WRC Testing

[EstWRC]

finally a decent vid of Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOYCWbtf0MA

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen
Arrived tonight on Corsica island. We do a two-day PET with @ElfynEvans and @MSportLtd, so that we are ready next week when it’s time to attack the stages of @TourdeCorseWRC for real! #WRC https://t.co/e3EnKbDG09

[dimviii]

Loeb
https://youtu.be/9kbdtEpzCH4

[EstWRC]

Suninen https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=zh_F_oCERwQ

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=zh_F_oCERwQ

Looking pretty rapid ! :cool:

[EstWRC]

Evans https://youtu.be/zeQ4X1cH7j4

[dimviii]

Latvala
https://youtu.be/oZTM709Lnas

[dimviii]

Sordo for Argentina test
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/1113034163765104640


Lappi at Arganil
https://twitter.com/PauloAr23028946/status/1112998180419985408

[dimviii]

Sordo
https://youtu.be/monvAjSG6qc

[dimviii]

Sordo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPPDM3Iwikc&feature=youtu.be

[dimviii]

Lappi
https://twitter.com/TM_Figueiredo/status/1113139216983232513

[dimviii]

Sordo
https://youtu.be/2ot19g_orik

[dimviii]

Sordo d10m video
https://youtu.be/LFNzoryrK6M

[dimviii]

Loeb
https://youtu.be/hIQUPQU1g1o

https://youtu.be/DisTjPlYelQ

https://youtu.be/bFzaVvdOO4s

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3QUepOWkAAhexo.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3QUepRWkAAFeYj.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3QJu-VWAAse8B4.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3QK4z5WkAMYvr5.jpg

[dimviii]

d10m video for Loeb
https://youtu.be/56kPzW5BNDM

[dimviii]

small clip with Neuville
https://twitter.com/thierryneuville/status/1113732838615076864

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier test for Argentina looks pretty realistic:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3T1iA9XkAcreGJ.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3T1isHWwAAAooo.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3T1jJgWkAAQAfM.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3T1jqlWsAIZyvg.jpg

[dimviii]

Neuville

https://youtu.be/UUoZipvHQYc

[EstWRC]

Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f-YC4OTFTk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRoWUI7j2LU

[EstWRC]

Ogier by D10M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVfMQ6_RRR0

[lluisva555]

Tänak Argentina PET https://twitter.com/TGR_WRC/status/1114825244269842432

[dimviii]

Latvala testing at Portugal
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3opxpSXsAITM4E.jpg

[mknight]

Well, if they again run this kind of setup it won’t be much of a surprise if radiator or front suspension brakes.

[dimviii]

Well, if they again run this kind of setup it won’t be much of a surprise if radiator or front suspension brakes.

thats why i posted this photo,even the corner has a camber,maybe he is on brakes,imho still looks very low.

[mknight]

thats why i posted this photo,even the corner has a camber,maybe he is on brakes,imho still looks very low.

Yes, it's not like the other cars never drive corners with cambers or are on brakes, yet all 3 barely ever seem to scratch anything at the front while Toyota pictures like this are common.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gus Greensmith also appears to be testing with M-Sport in Portugal (where he will drive a WRCar later in the year).

[racerx1979]

Who is Gus Greensmith? Is that the guy with a rich dad? Lol

[N.O.T]

Who is Gus Greensmith? Is that the guy with a rich dad? Lol

that description fits 90% of all WRC drivers good and bad alike.

[pedro16]

Gus Greensmith also appears to be testing with M-Sport in Portugal (where he will drive a WRCar later in the year).

Are you sure? Doesn't look much like Portugal. Maybe just an home test to get more used to the car. Seems a bit too early to be testing for Portugal since the conditions here are on the wet side and usually M-Sport tests for Portugal later. But with 2 weeks between Chile and Portugal i don't know really.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Who is Gus Greensmith? Is that the guy with a rich dad? Lol

At least he has talent to go with it, shown by winning WRC2 outright in Monte Carlo...

[pantealex]

At least he has talent to go with it, shown by winning WRC2 outright in Monte Carlo...

Yoann Bonato did win WRC2 in Monte-Carlo...

[pedro16]

Yoann Bonato did win WRC2 in Monte-Carlo...

Greensmith was 52 seconds faster than Bonato and won the rc2. Bonato won the WRC2 because Greensmith was on WRC2Pro
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/52398-rallye-automobile-de-monte-carlo-2019/?ct=1018

[the sniper]

Are you sure? Doesn't look much like Portugal. Maybe just an home test to get more used to the car. Seems a bit too early to be testing for Portugal since the conditions here are on the wet side and usually M-Sport tests for Portugal later. But with 2 weeks between Chile and Portugal i don't know really.

I've only seen pictures taken by David Evans, seemingly from Monday, of Elfyn's test. That looked to me to be Greystoke forest, M-Sport's local facility.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen
Let’s prepare for the South American trip as good as we can. This time we are in the famous Greystoke forest. Very familiar place for @MSportLtd. #WRC https://t.co/vHL4lWmxeu

[Rally Power]

Suninen
Let’s prepare for the South American trip as good as we can. This time we are in the famous Greystoke forest. Very familiar place for @MSportLtd. #WRC https://t.co/vHL4lWmxeu

Is MSport already in saving mode or is Greystoke not counting for tests days limit? After all other manus intensive testing in Portugal (using several locations in the North, Center and South of the country) for Argentina/Chile events, it’s a bit surpising to see MSport only using a local site.

[lluisva555]

Greystoke is so close to M-Sport facilities that it is very probably their nominated testing site.

Btw, we have done a compilation of 2019 aero modifications, jokers and tests days consumed up to present date by each team, together with planned modifications for the coming months, in our latest post, hope you enjoy it

https://www.wrcwings.tech/2019/04/10/2019-wrc-aero-development-after-the-first-4-events/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans test onboard: https://youtu.be/G6xj__FgdKs

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/ervixiVSvdY


Nikolay Gryazin
‏ @nikolay_gryazin

The second day of gravel tests is over. Tomorrow we need to rebuild, moving to a new place and have two more days of tests then.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport confirms why their test was at home not in Portugal:

"Our designers and engineers never stop working and just last week we completed a two-day development test in Greystoke forest.

“We won’t see everything we tested on the cars just yet, but the session provided an opportunity to test and confirm various gravel set-ups..."

[T16]

Greystoke is so close to M-Sport facilities that it is very probably their nominated testing site.

Btw, we have done a compilation of 2019 aero modifications, jokers and tests days consumed up to present date by each team, together with planned modifications for the coming months, in our latest post, hope you enjoy it

https://www.wrcwings.tech/2019/04/10/2019-wrc-aero-development-after-the-first-4-events/


I think they own the forest.

[AnttiL]

Yes, Greystoke is M-Sport's "free" testing site. But also notice the Chile roads are quite similar to those in England so they're focusing on that whereas everyone else is focusing on Argentina.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

How Toyota test on gravel:
http://www.mobil1thegrid.com/video/gravel-trap-toyota-gazoo-racing-fine-tune-yaris-wrc-rally-competition/

[Barreis]

Lampi still Makinen's right hand

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Similar M-Sport test video here:
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/142923/video-behind-the-scenes-at-msport-gravel-test

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/LPaanala/status/1121364749021798400

[EstWRC]

No rest if you want to be the best!

[Rally Power]

Similar M-Sport test video here:
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/142923/video-behind-the-scenes-at-msport-gravel-test

Strange to hear that Argentina stages can’t be replicated in Europe; Citroen and Hyundai spent a week in different locations at the North and Center of Portugal testing for it (and for Chile). They also gathered important data for Rally de Portugal; a sort of 3 in 1 that hardly can be done in Greystoke.

Toyota went to the South of Portugal (Algarve) and used some former RdP stages to prepare the South American events; they’ll come back in May for RdP PET. The tests footage (including Meeke onboard) on this preview video is from Algarve stages: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDphSZxrNKg


Btw, the images in the Mobil 1 video are from last February Toyota Mexico PET (in Almeria, Spain).

[lluisva555]

Videos of Skoda tests of the new Fabia R5 in Portugal

Kalle Rovanperä (by D10M)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=8hjdevUg4Do

Jan Kopecky (by MaisRally Racing Videos)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-kUuijC7es

Unfortunately, tests were interrupted after Kopecky accident today. Crew ok but car really damaged.

[lluisva555]

And here the video of the Kopecký accident, by AsportZ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=104&v=QCFhiFLK9Y0

[Barreis]

it thought it was much worse how the front end looks like on the photos

[dimviii]

it thought it was much worse how the front end looks like on the photos

me too.

[lluisva555]

Hyundai started today gravel tests in Sardegna with Dani Sordo, in preparation of the Italian event

https://twitter.com/rallyssimo/status/1128699007247822848

[lluisva555]

And more...

https://twitter.com/Bartolbia84/status/1128707589091545088

[dimviii]

Sordo today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6oa8QfWsAA2Bco.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6oa-ytXkAADMxM.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6obEKpX4AAcHBM.jpg

[lluisva555]

Kopecký testing the new Fabia R5 Evo in preparation of the Rally Český Krumlov 2019 where the car will make its debut next weekend - Excellent video by VFTVideo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2PeR4Yo7LM

[Rally Power]

MSport PET in the North of Portugal. Video by Pedro Figueiredo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY62QsJx2NM&feature=share

[EstWRC]

Suninen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5viJD_yRhWg
https://t.co/oUFFVf4STX

[dimviii]

nice small clips with Latvala at this chanell

https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/1129762752040452096

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ha ha :D

@GreensmithGus

Sorry Teemu, I’m taking the credit here !

https://twitter.com/GreensmithGus/status/1130065485540864000

[EstWRC]

Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enDQuTdekMo
Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B0PzL1Rx7w

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHTUEeo6mrs

[EstWRC]

Tänak http://youtu.be/uPnyeiNBDyA
Greensmith https://youtu.be/0ihRYbpb4Hw

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@GreensmithGus Portugal WRC Pre-Event Test:

https://t.co/EZ10IXcRLA

[EstWRC]

Another one of Tänak https://youtu.be/SFFejJlQrDI

[dimviii]

amazing video,even its a bit fast played.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6_8k12X4AA6Mcu.jpg

[dimviii]

Meeke
https://youtu.be/LcINYnntS84

[dimviii]

and a nice photo of Greensmith testing

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6_hzzrW0AAauWY.jpg

[dimviii]

https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/may-2019/neuville-test/page/6357--12-12-.html

[mknight]

Another one of Tänak https://youtu.be/SFFejJlQrDI

Check out 2:25 for the traditional front scraping and also check how the splitter is completely torn apart (plastic black part) across the whole width of the car.

I wonder how that is going to work in Portugal and Sardinia. Will they keep this risky setup or go for Turkey setup and loose some performance? Did they manage to find something that combines both? (doesn't look it was being used in this part of the vid)

[Ds3]

https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/may-2019/neuville-test/page/6357--12-12-.html

Someone expected something else to say ???

[dimviii]

Meeke from dm10 video
https://youtu.be/ZF4zpC5fOLE

[EstWRC]

Meeke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmJH1iTcRVg

[EstWRC]

Huttunen with the Hyundai i20 WRC on finnish roads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqWmrC2FF4I

[racerx1979]

Huttunen with the Hyundai i20 WRC on finnish roads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqWmrC2FF4I

Huttunen in Finland? Maybe bring out 4 cars to Finland since Hyundai is weak at that rally... just thoughts..

[Tarmop]

Probably that is their idea...

[doubled1978]

Huttunen in Finland? Maybe bring out 4 cars to Finland since Hyundai is weak at that rally... just thoughts..

I doubt they will bring 4 cars, but I have a suspicion that Huttunen might do Finland and Wales.
Also aren’t the major updates to the Hyundai due in time for Finland?

[AnttiL]

Huttunen’s manager Grönholm said they have rented the car, but who knows what’s happening behind the scenes

[Allez Andruet]

Huttunen’s manager Grönholm said they have rented the car, but who knows what’s happening behind the scenes

Maybe Bosse's just trying to imitate Tommi and talk all kind of non-sense.

[rp]

Huttunen’s manager Grönholm said they have rented the car, but who knows what’s happening behind the scenes

There is no sense to rent Hyundai for Finland, because Toyota would be much better. i20 WRC is the weakest World Rally Car in these conditions. Marcus has a good connection with Tommi and drove Yaris in Sweden and it should have been possible much easier in their own backyard.

Also Tuohino´s Fiesta WRC would be available to rent. They have to get a lot of support from Hyundai and at least it must be much cheaper if that car makes sense.

[TRW]

Huttunen’s manager Grönholm said they have rented the car, but who knows what’s happening behind the scenes

Wait a second, are we reached a point, where testing days are limited and now teams "rent" their cars to have fun between finnish forests?

[dimviii]

Wait a second, are we reached a point, where testing days are limited and now teams "rent" their cars to have fun between finnish forests?

could be the case!

[the sniper]

Nice footage of Oliver Solberg's test in Wales: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw3wnn_NrKM

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9eyjUJW4AADefS.jpg

[EstWRC]

new diffuser?

[Eli]

I saw on twitter that Eric Camilli will be testing the C3 WRC today? anyone can confirm?

Edit:
Just saw the News & Rumors Thread, nvr mind.

[dimviii]

small clip with Camilli
https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1141597583263092741

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1141608605923323904

https://twitter.com/hugo_blancher/status/1141652269508771840


https://youtu.be/2dmb3VZsGK8

[dimviii]

Camilli
https://youtu.be/iE17gO4Qh50

[EstWRC]

Milli Camilli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiqaDFloyZ0

[lluisva555]

Video of Lappi's Germany pre-event test today by Hervé Tusoli for Planetemarcus

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1142401321464733696

[lluisva555]

...and a nice article on rally tests by Italian website Rallyssimo.it

https://www.rallyssimo.it/2019/06/22/testato-rallysticamente-cosa-sono-e-come-funzionano-i-test-nei-rally/

[GRID.Media]

Test Lappi in Germany Tarmac:

https://youtu.be/Sx-j0-SpCaM

[dimviii]

Lappi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pllRDk6syQ

[EstWRC]

Short clip of Tänak testing in Finland today https://twitter.com/lpaanala/status/1143451854514339840?s=21

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68_bVjLvitM

[EstWRC]

Great vid Of Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOqj2X05q3k&t=


speeeeeeeddd

[EstWRC]

one more https://twitter.com/simmi781/status/1143590860145270785



Miika Wuorela
‏

@MiikaWuorela
7m7 minutes ago
More
Big thanks to @OttTanak and @TGR_WRC for this experience. ”I did not push at all as I did not want to break your back”. Thanks for that too �� - even if I would have wanted to see this ruthless predator in full attack mode.

https://twitter.com/MiikaWuorela/status/1143596936718626817

[EstWRC]

Latvala https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjrKPambL4w

[MotorsportManiac]

Some of my Pictures of Citroens first PET for Rally Germany are online! ;)

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-01/testcitroenensch_031.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-01/testcitroenensch_052.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-01/testcitroenensch_064.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-01/testcitroenensch_054.jpg

More HERE (https://rally3.de/bilder/saison-2019/testdeutschland/album-01/) :)

Gruß Kevin

[dimviii]

nice photos mate!

[wrc2017]

Meeke testing
https://twitter.com/LPaanala/status/1144250336431026176?s=19

[rp]

Meeke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66d7X61qO_U

[RS]

Rovanpera: https://youtu.be/umgxui_xYNU

[RS]

Better one with Rovanpera: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tSEL7_LTY

[EstWRC]

Meeke for Germany https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQiGx9bYkZo&t

[dimviii]

Μeeke
https://youtu.be/dx09JisxZzQ

[Devillersvideo]

Meeke today in Ensch

https://youtu.be/_pWcV6LG58g

1790

[dimviii]

Meeke today in Ensch

https://youtu.be/_pWcV6LG58g

1790

the way yaris is ''ironing'' the tarmac is from another planet.

[wrc2017]

the way yaris is ''ironing'' the tarmac is from another planet.
Certainly an impressive video

[dimviii]

Latvala
https://youtu.be/9Rl6_4Zkd1M

[EstWRC]

Latvala https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MmpGSg5gtE

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc0ssoO8dzk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ak1GF8siPA
https://youtu.be/__SJzdL1YJs

[EstWRC]

One more https://youtu.be/HIsYR59NURs

[GRID.Media]

Tänak in Deutschland testing:

https://youtu.be/O4dnlR2-HoY

[EstWRC]

Tänak in Deutschland testing:

https://youtu.be/O4dnlR2-HoY

thanks! good video!

here is one more of Ott https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e98n43cae_I

[mknight]

Hyundai (Mikkelsen) testing in Finland:

https://twitter.com/VuorinenHenri/status/1146701845961814016

https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1146694683965513728

first pic with revised front for more aero grip.

Still the whole situation is funny.
Hyundai had a similar front already until Spain 2017... and you can say it was the best car until then. For 2017 spain they removed one of the fins on each side to lower the downforce and subsequently they improved rear downforce with bigger Toyota-style wheel arches.
Since then the car struggled with massive understeer and now after almost 2 years they go "back" to almost same front as they had.

EDIT: 2017 front for comparison:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/image/349167/

[EstWRC]

nice catch, i actually didnt notice it in the morning when i first saw the pic.

the fins now look exactly like Toyota ones.

[mknight]

the fins now look exactly like Toyota ones.

...and Citroen. All 3 look very much the same.

Fiesta is also very close just that the top fin is connected further and not the bottom one.

[BigWorm]

Also additions to the splitter at each end (which is all new)

But indeed quite funny they reverted to the old concept of 2 fins, but new angles and positions may provide differences.

[dimviii]

Tänak in Deutschland testing:

https://youtu.be/O4dnlR2-HoY

amazing video,thanks!

[EstWRC]

Our review of the front aero modifications Hyundai has been testing today in Finland, thanks to the excellent pictures from @VuorinenHenri @HMSGOfficial @RallyFinland @WRCLive #WRC

https://t.co/bsxLQYd1IN


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-pedRYWsAEPYzC.jpg:large


credit https://twitter.com/llluis555/status/1146832913645867008

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZB506UKV64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7wGjUlMMwg

[dimviii]

Νeuville
https://youtu.be/Luv-JOQEddY

[mknight]

Νeuville
https://youtu.be/Luv-JOQEddY

Strange that he has old aero on the very start of the vid in wet while all the rest is new both in the dry and wet as far as I can see. Maybe someone spliced the vid with some older one?

[EstWRC]

doing back to back tests with old and new? to compare..

[racerx1979]

Hyundai (Mikkelsen) testing in Finland:

https://twitter.com/VuorinenHenri/status/1146701845961814016

https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1146694683965513728

first pic with revised front for more aero grip.

Still the whole situation is funny.
Hyundai had a similar front already until Spain 2017... and you can say it was the best car until then. For 2017 spain they removed one of the fins on each side to lower the downforce and subsequently they improved rear downforce with bigger Toyota-style wheel arches.
Since then the car struggled with massive understeer and now after almost 2 years they go "back" to almost same front as they had.

EDIT: 2017 front for comparison:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/image/349167/

Yes, but it's more complicated. When you increase rear aero you need to compensate in the front. Also they might have added additional exits and cooling to compensate. Looks the same from the front, but the exits of the air, cooling, underside aero and rear cooling are one big package and hence are most likely updated.

**EDIT** see post #9631 above to see all the updates

[Toyoda]

Interesting how Paddon was complaining about this for half of 2017 and all of 2018 and they only try new aero to fix it now, I remember he was trying to fix this with softening suspension settings and in the end managed to get a new rear diff out of them before Finland last year finally which lead to his best result, funny how a Loeb in the team gets things done.
This should back them more than competitive in Finland if it gives them the front grip they need and not to much extra tyre wear.

[MotorsportManiac]

Some Pictures of Toyotas Test in Trittenheim! ;)

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-02/IMG_9878.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-02/IMG_3435.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-02/IMG_9787.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-02/IMG_3511.jpg

More HERE (https://rally3.de/bilder/saison-2019/testdeutschland/album-02/) :)

Gruß Kevin

[AnttiL]

Breen today

https://twitter.com/se_rally/status/1147416969223823365

[EstWRC]

Breen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlM-3rUKUDU

[over jump]

Another Breen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu4_9pv9M_M

[satukata]

I visited Breens test today. Here is my video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUK-UU4AeYM

Nice sliding and safe jumps (after morning too big jump). Breen was very happy whole day despite they have to change new engine and it took 2 hours

[satukata]

Ott Tanak test today 16.7. Maximum Attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHaFFBE3lgw

[satukata]

Teemu Suninen test today 16.7 Maximum Attack :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZL06iYWY_k

[jka]

Kalle Rovanperä, Škoda Motorsport. Neste Rally Finland 2019 pre-event test, and interview (with subtitles).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL26WC8dSVw

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://youtu.be/RK6_cfaeOjo

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen

https://youtu.be/SZL06iYWY_k

[lluisva555]

Deividas Jocius - Ford Fiesta WRC test at Greystoke (UK)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhib7t_SFo4

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://youtu.be/wuohOb2_kUk

[jiipee64]

Meeke on Wednesday

https://twitter.com/64peejii/status/1151411881321648130?s=19

[dimviii]

Μeeke small clip
https://twitter.com/LPaanala/status/1151405220565569536

[over jump]

Ogier test Finland today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JhIpTARGjQ

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_sPj4WXYAAvIpG.jpg

[dimviii]

amazing video with Meeke
https://youtu.be/qd6rUPmvmDg

[satukata]

Kris Meeke was sliding in Finland today, here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd6rUPmvmDg

[satukata]

Another rallytestvideo for today where Ogier drives in Ouninpohja! https://youtu.be/7debxmAxlVY

[lnvs]

Crazy how rear heavy that C3 still jumps.

[EstWRC]

Meeke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kalxljYc9U

[EstWRC]

Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zLJxl90LJ8

[MotorsportManiac]

Mr. Rovanperä today ;-)

https://scontent.fmuc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67062081_2492809750771909_4820003661839073280_n.jp g?_nc_cat=104&_nc_oc=AQnk5mirHIBGQsI4m0PCvco-M17vNjQ6hQH7mOyfT2xmujo6zWijSgy5IDW6uPqpV6g&_nc_ht=scontent.fmuc3-1.fna&oh=63afe2ddac4957d589f3cd833b599fd0&oe=5DEE7BEB

https://scontent.fmuc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67096038_2492810124105205_7807208194219966464_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&_nc_oc=AQnPIIIJ6JQEf2391K_ua_m9zOgY4gplwJom-UGi6ngS99SWeBl1j6-GDSc3SHTLVFI&_nc_ht=scontent.fmuc3-1.fna&oh=aaa0629d868c812294431f25bfd639cc&oe=5DBE5633

https://scontent.fmuc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67167552_2492810340771850_5003274924291260416_n.jp g?_nc_cat=106&_nc_oc=AQkX33XiGrGBw-TZvDxqrP7LA-OjqPTMnvzqiPKw6H45HWMH4FCmwaMySZmZSuxwpPY&_nc_ht=scontent.fmuc3-1.fna&oh=8ab6b9e6de1956f3b6bf7e521e32c64c&oe=5DABD1F4

https://scontent.fmuc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/66845355_2492810457438505_5292993558150643712_n.jp g?_nc_cat=105&_nc_oc=AQl2sZItOysMatcteXlAxvI7S6zdB3okN7HLn9S7xMG rx9wXoRZtSe_SLsEwL9MMDCY&_nc_ht=scontent.fmuc3-1.fna&oh=d68eddc6e291dcd4b1a09ec213ac8ee3&oe=5DAFFE54

More Here (https://www.facebook.com/pg/kevinlambertiphotography/photos/?tab=album&album_id=2492809000771984) on Facebook.

regards Kevin

[satukata]

My son video. JariMatti flying today 44m!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnAI9a4smJQ

Maximum Attack

[eib1]

Tänak test "roofboard"

https://www.facebook.com/otttanakfanpage/videos/988210471524555/

[wrc2017]

Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zLJxl90LJ8

that citroen does not looks nice......
the way the front just flops down, and almost 'dead cat' bounce of front.
also they are surely down 30/40% downforce compared with toyota... purely a visual analysis, based on surface area.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Greensmith on Thursday

http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Test_Days_Greensmith_Finlande_2019_3.jpg

http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Test_Days_Greensmith_Finlande_2019_1.jpg

http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Test_Days_Greensmith_Finlande_2019_2.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Huge jumps by Lappi today

https://twitter.com/se_rally/status/1152109104959279105

[EstWRC]

Bottas and Kankkunen tried the Toyota today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbzYLs-O9Zs

[over jump]

EP Lappi test Finland today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAh6eRJuLSI

[Allez Andruet]

Just what the absolute f*** was Valtteri Bottas doing today testing the Yaris WRC with outdated Williams gear?

[RS]

Just what the absolute f*** was Valtteri Bottas doing today testing the Yaris WRC with outdated Williams gear?

Really surprised Mercedes allow him to drive another car brand, especially during the season and especially something potentially dangerous like this..

[wrc2017]

Just what the absolute f*** was Valtteri Bottas doing today testing the Yaris WRC with outdated Williams gear? sure hell be out of a job next year anyway, so he doesnt give a fuck

[mmm]

Here he says he has something (rally related) planned for August: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9H1O3zyzpY

Could be Rally Germany?

[masa90]

Hmm now this is interesting. Let's see. I hope Bottas gets to drive Mercedes again next year but there are some strange signs out there.

[AnttiL]

Here he says he has something (rally related) planned for August: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9H1O3zyzpY

Could be Rally Germany?

Rally Finland is also in August. Show runs in Harju?

[mmm]

Rally Finland is also in August. Show runs in Harju?

Check F1 2019 calendar

[AnttiL]

Check F1 2019 calendar

Right. I couldn't really care less about F1. When do their weekend start?

[masa90]

At least it doesn't seem to be a secret when he posted it himself to Facebook etc. Strange, but let's see.

[mmm]

Right. I couldn't really care less about F1. When do their weekend start?

Haha I have no idea either, just looked at the calendar. Maybe he could squeeze in a quick flight to do Harju, but someone more aware of their obligations during the racing week should comment on this.

[masa90]

There is also Lahti Historic Rally during August. That does not clash with any F1 race or does it? It is really close to his hometown also.

[EstWRC]

Bottas and Kankkunen tried the Toyota today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbzYLs-O9Zs

the uploader took the video down and uploaded again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH-EKfatFU4

[EstWRC]

Toyota Gazoo Racing sporting director Kaj Lindstrom told Motorsport.com that Bottas’ outing in the Yaris was just for fun.

Lindstrom joked: “There is no contract. He was happy in the Arctic Rally, but we have the best car and he wanted to try it!”


https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/bottas-toyota-yaris-test/4498046/

[Allez Andruet]

Toyota Gazoo Racing sporting director Kaj Lindstrom told Motorsport.com that Bottas’ outing in the Yaris was just for fun.

I for one find it hard to believe these kind of things would happen "just for fun", as Lindström claims. Not even TGR with their massive budget is giving away five-figures (what it must cost) just for someone's entertainment - especially as it wasn't done publicly to maximize the exposure.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bottas has driven the Mk2 Fiesta R5 too.

Maybe he really enjoys rally more than F1 and looks to do more.

[pantealex]

Kankkunen was main reason for that test, TGR also wanted to show FIA "rally-boss" Timo Rautiainen some things, Bottas as a driver was just "Bonus"

[masa90]

The thing is that Bottas surely is too old for full time switch. At least for any kind of success.

[racerx1979]

Never too old... Meeke is not some young chicken either and he's had a few wins to his name.

[mknight]

Yeez, if anything he would drive 2-3 rallies "for fun" when there is no F1.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Paddon:
First runs in the M-Sport Fiesta today and really happy with the feeling I’ve been able to get with the car straight away. Feels like we were never away. Now the day ahead to get some mileage and fine tune. #paddonspack @MSportLtd https://t.co/KRAFlAh1rB

[satukata]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8FD_1EaEGk&feature=youtu.be

WRC2 today

[satukata]

Here is compilation of this year Rally Finland tests: https://youtu.be/K1AG-TsF5rY

[mknight]

Sordo is in Germany, first time we see the car with new aero on tarmac:
https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1159023003285491713

[mknight]

Sordo vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1DSE5Gb4Kk

EDIT: One more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fucPmH-RaH0

EDIT2: and 3rd:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDIL3beQ3n4

Same spots all of them..

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBce_dxXYAM6Q6n?format=jpg&name=medium

[mknight]

You mean that the door is "thicker"? That has been like that already since the pre-finland tests (and on rally Estonia test car as well as in Finland ) afaik and possibly much longer before that.
Check out for example the right side of the car on this picture from Monte this year:
https://www.wrcwings.tech/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Andreas-MC19-signed.jpg


It's just that it's much easier to see it on the white testcar than with the racecar livery.

[logic]

Sordo is in Germany, first time we see the car with new aero on tarmac:
https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1159023003285491713

The new aero is the the same that was released in finland.

[mknight]

The new aero is the the same that was released in finland.
What I am saying is that this is the first time it is seen on the car when driving on tarmac.

[mknight]

Mikkelsen long vid (there is one other but it's 1 min and relatively pointless)

https://youtu.be/DxkBRq5qK9A

EDIT: Also a good one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0dUP7K6mjg

[MotorsportManiac]

Some Pictures of todays test ;)

https://scontent.fham1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67961488_2530212743698276_6598537820837511168_o.jp g?_nc_cat=105&_nc_oc=AQnGge4Zv_km9GaeIchaD_ojSkjXY1NMUcyZyH-Q_dB5O5uKypNSGtnNVT02OGMTyfA&_nc_ht=scontent.fham1-1.fna&oh=2d20d71302dbb6819a01ef870e7926be&oe=5DDDD3B3

https://scontent.fham1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/68446327_2530213497031534_3281169518801453056_o.jp g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_oc=AQmF7-X7s5rMhFJxNzu-rP5fw_M8Ih01ekrv6lh7Xp0B7VXk3oZaum6y9OWA4MYAAAY&_nc_ht=scontent.fham1-1.fna&oh=146785c47178121f089495c1ac595eb3&oe=5DCCE9B6

https://scontent.fham1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/68826847_2530212927031591_3055977404150317056_o.jp g?_nc_cat=107&_nc_oc=AQm6Kq0mb6X6iT7b1ODOhM1yGN59M_zNOmov-V9t3Rd1NpEAJekkjgyu7Oli0ujbzX4&_nc_ht=scontent.fham1-1.fna&oh=afb6adc63e5c71cde2e4ec2ccad9cebb&oe=5DE79ABF

https://scontent.fham1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67942578_2530212730364944_7122538189025181696_o.jp g?_nc_cat=100&_nc_oc=AQkvrXUMJmxS-UNqf9cD5IWLnAnhligklhafvTeP6KkxQgvu80Qs6U88mQgLJuI T1VY&_nc_ht=scontent.fham1-1.fna&oh=635c4ec1e9c7fcd118a556e02ad34424&oe=5DCCCA02

regards Kevin

[mknight]

For 3rd rally in a row Neuville has rain on part of the test day:

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1159825751534985222

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1159762408136683521

Will he come to the rally again and spend a day finding dry setup?

[MotorsportManiac]

Some Pictures of todays test ;)

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-05/IMG_0752.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-05/IMG_0809.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-05/IMG_0847.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-05/IMG_0945.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-05/IMG_3894.jpg

You can find more HERE (https://rally3.de/bilder/saison-2019/testdeutschland/) or HERE! (https://www.facebook.com/kevinlambertiphotography/) ;)

regards Kevin

[EstWRC]

Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrJg5QtU-zc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VWbJ-CQR7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rZTJY64tfM&feature=youtu.be

[EstWRC]

Toyota testing in Greece for Turkey https://twitter.com/antonisdousis/status/1160449069183131649

dimviii you there ?

[mknight]

I'd guess they had this planned for some time beforehand (at least 2 months). I don't think they could manage to change the rear wing already so if they have to do it afterwards before the rally this testing might have limited value. (though I guess dampers are the main focus right now)

[EstWRC]

cant you see from the vid the wing is from both sides 3cm smaller now? ;)

[dimviii]

Toyota testing in Greece for Turkey https://twitter.com/antonisdousis/status/1160449069183131649

dimviii you there ?
I am on vacations at Corfu island mate.

[EstWRC]

Latvala in Greece for Turkey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrCt1__A1p8&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFsNejzfKBQ&feature=youtu.be

[EstWRC]

Citroen testin for Germany again https://twitter.com/hervetusoli/status/1160810948849995777

this is the second time in a month, it seems they are taking things seriously after a failed Corsica

[EstWRC]

Ogier https://t.co/W4K9iqjyeF?amp=1

[EstWRC]

Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_i2J7RYRv4

[Vaggelis27]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mScsCBEc6tY My video from the 2 days.Day 1 Latvala-Hanninen day 2 Meeke Marshall.Next two days Tanak

[MotorsportManiac]

Some Pictures of yesterdays test ;)

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-06/IMG_3993.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-06/IMG_3999%20(2).jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-06/IMG_4023 (2).jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-06/IMG_4058.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-06/IMG_4062.jpg

You can find more HERE (https://rally3.de/bilder/saison-2019/testdeutschland/album-06/) or HERE! (https://www.facebook.com/kevinlambertiphotography/) ;)

regards Kevin

[Andre Oliveira]

Wth? Bottas

https://youtu.be/yoDS_LSodpE

[EstWRC]

Meeke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzprfJFXZhs&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3KOE6Qms_tBGKaNbaSZO2vYMVMBfJ67nf_gaQFs KBvdjc8kH1MUpMrihE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqm4Dcc3K58&t=9s

[the sniper]

Wth? Bottas

https://youtu.be/yoDS_LSodpE

Gee whiz! Even Kubica would be taking the keys off him after seeing this! :D

Did he think it was a Mk2 Escort?

[mknight]

Wth? Bottas

https://youtu.be/yoDS_LSodpE

Pretty weird with so much oversteer all the time. Maybe he asked for center-dif setup with massive rear-bias "for fun"?

[EstWRC]

Toyota rearwing picture from Turkey test

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBzVFYzXkAELmqq?format=jpg&name=medium

credit https://twitter.com/ASelekos/status/1161037124440875008

[mknight]

I don't see any difference, though it is hard from this angle since just about all pictures are normally from side or rear.


EDIT: Btw. here is the most complete comparison of the current designs.
https://www.wrcwings.tech/2017/01/04/wrc-2017-rear-wing-comparative/

Anyway as I wrote before if changes need to be done to follow the new "rules explanation" it will take the teams much longer than a week since Finland to come with them.

[MotorsportManiac]

Some Pictures of todays test ;)

https://scontent.fmuc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/68685218_2539395146113369_6897809591539597312_o.jp g?_nc_cat=102&_nc_eui2=AeEeINNYHx0EHrWqkMt327cCnQLQM0SFXh46nGeI5 eLCPaDFLW31OMCgwX7tQEJ4uZtqAiGwPl-VZVaQGIS1d4seP6YrkQOELoqbMbaHIG4QUQ&_nc_oc=AQkTvaOfh4vrhHQQ_wXfvwWufGBaYoMcn3m05sGBl8z zj30n_-33I4pmgJCyAjz8dhM&_nc_ht=scontent.fmuc3-1.fna&oh=48dd877cfef5b4c215f29f595653fb02&oe=5DC8235D

https://scontent.fmuc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/68955671_2539395429446674_2576893288548139008_o.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_eui2=AeEmwsYtX2l9CzLAYePo7MrPfrNKsrcK-gjj4NmC2itGN0Xbdh1w-t0f1H0KTDhu-4l5Bolx_ordyXkD6QeAEwy6tElVUUJUTs1eWd3tXhQs_A&_nc_oc=AQnAL3PE_tXYcADTFYIGAorbNtcYNssbOnYXBy6-nMbEnzNz_4zZOst9mpgrVyX_SMQ&_nc_ht=scontent.fmuc3-1.fna&oh=77757a1f0c4eab26c3f55c1c1fe4a7b6&oe=5DD014E4

https://scontent.fmuc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/68378237_2539396106113273_3779471933721018368_o.jp g?_nc_cat=109&_nc_eui2=AeFTiLFm1DhWPQ-BGC-JX_WZ_qw2qaQXiVGokoz25hq23YW1miicaVSX5VAN49xbGhOgW N5qiXeldw_1DekIj701pLK6l2dFkqbvrQeNeTpaVQ&_nc_oc=AQnFrpn5NIIW9cJalphgF_c35KlYP-lHAaVrhOxfdGT-hQrhrg-q3whHiGOpTeos6D4&_nc_ht=scontent.fmuc3-1.fna&oh=fe2ab0cdf997afa81a4c75417bf2ed09&oe=5DD9C1D1

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https://scontent.fmuc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/68464273_2539395949446622_5594244690300895232_o.jp g?_nc_cat=105&_nc_eui2=AeH-NgG_ck1DEHJyHbkl9j8ocJFP0LH56Qf3fiuI-AT9vC-OjjzOWtcONZdAjiUb6TbqAFLkkCuqu5qMBUdDxIGa427lx8lTG UvVjcL_riQv0g&_nc_oc=AQmsXiJIJUwLOzrJq3POAVRe9rn_CIbV93Lh7Jf9X7x flBebc8XcW6k28_ewDvSJLCg&_nc_ht=scontent.fmuc3-1.fna&oh=f811228169f34bc3a88f8c1ab343313f&oe=5DDAD87C

You can find more HERE (https://rally3.de/bilder/saison-2019/testdeutschland/) or HERE! (https://www.facebook.com/kevinlambertiphotography/) ;)

regards Kevin

[er88]

Wth? Bottas

https://youtu.be/yoDS_LSodpEWtf have I just watched lol

[lluisva555]

[QUOTE=mknight;1226125]I don't see any difference, though it is hard from this angle since just about all pictures are normally from side or rear.

Right. If the problem was overhangs, this (nice) picture doesn't help.

If the problem was the shape of the rear bumper...this wing' shape seems to remain the same

[EstWRC]

Wtf have I just watched lol

i had the same reaction

someone said on twitter that Kubica is having a laugh watching this

[KiwiWRCfan]

With Toyota testing for Rally Turkey a.k.a. the "New Acropolis" in Greece this week it has got me wondering which WRC teams, if any, have tested in Greece since 2013 when Acropolis was last a WRC event ?

[EstWRC]

M-sport tested with Ogier there last year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtqj6WA6NZA

[KiwiWRCfan]

Thanks EstWRC

[EstWRC]

also Polo R5 test there last year if that counts for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7bqjhRYG14

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnMfGBpMIyc&feature=youtu.be


engine problems according to the uploader

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wth? Bottas

https://youtu.be/yoDS_LSodpE

Bottas could come to WRC if he loses his F1 seat ?

I see Kone Cranes is one of his sponsors and they back Suninen too.

[MotorsportManiac]

Gus today :)

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-09/IMG_4835.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-09/IMG_4970.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-09/IMG_5003.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-09/IMG_5034.jpg

More HERE! (https://rally3.de/bilder/saison-2019/testdeutschland/album-09/) ;)

regards Kevin

[EstWRC]

Greensmith https://youtu.be/NQ9vT8EYgDw

[EstWRC]

nice quality vid of all Toyota drivers in Greece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzydxcUJXB0&t=

[Rally Power]

https://youtu.be/yoDS_LSodpE

After seeing Bottas trying out the test car before the team drivers, it becames even more strange to understand why Paddon was forced to use his rally car on Finland PET...

[Tarmop]

Because the test car was not there anymore?

[Rally Power]

I got the idea the rental deal was done before the team drivers PET.

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmP8Xl0RPmI

[RS]

i had the same reaction

someone said on twitter that Kubica is having a laugh watching this

Kubica and Kimi both did quite a lot of miles in lower class cars before stepping up to a World Rally Car, which maybe as this video shows would be a wise choice.

[Tarmop]

It`s just testing...who would choose R5 over WRC in this case?

[Devillersvideo]

With wet or dry condition... it's the same for WRC's drivers
Top test of Suninen today in Germany. The Fiesta have a engine problem before the end :/

http://youtu.be/h_pErG5X14o

[Andre Oliveira]

wOw

[mknight]

I haven't seen a single vid from Panzerplatte/Baumholder this year and at least I think Hyundai said they were going to test there, very likely others too.

Did teams already test there and nobody could come in (unlike previous years?) or will they do it this weekend? (kinda late though)

[MartijnS]

Ford tomorrow I read.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Maximum attack test by Suninen and some in the wet. Car looks great - what a difference to that Bottas effort.

[AnttiL]

Are you guys again making assumptions of a car’s pace based on how it looks on testing videos?

[Franky]

Are you guys again making assumptions of a car’s pace based on how it looks on testing videos?

Of course! It's faster than the current Mercedes F1 model, why else couldn't Bottas tame the Fiesta beast.

[mknight]

Are you guys again making assumptions of a car’s pace based on how it looks on testing videos?

Yep, ever since C3 WRC we know it works great ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Are you guys again making assumptions of a car’s pace based on how it looks on testing videos?

Rich Millener:
This I would class under the definition of ON IT. Absolutely banzai. Cant wait for next week. #ford #fiesta #WRC

@OfficialWRC @MSportLtd
@TeemuSuninenRac @ADACRallye @FordPerformance

https://t.co/1eZITe9jgC

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yep, ever since C3 WRC we know it works great ;)

That was when the C3 was new and on gravel.

The Fiesta isnt new and has proven pace on tarmac.

[dimviii]

Yep, ever since C3 WRC we know it works great ;)

what do you mean?

[AnttiL]

Rich Millener:
This I would class under the definition of ON IT. Absolutely banzai. Cant wait for next week. #ford #fiesta #WRC

@OfficialWRC @MSportLtd
@TeemuSuninenRac @ADACRallye @FordPerformance

https://t.co/1eZITe9jgC

Again: media literacy. He's the team boss. Besides, we haven't seen another car drive those same corners for comparison. And finally, usually if it looks fast and spectacular, it's slower than neat and tidy.

[AnttiL]

what do you mean?

Before the 2017 season started everyone was convinced that Citroen C3 is the best car and Toyota Yaris is the worst.

[denkimi]

Before the 2017 season started everyone was convinced that Citroen C3 is the best car and Toyota Yaris is the worst.
And they were not completely wrong.
The citroen was perhaps the fastest car in some conditions, but it was unpredictable when things where not 100% right.
Meeke won as many rally's in 2017 with that c3 as ogier. Actually, meeke has won every rally where he didn't has issues or crashed out that year.
I believe someone with a smooth style like loeb in his prime or ogier would have easily taken the championship with the c3.

The toyota is hard to tell. They had no drivers who could show the real speed of the car. It was for sure not the dominant car it is today, but looking at latvala's results it can't have been a real slow car.

[Portimao]

And they were not completely wrong.
The citroen was perhaps the fastest car in some conditions, but it was unpredictable when things where not 100% right.
Meeke won as many rally's in 2017 with that c3 as ogier. Actually, meeke has won every rally where he didn't has issues or crashed out that year.
I believe someone with a smooth style like loeb in his prime or ogier would have easily taken the championship with the c3.

The toyota is hard to tell. They had no drivers who could show the real speed of the car. It was for sure not the dominant car it is today, but looking at latvala's results it can't have been a real slow car.

I remember Meeke saying that he won in Mexico 2017 only because others had issues with engine overheating

[dimviii]

Before the 2017 season started everyone was convinced that Citroen C3 is the best car and Toyota Yaris is the worst.

from videos we had seen till THIS time ,yes it was true.
Of course at future plenty changed.

[Rally Power]

Yep, ever since C3 WRC we know it works great ;)

Even on a stage sometimes it’s hard to tell how effective a car/driver can actually be; I remember watching all 4 cars testing here prior to 2017 gravel events and Meeke’s C3 looked mindblowing fast. Anyway, Suninen’s footage is simply great!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another Suninen with big jumps. (Dont watch AnttiL ... ).

https://youtu.be/_Nnk2A9UpIY

[Devillersvideo]

I haven't seen a single vid from Panzerplatte/Baumholder this year and at least I think Hyundai said they were going to test there, very likely others too.

Did teams already test there and nobody could come in (unlike previous years?) or will they do it this weekend? (kinda late though)

The Panzerplatte test base has been completely banned since last year for spectators :mad:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

More on Bottas: https://www.rallyssimo.it/2019/08/16/wrc-bottas-rally-e-amore-testa-la-fiesta-gira-con-lappi-sulla-c3-e-sulla-yaris-dice/

"The same Finnish driver is enthusiastic about these experiences on rally cars, as he himself states:

"It's really fun. When I tested the Yaris it was great, driving such a powerful car on the tarmac is incredible, especially for me coming from the track. At the end of that day, I was in line with the times of Kris Meeke, who had tested a few hours before me.

A day of testing in rallies is more fun and less stressful than a Formula 1 weekend. There is no pressure that grips you, neither internal nor external."

Soon we will know the future of Valterri, which is still in the balance, given that we play the Mercedes seat with Ocon. In case of goodbye to the silver arrow, the doors of the Rally could open…. "

[deephouse]

In case of goodbye to the silver arrow, the doors of the Rally could open…. "

There is guys waiting for opportunity and not just slow ones and why the hell suddenly some blokes from formula have advantage over them. Not accepting this and I never will.

[T16]

There is guys waiting for opportunity and not just slow ones and why the hell suddenly some blokes from formula have advantage over them. Not accepting this and I never will.

He has same right to enter rally as anyone else. If he or his sponsors can fund it, it’s most certainly not for the average rally fan to dispute.
Bring it on, I say.

[mknight]

The Panzerplatte test base has been completely banned since last year for spectators :mad:

Ok that explains it. Was the most likely explanation anyway.

[AnttiL]

Even on a stage sometimes it’s hard to tell how effective a car/driver can actually be; I remember watching all 4 cars testing here prior to 2017 gravel events and Meeke’s C3 looked mindblowing fast.

This. I also remember Rally Finland shakedown 2018 and seeing Rovanperä and thinking "wow he's careful on the first pass" and it was the fastest time.

It's a different thing to watch a testing video and say "wow that looks great/spectacular/enjoyable" or "wow that car will be faster than the others"

[AnttiL]

He has same right to enter rally as anyone else. If he or his sponsors can fund it, it’s most certainly not for the average rally fan to dispute.
Bring it on, I say.

The only downside could be that a certain sponsor would find it more interesting to put their money on a famous F1 driver rather than an upcoming talent.