evans https://youtu.be/z-0C757N22E

https://youtu.be/055gTK6_MQo

[mknight]

https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1442371889486172166

Suninen, Pietarinen and Huttunen

Solberg testing for himself? (haven't seen anything). Haven't seen Østberg either.

[TypeR]

https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1442371889486172166

Suninen, Pietarinen and Huttunen

Solberg testing for himself? (haven't seen anything). Haven't seen Østberg either.
Solberg testing today. Check instagram

[TypeR]

Huttunen
https://www.upload.ee/image/13505072/FB_IMG_1632748118549.jpg

[AnttiL]

Huttunen
https://www.upload.ee/image/13505072/FB_IMG_1632748118549.jpg

Picture not visible but Finnish forum says he rolled the car.

[mknight]

Ohh jeez, hope he can start. Might be very difficult with new car. I guess he can get the teambosses one in worst case (Vlcek).

EDIT: Vlcek is entered with old car. I guess in worst case he can switch car when it's same class.

[EstWRC]

according to this account its the same place where Paddon rolled https://twitter.com/alekslesk/status/1442484052997537795?s=20

[Rallyper]

Picture not visible but Finnish forum says he rolled the car.

Wheels in right direction is good...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FATi7yeXsAgy92J?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

seems not so big damage

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FATl9snUUAkKLRg?format=jpg&name=large

[satukata]

https://youtu.be/NdyTWFs1sGA

WRC2 today. solberg suninen.....

[satukata]

https://youtu.be/XobfMUIJp3I Ogier today.

[satukata]

more wrc 2 test tomorrow... suninen gryazin östberg solberg. huttunen?

[mknight]

more wrc 2 test tomorrow... suninen gryazin östberg solberg. huttunen?

Afaik only Østberg didn't test yet. Gryazin had both a test and 2nd place in a two day Finnish rally (behind Lindholm on MRFs).

[Extremrallye]

Back from Finland for PET 2021 :

Taka :
https://youtu.be/uxrGb6E4SQw

Kalle :
https://youtu.be/N14r9UxMf5o
Itw Kalle : https://fb.watch/8iQd65VLCg/

Lappi :
https://youtu.be/98I2I2ywqCI
Itw Lappi : https://fb.watch/8iQgwrTSYN/

Evans :
https://youtu.be/5xFtLzvqq9w

[Andre Oliveira]

Tänak today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBA19sgUUAUmMng?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBA196pWEAAEhRz?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBA1-fnVUBER-9C?format=jpg&name=large

[EstWRC]

again? he was testing yesterday, i have seen clips today sayin its Neuville, plus Thierry posting a pic in IG story

[Andre Oliveira]

Katsuta yesterday

https://twitter.com/access_remember/status/1445345362181599232?s=21

Evans today

https://twitter.com/access_remember/status/1445712443343204358?s=21

[Andre Oliveira]

again? he was testing yesterday, i have seen clips today sayin its Neuville, plus Thierry posting a pic in IG story

My bad. Yesterday yes.

[TypeR]

Hyundai testing with brand new car (again)

[EstWRC]

Neuville for Spain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR6qKaOPAUE

[EstWRC]

Neuville for spain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7CkK_9-_tU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6IvWpYbGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV5KtobJeG4
Evans for spain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmjlMivA_YQ

[rp]

Ogier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVwP2bCUr7M

[EstWRC]

Ogier https://youtu.be/xCuBgr-mzSs
Sordo https://youtu.be/BFtmCzV25Us
Tänak/Katsuta https://youtu.be/bsR0Xtp_bcE

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Toksport PET for Spain, incl drone & big jumps.

https://youtu.be/BWR0b6DmVx0

[Mirek]

Toksport PET for Spain, incl drone & big jumps.

https://youtu.be/BWR0b6DmVx0

2:39 Lindholm's landing on the jump is an epitome of an absolute perfection in suspension settings.

[mknight]

Why are they testing on jumps? Did I miss something about the route?

[dimviii]

2:39 Lindholm's landing on the jump is an epitome of an absolute perfection in suspension settings.

like a cat

[Andre Oliveira]

Loeb with Ford Puma Rally1 today

https://twitter.com/revistascratch/status/1450472304836755468?s=21

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCEeaOFWYAUAZNe?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Mirek]

Loeb with Ford Puma Rally1 today

https://twitter.com/revistascratch/status/1450472304836755468?s=21

Do they really have ALS or do I hear wrong?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loeb with Ford Puma Rally1 today

https://twitter.com/revistascratch/status/1450472304836755468?s=21

Good to help develop the car but I dont see him doing more than the odd rally. Monte Carlo maybe great publicity but its so soon after his Dakar drive.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://twitter.com/lluis6/status/1450517201606299660?s=21

[Andre Oliveira]

Video by Sempre al Tall

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/36828-test-ford-puma-rally-1-hybrid-wrc-2022-m-sport-ford-sebastien-loeb-by-sempre-al-tall/

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/36828-test-ford-puma-rally-1-hybrid-wrc-2022-m-sport-ford-sebastien-loeb-by-sempre-al-tall/

[Mirek]

I'm surprised by myself but I like it.

[dimviii]

I'm surprised by myself but I like it.

yes its not bad at all.

passatsdecanto video
https://youtu.be/iP9MRTxVBBg

[Andre Oliveira]

https://youtu.be/IB3ZlxF4etU

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCGENJpWYAIoceu?format=jpg&name=large

[Mackie]

The Puma is looking good! Composed and changes direction fairly well, some understeer though...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCGdSRUWQAUz4iK?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCGdSRMXsAYxiao?format=jpg&name=large

[Andre Oliveira]

Today, Loeb and Breen

Pics by JAS Info Service

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCJ7c6zWYAQDkqK?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCJ7edUWEAMlTyu?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCJ7edtWEAE6FAi?format=jpg&name=large

[Andre Oliveira]

Breen by Passats de Canto

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/36856-test-craig-breen-ford-puma-wrc-hybrid-2022-passats-de-canto/

[Andre Oliveira]

Breen and Nagle

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCKzGWTWEAEIh8D?format=jpg&name=large

[Andre Oliveira]

Breen by Sempre al Tall

https://youtu.be/pDk0tsitQI0

[Andre Oliveira]

Loeb by FTT-Rally

https://youtu.be/KapOP9ZxN9c

[Andre Oliveira]

Loeb by RUM RALLY UG

https://youtu.be/8Y-3ZnEWEGs

[Andre Oliveira]

Breen by Video Racing Channel

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/36871-2022-wrc-test-craig-breen-msport-ford-puma-rally1-hybrid/

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCT8mJaXIAIK-2U?format=jpg&name=large

[Andre Oliveira]

Gravel time to Breen and Nagle

Video by Passats de Canto

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/36879-gravel-test-craig-breen-ford-puma-wrc-hybrid-2022-passats-de-canto/

Pic of Breen

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCU5idVWEAY7ASW?format=jpg&name=large

Pic of wrcwings

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCU8VMqWEAgtPrU?format=jpg&name=large

[EstWRC]

Seems like he was told “go and see how much the car can take”

Great to watch these last vids. Some people in Estonian forum still think they will be only as fast as R5…

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCVMw9nWUAgYol0?format=jpg&name=medium

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen gravel test by Sempre al Tall
https://youtu.be/CzJ2VS2F8-k

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Some people in Estonian forum still think they will be only as fast as R5…

They may not be as fast as the 17 cars (so I’ve been told) but it certainly looks fast enough.

Rich Millener @richmillener
Fear not. It will be fast enough.

[cali]

Seems like he was told “go and see how much the car can take”

Great to watch these last vids. Some people in Estonian forum still think they will be only as fast as R5…I still recommend not to read estonian forum or at least not take anything very seriously what's written there :)

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[TypeR]

That Puma looks really nose heavy.. If they all are and stay the same, we might see a lot of crashes..
Should be more stable..

[doubled1978]

That Puma looks really nose heavy.. If they all are and stay the same, we might see a lot of crashes..
Should be more stable..

I disagree, I think the car looks to have a much better and stable rear end than the current Fiesta. It squares up well and drives forward on power and doesn’t seem to over pitch or over rotate off power, my initial impression is this will give the drivers more confidence, certainly on gravel.
Might struggle with understeer on tarmac, but then so might the others as they won’t have the centre diff to tune like this year.

[Andre Oliveira]

Pic of Carlos Martín

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCX_a0YWUBETCxb?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCYHzJWWUAAlG8V?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCYHzJXWUAI_L9G?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCYHzJXXoAAzi3C?format=jpg&name=large

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCYHzJYWYAIn2jx?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCYH4E_XEAIjkQ6?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCYH4E-XsAoQEaI?format=jpg&name=large

[cali]

I disagree, I think the car looks to have a much better and stable rear end than the current Fiesta. It squares up well and drives forward on power and doesn’t seem to over pitch or over rotate off power, my initial impression is this will give the drivers more confidence, certainly on gravel.
Might struggle with understeer on tarmac, but then so might the others as they won’t have the centre diff to tune like this year.I think TypeR meant that the car lands nose first after jumps but this could have many factors causing it.


But yes, in the videos the Puma lands on his nose very often

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

It looks strange over the jumps, even small ones. The extra weight must be a factor, but at the same time it seems to continue without it causing a problem to the driver.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRCWings:
No.... The stage surface was very irregular, with many potholes causing such unbalance, we'll have to wait for a more smooth terrain.

[macebig]

Front aero is still W.I.P on the Puma. They are using a different bumper this time with higher sidewalls (visible from the Ford logos on the sides not aligning). Let's wait for the final homologation before jumping into conclusions.

[becher]

It looks a bit like a Group A car over the bumps doesn't it?

[dimviii]

It looks a bit like a Group A car over the bumps doesn't it?

less suspension travel

[steve.mandzij]

It looks a bit like a Group A car over the bumps doesn't it?which IMO will make them excellent to watch (and perhaps better than the current cars)

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[becher]

less suspension travel Thought the same, not sure I like it. It doesn't look impressive what so ever.

[Andre Oliveira]

Pics of Carlos Martín

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCZ59H8XoAkFHj_?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCZ59H8XoAcQ6Sw?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCZ59H-WQAE_O2D?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCZ6dcDXIAQCP_s?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCZ6db8XIAclGZn?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCZ6dcAWYAACDWi?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

Day 2 of Breen and Nagle by Passats de Canto

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/36912-gravel-test-2-craig-breen-ford-puma-wrc-hybrid-2022-passats-de-canto/

[Andre Oliveira]

Breen and Nagle by Racing Bits

https://youtu.be/DbX0VvKkBM4

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCaSqy5XIAADN5E?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

Neuville and Wydaeghe

Pics by Traxx

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCdzGOyWUA4jbf6?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCdzGOqXMAAkA5R?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCdzGO1XsAIhM3H?format=jpg&name=large

[Andre Oliveira]

Breen and Nagle by Sempre al Tall

https://youtu.be/lT5zxg7E6D0

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Better quality by Traxx

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCeOFvjWEAAdOpp?format=jpg&name=large

[EstWRC]

Neuville with i20 hybrid https://youtu.be/izq1F8rgIFY

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCe2E28XoAEv1G3?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCfwUctXoA0BJXY?format=jpg&name=large

[Jakem]

Tanak with I20 hybrid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09OZQvtmhPU

[TypeR]

I wonder how much room does the hybrid system take away?
Will there be room for 2 spares next season?

[rallyfiend]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCfwUctXoA0BJXY?format=jpg&name=large

When do we start getting worried that they're still only just running a current car with the hybrid system in it?

Seems to be getting very late. Are they that much behind?!

[ouvreur]

When do we start getting worried that they're still only just running a current car with the hybrid system in it?

Seems to be getting very late. Are they that much behind?!

That's pretty clearly not a current car.

[rallyfiend]

That's pretty clearly not a current car.

If you watch the video you can clearly see it's not a new car because it still has the old-style rollcage in it.

The new car has the new doublehoop that envelopes the driver....

This car is just a mongrel old car with some new headlights....

[spyros]

its clear that the new cars are slower, alot i can say.The youngers will adapt quiker.

[ouvreur]

If you watch the video you can clearly see it's not a new car because it still has the old-style rollcage in it.

The new car has the new doublehoop that envelopes the driver....

This car is just a mongrel old car with some new headlights....

"Some new headlights"? I must be missing something, but that's pretty clearly not some repurposed i20 Coupe - the bodywork is completely different, and it's wearing a registration plate never seen before in WRC for Hyundai. If registering a car in Germany is as tough as I am informed it is, that won't be some half-assed job - that will be a 2022 test car. the fact a grainy thumbnail (no disrespect) seems to show a strange roll cage isn't going to persuade me otherwise...

[EstWRC]

https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/248582910_3757229917836454_1982414866925476546_n.j pg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=MC_xBQcF6gEAX-Aaoee&tn=qE28KoA_uY94NMt6&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=99fed8c1c5e44671e4f95b26997f4527&oe=617D47FA
https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/249227412_3757229837836462_8386934027252467025_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=7FZjRM0rSqoAX8rB22W&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=180224252a0b55c9740ed7dd6909b2f5&oe=617C5697

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It's still a test mule with some basic new bodywork but not the full detail and aero that is due in the next few weeks. Adamo told them to concentrate on the running gear for now.

[er88]

its clear that the new cars are slower, alot i can say.The youngers will adapt quiker.They don't to me. Maybe in very slow and twisty sections, it is perhaps a bit more noticeable. However in fast sections they are clearly still quick and should be just as spectacular to watch stageside, as with less aero and less advanced suspension they will be harder to drive.

I think the top drivers will notice a difference much more than any spectator will - especially while testing as they are still jumping from the current cars straight into these rally1 test mules. Ofcourse they have to adapt.

The cars sound superb, aren't anywhere near R5 type slow, and still look aggressive to me despite the not as advanced aero. They will only get quicker and quicker over the next 3yrs.

[Mirek]

If registering a car in Germany is as tough as I am informed it is, that won't be some half-assed job - that will be a 2022 test car.

Only a little note to this. I guess that Germany, like many other countries, has an exception for car manufacturers to use plates not registred to particular chassis numbers. Of course normal people can not do that but manufacturers usually have such plates registred only on a company name and used purely for testing purposes.

[EstWRC]

Dirtfish will be following this weeks Hyundai rally1 test https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/gearing-up-for-hyundais-unique-rally1-test/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Dirtfish will be following this weeks Hyundai rally1 test https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/gearing-up-for-hyundais-unique-rally1-test/

Surprising after being so quiet that Hyundai are now doing a 'full rally simulation' Rally1 test with Dirtfish there to report it.

Maybe they are upset with M-Sport getting all the publicity with the Puma, Breen and Loeb...

[logic]

Surprising after being so quiet that Hyundai are now doing a 'full rally simulation' Rally1 test with Dirtfish there to report it.

Maybe they are upset with M-Sport getting all the publicity with the Puma, Breen and Loeb...

Or maybe they were actually doing a lot of testing and not for the public to see.

[AnttiL]

So experts on this forum say Hyundai is just running a mule which is "current car with new headlights", and Dirtfish says they're already doing a "full rally simulation"...well, DF story could also be just paid propaganda to assure audience that everything is fine, but I don't believe in that personally...

[Tom K]

DirtFish it's not the only media invited for the "event".

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Or maybe they were actually doing a lot of testing and not for the public to see.

There's only so much testing you can do in a private facility. You need real roads pretty soon to find out more.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So experts on this forum say Hyundai is just running a mule which is "current car with new headlights", and Dirtfish says they're already doing a "full rally simulation"...well, DF story could also be just paid propaganda to assure audience that everything is fine, but I don't believe in that personally...

Adamo said the full new car will be ready late Oct / early Nov. But this clearly isnt it.

You'd think they'd wait until that car test to invite the media.

[TypeR]

lol.. yes, it's the end of Oct and Hyundai is testing with current car :D

Maybe it is even the old Accent underneath the new body..

[ouvreur]

Adamo said the full new car will be ready late Oct / early Nov. But this clearly isnt it.

You'd think they'd wait until that car test to invite the media.

Without even looking at a calendar, I'm pretty confident it's late October...

Y'know, it is possible (believe it or not) that, every now and again, public figures make slightly misleading statements about how far along their cars are in the development process...

[EstWRC]

Looks so tiny

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCtkFEiWQAI9HQE?format=jpg&name=medium

[Lancia Stratos]

Without even looking at a calendar, I'm pretty confident it's late October...

Y'know, it is possible (believe it or not) that, every now and again, public figures make slightly misleading statements about how far along their cars are in the development process...

Surely not.....What? You mean the team that was the first to order its hybrid parts might be further along with its development than has been suggested? Surely, surely not......

[EstWRC]

Matton is also present https://twitter.com/yves_matton/status/1453418066159808520?s=21

[TypeR]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyundai-in-car-heat-will-be-challenge-for-all-rally1-crews/

“The exhaust is just passing on the right side of our legs in all new cars, so for Toyota and Ford it’s the same, and this is causing some massive heat,” Wydaeghe said.

“Now we are almost in winter time so it’s quite cold outside, but if you go to Portugal or Sardinia or Kenya it will be a big challenge.

“But we have good engineers and I’m sure we can find some solutions for that, I hope.”

Järveoja added: “I think the heat will be quite difficult in the hot rallies.

“Today when we are testing it’s quite cold outside but in the car it’s already quite hot, so let’s see.”

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So after all the hype from DF about being at the rally simulation test, and to keep glued to theiir social media & website, this is all they report after day one...

[EstWRC]

Same hairpin, hybrid vs wrc https://www.instagram.com/reel/CVi4HgdNWZ-/?utm_medium=copy_link

[bandit12]

So after all the hype from DF about being at the rally simulation test, and to keep glued to theiir social media & website, this is all they report after day one...
So what did you expect?
Msport style screenshots from messenger conversations?

[EstWRC]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211028/c1bf4ee3232d2ad02250a63b82f66743.jpg

[EstWRC]

Tänak in the dark yesterday with rally1 https://youtu.be/dgEjwsoY0xQ

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Finally words ftom a driver (Neuville)...

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/some-of-neuvilles-rally1-concerns-have-cleared-up/

[AnttiL]

So what did you expect?
Msport style screenshots from messenger conversations?

Adamo: How are you enjoying the new car?
Järveoja: My feet don't fit in, the seat position is not good
Adamo: OK.

Adamo: How are you enjoying the new car?
Wydaghe: It's too hot in here, the exhaust is too close to my feet
Adamo: OK.

Adamo: How are you enjoying the new car?
Neuville: Tell Yves that I want to keep driving my old car, hybrids are the wrong decision
Adamo: OK.

Adamo: How are you enjoying the new car?
Tänak: I don't give a s**t
Adamo: OK.

[TypeR]

whining doesn't give anything anymore. Rules are set and whether they like them or not they have Rally Monte-Carlo in 2.5 months time.
Say it once that you don't like it and go on with the work to get the best possible result in remaining time..

[EstWRC]

Pics of some week ago Hyundai Rally1 test on gravel https://twitter.com/ewrcresults/status/1453696059906080770?s=21

[EstWRC]

There's only so much testing you can do in a private facility. You need real roads pretty soon to find out more.

You wanted all the hybrid car discussions to be in the Rally1 hybrid cars (2022-) thread but somehow you have missed my post there a month ago ;)



In an interview with Auto Hebdo , the transalpine official explained that, despite not seeing so much news of Hyundai tests, they are working. "By the time of the Acropolis Rally we already had four tests done on asphalt" , he assured.

He acknowledged discretion in testing, "We test, but it's not to show in press releases. It seems to me that our competitors are very interested in showing their cars on social media."


https://iris-cpidt-pt.translate.goog/publishing20/!site.go?publishing=332&p=.20055&id=61119&_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=et&_x_tr_pto=nui,elem

[pantealex]

Adamo: How are you enjoying the new car?
Järveoja: My feet don't fit in, the seat position is not good
Adamo: OK.

Adamo: How are you enjoying the new car?
Wydaghe: It's too hot in here, the exhaust is too close to my feet
Adamo: OK.

Adamo: How are you enjoying the new car?
Neuville: Tell Yves that I want to keep driving my old car, hybrids are the wrong decision
Adamo: OK.

Adamo: How are you enjoying the new car?
Tänak: I don't give a s**t
Adamo: OK.

Adamo says: O K ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No rear fan showing unlike M-Sport & Toyota cars...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCyZMZ0WUAINsYm?format=jpg&name=large

[EstWRC]

Sordo on Friday

https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/hyundai-puts-2022-wrc-car-through-full-rally-simulation/6721423/

Hyundai Motorsport is conducting a private rally with its new 2022 hybrid World Rally Championship prototype to aid preparations for next season.


The Korean marque has set up essentially a bespoke three-day rally to mimic exactly the conditions the new i20 Rally1 car will be subjected to when the WRC's new hybrid regulations are introduced next season.


Hyundai has elected to carry out this full rally simulation on the tarmac roads in the Piedmont region in Northern Italy. Working with local authorities, several sections of roads have been closed off to create rally stages, some previously used in Rally di Alba.

To ensure no stone is left unturned with its preparations for next year, the event incorporates electric power only zones, to put the car's 100kW hybrid system through its paces.

These zones will be in use at every rally next year between stages, while the cars will also be required to run on electric power only in the service park.

To practice this, the team has also attempted to recreate a midday service and tyre fitting zones to make the rally simulation as authentic as possible.


Ott Tanak jumped behind the wheel of the i20 on Wednesday before handing the car over to Thierry Neuville on Thursday, while Dani Sordo will complete the event on Friday.

The rally simulation is evidence that Hyundai has been increasing its 2022 car testing in recent weeks, having been previously playing catch up after being the last of the current WRC manufacturers to receive the green light for its Rally1 car project.

The i20 Rally1 car is competing the event utilising a camouflage livery to hide some of its aerodynamic styling cues.

Teams have had had to redesign body shells for 2022 with the new regulations reducing the amount of downforce the cars create compared to their predecessors.

[AnttiL]

BTW
doing this full rally simulation test was something that VW used to do, not sure if other teams as well have done it.

[EstWRC]

Hyundai testing the Rally1 in Sardegna couple of weeks back with Tänak, credit to planetemarcus http://planetemarcus.com/la-i20-rally1-etait-egalement-en-essais-en-sardaigne/


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[Mirek]

BTW
doing this full rally simulation test was something that VW used to do, not sure if other teams as well have done it.

Probably yes. If I remember right Škoda was sometimes doing up to 300 km per day with one car and one crew even in early S2000 days more than ten years ago.

[EstWRC]

Sordo Rally1 https://youtu.be/qzTSyeNlzSo

[EstWRC]

Nice long vid of Hyundai rally1 test including some onboard https://youtu.be/FXrQhtAV3Ak

[EstWRC]

Sordo rally1 https://youtu.be/yKO9wKkD98g

[EstWRC]

Hyundai Rally1 https://youtu.be/fQ4We_0FOE0

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rovanpera crashed today on a Monza PET...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CV0WK22DCbm/?utm_medium=copy_link

[EstWRC]

Kalle for Monza https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9tfx1541h4

[rp]

Ogier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo1j4ChiSUc

Neuville: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28p-NGXNP2Q

[rp]

Suninen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hctez04c3w

[mknight]

Suninen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hctez04c3w

1:19
Is that a small dab on brakes or small touch of handbrake to make the car turn in the middle of the corner? (rear wheels just about out of the shot).

Else it's exactly same road as last year. Also many other teams used it then.

[EstWRC]

Sordo for Monza https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZDTA9Afeiw
Evans for Monza https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LCg_fIJGmU

[lankey555]

Meeke back testing R5 Skoda

https://youtu.be/DPUhGhPUrL8

[mknight]

Meeke back testing R5 Skoda

https://youtu.be/DPUhGhPUrL8

This is like the 4th "public" test he is on. (Finland before the rally, Spain and CZ before that).

[EstWRC]

Solberg for MOnza https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0GUnk4sZms

[EstWRC]

Toyota Rally1 on gravel, the air intakes have gotten smaller on sides

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDwcBV2XMAAUsFE?format=jpg&name=large



credit https://twitter.com/Carli_Cup/status/1458071224748228612/photo/1

[lluisva555]

Right. Also modified rear, with two fans to remove hot air, and revised lower end (where the diffuser was)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans was testing the Yaris Rally1 today.

[Andre Oliveira]

Video of Evans today

https://twitter.com/ewrcresults/status/1458147055474515968?s=21

[Andre Oliveira]

Pics of Carlos Martín

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDxmQ2PXMAQShmB?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDxmQ2VWUAo2hkT?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDxma1gXoAInClW?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

Evans - Martin by Sempre al Tall

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/37219-gravel-test-elfyn-evans-toyota-yaris-wrc-hybrid-2022-rally1/

[Andre Oliveira]

Evans - Martin by Passats de Canto

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/37220-gravel-test-elfyn-evans-toyota-yaris-rally1-2022-passats-de-canto/

[EstWRC]

Evans Day2 Rally1 by Passats https://youtu.be/a5EJyuR8NgM

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD7V4piXoAc0_f0?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD7V6WVXMAMsdNT?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD7V7JAWUAA1pKp?format=jpg&name=large

[Andre Oliveira]

Rovanperä - Halttunen

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD8Mka0XsAw7pi8?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD8Mka0XIAI88kY?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD8Mka0XIAQSC2L?format=jpg&name=large

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD8Mka7XsAIDmaS?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD8MnuFXMAAzEfI?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD8Mnt-WQAAK-8r?format=jpg&name=large

[Andre Oliveira]

Neuville - Wydaeghe

Pic of World Rally is Free

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD_leljXEAENBZw?format=jpg&name=medium

[EstWRC]

Kalle Rally1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNkUPvhOc4I

[EstWRC]

Neuville Rally1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQO5W_6BRKQ

[EstWRC]

Neuville Rally1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpG6ETI5CDs

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/235718477210190/posts/1016607022454661/?d=n

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEBrMoOXsAkeuF5?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEBrMoPXwAAqraG?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEBrMoVX0AUl0zV?format=jpg&name=medium

[EstWRC]

Neuville and Tänak rally 1 https://youtu.be/yRmqGGtrVs0

[cali]

Neuville and Tänak rally 1 https://youtu.be/yRmqGGtrVs0So Ott has been behind the wheel of a new i20 after all...

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[AnttiL]

I'm the one who always says we shouldn't make comments on testing videos...but that Hyundai looks so clumsy, like an early Group B quattro or even the Citroen BX4TC, with big understeer and sudden oversteer

[doubled1978]

I'm the one who always says we shouldn't make comments on testing videos...but that Hyundai looks so clumsy, like an early Group B quattro or even the Citroen BX4TC, with big understeer and sudden oversteer

I’ve avoided saying anything for the same reason, but I have to agree there is something odd about the way it squats and understeers under power. Looks really strange.
I’m sure they will sort it out, but for now it doesn’t look the easiest for sure.

[EstWRC]

Neuville/Tänak Rally1 by Aa26 https://youtu.be/Qz_oTTQKwI8

[spiderem]

Neuville/Tänak Rally1 by Aa26 https://youtu.be/Qz_oTTQKwI8

Anyone knows the location in France of the test? i could not see in the video description. Thanks.

[becher]

I find it strange as well, i expected the new cars to look much stiffer than the old ones.

[doubled1978]

I find it strange as well, i expected the new cars to look much stiffer than the old ones.

I would say the Puma does look stiffer than the Fiesta from the videos we have seen, and in honesty better for it, yet the Hyundai appears to have gone the opposite direction on the evidence we see so far.
I’ll wait until we really see them in competition to decide for myself if they really are what we see now.

[EstWRC]

Tänak Rally1 https://youtu.be/9ELGBwdHcGU