WRC Testing

[dimviii]

the lack of cutting i watch it at the videos,and yes at most parts he doesnt seem fast.

[AnttiL]

Lack of cutting could be tactical, like first trying to find settings for places where you cannot cut and the road stays cleaner.

The slow pace could also mean technical problems or testing something very specific.

[tommeke_B]

You don't find settings for places where you cannot cut, simply because all stages have mostly corners where will be cut. I don't see the use of testing on a clean "uncut" stage for Ypres, especially this year. About testing specific things you're right, maybe sometimes not on ideal tires etc.

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rpPm7603q8
Tänak/Breen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIYw24AfoTw Breen on the sunnier day

about lack of speed, uncutting etc....you never know what they are testing unless you are in the team.

i see him cutting a lot on your pics :D

[rp]

Tänak:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QADWngeKQa0
&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5sA07KLeVM

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLr9YotuZU4

[Eli]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rpPm7603q8
Tänak/Breen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIYw24AfoTw Breen on the sunnier day

about lack of speed, uncutting etc....you never know what they are testing unless you are in the team.

i see him cutting a lot on your pics :D

The cars look amazing, as if they were competing in Wales Rally GB lol. Really hope we'll have Ypres running next month...doesn't look very promising atm...

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://youtu.be/lWJC24GZVr4

[dimviii]

Neuville
https://youtu.be/Oc_EiGCyfZc

[er88]

Very strange videos of Tanak. Driving like a gentleman driver.

Does the car sound a bit off to anyone? Maybe just the audio, or wind affecting the footage etc.

[dimviii]

Paul Fraikin
tS2hspom1 nsmdhoredrfin
Sébastien Ogier should come TEST soon for Ypres Rally WRC (with Elfyn Evans Kalle Rovanperä Takamoto Katsuta - 勝 田 貴 元) in the territory of a charming little French village.
>>> BIG PROBLEM: the Prefecture of Nord-Pas-de-Calais (to which the request was submitted a long time ago) has still NOT given its consent ...

[EstWRC]

gentlemen driver Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXGEEmXqAfg

[TypeR]

gentlemen driver Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXGEEmXqAfg

should give his seat to someone fasteer.. :D

[denkimi]

Very strange videos of Tanak. Driving like a gentleman driver.

Does the car sound a bit off to anyone? Maybe just the audio, or wind affecting the footage etc.
Hard to tell how fast it actually is without knowing how slippery the surface is. Some types of asphalt feel almost like snow when they are wet and dirty.

[cali]

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[EstWRC]

something to see/write about for our aero writer llluisva555

Hyundai tested yesterday new font diveplanes at Kehala rally, doesnt open the direct picture links with mobile.

https://sport.delfi.ee/news/auto/eesti/fotod-ja-blogi-ott-tanak-voitis-kehala-ralli-suure-eduga-linnamae-tegi-viimasel-kiiruskatsel-avarii?id=91668095#!dgs=dgsee-263807:Ekuwn8oSqvxAl2ZOL7IaT-
https://sport.delfi.ee/news/auto/eesti/fotod-ja-blogi-ott-tanak-voitis-kehala-ralli-suure-eduga-linnamae-tegi-viimasel-kiiruskatsel-avarii?id=91668095#!dgs=dgsee-263807:7dfiaxrhq5zACMLXRgtchE
https://sport.delfi.ee/news/auto/eesti/fotod-ja-blogi-ott-tanak-voitis-kehala-ralli-suure-eduga-linnamae-tegi-viimasel-kiiruskatsel-avarii?id=91668095#!dgs=dgsee-263807:8YN6zVWEaPkAJWN2p9SdOq
https://sport.delfi.ee/news/auto/eesti/fotod-ja-blogi-ott-tanak-voitis-kehala-ralli-suure-eduga-linnamae-tegi-viimasel-kiiruskatsel-avarii?id=91668095#!dgs=dgsee-263807:ASmaXXL9q4q8wYPOZyJDZb

[mknight]

The serrated edge is certainly something new that nobody else tried so far. The modification of the bottom plane is more like C3 non-homologqted aero.

Anyway still after 3 years and 2 modifications that add front downforce they still want more. (but yeah they added rear downforce with the previous front mod at start of this year too)

[EstWRC]

Tänak at Kehala rally (warning for awful music)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDemGCCNuCI

[lluisva555]

Thank you, EstWRC, here's our review, hope you enjoy it.

https://www.wrcwings.tech/2020/11/15/new-evolution-of-the-hyundais-front-aero-package-tested-at-kehala-ralli/

They tested some other small changes also. And yes, mknight, they keep searching for more front downforce, to balance the excess generated at the rear.

[EstWRC]

Sordo was testing with Hyundai today and Rovanpera with Toyota for MOnza

interesting rim stuff going on here ? or those are just like covers?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Enm0UfsXcAEx_E1?format=jpg&name=medium

[wyler]

mud/ice cover?
we saw this before, i think...

[T16]

One of the best onboard videos I’ve seen.

https://twitter.com/kallerovanpera/status/1331322254672728067?s=21

[Essaj]

One of the best onboard videos I’ve seen.

https://twitter.com/kallerovanpera/status/1331322254672728067?s=21

Here is the full version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRcwvlf-JCo
Pretty epic!

[EstWRC]

That’s awesome.

Alllive should have an option like this

[T16]

I've been lucky enough to sit in the passenger seat of an older WRC car and this video comes closest to capturing what it feels like.
Incredible footage.
I really hope rallying can use camera work like this to bring new fans in.

[Franky]

That’s awesome.

Alllive should have an option like this

I believe it is a safety issue and also the reason why we only see helmet cams from tests. Guess it would be approved only, if the camera is part of the helmet and not attached onto the helmet.

[dimviii]

Κalle
https://youtu.be/exH2IJleRDo

[mknight]

Κalle
https://youtu.be/exH2IJleRDo

What's the point with the black center of the rims? Don't think I have seen that before.

Reminds me of the black cooling things on Lancia Delta, but this does not seem to be for cooling.

[dimviii]

What's the point with the black center of the rims? Don't think I have seen that before.

Reminds me of the black cooling things on Lancia Delta, but this does not seem to be for cooling.

we have seen that at citroen wrc cars.Probably to keep clean the rim bolts from mud and debris.


https://www.mad4wheels.com/img/free-car-images/mobile/9590/citroen-ds3-wrc-rally-of-monaco-2012-330014.jpg
https://media.citroenracing.com/sites/default/files/styles/cropping_image/public/field/image/67/_MTR6342_0.jpg?itok=SuDv4vrC

[dimviii]

Tanak today
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158805637894839&id=775114838&sfnsn=scwspmo

[AnttiL]

That’s awesome.

Alllive should have an option like this

Sorry to be boring, but FIA thinks it's not safe to put cameras on the helmets, or even on the seats.

This camera angle, attached to the seat, is not allowed anymore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMIKuS2Bz1k

Also if you think the helmet camera would be streamed online, it means there would have to be a cable attached to it (not just recording on a memory card) which would be another safety issue if the driver has to exit the car quickly.

[wyler]

Sorry to be boring, but FIA thinks it's not safe to put cameras on the helmets, or even on the seats.

This camera angle, attached to the seat, is not allowed anymore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMIKuS2Bz1k

Also if you think the helmet camera would be streamed online, it means there would have to be a cable attached to it (not just recording on a memory card) which would be another safety issue if the driver has to exit the car quickly.

Something similar may be achieved with a camera mount from the rooftop, just behind the seats, and a wide-angle camera. (sure not driver pov, but a nice cockpit + road shoot)

[T16]

Sorry to be boring, but FIA thinks it's not safe to put cameras on the helmets, or even on the seats.

This camera angle, attached to the seat, is not allowed anymore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMIKuS2Bz1k

Also if you think the helmet camera would be streamed online, it means there would have to be a cable attached to it (not just recording on a memory card) which would be another safety issue if the driver has to exit the car quickly.

If the FIA see the video, you'd like to think that someone will see that it can possibly do a lot of good for the sport and look at solutions. The cams haven't been great recently and it could be a boost for viewing figures.
The tweet from Rovanpera has gained a pleasant amount of comments from a lot of motorsport journals, who, whilst clearly aware of rallying, don't seem to say much about it usually.
Regarding exit time from the car - surely it wouldn't take any longer if the cable is located next to the intercom cable?

[EstWRC]

i knew all the safety things guys.

its just my wishful thinking that ALLLIVE would had it.

and T16 is right, that clip has gone viral everywhere, people love it.

[Franky]

Regarding exit time from the car - surely it wouldn't take any longer if the cable is located next to the intercom cable?

It should be one cable in that case. Thought there would be development cost but F1 has had helmet cams for some time (and I haven't followed that series for years now). So just a question of having such helmet for rallying available with good enough image quality.

Regarding recording, the recorder does not need to be part of the helmet. There are plenty of examples where the lens/sensor unit is separate from the media.

[dimviii]

Ogier today
https://twitter.com/TGR_WRC/status/1331653508282667009

[EstWRC]

Kalle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPP9PPMaWrI

[br21]

As much as I like those helmet cams in rally cars I also know in general it's dangerous in case of accident and FIA will never allow it...

[AnttiL]

Regarding recording, the recorder does not need to be part of the helmet. There are plenty of examples where the lens/sensor unit is separate from the media.

Obviously, but it still needs a cable from the lens to the recording media / transmitter for live stream. Like said, it could be modified to use the same cable for the camera and intercom, but it would require all helmets to be prepared for the camera and more possibilities for the intercom to fail during the stage.

[EstWRC]

Short clips of Ott here https://www.instagram.com/p/CIBaoYOhIsN/?igshid=150ya4fo9y11f

[mknight]

Short clips of Ott here https://www.instagram.com/p/CIBaoYOhIsN/?igshid=150ya4fo9y11f
Doesn't have the new front aero that he drove on the Estonian? rally.

[pantealex]

Doesn't have the new front aero that he drove on the Estonian? rally.

All parts must be approved by FIA and they are not doing it every week...

Local - and FIA rallies have different rules.

[AnttiL]

All parts must be approved by FIA and they are not doing it every week...

Local - and FIA rallies have different rules.

and you can only have a certain amount of homologation jokers in a year. Perhaps they've already used their jokers for this year?

[mknight]

Or they found out it was not so big improvement, or some other completely different reason. (For example not making enough parts before the rally).

Just pointing out the difference.

Remember how they used new diffuser with central exhaust during like a whole week of pre-monte tests this year and then they showed up with side-exhaust (but upgraded diffuser) on the Monte itself and used it ever since. That was massively weird.

[dimviii]

Neuville today
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158807756704839&id=775114838&sfnsn=scwspmo

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Greensmith at a UK track this morning.

https://instagram.com/stories/gusgreensmith/2450439184730478764?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=1lhrzg5gihww7

Edit - Strangely it was at Goodwood.

[Andre Oliveira]

Yesterday.

[EstWRC]

Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOZXkTlWAG8

[tc10a]

Neuville - Monte Carlo like: https://www.facebook.com/jessica.rosa.923/videos/3726994390693645/

[wyler]

I live at 130 km from stages, here at night is below 0°, morning and evening stage can be well iced.

[EstWRC]

Neuville https://youtu.be/rO1eulKtjmI

[dimviii]

Neuville
https://twitter.com/Bartolbia84/status/1332060604585152523

[mknight]

Neuville https://youtu.be/rO1eulKtjmI

Might be just an impression but the turn-in seems to be better than at Monte and much better than 2-3 years ago.

[dimviii]

Might be just an impression but the turn-in seems to be better than at Monte and much better than 2-3 years ago.

fyi video is playing faster

[dimviii]

Veiby testing for Monza with wrc i20
https://twitter.com/OCVeiby/status/1332053568711512065

[MartijnS]

fyi video is playing faster

Every time you say that and I never see it haha!

[SubaruNorway]

fyi video is playing faster

It's just the 50fps making it look different, also good filming making it look extra fast compared to all the phone video's on here

[dimviii]

It's just the 50fps making it look different

what do you mean different?

[mknight]

I am not talking about the speed. But what the car does when going into corners. No throwing in sideways even into mid-speed corners like used to be Neuville's standard. Also rear wheel lifting while 2 years ago the car would just understeer while staying completely level.
Off course looking different doesn't meant it's faster.

[wyler]

what do you mean different?

50p make images sharper/crisper. also reduce motion blur so moving object seems snappy/faster/ore focused.
sometimes that's translate into a bit "unreal" feeling (but just get used and will become the new normal)

[dimviii]

50p make images sharper/crisper. also reduce motion blur so moving object seems snappy/faster/ore focused.
sometimes that's translate into a bit "unreal" feeling (but just get used and will become the new normal)

what i see is a faster video from real.Also is different the sound at gear changes(faster),as the antilag noise when lift off.
Also if you watch the moving of the leafs at the road, when the car passes,they move totally unrealistic from the wind (faster)
Last years are plenty of videos like these.

[EstWRC]

Huttunen testing the new Hyundai R5/Rally 2 2021 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_go9zsFOxM&feature=youtu.be

[Franky]

I think it's the player or equipment it's being viewed on that makes the difference.

Human eye has a great "resolution" but the frame rate is quite poor and with high frame rate videos the only advantage you get is less motion blur. But that can be achieved by filming with higher shutter speed even in standard 25fps.

[EstWRC]

Every time you say that and I never see it haha!

usually i dont see it too but this time i agree with dimviii.

some accelerations from hairpins look unrealistically fast, launching like a rocket. also some fast turn changes.

but its not like on the whole video, just some parts.

[wyler]

usually i dont see it too but this time i agree with dimviii.

some accelerations from hairpins look unrealistically fast, launching like a rocket. also some fast turn changes.

but its not like on the whole video, just some parts.

try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpDT86tJSlI
I guess you feel it even more...

[dimviii]

try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpDT86tJSlI
I guess you feel it even more...

this is even faster playing

[EstWRC]

Hyundai and Toyota for Monza https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW5yHt4nFzY

[EstWRC]

Evans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXzY4fIIqrw

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDo7D8y6fLQ
Sordo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT0zpKUXLQI&t=12s

[EstWRC]

Tänak testing the new Hyundai rally2 https://youtu.be/vx70zmik-vg

[dimviii]

Katsuta
https://youtu.be/AiCJrFO0Ra4

[EstWRC]

pics of Tänak testing the Hyundai Rally2 https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1107397366385005&set=pcb.1107400966384645

https://scontent-hel3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/128691563_1107397376385004_5781296682450393473_o.j pg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=znsjaaWuyvQAX9KXUk5&_nc_ht=scontent-hel3-1.xx&oh=52ac0dc8a3f33c23c1b3f30d7cf82cf4&oe=5FE9A91B

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Toksport test on snowy road is on their Instagram 'story'.

[dimviii]

Κatsuta helmet cam testing for Monza
https://youtu.be/DmdXt9uiBkg

[mknight]

Κatsuta helmet cam testing for Monza
https://youtu.be/DmdXt9uiBkg

Sadly it highlights one of the issues of a helmet cam... the shaking. Head-neck has some "compensation lag" which results in shaking that feels natural for the person itself cause he feels the acceleration in the head, but very unnatural to the viewer.

Obviously this is worse for tarmac with hard setup and bumps, should work much better on gravel.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Solberg, Mikkelsen & Lindholm testing today.

[SubaruNorway]

Sadly it highlights one of the issues of a helmet cam... the shaking. Head-neck has some "compensation lag" which results in shaking that feels natural for the person itself cause he feels the acceleration in the head, but very unnatural to the viewer.

Obviously this is worse for tarmac with hard setup and bumps, should work much better on gravel.

Probably one of the older Gopro's and not stuck on very well, if you use one of the newest Gopro's it will be super smooth

[mknight]

Probably one of the older Gopro's and not stuck on very well, if you use one of the newest Gopro's it will be super smooth
But how do you avoid the "slower" head moves? Watching downhillbiking headcam is fine for me but for some reason I have yet to find a helmetcam in rally car on tarmac that doesn't make me dizzy.

[dimviii]

Veiby and Kajto testing for Monza
https://youtu.be/8_FPqnIIucA

[mknight]

Mikkelsen testing on same road as Hyundai with WRCs:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jLtoDRJdAM0

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen testing on same road as Hyundai with WRCs:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jLtoDRJdAM0

very nice livery

[dimviii]

Solberg
https://youtu.be/5xpyvhZUREU

[dimviii]

Lindholm
https://youtu.be/M7TXzi66GUM

[Andre Oliveira]

Expect tests soon.

43 days to Monte-Carlo... and black rounds Pirelli tyres to test :)

[EstWRC]

Thierry said in the interview that they start already next week.

[mknight]

I am wondering if this testing will actually be much more about testing the tires (and setup for them) than any development.
Afaik Pirelli hasn't actually done much testing of the tires in cold weather at all.

Also in R5 snow/wet tires it seems that it roughly it goes like this in temperature/softness scale from softest (left) to hardest (right):
Michelin Snow>Pirelli Snow>Michelin wet >Pirelli wet>Michelin soft slick >Pirelli soft slick


We are not on gravel yet, but I really hope they abandon the "medium" gravel tire idea. Since it basically removed any real tire differences on most gravel rallies. Before picking soft or hard could result in big differences, now it's soft+med or med+hard and rarely any difference at all.

[EstWRC]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/wrc-teams-to-start-2021-testing-in-france-this-week/


Hyundai is already looking towards Monte-Carlo 2021! In the Hautes-Alpes, @OttTanak is in action today on a partially snow-covered base #WRC


https://twitter.com/RallyeSport/status/1336234384266063874?s=20

[EstWRC]

first pics of Tänak http://www.rallye-infos.site/hyundai-prepare-deja-2021/

again new front diveplanes?

E: no they seem the ones that were tested at Kehala rally

[dimviii]

Tanak
https://twitter.com/i/status/1336240857058521088

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/ThibaultPascal/status/1336247234657210368

https://twitter.com/ThibaultPascal/status/1336247789530062848

[EstWRC]

welcome back Pirelli!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eoty-CrXMAM3apb?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eoty-CjW8AEaLQ2?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eoty-CoXUAIclnL?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eoty-CkXUAEL66I?format=jpg&name=large


https://twitter.com/RallyeI/status/1336288174541303808?s=20

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EouE-YhXEAEv8wr?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EouE_32XMAMJ-lH?format=jpg&name=large


https://twitter.com/Traxx_WiF/status/1336307955436843008?s=20

[EstWRC]

perfect condiitons for Tänak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aksCvD0L3w&feature=youtu.be

[Andre Oliveira]

The stars of today, black round Pirelli

Pic of Nora Coline

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EouP2emUwAEQoso?format=jpg&name=medium

[mknight]

For me the most interesting part of that picture is the detailed look on that front aero mess they have now.

[Eli]

The stars of today, black round Pirelli

Pic of Nora Coline

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EouP2emUwAEQoso?format=jpg&name=medium

Have to say it doesn't look natural after such a long time with Michelin, it's funny to think that exactly next year it's 10 years since we made the switch from Pirelli to Michelin and now it's the other way round. Hopefully the tires will be good enough and won't post problems like they do in F1.

[mknight]

I am not following F1, but afaik some years ago there was push to make the different tire options very different. I.e. supersoft should be much faster than say medium and also degrade much faster. Essentially a push to make tires "worse" and less allround.

Pretty similar to what I am saying about banning medium gravel tires.

[EstWRC]

https://twitter.com/hugo_blancher/status/1336332937088749568?s=20

[Mirek]

Pirelli tyres have been working good on R5 cars. There is no reason to expect them underperforming in WRC. Also Pirelli always had the advantage that they loose studs way less than other brands due to different production technology.

[EstWRC]

Tänak by lolowrc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I05GLp08ys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDHVxs28aN4

[Andre Oliveira]

Because the non sense rule of unique supplier... no problem. All crews with same tyres :)

[Andre Oliveira]

Video by SudRallye: https://youtu.be/bm3RS4IWHr0

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7s9DpRzbCo&t=2s

[EstWRC]

Video by SudRallye: https://youtu.be/bm3RS4IWHr0

thanks, i was waiting a video from him.

always very good ones

[dimviii]

thanks, i was waiting a video from him.

always very good ones

i d like to see and yaris at same stage.

[SubaruNorway]

I guess Kubica was on slicks, but quite a big difference
https://youtu.be/zZQKepbGKiI

[EstWRC]

gallery https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=BastienRouxPhotographie&set=a.237064717775494

https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/130721566_237062161109083_6215991015926289161_o.jp g?_nc_cat=108&ccb=2&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=ZSPJj0x2MAIAX9NaeKC&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=c88569682d0d1c8ea8fab4de0c941839&oe=5FF54D78

[dimviii]

Τanak video2rallye83

https://youtu.be/cAFIWfUjSB8

[EstWRC]

by rallyechrono https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA5MvYhtxvk

[dimviii]

by rallyechrono https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA5MvYhtxvk

every video i see,the more i want to see Ogier and Evans at same part.

[EstWRC]

To see how the Toyota behaves?

How the Hyundai and Ott looks dimviii?

[dimviii]

To see how the Toyota behaves?

How the Hyundai and Ott looks dimviii?

yes its a demanding place for suspension,thats why i want to see also Toyotas.
At last 2 videos he is pretty fast,identically fast as Kubica imho.
He pass with full gas(not antilag noise at all) bouncing and lifting the whole car through the cuts.
Hyundai seems better than fiesta at suspension,after the ''landings'' no bouncing at all,more stable.
I think the toyota will be better,but we have to watch it.

[EstWRC]

yes its a demanding place for suspension,thats why i want to see also Toyotas.
At last 2 videos he is pretty fast,identically fast as Kubica imho.
He pass with full gas(not antilag noise at all) bouncing and lifting the whole car through the cuts.
Hyundai seems better than fiesta at suspension,after the ''landings'' no bouncing at all,more stable.
I think the toyota will be better,but we have to watch it.

Thanks and one more https://youtu.be/fNGKLjhHpKY

[dimviii]

ΑΑ26 video

https://youtu.be/PpaOmnVHSGw

[mknight]

There are more vids from this testing than from Monza saturday stages.

[dimviii]

Neuville today,at least we will see him at the same spot.
https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1336605048428748800

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1336618834736910336

[EstWRC]

first pics in also http://www.rallye-infos.site/place-aujourdhui-a-neuville/

[mknight]

first pics in also http://www.rallye-infos.site/place-aujourdhui-a-neuville/

He has different front aero than Tanak.
Lower diveplane is new (with big edge), top diveplane is old (without serrated edge).

[EstWRC]

and Breen testing the rally2 https://twitter.com/Burgrid7/status/1336606494968713218?s=20

Hyundai working hard on next year

[dimviii]

Νeuville
https://twitter.com/hugo_blancher/status/1336629532393168897

[mknight]

Νeuville
https://twitter.com/hugo_blancher/status/1336629532393168897

at 0:33, is he back to his "always use handbrake to turn"?

[dimviii]

he didnt use handbrake.Probably dirt on road(visible from the dust it creates his pass) and snow tyres

[EstWRC]

Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-rotVuqDK8

not the same road unfortunately dimviii

[EstWRC]

Neuville by lolowrc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWDiSEO3Pcc&feature=youtu.be

[mknight]

Neuville by lolowrc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWDiSEO3Pcc&feature=youtu.be

On this vid he has both the "mixed" old top diveplane+new lower plane front (orange top plane) and the fully new one (black top plane and blue lower one).

[EstWRC]

sudrallye https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn1V6kwJVTk

[lluisva555]

He has different front aero than Tanak.
Lower diveplane is new (with big edge), top diveplane is old (without serrated edge).

Also the Gurney flaps on the fender winglet and on the front fender top surface were maintained... I guess they had to replace the upper planes because of reliability issues. Today they have used some black (new?) ones

[dimviii]

Neuville

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo0MR4QXEAcdhOV?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo0MUQLW8AAyvyr?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo0MRKnXMAwdgkc?format=jpg&name=large

[TypeR]

Rumours say that Tänak tested Hyundai's 2022 prototype car..
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIlbOP5jG_I/?igshid=1j8ug73daz85a

[EstWRC]

rallyechrono https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO83GSID6E0
checkpointrallye https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__faDS963J0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEvDQ8wnioI

[EstWRC]

Breen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIkaJuv1JQE&feature=emb_title

[EstWRC]

Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKf1gl9rMcY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39PW8dPrwrQ

[dimviii]

Sordo
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/1336984780454449153

[mknight]

Again testing both diveplane combinations.

[EstWRC]

yes yes mknight, thats what testing is for

Sordo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1XMOjjD-34

[EstWRC]

lolowrc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ameUReKAqOI&t=1s

[dimviii]

Sordo by sudrallye
https://youtu.be/-qNGYmPhWzQ

[EstWRC]

by rallyechrono https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqIsxl7PMQ

Toyota on the same road dimviii https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9bSs7zAzEU&t


so sad these cars are gone in a year, just look at the vids from past 3 days and the speed they are carrying on these amazing roads

[dimviii]

mate toyota video is from 2019

[Andre Oliveira]

by rallyechrono https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqIsxl7PMQ

Toyota on the same road dimviii https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9bSs7zAzEU&t


so sad these cars are gone in a year, just look at the vids from past 3 days and the speed they are carrying on these amazing roads

Next ones will be equal.

[EstWRC]

mate toyota video is from 2019

i know but at least something

[EstWRC]

Breen day2 rally2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve66_Fh5BU8

[EstWRC]

Sordo https://youtu.be/Wiey-hInEJM

[EstWRC]

Ogier today https://twitter.com/thibaultpascal/status/1337319937732464641?s=21

[dimviii]

Οgier
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/1337340779728166912

https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/1337338271844732928

[Andre Oliveira]

Like the conditions.

[dimviii]

Οgier
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/1337363424339169281
https://twitter.com/ThibaultPascal/status/1337331363284860928
https://twitter.com/RallySportMag/status/1337365626734530560

[EstWRC]

Ogier by lolo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GcZKxe_zQ4

[dimviii]

WRCWings
@llluis555
Merci! Toyota testing new (bigger) winglets on top of the front fenders to obtain more front downforce (grip) #WRC #WRClive #WRCliveES

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo8mTdgWMAc9Z4u?format=jpg&name=small

[dimviii]

Ogier by sudrallye
https://youtu.be/7_8DW4JbD8M

[dimviii]

Οgier
https://youtu.be/pkWbSThLU4g

[dimviii]

Οgier
https://youtu.be/3-_uug4BcqQ

any French speaking mate to translate if he said something new at his interview?

[EstWRC]

By rallyechrono https://youtu.be/JHFUZrjQ784
https://youtu.be/JHFUZrjQ784

[EstWRC]

Evans today , this front aero stuff is getting crazy https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1337675159935836162?s=21

[dimviii]

By rallyechrono https://youtu.be/JHFUZrjQ784

at 3,12 a small exit

[dimviii]

Ogier by aa26
https://youtu.be/rBC268VE88g

[dimviii]

Ogier by toutavcable video

https://youtu.be/69jn8eOOtfU

[EstWRC]

at 3,12 a small exit

Also here https://youtu.be/Tg-vDiH176s

The same place?

[dimviii]

yes

[Essaj]

Rovanperä today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8vqAFvEQl8&feature=youtu.be
By Luminy13

[Andre Oliveira]

Evans today , this front aero stuff is getting crazy https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1337675159935836162?s=21

Today is Kalle

[EstWRC]

Kalle https://youtu.be/nqKy1671pdA

[dimviii]

Kalle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4efFQdMp4E&feature=youtu.be

[dimviii]

a close one

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpEODliXIAcQXUa?format=jpg&name=medium

[TypeR]

Plain stupid thing to spend thooooousands of euros..
Haven't seen anybody(who has lost some small aero piece), losing tens of seconds coz of that..
It isn't circuit racing..

[mknight]

Plain stupid thing to spend thooooousands of euros..
Haven't seen anybody(who has lost some small aero piece), losing tens of seconds coz of that..
It isn't circuit racing..

Meeke won stage without windscreen. By that logic, lets remove windscreens of all cars...

[EstWRC]

So Evans not testing this week https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/toyota-and-hyundai-try-pirellis-in-monte-carlo-rally-test/

[AnttiL]

Meeke won stage without windscreen. By that logic, lets remove windscreens of all cars...

Didn’t win a stage in Chile. Elsewhere?

[tommeke_B]

Plain stupid thing to spend thooooousands of euros..
Haven't seen anybody(who has lost some small aero piece), losing tens of seconds coz of that..
It isn't circuit racing..

I think the teams will decide for themselves what's most rewarding to invest in. The fact that since the beginning (2017) they continuously work on the aero, means there's something to be won with it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So Evans not testing this week https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/toyota-and-hyundai-try-pirellis-in-monte-carlo-rally-test/

'Skipped test"... reports say he has Covid-19.

[doubled1978]

'Skipped test"... reports say he has Covid-19.

I read that too.

[doubled1978]

Does anyone have any insight on whether the switch to Pirelli will have an impact on the competitive order? Suit some more than others? I might be doing Pirelli a disservice, but I can’t help feel we might see more punctures.

[dimviii]

Does anyone have any insight on whether the switch to Pirelli will have an impact on the competitive order? Suit some more than others? I might be doing Pirelli a disservice, but I can’t help feel we might see more punctures.

imho pirelli always had durable tyres at wrc,but for sure a different tyre from michelin will require different settings and fine tuning for the cars.
Lets see which team will find them faster.
Rovanpera drove only at snow/slush at tests? didnt saw any video on tarmac?

[EstWRC]

Breen rally2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p9JO6vi64s&feature=youtu.be

[dimviii]

Κatsuta
https://youtu.be/dcBihp4EHA8

[EstWRC]

Katsuta-san https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IUCxOTv5dE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaFAQj6altc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxPXLrKfX1o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfeDK9LW7VM

[Andre Oliveira]

Katsuta with Juho

[EstWRC]

Loubet https://youtu.be/E5JRULvCZ6g

[dimviii]

Loubet
https://youtu.be/m738MKirHgE

[mknight]

Loubet is using some pretty weird hybrid aero config there:
- post Estonia 2020 front aero (but older that the one tested by main team a week ago)

- pre Monte 2020 diffuser ( last used in 2019 by main team)
- pre Monte 2020 roof vent
- old fills in rear side skirts/wheel archers)
- old rear wing (think it was also updated a year ago)

I get that they might have some spare parts to use and that understeer has been biggest problem historically. But still think it's strange that they run a config that was never seen in filmed tests or used in a rally before.
Also wonder how this works with rules.

Will be interesting to see what config he uses in the rally itself.

[EstWRC]

Best of Test WRC Rallye Monte Carlo 2011-2021 - RallyeChrono

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B23WKkfGsYQ

[EstWRC]

Evans finally testing and again a lot of snow for the test as in december for Toyota https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=TjeBVt-fnSA&feature=share

http://www.rallye-infos.site/evans-ouvre-le-bal-des-tests/

https://i2.wp.com/www.rallye-infos.site/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Audi09.jpg

[EstWRC]

Evans https://youtu.be/bKuJLIcN7dE

[dimviii]

Εvans
https://youtu.be/iWB51pZ93LE

[dimviii]

Evans
https://youtu.be/wzNsXVmfWoY?t=1

https://youtu.be/CkJv4KXfdeM

[dimviii]

Evans aa 26 video
https://youtu.be/dR6lBYRghq0

toutavcable video
https://youtu.be/RwflEEd2zQw

[EstWRC]

Evans day2, he can now finally test the slick tyre too http://www.rallye-infos.site/seconde-journee-pour-evans/

[EstWRC]

And also Neuville today http://www.rallye-infos.site/thierry-neuville-demarre-pour-hyundai/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[RallyeInfos]

Bonjour les amis ça roule ce matin, merci de m'accueillir, place à Evans qui entame sa seconde journée et Neuville pour Hyundai.

2022

2023

2024

2025

[dimviii]

Neuville small clip
https://twitter.com/hugo_blancher/status/1348193376391360512

Evans
https://twitter.com/llluis555/status/1348221965023240195

[dimviii]

Εvans
https://youtu.be/p9kGr00Zn2k

[EstWRC]

Neuville https://youtu.be/6r-RPkXNWjU

[EstWRC]

Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV5RhNJa9PQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_xwmv2A-BI

[EstWRC]

Evans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwaehaznOOM
Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJgSDvhGpqo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYlIpHzJkPg

[EstWRC]

Evans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_bzKBphqRM

[T16]

Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV5RhNJa9PQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_xwmv2A-BI

What are the wise heads saying about Neuville's car in the top video?

It looks mega soft and he looks like he's got a shit load of confidence in it - to me, but maybe someone can explain please what's really going on.

I watched the Evans video and his car looks a lot stiffer, but he seems fairly steady because of what's going on with the ice patches.

[dimviii]

What are the wise heads saying about Neuville's car in the top video?

It looks mega soft, but with stacks of grip and he looks like he's got a shit load of confidence in it - to me, but maybe someone can explain please what's really going on.

I watched the Evans video and his car looks a lot stiffer, but he seems fairly steady because of what's going on with the ice patches.

same impression as me,but lets wait to see more cars from both teams.

[EstWRC]

I agree about Neuville. Looks very confident and really pushing.

Actually all 3 Hyundai drivers looked already very confident to me on the vids a month ago.

[dimviii]

watch at 3 min
https://youtu.be/udfP8_qXOVU

[dimviii]

Neuville by rallyechrono
https://youtu.be/3loi5hJArtg

[EstWRC]

Evans https://youtu.be/5Imp_tnHssQ
https://youtu.be/Q3W5B8YseLA

[T16]

watch at 3 min
https://youtu.be/udfP8_qXOVU

That was a bit close.

Just that little bit at the end, when he’s on public road is enough to make the argument that these guys should always have road sections.

[EstWRC]

i only now noticed that they also tested the rim covers like Toyota has

https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/136987282_1863677517128715_8953284795602505829_o.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=2&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=PhrVPBcmJckAX9Mmwv9&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=1a809624141d7d8aa84a245574438e68&oe=602012D9


credit https://www.facebook.com/julienpixelrallye/photos/pcb.1863678340461966/1863677507128716

[mknight]

That was a bit close.

Just that little bit at the end, when he’s on public road is enough to make the argument that these guys should always have road sections.

Quite many times in the vid he is oversteering a lot on power (also on this spot on a pass earlier).

Could it be that they changed power bias to the back (like Toyota on tarmac and before that Citroen) that they now start getting this?

[dimviii]

Quite many times in the vid he is oversteering a lot on power (also on this spot on a pass earlier).

Could it be that they changed power bias to the back (like Toyota on tarmac and before that Citroen) that they now start getting this?

have in mind that they are in different tyres,and they need to fine tune again.

[T16]

Quite many times in the vid he is oversteering a lot on power (also on this spot on a pass earlier).

Could it be that they changed power bias to the back (like Toyota on tarmac and before that Citroen) that they now start getting this?

Wasn’t it just too fast from dry into ice?

[EstWRC]

Kalle today for Toyota https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1348572450234265600?s=20

and Tänak for Hyundai and dimviii it seems he is using exactly the same road as Neuville yesterday ;)

E: also Loubet and Solberg testing today, lets hope we get vids of everyone

[dimviii]

Solberg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErcbDukXYA0xCDy?format=jpg&name=900x900


Kalle small clips
https://twitter.com/ThibaultPascal/status/1348576000054013954

https://twitter.com/ThibaultPascal/status/1348574488947019777

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1348572450234265600

[EstWRC]

Kalle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlIlrAdcCvs&feature=youtu.be

[Sulland]

Oliver in Danish colors!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ5-6oksHs9/

https://twitter.com/OliverSolberg01

[AMSS]

Solberg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErcbDukXYA0xCDy?format=jpg&name=900x900


Kalle small clips
https://twitter.com/ThibaultPascal/status/1348576000054013954

https://twitter.com/ThibaultPascal/status/1348574488947019777

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1348572450234265600

Oliver testing today in France when the other already have started Recce for Arctic rally :) :) also Juha Salos co-driver Mikko Markkula is now in Rovaniemi doing the recce and than probably straight to Monte Carl recce alongside Teemu Suninen.. busy times for them

[Andre Oliveira]

Oliver in Danish colors!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ5-6oksHs9/

https://twitter.com/OliverSolberg01

It is the car of MRF. Still in that livery.

[TypeR]

Oliver in Danish colors!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ5-6oksHs9/

https://twitter.com/OliverSolberg01

It's the car that Breen drove with last year (MRF Tyres colours)

[EstWRC]

Kalle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq40Nvqkdnw

[EstWRC]

Kalle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1O2BmKPVmE

[EstWRC]

Loubet and Solberg https://youtu.be/_cBh0b6icaw

[TypeR]

Pretty quiet.. only few short instagram clips of Tänak today

[dimviii]

Τanak
https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial/status/1348636326950801408

[EstWRC]

Pretty quiet.. only few short instagram clips of Tänak today

there will be more vids in a few hours (usually they come later) but not much of Tänak (i guess) cause all of the main videomakers were filming others today, as i saw from their instagrams.

[EstWRC]

Loubet https://youtu.be/LDkj-Obkikw

[dimviii]

Tanak
https://youtu.be/fxNc3u6UmK8

[dimviii]

Solberg
https://youtu.be/tFPZghFequE

https://youtu.be/UPQc2pa4Axc

[EstWRC]

Solberg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPQc2pa4Axc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JKwLBUiVbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFPZghFequE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQmzDGW6J8M
Loubet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ypgAmfzu6g

both by rallyechrono https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn_RFu3j2kw

[EstWRC]

Tanak
https://youtu.be/fxNc3u6UmK8

meh, i hope at least one good quality vid surfaces

[EstWRC]

Rovanpera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a0PT7fj3vU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BOl9-PJKHk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1PCJFFfmn8
Loubet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OxlPfF4hm8

Loubet and Solberg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1GpWlSXq3k

[EstWRC]

Tänak, Solberg and Loubet gallery https://www.facebook.com/DimitriChaixPhotographie/posts/3525946064187100

https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/138401929_3525936074188099_3194467862887076805_o.j pg?_nc_cat=106&cb=846ca55b-ee17756f&ccb=2&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=WcuHwR6Fw00AX8PtzU0&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=7057397e25b406b708228e7a35a25ec2&oe=6021A3FC
https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/138121903_3525923440856029_455535187976488055_o.jp g?_nc_cat=111&ccb=2&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=T0ZVFL6FSWIAX88q_E5&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=74c3a42e84cf62a3fcca7f4ea79927be&oe=6023EC9A
https://scontent.ftll2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/138410307_3525922464189460_6170298343151073741_o.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=MUWCAk9-2-EAX8RgOZC&_nc_oc=AQnuhK2aH7Bl0FuxfDLzaGqQCx1UZeSWdGo0gAjsAkB k3g647RocLA3OtCzDm7lQsl0&_nc_ht=scontent.ftll2-1.fna&oh=2dd0bae101d97d96211d717fbb35d570&oe=60248623

[EstWRC]

So Ogier today for Toyota and interestingly Tänak again for Hyundai (Thierry had only one day)

i guess M-sport should also start any day now?

[dimviii]

Ogier
https://youtu.be/TWgmCJi1Vaw

[EstWRC]

Tänak today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkAD9yOGyyQ

[EstWRC]

Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3n4k_zTA0I

[Sulland]

Has Solberg gone to Finland today, or has he been testing in MC today also?

[dimviii]

Ogier
https://youtu.be/lGIsVbgFADY

[EstWRC]

Neuville was also testing today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4KWSZ3YKBc

[EstWRC]

Tänak and Neuville https://youtu.be/K6dVtvwbY7U

[dimviii]

Οgier
https://youtu.be/87w-9YXXWzg

[EstWRC]

Neuville/Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61ChVPZESpk

Neuville vs rabbit also in that vid

[dimviii]

Οgier
https://youtu.be/9zbhb2L4iuU

[EstWRC]

Tänak Day 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO39iYzcDiw
Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_ENwxIsnlU

[dimviii]

Sordo
https://youtu.be/Qfp5HRZISI4

[EstWRC]

Sordo/Neuville/Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAYpxocEP2U
Tänak Day 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPx8MqTCEQk
Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHXdxfxpTFE

[Tom K]

Seb and Julien’s second day of pre-Monte testing has been brought to an early conclusion after they went off the road this morning.

Both are OK, and Julien is going for routine checks.

[T16]

Sounds like Ogier has had a big one. Ingrassia is going for routine checks. Glad they seem ok.

[dimviii]

Toyota GAZOO Racing WRT
@TGR_WRC
Seb and Julien’s second day of pre-Monte testing has been brought to an early conclusion after they went off the road this morning.

Both are OK, and Julien is going for routine checks.

[EstWRC]

this seems the place https://imgur.com/a/hblPEul

[dimviii]

seems sideways to the tree. Hope everything is ok.

[dimviii]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/138182486_401164944278324_2040002166859664616_o.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=kohKvOW9vTIAX8Y1a3X&_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.xx&oh=f6eea4211ed52da91a842f0389a92d63&oe=602352FC

[EstWRC]

the back end seems to be hit very hard.

[dupanton]

Ogier is ok, Ingrassia to the hospital for check-up, but should be fine as well

[EstWRC]

lost it under braking according to those who were there

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErnVraRWMAItK6I?format=jpg&name=medium