WRC Testing

[cali]

People. That´s me in this case.

And yes conclusions are allowed, don´t you think.

And I watched rallycars for ages, and yes I stand for what I´m saying.

What I didn´t know about is suspension travel. Has it been shortened for 2022, you say AnttiL?
I also wonder about min weight, is it still 1200 kgs with 200 kgs of batterypack?Wrong button, intended to Reply not to Like but anyways.

You were not even the first one to make "conclusions"

Conclusions based on what? First outing of a mule car? You can conclude what you like but it doesn't give any clearer picture. It's quite pointless when cars are not driven even close to their potential.

But hey, it's a free world

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[Rallyper]

Wrong button, intended to Reply not to Like but anyways.

You were not even the first one to make "conclusions"

Conclusions based on what? First outing of a mule car? You can conclude what you like but it doesn't give any clearer picture. It's quite pointless when cars are not driven even close to their potential.

But hey, it's a free world

Sent from my GM1913 using Tapatalk

Thank you for free speech possible.

Conclusions on whats been seen? Absolutely. Why not?

Let´s hope both you and me, it´s getting better.

[dimviii]

Evans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-m1vh3-V64&feature=youtu.be

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I'm happy enough from looking at the videos. The noise and drama look to be still there and that's what I loved when watching it live.

Sure it looks a little bit slower at the moment but this is very early days and it doesnt look bad/sound at all. I'd say come the start of next year these will be almost as good as the 2017 cars to watch and for me thats all I was hoping for, once its not a huge step back I'm satisfied.
Nothing will beat watching WRC cars driven at full chat, Ive seen the 2litre (2007+), 1.6 and the latest machines and every one has been amazing, particularly the 17 WRCs.

Looking forward to seeing these in anger in 2022 in Northern Ireland/Finland if all goes to plan!

Spot-on mate.

It's very early days - and we dont know what's been fitted on the mule and what's being tested - but it doesnt look too bad anyway and could look a lot worse.

Once its all sorted it looks like the new Rally1 cars will be still be worth watching, even if not as outright fast as the '17 cars.

Plus my fear of the ugly Puma SUV wont be, as the M-Sport cars always look good. I bet the '22 car will look like the Fiesta WRC in all but name. After all the road Puma is basically a Fiesta on stilts with different lights and grille.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.234646605100985&type=3

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0PokH3X0AYFLB5?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0PokH5XIAkFYnm?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0PokH6WUAgcRNo?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

Video: https://youtu.be/O2-HzuaK00Y

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0PcWEQWYAQyVHN?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0PcWD4XEAA2Oit?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0PcWEzXIAMn43m?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0PcWD2XMAEqY59?format=jpg&name=large

[SubaruNorway]

Doesn't seem like there's any travel difference, not in drop anyway.

[Mirek]

Doesn't seem like there's any travel difference, not in drop anyway.

If I understand it right the suspension of these new cars shall be closer to the Rally2/R5 in both the travel, dampers and the overal design.

[er88]

Video: https://youtu.be/O2-HzuaK00Y


Sounding and looking great imo.

[dimviii]

Evans by D10M watch the front grill

https://youtu.be/HBQzkIM1UB4

[Andre Oliveira]

https://youtu.be/n2i3H7KQ5dM

https://youtu.be/w_SohWUgZoo

[RS]

Rear looks really ,,light,, and easy to flick left&right.. due to changed differential?

I like it, looks more ‘natural’ than the current World Rally cars which squirm around somewhat.

[dimviii]

Keaton Williams
@KeatonWilliams_
Dreams to come true
Fantastic to be with @TGR_WRC
on their Portugal PET, with @TakamotoKatsuta
!

Playing super sub for Dan Barritt for the weekend, whilst he has other commitments!

Fair to say the current spec WRC cars definitely feel as fast as the look
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0X3B5KXsAM6UMj?format=jpg&name=small

[EstWRC]

Neuville for Sardegna https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07I2Olfm5CA

[Rallyper]

Neuville for Sardegna https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07I2Olfm5CA

Looks nice to see the suspension working so efficient.

[EstWRC]

Lappi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8I2hivxKkg

[Andre Oliveira]

Toyota Yaris GR Rally1

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/34886-toyota-gr-yaris-2022-test-juho-hanninen-1452021/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Screen grabs:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1b0IsZVIAM1tC4?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1b0JOAUUAcJuN1?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1b3UfMXEAEWzuA?format=jpg&name=900x900

[mknight]

Those wents.... almost like they have mid-mounted engine.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fourmaux wet test in Portugal:

https://youtu.be/7eydsjCSCfE

https://youtu.be/hc7yruex-Mc

http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Test_Days_MSPORT_Portugal_2021_2.jpg

http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Test_Days_MSPORT_Portugal_2021_1.jpg

[TypeR]

They stole Hyundai's livery :D

[pantealex]

They stole Hyundai's livery :D

other way round, Toyota had that livery already last summer ;)

in their Yaris GR WRC2021

[EstWRC]

other way round, Toyota had that livery already last summer ;)

in their Yaris GR WRC2021

and Citroen and M-sport used it already in 2016 ;)

[TypeR]

Yes, forgot the 2021 TGR test mule that had same livery..

and I meant the base colours of current i20 not just the camo squares/triangles..
C3 was different and M-Sport was only blue..
Hopefully we will see the i20 rally1 test soon

[mknight]

https://youtu.be/AG1zGipZrtM

One more from Fourmaux, seriously bad luck for weather.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Greensmith

http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Test_Days_MSPORT_Portugal_2021_5.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1hLcxGXEAAR1pi?format=jpg&name=medium

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db9rRdhl37k

[EstWRC]

Yaris Hybrid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUMbEQ2bPz0

[Andre Oliveira]

Viseu, Portugal

Pic of Marco Sousa

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2T2cMmXMAEolXo?format=jpg&name=900x900

[EstWRC]

Yaris hybrid https://youtu.be/RpfNFXzz1i8

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2WxNrrXwAArE3B?format=jpg&name=medium

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2WxRaPWYAIyZHw?format=jpg&name=small

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2X70M9XMAQZhhv?format=jpg&name=medium

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2dDB1uXIAArksj?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2dDBT-XMAExH_6?format=jpg&name=medium


https://twitter.com/RubenOteroDo/status/1398159943346368513?s=20

[TypeR]

Good quality photos! and still these air intake scoops are damn huge :D

Could they have any other purpose than cooling batteries..? more downforce somehow..?

[mknight]

Good quality photos! and still these air intake scoops are damn huge :D

Could they have any other purpose than cooling batteries..? more downforce somehow..?

When they already have them there I'd expect them to also use them for air to rear brakes instead of the current ones which seem to be missing.


Also as you say why not make them a bit larger than necessary and use the air for extra downforce (through the "diffuser") since it's not "hidden" duct is it allowed? (new rules talk specifically about downforce from "hidden" ducts not allowed)

[EstWRC]

or you can fit extra spare parts into the holes!

[Andre Oliveira]

10 posts of SPAM, i reported many of them. No admin to delete them?

[EstWRC]

Yaris Hybrid https://youtu.be/GlQr2Z03i-8

[OHL]

10 posts of SPAM, i reported many of them. No admin to delete them?

Would be nice if they coordinated a bit. It must be a waste of their spammer resources to have 3 of them spamming the same thread/forum.
Also, isn't it a bit late to be hawking hydroxychloroquine now? I don't think they will sell much.

Definitely a waste of spammer resources, someone should tell them.

[AnttiL]

Clearly it's just some bot. I always click report when I can. It surely would be good to have more admins around.

[EstWRC]

Toyotas own vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK8YT4Ncdh8

those airtakes look ridiculous

[PLuto]

10 posts of SPAM, i reported many of them. No admin to delete them?

My operating hours are usually 1pm-4am :)

[Andre Oliveira]

Problem is 10 post of same user. Why allow them here?

[PLuto]

Problem is 10 post of same user. Why allow them here?

I cannot do anything with it. But for admin it is quite easy to delete all of them by one action.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/100063540581416/posts/173361951458490/?d=n

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2gV1EkXMAAeO-C?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2gV1EnWEAM_hJi?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2gV1EiXwAgOVZA?format=jpg&name=medium

[mknight]

Haven't seen any really good rear picture (of the new "diffuser". Anyone?

[EstWRC]

credit and more https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=dariobteles&set=a.166768968781240


https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/193246596_166768442114626_5445796152181821731_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=2YMRHydB-EsAX8rMB4V&_nc_oc=AQkbxw2xYznGN-JTvWBKGvvm2xngo_jwJxS49W5Dj5TaHXye5Ikeyl9Lnc2O82kJ iNg&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=5439d674dd1725639f6d3d74602ac199&oe=60D8413A
https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/192327706_166768188781318_3149521661489190599_n.jp g?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=D99D_vh46HkAX9WBO_v&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=8687ca03f7617f046b289cee593e3397&oe=60DA971C
https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/191683455_166768192114651_6365177932998715775_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=LXmvqr3VmmgAX9mW-Ee&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=397c637953e824d53347fadf5662f00b&oe=60D73F3E

[wyler]

Looks a bit s4-ish...

[EstWRC]

Toyota gazoo racing tested new Toyota yaris hybrid rally1 in Finland early april and in may 2021. Juho Hänninen drowe the car all 5 days. inc. snow and icedrift, jumps, dust,gravel,mud and maximum attack. Here the sound of new era wrc engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPpuQ7MbUnY

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen testing
https://youtu.be/3-n-OwO8w5A

[EstWRC]

Evans for Estonia https://youtu.be/D3SDQH-FG6c

[EstWRC]

Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0R03UMCzBk

[rpzcs]

Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0R03UMCzBk

That's cool!
I was having a dinner near Otepää with my friends when suddenly, out of nowhere my 4 year old shouted: "Daddy, look, Ott Tänak!" while Yaris WRC cruised by. :D

[EstWRC]

Kalle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7lstq9FJhg

[mknight]

On the Solberg "testing" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m2ZTMbgBD0
Oliver is using the "Loubet hybrid" spec (on tarmac). Another interesting question is where are the huge cracks in the windscreen from.

[dimviii]

Another interesting question is where are the huge cracks in the windscreen from.

branch of trees usually.

[EstWRC]

could be also from landing off the jump?

[dimviii]

could be also from landing off the jump?

must be a very hard one,doubt it can happen at current wrc cars.Maybe in a N4.

[mknight]

must be a very hard one,doubt it can happen at current wrc cars.Maybe in a N4.

Breen cracked the windscreen of the C3 WRC on the powerstage of 2017 Rally Germany.

The jumped looked smaller than the big one at panzerplatte, but certainly was hard.

[SubaruNorway]

could be also from landing off the jump?

For sure, you can even see another big one coming on the landing in the middle of the screen

[EstWRC]

Tänak with Hybrid Hyundai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzqNXNkxgmQ

[EstWRC]

And Neuville as well https://youtu.be/mkOVWMZwWao

[er88]

Tänak with Hybrid Hyundai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzqNXNkxgmQLove the sound of that!!

[EstWRC]

https://youtu.be/r0qUmnG0k-M

[mknight]

https://youtu.be/r0qUmnG0k-M

Weird the sound is so different when it's supposed to be "same" engine. (did the ALS change?)

Certainly doesn't look "slower than R5 car" in the last corner as the Finnish journalist claimed it to be.

[doubled1978]

Do the new cars run to the same minimum weight as the current cars? Or have they increased it to allow for the hybrid?

[jiipee64]

Toyota testing Rally1 Yaris in Finland.
Juho Hänninen driving...

https://twitter.com/juha_kantanen/status/1406983313269604352?s=19

[TyPat107]

Weird the sound is so different when it's supposed to be "same" engine. (did the ALS change?)

Certainly doesn't look "slower than R5 car" in the last corner as the Finnish journalist claimed it to be.

I think I remember reading getting rid of the fresh air ALS is in the rules for the new cars.


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[Mirek]

I think I remember reading getting rid of the fresh air ALS is in the rules for the new cars.

And that is perfectly logical. Having an ALS in a hybrid car would be ridiculous.

[AnttiL]

And that is perfectly logical. Having an ALS in a hybrid car would be ridiculous.

Can you please explain this to someone who is not an engineer? :) The electric motor will do the same job as ALS? So there will be no more banging sound?

[steve.mandzij]

As far as I understand, removing the fresh air ALS will also improve emissions, no?

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[Mirek]

Can you please explain this to someone who is not an engineer? :) The electric motor will do the same job as ALS? So there will be no more banging sound?

Yes, the function of ALS is to keep the turbo rotating at maximum speed when the throttle valve is closed. The larger the turbo, the higher inertia it has and the more it suffers from lagging. It means it takes more time to accelerate it to full speed and to deliver the maximum boost. The electric engine can add the torque which is missing without ALS during the initial acceleration. It removes the bang but it also removes the main source of fuel inefficiency, i.e. it is somewhat green while the car performance doesn't suffer.


As far as I understand, removing the fresh air ALS will also improve emissions, no?

Yes, for sure.

[paddocknews]

Teemu Suninen Rally Estonia PET https://twitter.com/paddocknews/status/1411232675067793409?s=21

[EstWRC]

Gus and Teemu for Estonia https://youtu.be/5SduKPQz8Mo

[EstWRC]

M-sport day 3 plus interviews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hydMJEozUFY

[EstWRC]

Evans for Estonia but this time testing in Finland https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=tN6amXJf6lc&feature=youtu.be

[EstWRC]

Evans https://youtu.be/SnRMpU-xYfs

[rp]

Evans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qebxCqVqpc

[EstWRC]

Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0dUtOz0wos

[EstWRC]

Kalle https://youtu.be/XgxnodknrU0

https://youtu.be/JBidgZSQ3j8

Hyundai starts their test tomorrow in Estonia

[rp]

Kalle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFpTY3oW2E0

[satukata]

Flying Finn Kalle today https://youtu.be/Mbt42NN2jmM

[EstWRC]

Huttunen testing the Hyundai Rally2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RMdD_xwUgA

[EstWRC]

Tänak for Estonia https://twitter.com/paddocknews/status/1413379083480743937?s=20
https://twitter.com/paddocknews/status/1413386159783391233?s=20

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONTYr4EBPJk

great to see finally flat out driving from the Toyota/M-sport and Hyundai tests this week after the rough rallies

[EstWRC]

Taka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thds2RdwEsM

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgPKsdnFtns

Taka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpgPg0nZRmE&t=11s

Huttunen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1aZevU8o4k

[EstWRC]

Neuville https://youtu.be/5svfsTL9HZs

https://youtu.be/C1P1lac6fas

[EstWRC]

Breen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQhCseH4FXw

[EstWRC]

Oliver for Estonia + interview with Petter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTlzx45pkGo

[dimviii]

Oliver for Estonia + interview with Petter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTlzx45pkGo

seems Oliver is not happy with set up according to Petter speech.

[Andre Oliveira]

South of Portugal

Pics of Mário Domingues

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7AqRVZXEAI_lJ_?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7AqRVYXsAM0Kyh?format=jpg&name=small

[dimviii]

Νeuville
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1419643842433896451

https://twitter.com/DriversRally/status/1419582445372985349

[mousti]

Went to the test today of Neuville just over the Belgian border.

Some video footage from my mate.

https://youtu.be/ex5U-yfsQCo

Verstuurd vanaf mijn M2007J3SG met Tapatalk

[EstWRC]

Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvcx_asOaMY

[EstWRC]

Tänak and Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifd5Gby7j0s

[dimviii]

Ogier testing with different co driver
https://twitter.com/TGR_WRC/status/1420072695610462208

[Andre Oliveira]

He is the test codriver. Benjamin Veillas. Many times discussed here.

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuRR-F5fHe8

Video from Ogier today. Was pretty impressed by how fast he was, and how few runs it took to be really fast. I think they already defined a very good setup before coming here. Also in the wet he looked really confident with the car.

[tommeke_B]

A few photos from Ogier yesterday:

https://scontent.fbru4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/225357599_6295745990437234_5164445373180522474_n.j pg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=0V1w46wFCMwAX9k4pvF&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru4-1.fna&oh=cb7a9f664b4421abd98914271052f25c&oe=6128DEDE

https://scontent.fbru4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/226592376_6295746260437207_1764762667916993269_n.j pg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=67Xb538O-mUAX8jrvEW&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru4-1.fna&oh=9377dba1885f759deb9e5c35c92a13fb&oe=612666B4

https://scontent.fbru4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/226624969_6295745867103913_8288080715507529417_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=Kpdrh17Rr0kAX-kHwZC&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru4-1.fna&oh=ec16348f4557ce02bf4c436a9f321710&oe=6127006C

https://scontent.fbru4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/225305685_6295745963770570_1246179403254876651_n.j pg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=0cz4la_4kZgAX-6fs6J&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru4-1.fna&oh=a21b9b77308bbcb6312b77bb672ebc61&oe=6128FA92

https://scontent.fbru4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/226252103_6295746240437209_7507973188398284702_n.j pg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=R-LyzyWNv38AX93itHQ&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru4-1.fna&oh=1f5a89c75b8edc48fb6a848d21bc1a66&oe=612876F3

[MartijnS]

Rovanpera pushing: https://www.facebook.com/100017759710597/posts/884456042156378/?d=n

[EstWRC]

Formaux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bMFJnmGlVc

[mousti]

Another one from Fourmaux

https://youtu.be/C-iaz7qaAs4

Verstuurd vanaf mijn M2007J3SG met Tapatalk

[EstWRC]

Puma at Finnish forest https://twitter.com/hartusvuoriwrc/status/1422485460782358529?s=21

[EstWRC]

and Toyota on tarmac with Hänninen http://planetemarcus.com/toyota-sort-sa-yaris-wrc-hybride-2022-sur-asphalte/

havent seen/heard from Hyundai for a long time

[Andre Oliveira]

Who is testing in Finland?

[EstWRC]

Matthew Wilson

[AnttiL]

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1422556137585577985?s=21

[EstWRC]

Puma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apxBMHoCxkE

[Portimao]

Who was the driver by the way?

[EstWRC]

Wilson junior was the driver

Gallery https://tuomastoyryralli.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Matthew+Wilson+Ford+Puma+Rally1+Hybrid+WRC+Testit+ 3.8.2021/

Rear wing seems new?

[mmm]

Wilson junior was the driver

Gallery https://tuomastoyryralli.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Matthew+Wilson+Ford+Puma+Rally1+Hybrid+WRC+Testit+ 3.8.2021/

Rear wing seems new?

The whole bodywork is new. This is the first time they are showing the actual new Rally1 Puma, not the Fiesta with Puma lights.

[mknight]

The whole bodywork is new. This is the first time they are showing the actual new Rally1 Puma, not the Fiesta with Puma lights.

Yep, this is not a Fiesta test-mule anymore.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://hencca.galleria.fi/kuvat/Urheilu/Rallitestej%C3%A4+2021/Matthew+Wilson+03.08./

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E74r9SqXsAUjIug?format=jpg&name=medium
https://hencca.galleria.fi/kuvat/Urheilu/Rallitestej%C3%A4%202021/Matthew%20Wilson%2003.08./20210803-5DIII-_01_2917.jpg?img=img1280&_=af0b8
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E74r9SsXMAQyUrD?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

https://youtu.be/apxBMHoCxkE

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/100056993870688/posts/281000000476460/?d=n

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E75asB3WYAMCYMu?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E75asB5WEAkp3-1?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E75asCqXIBY-Vms?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

Toyota

https://twitter.com/burgrid16/status/1422556601186193418?s=21

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E77bW0FXIAUkgLy?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E77bW0DWEAAqlf-?format=jpg&name=large

[RS]

https://cdn-cjjop.nitrocdn.com/HtUQBWgxgzPGCWDZEDiLiMHrIlBDQZFy/assets/static/optimized/rev-b5f1e06/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Casdon-Realistic-Toy-Shopping-Trolley-768x768.jpg

[mknight]

Puma pics impressions:
- Really starting to exploit the "blown diffuser" with the cooling exhaust, there is an exit area also inside the "fake" diffuser line
- From side it looks like the rear wheels are much closer to the rear bumper than on the Fiesta. (might be illusion since the boxy wheelarches are missing)

Toyota:
- Is it me or are the battery/hybrid cooling vents getting bigger and bigger?
- They didn't even bother trying to put the exhaust above the diffuser and just put everything inside it, some possible rule discussions coming up?

[EstWRC]

those battery cooling vents look ridiculously big on Toyota :laugh:

[Hartusvuori]

those battery cooling vents look ridiculously big on Toyota :laugh:

But effective.

[mmm]

Toyota running a lot of rake angle on that tarmac test, haven't seen anything like this in WRC before.

[EstWRC]

Look, a Puma in forest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO15ivpLFbA

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/100056993870688/posts/d41d8cd9/281706660405794/

Day 2

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E79Q0smWEAAWEu5?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E79Q0siWUAUaBJw?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E79Q0tYXEAUawr7?format=jpg&name=medium

[EstWRC]

Puma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccww1HHPZUQ

[Andre Oliveira]

Ford Puma Hybrid Rally1

https://youtu.be/kfUJ4vy4z2E

https://youtu.be/NZrajstLrx4

https://youtu.be/TOfhv9FYHxU

https://youtu.be/wsbYEkFGeCM

[Andre Oliveira]

Toyota GR Yaris Rally1

https://youtu.be/gQuFmgxZ2z4

[RS]

The Puma looks heavy.

Ok it’s early days but not really getting the wow factor from these cars that was immediately apparent with the current generation of World Rally Car.

Hyundai looks the closest to ‘normal’ so far.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Day2 Puma test gallery

https://hencca.galleria.fi/kuvat/Urheilu/Rallitestej%C3%A4+2021/Matthew+Wilson+04.08./

[AMSS]

Day2 Puma test gallery

https://hencca.galleria.fi/kuvat/Urheilu/Rallitestej%C3%A4+2021/Matthew+Wilson+04.08./

Suspension travel was supposed to be limited for 2022, based on these pictures doesn`t look like it`s limited by that much?

[EstWRC]

Toyota running a lot of rake angle on that tarmac test, haven't seen anything like this in WRC before.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E799_QuWEAg_nCp?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Hartusvuori]

The Puma looks heavy.

Ok it’s early days but not really getting the wow factor from these cars that was immediately apparent with the current generation of World Rally Car.

Hyundai looks the closest to ‘normal’ so far.

The current generation of cars were a big step up in terms of looks and performance compared to the previous generation. 2022 cars would have given the same effect at the time.

[doubled1978]

The Puma looks heavy.

Ok it’s early days but not really getting the wow factor from these cars that was immediately apparent with the current generation of World Rally Car.

Hyundai looks the closest to ‘normal’ so far.

I tend to agree, not getting the juices flowing just yet. It may well be a sound thing, but the Toyota just looked slow 🤷🏻*♂️

[Rallyper]

Heavyy!!! = slooower :) :)

Like said. No change in my opinion....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suspension travel was supposed to be limited for 2022, based on these pictures doesn`t look like it`s limited by that much?

With the extra weight it must need it for these big jumps.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The Puma looks heavy.

Ok it’s early days but not really getting the wow factor from these cars that was immediately apparent with the current generation of World Rally Car.

Hyundai looks the closest to ‘normal’ so far.

Of course it's still early - plus you have to temper your expectations with the 2022-spec after the 'golden era' of the 2017-2021 mega-tech, mega-aero cars.

My only real disappointment so far (with the Puma), is M-Sport has gone from the prettiest WRC car to the ugliest, now that its been fully-revealed in its true 5-door body. :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E75asCqXIBY-Vms?format=jpg&name=medium

[Mirek]

Suspension travel was supposed to be limited for 2022, based on these pictures doesn`t look like it`s limited by that much?

It's probably same or similar as Rally2. It makes little sense to limit the travel more.

[AnttiL]

Of course it's still early - plus you have to temper your expectations with the 2022-spec after the 'golden era' of the 2017-2021 mega-tech, mega-aero cars.

My only real disappointment so far (with the Puma), is M-Sport has gone from the prettiest WRC car to the ugliest, now that its been fully-revealed in its true 5-door body. :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E75asCqXIBY-Vms?format=jpg&name=medium

I don't see a rear door there ;) but yeah, the bodyshell is likely the same size, although they are allowed to scale it.

[doubled1978]

I don't see a rear door there ;) but yeah, the bodyshell is likely the same size, although they are allowed to scale it.

The bodyshell looks like it’s mounted too far forward, large front overhang and no rear overhang…it’s probably for aero, but looks odd.

[RS]

The current generation of cars were a big step up in terms of looks and performance compared to the previous generation. 2022 cars would have given the same effect at the time.

Agree with the first point, not so sure on the second. Maybe when the electric power is working? I can only presume on the Yaris tarmac video it was not.

[RS]

My only real disappointment so far (with the Puma), is M-Sport has gone from the prettiest WRC car to the ugliest, now that its been fully-revealed in its true 5-door body. :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E75asCqXIBY-Vms?format=jpg&name=medium

I think the Yaris with the park bench stuck on the rear hatch will give it a pretty good run for it’s money..

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/401746353235759/posts/4087690064641351/?d=n

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8D_gudXEAQJ-3Q?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8D_guIWUAgZdeL?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8D_guKXIAImbPG?format=jpg&name=medium

[EstWRC]

Puma https://youtu.be/MXilwPAxziE

Toyota https://youtu.be/fUKrwAAkeOA

[doubled1978]

Puma https://youtu.be/MXilwPAxziE

Toyota https://youtu.be/fUKrwAAkeOA

It’s only a short clip, but the Puma looks pretty good in that video, seems quite stable.

[er88]

Eye tests are always a bit iffy and folk will have different views, but for me the Puma looks better and quicker than the Yaris. Ofcourse they could be at different stages in their development, but I quite like what I see from the Ford considering it's Matt Wilson driving ( a guy who is miles off the pace in the BRC).

[cali]

Useless to compare tarmac and gravel testing. Different surface, different setups....

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[Jewy46]

It’s only a short clip, but the Puma looks pretty good in that video, seems quite stable.

I agree, the Puma looks quicker than before in that clip. Encouraging!

Also the ALS on the Toyota sounds great, reminds me of the Mini WRC :lips:

Those 2 clips give me cause for hope. I wouldnt like to lose the current wow factor of watching these cars live

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Puma test with great launch giving the full sound plus what looks like a fan running at the rear:

At 1 min in -
https://youtu.be/kfUJ4vy4z2E

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I think the Yaris with the park bench stuck on the rear hatch will give it a pretty good run for it’s money..

But apart from that its much neater overall with using the GR Yaris coupe bodyshell shape. The Puma SUV body isnt a pretty thing to start with.

[EstWRC]

i like the looks of the cars, IMO the Puma looks great not ugly but people are different. Toyota also looks cool.

About the performance, i like what im seeing so far but maybe thats because i really lowered my expectations when it was said they will be slower.

Considering its still quite early phase and its Matthew Wilson who is driving with the Puma, it doesnt look bad at all IMO.

Cant wait to see more vids in near future.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Pity M-Sport couldn't stick with the Puma-Fiesta body shown at Goodwood and in this model - much prettier:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8GKiQRXEAMUkj5?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8GKiQQWQAEXfkP?format=jpg&name=medium

[denkimi]

Gryazin has already crashed during his test.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=363143145176741&id=100044431746415

[tommeke_B]

Saw some images from yesterday (through whatsapp, so can't share it here), him crashing was more a question about "when", not "if"... Maybe good it happened now and not on the first stage. I heard some rumor a new shell is already on it's way.

[wwbroe]

Gryazin has already crashed during his test.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=363143145176741&id=100044431746415

Apparently he rolled the car three times, so bodyshell completely destroyed.

[the sniper]

Maybe good it happened now and not on the first stage.

What makes you think he won't just do it again?! :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

O.Solberg for Ypres
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8Tm0jiWUAE5cN6?format=jpg&name=large

[mknight]

For me the monolitic red on the whole bumper ruins the looks of the car (from the front).

Maybe some more stickers will help, but for some reason there seems to be very few so far.

[AnttiL]

Often they use mono colored bumpers in testing (in winter they even take the rear bumper off)

[mknight]

Thing is if this is "test only" then why the black "design" stripes near the grille?

Let's hope the final design is better.

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2XWsd8wX_o

Suninen, Kristensson and Rossel testing for Ypres.

[mknight]

Any info if Huttunen got any test at all?
(He did drive on tarmac a few weeks ago, but on very different roads)

[tommeke_B]

I think Huttunen had a day of testing. I think last sunday. Spectating on Belgian tests was mostly forbidden however, so it's unlikely anyone has some footage from it.

[Tom K]

Huttunen was testing in Belgium yesterday.

[Tom K]

Apparently Hyundai stopped their PET before Acropolis after one day. Rumours about bringing wrong tyres.

[EstWRC]

what? tarmac ones instead of gravel?

[Allez Andruet]

Apparently Hyundai stopped their PET before Acropolis after one day. Rumours about bringing wrong tyres.

Doesn't sound like a valid reason. By air freight (even a regular one) the tyres would be there easily within 24 hrs.

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/TakamotoKatsuta/status/1428909627605929985

[lluisva555]

Apparently Hyundai stopped their PET before Acropolis after one day. Rumours about bringing wrong tyres.

According to this website (https://www.motorone.gr/agones/12390/rally-akropolis-stin-ellada-gia-dokimes-toyota-kai-hyundai/), the test had been interrupted last Thursday after two days (Tanak and Neuville) due to serious problems with the Pirelli tyres, and will resume next week with Sordo and the Rally2 car drivers.

[Vaggelis27]

According to this website (https://www.motorone.gr/agones/12390/rally-akropolis-stin-ellada-gia-dokimes-toyota-kai-hyundai/), the test had been interrupted last Thursday after two days (Tanak and Neuville) due to serious problems with the Pirelli tyres, and will resume next week with Sordo and the Rally2 car drivers.

Only Tanak test.Neuville and Sordo this week.

[EstWRC]

of course it happened with Tänak, lol

[EstWRC]

Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZaxRlzeXas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmpjV0ihQ68

[EstWRC]

Taka and Evans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBNRawiJHLM

[Antonis9]

My videos !! https://www.instagram.com/p/CS6bdFYD5RX/?utm_medium=copy_link


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[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1731957840326482&id=100005368470605&fs=0&focus_composer=0

[EstWRC]

Puma on tarmac with Fourmaux, credit epic rally tribe Facebook

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210824/3e3f89751ec651d4c4617999aead94f5.jpg

[EstWRC]

clip https://twitter.com/colinmacardeche/status/1430060337097846798?s=20

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9iwn1HWUBAgBOy?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9iwn97WUBAZurJ?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9jELH0XMBMliM4?format=jpg&name=medium

Aurélien Vialatte Photography

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9jNaQqX0AEkYGo?format=jpg&name=medium

Anthony Bailet

[bomber21]

Looks like a beast!

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1430129715931648001

[Tom K]

Apparently it's not Fourmaux behind wheel of Puma. https://twitter.com/AdrienFourmaux/status/1430144840772341786

[AnttiL]

Apparently it's not Fourmaux behind wheel of Puma. https://twitter.com/AdrienFourmaux/status/1430144840772341786

A secret driver? Breen?

[EstWRC]

i doubt its Breen, he should be contracted until the end of the year so the earliest he can test is December


dunno epic rally tribe said in facebook in the morning its Fourmaux but could be fooling then

[EstWRC]

https://twitter.com/MundoRallyes/status/1430148234186575885?s=20

[Andre Oliveira]

Apparently it's not Fourmaux behind wheel of Puma. https://twitter.com/AdrienFourmaux/status/1430144840772341786

Not Fourmaux at the wheel but… Renaud on codriver seat.

[EstWRC]

Puma https://youtu.be/H_i4aQ0TaIo

[doubled1978]

Not Fourmaux at the wheel but… Renaud on codriver seat.

Loeb?

[EstWRC]

You guys got fooled by Fourmaux https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1430181683685466113?s=21

[Andre Oliveira]

Do’h

[Tom K]

Or he told mother, he will be in school :D

[dimviii]

Doesn't sound like a valid reason. By air freight (even a regular one) the tyres would be there easily within 24 hrs.

confirmed that they had sent wrong batch of tyres.Today Neuville was testing.

the right batch of tyres at a wheel shop at Corinth city

https://scontent.fath5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/237569890_3218539511733617_1585366692185212678_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=973b4a&_nc_ohc=u5hQ9WLiABIAX-CVrIn&_nc_ht=scontent.fath5-1.fna&oh=fc76293ca584d621f04aa8ceba15222a&oe=614B8F76
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https://scontent.fath5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/238032130_3218539555066946_3384218500707964434_n.j pg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=973b4a&_nc_ohc=v_LEOvHVBDcAX-YMGJi&_nc_ht=scontent.fath5-1.fna&oh=3b557a9877d8b90c4e82d452f6bcf095&oe=614C2321
https://scontent.fath5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/239805261_3218539515066950_3594576694614010208_n.j pg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=973b4a&_nc_ohc=8-6jH5KWiwcAX8lGWMI&_nc_ht=scontent.fath5-1.fna&oh=ffe2dbb63029a80508fba4299bce1c64&oe=614BC63A
https://scontent.fath5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/237907973_3218539508400284_3072069552020587108_n.j pg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=973b4a&_nc_ohc=grf6GVEZtD0AX8Qm__P&_nc_ht=scontent.fath5-1.fna&oh=7d002bb8014eeffc8c062cd3e83982e1&oe=614A5904
https://scontent.fath5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/238156232_3218539531733615_5266786349369895645_n.j pg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=973b4a&_nc_ohc=WhLIjNJJNRUAX9ui6UB&_nc_ht=scontent.fath5-1.fna&oh=98f3489ffab792d3d4ad0b058a7e67fd&oe=6148F7EE
https://scontent.fath5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/239791233_3218539535066948_6217390479980459533_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=973b4a&_nc_ohc=OumDdJtGuqsAX-XKyxc&_nc_ht=scontent.fath5-1.fna&oh=16cd2636cc219f4785d808a6414dc5e3&oe=6149BEC3
https://scontent.fath5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/239689050_3218539505066951_1415784940432023813_n.j pg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=973b4a&_nc_ohc=lkz5HTHX0QcAX-U_JUF&_nc_ht=scontent.fath5-1.fna&oh=5a488bad986cea79184523fdfc3bcc76&oe=614A1D63

[EstWRC]

Tarmac Puma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=synt21MxCTE

[Andre Oliveira]

Looking very good

https://twitter.com/ewrcresults/status/1430249786343571470?s=21

[steve.mandzij]

When did the last i20 hybrid WRC tests surface? I'm getting a little concerned.

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[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/235718477210190/posts/d41d8cd9/964821734299857/

https://www.facebook.com/1210776355629434/posts/la-l%C3%A9gende-raconte-quelle-se-balade-de-for%C3%AAt-en-for%C3%AAt-pour-terrifier-les-habitan/6532112020162481/

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.6055539227854515&type=3

https://www.facebook.com/100044512757085/posts/first-day-with-adrien-fourmaux-m-sport/372011724292583/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9lKAlbXMAsNtVu?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9lKAleWYAU0J-e?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9lKAldWUAMNJaE?format=jpg&name=large

[EstWRC]

When did the last i20 hybrid WRC tests surface? I'm getting a little concerned.

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maybe after Loriaux saw it said "lets rebuild it" :laugh:


but indeed, havent seen vids of them at all, last ones were 2 months ago...doesnt mean they arent testing though

[doubled1978]

Looking very good

https://twitter.com/ewrcresults/status/1430249786343571470?s=21

Yeah it looks pretty good, you can see a few traits that they have tried to improve over the old (current) car, but some of it might be to do with the new regs.
It does look long tho!

[er88]

Too early to worry about Hyundai just yet. They were the first manufacturer to actually have a version of their car running (that's what I was told anyway), despite Adamo playing his media games. Ofcourse the first few tests are more just shakedowns and spotting faults etc, and testing reliability and durability.

However Hyundai have had their two lead drivers properly test the car, Toyota haven't had that as of yet. Expect Hyundai to be doing some runs away from prying eyes, but when they next test properly, that car will be a lot different from when they last tested. Loriaux on board, a full test with Tanak and Neuville behind them, with their input/ feedback and criticism....

Things must ramp up soon enough.

[cali]

When did the last i20 hybrid WRC tests surface? I'm getting a little concerned.

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[EstWRC]

Ouch, if that is true

[EstWRC]

Another one of puma https://youtu.be/I1uDD89AQik

[TypeR]

Hyundai's possible problems.. that's why Wilson is not rushing with driver line-up.. :D
But hopefully they get it sorted out and testing sooner than later.. time is ticking

[mknight]

https://twitter.com/MiikaWuorela/status/1430204559591411718?s=07

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Wuorela wrote that "any R5 car" is faster than the new Rally1 car in corners. Hard to take him seriously after that.

The comments about VW 2017 car are even more funny. Are we supposed to believe that the VW that dominated WRC completely and spend all their testdays during most of 2016 on new car (not even testing for rallies) suddenly make so big design mistake that it forced them to quit WRC? (the post implies this).

All 3 VW drivers (who drove multiple other 2017 cars later) said that VW would likely have been either best or one of the best cars.

[EstWRC]

Puma by Aa36 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m84hiPslqyI

[doubled1978]

Wuorela wrote that "any R5 car" is faster than the new Rally1 car in corners. Hard to take him seriously after that.

The comments about VW 2017 car are even more funny. Are we supposed to believe that the VW that dominated WRC completely and spend all their testdays during most of 2016 on new car (not even testing for rallies) suddenly make so big design mistake that it forced them to quit WRC? (the post implies this).

All 3 VW drivers (who drove multiple other 2017 cars later) said that VW would likely have been either best or one of the best cars.

You can sort of pick the bones out of what he writes, but I agree some of it seems odd.
The R5 quote I would assume he means in sharp, very slow corners where the weight will work against the new cars, you can already see it a bit in the videos we have seen.

It does seem odd we haven’t seen anything of the new Hyundai since those original tests, maybe there is something wrong, or being redesigned.

As for the VW, it looked ok in the tests we saw, the thing I have taken subsequently in that FX interview is that maybe they didn’t focus on the aero as much as others, which they may have had to revise later.

[AnttiL]

Again, don't try to judge speed from what you see on test videos. Anyway if Hyundai is redesigning their suspension, at least they won't be making the same mistake as Citroen.

[mknight]

You can sort of pick the bones out of what he writes, but I agree some of it seems odd.
The R5 quote I would assume he means in sharp, very slow corners where the weight will work against the new cars, you can already see it a bit in the videos we have seen.

It does seem odd we haven’t seen anything of the new Hyundai since those original tests, maybe there is something wrong, or being redesigned.

As for the VW, it looked ok in the tests we saw, the thing I have taken subsequently in that FX interview is that maybe they didn’t focus on the aero as much as others, which they may have had to revise later.

He commented on that based on tests in Finland, more specifically based on 140 kph-ish corner ( https://twitter.com/MiikaWuorela/status/1405488151620206600 )
"The corner speed is less than any top R5 driver in Finland would do here."


Yes VW had lot less aero than Toyota and a bit less than Hyundai, but similar to Citroen for example, and aero is the easiest thing to "glue" on afterwards.


Again, don't try to judge speed from what you see on test videos. Anyway if Hyundai is redesigning their suspension, at least they won't be making the same mistake as Citroen.

Basically this. It's still a bit more than 4 months to go. Remember where Toyota was in November 2016 when Ogier tested it.

Turning it around one might even wonder whether it's more worrying if MSport is close to finished. Assuming teams have about equal skill and resources (big assumption), does "finishing" much earlier mean they didn't get maximum out of the rules?

[AnttiL]

Those Hyundai tests that Wuorela attended were likely very preliminary, could be just tests to see what happens to the car when they run jumps, and they were absolutely not allowed to crash the car.

At the same time, it's completely expected that Rally1 cars will have slower corner speed than current WRC because of less aero and simpler transmission. As for comparing to R5, that type of cars weren't present in the test that day, and even if they were, it would be questionable if anyone can judge cornering speed just by watching.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Some things re the Hyundai and their hybrid :
1. They were last to get the go-ahead from the management so maybe the plans were delayed
2. They have a fully-private test area that no-one can see them at
3. Their two top drivers are already signed up for 2022 so there's no rush to have a car ready for a new driver to test

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9iwn1HWUBAgBOy?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9iwn97WUBAZurJ?format=jpg&name=medium

Like all rally cars the Puma loiks better in tarmac-spec but it doesnt look very balanced, or very nimble for the slower corners.

[EstWRC]

Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l2GOGXbLOw
All the Toyota guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq1RYJn-eMc
Ogier and Evans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM15UFVsaxU

[doubled1978]

Again, don't try to judge speed from what you see on test videos. Anyway if Hyundai is redesigning their suspension, at least they won't be making the same mistake as Citroen.

I’m not judging the speed, speed is only relative against the others and until the first rally, we won’t know. What you can do is look at the attitude of the car, and see what it’s doing and in my opinion, there are a couple things it’s doing better than current fiesta.

[EstWRC]

Puma by checkpointrallye https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSAizUQKBAI

[dimviii]

Sordo clip
https://twitter.com/antonisdousis/status/1430527660736884744


Neuville
https://twitter.com/AsachiG/status/1430522785319825409

[EstWRC]

Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNI1jI5aom4
Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCmxfZiDkdg

[cali]

Wuorela wrote that "any R5 car" is faster than the new Rally1 car in corners. Hard to take him seriously after that.

The comments about VW 2017 car are even more funny. Are we supposed to believe that the VW that dominated WRC completely and spend all their testdays during most of 2016 on new car (not even testing for rallies) suddenly make so big design mistake that it forced them to quit WRC? (the post implies this).

All 3 VW drivers (who drove multiple other 2017 cars later) said that VW would likely have been either best or one of the best cars.Yeah agree

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[pantealex]

The comments about VW 2017 car are even more funny. Are we supposed to believe that the VW that dominated WRC completely and spend all their testdays during most of 2016 on new car (not even testing for rallies) suddenly make so big design mistake that it forced them to quit WRC? (the post implies this).

All 3 VW drivers (who drove multiple other 2017 cars later) said that VW would likely have been either best or one of the best cars.

Others are making those VW comments and Wuorela says he is not believing on those rumours...

For me looks like Wuorela thinks like those 3 ex VW drivers...

[cali]

Others are making those VW comments and Wuorela says he is not believing on those rumours...

For me looks like Wuorela thinks like those 3 ex VW drivers...Well Mikkelsen was praising VW Polo 2017 as very impressive car

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[mknight]

All 3 of the VW drivers were.

[EstWRC]

Puma Day 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqAGOSiPv7U

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/100044512757085/posts/372641537562935/?d=n

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9p0xCpWQAY-frl?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9p0xCyX0AYXZQ4?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9p0xCrXsAQrdV-?format=jpg&name=medium

[EstWRC]

Sordo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAJxszC0mCE

[doubled1978]

Puma Day 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqAGOSiPv7U

Big moment on the bump, code brown for the cameraman!

[EstWRC]

Hybrid by Zagatoi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5KgliuoROg

[EstWRC]

Puma by rallyechrono https://youtu.be/Ca1-s5apdXw

[EstWRC]

Puma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLDmJpW9BLQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWKPLA9cxfk

Sordo and Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiX3GEWh5UI

[Alex009]

Too early to worry about Hyundai just yet.

Rumours said that there is much bigger problem than only suspension. Something to do with hybrid unit and overheating.

[AnttiL]

Rumours said that there is much bigger problem than only suspension. Something to do with hybrid unit and overheating.

That could well explain the huge air intakes on the sides of the Toyota Yaris...

[dimviii]

Οliver testing at Greece
https://twitter.com/AsachiG/status/1431238169706520576

[Vaggelis27]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNQ-SG2l0Bo&ab_channel=Vpap My video from the three days of hyundai test here in greece.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-D3xefXEAM5wAB?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-D3xemXEAMrTiI?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-D3xenWUAEpEBQ?format=jpg&name=medium

[mknight]

Where is it?

[lluisva555]

Sardinia, with Matthew J. Wilson

[MartijnS]

Mikkelsen posted on his Instagram this morning that he was flying to Sardinia ;)

[Lead]

Mikkelsen posted on his Instagram this morning that he was flying to Sardinia ;)
In his weekly video blog he confirms going for tests in Sardinia, but doesnt say any much more.

[rallyfiend]

Mikkelsen posted on his Instagram this morning that he was flying to Sardinia ;)

Pirelli do almost all their gravel testing in Sardinia

[EstWRC]

Puma Sardegna https://youtu.be/w5LfeySK188

[dimviii]

eWRC-results Retweeted
WRCWings
@llluis555
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46m
MSport testing today in Sardinia the Ford Puma Rally1 Hybrid for 2022 without the side winglets in the rear wing: less drag but less rear downforce - images from Top Rally video - (https://youtube.com/watch?v=w5LfeySK188
) #MSPORTERS #WRC #WRClive #WRCliveES


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-IiuwQXMAANv_o?format=jpg&name=medium

[mknight]

On the vid just above there is a winglet on the left side, but not on the right. Imo most likely explanation is that the right side one got knocked off touching a tree or something like that.

[EstWRC]

Toyota also testing https://twitter.com/colinmacardeche/status/1432962512933298179?s=20

[EstWRC]

Yaris hybrid https://youtu.be/wZDk2_CPZmE

[doubled1978]

Yaris hybrid https://youtu.be/wZDk2_CPZmE

I’m not sure what to make of that, but something doesn’t seem right. It almost looks like the gearing is long to use the hybrid boost, but the hybrid wasn’t working or connected. It looked, and sounded really flat.
What did you think?

[EstWRC]

agreed....looked really lazy compared to Puma test last week


but its testing, we dont know what they were aiming

[doubled1978]

agreed....looked really lazy compared to Puma test last week


but its testing, we dont know what they were aiming

Of course testing is testing….
That wild rake they have in the car will take some getting used to tho!

[EstWRC]

Yaris Hybrid By sudrallye https://youtu.be/10M1DCeV-DY

[mknight]

I’m not sure what to make of that, but something doesn’t seem right. It almost looks like the gearing is long to use the hybrid boost, but the hybrid wasn’t working or connected. It looked, and sounded really flat.
What did you think?

To me it looked like the electric engine either wasn't on or wasn't properly synchronized with the petrol engine in 3/4 of the hairpin passes. The car turns and then there is a lul before power comes.
Might be that they are also testing different ways (programs) to use the hybrid.

Fourmaux mentioned in the recent interview that FIA hasn't decided on when and how it will be used and wants to make it as unpredictable as possible. That sounds like a really bad idea to me.
The basics rules on when and how it can be used should be decided as soon as possible cause they likely can affect tons of other areas of the car and need much more testing to fine-tune.

At the same time there likely needs to be some strict rules so it doesn't turn into "programmers competition". (at one point some team mentioned they could program when it will be used individually for each stage based on corners/profile ++, that sounds like a recipe for cost explosion.)

[EstWRC]

Another Yaris hybrid https://youtu.be/IMV64SUfgbw