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EstWRC
19th March 2019, 09:46
finally a decent vid of Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOYCWbtf0MA

Fast Eddie WRC
19th March 2019, 18:52
Suninen
Arrived tonight on Corsica island. We do a two-day PET with @ElfynEvans and @MSportLtd, so that we are ready next week when it’s time to attack the stages of @TourdeCorseWRC for real! #WRC https://t.co/e3EnKbDG09

dimviii
19th March 2019, 19:23
Loeb
https://youtu.be/9kbdtEpzCH4

EstWRC
20th March 2019, 21:49
Suninen https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=zh_F_oCERwQ

Fast Eddie WRC
20th March 2019, 22:30
Suninen https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=zh_F_oCERwQ

Looking pretty rapid ! :cool:

EstWRC
21st March 2019, 12:25
Evans https://youtu.be/zeQ4X1cH7j4

dimviii
22nd March 2019, 15:56
Latvala
https://youtu.be/oZTM709Lnas

dimviii
2nd April 2019, 13:14
Sordo for Argentina test
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/1113034163765104640


Lappi at Arganil
https://twitter.com/PauloAr23028946/status/1112998180419985408

dimviii
2nd April 2019, 16:04
Sordo
https://youtu.be/monvAjSG6qc

dimviii
2nd April 2019, 19:40
Sordo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPPDM3Iwikc&feature=youtu.be

dimviii
2nd April 2019, 19:57
Lappi
https://twitter.com/TM_Figueiredo/status/1113139216983232513

dimviii
2nd April 2019, 20:34
Sordo
https://youtu.be/2ot19g_orik

dimviii
2nd April 2019, 21:29
Sordo d10m video
https://youtu.be/LFNzoryrK6M

dimviii
3rd April 2019, 19:54
Loeb
https://youtu.be/hIQUPQU1g1o

https://youtu.be/DisTjPlYelQ

https://youtu.be/bFzaVvdOO4s

dimviii
3rd April 2019, 22:07
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3QUepOWkAAhexo.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3QUepRWkAAFeYj.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3QJu-VWAAse8B4.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3QK4z5WkAMYvr5.jpg

dimviii
4th April 2019, 06:37
d10m video for Loeb
https://youtu.be/56kPzW5BNDM

dimviii
4th April 2019, 16:53
small clip with Neuville
https://twitter.com/thierryneuville/status/1113732838615076864

Fast Eddie WRC
4th April 2019, 16:53
Ogier test for Argentina looks pretty realistic:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3T1iA9XkAcreGJ.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3T1isHWwAAAooo.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3T1jJgWkAAQAfM.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3T1jqlWsAIZyvg.jpg

dimviii
4th April 2019, 18:04
Neuville

https://youtu.be/UUoZipvHQYc

EstWRC
4th April 2019, 20:11
Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f-YC4OTFTk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRoWUI7j2LU

EstWRC
4th April 2019, 21:31
Ogier by D10M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVfMQ6_RRR0

lluisva555
7th April 2019, 21:18
Tänak Argentina PET https://twitter.com/TGR_WRC/status/1114825244269842432

dimviii
8th April 2019, 16:57
Latvala testing at Portugal
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3opxpSXsAITM4E.jpg

mknight
8th April 2019, 18:18
Well, if they again run this kind of setup it won’t be much of a surprise if radiator or front suspension brakes.

dimviii
8th April 2019, 18:37
Well, if they again run this kind of setup it won’t be much of a surprise if radiator or front suspension brakes.

thats why i posted this photo,even the corner has a camber,maybe he is on brakes,imho still looks very low.

mknight
8th April 2019, 20:48
thats why i posted this photo,even the corner has a camber,maybe he is on brakes,imho still looks very low.

Yes, it's not like the other cars never drive corners with cambers or are on brakes, yet all 3 barely ever seem to scratch anything at the front while Toyota pictures like this are common.

Fast Eddie WRC
9th April 2019, 16:04
Gus Greensmith also appears to be testing with M-Sport in Portugal (where he will drive a WRCar later in the year).

racerx1979
9th April 2019, 16:24
Who is Gus Greensmith? Is that the guy with a rich dad? Lol

N.O.T
9th April 2019, 17:56
Who is Gus Greensmith? Is that the guy with a rich dad? Lol

that description fits 90% of all WRC drivers good and bad alike.

pedro16
9th April 2019, 18:15
Gus Greensmith also appears to be testing with M-Sport in Portugal (where he will drive a WRCar later in the year).

Are you sure? Doesn't look much like Portugal. Maybe just an home test to get more used to the car. Seems a bit too early to be testing for Portugal since the conditions here are on the wet side and usually M-Sport tests for Portugal later. But with 2 weeks between Chile and Portugal i don't know really.

Fast Eddie WRC
9th April 2019, 19:29
Who is Gus Greensmith? Is that the guy with a rich dad? Lol

At least he has talent to go with it, shown by winning WRC2 outright in Monte Carlo...

pantealex
9th April 2019, 20:37
At least he has talent to go with it, shown by winning WRC2 outright in Monte Carlo...

Yoann Bonato did win WRC2 in Monte-Carlo...

pedro16
9th April 2019, 21:25
Yoann Bonato did win WRC2 in Monte-Carlo...

Greensmith was 52 seconds faster than Bonato and won the rc2. Bonato won the WRC2 because Greensmith was on WRC2Pro
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/52398-rallye-automobile-de-monte-carlo-2019/?ct=1018

the sniper
10th April 2019, 01:45
Are you sure? Doesn't look much like Portugal. Maybe just an home test to get more used to the car. Seems a bit too early to be testing for Portugal since the conditions here are on the wet side and usually M-Sport tests for Portugal later. But with 2 weeks between Chile and Portugal i don't know really.

I've only seen pictures taken by David Evans, seemingly from Monday, of Elfyn's test. That looked to me to be Greystoke forest, M-Sport's local facility.

Fast Eddie WRC
10th April 2019, 12:34
Suninen
Let’s prepare for the South American trip as good as we can. This time we are in the famous Greystoke forest. Very familiar place for @MSportLtd. #WRC https://t.co/vHL4lWmxeu

Rally Power
10th April 2019, 19:11
Suninen
Let’s prepare for the South American trip as good as we can. This time we are in the famous Greystoke forest. Very familiar place for @MSportLtd. #WRC https://t.co/vHL4lWmxeu

Is MSport already in saving mode or is Greystoke not counting for tests days limit? After all other manus intensive testing in Portugal (using several locations in the North, Center and South of the country) for Argentina/Chile events, it’s a bit surpising to see MSport only using a local site.

lluisva555
11th April 2019, 18:24
Greystoke is so close to M-Sport facilities that it is very probably their nominated testing site.

Btw, we have done a compilation of 2019 aero modifications, jokers and tests days consumed up to present date by each team, together with planned modifications for the coming months, in our latest post, hope you enjoy it

https://www.wrcwings.tech/2019/04/10/2019-wrc-aero-development-after-the-first-4-events/

Fast Eddie WRC
14th April 2019, 14:11
Evans test onboard: https://youtu.be/G6xj__FgdKs

dimviii
14th April 2019, 16:07
https://youtu.be/ervixiVSvdY


Nikolay Gryazin
‏ @nikolay_gryazin

The second day of gravel tests is over. Tomorrow we need to rebuild, moving to a new place and have two more days of tests then.

Fast Eddie WRC
18th April 2019, 19:45
M-Sport confirms why their test was at home not in Portugal:

"Our designers and engineers never stop working and just last week we completed a two-day development test in Greystoke forest.

“We won’t see everything we tested on the cars just yet, but the session provided an opportunity to test and confirm various gravel set-ups..."

T16
19th April 2019, 08:46
Greystoke is so close to M-Sport facilities that it is very probably their nominated testing site.

Btw, we have done a compilation of 2019 aero modifications, jokers and tests days consumed up to present date by each team, together with planned modifications for the coming months, in our latest post, hope you enjoy it

https://www.wrcwings.tech/2019/04/10/2019-wrc-aero-development-after-the-first-4-events/


I think they own the forest.

AnttiL
19th April 2019, 21:10
Yes, Greystoke is M-Sport's "free" testing site. But also notice the Chile roads are quite similar to those in England so they're focusing on that whereas everyone else is focusing on Argentina.

Fast Eddie WRC
24th April 2019, 12:47
How Toyota test on gravel:
http://www.mobil1thegrid.com/video/gravel-trap-toyota-gazoo-racing-fine-tune-yaris-wrc-rally-competition/

Barreis
24th April 2019, 23:12
Lampi still Makinen's right hand

Fast Eddie WRC
25th April 2019, 11:42
Similar M-Sport test video here:
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/142923/video-behind-the-scenes-at-msport-gravel-test

dimviii
25th April 2019, 12:20
https://twitter.com/LPaanala/status/1121364749021798400

EstWRC
25th April 2019, 13:10
No rest if you want to be the best!

Rally Power
25th April 2019, 15:39
Similar M-Sport test video here:
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/142923/video-behind-the-scenes-at-msport-gravel-test

Strange to hear that Argentina stages can’t be replicated in Europe; Citroen and Hyundai spent a week in different locations at the North and Center of Portugal testing for it (and for Chile). They also gathered important data for Rally de Portugal; a sort of 3 in 1 that hardly can be done in Greystoke.

Toyota went to the South of Portugal (Algarve) and used some former RdP stages to prepare the South American events; they’ll come back in May for RdP PET. The tests footage (including Meeke onboard) on this preview video is from Algarve stages: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDphSZxrNKg


Btw, the images in the Mobil 1 video are from last February Toyota Mexico PET (in Almeria, Spain).

lluisva555
1st May 2019, 18:45
Videos of Skoda tests of the new Fabia R5 in Portugal

Kalle Rovanperä (by D10M)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=8hjdevUg4Do

Jan Kopecky (by MaisRally Racing Videos)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-kUuijC7es

Unfortunately, tests were interrupted after Kopecky accident today. Crew ok but car really damaged.

lluisva555
1st May 2019, 21:28
And here the video of the Kopecký accident, by AsportZ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=104&v=QCFhiFLK9Y0

Barreis
2nd May 2019, 19:25
it thought it was much worse how the front end looks like on the photos

dimviii
2nd May 2019, 19:41
it thought it was much worse how the front end looks like on the photos

me too.

lluisva555
15th May 2019, 18:35
Hyundai started today gravel tests in Sardegna with Dani Sordo, in preparation of the Italian event

https://twitter.com/rallyssimo/status/1128699007247822848

lluisva555
15th May 2019, 18:40
And more...

https://twitter.com/Bartolbia84/status/1128707589091545088

dimviii
15th May 2019, 21:28
Sordo today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6oa8QfWsAA2Bco.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6oa-ytXkAADMxM.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6obEKpX4AAcHBM.jpg

lluisva555
15th May 2019, 21:36
Kopecký testing the new Fabia R5 Evo in preparation of the Rally Český Krumlov 2019 where the car will make its debut next weekend - Excellent video by VFTVideo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2PeR4Yo7LM

Rally Power
16th May 2019, 13:43
MSport PET in the North of Portugal. Video by Pedro Figueiredo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY62QsJx2NM&feature=share

EstWRC
16th May 2019, 22:09
Suninen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5viJD_yRhWg
https://t.co/oUFFVf4STX

dimviii
18th May 2019, 18:03
nice small clips with Latvala at this chanell

https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/1129762752040452096

Fast Eddie WRC
19th May 2019, 12:52
Ha ha :D

@GreensmithGus

Sorry Teemu, I’m taking the credit here !

https://twitter.com/GreensmithGus/status/1130065485540864000

EstWRC
19th May 2019, 19:28
Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enDQuTdekMo
Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B0PzL1Rx7w

EstWRC
19th May 2019, 20:17
Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHTUEeo6mrs

EstWRC
20th May 2019, 05:09
Tänak http://youtu.be/uPnyeiNBDyA
Greensmith https://youtu.be/0ihRYbpb4Hw

Fast Eddie WRC
20th May 2019, 10:43
@GreensmithGus Portugal WRC Pre-Event Test:

https://t.co/EZ10IXcRLA

EstWRC
20th May 2019, 13:05
Another one of Tänak https://youtu.be/SFFejJlQrDI

dimviii
20th May 2019, 16:16
amazing video,even its a bit fast played.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6_8k12X4AA6Mcu.jpg

dimviii
20th May 2019, 17:19
Meeke
https://youtu.be/LcINYnntS84

dimviii
20th May 2019, 17:26
and a nice photo of Greensmith testing

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6_hzzrW0AAauWY.jpg

dimviii
20th May 2019, 17:37
https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/may-2019/neuville-test/page/6357--12-12-.html

mknight
20th May 2019, 18:38
Another one of Tänak https://youtu.be/SFFejJlQrDI

Check out 2:25 for the traditional front scraping and also check how the splitter is completely torn apart (plastic black part) across the whole width of the car.

I wonder how that is going to work in Portugal and Sardinia. Will they keep this risky setup or go for Turkey setup and loose some performance? Did they manage to find something that combines both? (doesn't look it was being used in this part of the vid)

Ds3
20th May 2019, 19:23
https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/may-2019/neuville-test/page/6357--12-12-.html

Someone expected something else to say ???

dimviii
20th May 2019, 21:19
Meeke from dm10 video
https://youtu.be/ZF4zpC5fOLE

EstWRC
23rd May 2019, 08:47
Meeke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmJH1iTcRVg

EstWRC
23rd May 2019, 19:13
Huttunen with the Hyundai i20 WRC on finnish roads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqWmrC2FF4I

racerx1979
23rd May 2019, 20:24
Huttunen with the Hyundai i20 WRC on finnish roads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqWmrC2FF4I

Huttunen in Finland? Maybe bring out 4 cars to Finland since Hyundai is weak at that rally... just thoughts..

Tarmop
23rd May 2019, 20:41
Probably that is their idea...

doubled1978
23rd May 2019, 21:08
Huttunen in Finland? Maybe bring out 4 cars to Finland since Hyundai is weak at that rally... just thoughts..

I doubt they will bring 4 cars, but I have a suspicion that Huttunen might do Finland and Wales.
Also aren’t the major updates to the Hyundai due in time for Finland?

AnttiL
23rd May 2019, 21:51
Huttunen’s manager Grönholm said they have rented the car, but who knows what’s happening behind the scenes

Allez Andruet
23rd May 2019, 22:27
Huttunen’s manager Grönholm said they have rented the car, but who knows what’s happening behind the scenes

Maybe Bosse's just trying to imitate Tommi and talk all kind of non-sense.

rp
24th May 2019, 08:50
Huttunen’s manager Grönholm said they have rented the car, but who knows what’s happening behind the scenes

There is no sense to rent Hyundai for Finland, because Toyota would be much better. i20 WRC is the weakest World Rally Car in these conditions. Marcus has a good connection with Tommi and drove Yaris in Sweden and it should have been possible much easier in their own backyard.

Also Tuohino´s Fiesta WRC would be available to rent. They have to get a lot of support from Hyundai and at least it must be much cheaper if that car makes sense.

TRW
24th May 2019, 10:05
Huttunen’s manager Grönholm said they have rented the car, but who knows what’s happening behind the scenes

Wait a second, are we reached a point, where testing days are limited and now teams "rent" their cars to have fun between finnish forests?

dimviii
24th May 2019, 16:00
Wait a second, are we reached a point, where testing days are limited and now teams "rent" their cars to have fun between finnish forests?

could be the case!

the sniper
16th June 2019, 16:59
Nice footage of Oliver Solberg's test in Wales: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw3wnn_NrKM

dimviii
20th June 2019, 06:55
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9eyjUJW4AADefS.jpg

EstWRC
20th June 2019, 08:46
new diffuser?

Eli
20th June 2019, 11:03
I saw on twitter that Eric Camilli will be testing the C3 WRC today? anyone can confirm?

Edit:
Just saw the News & Rumors Thread, nvr mind.

dimviii
20th June 2019, 12:26
small clip with Camilli
https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1141597583263092741

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1141608605923323904

https://twitter.com/hugo_blancher/status/1141652269508771840


https://youtu.be/2dmb3VZsGK8

dimviii
20th June 2019, 18:41
Camilli
https://youtu.be/iE17gO4Qh50

EstWRC
21st June 2019, 09:42
Milli Camilli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiqaDFloyZ0

lluisva555
22nd June 2019, 16:00
Video of Lappi's Germany pre-event test today by Hervé Tusoli for Planetemarcus

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1142401321464733696

lluisva555
22nd June 2019, 16:03
...and a nice article on rally tests by Italian website Rallyssimo.it

https://www.rallyssimo.it/2019/06/22/testato-rallysticamente-cosa-sono-e-come-funzionano-i-test-nei-rally/

GRID.Media
22nd June 2019, 23:02
Test Lappi in Germany Tarmac:

https://youtu.be/Sx-j0-SpCaM

dimviii
23rd June 2019, 00:48
Lappi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pllRDk6syQ

EstWRC
25th June 2019, 11:02
Short clip of Tänak testing in Finland today https://twitter.com/lpaanala/status/1143451854514339840?s=21

EstWRC
25th June 2019, 16:33
Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68_bVjLvitM

EstWRC
25th June 2019, 19:12
Great vid Of Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOqj2X05q3k&t=


speeeeeeeddd

EstWRC
25th June 2019, 20:42
one more https://twitter.com/simmi781/status/1143590860145270785



Miika Wuorela


@MiikaWuorela
7m7 minutes ago
More
Big thanks to @OttTanak and @TGR_WRC for this experience. ”I did not push at all as I did not want to break your back”. Thanks for that too �� - even if I would have wanted to see this ruthless predator in full attack mode.

https://twitter.com/MiikaWuorela/status/1143596936718626817

EstWRC
26th June 2019, 17:30
Latvala https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjrKPambL4w

MotorsportManiac
27th June 2019, 15:23
Some of my Pictures of Citroens first PET for Rally Germany are online! ;)

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-01/testcitroenensch_031.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-01/testcitroenensch_052.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-01/testcitroenensch_064.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-01/testcitroenensch_054.jpg

More HERE (https://rally3.de/bilder/saison-2019/testdeutschland/album-01/) :)

Gruß Kevin

dimviii
27th June 2019, 22:47
nice photos mate!

wrc2017
27th June 2019, 23:14
Meeke testing
https://twitter.com/LPaanala/status/1144250336431026176?s=19

rp
28th June 2019, 10:39
Meeke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66d7X61qO_U

RS
28th June 2019, 17:19
Rovanpera: https://youtu.be/umgxui_xYNU

RS
29th June 2019, 20:03
Better one with Rovanpera: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tSEL7_LTY

EstWRC
1st July 2019, 19:51
Meeke for Germany https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQiGx9bYkZo&t

dimviii
1st July 2019, 19:59
Μeeke
https://youtu.be/dx09JisxZzQ

Devillersvideo
1st July 2019, 21:59
Meeke today in Ensch

https://youtu.be/_pWcV6LG58g

1790

dimviii
1st July 2019, 22:50
Meeke today in Ensch

https://youtu.be/_pWcV6LG58g

1790

the way yaris is ''ironing'' the tarmac is from another planet.

wrc2017
2nd July 2019, 07:30
the way yaris is ''ironing'' the tarmac is from another planet.
Certainly an impressive video

dimviii
2nd July 2019, 18:38
Latvala
https://youtu.be/9Rl6_4Zkd1M

EstWRC
2nd July 2019, 20:13
Latvala https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MmpGSg5gtE

EstWRC
3rd July 2019, 20:38
Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc0ssoO8dzk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ak1GF8siPA
https://youtu.be/__SJzdL1YJs

EstWRC
3rd July 2019, 21:01
One more https://youtu.be/HIsYR59NURs

GRID.Media
3rd July 2019, 22:50
Tänak in Deutschland testing:

https://youtu.be/O4dnlR2-HoY

EstWRC
4th July 2019, 09:58
Tänak in Deutschland testing:

https://youtu.be/O4dnlR2-HoY

thanks! good video!

here is one more of Ott https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e98n43cae_I

mknight
4th July 2019, 13:04
Hyundai (Mikkelsen) testing in Finland:

https://twitter.com/VuorinenHenri/status/1146701845961814016

https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1146694683965513728

first pic with revised front for more aero grip.

Still the whole situation is funny.
Hyundai had a similar front already until Spain 2017... and you can say it was the best car until then. For 2017 spain they removed one of the fins on each side to lower the downforce and subsequently they improved rear downforce with bigger Toyota-style wheel arches.
Since then the car struggled with massive understeer and now after almost 2 years they go "back" to almost same front as they had.

EDIT: 2017 front for comparison:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/image/349167/

EstWRC
4th July 2019, 14:08
nice catch, i actually didnt notice it in the morning when i first saw the pic.

the fins now look exactly like Toyota ones.

mknight
4th July 2019, 14:41
the fins now look exactly like Toyota ones.

...and Citroen. All 3 look very much the same.

Fiesta is also very close just that the top fin is connected further and not the bottom one.

BigWorm
4th July 2019, 17:28
Also additions to the splitter at each end (which is all new)

But indeed quite funny they reverted to the old concept of 2 fins, but new angles and positions may provide differences.

dimviii
4th July 2019, 18:54
Tänak in Deutschland testing:

https://youtu.be/O4dnlR2-HoY

amazing video,thanks!

EstWRC
4th July 2019, 19:08
Our review of the front aero modifications Hyundai has been testing today in Finland, thanks to the excellent pictures from @VuorinenHenri @HMSGOfficial @RallyFinland @WRCLive #WRC

https://t.co/bsxLQYd1IN


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-pedRYWsAEPYzC.jpg:large


credit https://twitter.com/llluis555/status/1146832913645867008

EstWRC
4th July 2019, 19:10
Mikkelsen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZB506UKV64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7wGjUlMMwg

dimviii
5th July 2019, 17:05
Νeuville
https://youtu.be/Luv-JOQEddY

mknight
5th July 2019, 17:19
Νeuville
https://youtu.be/Luv-JOQEddY

Strange that he has old aero on the very start of the vid in wet while all the rest is new both in the dry and wet as far as I can see. Maybe someone spliced the vid with some older one?

EstWRC
5th July 2019, 19:17
doing back to back tests with old and new? to compare..

racerx1979
5th July 2019, 22:09
Hyundai (Mikkelsen) testing in Finland:

https://twitter.com/VuorinenHenri/status/1146701845961814016

https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1146694683965513728

first pic with revised front for more aero grip.

Still the whole situation is funny.
Hyundai had a similar front already until Spain 2017... and you can say it was the best car until then. For 2017 spain they removed one of the fins on each side to lower the downforce and subsequently they improved rear downforce with bigger Toyota-style wheel arches.
Since then the car struggled with massive understeer and now after almost 2 years they go "back" to almost same front as they had.

EDIT: 2017 front for comparison:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/image/349167/

Yes, but it's more complicated. When you increase rear aero you need to compensate in the front. Also they might have added additional exits and cooling to compensate. Looks the same from the front, but the exits of the air, cooling, underside aero and rear cooling are one big package and hence are most likely updated.

**EDIT** see post #9631 above to see all the updates

Toyoda
5th July 2019, 23:45
Interesting how Paddon was complaining about this for half of 2017 and all of 2018 and they only try new aero to fix it now, I remember he was trying to fix this with softening suspension settings and in the end managed to get a new rear diff out of them before Finland last year finally which lead to his best result, funny how a Loeb in the team gets things done.
This should back them more than competitive in Finland if it gives them the front grip they need and not to much extra tyre wear.

MotorsportManiac
6th July 2019, 07:52
Some Pictures of Toyotas Test in Trittenheim! ;)

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-02/IMG_9878.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-02/IMG_3435.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-02/IMG_9787.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-02/IMG_3511.jpg

More HERE (https://rally3.de/bilder/saison-2019/testdeutschland/album-02/) :)

Gruß Kevin

AnttiL
6th July 2019, 09:36
Breen today

https://twitter.com/se_rally/status/1147416969223823365

EstWRC
6th July 2019, 15:44
Breen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlM-3rUKUDU

over jump
6th July 2019, 18:19
Another Breen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu4_9pv9M_M

satukata
6th July 2019, 22:40
I visited Breens test today. Here is my video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUK-UU4AeYM

Nice sliding and safe jumps (after morning too big jump). Breen was very happy whole day despite they have to change new engine and it took 2 hours

satukata
16th July 2019, 20:25
Ott Tanak test today 16.7. Maximum Attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHaFFBE3lgw

satukata
16th July 2019, 20:45
Teemu Suninen test today 16.7 Maximum Attack :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZL06iYWY_k

jka
16th July 2019, 21:35
Kalle Rovanperä, Škoda Motorsport. Neste Rally Finland 2019 pre-event test, and interview (with subtitles).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL26WC8dSVw

EstWRC
16th July 2019, 21:52
Tänak https://youtu.be/RK6_cfaeOjo

Fast Eddie WRC
16th July 2019, 22:14
Suninen

https://youtu.be/SZL06iYWY_k

lluisva555
16th July 2019, 23:07
Deividas Jocius - Ford Fiesta WRC test at Greystoke (UK)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhib7t_SFo4

EstWRC
17th July 2019, 05:52
Tänak https://youtu.be/wuohOb2_kUk

jiipee64
17th July 2019, 10:17
Meeke on Wednesday

https://twitter.com/64peejii/status/1151411881321648130?s=19

dimviii
17th July 2019, 17:11
Μeeke small clip
https://twitter.com/LPaanala/status/1151405220565569536

over jump
17th July 2019, 18:35
Ogier test Finland today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JhIpTARGjQ

dimviii
17th July 2019, 18:45
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_sPj4WXYAAvIpG.jpg

dimviii
17th July 2019, 20:53
amazing video with Meeke
https://youtu.be/qd6rUPmvmDg

satukata
17th July 2019, 21:11
Kris Meeke was sliding in Finland today, here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd6rUPmvmDg

satukata
17th July 2019, 21:39
Another rallytestvideo for today where Ogier drives in Ouninpohja! https://youtu.be/7debxmAxlVY

lnvs
17th July 2019, 22:07
Crazy how rear heavy that C3 still jumps.

EstWRC
18th July 2019, 06:44
Meeke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kalxljYc9U

EstWRC
18th July 2019, 06:46
Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zLJxl90LJ8

MotorsportManiac
18th July 2019, 18:49
Mr. Rovanperä today ;-)

https://scontent.fmuc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67062081_2492809750771909_4820003661839073280_n.jp g?_nc_cat=104&_nc_oc=AQnk5mirHIBGQsI4m0PCvco-M17vNjQ6hQH7mOyfT2xmujo6zWijSgy5IDW6uPqpV6g&_nc_ht=scontent.fmuc3-1.fna&oh=63afe2ddac4957d589f3cd833b599fd0&oe=5DEE7BEB

https://scontent.fmuc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67096038_2492810124105205_7807208194219966464_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&_nc_oc=AQnPIIIJ6JQEf2391K_ua_m9zOgY4gplwJom-UGi6ngS99SWeBl1j6-GDSc3SHTLVFI&_nc_ht=scontent.fmuc3-1.fna&oh=aaa0629d868c812294431f25bfd639cc&oe=5DBE5633

https://scontent.fmuc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67167552_2492810340771850_5003274924291260416_n.jp g?_nc_cat=106&_nc_oc=AQkX33XiGrGBw-TZvDxqrP7LA-OjqPTMnvzqiPKw6H45HWMH4FCmwaMySZmZSuxwpPY&_nc_ht=scontent.fmuc3-1.fna&oh=8ab6b9e6de1956f3b6bf7e521e32c64c&oe=5DABD1F4

https://scontent.fmuc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/66845355_2492810457438505_5292993558150643712_n.jp g?_nc_cat=105&_nc_oc=AQl2sZItOysMatcteXlAxvI7S6zdB3okN7HLn9S7xMG rx9wXoRZtSe_SLsEwL9MMDCY&_nc_ht=scontent.fmuc3-1.fna&oh=d68eddc6e291dcd4b1a09ec213ac8ee3&oe=5DAFFE54

More Here (https://www.facebook.com/pg/kevinlambertiphotography/photos/?tab=album&album_id=2492809000771984) on Facebook.

regards Kevin

satukata
18th July 2019, 19:46
My son video. JariMatti flying today 44m!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnAI9a4smJQ

Maximum Attack

eib1
18th July 2019, 19:48
Tänak test "roofboard"

https://www.facebook.com/otttanakfanpage/videos/988210471524555/

wrc2017
19th July 2019, 08:37
Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zLJxl90LJ8

that citroen does not looks nice......
the way the front just flops down, and almost 'dead cat' bounce of front.
also they are surely down 30/40% downforce compared with toyota... purely a visual analysis, based on surface area.

Fast Eddie WRC
19th July 2019, 11:42
Greensmith on Thursday

http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Test_Days_Greensmith_Finlande_2019_3.jpg

http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Test_Days_Greensmith_Finlande_2019_1.jpg

http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Test_Days_Greensmith_Finlande_2019_2.jpg

Fast Eddie WRC
19th July 2019, 11:44
Huge jumps by Lappi today

https://twitter.com/se_rally/status/1152109104959279105

EstWRC
19th July 2019, 16:55
Bottas and Kankkunen tried the Toyota today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbzYLs-O9Zs

over jump
19th July 2019, 19:38
EP Lappi test Finland today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAh6eRJuLSI

Allez Andruet
19th July 2019, 21:20
Just what the absolute f*** was Valtteri Bottas doing today testing the Yaris WRC with outdated Williams gear?

RS
19th July 2019, 21:54
Just what the absolute f*** was Valtteri Bottas doing today testing the Yaris WRC with outdated Williams gear?

Really surprised Mercedes allow him to drive another car brand, especially during the season and especially something potentially dangerous like this..

wrc2017
19th July 2019, 21:59
Just what the absolute f*** was Valtteri Bottas doing today testing the Yaris WRC with outdated Williams gear? sure hell be out of a job next year anyway, so he doesnt give a fuck

mmm
19th July 2019, 22:03
Here he says he has something (rally related) planned for August: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9H1O3zyzpY

Could be Rally Germany?

masa90
19th July 2019, 22:05
Hmm now this is interesting. Let's see. I hope Bottas gets to drive Mercedes again next year but there are some strange signs out there.

AnttiL
19th July 2019, 22:06
Here he says he has something (rally related) planned for August: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9H1O3zyzpY

Could be Rally Germany?

Rally Finland is also in August. Show runs in Harju?

mmm
19th July 2019, 22:07
Rally Finland is also in August. Show runs in Harju?

Check F1 2019 calendar

AnttiL
19th July 2019, 22:12
Check F1 2019 calendar

Right. I couldn't really care less about F1. When do their weekend start?

masa90
19th July 2019, 22:16
At least it doesn't seem to be a secret when he posted it himself to Facebook etc. Strange, but let's see.

mmm
19th July 2019, 22:38
Right. I couldn't really care less about F1. When do their weekend start?

Haha I have no idea either, just looked at the calendar. Maybe he could squeeze in a quick flight to do Harju, but someone more aware of their obligations during the racing week should comment on this.

masa90
19th July 2019, 23:15
There is also Lahti Historic Rally during August. That does not clash with any F1 race or does it? It is really close to his hometown also.

EstWRC
20th July 2019, 09:14
Bottas and Kankkunen tried the Toyota today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbzYLs-O9Zs

the uploader took the video down and uploaded again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH-EKfatFU4

EstWRC
20th July 2019, 10:43
Toyota Gazoo Racing sporting director Kaj Lindstrom told Motorsport.com that Bottas’ outing in the Yaris was just for fun.

Lindstrom joked: “There is no contract. He was happy in the Arctic Rally, but we have the best car and he wanted to try it!”


https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/bottas-toyota-yaris-test/4498046/

Allez Andruet
20th July 2019, 19:02
Toyota Gazoo Racing sporting director Kaj Lindstrom told Motorsport.com that Bottas’ outing in the Yaris was just for fun.

I for one find it hard to believe these kind of things would happen "just for fun", as Lindström claims. Not even TGR with their massive budget is giving away five-figures (what it must cost) just for someone's entertainment - especially as it wasn't done publicly to maximize the exposure.

Fast Eddie WRC
21st July 2019, 17:18
Bottas has driven the Mk2 Fiesta R5 too.

Maybe he really enjoys rally more than F1 and looks to do more.

pantealex
21st July 2019, 20:05
Kankkunen was main reason for that test, TGR also wanted to show FIA "rally-boss" Timo Rautiainen some things, Bottas as a driver was just "Bonus"

masa90
22nd July 2019, 07:47
The thing is that Bottas surely is too old for full time switch. At least for any kind of success.

racerx1979
22nd July 2019, 12:57
Never too old... Meeke is not some young chicken either and he's had a few wins to his name.

mknight
22nd July 2019, 16:59
Yeez, if anything he would drive 2-3 rallies "for fun" when there is no F1.

Fast Eddie WRC
29th July 2019, 11:46
Paddon:
First runs in the M-Sport Fiesta today and really happy with the feeling I’ve been able to get with the car straight away. Feels like we were never away. Now the day ahead to get some mileage and fine tune. #paddonspack @MSportLtd https://t.co/KRAFlAh1rB

satukata
29th July 2019, 21:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8FD_1EaEGk&feature=youtu.be

WRC2 today

satukata
1st August 2019, 16:18
Here is compilation of this year Rally Finland tests: https://youtu.be/K1AG-TsF5rY

mknight
7th August 2019, 11:12
Sordo is in Germany, first time we see the car with new aero on tarmac:
https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1159023003285491713

mknight
7th August 2019, 19:53
Sordo vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1DSE5Gb4Kk

EDIT: One more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fucPmH-RaH0

EDIT2: and 3rd:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDIL3beQ3n4

Same spots all of them..

Andre Oliveira
8th August 2019, 13:06
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBce_dxXYAM6Q6n?format=jpg&name=medium

mknight
8th August 2019, 14:02
You mean that the door is "thicker"? That has been like that already since the pre-finland tests (and on rally Estonia test car as well as in Finland ) afaik and possibly much longer before that.
Check out for example the right side of the car on this picture from Monte this year:
https://www.wrcwings.tech/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Andreas-MC19-signed.jpg


It's just that it's much easier to see it on the white testcar than with the racecar livery.

logic
8th August 2019, 17:30
Sordo is in Germany, first time we see the car with new aero on tarmac:
https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1159023003285491713

The new aero is the the same that was released in finland.

mknight
8th August 2019, 17:47
The new aero is the the same that was released in finland.
What I am saying is that this is the first time it is seen on the car when driving on tarmac.

mknight
8th August 2019, 20:31
Mikkelsen long vid (there is one other but it's 1 min and relatively pointless)

https://youtu.be/DxkBRq5qK9A

EDIT: Also a good one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0dUP7K6mjg

MotorsportManiac
8th August 2019, 20:43
Some Pictures of todays test ;)

https://scontent.fham1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67961488_2530212743698276_6598537820837511168_o.jp g?_nc_cat=105&_nc_oc=AQnGge4Zv_km9GaeIchaD_ojSkjXY1NMUcyZyH-Q_dB5O5uKypNSGtnNVT02OGMTyfA&_nc_ht=scontent.fham1-1.fna&oh=2d20d71302dbb6819a01ef870e7926be&oe=5DDDD3B3

https://scontent.fham1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/68446327_2530213497031534_3281169518801453056_o.jp g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_oc=AQmF7-X7s5rMhFJxNzu-rP5fw_M8Ih01ekrv6lh7Xp0B7VXk3oZaum6y9OWA4MYAAAY&_nc_ht=scontent.fham1-1.fna&oh=146785c47178121f089495c1ac595eb3&oe=5DCCE9B6

https://scontent.fham1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/68826847_2530212927031591_3055977404150317056_o.jp g?_nc_cat=107&_nc_oc=AQm6Kq0mb6X6iT7b1ODOhM1yGN59M_zNOmov-V9t3Rd1NpEAJekkjgyu7Oli0ujbzX4&_nc_ht=scontent.fham1-1.fna&oh=afb6adc63e5c71cde2e4ec2ccad9cebb&oe=5DE79ABF

https://scontent.fham1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67942578_2530212730364944_7122538189025181696_o.jp g?_nc_cat=100&_nc_oc=AQkvrXUMJmxS-UNqf9cD5IWLnAnhligklhafvTeP6KkxQgvu80Qs6U88mQgLJuI T1VY&_nc_ht=scontent.fham1-1.fna&oh=635c4ec1e9c7fcd118a556e02ad34424&oe=5DCCCA02

regards Kevin

mknight
9th August 2019, 15:42
For 3rd rally in a row Neuville has rain on part of the test day:

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1159825751534985222

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1159762408136683521

Will he come to the rally again and spend a day finding dry setup?

MotorsportManiac
9th August 2019, 21:44
Some Pictures of todays test ;)

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-05/IMG_0752.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-05/IMG_0809.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-05/IMG_0847.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-05/IMG_0945.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-05/IMG_3894.jpg

You can find more HERE (https://rally3.de/bilder/saison-2019/testdeutschland/) or HERE! (https://www.facebook.com/kevinlambertiphotography/) ;)

regards Kevin

EstWRC
10th August 2019, 09:53
Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrJg5QtU-zc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VWbJ-CQR7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rZTJY64tfM&feature=youtu.be

EstWRC
11th August 2019, 10:56
Toyota testing in Greece for Turkey https://twitter.com/antonisdousis/status/1160449069183131649

dimviii you there ?

mknight
11th August 2019, 11:21
I'd guess they had this planned for some time beforehand (at least 2 months). I don't think they could manage to change the rear wing already so if they have to do it afterwards before the rally this testing might have limited value. (though I guess dampers are the main focus right now)

EstWRC
11th August 2019, 11:39
cant you see from the vid the wing is from both sides 3cm smaller now? ;)

dimviii
11th August 2019, 12:15
Toyota testing in Greece for Turkey https://twitter.com/antonisdousis/status/1160449069183131649

dimviii you there ?
I am on vacations at Corfu island mate.

EstWRC
11th August 2019, 21:08
Latvala in Greece for Turkey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrCt1__A1p8&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFsNejzfKBQ&feature=youtu.be

EstWRC
12th August 2019, 10:32
Citroen testin for Germany again https://twitter.com/hervetusoli/status/1160810948849995777

this is the second time in a month, it seems they are taking things seriously after a failed Corsica

EstWRC
12th August 2019, 19:52
Ogier https://t.co/W4K9iqjyeF?amp=1

EstWRC
12th August 2019, 21:27
Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_i2J7RYRv4

Vaggelis27
12th August 2019, 22:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mScsCBEc6tY My video from the 2 days.Day 1 Latvala-Hanninen day 2 Meeke Marshall.Next two days Tanak

MotorsportManiac
13th August 2019, 07:31
Some Pictures of yesterdays test ;)

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-06/IMG_3993.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-06/IMG_3999%20(2).jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-06/IMG_4023 (2).jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-06/IMG_4058.jpg

https://rally3.de/wp-content/r3gallery/2019/testdeutschland/album-06/IMG_4062.jpg

You can find more HERE (https://rally3.de/bilder/saison-2019/testdeutschland/album-06/) or HERE! (https://www.facebook.com/kevinlambertiphotography/) ;)

regards Kevin

Andre Oliveira
13th August 2019, 18:29
Wth? Bottas

https://youtu.be/yoDS_LSodpE

EstWRC
13th August 2019, 18:37
Meeke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzprfJFXZhs&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3KOE6Qms_tBGKaNbaSZO2vYMVMBfJ67nf_gaQFs KBvdjc8kH1MUpMrihE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqm4Dcc3K58&t=9s

the sniper
13th August 2019, 18:44
Wth? Bottas

https://youtu.be/yoDS_LSodpE

Gee whiz! Even Kubica would be taking the keys off him after seeing this! :D

Did he think it was a Mk2 Escort?

mknight
13th August 2019, 19:08
Wth? Bottas

https://youtu.be/yoDS_LSodpE

Pretty weird with so much oversteer all the time. Maybe he asked for center-dif setup with massive rear-bias "for fun"?

EstWRC
13th August 2019, 20:48
Toyota rearwing picture from Turkey test

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBzVFYzXkAELmqq?format=jpg&name=medium

credit https://twitter.com/ASelekos/status/1161037124440875008

mknight
13th August 2019, 21:12
I don't see any difference, though it is hard from this angle since just about all pictures are normally from side or rear.


EDIT: Btw. here is the most complete comparison of the current designs.
https://www.wrcwings.tech/2017/01/04/wrc-2017-rear-wing-comparative/

Anyway as I wrote before if changes need to be done to follow the new "rules explanation" it will take the teams much longer than a week since Finland to come with them.

MotorsportManiac
13th August 2019, 21:26
Some Pictures of todays test ;)

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er88
13th August 2019, 22:49
Wth? Bottas

https://youtu.be/yoDS_LSodpEWtf have I just watched lol

lluisva555
13th August 2019, 23:25
[QUOTE=mknight;1226125]I don't see any difference, though it is hard from this angle since just about all pictures are normally from side or rear.

Right. If the problem was overhangs, this (nice) picture doesn't help.

If the problem was the shape of the rear bumper...this wing' shape seems to remain the same

EstWRC
14th August 2019, 06:53
Wtf have I just watched lol

i had the same reaction

someone said on twitter that Kubica is having a laugh watching this

KiwiWRCfan
14th August 2019, 08:58
With Toyota testing for Rally Turkey a.k.a. the "New Acropolis" in Greece this week it has got me wondering which WRC teams, if any, have tested in Greece since 2013 when Acropolis was last a WRC event ?

EstWRC
14th August 2019, 09:09
M-sport tested with Ogier there last year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtqj6WA6NZA

KiwiWRCfan
14th August 2019, 09:28
Thanks EstWRC

EstWRC
14th August 2019, 09:33
also Polo R5 test there last year if that counts for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7bqjhRYG14

EstWRC
14th August 2019, 12:44
Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnMfGBpMIyc&feature=youtu.be


engine problems according to the uploader

Fast Eddie WRC
14th August 2019, 14:00
Wth? Bottas

https://youtu.be/yoDS_LSodpE

Bottas could come to WRC if he loses his F1 seat ?

I see Kone Cranes is one of his sponsors and they back Suninen too.

MotorsportManiac
14th August 2019, 17:00
Gus today :)

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EstWRC
14th August 2019, 19:54
Greensmith https://youtu.be/NQ9vT8EYgDw

EstWRC
14th August 2019, 20:29
nice quality vid of all Toyota drivers in Greece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzydxcUJXB0&t=

Rally Power
14th August 2019, 20:45
https://youtu.be/yoDS_LSodpE

After seeing Bottas trying out the test car before the team drivers, it becames even more strange to understand why Paddon was forced to use his rally car on Finland PET...

Tarmop
14th August 2019, 20:48
Because the test car was not there anymore?

Rally Power
14th August 2019, 20:57
I got the idea the rental deal was done before the team drivers PET.

EstWRC
15th August 2019, 14:18
Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmP8Xl0RPmI

RS
15th August 2019, 20:10
i had the same reaction

someone said on twitter that Kubica is having a laugh watching this

Kubica and Kimi both did quite a lot of miles in lower class cars before stepping up to a World Rally Car, which maybe as this video shows would be a wise choice.

Tarmop
15th August 2019, 20:19
It`s just testing...who would choose R5 over WRC in this case?

Devillersvideo
15th August 2019, 20:44
With wet or dry condition... it's the same for WRC's drivers
Top test of Suninen today in Germany. The Fiesta have a engine problem before the end :/

http://youtu.be/h_pErG5X14o

Andre Oliveira
16th August 2019, 00:33
wOw

mknight
16th August 2019, 08:22
I haven't seen a single vid from Panzerplatte/Baumholder this year and at least I think Hyundai said they were going to test there, very likely others too.

Did teams already test there and nobody could come in (unlike previous years?) or will they do it this weekend? (kinda late though)

MartijnS
16th August 2019, 08:26
Ford tomorrow I read.

Fast Eddie WRC
16th August 2019, 10:45
Maximum attack test by Suninen and some in the wet. Car looks great - what a difference to that Bottas effort.

AnttiL
16th August 2019, 13:01
Are you guys again making assumptions of a car’s pace based on how it looks on testing videos?

Franky
16th August 2019, 13:46
Are you guys again making assumptions of a car’s pace based on how it looks on testing videos?

Of course! It's faster than the current Mercedes F1 model, why else couldn't Bottas tame the Fiesta beast.

mknight
16th August 2019, 14:19
Are you guys again making assumptions of a car’s pace based on how it looks on testing videos?

Yep, ever since C3 WRC we know it works great ;)

Fast Eddie WRC
16th August 2019, 15:42
Are you guys again making assumptions of a car’s pace based on how it looks on testing videos?

Rich Millener:
This I would class under the definition of ON IT. Absolutely banzai. Cant wait for next week. #ford #fiesta #WRC

@OfficialWRC @MSportLtd
@TeemuSuninenRac @ADACRallye @FordPerformance

https://t.co/1eZITe9jgC

Fast Eddie WRC
16th August 2019, 15:57
Yep, ever since C3 WRC we know it works great ;)

That was when the C3 was new and on gravel.

The Fiesta isnt new and has proven pace on tarmac.

dimviii
16th August 2019, 17:02
Yep, ever since C3 WRC we know it works great ;)

what do you mean?

AnttiL
16th August 2019, 17:16
Rich Millener:
This I would class under the definition of ON IT. Absolutely banzai. Cant wait for next week. #ford #fiesta #WRC

@OfficialWRC @MSportLtd
@TeemuSuninenRac @ADACRallye @FordPerformance

https://t.co/1eZITe9jgC

Again: media literacy. He's the team boss. Besides, we haven't seen another car drive those same corners for comparison. And finally, usually if it looks fast and spectacular, it's slower than neat and tidy.

AnttiL
16th August 2019, 17:17
what do you mean?

Before the 2017 season started everyone was convinced that Citroen C3 is the best car and Toyota Yaris is the worst.

denkimi
16th August 2019, 17:55
Before the 2017 season started everyone was convinced that Citroen C3 is the best car and Toyota Yaris is the worst.
And they were not completely wrong.
The citroen was perhaps the fastest car in some conditions, but it was unpredictable when things where not 100% right.
Meeke won as many rally's in 2017 with that c3 as ogier. Actually, meeke has won every rally where he didn't has issues or crashed out that year.
I believe someone with a smooth style like loeb in his prime or ogier would have easily taken the championship with the c3.

The toyota is hard to tell. They had no drivers who could show the real speed of the car. It was for sure not the dominant car it is today, but looking at latvala's results it can't have been a real slow car.

Portimao
16th August 2019, 18:29
And they were not completely wrong.
The citroen was perhaps the fastest car in some conditions, but it was unpredictable when things where not 100% right.
Meeke won as many rally's in 2017 with that c3 as ogier. Actually, meeke has won every rally where he didn't has issues or crashed out that year.
I believe someone with a smooth style like loeb in his prime or ogier would have easily taken the championship with the c3.

The toyota is hard to tell. They had no drivers who could show the real speed of the car. It was for sure not the dominant car it is today, but looking at latvala's results it can't have been a real slow car.

I remember Meeke saying that he won in Mexico 2017 only because others had issues with engine overheating

dimviii
16th August 2019, 18:47
Before the 2017 season started everyone was convinced that Citroen C3 is the best car and Toyota Yaris is the worst.

from videos we had seen till THIS time ,yes it was true.
Of course at future plenty changed.

Rally Power
16th August 2019, 19:16
Yep, ever since C3 WRC we know it works great ;)

Even on a stage sometimes it’s hard to tell how effective a car/driver can actually be; I remember watching all 4 cars testing here prior to 2017 gravel events and Meeke’s C3 looked mindblowing fast. Anyway, Suninen’s footage is simply great!

Fast Eddie WRC
16th August 2019, 19:37
Another Suninen with big jumps. (Dont watch AnttiL ... ).

https://youtu.be/_Nnk2A9UpIY

Devillersvideo
16th August 2019, 19:53
I haven't seen a single vid from Panzerplatte/Baumholder this year and at least I think Hyundai said they were going to test there, very likely others too.

Did teams already test there and nobody could come in (unlike previous years?) or will they do it this weekend? (kinda late though)

The Panzerplatte test base has been completely banned since last year for spectators :mad:

Fast Eddie WRC
16th August 2019, 22:22
More on Bottas: https://www.rallyssimo.it/2019/08/16/wrc-bottas-rally-e-amore-testa-la-fiesta-gira-con-lappi-sulla-c3-e-sulla-yaris-dice/

"The same Finnish driver is enthusiastic about these experiences on rally cars, as he himself states:

"It's really fun. When I tested the Yaris it was great, driving such a powerful car on the tarmac is incredible, especially for me coming from the track. At the end of that day, I was in line with the times of Kris Meeke, who had tested a few hours before me.

A day of testing in rallies is more fun and less stressful than a Formula 1 weekend. There is no pressure that grips you, neither internal nor external."

Soon we will know the future of Valterri, which is still in the balance, given that we play the Mercedes seat with Ocon. In case of goodbye to the silver arrow, the doors of the Rally could open…. "

deephouse
16th August 2019, 22:39
In case of goodbye to the silver arrow, the doors of the Rally could open…. "

There is guys waiting for opportunity and not just slow ones and why the hell suddenly some blokes from formula have advantage over them. Not accepting this and I never will.

T16
16th August 2019, 22:45
There is guys waiting for opportunity and not just slow ones and why the hell suddenly some blokes from formula have advantage over them. Not accepting this and I never will.

He has same right to enter rally as anyone else. If he or his sponsors can fund it, it’s most certainly not for the average rally fan to dispute.
Bring it on, I say.

mknight
16th August 2019, 22:45
The Panzerplatte test base has been completely banned since last year for spectators :mad:

Ok that explains it. Was the most likely explanation anyway.

AnttiL
17th August 2019, 07:42
Even on a stage sometimes it’s hard to tell how effective a car/driver can actually be; I remember watching all 4 cars testing here prior to 2017 gravel events and Meeke’s C3 looked mindblowing fast.

This. I also remember Rally Finland shakedown 2018 and seeing Rovanperä and thinking "wow he's careful on the first pass" and it was the fastest time.

It's a different thing to watch a testing video and say "wow that looks great/spectacular/enjoyable" or "wow that car will be faster than the others"

AnttiL
17th August 2019, 07:44
He has same right to enter rally as anyone else. If he or his sponsors can fund it, it’s most certainly not for the average rally fan to dispute.
Bring it on, I say.

The only downside could be that a certain sponsor would find it more interesting to put their money on a famous F1 driver rather than an upcoming talent.