WRC Testing

[dimviii]

Ogier
https://youtu.be/wp-HWp9E4fU

[itix]

Correct, it is a pitot tube. Also visible from the in car shots in this video
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153828338542057&id=34740377056

[Tinke1979]

Jari-Matti Latvala - Miikka Anttila and this years Volkswagen Polo R WRC PET Rally Finland 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J42SzLCSc58

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It's aero balance problem, not intentional. You have massive rear wing and diffuser creating a lot of downforce and in the front you only have front spoiler.

Citroen Sport on tarmac test state: "On the aerodynamic front, we now have the ability to adapt the lower part of the front bumper specifically for asphalt.”

So it seems they can get more downforce on tarmac this way, but not on gravel...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier in 2016 & 2017 car tests

https://youtu.be/yJOGT86s-_Q

[Extremrallye]

Another day in Finland testihg. Paddon/JML :
https://youtu.be/TexP4xlqlek

[dimviii]

Neuville
https://youtu.be/3wN12dn-qg4

[dimviii]

Latvala
https://youtu.be/LufFlSroYco

[dimviii]

Meeke testting

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoH2QztXYAALMxM.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoH2Q0pXYAABX8S.jpg

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoIRs8aW8AARDha.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoIRtMRWIAAiehd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoIRtMRWcAArMIp.jpg

[Simmi]

Come on Kris! Hoping to see him in the fight for the win next week.

[Naigelii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryX4OX

Videoclips from Mikkelsen test in Finland.

[satukata]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAnZ41hHYpg

[Thousandlakes]

Hi everybody. I am new member here. Finally :) Just wondering if somebody can tell after seeing in live what is the feeling of a new 2017 spec wrc cars. How much more sound there is compare 2016 spec cars? Is there any flames and bangs like old times? VW tested with both cars this week in near Jämsä. Somebody was there? Was there big difference with speed and sound compare next year car? Cannot really see difference when looking those youtube videos.

[SubaruNorway]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryX4OX

Videoclips from Mikkelsen test in Finland.

Link doesn't work

[Zeakiwi]

Referring to this one?
https://youtu.be/ryX4OXv8vgc (Mikkelsen - Finland 2016)

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFvg0tu0mMQ

[Naigelii]

Link doesn't work


Yeah sorry about that.
Here is link wich one works, some1 posted it already but:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryX4OXv8vgc

[dimviii]

Ligato

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoNh5qTWAAA92BP.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoNh-eDWYAAYWNZ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoNiDvJWYAAUoW_.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hi everybody. I am new member here. Finally :) Just wondering if somebody can tell after seeing in live what is the feeling of a new 2017 spec wrc cars. How much more sound there is compare 2016 spec cars? Is there any flames and bangs like old times? VW tested with both cars this week in near Jämsä. Somebody was there? Was there big difference with speed and sound compare next year car? Cannot really see difference when looking those youtube videos.

I have only seen videos too, but the 2017 cars make the 2016 ones look quite dull ... plus they sound much better to me with more roar and chatter.

Not quite Group B effect yet, but certainly getting there. :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The Yaris sounds awesome here:

https://youtu.be/Y3YUhUApXv4

[SubaruNorway]

The Yaris sounds awesome here:

https://youtu.be/Y3YUhUApXv4

Doubt the FIA would let you drive with a cracked manifold or what that was :p

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Recent Yaris Finland test sounds great too...
https://youtu.be/jgjX9oowu98

[satukata]

bad crash in wrc3 pet https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/757508758293606401/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[Thousandlakes]

Yeah. Yaris sounds nice some videos and can see little flames aswell. very promising. I think every rallyfans missing that. Just remembering Celica in 1994. Not to mention group b cars. I think C3 sounds like ds3. Not big difference there. Hope I am wrong. But anyway rallying is going to right direction with these new rules. Looks good again after many years :)

[Mariusz]

bad crash in wrc3 pet https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/757508758293606401/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
They will skip the rally, the car won't be fixed that soon. Some spectators were very lucky there, they were centimeters from being hit.

[over jump]

Ogier testing in Finland 2017&2016 car
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi_uzbybYHw

[Eli]

Recent Yaris Finland test sounds great too...
https://youtu.be/jgjX9oowu98

that sounds like a very mean Yaris, looks mean too, at least at the front.

[Andre Oliveira]

I saw Yaris test here at Fafe, and sounds amazing.

[HarriK]

bad crash in wrc3 pet https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/757508758293606401/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

That is same spot than Lukyanuk crashed last year if I'm right?

[satukata]

That is same spot than Lukyanuk crashed last year if I'm right?

one jump before

[HarriK]

YEah, but almost same. Noticed from photo.

[EstWRC]

Citroen yesterday in fafe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYS1La2rK-k&feature=youtu.be

[itix]

https://m.facebook.com/MSportLtd/albums/1187700111273039/

This is apparently M-sports 2017 car. Has it passed under the radar or have I been sleeping under a rock?

[Lundefaret]

https://m.facebook.com/MSportLtd/albums/1187700111273039/

This is apparently M-sports 2017 car. Has it passed under the radar or have I been sleeping under a rock?

"launched" today, but like Hyundai its a mule car, so we´ll have to wait and see :)

[dimviii]

https://m.facebook.com/MSportLtd/albums/1187700111273039/

This is apparently M-sports 2017 car. Has it passed under the radar or have I been sleeping under a rock?

cant see it,please attache the photo here.

edit i just saw it at an other topic.

[Kielder]

A short video I've recorded today in Mondim de Basto:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fts_aqDyfyA&feature=youtu.be

[dimviii]

A short video I've recorded today in Mondim de Basto:

Kielder any comments regarding 2017 wrc vs old ones?


new video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c81xOvTne9k

[dimviii]

and a new one from D10M
car seems pretty fast...

https://youtu.be/x9PhdB--CFM

[Kielder]

Some photos too:

http://i63.tinypic.com/2gsnams.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/309lerr.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/eu0z5w.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/2lij70z.jpg
http://i65.tinypic.com/21oq58p.jpg

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beRlZBVPfG4

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLeVFyZqWzA

[dimviii]

some better spots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDqTI3qtt5E


waiting plenty stage records to broke from 2017 cars,already from first year.

[jbmarcus21]

Mikko Hirvonen debuts test with Toyota today => http://goo.gl/0Bsw7i

[pantealex]

Mikko Hirvonen debuts test with Toyota today => http://goo.gl/0Bsw7i

"debuts" = 1st time driving this month

[EstWRC]

Speaking about Mikko it was nice to see him in real life in rally finland. It was in the end of Mökkiperä stage, he walked past the people with his children looking for a good spot. We noticed it first and it took quite a while for locals to recognize him. When they recognized him they shouted his name and he waved friendly for us :)

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpFEhJnWEAAxZ2P.jpg

[dimviii]

here we can see how the strut citroen choosed to mount.Totally differend from c3 wrc

https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13924985_1766631550217926_6177198671284487723_n.jp g?oh=ff3ee1d2e4bdb09af954da6ea7d7ac7d&oe=58547214
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13939583_1766631570217924_5111848008927924655_n.jp g?oh=0f2686d876c875f5e30a2a99d4d6cec9&oe=5811A439
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13891953_1766631663551248_4188232755161239617_n.jp g?oh=94beff2e9b385442b689d4ac0ca5d75a&oe=5810F18F
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13932679_1766631450217936_3675629563905644774_n.jp g?oh=a016e0dbce11303bd1cfae0ab818824d&oe=58278B7C
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13920645_1766631300217951_2921717106643347756_n.jp g?oh=f135ba570a5dba88af9570c545f9a2c9&oe=58100EFD
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13892372_1766631283551286_334332196639170660_n.jpg ?oh=e66d647e1b3971c8e6f6fb405693173a&oe=58114827
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13876697_1766631356884612_8262200475340146650_n.jp g?oh=81e80290e00226c81429b949b2e2a489&oe=582184A9

more
https://www.facebook.com/grdphoto/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1766631246884623

[dimviii]

thats why fiesta mule wrc had a big opening in front of radiators at 2016 car were testing

http://www.largus.fr/images/images/ford-fiesta-001-1.jpg

[Mirek]

Finally I can see it from outside. I know it from inside but that's a bit irrelevant for WRC :)

[Simmi]

So am I right in thinking that the new Polo is going to incorporate the visual styling cues of the new '17 Polo road car, as well as the new wild WRC aero?

So many videos and images of these cars, but we really haven't seen anything definitive spec-wise yet apart from the Citroen.

[Andre Oliveira]

Today, Breen

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpLdB4oWIAA3aB4.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpLdB4pWcAA5tFJ.jpg

[Andre Oliveira]

And Khalid Al-Qassimi, last tuesday

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co3wbARWgAA3pjI.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co3v2NWXYAADzYu.jpg

[Simmi]

Surely the fact they have Breen back in the car again bodes well for next year.

Does anyone know whether Lefebvre has tested the C3?

[danon]

Breen -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuK8aLrOM8w

[TWRC]

Surely the fact they have Breen back in the car again bodes well for next year.

Does anyone know whether Lefebvre has tested the C3?
He tested it at least once (on Test#2).

[danon]

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13667951_10154015595238952_8932853882218561176_o.j pg

[N.O.T]

post photoshops in the correct thread.

[danon]

^ I said - Run your bike, not your mouth!

https://www.facebook.com/citroenracing/photos/pcb.10153863077787057/10153863076767057/?type=3&theater
https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13920464_10153863076767057_4588687309703775660_o.j pg
https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13920424_10153863076982057_1109863071497400776_o.j pg
https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13669505_10153863076752057_3786495466325897859_o.j pg

[danon]

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13908939_1767408416806906_8652678791575710753_o.jp g
https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13668730_1767408053473609_4689270440673221608_o.jp g
https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13938099_1767408350140246_6119011810409658630_o.jp g
https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/12593620_1767408283473586_5184131314834656860_o.jp g
https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13923324_1767408106806937_4617861331794560235_o.jp g
+ more "photoshops" @ https://www.facebook.com/grdphoto/

[jbmarcus21]

Hayden Paddon Test Days Deutschland Rallye 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcTvEyDTuqw&feature=youtu.be

[Grundo Farb]

Hayden Paddon Test Days Deutschland Rallye 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcTvEyDTuqw&feature=youtu.be

Great video. What car is it? The engine sounds different and the cabin air intake is in the middle of the roof but smaller than the 2015 one.

[dimviii]

Depping today
https://youtu.be/GK5yJZlPlQo

[kiil]

I think the 2017 cars speed really shows on tarmac, looks amazing.

[Mirek]

Depping today
https://youtu.be/GK5yJZlPlQo

There are several moments with massive understeering, quite strange to see that with an active car. Anyway Panzerplatte is very special and we don't have all the information to judge.

[danon]

YOU need to be active too... dear bohemian engineer.

[EightGear]

YOU need to be active too... dear bohemian engineer.
Whats your problem?

[dimviii]

YOU need to be active too... dear bohemian engineer.

please stop it.

[itix]

Whats your problem?
I assume he/she meant that the driver need to be active as well to not make it understeer, but the way it is written does make it come across as quite rude.

[EstWRC]

Neuville and Paddon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqMDqqivZ7U
Breen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuK8aLrOM8w

[seb_sh]

Depping today
https://youtu.be/GK5yJZlPlQo

nice video. not sure if it's because of the rough surface but the car didn't look as boring on tarmac as some of us are expecting.

[rallysupportnl]

VIDEO: Tarmac Test Volkswagen Polo R WRC 2017!

http://i66.tinypic.com/2qi8bki.jpg (https://youtu.be/T6AT0XzkJfE)

Click on the photo or here --> https://youtu.be/T6AT0XzkJfE

[dimviii]

nice video. not sure if it's because of the rough surface but the car didn't look as boring on tarmac as some of us are expecting.

seems its very slippery the surface.

[EstWRC]

Sordo is back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfQ6ZDKvalM&feature=youtu.be

[stefanvv]

nice video. not sure if it's because of the rough surface but the car didn't look as boring on tarmac as some of us are expecting.

How could a faster car be boring?

[Mirek]

Of course it can and very often it is. There are countless examples.

For example stock Evo IX is faster than Quattro S1. Which one do You prefer to watch?

[stefanvv]

You seem to compare cars with 20 years difference, what is the point? And who said Evo is boring?

[Mirek]

You seem to compare cars with 20 years difference, what is the point?

That one is more boring while being faster. Isn't that exactly what You wrote?


And who said Evo is boring?

Do You prefer stock Evo over S1?

[cali]

You seem to compare cars with 20 years difference, what is the point? And who said Evo is boring?
Evo's are boring to watch. Period.
Only few chosen ones can drive evo's flamboyant and fast.

Sent from my ONE E1003 using Tapatalk

[stefanvv]

That one is more boring while being faster. Isn't that exactly what You wrote?



Do You prefer stock Evo over S1?

I don't get Your point of '17 vs '16 rules. Of course I prefer S1, but it is with its time. In Evo IX times there could be much better than S1, but this is irrelevant.

[stefanvv]

Evo's are boring to watch. Period.
Only few chosen ones can drive evo's flamboyant and fast.

So it depends on the driver. Well, isn't it the same with the new wrc cars?

[cali]

So it depends on the driver. Well, isn't it the same with the new wrc cars?
Flamboyant usually is not fast.

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[stefanvv]

Flamboyant usually is not fast.

Sent from my ONE E1003 using Tapatalk

Usually...

[Mirek]

In Evo IX times there could be much better than S1, but this is irrelevant.

No, that's perfectly relevant because it's the principle question. Can boring car be faster? The answer is yes. Simple as that. It's irrelevant which years You put in to the equation.

That was just one example of many to illustrate the reality. This weekend there was a Formula Student race in Most including my Alma Mater and guess what - the fastest cars were painful to watch and impossible to listen as they were... electric.

Have You ever experienced the feeling when You watch the time and ralize that the thing which looks and sounds like a trolleybus has just done 0-100 km/h in 3,5 secs? That's so weird but it's good to realize that perception of speed is nothing but accurate.


So it depends on the driver. Well, isn't it the same with the new wrc cars?

Have You ever been to any WRC event? Have You ever watched PWRC after the WRC field? It's sooo huge difference that it hurts.

Also we had here in CZ a period of Evo cup - up to 50 Evos per event (really) but You could count the spectacular ones on fingers of one hand. In those days people stopped going to watch rallies and they started to return only with S2000 (very slowly at the beginning). One would say 50 Evos are worth watching but they were not.


Usually...

At least on apshalt it's nearly a rule.

[stefanvv]

No, that's perfectly relevant because it's the principle question. Can boring car be faster? The answer is yes. Simple as that. It's irrelevant which years You put in to the equation.

No it is irrelevant, because times and technology are different. We may enjoy Quattro times forever but the are gone, forever. You're mixing the contexts.


That was just one example of many to illustrate the reality. This weekend there was a Formula Student race in Most including my Alma Mater and guess what - the fastest cars were painful to watch and impossible to listen as they were... electric.

Here I can agree, electric cars are not exciting for a race, especially for a rally, but this is the reality isn't it? Petrol will disappear one day and it is dangerous for the ecology, it is just natural.


Have You ever been to any WRC event? Have You ever watched PWRC after the WRC field? It's sooo huge difference that it hurts

Actually no, but if You ask me whether I would watch Ostberg/Bertelli in wrc rather than Lukyanuk in Evo, guess what the answer is.


At least on apshalt it's nearly a rule.

I don't care about these rules. If there is a driver ho can make it spectacular (and fast) I would enjoy it.

After all do You really believe current starting order is making wrc more spectacular? It may sound irrelevant to the discussion, but isn't it the reality in what is good and what is not (for someone in particular).
As far as I understand You believe simpler cars (as in current) are more spectacular than car to do You half the job? Really?

[seb_sh]

just to add my 2c: speed is only a part of the equation; yes a fast car is better than a slow car, speed is impressive. However it also matters how that car behaves, if it is like on rails it's less spectacular than sliding and seeing tilting/rolling as it goes through a corner, leaving tyre marks on the road and other things like that. It's also a question of comparison, at the moment the WRC's are not that much faster than R5s to be impressive, they are noticeably faster but not impressively faster. For example the difference between early 2000s WRC and N4 was more impressive from several points of view.

About Evos and S1: Evos are boring on asphalt I think no one can argue; the ones that are not boring are in fact 'slow' but spectacular. The S1 due to it's technology level had it's peak performance at a place it was also spectacular. The noise, the acceleration, the body roll due to softer suspension compared to now and a bit of sliding made it spectacular to watch, unpredictable, almost out of control. Evos look like they are struggling on asphalt even if they are in fact, faster. That's the difference, how they make that speed.

It's a similar situation in F1 with the speed but also with the noise argument. Current F1 cars are very efficient and have a lot of power from electric motors. They are faster than GP2 or Porsche Supercup but at the track, in person, those (GP2 and PC) are sometimes more or at least equally spectacular to watch as the F1 cars. I'm not comparing F1 to WRC here i'm just saying how you get the speed is important to the perceived spectacle for the spectator.

[Mirek]

No it is irrelevant, because times and technology are different. We may enjoy Quattro times forever but the are gone, forever. You're mixing the contexts.

It's perfectly relevant. You can take plenty of other examples. Fast =/= spectacular and vice versa.


Here I can agree, electric cars are not exciting for a race, especially for a rally, but this is the reality isn't it?

Just like the pecpetion of speed and the fact that fast =/= spectacular.


Petrol will disappear one day and it is dangerous for the ecology, it is just natural.

That's obviously not the point.


Actually no, but if You ask me whether I would watch Ostberg/Bertelli in wrc rather than Lukyanuk in Evo, guess what the answer is.

Again You don't get the point. Do You prefer if Bertelli drives WRC or Evo? The driver is what is irrelevant when speaking about car. I don't know how to make You understand.


I don't care about these rules. If there is a driver ho can make it spectacular (and fast) I would enjoy it.

Again You don't understand and again same example. Would You prefer the same driver to drive Evo or WRC?


After all do You really believe current starting order is making wrc more spectacular? It may sound irrelevant to the discussion, but isn't it the reality in what is good and what is not.

You are right. It is irrelevant because we speak about cars.


As far as I understand You believe simpler cars (as in current) are more spectacular than car to do You half the job? Really?

No, You asked how can a faster car be less spectacular and I try again and again to explain that it can be and very often is.

[stefanvv]

just to add my 2c: speed is only a part of the equation; yes a fast car is better than a slow car, speed is impressive. However it also matters how that car behaves, if it is like on rails it's less spectacular than sliding and seeing tilting/rolling as it goes through a corner, leaving tyre marks on the road and other things like that. It's also a question of comparison, at the moment the WRC's are not that much faster than R5s to be impressive, they are noticeably faster but not impressively faster.

You know there is the difference in spectators thing. Some enjoy sideways, some enjoy speed, I'm from the latter. But You're right, when I was watching erc rally years ago, common people are more thrilled by some (stupid) sideway action by some driver, than the winner of the event.

[stefanvv]

.....

Mirek, when I watch Ogier driving current wrc car and testing '17 Polo I found more spectacular the latter, is it really surprising? I know there can be aspects of spectacular, but for a genuine rally fan, is it really the slower and simpler car what matters?

[Mirek]

Mirek, when I watch Ogier driving current wrc car and testing '17 Polo I found more spectacular the latter, is it really surprising? I know there can be aspects of spectacular, but for a genuine rally fan, is it really the slower and simpler car what matters?

Again and for the last time...


How could a faster car be boring?

I asnwered this statement and nothing else.

[stefanvv]

I asnwered this statement and nothing else.

Not for me, but for Yourself I'm fine with it.

[EstWRC]

Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mhcwXlOsdo

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I found watching Rally Finland that the WRC cars looked really small and meek (pardon the pun) after watching all the 2017 car tests...

[jbmarcus21]

Latvala testing today VW Polo Wrc 2017 in Germany tarmac


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucV7UEdCmoI&feature=youtu.be

[EstWRC]

Rubén Pérez@RubnPerez

Problems for Jari Matti Latvala in their test pre Germany of today. #WRC Has suffered an accident.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpbPJuxXEAAJbmt.jpg

[dimviii]

new rear aero for 2017 polo?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpa7BTLXEAA6HHy.jpg

[rallysupportnl]

Test Jari-Matti Latvala - WRC Rallye Deutschland 2016!

http://i65.tinypic.com/rsu0ll.jpg (https://youtu.be/gBaqhVB8SCY)

Click on the photo or here --> https://youtu.be/gBaqhVB8SCY

[EstWRC]

Latvala crash https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLVyRAt2cxbxtnkl7lBJTgIAbOkBB-YXW3&v=qpi5Ks6_aeU

[MotorsportManiac]

Some pix of 2017 Polo R WRC testing yesterday... ;)

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8778/28822105416_37b9e72cb7_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/KUUPN1)
VW Motorsport Test 08.08.2016 (https://flic.kr/p/KUUPN1) by Kevin Lamberti (https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevin_lamberti_photography/), auf Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7472/28235682344_e5395758d0_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/K26fDo)
VW Motorsport Test 08.08.2016 (https://flic.kr/p/K26fDo) by Kevin Lamberti (https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevin_lamberti_photography/), auf Flickr

https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8156/28235668734_018a6d45e1_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/K26bAJ)
VW Motorsport Test 08.08.2016 (https://flic.kr/p/K26bAJ) by Kevin Lamberti (https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevin_lamberti_photography/), auf Flickr

More HERE (https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevin_lamberti_photography/sets/72157669139220344)! :)

regards Kevin

[itix]

I actually agree with Stefan that the -17 cars look more spectacular. They are ugly as crap so far and I don't imagine Msport or Hyundai will change that... probably neither toyota nor VW after they get their new body shells, but from a standpoint of spectacularity they look to me to be an improvement so far.

I was very sceptical in the beginning, but I have changed my mind after seeing some testing videos. The real shame is that they allowed for more extreme outer dimensions, making the cars uglier. The internal changes seem all good and well so they could have kept the looks and gone for the bigger restrictor and active center diff...

[danon]

Whats your problem?

Global warming.

Yours?

[stefanvv]

I actually agree with Stefan that the -17 cars look more spectacular. They are ugly as crap so far and I don't imagine Msport or Hyundai will change that... probably neither toyota nor VW after they get their new body shells, but from a standpoint of spectacularity they look to me to be an improvement so far.

I was very sceptical in the beginning, but I have changed my mind after seeing some testing videos. The real shame is that they allowed for more extreme outer dimensions, making the cars uglier. The internal changes seem all good and well so they could have kept the looks and gone for the bigger restrictor and active center diff...

That's why they should move to bigger segment cars, but it is not beauty contest .Though I find them just aesthetic as current wrc. In case of Yaris even better.

[N.O.T]

Global warming.

Yours?

if you keep attacking members like that for no reason you are getting banned kid.

Be serious.

[danon]

if you keep attacking members like that for no reason you are getting banned kid.
Be serious.
You define personal opinion as "attaking"?!

Define this:

When is that fucking loser going to join his ladyboy friends in F1 ?

[N.O.T]

You define personal opinion as "attaking"?!

Define this:

difference is Capito is a fucking loser so i have every reason to attack him, now relax kid.

[Mintexmemory]

Ok - will everyone please wind their necks in. A forum is about debate, which will always result in difference of opinion. Can we just keep it civil. Otherwise mod sanctions (which I really don't want to do) will be applied.

[stefanvv]

Capito is a fucking loser

Since he is in VW I see him only winning, did I missed something?

[N.O.T]

Since he is in VW I see him only winning, did I missed something?

you miss a lot all the time, no time to go back now.

Look forward and take life as it is kid.

[Mintexmemory]

Since he is in VW I see him only winning, did I missed something?

It is possible to win by accomplishment of objectives - 3 consecutive manufacturers championships - but lose by the inappropriate image / attitude that is created. Capito has to learn to be a 'good' winner. Decrying the achievement of Kris Meeke in beating Latvala (at least) fair and square in Finland, is the act of someone who is graceless and borish. Previous statements this year have been unsporting to say the least. Add to this Capito's Power Stage proposal and you have a negative image created when it would be so easy to stay positive!

[rallysupportnl]

Test Dani Sordo - WRC Rallye Deutschland 2016!

http://i63.tinypic.com/o78y6p.jpg (https://youtu.be/3xNTgkf_2hM)

Click on the photo or here --> https://youtu.be/3xNTgkf_2hM

[SpeedEstRacing]

tests day tarmac - Dani Sordo - i20 wrc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUuJF76-QpI

and

tests day tarmac - Suarez - 208 R5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpFoNQ7vxw4

[dimviii]

Ogier
https://youtu.be/3l2qjz7t3Gg

https://youtu.be/VHG-6SunwgM

[b3637853]

Test Dani Sordo - WRC Rallye Deutschland 2016!

http://i63.tinypic.com/o78y6p.jpg (https://youtu.be/3xNTgkf_2hM)

Click on the photo or here --> https://youtu.be/3xNTgkf_2hM

Some really nice shots there. I wonder if those traffic cones just before the compression were there because of Sordo's back injury. Imagine taking this compression flat...

[tommeke_B]

Some really nice shots there. I wonder if those traffic cones just before the compression were there because of Sordo's back injury. Imagine taking this compression flat...

Well, usually there are such compressions in the rally too... ;)

[b3637853]

Well, usually there are such compressions in the rally too... ;)

Of course, so maybe Sordo was saving his back for the rally;)

[jbmarcus21]

WRC Back in tarmac ➡ http://goo.gl/HZwqtm

[jbmarcus21]

Skoda testing in Corsica this week with Lappi and Kopecky => http://goo.gl/c3TkAw

[SpeedEstRacing]

tests Teemu suninen - fabia r5 - adac rally deutschland 2016

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fskjmh7l7gs

[dimviii]

Tanak
https://youtu.be/HPoS4GJodEI

https://youtu.be/4-zNeC7CvD8

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzGmzZthbE0

man these roads are narrow!

[EstWRC]

one more of Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfYHkcV18rI

Camilli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFk2r-PlS8U

Ostberg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqKh-lUwzis

[dimviii]

Kopecky
https://youtu.be/osUq0hqGIdY


Lappi
https://youtu.be/pZb7yhSvlSw

[dimviii]

Mads and Tanak
https://youtu.be/09lkeVvBz5M

[GigiGalliNo1]

Talk of VW 2017 Car

https://rallyparadise.wordpress.com/2016/08/15/wrc-the-2017-world-rally-car-a-design-statement/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Francois-Xavier Demaison:
“It is very important for Volkswagen that we recognise the Polo, it’s the Polo we need to promote. We have a close relationship with our design department in Wolfsburg and every design we make in terms of aero is submitted to them to make sure it’s acceptable. It’s a Polo, we are marketing people and in the end we need to show and sell Polos.”

I wonder how many rally fans have bought a Polo because of VW's success with that model in WRC ?

[dimviii]

#WRC2017 @HMSGOfficial Tarmac Tests - i20 WRC 2017
BILLIOT Jérémie



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqh4c4GXEAA96Re.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqh4eBEW8AEIfjy.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqh4fJzWIAAcKH1.jpg

[Eli]

#WRC2017 @HMSGOfficial Tarmac Tests - i20 WRC 2017
BILLIOT Jérémie



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqh4c4GXEAA96Re.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqh4eBEW8AEIfjy.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqh4fJzWIAAcKH1.jpg
for now (imho) the best looking '17 car...has the looks of a Polo beater, hopefully it & it's drivers will deliver.

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk

[GravelBen]

Thats quite the large wing!

[Simmi]

Does anyone know how far along they are with this car? Are we looking at a mule similar to the Polo or something closer to the completed car?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqhvF6dWEAA1EMU.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqh8-RcWcAEmQzC.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqh86hqXYAE8wPc.jpg

[dimviii]

videos with c3 wrc engine at dyno
https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing?lang=el

[dimviii]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14067864_1051030981618714_5324011947200413360_o.jp g
https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14124520_1051030984952047_3805058647105496215_o.jp g

[Toyoda]

Suspension and overall car looks low slung compared to this years car, more like the VW, could be the setting but interesting when you consider the lateral grip issue and the current diff between Hyundai and VW shown in this Twiiter Q https://twitter.com/ma_ipp/status/767692482809327617

[jbmarcus21]

Yesterday, Hyundai debuts 1st test with new i20Wrc 2017 on tarmac, here you can watch my video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGpvRIorDqE

[tomhlord]

Yesterday, Hyundai debuts 1st test with new i20Wrc 2017 on tarmac, here you can watch my video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGpvRIorDqE

Great video. Looks very spectacular.

[sindroms]

Great video. Looks very spectacular.

Very aggressive braking. From what I saw in Germany WRC 2015 and Finland WRC 2016 seems to be Abbring trade mark...

[jbmarcus21]

yes speed and strong.. nice 2017 coming soon..
Then pictures from the test now => http://goo.gl/oD95nj

[dimviii]

yes speed and strong.. nice 2017 coming soon..
Then pictures from the test now => http://goo.gl/oD95nj


like the look of it.

[MartijnS]

Speed out of the corners looks really high.

[dimviii]

Speed out of the corners looks really high.

yes same as polo 2017 we ve seen from videos.

[aykutbilir]

michelin need to make new tyres for 2017 for sure


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[RICARDO75]

More videos from Hyundai i20 coupe WRC tests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc4g4u9Ps2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERZf_hxs8kk

[SpeedEstRacing]

tests day tarmac for Dani Sordo in new I20 WRC 2017:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNyd6eKU9tE

[itix]

I'm gone for a week and the whole rally world turns upside down!
Damn that Hyundai sounds angry!

EDIT: for me it seems they linger longer in the gears compared to today's car. Anyone else notice that? Shifts don't happen as rapidly as one might expect. Fewer gears and bigger ratio gaps?

[dimviii]

EDIT: for me it seems they linger longer in the gears compared to today's car. Anyone else notice that? Shifts don't happen as rapidly as one might expect. Fewer gears and bigger ratio gaps?

bigger restrictor allows more revving.

[itix]

True, but it should sound more like and angry wasp nest... it sounds about the same revs as today. No facts involved here, just my estimation!

[RICARDO75]

Another video from Dani Sordo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do7xF1TaWXU&feature=em-uploademail

[gorganl2000]

tests day tarmac for Dani Sordo in new I20 WRC 2017:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNyd6eKU9tE

from the vids, the car seems rather decent on asphalt in a proper tarmac driver's hands

[Zeakiwi]

from the vids, the car seems rather decent on asphalt in a proper tarmac driver's hands

The i20 2017 wrc seemed to be flatter over the bumps with Sordo driving. There are 3 different gear shift speed settings on the current i20 wrc, would guess the 2017 is similar.

[dimviii]

like the way it looks.Hope its up to top level,to see proper fights.

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14047368_1138137926259678_6065765371925263038_o.jp g
https://scontent.fath3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14063785_1138146382925499_4514401679595681429_n.jp g?oh=6ea21c1f4997ba3398757a69c2bf23b1&oe=5858211B
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14053827_1138137789593025_1121856886769060751_o.jp g
https://scontent.fath3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13892032_1138146496258821_1519998497890578413_n.jp g?oh=cff9b28ec76d8786303d192ab6756151&oe=5853ED19

[dimviii]

have i told you that i like it?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqtpx-uXgAARvzS.jpg

[SubaruNorway]

The i20 2017 wrc seemed to be flatter over the bumps with Sordo driving. There are 3 different gear shift speed settings on the current i20 wrc, would guess the 2017 is similar.

Why would you want to slow down the gear shift?

[J_n_z]

It has no diffuser and has some winglets on front wheel arches. Also no "flour width extensions", little big ground clearance. All in all pretty basic aerodynamics compared to other three.

[nafpaktos]

Yesterday, Hyundai debuts 1st test with new i20Wrc 2017 on tarmac, here you can watch my video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGpvRIorDqE

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR toyota!!!!!!!!!!i'm really sorry for them in advance!!

[EstWRC]

damn this is one sexy machine!

[Toyoda]

Personally it looks to be pretty basic, VW looks better over the bumps and seems to accelerate through the gears quicker (shorter ratio?) and all three other manufacturers seem to have more innovative aero packages. Obviously im just speculating from videos which is a waste of time, but still fun :)

[pantealex]

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR toyota!!!!!!!!!!i'm really sorry for them in advance!!

Have you seen any tarmac videos from Toyota ?

I think no one this forum has, so how could you compare ?

[EstWRC]

more Hyundai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14-UsoxUWLk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRSCaHZ3U_I

[Roy]

Have you seen any tarmac videos from Toyota ?

I think no one this forum has, so how could you compare ?

Test Toyota Yaris WRC 2017 Galbusera Achille (tarmac) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvhdob3nYNA upload in may 2016

[EstWRC]

lol....delete it before N.O.T comes and eats you alive...

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=154&v=GES3rmZXyHk

[GigiGalliNo1]

Am I right to say that Neuville hasn't tested the new i20 WRCar yet... Is that saying something?

He hasn't secured a contract and its up in the air. He gets to push the start button on the test car once he signs eh....? (!)

[Francis44]

I think he must be so convinced that he will leave that he doesn't car about the car, might be overestimating other teams interest in him though.

[dimviii]

Paddons turn
https://youtu.be/9lbvfjF1IXg

[GravelBen]

Am I right to say that Neuville hasn't tested the new i20 WRCar yet... Is that saying something?

He hasn't secured a contract and its up in the air. He gets to push the start button on the test car once he signs eh....? (!)

Yes, I think thats the situation - they don't want to give a driver seat time in the new car if that driver isn't committed to the team and might leave and take the inside knowledge to a competitor. I don't think Sordo drove it until his contract was signed either.

[jbmarcus21]

Yesterday i was to Hayden Paddon 1st test i20Wrc 2017 on tarmac.. here my video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RYQclC0UmA

[nafpaktos]

better drive from the other hyundai drivers i think!!!

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/ze.gonzo.5

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14068232_1406567109371452_6750743824719244739_n.jp g?oh=bfc9c864607639538de1d096167cc5af&oe=58581BCE
https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14102173_1406567176038112_3654465021462049864_n.jp g?oh=8997f1c9c4e7fa640b6e2df1e6a45b83&oe=58565F54
https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14034729_1406567409371422_6211155423988257629_n.jp g?oh=b06e2a6566e84c6f78e88bd87f60c738&oe=585CD068

[Hartusvuori]

I think he must be so convinced that he will leave that he doesn't car about the car, might be overestimating other teams interest in him though.

Neuville does not decide whether he tests the new car or not. The team does. And the team has decided not to put Neuville in the car.

[EstWRC]

it seems that he is going to F1 next year :p

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cq43oxcWYAAKdJZ.jpg

[AdvEvo]

it seems that he is going to F1 next year :p

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cq43oxcWYAAKdJZ.jpg

Both Redbull cans filled with water:)

No way an F1 driver or a WRC driver drinks poison.

[EstWRC]

Camilli testing the new Fiesta https://twitter.com/lluis6/status/770246692314677248

[dimviii]

a bigger photo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrB3LPiXgAAcfLQ.jpg

[Mirek]

Forced brake cooling also on rear axle. Any idea about the damper supplier?

Otherwise no principal changes visible compared to curent cars, or? I mean not something a bit bigger or smaller but something completely different.

[EstWRC]

i understand that this current one is new just from the inside.

a little clip too https://twitter.com/lluis6/status/770255847729598465

[AL14]

Citroen is going to test its car from tomorrow till september the 1st in the streets of Liguria (not far from Sanremo).

If I knew it in advance I would have been back a couple of days later :(

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrCLvtKW8AIArlf.jpg

[Andre Oliveira]

Camilli video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE0ckn_YRI8

[Andre Oliveira]

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14199478_1441847942511295_2537057983313943941_n.jp g?oh=9e08b2c91f6bdc22adedd52be368adb3&oe=585AEBAB
https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14089058_1441847892511300_2227326320744256114_n.jp g?oh=1ef38004cf09e3e81b84d840483ca676&oe=583CA51A
https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14183916_1441847999177956_1825884488039843790_n.jp g?oh=12a8fec6cf3e865d0bb04a993f228b07&oe=58854895

[dimviii]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14192105_10154076469943952_7503799735556436965_n.j pg?oh=cb04d02c206d45d65c52bc58d4626aa8&oe=58418F4F

[Mirek]

Air-intake for rear brakes, isn't it?

[dimviii]

probably yes,even we dont see where is the end of the hose.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrCb6RXWcAId-jc.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrCb-ytXgAE1ePo.jpg

[Fabian Gaukler]

Some review footage from the WRC2 test from 15th August in the vineyards of Neumagen and Veldenz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apMnQ1bGxrM

[br21]

dampers in Fiesta are Reigers. Rear brake cooling ducts are quite important, all fiesta 4wd rally cars had problems with rear brakes cooling, especially on gravel. Judging on how mechanics look like on pictures it was busy for them:)

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_08_2016/post-177-0-61357300-1472499504.jpg
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_08_2016/post-177-0-12626600-1472499520.jpg
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14068179_1780732418836996_9105434491394137383_n.jp g?oh=0438723bc5ec7d92e41fec6b2394207a&oe=583C10BE
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/l/t1.0-9/14199157_1780731798837058_956591547517728840_n.jpg ?oh=efc7aac148560d0dc024051ffb41956f&oe=58454051
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14102669_1780731718837066_8206969680677835423_n.jp g?oh=fb4d389e697053db2241b8d02dead2f4&oe=5885720F
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14095718_1780731902170381_169161422300221000_n.jpg ?oh=302dabc49992d3cc462867854d2e4eea&oe=583F37E9
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14184310_1780732655503639_4904082107067697605_n.jp g?oh=39597bcfb986e5831f8aa6cd611e2617&oe=583A799D
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14199355_1780732128837025_1381175391533478446_n.jp g?oh=0e577a9e8f2348f6b3488443833d10a2&oe=58474C38

https://www.facebook.com/MForn.Studio/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1780731535503751

[TWRC]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_08_2016/post-177-0-61357300-1472499504.jpg
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_08_2016/post-177-0-12626600-1472499520.jpg
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14068179_1780732418836996_9105434491394137383_n.jp g?oh=0438723bc5ec7d92e41fec6b2394207a&oe=583C10BE
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/l/t1.0-9/14199157_1780731798837058_956591547517728840_n.jpg ?oh=efc7aac148560d0dc024051ffb41956f&oe=58454051
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14102669_1780731718837066_8206969680677835423_n.jp g?oh=fb4d389e697053db2241b8d02dead2f4&oe=5885720F
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14095718_1780731902170381_169161422300221000_n.jpg ?oh=302dabc49992d3cc462867854d2e4eea&oe=583F37E9
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14184310_1780732655503639_4904082107067697605_n.jp g?oh=39597bcfb986e5831f8aa6cd611e2617&oe=583A799D
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14199355_1780732128837025_1381175391533478446_n.jp g?oh=0e577a9e8f2348f6b3488443833d10a2&oe=58474C38

https://www.facebook.com/MForn.Studio/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1780731535503751
Hm, looks like they also went down the VW/Skoda route regarding the rear damper position. Now I wonder whether Hyundai is using something new too, or they kept the "French" approach?

[AMSS]

Hm, looks like they also went down the VW/Skoda route regarding the rear damper position. Now I wonder whether Hyundai is using something new too, or they kept the "French" approach?

At least based on the pictures I`ve seen it looks like Hyundai still have the straight on top of driveshafts damper position. But I haven`t seen a clear picture of the wheelhouse without wheels yet

[jbmarcus21]

Test6 for Citroen in tarmac Italy with new C3Wrc 2017 => http://goo.gl/zWXzUN

[dimviii]

Meeke

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrHylslWAAAVtbn.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrHyoeaWYAEKPft.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrHyrSPW8AAVEjI.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrHytzmXEAENhYj.jpg
https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14088671_1116782971734459_217182903601596551_n.jpg ?oh=73a2123985e91fe0ca087c059108a108&oe=5839389B

[dimviii]

small video with Meeke
https://twitter.com/Traxx_WiF/media?lang=el

[dimviii]

bigger video
https://youtu.be/_x7gWzvtGyw

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Eric Camilli:
First tests with the 2017 Ford WRC ...
We discovered it and it's...impressive !

https://twitter.com/EricCamilli/status/770652364948795392

[dimviii]

Paddon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpKDM33nk7o

[chris_bakelas]

bigger video
https://youtu.be/_x7gWzvtGyw
Maybe the engine not at full power?

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[dimviii]

Maybe the engine not at full power?

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I dont know about the power,but driver doesnt pushing.First day at tarmac,probably they have plenty things for monitoring.

[EstWRC]

When will Toyota begin testing on tarmac? Was it September?

[pantealex]

When will Toyota begin testing on tarmac? Was it September?

about 4 months ago...

[EstWRC]

really? with the current modification car? i remember i read somewhere that they will start in september but then im wrong.

[pantealex]

really? with the current modification car? i remember i read somewhere that they will start in september but then im wrong.

You know that they have 3 cars. As said before, there are only test pics of #1 and #2. They also did some snow testing before they started in gravel. That all should not be surprise to anyone.

[EstWRC]

Okay, didnt know about the snow testing.

[AL14]

rally.it is at Citroen C3 testing in the streets of Sanremo.
Here a little clip

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJxN7ndhDTG/?taken-by=rally.it

[pantealex]

VW is now testing with 2017 at Jämsä, Finland

[AL14]

Rallyper why you liked pantealex post and not mine which was the same? Damn nordic guys. :D :D

[AL14]

Some closer look to Citroen wrc plus, probably the closest one so far.

http://i.imgur.com/AWgP4Sc.png

http://imgur.com/McRYB6M.png

http://i.imgur.com/R4nvZBq.png

[Rallyper]

Rallyper why you liked pantealex post and not mine which was the same? Damn nordic guys. :D :D

Sorry. I didn´t read your post about VW testing in Jämsä. Besides I know Pantealex privately. ;)

[AL14]

Sorry. I didn´t read your post about VW testing in Jämsä. Besides I know Pantealex privately. ;)

just kidding ;)

[dimviii]

Tanak testing 2017 fiesta failed.Interesting that he is testing 2017 fiesta.
https://youtu.be/NLGcMcPG28Q

[BicioWrc]

not a good start; also fact he is testing 2017 car could be a signal he will remain in M-sport....also if in real as we know he didn't sign nothing, so could be also m-sport is doing a different politic from hyundai, permitting to test new car to all actual drivers. soon we will discover the true:)

[Mirek]

Some closer look to Citroen wrc plus, probably the closest one so far.

Clearly visible different airflow and cooling strategy at the rear axle than M-Sport.

[stefanvv]

Tanak testing 2017 fiesta failed.Interesting that he is testing 2017 fiesta.
https://youtu.be/NLGcMcPG28Q

engine?!?

[EstWRC]

Tanak testing 2017 fiesta failed.Interesting that he is testing 2017 fiesta.
https://youtu.be/NLGcMcPG28Q

m-sport it is for Tänak then next year.

[seb_sh]

Maybe Tanak + Camilli + DMACK for M-Sport main team next year (just spouting nonsense :P)

[EstWRC]

no, as you can see Tänak was testing with Michelin's.

such a shame, i hoped mainly for Hyundai and then Toyota but it seems it didnt work out but maybe it was better? who knows, future will show.

[BicioWrc]

no, as you can see Tänak was testing with Michelin's.

such a shame, i hoped mainly for Hyundai and then Toyota but it seems it didnt work out but maybe it was better? who knows, future will show.

we will see EstWRC, if example in the next days car 2017 will be tested also from Ostberg and maybe Evans could be sign that nothing is again decide about Ott future...also consider his stocks were rising in last races i don't think him and his manager (markko Martin right?) will go to sign soon with m-sport,before to test market and possibility in hyundai or toyota.....knowing also m-sport often decide drivers for following season in last months of the year.

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaX5MDgQ2Z4

[dimviii]

c3 wrc asphalt day2
https://youtu.be/_PmODjaIWp0

[chris_bakelas]

Another one with c3!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=DaBZKSEQw9o

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[AL14]

C3 again (and a bit of DS3 also on same street)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A7EnlL59lA

[rp]

Sordo in Spain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_zGkZP2W5M

[dimviii]

now things complicated...


Juampemola
‏@juampemola


3° día de test hyundai @HMSGOfficial el turno de @thierryneuville @nicolasgilsoul #wrc

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrQ82MqVYAACZbQ.jpg

[N.O.T]

C3 again (and a bit of DS3 also on same street)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A7EnlL59lA

The start of the video gave me a seizure, thank you satan.

[AL14]

The start of the video gave me a seizure, thank you satan.

lol you came in my mind when I saw it.
I hope you feel better now.
Here take this as apology

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13879261_1222966301055954_7221030392396994487_n.jp g?oh=046c46d7df10ba33d61c6790b2af98e6&oe=5819B5AA

[AL14]

C3 testing again today short clip

https://www.facebook.com/www.Rally.it/videos/10153294454002614/

[Grundo Farb]

now things complicated...


Juampemola
‏@juampemola


3° día de test hyundai @HMSGOfficial el turno de @thierryneuville @nicolasgilsoul #wrc

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrQ82MqVYAACZbQ.jpg

Why do you say things are complicated? Neuville is testing for Corsica and Spain same as Paddon and Sordo isn't he?

[rage82]

Why do you say things are complicated? Neuville is testing for Corsica and Spain same as Paddon and Sordo isn't he?

Yes, I also think that's the 2016 car and not the new one.

[dimviii]

Why do you say things are complicated? Neuville is testing for Corsica and Spain same as Paddon and Sordo isn't he?

by mistake i thought that its the 2017 car. Thank you.

[dimviii]

Sordo,Neuville,Paddon
https://youtu.be/D8vfpLGztoQ

[dimviii]

Neuville
https://youtu.be/KNmzLQwe5xo

[AL14]

Today Breen is testing Citroen C3 in same area as Meeke yesterday. Some short clip coming soon.

[AL14]

And here it a short clip of Breen's test.

N.O.T you would never guess in what kind of street section it has been taken.

Enjoy: https://www.facebook.com/www.Rally.it/videos/10153296456807614/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrW0pEfWAAA9L0x.jpg:large

[EstWRC]

Citroen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-HIDCNwU_s
Camilli/Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orKvCT2SZ7M

[dimviii]

Citroen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-HIDCNwU_s


havent watch a video from c3 at asphalt that i like it.

[dimviii]

new rear design
at Finland test

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrW6H5GXgAAEZrx.jpg:large

[chris_bakelas]

New video from c3. Until now the best video!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=cJsuVc_s-SU

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[AL14]

Some friends were there and they were astonished by the speed of the car.
Can't wait to Monte where I will be able to watch them live. I think maybe our previous fears about having rather boring cars were a bit exagerrated.

[pino]

I was there, and everything was amazing about it, the car, the sound, the speed and the stage !!!

[pino]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160904/535005ebae5865647344b4ab4e0cc1d5.jpg

[pino]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160904/842770af5a71f7c0b367ffa1aa643c22.jpg

[pino]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160904/8f419dc93fe6655d1ad76bb3e7813ddc.jpg

[pino]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160904/c9b9ce6380057a710e5afc1e3e2f98a0.jpg

[pino]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160904/b488baec0c952709ebe5f5fe125b34f5.jpg

[pino]

Video to follow...

[pino]

https://youtu.be/faQoPUzRmqU

[pino]

https://youtu.be/rbYq42jRM8I

[pino]

https://youtu.be/n1YMkqwQESA

[pino]

All videos taken by my nephew Andrea :D

[Rallyper]

Welcome back Pino. Long time since last, eh?

[pino]

Welcome back Pino. Long time since last, eh?

Thanks mate, although I've always been here, just invisible :p