WRC Testing

[car]

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superb yet again!

[N.O.T]

amazing picture, pity that car spoils the scenery.

[AL14]

I actually like it. Maybe too much post production but the subject is cool.

[itix]

VW testing in north of Portugal.


http://s32.postimg.org/5csz9yf11/13164316_614904762016710_2720549697635562020_n.jpg
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Grönholm is co-driving a Labrador :o

[dimviii]

citroen new clip with 2017 car
https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing?lang=el

[devil's land]

Today Paddon in Fafe.


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[Kielder]

I've been today at Ogier & Ingrassia's test. I've arrived 45' before it ended, so I could only see the last eight runs. I can't say anything about them you already don't know, so I only put here some pics:

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee510/OAnibal/DSC03169_zpsit4lvari.jpg (http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/OAnibal/media/DSC03169_zpsit4lvari.jpg.html)
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee510/OAnibal/DSC03208_zps0gr07fie.jpg (http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/OAnibal/media/DSC03208_zps0gr07fie.jpg.html)
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee510/OAnibal/DSC03218_zpsyhfkncki.jpg (http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/OAnibal/media/DSC03218_zpsyhfkncki.jpg.html)
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee510/OAnibal/DSC03244_zpses1saa6m.jpg (http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/OAnibal/media/DSC03244_zpses1saa6m.jpg.html)
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee510/OAnibal/DSC03249_zpsovslgx4e.jpg (http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/OAnibal/media/DSC03249_zpsovslgx4e.jpg.html)

By the way, I've read somewhere that today Gronholm and/or Latvala were testing in the morning. However, I'm sure that Ogier has been testing during the whole day.

[Simmi]

What was the sound like compared to the current Polo Kielder? Much different? Obviously we have all the videos but I am interested to hear from someone who was there and heard it in person.

[dimviii]

I've been today at Ogier & Ingrassia's test. I've arrived 45' before it ended, so I could only see the last eight runs. I can't say anything about them you already don't know, so I only put here some pics:


so you missed these amazing passes?

https://youtu.be/Hqlgth297FQ

[dimviii]

Paddon at Portugal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHX0enrdezg

[stefanvv]

Now '17 car seems fast

[dimviii]

small clip with Ogier
https://twitter.com/franborbon

[Kielder]

What was the sound like compared to the current Polo Kielder? Much different?

I couldn't find much difference, though I wasn't at any fast zone due to arriving late. Asking a friend who arrived earlier and was watching the car at a very fast zone, he told me that mainly its exhaust pipe sounds stronger. To me, the most important is that the car looks faster and more agressive reaching bends as well as steering out of them.
On the other hand, I posted a pair of photos by mistake. I'm not going to delete them now hoping my prestige as photographer stays undamaged:), but I post the other two here:

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee510/OAnibal/DSC03210_zpsgekojlin.jpg (http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/OAnibal/media/DSC03210_zpsgekojlin.jpg.html)
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee510/OAnibal/DSC03183_zps4mumbnob.jpg (http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/OAnibal/media/DSC03183_zps4mumbnob.jpg.html)

[Kielder]

What was the sound like compared to the current Polo Kielder? Much different? Obviously we have all the videos but I am interested to hear from someone who was there and heard it in person.

Yeah, I see now that you edited your post to add the last part. I'd understood you that way too:).


so you missed these amazing passes?

https://youtu.be/Hqlgth297FQ

It looks like half of Galicia was there today... ;) Those guys always record good stuff. I've been at some of those spots, not at the fastest ones.

[dimviii]

Now '17 car seems fast

proper driver.

[Kielder]

I can't finish these comments without saying that the last time I'd been at the end of Arcos-Portela stage was in the 90's, watching for example Colin & Sainz with Subaru and Juha and Aurioul driving their Toyota. That's really the unforgettable sound and the memories that will last a life time. Many images came into my mind being there, I could feel the past in my skin.
Well, the Group B era, I know, but I didn't live it.

[stefanvv]

proper driver.

Really? wow, I wondered how the fia will bring the show, and this seems to be the answer....

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuNN-Q7Pns8

[dimviii]

Latvala today testing 2017 polo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiWQbbIWwAAWd-3.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiWQasBXAAQCnYa.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiWQczyWsAAKPdc.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiWQdYLWsAEjAGj.jpg

[N.O.T]

in that first picture the front looks exactly like the audi s1

[Kielder]

Talking about the sound...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATFMEVVFER8

[TWRC]

Citroën test#2 report: http://www.citroenracing.com/en/2016/news/wrc-news/69953/citroen-racing-continues-development-of-its-2017-world-rally-in-portugal/
I'm curious if they will bring in other guys (like Sarrazin) to test the car other than who they have under their umbrella now.

[dimviii]

Citroën test#2 report: http://www.citroenracing.com/en/2016/news/wrc-news/69953/citroen-racing-continues-development-of-its-2017-world-rally-in-portugal/
I'm curious if they will bring in other guys (like Sarrazin) to test the car other than who they have under their umbrella now.

so this is the 1st car from citroen sport that isnt designed from Xavier Mestelan-Pinon.
Waiting to see if Laurent Fregosi will be a succesfull replacer.

[Kielder]

Really foggy conditions during Mikkelsen's test this morning at the end of old Santa Luzia stage. He could drive only a few runs under clear view. In fact, his test was cancelled about three hours before what it was scheduled.

http://i67.tinypic.com/iwjked.jpg
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On the other hand, today I could spend several hours there and watch more runs than on Thursday. Yeah, the sound is that strong. The acceleration is much more exciting when it starts. It's very impressive when the car accelerates on a straightaway because you can feel it still close while it goes away.

[dimviii]

till now the only visible difference from old cars ive noticed is acceleration from standstill.Its way more fast.

[EstWRC]

Meeke for Portugal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHSosXYIBbw&feature=youtu.be

[danon]

Citroën Racing testaba esta semana el C3 WRC(en desarrollo) sobre tierra al sur de Portugal, en Tavira.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CihGSteXAAAlegT.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CihGRvYXEAAmUqk.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CihGSj9XAAAojdt.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CihGSvnXIAAqcPb.jpg

[Kielder]

Some friends of mine were watching Meeke today in Mondim de Basto. I was said that he was pushing really hard. Some photos I've receibed or these ones done by Fabio Leite probe it:

http://i68.tinypic.com/2u4ower.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/oi68nr.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/r9hgz4.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/SraDaGracaMondim/?pnref=story

[itix]

Meeke for Portugal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHSosXYIBbw&feature=youtu.be
Damn that is a high ride height setting. Guess they are testing for ruts or rough ground

[itix]

Some friends of mine were watching Meeke today in Mondim de Basto. I was said that he was pushing really hard. Some photos I've receibed or these ones done by Fabio Leite probe it:

http://i68.tinypic.com/2u4ower.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/oi68nr.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/r9hgz4.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/SraDaGracaMondim/?pnref=story
Man those are good shots

[dimviii]

Kopecky testing at Fafe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAecLYuiuEE

[Kielder]

A pair of longer videos of Meeke and Lefebvre testing the C3 WRC 2017. The end of the first one will surprise you :)

https://vimeo.com/166687670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljSB4_EYMZk

[noel157]

Some friends of mine were watching Meeke today in Mondim de Basto. I was said that he was pushing really hard. Some photos I've receibed or these ones done by Fabio Leite probe it:

http://i68.tinypic.com/2u4ower.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/oi68nr.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/r9hgz4.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/SraDaGracaMondim/?pnref=story

Was going very hard, another video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=205&v=eQdcbFWn6Bk

[seb_sh]

A pair of longer videos of Meeke and Lefebvre testing the C3 WRC 2017. The end of the first one will surprise you :)

https://vimeo.com/166687670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljSB4_EYMZk

Watching more and more videos of the 2017 cars, so far at least they don't seem as on rails as people were fearing. In fact the extra power may allow a more slidey style than current cars.

[TWRC]

A pair of longer videos of Meeke and Lefebvre testing the C3 WRC 2017. The end of the first one will surprise you :)

https://vimeo.com/166687670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljSB4_EYMZk
The rear suspension layout is interesting, damper-vise looks like more or less the same as the current Polo. Initially I thought they'd go for something creative on the front as well given the layout on the C-Elysée, but I was wrong (again :D).

[Mirek]

Watching more and more videos of the 2017 cars, so far at least they don't seem as on rails as people were fearing. In fact the extra power may allow a more slidey style than current cars.

That concern was mainly about asphalt and some Polo testing videos support it.

[seb_sh]

That concern was mainly about asphalt and some Polo testing videos support it.

I was fearing the same could happen for gravel. But yeah on asphalt the cars are closer to circuit racers now. Maybe they should change the tyre rules and/or impose minimum ride height and maximum suspension stiffness.

[dimviii]

we have to think that center active diff will not be setup 100% yet(about the how sideways 2017 will be)

citroen video
https://youtu.be/H70hT5OcA6U

[Mirek]

Maybe they should change the tyre rules and/or impose minimum ride height and maximum suspension stiffness.

Sorry but that makes no sense in the situation when they introduced advanced aero packages, wider track and active center diffs which all go hard against any sliding.

Actually I don't understand the rules at all. What is the point of having a super fast boring cars. I am also quite sure that these cars will be definitely more dangerous than current ones mainly due to a lot higher cornering speed and high dependance on the aerodynamic downforce.

[danon]

https://scontent.fsof2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13248390_623395254483585_7007251806582363574_o.jpg
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https://scontent.fsof2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13198639_623394954483615_1295703710164824533_o.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/rally74r/photos/a.623322811157496.1073746600.126198190869963/623322911157486/?type=3&theater

[dimviii]

c3 seems to have longer suspension travel from ds3.Dont remember to have see so much travel at any ds3 photos.

[Mirek]

The wider track of 2017 cars shall help to achieve bigger suspension travel for all teams since the main limiting factor (as per words of VW designers) is the reliably useful angular range of the driveshaft joints.

[janvanvurpa]

Ever since the cars have gone to long travel suspension I have wondered repeatedly just how much travel they actually have. (since I pay the rent making among other things suspension).
Early 1990s it was around 200mm travel.. Mid 90s I have some Group A Lancia front inserts and they were 225mm...

Most of what I make is 200-210mm...

Clearly the really long arms and the gentler arc they make allows the CVs to be less stressed but I really still cannot find any real published number for the travel...

Does anybody really know?

And Latvala breaking things... Well some people just break things..
I had a friend who did the same events I did in '77 and 79 doing International moto-cross mostly in France but also Suisse and Belgie and he was just a bit faster and just a bit heavier but same bikes and same wheels...and same suspension--about 310mm back, 300mm front..and he broke or collapsed wheels frequently, while I would do a check occasionally but could do 2 seasons without any worries or thoughts.. KTM and Husqvarna had good wheels,:love:..
But he's break them..

[dimviii]

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Does anybody really know?


maybe br21 can help us with recent r5 travel at gravel and asphalt.

[AMSS]

Focus WRC -06 had 280mm travel rear and 300mm front(with rough rally option +20mm)travel. This is damper travel not wheel travel.Current WRC Fiesta is very close though I don`t know exact figures, R5 Fiesta has slightly less travel than WRC.
New C3 has dampers situated like VW, Skoda and Ford next to driveshafts not on top which allows more travel. As has TMR Toyota(TMG Toyota had as Hyundai and DS3)

[dimviii]

Hanninen at Spain testing Yaris(5th day)

https://youtu.be/1FmqSpbuUiA

[Mirek]

Now it finally looks and sounds like WRC should.

[dimviii]

no lunch control and antilag though yet.

[Mirek]

Do we know exact regulations? Not saying it's the case but it would be interesting to know if they can use electric turbo to completely avoid ALS.

[makinen_fan]

Do we know exact regulations? Not saying it's the case but it would be interesting to know if they can use electric turbo to completely avoid ALS.

2017 regulations say the following:

The turbocharger must be single turbocharger, with single stage compression and expansion, and must not have variable pitch or variable geometry.

I guess the electric turbo count as a second turbo, so not allowed.

[Mirek]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that the electric turbos used in the F1 or Le Mans are actually normal exhaust-driven turbos where only the initial rotation is made by the electric motor to remove the lag, i.e. it's only a kind of electric ALS. Do I undertsand it right?

[itix]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that the electric turbos used in the F1 or Le Mans are actually normal exhaust-driven turbos where only the initial rotation is made by the electric motor to remove the lag, i.e. it's only a kind of electric ALS. Do I undertsand it right?
Yeah you are. It is a motor generation unit (called MGU) that can be used both for PTO and PTI). It is used a bit complexely like spooling up turbo and it is rumored that it is also used in overtake situations to boost the turbo further... Not sure whether this is true or not though

[itix]

Also the gearbox is coupled to such a unit and it has the same properties only bigger size

[makinen_fan]

TBH I was not familiar with technology around e-turbos. After looking it up it seems you are indeed right. The electric motor turns the turbo when you fo from off to on throttle. It would be interesting to know the power consumption of such an electric motor, I dont believe they can be driven from normal battery. They seem to store energy in a super-capacitor when you go off throttle, i.e. doing partly the work of a wastegate. For WRC max voltage allowed is 16v.

On another note, only a list of FIA approved turbos are allowed, all from Garrett.

See your PM

[Mirek]

Thanks, it's clear now that they can't use them.

[dimviii]

Sordo testing at Sardegna
https://www.facebook.com/DanielSordo/photos/a.157566857593173.38423.155581457791713/1323032451046602/?type=3

[dimviii]

Neuville pre Sardegna test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGF0s_bF7OU

[dimviii]

Sordo testing for Sardegna
https://youtu.be/8Mt7owNeHC0

[Eli]

https://vimeo.com/166687670 know it's test 2 from portugal but this C3 looks the part and looks like a Polo beater:)

[Simmi]

Should we be reading anything into the fact that Lappi is testing the EVEN/Printsport Fabia R5 today? Maybe just an additional bit of seat time that wasn't scheduled with the factory?

https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/737665197704413184?lang=en

[dimviii]

Gronholm testing polo 2017

https://twitter.com/Traxx_WiF/media

[pantealex]

Should we be reading anything into the fact that Lappi is testing the EVEN/Printsport Fabia R5 today? Maybe just an additional bit of seat time that wasn't scheduled with the factory?

https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/737665197704413184?lang=en

Probably also helping OC Veiby with gravel setup. (Veiby driving 11.6 Enset-rally, Finland)

[giu canbera]

Guys, does anybody knows the location (name please) of that beautiful Water Splash in Argentina? I really want to make a trip to watch WRC for the first time on that place!

[giu canbera]

984
THIS water splash in argentina.. Maybe SS15? Does anybody knows the name of that location?
Cheers

[jbmarcus21]

Marcus testing today new Polo Wrc 2017 in Sardegna
full gallery photos => http://goo.gl/IEjQ4p

[dimviii]

different front bumper at these tests.

[jbmarcus21]

Msport also in test for Sardegna with Ostberg http://goo.gl/uqLt3P

[Zeakiwi]

984
THIS water splash in argentina.. Maybe SS15? Does anybody knows the name of that location?
Cheers

Santa Rosa de Calmuchita- San Agustin has 9 water splashes? Same road has been used in Dakar? You might need to go through the long video highlights, the short video highlights do not appear to cover that water splash.
http://www.redbull.com/nz/en/motorsports/offroad/stories/1331790939117/wrc-rally-argentina-2016-best-images-photogallery (might be this 3rd photo down)

[danon]

different front bumper at these tests.

the bumper...

DAY TEST - Ogier - POLO WRC 2017 Sardegna - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0fY6exVwtA&feature=youtu.be

[itix]

the bumper...

DAY TEST - Ogier - POLO WRC 2017 Sardegna - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0fY6exVwtA&feature=youtu.be
Looks tons better with that bumper... Also who's surprised they broke the first one?

[seb_sh]

Looks tons better with that bumper... Also who's surprised they broke the first one?

In the 2nd part of the video I think he's in the current car not the 2017 version. It was a mixed test for Sardinia and the new car.

[dimviii]

Camilli testing at Sardegna
https://youtu.be/DGWNQFA5kR4

[itix]

In the 2nd part of the video I think he's in the current car not the 2017 version. It was a mixed test for Sardinia and the new car.
Ah yes, could be!

[EstWRC]

Toyota with Nikara and Mäkinen in finland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqIQiK6F-4s

[dimviii]

maybe on my top 5 photos
Meeke testing new c3

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_06_2016/post-177-0-95833300-1465218407.jpg

[stefanvv]

This is very Nose End First:D

[gorganl2000]

that picture brings novikov to my mind...lol

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke's quote with this:

'I get asked a lot if testing is boring.. ' https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f914.png

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_06_2016/post-177-0-95833300-1465218407.jpg

[jbmarcus21]

Citroen in Finland today (gallery photos) http://goo.gl/9LGlZi

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke & C3 'TEST3' - anyone spot anything different apart from the paintjob ?

New vid: https://www.facebook.com/mwmsports/videos/vb.143226225876989/473643842835224/?type=2&theater

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkXzOG_WYAE2sbC.jpg

[danon]

wheelie...

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13335545_10153870730838952_7342808534272035719_n.j pg?oh=44d092e07384fb19dbd74a671fe4a59d&oe=57C8E57F

[Lundefaret]

This is very Nose End First:D

More than you think ;)

[Rallyper]

This is very Nose End First:D

For sure. For those who wants "up, up and away..."

Looks spectacular but unbalanced to me.

[Hartusvuori]

Our gallery and short video clip:

http://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Citroen+C3WRC+TEST3+8.6.2016/
https://youtu.be/x7oA5z3--4Y

[stefanvv]

More than you think ;)

There can always be more than I think and say. Anyway such landing is a sign for something wrong on aerodynamics (and/or probably balance as Per said), or could be just a driver error.

[EstWRC]

Meeke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKcP6nyMMvY&feature=youtu.be

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Anyway such landing is a sign for something wrong on aerodynamics (and/or probably balance as Per said), or could be just a driver error.

Finland's jumps are not normal, that's why they are testing there.

C3 looks bloody fast though.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckcs18cWYAAm_qX.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Craig Breen ‏will be next in the C3...

'Ciao for now Sardinia (recce), we have a more urgent appointment to attend. #Test3'

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckcc5k8WEAAeiO7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckcc3yDXEAEj8KA.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckcc5hbWYAAeWta.jpg

[Hartusvuori]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pQcaqaNNGmU

Meeke continued today, so Breen's turn is tomorrow.

Difficult conditions today. Some rain, heavy winds and cold temperatures, +5 celcius (#FinnishSummer). My friend was spectating the tests and noted the car didn't handle stable at all times, especially rear end tended to get loose. Neveheless, it's fast and mean beast of a rally car. Until midday break, there were no interuptions. Yesterday afternoon the car was towed back to service twice after some small issues.

[dimviii]

video from Citroen racing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq3TtZ-KAyA

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckqie5PWYAAkaGg.jpg

[seb_sh]

Looking at that video made me think about aerodynamics a bit. You know how VW have that huge front splitter? Notice Citroen doesn't but on the jumps the front hangs in the air a lot, regardless of the jump angle. That's a pretty clear aero imbalance to me and it seems this is what the big VW splitter solves.

[Mirek]

IMO it may be dangerous to set the aerodynamic balance in such a way that it depends on the front spoiler because I expect it to be often broken in the real events.

[dimviii]

new video with Meeke at Finland
https://youtu.be/Y-9HN6Ce2Hs

[dimviii]

http://planetemarcus.com/pendant-ce-temps-la-la-polo-2017-est-en-allemagne/

New livery for the VW Polo WRC 2017. #WRC with Dieter Depping

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkxaxFHWYAAUR7W.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckxc8phWUAAmiQT.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckxc8qyXEAANmTH.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckxc8gRWsAAg9ap.jpg
http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/Test-Days-VW-Polo-Wrc-2017-Germany-Juin-2016/TestDaysVWPolo17_Germany0616_19.jpg

[jbmarcus21]

VW testing new Polo Wrc 2017 today in Germany with ZEBRA livery full gallery photos => http://goo.gl/ZqaLJa

[A FONDO]

new video with Meeke at Finland
https://youtu.be/Y-9HN6Ce2Hs

Nice pure clip.

I like how the car reacts to steering, seems so direct and strong.

[EightGear]

That VW test livery, very nice.

[danon]

Nice but looks lighter than the Citroen camo.

NEXT: Livery homologation weight!

[dimviii]

Sordo testing at Poland

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck5AWGRW0AA2LJ4.jpg

[EstWRC]

Toyota https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QJ4J6RnMXs&feature=youtu.be

[EstWRC]

Dmack tarmac test

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck7wGVVWsAEG5da.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck7wGlNW0AANyYO.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck7wHQ9XAAAf9UC.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck7wI5fXIAEUwnZ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck70eApXEAI0Zr3.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck70eQNWgAA221M.jpg

[EstWRC]

Tänak - dmack

https://youtu.be/7PIK-Ov0-QM

[dimviii]

Sordo Poland test
https://youtu.be/rna9U_PDBZY

[dimviii]

first photos from hyundai 2017 mule car,at south of France


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClEjMSZVYAAS9pJ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClEjL43VAAAuVkI.jpg

[dimviii]

Paddon testing for Poland
https://youtu.be/QzMu3aJ64xc

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/gr2_iSQL3m4

[EstWRC]

Toyota https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBIbLLgd0R4

[MartijnS]

4 minutes flatout with Paddon in Poland!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHsWxPVateY

[danon]

https://www.facebook.com/haydenpaddonwrc/photos/a.186311901404607.35647.184390891596708/1021257041243418/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/noseendfirst/

;)

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13450027_1021257041243418_4511698286281331244_n.jp g?oh=8fc1a5e5b001743cb9edd4d885252ea5&oe=57C8158E

[wwbroe]

4 minutes flatout with Paddon in Poland!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHsWxPVateY

That's some impressive driving in there.:)

[EstWRC]

Yeah, great to watch and impressive but it seems that he doesnt want to finish rally poland too, lol. Okay its just testing and he knows that road by heart. i doubt he would be that flat out and flamboyant at the rally. :)

[GravelBen]

Fighting the ruts looks interesting on some corners!

[Lundefaret]

Fighting the ruts looks interesting on some corners!

It feels quite "interesting" from inside the car too :)

[Sulland]

Nice picture Lundefaret!


https://www.facebook.com/haydenpaddonwrc/photos/a.186311901404607.35647.184390891596708/1021257041243418/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/noseendfirst/

;)

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13450027_1021257041243418_4511698286281331244_n.jp g?oh=8fc1a5e5b001743cb9edd4d885252ea5&oe=57C8158E

[dimviii]

It feels quite "interesting" from inside the car too :)

tell us mooooooooooree!!

[dimviii]

Neuville testing for Poland
https://youtu.be/_X58ux3oxlY

[Lundefaret]

tell us mooooooooooree!!

What do you want to know dimvii?

[stefanvv]

What do you want to know dimvii?

What was interesting I guess?!? Well it seems it is quite unusual route and speed over it to me....

[dimviii]

What do you want to know dimvii?

everything you can write at an open forum mate.
How was at right bucket with Paddon?

[Lundefaret]

everything you can write at an open forum mate.
How was at right bucket with Paddon?

Ok.
Hayden asked me quite early after we started working together if I wanted to come to a test. I declined, because I said it was very important that we get the basic theory down first, and really work on that (which still is a work in progress, and will be for some time, even tough Hayden takes things in a lot faster than I expected.) I knew from previous experiences that it can be (understandably) difficult for a driver to take new things in, in regards to driving technique, on a test, because even tough its a test its still a high stress environment. And there are also different aspects on a test, because this is often the first time you meet the team, with mechanics, engineers, codriver etc, and that can also be a "risk" if it doesn't work out, and can be a strain to he future working partnership. And I also dont wont to be present at a test if I feel I am not making a contribution, then I would just feel in the way.

I met Hayden and John in the airport in Warsaw, and we drove a Hyundai i20 together down to the test area. This was the first time Hayden and me met in person, so that was nice. And it was also nice to meet John. They are very nice persons both of them, but you already knew that.
From a rally fans perspective, when you come to a hotel in the middle of nowhere where a lot of cars from the same brand are parked outside, your heart starts racing a bit because you know its something special going on. We arrived in the hotel quite late in the evening. So it was all about getting the key and going to sleep.

Morning after it was breakfast. Here I met Rui for the first time (Rui Francisco Soares.) He is Haydens trusted race engineer, and has been for many years. Rally is a team sport, and for Hayden Hyundai is off course the team. Here you have prob about 200 people all working in one form or another to win WRC rallies. Within a team, there is what I call the "micro team". This is often the driver, codriver and engineer, but can be a few more people depending on the driver and how he works. For me coming from the outside its off course very important to get along with the micro team, and you never know how open the race engineer is to accepting new people, new ideas etc.
Rui is a very nice guy, and I felt (hope he feels the same) that we got along really well. He welcomed me in to the team - and thats always a good way to start. In some instances my work can be a link between the engineer and the driver, and I felt that really went very well. (And again, I hope Hayden and Rui felt the same.)

Outside of the micro team you have the main team. And meeting the Hyundai team (test team) for the first time was also very interesting.
When you come to a place in the middle of nowhere in some countryside, and there is parked two big trucks, and there is a lot of persons all working very intensely on a rally car, and with all the crowds and things from a WRC rally taken away, its easy to throw the parallel to the military. It could just as well have been some special forces detail, with the driver and codriver being the sharp end. The logistics are very similar, and you get a sense of both urgency and serious intent.
Both the engineers and mechanics had some good "war stories" to tell from a long life in motorsport. Especially the engine engineer had worked on a lot of interesting projects up trough the years.

When the test starts, its all planned out very meticulously. Drivers work differently. Some drivers drive, then give feedback, and let the engineer(s) do the thinking. Hayden is very involved, so together with Rui he has a very detailed plan for the test (most detailed I have seen.) First day was Wednesday, and the test started at 8 o´clock. And every run was planned in regards to set up changes (the set up part I off course can not go in to). It was raining, and because of the sunny forecast I hadn't brought any rain gear, but it was something in Haydens driving I wanted to see from the outside, so I found a very good spot for it in the wet. This worked out very good. On the way back I wanted to see the same corner from behind, and knew there was a chance he maybe could throw some gravel in my direction. Well, lets say I underestimated that a little bit. I got completely covered in sandy, wet mud. But it was important, so it was worth it.

After some runs, first with John, and then Rui in the passenger seat, Hayden asked if I wanted to come. I had "warned" Hayden that it might be difficult for me to give any good feedback from the passenger seat because of the speed, and all the things that are happening. We took one run to acclimatise (he off course tested some changes on that run to), and then I was going to try to give some feedback. I had planed this a little beforehand, deciding on some simple words to use on corner entry and exit, and with some short comments on the straights. This actually worked very good, and what is most impressive is that Hayden is able to take it in and do changes on the trot. He has impressed me hugely in this respect all from the very beginning, but still does.

In regards to being passenger in a WRC car, its off course completely ridiculous.
The acceleration is very good, but the braking on gravel is such that your eyes feel like they are going to pop out of their sockets, your limbs are thrown forward, and you really feel the strain in your neck when you try to keep your helmet covered brain box from detaching from the rest of your carcass.
Compared to a "normal" rally car everything happens so much faster. So as soon as you have braked, the car is hurled around in an impossible rotation angle, and you are seeing the world from out the side window while you try to get to grips with what is keeping the car attached to the loose gravel road in that impossible speed. The grip is just unbelievable.
After the acclimatisation run, then the analytical part of the brain takes over, and you got to get in the "zone" or "flow" to be able to think fast enough to give any decent comments. For me - and I think its the same for many motorsport drivers and codrivers - it feels like the whole world is slowing down.
If it hadnt been like that, I think it would have been very difficult to have time to give any useful input. All tough its also on my part always room for improvement, this means we have another tool in our tool box in regards to moving forward towards Haydens world championship.

It was a two day test where both driver, codriver, engineers and mechanics all play their role. And its all about grinding away towards future goals. Hayden has - how should we put this - quite a decent work ethic. Wednesday the driving/testing started at 08.00. It went on all the way to 18.00 (thats when the road was opened for traffic), with just a short lunch brake. Then debrief and dinner on site. (A very nice Spanish guy that stood for the catering, he also had a long history in motorsports.) Back to the hotel. I was handed some onboards for analysing. Hayden went for a run. We met at 22.00 in the lounge to go trough the plan for the day after in regards to driving. This lasted to about 24.00. And then it was on it again the day after.
For me it was a very good experience, because I felt it clicked well with both the micro team and the general team, and that I was able to make some real contributions to Hayden (which is off course the most important things). Just what we are working on I am not going to disclose, but both Rui, Hayden and me worked together to get there, and when we were done (all tough you are off course never done) the adjustments was also very visible on the data, which for me is off course a good proof of concept. So all in all a very positive experience, I hope I get to repeat many times in the coming years.

On a side note: What is important for rally talents that are trying to make their way up the ranks to know, is that it isn't mainly the driving on a rally these guys get paid for, but the immense work they put in in between.
Ogier didn't just land on the top of the podium by chance, he worked very hard to get there, and the same is true with Hayden.

[Hartusvuori]

Thanks! That must've been one of the most special and unique posts on this forum's history - if not the most.

[dimviii]

Thanks Lunda, hope you keep us informed with Heydens co operation.
Did you talked about the last 2 rallies and the bad outcome?

[traxx]

Really nice report Lundefaret !! Good to read what happens in this kind of test session.

[Marcco]

Lundefaret, please, just don't stop visiting and posting on this forum!

[N.O.T]

Lundefaret, please, just don't stop visiting and posting on this forum!

he is a celebrity now so we will see, he might even need a PR person to handle all the requests, especially from women. I might appoint myself as his PR since i am a very likable person and handsome.

[Rally Power]

Great stuff Lundefaret. Getting the “nose end first” into the pinnacle of the sport and assist one of the most promising rally drivers around it’s quite an achievement. Well done!

[seb_sh]

Heheh, this post "broke" the forum! :D

We've had Pentti Airikkala and Antony Warmbold post here before, but I guess this time it's more exciting because it's about something going on right now with an up-and-coming well liked driver.

[dimviii]

Tanak small video testing at Poland

https://www.facebook.com/vini206/videos/10153957986559475

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClfeFo-WYAAJYr5.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClfeGzRWEAAsoJP.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClfeHuQWIAEW0gW.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClfeI0zWYAAJVF5.jpg

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKZ2AOptz2E

[dimviii]

Mads
https://youtu.be/mlA_jSltK9w

[bluuford]

Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKZ2AOptz2E

That jump on 2:18 is just Estonishing;) low and long

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg test OB...

Fun day at the office 😊 PET @rajdpolski @MSportLtd @OfficialWRC #2motor #rightfootdown https://t.co/OVDvzz3cv1

[dimviii]

Neuville testing at Germany

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CloeT2-XIAArJ0g.jpg:large

[rallysupportnl]

VIDEO: Test Thierry Neuville - WRC Rallye Deutschland 2016!

http://i63.tinypic.com/2v1n71u.jpg (https://youtu.be/o9xiIuQGXJM)

Click on the photo or here --> https://youtu.be/o9xiIuQGXJM

[dimviii]

Camilli also testing

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13502678_10153964428414475_8520041451092074874_o.j pg

[jbmarcus21]

Neuville tested Deutschland Rallye yesterday.. Here my video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzQnbxyN-cQ

[dimviii]

Sordo testing

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClszufAWMAA5pdi.jpg

Latvala at Poland with 2017 polo
https://youtu.be/bpg4_IHbP_8

[rallysupportnl]

VIDEO: Test Dani Sordo - WRC Rallye Deutschland 2016!

http://i68.tinypic.com/11voeme.jpg (https://youtu.be/Tnaup3ie0b8)

Click on the photo or here --> https://youtu.be/Tnaup3ie0b8

[Fabian Gaukler]

VIDEO: Hyudai i20 Test for WRC Germany with Dani Sordo. Enjoy :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBJSa6iQRm0

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen Poland

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/mikkelsen_pet_rally_poland_2016/jbr_0.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/mikkelsen_pet_rally_poland_2016/jbr_0-011.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/mikkelsen_pet_rally_poland_2016/jbr_0-019.jpg

http://www.ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=34828&t=Mikkelsen-PET-Rally-Poland-2016




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClzydIyWQAAHujn.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClzyemGWAAEHJgy.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Clzyf9EWQAIwJH2.jpg

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKLR2nT5Khk

[dimviii]

excellent video,as always from Methka

[spyros]

same place as meeke's c3.

[N.O.T]

Useless "pro" photographers that will continue to deliver pictures of flowers and rocks and hairpins in 2017 deserve to spend the rest of their lives in the unemployment offices line.

[dimviii]

Camilli at Poland
https://youtu.be/mF4WBGvcN6Y

[EstWRC]

Latvala https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tOyJ3GKTEc

[dimviii]

Paddon testing at Germany

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl8SifsVYAAcWAZ.jpg

[dimviii]

Lefebvre and Breen testing at Poland


https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13439124_1115621908495957_7368283063613425679_n.jp g?oh=013d5b795aa5a18664ee03713797884e&oe=580952D7
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13510954_1115621981829283_9046178175882198883_n.jp g?oh=abc44e45dbef7fa7659c9639cc88a9d3&oe=58090666

[rp]

Tommi was testing today once again in the Central Finland...

https://www.facebook.com/rallyparadise/videos/1047936678631095/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

ERC Champion Kajetan Kajetanowicz ‏home event PET:

https://youtu.be/KxMCUYkiCDY

[Andre Oliveira]

Toyota next monday here at Portugal.

[EstWRC]

Toyota with Tommi in finland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjgwwrJhq1c&feature=youtu.be

[EstWRC]

aaaaaannndd another one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6eFp5njZOg

[mik78]

Toyota https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgjX9oowu98

[gorganl2000]

its looking much better since the early days

however, when i watch the citroen and vw vids...something just seems a little different about the toyota

but, time will tell next year when the timing clocks switch on

i wish them good luck with the project...the more competition, the better (hopefully they can manage to attract one competitive/decent driver, though this seems unlikely given the current situation)

[stefanvv]

it doesn't seem like "full throttle" test to me though, May be they just tested suspension or something. I've seen faster tests.

[mik78]

toyota https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udOMklpxL0Y

[Andre Oliveira]

Portugal, day 1, 3 photographers

https://www.facebook.com/RicardoOliveiraPhoto/?fref=ts

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13600216_638396559667530_7013661423268951666_n.jpg ?oh=f709086733b43512fd624bdc97c64435&oe=582EF953

https://www.facebook.com/grdphoto/?fref=ts

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13439234_1754452754769139_5179977662106650194_n.jp g?oh=571241348ae7ab9537b423dfe8d8f9a8&oe=57F1D0EC

https://www.facebook.com/fabioleitefl2015

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13592829_1326542340708117_7982211484511709384_n.jp g?oh=6687679af829a856db1790abf57d9ae9&oe=58003A2C

[OldF]

Reading this (http://wrcbehindthestages.blogspot.fi/2011/05/chapter-15-differential-extravaganza.html) again it looks like there’s a lot to test with the active centre differential also.

“We experimented with lots of different options, during rallies mostly, as tests were too short to do any real work on it.”

“When I approached the apex of the corner, I came on throttle and I needed a smooth transition from brake mode to acceleration mode, which did not upset the car, but applied strong pressure on the front diff to help pull the car into the apex, a relatively strong and specific pressure on the center diff to keep the car neutral, a smooth rising pressure on the rear diff for traction but not too much so as to prevent excessive oversteer. All that depended on the speed of the corner.”


What kind of mechanical construction (open differential, planetary differential) did the centre differential have in the past?

[janvanvurpa]

Reading this (http://wrcbehindthestages.blogspot.fi/2011/05/chapter-15-differential-extravaganza.html)
again it looks like there’s a lot to test with the active centre differential also.



What kind of mechanical construction (open differential, planetary differential) did the centre differential have in the past?

Oh OK this I know something of..
You understand how normal multi-plate LSD works right?
Half the clutch plates are splined to the case, the other half are spline to side gears In center diff half spline to input shaft, half to output shaft,,

Then in normal LSD there is some kind of spring, sometimes a series of small coil springs (think of any motorcycle clutch) but often a cupped saucer like spring called "Belleville Spring" or Belleville washer. This pushed plates and disc together making the two sets "locked" together and establishing diff "pre-load"..or "break-away torque" .that is how much torque needed to begin to allow the plates to slip some.....

In active diffs there was again discs and plates like we are used to in our own rally diff but instead of a spring to force them together there is hydraulic force or I think somebody even truied compressed air a million years ago..
The hydraulic force is of course able to be regulated as so the diff can go from zero pressure--able be "open" (input shaft turning at whatever speed and output shaft not turning at all) progressively all the way to complete 100% lock up (input shaft and output shaft turning exactly the same speed)
And of course it is a bunch of wheel sensors---like ABS sensors---counting rotation on all the wheels and probably input and output shaft rotation---and this goes to a computer that has a program or "map" done by some guy who certainly never ever sat in a rally car but is a genius engineer, and this decides how to lock up--progressively--or unlock (open on decel into corner).

Very expensive and incredibly costly and arbitrary to amass the foundational information to allow the "injur-near" to decide the MAP---(or said another more cynical way, to allow the injur-near enough information to decide what he belives the driver should like)..
If it was good, it worked. If it was not good--well maybe you read the blog from Warmbold from this very forum when he talked about driving all the way to Poland and then car was undrivable and after paying so much for prep and confusion it tuirns out that somebody had simply forgotten to LOAD a diff map..
Oh well sh1t happens.


Whn "active" diffs were not allowed or simply too insanely expensive work was don on the ramp angles of the pressure rings inside the normal cluth plate diff and this allowed different rates of lock up and lock up on drive direction and open or near open on coast/decel something like this:
http://www.slidewaysonline.com/images/LSDResearch/accel%20lock.jpg
Or like this:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads19/+B9IjBO+EWk+KGrHqEOKp+Ey+jC0RYFBM47+7m1m+_12129192 78601321839025.jpg

This works anywhere so this is what EVERYBODY has been using since active diffs were WISELY banned

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=60&v=S-mHX75n6K8

[aykutbilir]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=60&v=S-mHX75n6K8

realy question is iternity/0x2=Yaris WRC? :))


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[dimviii]

have we seen a diffuser at previous tests at c3?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmwymRWXYAA2FAI.jpg:large

[dimviii]

Traxx - WR is Free ‏@Traxx_WiF 20

@VolkswagenRally testing Polo R #WRC 2017 engine at high altitude


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cmw5DNbW8AAlZnN.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cmw5p_iWIAAMavV.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cmw5crqXgAQPiH6.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cmw6FxLWEAQC77t.jpg

[N.O.T]

have we seen a diffuser at previous tests at c3?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmwymRWXYAA2FAI.jpg:large

yes

http://i.imgur.com/m9TJOM8.jpg

[Lundefaret]

As expected, the aero-development is gaining traction (pun intended.) :)

[Toyoda]

Still no Hyundai...Intersting how different the C3 and Polo and Yaris spoiler solutions are.

[Eli]

where were Citroen testing, was it Finland?

[MM WRC]

Still no Hyundai...Intersting how different the C3 and Polo and Yaris spoiler solutions are.

I don't think it's a C3 spoiler... Instead, they're probably using the old DS3 wing and the 2017-spec wing is yet-to-be-designed.

[jbmarcus21]

VW testing new Polo in high altitude http://goo.gl/Oxckod

[devil's land]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVlU-dMx0JY

[HarriK]

Hyundai (sordo?) crashed today in Finland with 2017 car.. Both drivers have been taken to hospital for check. Both are ok.

[sete]

Nice to hear they are OK

[dimviii]

any photos?

[Tinke1979]

any photos?

Not for publication... Dani somewhat ok after the crash, but Marc hurt his back more... Both of them went to hospital.

[dimviii]

thanks Tinke.car repairable? can continue the test rest drivers?

[Tinke1979]

thanks Tinke.car repairable? can continue the test rest drivers?

Original plan was to drive tests tomorrow, sunday and monday, but now they have cancelled those days :(
Steering arm or something broke just before the crash and that is the reason.. High speed to stone and couple of smaller trees.

[dimviii]

i found some photos,seems a huge crash

http://www.ksml.fi/incoming/x5athx-1660615_.jpg/alternates/FREE_640/1660615_.jpg

http://www.ksml.fi/urheilu/Ralliauto-ajoi-ulos-Kuhmoisten-testip%C3%A4tk%C3%A4ll%C3%A4/797155?pwbi=8612c9879e78e922947646656ce97f60

[N.O.T]

2017 car in 2016 livery ?

[dimviii]

from Sordos twitter

Today we suffered a sharp falling output d s a little jump broke the suspension arm d .Thanks x impacting very strong support
Marc Marti is sore from the blow but it's better, thank you for caring for us
https://twitter.com/DaniSordo?lang=el

[dimviii]

2017 car in 2016 livery ?

we dont know if the photo is genuine. Cant see due to quality of photo,but i think that i can see numbers on car,maybe Paddon last year?

[danon]

Sordo will end up like Hirvonen - always second best with no champ title. Sainz was another beer.

[dimviii]

For what you are asking. Today we had a strong end road test in Finland after falling from a small jump in fifth is broken arm suspension turning the car completely to the right and hitting very hard against a stone front. So far everything is fine but tonight sleep in the hospital ... Tomorrow we'll have more news. Thanks for the support.

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13631555_1354493697900477_8934246206592380765_n.jp g?oh=cd4d2a3eb2212c5160497c0cfd261fec&oe=57FA722E

https://www.facebook.com/DanielSordo/photos/a.157566857593173.38423.155581457791713/1354493697900477/?type=3&theater

[lazy13]

we dont know if the photo is genuine. Cant see due to quality of photo,but i think that i can see numbers on car,maybe Paddon last year?
Yes, its Paddons crash in Pihjalakoski stage last year.


Lähetetty minun SM-G870F laitteesta Tapatalkilla

[Hartusvuori]

we dont know if the photo is genuine. Cant see due to quality of photo,but i think that i can see numbers on car,maybe Paddon last year?

Picture is Paddon in Rally Finland 2015, as it said in the caption.

[Tinke1979]

I can confirm that there was no spectators on that spot during the crash. Only road closerers.

[Tinke1979]

Here is video filmed before the crash (no crash included on this video!!) ( I am not click baiting :D )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aOntqj8G5I

[dimviii]

Marc Martí Moreno @MarcMartiWRC

Thank you very much to all friends and fans for your messages of ánimo.Dolorido but lively, waiting beside Dani info scanner

[Simmi]

Hyundai (sordo?) crashed today in Finland with 2017 car.. Both drivers have been taken to hospital for check. Both are ok.

You sure it was the 2017 mule car? Were they back to back testing with the current i20?

[HarriK]

You sure it was the 2017 mule car? Were they back to back testing with the current i20?
No, I was typing wrong.

[dimviii]

c3 wrc test no5 at asphalt. Have we see no4?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnRDCCPXEAENW30.jpg

[N.O.T]

no, but No 4 is cursed in WRC you don't see it often.

[dimviii]

Traxx - WR is Free ‏@Traxx_WiF

@OttTanak testing new tarmac @DMACK_Tyres


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnVyv1XWYAA5wkh.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnVzf26XgAQ1xk1.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnVzfOHWYAAJw72.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnVzhAVXYAEEqVO.jpg

[EstWRC]

Weird looking car and great to see Tänak wearing his winning helmet from rally Estonia 2014 :)

[pantealex]

real color of Fiesta

[itix]

It is a raw body shell with body filler, Fibre glass panels and everything. No livery, no paint.

As naked as can be (and the body filler suggest it has been through some tough times)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

great to see Tänak wearing his winning helmet from rally Estonia 2014 :)

Maybe this is why he has that helmet on again:

"Tänak to appear on ERC Rally Estonia city stage

Top Estonian rally ace Ott Tänak will make an appearance on the FIA European Rally Championship’s auto24 Rally Estonia this weekend – driving a crosskart on the Elva street stage.

Tänak, who won the event on its ERC debut in 2014 and recently came close to a world championship victory on Rally Poland, will be joined by the 2013 event winner Georg Gross in getting behind the wheel of the spectacular crosskarts on Saturday evening.

The pair will take on the spectator-friendly course 10 minutes before the first of the ERC contenders."

https://www.fiaerc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Urmo-Aava-krosskart-800x533.jpg

[Andre Oliveira]

Toyota in south of Portugal: https://www.facebook.com/ze.gonzo.5

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/l/t1.0-9/13645346_1369934736368023_3920952028875107237_n.jp g?oh=124b044608bd7e38459d1d8d9d88f535&oe=5822A1F0

[dimviii]

Tanak asphalt test

https://youtu.be/uhjZXJ3pFlg

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13709925_1087526811337459_2043146305428495686_n.jp g?oh=1903bc82d5122e53ce47882e1be61378&oe=57F7443B
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13731517_1087526981337442_7488715239468967804_n.jp g?oh=3a45790c135c6db2b0a172b079721c05&oe=57F5306A
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13669603_1087526878004119_8323984075752140916_n.jp g?oh=1ff8e5205cbdd5f414c15df2b6c9bd3c&oe=57F7D9D7
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13716215_1087526818004125_1028360985861953967_n.jp g?oh=eaa882bcc40d1134d776a9e5916d905b&oe=5822AC2E

https://www.facebook.com/Web-Rally-759610340795776/photos_stream?ref=page_internal

[satukata]

VW starts rally Finland testweek tomorrow. (rumour) all drivers drive two days. One day 2016 car and one day 2017 car.

[pantealex]

VW starts rally Finland testweek tomorrow. (rumour) all drivers drive two days. One day 2016 car and one day 2017 car.

Regulations don´t allow 6 days testing...
I believe 4 days max.

[aykutbilir]

Did 2017 car tests count for 2016 test limitation?


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[dimviii]

Did 2017 car tests count for 2016 test limitation?


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logic says no.


Camilli testing

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnqSXfIXYAA2Eyq.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnqSXiZXgAAUzqG.jpg

[Duvel]

Does anyone know if some teams will be testing for Germany this week? And where this could be.

[JUF]

That should be all upcoming tests for Rallye Deutschland:

19.07. Skoda Trittenheim
20.07. Skoda Burgen
21.07. Skoda Ensch
07.08. VW Leitzenberg
08.08. VW Trittenheim
09.08. Hyundai Burgen
09.08. VW Veldenz
10.08. Hyundai Trittenheim
10.08. VW Neumagen
10.08. M Sport Wintrich
11.08. Hyundai Ensch
11.08. VW Burgen
11.08. M Sport Veldenz
12.08. Hyundai Wintrich
12.08. M sport Trittenheim
13.08. M Sport Ensch
14.08. M Sport Leitzenberg
15.08. WRC2 Veldenz
15.08. WRC2 Neumagen
15.08. Citroen Wintrich

[dimviii]

Fredrik Gustavsson ‏@F_Gustavsson

Time for another test with the new C3 WRC today for @krismeeke and @paulnagle1. #C3WRC #Test5 #WRC2017 #WRC


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cntenx6XYAA0x6f.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CntYm2vWAAA2Tm4.jpg

[dimviii]

Depping testing polo 2017 at high altitude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75y4z3fhYQI

[EstWRC]

m-sport guys finland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjOii6y7tfY

[satukata]

m-sport guys finland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjOii6y7tfY
Who was driver today?

[EstWRC]

Yesterday Camilli and today Camilli/Ostberg shared.

[jbmarcus21]

Gilles Panizzi testing today 208R5 for Rallye de la Reunion => http://goo.gl/xvJXt6

[dimviii]

Camilli
https://youtu.be/Dj_f3RcqBqU

[dimviii]

Lappi for Germany
https://youtu.be/PtZZfVWVoPQ

[danon]

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13726764_10153967783343952_7255998646247688935_n.j pg?oh=4d45162e555a0d94a935979fa7f5e572&oe=581CF494

[dimviii]

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing

How is your summer? @krismeeke doesn’t like the beach, so he preferred to drive our #WRC on tarmac for #TEST5 ☀️����⛱

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn0fz6EXYAkD2ME.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn0f14IXgAA3mwM.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn0f2frWEAAzPmo.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn0f4zHWEAAux6C.jpg

[GigiGalliNo1]

That C3 looks good!

[dimviii]

Mads
https://youtu.be/pElVgQo-Kks


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn04EitWYAA10wR.jpg

[EstWRC]

That C3 looks good!

really good IMO!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads
https://youtu.be/pElVgQo-Kks




Nice start to the video... then Ostberg comes along. ;)

[Mintexmemory]

Nice start to the video... then Ostberg comes along. ;)

Malcolm - There you are Mads, 40 dampers fresh off the line. Which 4 would you like us to fit to your exact specification and setting? Then will you keep that for Finland or tool about in a non-specific manner and bitch about the feel while everyone else just drives??

[AL14]

Kubica back in a rally car testing for rally Lucca https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCB1HIJncDM&feature=youtu.be

[Mariusz]

Kubica back in a rally car testing for rally Lucca https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCB1HIJncDM&feature=youtu.be
Youtube claims that it's Published on Apr 12, 2012

[AL14]

Youtube claims that it's Published on Apr 12, 2012

Lol. back to te future then :)

[pantealex]

VW 4 days for Finland starting today, Hyundai starting tomorrow (friday)
Places unknown ;)

[EstWRC]

Tänak testing today, little clips of jump https://twitter.com/DMACK_Tyres/status/756018606085767169
https://twitter.com/Traxx_WiF/status/756026278273249280


Picture of VW

https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/756024282795442176

[pantealex]

Oreca/Suninen servicepark is/was in Rantasipi Hotel Laajavuori, test road is not far away...

[Ucci]

Youtube claims that it's Published on Apr 12, 2012

Indeed, that is a very old clip....according to the rally Lucca Facebook, RK is going to participate, but they have to modify the gearbox paddle to the steering colume....

[EstWRC]

They forgot Michelin sticker on the car :p

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn4qrOtW8AAHUga.jpg:large

[jbmarcus21]

Marcus at home testing today new Polo Wrc 2017 => http://goo.gl/agQxw0

[EstWRC]

Tänak jumps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjfzRkeDxw

[itix]

That C3 looks good!
It'd look a ton better if they'd just ditched the middle lights.

I know other Citroen look like this but god damn that looks horrible.

[Mariusz]

Indeed, that is a very old clip....according to the rally Lucca Facebook, RK is going to participate, but they have to modify the gearbox paddle to the steering colume....
Actually, they have been working on moving the gearbox paddle from Fiesta to Clio for a few months. So it's more that they wanted it there, not that they had to. They had to get an approval from Italian Motorsport Federation (I don't know the name) to participate though.

[EstWRC]

Nice vid of Tänak/Grönholm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cwQWUY-NCo

Photos http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-essais-rallye-de-finlande-2016/

Grönholm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGPE5jxva0Q


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn5KzgDWcAADHUY.jpg

[rallyroni]

Ostberg tests 19.7. -20.7 M-Sport

1025

Photos:
https://www.facebook.com/ronimuiluphotography/posts

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4b2_5dacgI

[satukata]

Ostberg tests 19.7. -20.7 M-Sport

1025

Photos:
https://www.facebook.com/ronimuiluphotography/posts

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4b2_5dacgI

thanks great video

[Toyoda]

Hi
So it would seem the 2017 VW and C3 jump with the front lifting up, is this to get the back on the ground as fast as possible for more traction? or fale safe so it does not land front first? Just the jumps we are seeing? or some else?
Cheers
Andrew

[tomhlord]

Hi
So it would seem the 2017 VW and C3 jump with the front lifting up, is this to get the back on the ground as fast as possible for more traction? or fale safe so it does not land front first? Just the jumps we are seeing? or some else?
Cheers
Andrew

Good question! Seb Marshall hinted/suggested on a recent Absolute Rally podcast interview that it's the aero set-up that is causing this. Notice how the Toyota doesn't seem to do that too much and supposedly neither does the Hyundai. Wether or not this is deliberate is a bit unknown.

[dimviii]

small clip with Paddon
https://twitter.com/Traxx_WiF/media?lang=el

[dimviii]

Paddon jumping
https://twitter.com/HaydenPaddon

[dimviii]

nice video with Ogier and Paddon
https://youtu.be/TXvDbW5CFVM

[Extremrallye]

Today Paddon and Ogier with the Polo 2017 https://youtu.be/TXvDbW5CFVM

[dimviii]

c3 wrc asphalt test with Meeke
https://www.facebook.com/citroenracing/videos/vb.34740377056/10153828338542057/?type=2&theater

[makinen_fan]

Hi
So it would seem the 2017 VW and C3 jump with the front lifting up, is this to get the back on the ground as fast as possible for more traction? or fale safe so it does not land front first? Just the jumps we are seeing? or some else?
Cheers
Andrew

It's aero balance problem, not intentional. You have massive rear wing and diffuser creating a lot of downforce and in the front you only have front spoiler.

[dimviii]

if you freeze the video at 0,56 there is something small like antenna at the engine bonnet.Whats this?
https://youtu.be/11to-KMUA6Q

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Citroën Racing on the 2017 C3 asphalt test / spec :

http://www.citroenracing.com/en/2016/news/wrc-news/70301/world-rally-2017-makes-asphalt-debut/

[maciotacio]

This is pitot tube, isnt' it? Like in F1, it measures fluid flow velocity.

[Zeakiwi]

Would appear to be pitot tube on citroen. http://www.racecar-engineering.com/racing-tech/how-to-use-pitot-tubes/