WRC Testing

[dimviii]

waiting for Tanaks video..

[dimviii]

Hanninen
https://youtu.be/4SIInnWd1-8

[JTGANG]

Hanninen
https://youtu.be/4SIInnWd1-8

Seems pretty fast....

[EstWRC]

waiting for Tanaks video..


yeah me too but it seems no one is interested after Ogier left....

[Andre Oliveira]

Ogier by stephwrc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVVsvdIH06w

[Andre Oliveira]

Hänninen by SudRallye: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEYefHhLMyc

[Andre Oliveira]

Tänak: https://www.facebook.com/julienpixelrallye/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15978102_740907896072355_3528798074818467677_n.jpg ?oh=3ace505aced2d419e9fa053f21a7f9c3&oe=5911F2CA
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15895324_740907376072407_4072084709104287942_n.jpg ?oh=ef6e42e288871c6a86a42e23b04006a5&oe=5923ADE7
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15966015_740905366072608_1176316942144574941_n.jpg ?oh=eafb874760ea37090daae8b8c66000f5&oe=5923698C

[dimviii]

engine problems today evening for Tanak according to French forum,halted him for 3 hours.

[EstWRC]

So they still haven't solved it then, last time they tested for monte they also had engine problems , not good.

[rage82]

[QUOTE=dimviii;1119290]what are they talking?
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x584f9t_d-ci-tv-les-essais-de-la-hyundai-i20-wrc-a-saint-andre-de-rosans-ce-mercredi_sport[/QUOT
They are talking that the Hyundai is looking fast and they like the car. Huyndai have worked on the differential setups, the guy with Martini racing hat is saying that for him Citroen is the fastest for the moment, Hyundai is looking also very good and if Ford is also fast it would be very interesting.

[EstWRC]

Sordo and Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mVp8o2zWWc&feature=youtu.be

[tomhlord]

Sordo and Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mVp8o2zWWc&feature=youtu.be

2:36. The way the Hyundai transitions from a handbrake-induced slide to forward motion looks pretty impressive to my untrained eyes.

[tomhlord]

Agreed. I believe that the 'next' roadgoing Yaris, for the EU at least, will be a heavily revised version of the existing platform.

i.e. 'new' Avensis has different sheet metal and dashboard, but actually dates back to 2009.

Thus, the Toyota WRC car was built upon the current spec road car, but now they seem to be adding new panels from the next road car, due to be launched soon/early 2017.

And here it is, the new road-going Yaris, based on the existing Yaris.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/first-official-pictures/toyota/toyota-yaris-hot-hatch-its-getting-warmer-in-2017/

Nice to see a a 'hot' Yaris for the road, tying the WRC campaign together.

[dimviii]

Paddon
https://youtu.be/rntaY8xLs1Q

[Mirek]

Nice to see a a 'hot' Yaris for the road, tying the WRC campaign together.

Nice to see the effort but who sane would buy this thing?

[Rally Power]

Nice to see the effort but who sane would buy this thing?

Black rims lovers? Apparently they're a growing group...

[tomhlord]

Black rims lovers? Apparently they're a growing group...

Seems that way!

[OnlyRally]

Seems that way!

If they made it 4wd and more power, i would like one :)


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[EstWRC]

still no vids of Tänak?

[Francis44]

Nice to see the effort but who sane would buy this thing?

Why would they not?! Hot hatches are hot in the market right now.

[Mirek]

Not really, hot hatches are kind of promotion for a car model but they are rarely profitable. Anyway the others at least look good. This car looks like a something from a village tuning party.

[Francis44]

Not really, hot hatches are kind of promotion for a car model but they are rarely profitable. Anyway the others at least look good. This car looks like a something from a village tuning party.

Rarely profitable or not, there is a wait list of 5 plus months for a Focus RS and several weeks for a 308 GTI. Sorry of the OT.

[Mirek]

So is for plenty of totally uniform cars. You have to see that the numbers of sold hot hatches are very small while the expenses for their existence are rather high. It's the common models which make money while the hot hatches make the promotion.

[sete]

:-)
I am driving Focus ST 2008 version and its pretty perfect.Nice and fast.Pretty fun to drive.
But Mirek is right

[danon]

Nice to see the effort but who sane would buy this thing?

same who bought the thing below...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Skoda_Fabia_II_Facelift_front_20100515.jpg

[dimviii]

Paddon
https://youtu.be/v130W4WOQj8

[maciotacio]

What a monster rear wing. That Yaris a least looks like the most complex aero wise car.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C19xzQlXEAA-Wkh.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yaris hot-hatch looked better in a sketch than in reality..

http://images.car.bauercdn.com/pagefiles/68489/yaris-sketch.jpg

[EstWRC]

Paddon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP_oLiA2zXU

[itix]

What a monster rear wing. That Yaris a least looks like the most complex aero wise car.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C19xzQlXEAA-Wkh.jpg
Saw it in some videos. Words can not describe how ugly it is...

[EstWRC]

Hänninen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R9KZwkjwm4

[dimviii]

Paddon
https://youtu.be/TtN9EIi_HVA

[A FONDO]

one more of Paddon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV2UxMWjAgA

[A FONDO]

2 mins of Sordo from Zagatoi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw4qDktRItk

Paddon today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2Cv9i0W8AATgnf.jpg:orig

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2CwCdWXAAYiopf.jpg:orig

[J_n_z]

Saw it in some videos. Words can not describe how ugly it is...

I don't work in automotive sphere, but here I feel duty to express engineering pov. Rear wing is meant to generate downforce, stability... it is its purpose. It is not meant to be married or even just desired. So its form is defined by certain phisical characteristics of airflow and not "being atractive". If I find an analogy in nature it is like comparing an owl and a rose... one is aerodinamic the other beautifull in its purpose.

[stefanvv]

I don't work in automotive sphere, but here I feel duty to express engineering pov. Rear wing is meant to generate downforce, stability... it is its purpose. It is not meant to be married or even just desired. So its form is defined by certain phisical characteristics of airflow and not "being atractive". If I find an analogy in nature it is like comparing an owl and a rose... one is aerodinamic the other beautifull in its purpose.

That's right. But as a marketing tool wrc except the obvious gain being the fastest, there is also pure car attraction side, well probably much less but still.

[itix]

I don't work in automotive sphere, but here I feel duty to express engineering pov. Rear wing is meant to generate downforce, stability... it is its purpose. It is not meant to be married or even just desired. So its form is defined by certain phisical characteristics of airflow and not "being atractive". If I find an analogy in nature it is like comparing an owl and a rose... one is aerodinamic the other beautifull in its purpose.
I am fully aware of this... It is about managing air flow and creating as much leverage on the rear wheels as possible.

Still doesn't make it pretty though. I liked the first iteration of their rear wing... This, however, not so much.

... Also owls are majestic creatures. The Toyota is not.

[EstWRC]

Ogier from michelin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9P-8D5dTlQ&feature=youtu.be&a

[Norm75]

Yes it is ugly, but designed to work in conjunction from the front wings back. Since shots of Ogier testing the Yaris, it is evident that the door skins have been widened, and sculpted similar to an 80's testerossa, flat at the top which leads from top of front wing, the aero door mirror arms, along this top edge of door skin and rear quarter panel to the bottom of the rear wing.

The car does seem to look stable at speed on Tarmac straights.

[EstWRC]

Paddon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWzfxKUdO0Q

[Eli]

Ogier from michelin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9P-8D5dTlQ&feature=youtu.be&a

looks promising as ever, looks very fast..doubt he won't take the win in Monte...

[chris_bakelas]

https://youtu.be/6dOmJuECGVM

Ogier test from Zagatoi....
Lot of understeer i think.

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[stefanvv]

Lot of understeer i think.

That's good for Monte.

[dimviii]

Paddon
https://youtu.be/rWJA8qNOgkQ

[Mirek]

https://youtu.be/6dOmJuECGVM

Ogier test from Zagatoi....
Lot of understeer i think.

Hmm, I think that the few moments where there is understeering are down to icy or very slippery road taken with a considerably higher than safe apex speed.


That's good for Monte.

Can You explain why do You think so?

[dimviii]

small clip from Evans,nothing special,but the view with the winding snow is magic.
https://youtu.be/wJmlHELwCSM

[dimviii]

Tidemand
https://youtu.be/zprOXY3ILBE

[stefanvv]

Can You explain why do You think so?

Eeh-eh, let me try - because oversteering in very-very slippery conditions is very-very bad. Kind of the enemy of your enemy is my friend.

Probably Lundefaret can make much more educated analysis (and possibly prove me wrong).

[Mirek]

Let's take it different way. Both oversteering and understeering are negative behavior. It's not like there are only two options, the good one is neither one of them. Understeering is for sure the safer bad thing as it is easier to predict especially for amateurs and it also secures better way of crashing (by front) but I somehow doubt that the general rule applies also for WRC drivers.

Anyway on ice with short studs or without studs at all I think that every 4x4 car sufferes from some understeering at the apex and oversteering at the exit simply because of very low level of grip (I admit that my only experience with studs on ice is from go-karts but with them the behavior was exactly like that - understeering at the apex becoming oversteering at the exit).


Tidemand
https://youtu.be/zprOXY3ILBE

That's weird video.

[dimviii]

recover after Ogier broke rear wheel
https://youtu.be/rLP2q28J9ms

[stefanvv]

Let's take it different way. Both oversteering and understeering are negative behavior. It's not like there are only two options, the good one is neither one of them. Understeering is for sure the safer bad thing as it is easier to predict especially for amateurs and it also secures better way of crashing (by front) but I somehow doubt that the general rule applies also for WRC drivers.

Anyway on ice with short studs or without studs at all I think that every 4x4 car sufferes from some understeering at the apex and oversteering at the exit simply because of very low level of grip (I admit that my only experience with studs on ice is from go-karts but with them the behavior was exactly like that - understeering at the apex becoming oversteering at the exit).

IMHO the oversteering on the exit on these conditions happens just because the rear wheels are on the worse side of the road, that's why I think car tend to understeer can be better in such, giving the car maximum drip at the exit. Otherwise of course none of underseer & oversteer is a good thing, but I agree understeering is "safer".

[stefanvv]

Ogier stops - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L065mNEChw

[spiderem]

Ogier from michelin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9P-8D5dTlQ&feature=youtu.be&a

Julien with old helmet... Sticker at the front to hide de VW logo, and tag heuer on the side... M-Sport have no money left :)

[chris_bakelas]

https://youtu.be/FR3SXqt787k

Lefebvre test...

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[RS]

https://youtu.be/FR3SXqt787k

Lefebvre test...

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This car looks almost perfect. I see it has PSA rear-bumper syndrome though.

I would like to see the Fiesta on dry asphalt, always hard to tell with all the cars on different roads but there's something I don't find too convincing about it at the moment, maybe chassis too stiff?

[EstWRC]

Fiesta dry asphalt https://youtu.be/G-1f-_Z58GE
https://youtu.be/ngH2Ums1yKU
https://youtu.be/tDFo7uWq53c

[RS]

Fiesta dry asphalt https://youtu.be/G-1f-_Z58GE
https://youtu.be/ngH2Ums1yKU
https://youtu.be/tDFo7uWq53c

Thanks, looks good on the fast, smooth sections at least.

[dupanton]

This car looks almost perfect. I see it has PSA rear-bumper syndrome though.


Maybe they took it off to test the effects of driving without the diffuser?

[RS]

Maybe they took it off to test the effects of driving without the diffuser?

Good idea if it is attached as well as the bumpers on the PSA R5s ;)

[EstWRC]

How much testing the teams did?

http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home/wrc/11090-wrc-teams-clock-up-the-testing-kilometres

Man, Toyota just crushes others

[danon]

https://youtu.be/FR3SXqt787k

Lefebvre test...

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My 7th chakra tells me that Ogier will have a hard time fighting Citroen this year...

http://bm.img.com.ua/berlin/storage/orig/f/09/9def7130fd79f4f2e853cc998e32709f.jpg

[car]

https://youtu.be/FR3SXqt787k

Lefebvre test...

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The hairpin taken at 3:00.... WOW!!!

[mousti]

Ogier testing, quite slippery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdC-VWxrHWY

[dimviii]

The hairpin taken at 3:00.... WOW!!!

at 4,19 much better

[pantealex]

How much testing the teams did?

http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home/wrc/11090-wrc-teams-clock-up-the-testing-kilometres

Man, Toyota just crushes others

Latvala has done 1500km, he says that he will be happy for Top 6 place in Monte.

[pantealex]

Julien with old helmet... Sticker at the front to hide de VW logo, and tag heuer on the side... M-Sport have no money left :)

Drivers "pays" helmet paints themselves, so maybe Seb has run out of helmet sponsors (or money) ;)

[EstWRC]

No no they have no money. Old helmets, tents etc. I wonder how they will survive this season.

[itix]

No no they have no money. Old helmets, tents etc. I wonder how they will survive this season.
I'm sure they will survive. Why change perfectly usable tents?
Remember that M-sport have made profit at the end of the year the last 3 or 4 seasons.

(unless you were sarcastic)

[car]

at 4,19 much better

Hadn't got that far before I posted... Yeah, a very neat flick.

[EstWRC]

I'm sure they will survive. Why change perfectly usable tents?
Remember that M-sport have made profit at the end of the year the last 3 or 4 seasons.

(unless you were sarcastic)

i was sarcastic.

[EstWRC]

Lefebvre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT6dHDr224I

[Norm75]

Maybe they took it off to test the effects of driving without the diffuser?
Highly likely, Matton has said they have been testing effects of damaged aero. Rear defuser will be the first thing that breaks off cars I would imagine.

[dimviii]

Lefebvre

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2Jgf6HW8AAhmB4.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2Jgg3iXcAAd2Uw.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2JghpuXAAEMAce.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2JgjTcXAAADVrh.jpg

[dimviii]

Evans
https://youtu.be/tpGBvrbrxBg

[tommeke_B]

https://www.facebook.com/JMSportphotographie/videos/1341713959185042/ :vader:

[EstWRC]

That was great to watch!

[dimviii]

https://www.facebook.com/JMSportphotographie/videos/1341713959185042/ :vader:

I would like to write before some minutes that cant wait to see Meekes videos at dry asphalt, after I saw Lefebvres ones.
Waiting to be super fast.
Lets wait for more and longer videos.

[denkimi]

The hairpin taken at 3:00.... WOW!!!


at 4,19 much better

lets hope he's not going to drive that way during the rally.

[Andre Oliveira]

Breen

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16114276_1282161571840033_8203782497839183979_n.jp g?oh=522ac807a87c77c20eaf672323ea68c1&oe=591B1958
https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16105639_1282161685173355_399507970893546690_n.jpg ?oh=c82f3bc910b830e27cc816f7b3135399&oe=5912BEA8
https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16105884_1282161471840043_8588205535145865421_n.jp g?oh=32f70691f911d0a32fdcc7ce523ba148&oe=591D3285

[dimviii]

Paddon

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2KAuf3XgAE7fE5.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2KAufqWQAA2ynY.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2KAufqXAAAkXw-.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2KAuf2WIAAK9bl.jpg

[EstWRC]

Meeke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSwHkvyCRJo
Breen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guEEU9jIgmY

[dimviii]

Meeke
https://youtu.be/r0GWBEuMEXE

[dimviii]

Μikkelsen
https://youtu.be/ITx1gjD3sPs

[FAlonso]

Hanninen by StephWrc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWg0YNCyXso

[RS]

The rear end on the Citroën looks so planted.. no fishtailing like the other cars and superb traction off the hairpins.

[Passion Rallye]

Test Rallye Monte Carlo 2017 - Bryan Bouffier / Denis Giraudet (Ford Fiesta R5) (HD)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFVz813FlTk

[Mirek]

Hanninen by StephWrc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWg0YNCyXso

There has been a massive progress since two months a go. Nice.


Meeke
https://youtu.be/r0GWBEuMEXE

Completely different driving than Lefebvre.


Μikkelsen
https://youtu.be/ITx1gjD3sPs

Video deleted...

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=iIi0292IKMo

[dimviii]

Meeke
https://youtu.be/VnoJDooqdqk


Camilli today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2NdLlpWIAAD-Yb.jpg
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2017/post-3061-0-74881200-1484481136.jpg


http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2017/post-3061-0-77895600-1484481243.jpg

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2017/post-3061-0-67256900-1484483792.jpg

[dimviii]

Breen
https://youtu.be/WbIBAo6hJj0

[dimviii]

Remmcrae ‏@Remmcrae 10h
10 hours ago

@AriVatanen came to say hello to @OttTanak at @MSportLtd #test #RallyeMonteCarlo #montetest

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2MuNH9XUAEMZkk.jpg

[EstWRC]

well, he is estonian autosport union president so no wonder but still a nice surprise :)

[stefanvv]

He's also the last Ford world champion 36 years ago, which also might change this year.

[dimviii]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/16107105_1255272201206479_5427362813247573693_o.jp g?oh=99b8d09c705337d642f3ddaf01ad9a7e&oe=5924AE03
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2Pidd3WgAArt66.jpg

[Toyoda]

The rear end on the Citroën looks so planted.. no fishtailing like the other cars and superb traction off the hairpins.

Totally agree, wonder if its active diff, suspension related or its the driver?

[Grundo Farb]

Totally agree, wonder if its active diff, suspension related or its the driver?

Or the surface conditions, or the tyres etc etc...

[A FONDO]

or he's just not pushing enough. everything will be revealed in a few days when they battle the clock.

[EstWRC]

Tänak from Michelin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw2N0D1vlfc

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2Tkv7jW8AARJeC.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2TVyg0XUAIkyGv.jpg

[EstWRC]

Ogier/Tänak/Evans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZO-pz4mf1A&feature=youtu.be

[Andre Oliveira]

And Boland ;)

[seb_sh]

Ogier/Tänak/Evans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZO-pz4mf1A&feature=youtu.be

Looking at this video, especially the first part the "body language" of the Ford looks good. I think potentially the Ford, Citroen and Hyundai will be close. Surely some will have advantages and disadvantages in certain conditions but to my "amateur" eye they are all looking good. Even more hyped for this season :D The only problem is one "thing" in the WRC is still in a higher class than the rest, hopefully someone can "level up" ;)

[A FONDO]

We are all hyped but realistically everyone will be cautious with setup and driving in the first 4-5 rounds. The real action should begin in 2018 when they spend their first homologation jokers.

[jparker]

We are all hyped but realistically everyone will be cautious with setup and driving in the first 4-5 rounds. The real action should begin in 2018 when they spend their first homologation jokers.

I'm sure some teams see opportunity in this situation, and will not be so cautious. Based on the past, and from other motor-sport projects, Toyota will be all in from the beginning.

[Rally Power]

We are all hyped but realistically everyone will be cautious with setup and driving in the first 4-5 rounds. The real action should begin in 2018 when they spend their first homologation jokers.

Are you serious? What's the point of being "cautious" (really a strange word to use in Rallysport) for so long? They'll go flat out from day 1. If some, possibily Citroen, will show some advantage, the others will try to fight back the next event, not the next season...

[markpcym]

after all the testing, and new regs,cars etc. they will have a point to prove of who is quickest, best set up and so on. no way will they be holding back and why should they, they will be at 10/tenths!!

[RS]

Unless we get some dry monte stages where they all choose the same tyres we're probably not going to be able to tell much about car performance this weekend.

I'm personally much more excited for the start of this WRC season than previous ones. New car regs, some big driver changes and a new team joining, plus previously dominant VW leaving should all shake things up nicely.

[dimviii]

Fredrik Gustavsson ‏@F_Gustavsson 14m
14 minutes ago


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Hyundai will test for @RallySweden this week, @thierryneuville is in Östersund

[Allez Andruet]

JML said in an interview that Toyota will do testing for Sweden in Finland, both JML and Hänninen driving two days.

[Andre Oliveira]

Neuville by rallynews37

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C27SL73XEAA3jad?format=jpg&name=large

[AMSS]

JML said in an interview that Toyota will do testing for Sweden in Finland, both JML and Hänninen driving two days.

Also M-sport a test scheduled before Sweden, 2 days Ogier rest Tänak and Evans

[dimviii]

Neuville

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3B5EXIUkAAB8jD.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3B5EXJVIAACTiv.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3B5EbEUAAAh0jJ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3BSWEUXUAIiJSu.jpg

[nafpaktos]

no video yet?

[EstWRC]

Better late than never, someone has uploaded a vid of Tänak Monte test https://youtu.be/6OrNruCrfec

Quite fun to watch and a little mistake at 2:00

[FinRal]

Latvala start to test tomorrow!

[dimviii]

no video from Neuvilles testing?

[dimviii]

Latvala

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3U5fVxXAAArgMT.jpg

[dimviii]

Latvala

http://tuomastoyryralli.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Jari-Matti%20Latvala%20Toyota%20Yaris%20WRC%20Testit%20 29.1.2017/IMG_6013.JPG?img=img1280


more photos
https://tuomastoyryralli.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Jari-Matti+Latvala+Toyota+Yaris+WRC+Testit+29.1.2017/

[DonJippo]

Latvala's test, short clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3hFs6w_KHc

[Hartusvuori]

Our video from Latvala's yesterday tests: https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/825774820268900353

Only on Twitter. Some other clips there too.

[Hartusvuori]

https://youtu.be/60UulF3hB14
Latvala Day 1 by Rallirinki

[dimviii]

nice photo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3b1WjaWYAANDYC.jpg

[DonJippo]

Latvala https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEaYF-CjksY

[dimviii]

Breen
https://youtu.be/w-1Ha-m44HQ

[lnvs]

Breen video is from early January. Seems like that channel just rips from others.

[SubaruNorway]

Maybe just Hänninen endurance testing, doesn't look very fast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz2c7fLXecw&t=0s

[EstWRC]

m-sport testing schedule, Ogier yesterday(tuesday) and today (wednesday), Tänak thursday and friday and Evans on saturday.


but i doubt we will have some good videos because usually they test in the middle of nowhere.

[Andre Oliveira]

Ogier by Chris Ingram: https://www.facebook.com/chrisingramrally/videos/1487018694643542/

Ogier by Andreas Rille Rickt: https://www.facebook.com/OfficialRallySweden/videos/1284876754938548/

[Hartusvuori]

Maybe just Hänninen endurance testing, doesn't look very fast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz2c7fLXecw&t=0s

Juho was struggling with Latvala's set ups and has spent much of these two test days trying find his own prefered set up. It indeed looks very tame on videos, but I've seen a few faster clips too.

[Sulland]

Juho was struggling with Latvala's set ups and has spent much of these two test days trying find his own prefered set up. It indeed looks very tame on videos, but I've seen a few faster clips too.

What do we know of the two different driving styles, and preferences in the root set-up?

[maciotacio]

So, RK is testing Abarth 124 today. Car has special Kubica's gearshift system. Maybe we will see him doing some rallies, who knows.
https://twitter.com/SVrally/status/827113712318287877

[Franky]

Could we please stop using stupid name abbreviations?

[N.O.T]

Could we please stop using stupid name abbreviations?

Its one of the cancers that F1 has brought to us, and mostly the basic uk people use.

[dimviii]

Teemu / Rallirinki ‏@HartusvuoriWRC 2h
2 hours ago


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Tomorrow will be first proper #WRC testing day for @EsapekkaLappi with #YarisWRC. Definitely an exciting for him. #WRC #WRC2017

[EstWRC]

little clip of Ott from his instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/BQBT9blA5b4/

[Micke_VOC]

I will try to visit some of the WRC2-tests this weekend in the area around Torsby.

I think all factory WRC-crews have tested already this week.. ( Hyundai and Ford in Östersund and Toyota in Finland)
Maybe Citroen will test more now in the area, but haven't heard anything about it.
So i try to catch some of the "private entrants" in WRC and WRC2 instead. To be continued...

[Dug83]

What do we know of the two different driving styles, and preferences in the root set-up?

Tommi explains the difference at the bottom of this interview

http://www.topgear.com/car-news/tommi-makinen-you-just-go-absolutely-flat-out-everywhere

[dimviii]

Teemu / Rallirinki ‏@HartusvuoriWRC 1h
1 hour ago


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Lappi's test day was cut short due to some issues not known to us, but looking at his driving now - wow! Spectacular to say the least.

[gorganl2000]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zZg4KtM_Ew

not sure if this was posted already --a short clip of Lappi's test

[Vaggelis27]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Fohs6aN3pw Lappi..Looks fast!

[Micke_VOC]

So got some info tonight, so i will at least see one WRC-17 testing tomorrow =)

[Loose_Unit]

Does anyone know if paddon has tested for sweden yet? Feeling a bit nervous at his lack of time in the 17 car compared to everyone else's testing, even disregarding the obvious monte drama

[dimviii]

3 small clips from Breen
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK?lang=el

[torsteinrp]

Mads Östberg- Rally Sweden 2017 Test "Small clips in the comments"
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154199187971766&set=a.10151108932001766.437316.591821765&type=3&theater&notif_t=video_processed&notif_id=1486220863735220

[dimviii]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQGFUqtAX8v/

[dimviii]

nice clip from Mads
https://twitter.com/MadsOstberg

[dimviii]

DMACK Tyres ‏@DMACK_Tyres


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Good pre @RallySweden test today with @ElfynEvans - trying to do some important set up work for the fast stages

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C31g9s8WAAA5HW3.jpg

[dimviii]

Evans clip
https://twitter.com/OsianPryce

[Micke_VOC]

Visited Mads Östbergs PET today. Had a plan to visit more tests but couldn't go therefrom.
What a car ! What a attack ! What a livery ! =)

Some short clips from today here,.
https://www.facebook.com/rallyemag/videos/10155039653249973/ (Already 75 000 views)

https://twitter.com/MickeLindh/status/827895915658801152

https://twitter.com/MickeLindh/status/827869486577483776

https://twitter.com/MickeLindh/status/827868680394571776

Longer video will be up on Youtube in some days.
Tomorrow i visit Pontus Tidemand´s test.

[SubaruNorway]

Longer video of Østberg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLVyRAt2cxbxue8rPiqkm5RpTMmYPjDOSr&v=EgAg6uB1ddU

[Micke_VOC]

My video from today.
Very spectacular and fast driving by Mads !
Cross my fingers at his pace are back now.

https://youtu.be/Ut9QWY7XtuE

1215 (https://youtu.be/Ut9QWY7XtuE)

[Andre Oliveira]

Great stuff :) many thanks

[Micke_VOC]

A friend visited Craig Breen PET today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TzuB7uU0HA

[dimviii]

^to much fast playing

[Sulland]

Not sure if this version is on here:
https://youtu.be/EgAg6uB1ddU?list=PLVyRAt2cxbxue8rPiqkm5RpTMmYPjDOS r

[SubaruNorway]

^to much fast playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU

[EstWRC]

Really disappointed with you Swedish guys once again....you missed fast guys like Ogier, Tänak and Neuville but filmed slow guys :p

[stefanvv]

^to much fast playing

Just don't be disappointed when they're slow in the "real race":D

[USER47]

^to much fast playing
Are you sure it isn't just you not being used to faster cars and videos with framerate around 50 or 60 fps?

[EstWRC]

yeah i have also wondered that dimviii is the only one saying that the videos are speed up

[MartijnS]

Yes, told it before, he is obsessed with speeded up videos. Everytime I try to see it myself..but miss it appartently haha.

[dimviii]

so speed at Breens video is normal? lol

[dimviii]

that's the normal speed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15mYIFGKnhc

[USER47]

I don't see a difference, apart from one video being shot in 50 fps and your video being shot in more common 30 fps.

[KKS]

I agree with dimviii - video is speed-up.
And if you think that because of high rate fps - switch youtube to 480p (480p only with 30fps) and see... same speed-up video.
PS And too fast movements of vegetation

[dimviii]

Meeke
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3409DvXUAAT73k.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C34tnC5WEAA0wC6.jpg

[N.O.T]

^to much fast playing

that is what 60fps looks like in true HD, its not fast playing.

[N.O.T]

I agree with dimviii - video is speed-up.
And if you think that because of high rate fps - switch youtube to 480p (480p only with 30fps) and see... same speed-up video.
PS And too fast movements of vegetation

youtube does not limit the fps man.... if something is shot at 60fps youtube does not cut down the extra fps, it will show 60fps even if you put it at 30.

[Franky]

Now, first of all let's get the frame rates correct. In majority of the world videos are shot at 25, 50, 100, etc fps. In the Americas videos are 30, 60, 120, etc fps (actually they are a little less than those numbers).

And Youtube does convert/re-encode the videos. High frame rates are supported only with resolutions that are at least 1280x720. Everything that is below that is converted to non-high frame rate video, if the uploaded file is a high fps video.

For me uploading high fps videos is a bit puzzling. Essentially high frame rates are for slow motion. Human brain can't even register every single frame when watching 25fps video.

[dimviii]

that is what 60fps looks like in true HD, its not fast playing.

Greg what I am seeing is not normal speed.I don't care what is the reason,the speed I watch is NOT normal.
Watch the 2 videos from Breen tests.The second one is at normal speed,and if I am not wrong there are common corners between these 2 videos.

[EstWRC]

little clips of Tänak and Evans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oABx6-8y4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK8RJxmA6oY

nice conditions!

[torsteinrp]

Kris Meeke PET Rally Sweden 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufpoRohLDH0

[SubaruNorway]

That's nearly 7 hours north of Torsby, not sure it's the best to test there because it's quite a bit different with how it usually is in Rally Sweden

[Rallyper]

That's nearly 7 hours north of Torsby, not sure it's the best to test there because it's quite a bit different with how it usually is in Rally Sweden

Tanak, Evans, yes. But Meeke very similar test roads.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

^to much fast playing

Craig Breen himself just tweeted that video... must think it's ok.

Bear in mind that these test runs get faster and faster as the driver repeats them. And we dont know which run is being filmed, the first or the last.

[KKS]

youtube does not limit the fps man.... if something is shot at 60fps youtube does not cut down the extra fps, it will show 60fps even if you put it at 30.
They really do that. They re-encode every uploaded video. And for 144p, 280p, 480p - maximum available fps - 30. Even if you upload 200fps video - on youtube it be on 480p quality with 30fps.
And if you right-click on youtube video click on "more stats for experienced users" (or so) - you can see actual fps.
720p - 50fps
http://i.piccy.info/i9/ce4ce4c3ff02a210387a126fca9790f7/1486311863/58819/1052502/Breen_50fps.jpg

480p - 25fps, same video
http://i.piccy.info/i9/30360aaada97d95d28f597d6e28206cf/1486311935/60292/1052502/Breen_25fps.jpg

And both of that videos (high and low fps) - are speedup

[dimviii]

Craig Breen himself just tweeted that video... must think it's ok.

Bear in mind that these test runs get faster and faster as the driver repeats them. And we dont know which run is being filmed, the first or the last.

the video is playing faster,sorry if you cant understand it.

[N.O.T]

They really do that. They re-encode every uploaded video. And for 144p, 280p, 480p - maximum available fps - 30. Even if you upload 200fps video - on youtube it be on 480p quality with 30fps.
And if you right-click on youtube video click on "more stats for experienced users" (or so) - you can see actual fps.
720p - 50fps
http://i.piccy.info/i9/ce4ce4c3ff02a210387a126fca9790f7/1486311863/58819/1052502/Breen_50fps.jpg

480p - 25fps, same video
http://i.piccy.info/i9/30360aaada97d95d28f597d6e28206cf/1486311935/60292/1052502/Breen_25fps.jpg

And both of that videos (high and low fps) - are speedup

cool, do you have anything that can you provide as proof that the video is sped up ? and also is it something that you must do intentionally or it can happen through he encoding?

[dimviii]

Lukyanuk testing

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C36g11WXAAAw-8v.jpg

[lnvs]

the video is playing faster,sorry if you cant understand it.Do you think every 50 or 60fps video is speed up or just this one?

[dimviii]

Do you think every 50 or 60fps video is speed up or just this one?

mate I have no idea about fps videos and uploads,just what I watch at this video is not at normal speed.From the snow dust when passes the car,the ultra fast gear change,the different blow off whistle,the way changes direction from left sideways to right sideways etc.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So all YT videos are faster than they should be, or just some rally ones ?

I dont see problems with any other general YT uploads or complaints by others. Surely things like music uploads would show this speeding up and be unacceptable.

[Andre Oliveira]

Meeke

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16507824_630656900454008_710462687835760281_n.jpg? oh=63c7d5141ba7900ff19e2f733aded599&oe=58FDC430
https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16508284_630656917120673_1802377066541676228_n.jpg ?oh=af6c6103a8df0913212739f9bf1800b6&oe=59130BB7

[Rallyper]

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16507824_630656900454008_710462687835760281_n.jpg? oh=63c7d5141ba7900ff19e2f733aded599&oe=58FDC430
https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16508284_630656917120673_1802377066541676228_n.jpg ?oh=af6c6103a8df0913212739f9bf1800b6&oe=59130BB7

@dimviii I think they speeded up in th reality as well. :) :)

[dimviii]

@dimviii I think they speeded up in th reality as well. :) :)

lol good one Per!
Meeke trying to surpass Latvala and Mc Rae?

[JUF]

Oh Kris :(

[KKS]

cool, do you have anything that can you provide as proof that the video is sped up ? and also is it something that you must do intentionally or it can happen through he encoding?
For this moment - I can't. I will try to find some reference points and calculate actual driving time, if I can find it

And yep, speed-up video doing on purpose, youtube re-encode or low/hi fps doesn't speed-up video.

With snow vid's it difficult to see, but on this one https://youtu.be/9bKgYnuP1-g?t=3m32s clearly see - video is speed-up.

[Andre Oliveira]

Kris is that, like Latvala.

Why people stayed so excited with wins, obviously obtained, cause stupid running order and championship chooses of Ogier?

Meeke under pressure will fail as allways, as Latvala, as Neuville, as...

[Rallyper]

For this moment - I can't. I will try to find some reference points and calculate actual driving time, if I can find it

And yep, speed-up video doing on purpose, youtube re-encode or low/hi fps doesn't speed-up video.

With snow vid's it difficult to see, but on this one https://youtu.be/9bKgYnuP1-g?t=3m32s clearly see - video is speed-up.

Yeah, looked a bit speeded. What I can´t understand is how sound still can be so realistic.

[A FONDO]

Who crashes before the rally is safe during it. Like JML in Monte. With some guys you always expect it to happen, so better now than later.

[dimviii]

Yeah, looked a bit speeded. What I can´t understand is how sound still can be so realistic.

its not realistic,but is harder to understand the speed-up sound compared to speed up vision.Thats why I mentioned at previous post faster gear changes and different blow off whistle sounds.
They are not all videos speed up,even not speed up at same speed.Bunnings video from KKS post is way faster than Breens one,dont tell me that t this video also you cant recognise the faster playing rhythm?

[dimviii]

Who crashes before the rally is safe during it. Like JML in Monte. With some guys you always expect it to happen, so better now than later.

Meeke is crashing for the 4th-5th rally in a row?

[Andre Oliveira]

Meeke crashed before MC and during MC.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

MEEKE: There was a slow roll for Kris Meeke and Paul Nagle on their PET today for @RallySweden. Crew OK.
https://t.co/BwV853hGVA

[A FONDO]

Meeke crashed before MC and during MC.

It was in December I think, not the week before the rally.

[EstWRC]

pressure or no pressure...makes a huge difference...

[EstWRC]

Meeke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DDtla7hPnM

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/MartinProkopOfficial/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1108315952608125

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16602970_1108317382607982_7023000304191099423_n.jp g?oh=e4fbe35c5cbbb4a38099cd783576905a&oe=593CFB80
https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16508788_1108318189274568_8190796426013282498_n.jp g?oh=1536bd396c0c4325331eb5985002114d&oe=594C593A
https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16473353_1108316419274745_2620837342305635886_n.jp g?oh=c193f5e25c87ea18aff753302d310e0a&oe=5901363B

[dimviii]

Tidemand
https://youtu.be/DI5WbTP6AyY

[Micke_VOC]

Really disappointed with you Swedish guys once again....you missed fast guys like Ogier, Tänak and Neuville but filmed slow guys :p

A very easy why.....
All of them tested in Östersund-area, around 600 km !! north from the rallyarea. Not so much people there who are following the test as we do here =)

[EstWRC]

understandable...take that post with pinch of salt ;)

[Micke_VOC]

So a other good day for me..
We started in Anttilla, around 40 km north of Torsby watching Tidemand and Veiby test. Good speed with R5-cars !
Lot of snow there, around 25-40 cm in terrain and at least 10 cm of fresh snow from the night. Should be good for the norther stages.

Then of to Meeke test. Very spectacular driving by him and went very very wide everywhere.
Also here around 5 cm fresh snow from the night, and this was south of servicepark.

My video from Meeke test here.
https://youtu.be/-DDtla7hPnM

[dimviii]

A very easy why.....
All of them tested in Östersund-area, around 600 km !! north from the rallyarea. Not so much people there who are following the test as we do here =)
Μicke why so far away from rally area? cant find proper conditions nearer?

[Micke_VOC]

Μicke why so far away from rally area? cant find proper conditions nearer?

I don´t really understand why. I can maybe understand when they doing December-test, because winter are much earlier there than here. But why now, one week before the rally ??

Much better to test on the roads who have similar character and same conditions.

[DonJippo]

Greg what I am seeing is not normal speed.I don't care what is the reason,the speed I watch is NOT normal.
Watch the 2 videos from Breen tests.The second one is at normal speed,and if I am not wrong there are common corners between these 2 videos.

Can your educated eye tell if 2017 videos are faster the ones from 2016? And by how much, 1sec per minute or perhaps even more? Or do we need to wait until Mexico or even Portugal to find out?


:D: :hot:

[EstWRC]

nothing about Paddon? it seems he didnt test or everyone missed it...Neuville tested in the beginning of the week and Sordo yesterday or was it the day before but nothing on Hayden.

[dimviii]

Meeke video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WEIHvbb7os&feature=youtu.be

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WEIHvbb7os&feature=youtu.be

What do you think of the video speed in this one ?

[Loose_Unit]

nothing about Paddon? it seems he didnt test or everyone missed it...Neuville tested in the beginning of the week and Sordo yesterday or was it the day before but nothing on Hayden.

That's what I'm wanting to know. I saw written somewhere that he tested but havent seen any vids or pics. He needs as much seat time in this car as possible

[andyone]

Meeke video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WEIHvbb7os&feature=youtu.be

awesome. i sawa a picture of a rolled citroen who was it who rolled meeke or Breen?

[GravelBen]

That's what I'm wanting to know. I saw written somewhere that he tested but havent seen any vids or pics. He needs as much seat time in this car as possible


nothing about Paddon? it seems he didnt test or everyone missed it...Neuville tested in the beginning of the week and Sordo yesterday or was it the day before but nothing on Hayden.

http://alittlebitsideways.co.nz/paddon-gets-back-basics-wrc-sweden/

[EstWRC]

thanks! great to hear that he tested.

[dimviii]

Bergvist

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3-AoykWYAAvp8u.jpg

[dimviii]

Αlso Breen had a small off the day before Meeke rolled

Citroen's test C3 WRC had already been in the wars after Meeke's team-mate Craig Breen dropped it the day before, damaging a rear quarter.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128013/meeke-crashes-in-prerally-sweden-test

[itix]

Meeke

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16507824_630656900454008_710462687835760281_n.jpg? oh=63c7d5141ba7900ff19e2f733aded599&oe=58FDC430
https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16508284_630656917120673_1802377066541676228_n.jpg ?oh=af6c6103a8df0913212739f9bf1800b6&oe=59130BB7
Looks like it's going to be another disastrous year with Meeke.

Why on earth did I regain hope that he could get results only to have it crushed again?

[KKS]

Looks like it's going to be another disastrous year with Meeke.

Why on earth did I regain hope that he could get results only to have it crushed again?
You made your conclusion after see those pics?

[itix]

You made your conclusion after see those pics?
I have made that conclusion given his recent form.

He started last year brilliantly with only some rocks taking out the suspension twice hampering progress but still, he was consistent and fast. Portugal and Finland proved that.

After that he started making mistakes again and now he does them regularly :(

Like someone said back in 2015, it gives you a lot of gray hairs being a fan of Meeke.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

"I ran a little bit wide, dropped into a ditch and rolled. That's it.

"Otherwise, the day had gone well and we'd made good progress.

"I'm happy with the running we did and with our preparations for the event.

"If it had have happened earlier in the day, we'd have been back on our wheels and running in no time.

"This is why we go testing, these things can happen."

No biggy then.. ;)

[KKS]

I have made that conclusion given his recent form.

He started last year brilliantly with only some rocks taking out the suspension twice hampering progress but still, he was consistent and fast. Portugal and Finland proved that.

After that he started making mistakes again and now he does them regularly :(

Like someone said back in 2015, it gives you a lot of gray hairs being a fan of Meeke.
He got a pressure on his shoulders, he a leading driver of WRTeam, in this case he try too much and overrun limit too often, but pre-event tests done special for that to find a grip level and find a own "red line". Small off in pre-event test it's normal. And better it was happen before the rally.

[sollitt]

It's called testing folks! Testing is where you find limits.

[AL14]

Meeke is gonna win it guys. I will chose him in Ostberg bet site.

[AL14]

Alexey Lukyanuk onboard testing for Sweden https://www.facebook.com/alexey.lukyanuk/videos/1406318522772686/

[danon]

Meeke - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNqTXzv-Xjg

[USER47]

Nice video from Prokop/Ostberg team.
https://vimeo.com/203030836

[dimviii]

small clip with Paddon testing for Mexico
https://twitter.com/HaydenPaddon

[dimviii]

2 small clips from Extreme shox with Hyundai at pre Mexico tests
https://twitter.com/extreme_shox

[satukata]

Toyota and Jarimatti tested today in Finland

[er88]

Can Toyota test as much as they want in Finland as that's where they are based? Or is there still a restriction on the number of days?

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

[satukata]

Big news. 16 years old Kalle Rovanpera got best rallymanager Timo Jouhki. Kalle drives 1st rally in finland next weekend in finnish championship with Skoda fabia R5. Test video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe2MEf-wN7E
Kalle have allready tested Toyota WRC too.

[satukata]

[QUOTE=er88;1127016]Can Toyota test as much as they want in Finland as that's where they are based? Or is there still a restriction on the number of days?

Toyota can drive as much as they want in Jyväskylä area of central Finnland. Other places in Europe they can test 55days/year.

I think testing possibility in Finnland is advantage for team

[dimviii]

Sordo
https://youtu.be/QfKe3CWpM0M

[Doon]

[QUOTE=er88;1127016]Can Toyota test as much as they want in Finland as that's where they are based? Or is there still a restriction on the number of days?

Toyota can drive as much as they want in Jyväskylä area of central Finnland. Other places in Europe they can test 55days/year.

I think testing possibility in Finnland is advantage for team

So where are the other team permitted to test as much as they like? Seems a bit odd considering testing limitations were made for cost cutting purposes.

[dimviii]

Οgier testing for Mexico
https://youtu.be/j6A2EGZ1rs8

https://youtu.be/C6Rh3YsTwDE

[Andre Oliveira]

Ogier by Jaume Soler

https://www.facebook.com/jsaxsm/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1411819832218723

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16807174_1411820005552039_7332539198512652783_n.jp g?oh=fd61f54ce957c4e8c755289a200a680d&oe=593C8183
https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16831109_1411820008885372_2693104729772329186_n.jp g?oh=25a5d991a60ded39d3e01f56ee932018&oe=58FF85CF
https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16648991_1411819998885373_4391959450581621721_n.jp g?oh=48b8b88b9511c09b158d71f24703cb76&oe=592E33AC

[dimviii]

Ogier small clip
https://twitter.com/hugo_blancher

[A FONDO]

Spanish too lazy to make videos and upload to Youtube.

[EstWRC]

it will come for sure from Jaume, he always makes videos...Ogier also tomorrow and then Tänak on tuesday and Wednesday and Evans on Thursday

[Andre Oliveira]

Jaume video of Ogier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyOHLwV8kHk

[Andre Oliveira]

Ogier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrqb0i6DiE

[Andre Oliveira]

Ogier by Sudrallye: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkQF0JwGBwE

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1865102473733323.1073741885.166089237415433 5&type=3

[tomhlord]

Spanish too lazy to make videos and upload to Youtube.

You could, you know, go out and make a video....

[SubaruNorway]

You could, you know, go out and make a video....

Was about to say the same thing, he's obvioulsy an expert in both video and photo so they should be amazing ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Off for Latvala in Spanish test:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5GkiUWWYAAdV7f.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5GlQo2WMAAv0By.jpg

[Andre Oliveira]

Ogier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8y3uyxn-lI

[A FONDO]

Latvala looking for the "feeling"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5Gix5PWEAIL0v0.jpg

[A FONDO]

You could, you know, go out and make a video....
If I have the opportunity I will gladly do it and share everything.

[dimviii]

it was a high speed roll,good they are both ok!Small clip here
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK

[COD]

it was a high speed roll,good they are both ok!Small clip here
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK

Lost it under braking, nothing too serious by the looks of it