[CIR] Rally del Ciocco 2008

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Next weekend starts the best (probably) Championship in Europe.

Let's see the gap between conventional Gr N cars and S2000, last year Andreucci made some impressive results with Lancer EVO IX.

Longhi will use N12B version of impreza... maybe N14 is having some problems.. I suppose Aghini will use the N12B version too... and

Travaglia and Navarra are back to CIR with Punto S2000... but for me the man to beat in 2008 will be Luca Rossetti!

Official website:
http://www.cioccosporting.it/

Entry List
http://www.cioccosporting.it/ciocco_2008/elenco_iscritti.pdf

[Tom206wrc]

I think the best championship in Europe is rather the TRA(Trofeo Rally Asfalto)still from Italy :D

[Mirek]

Tom: By competition? Definitely not.

I'm looking forward to rally del Ciocco as well.

[urabus-denoS2000]

By competition and drivers,as Mirek said , definitely not.
Look at how Silva and Re did at rally Como.If the real CIR competition were there,they would struggle to be in the top 10 in my opinion.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I think that this season ,without Basso around, could easily be Rossettis year.Only Andreucci ,Travaglia and maybe Cantamessa could attack him

[Tom206wrc]

]Tom: By competition? Definitely not.

I'm looking forward to rally del Ciocco as well.




Alright in fact I was thinking about the cars, not really the battle ;)

[Jarek Z]

Trofeo Rally Asfalto the best championship? Maybe for old gentleman drivers who don't know what to do with their money! ;)

I agree with you guys. The real competition is in Campionato Italiano Rally. However, after looking at the entry list I see that some famous names are missing. Where are Dallavilla, Sottile, Cunico, Gamba, Ratiglia, Caldani...

[Tom206wrc]

I think that this season ,without Basso around, could easily be Rossettis year.Only Andreucci ,Travaglia and maybe Cantamessa could attack him



And what about Perico ?? :confused:

[urabus-denoS2000]

And what about Perico ?? :confused:

Not really...
But dont worry,the title will probably go to a 207 driver ;)

[Tom206wrc]

I don't worry at all anyway :p :

[HaCo]

Don't forget Navarra!!!

I would love to attend one of these rallys, cause the level is so high...

Some defections in 2wd: Ciuffi (Swift s1600) and Bizzarri (Clio R3) wont start.
As Madeira-Rally wrote Longhi and Aghini will use n12 version due to problems to new cars, now its official.
There is a lot of snow in special stages, and weather forecast predict other snow in these two days.

[Tom206wrc]

We can quickly expect pictures before the start of rally thanks to Claudio of http://www.rallylink.it ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Live results will be available here
http://www.tempionline.it/2008/rally/ciocco/classifiche.htm

Interesting that this year tere will be a cup for privateers...
Cantamessa, Cavallini, Chentre Gianfico, Perico and Signor entered for this specific cup...

[HaCo]

SNOW?!?!? Ow, that is AWESOME! :D :D

Btw, that TV stage, will it be streamed on the net as well?

[HaCo]

I don't think it's for CIR, but it's a testvideo of an Italian 207...
http://www.toscanarally.com/2008/video/toscanarally_s2000.wmv

[HaCo]

Pictuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuures of shakedown, no snow...
http://wrf.forumfree.net/?t=25861652

[dimviii]

what kind of problems have the new n14? :rolleyes:

[HaCo]

what kind of problems have the new n14? :rolleyes:
They are still looking for the trunk... :D

Are there images of tests with the N14?

[Tom206wrc]

Pictuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuures of shakedown, no snow...
http://wrf.forumfree.net/?t=25861652




I like Cavallini's livery !!! :)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

what kind of problems have the new n14? :rolleyes:

As I know.. ECU problems

[dimviii]

thanks madeira!
anybody to translate these links please?
http://www.rallylinknews.com/news/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2472&Itemid=29

http://www.rallylinknews.com/news/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2468&Itemid=29

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Some more pics of the shakedown
http://www.rallylinkserver.com/2008/ciocco/01/thumb.html

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Live stage times should be available here... but like last year live stage results system used by Italian rallys... not working :(

http://www.tempionline.it/2008/rally/ciocco/classifiche.htm

[[Madeira-Rally]]

After SS1
1.Longhi-5.32.1
2.Andreucci+0.8
3.Rossetti+1.4
4.Perico+4.8 5.
Cantamessa+4.9
6.Aghini+6.7
7.Navarra+9.7
8.Cavallini+14.9
9.Gianfico+15.0
10.Travaglia+16.2

[Tom206wrc]

I know it's only superspecial but Travaglia lost a lot me thinks !! :s

[urabus-denoS2000]

Yes, 16s is a lot ,especially on a superspecial.
Maybe he spun?

[Tom206wrc]

Yes, 16s is a lot ,especially on a superspecial.
Maybe he spun?



According to Claudio, problem for Travaglia on the SSS yesterday was rather due to set-up of the car for that kind of stage :confused:

thanks madeira!
anybody to translate these links please?
http://www.rallylinknews.com/news/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2472&Itemid=29

http://www.rallylinknews.com/news/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2468&Itemid=29

Brief summary: Subaru Aimont Racing noticed some problems in the ECU of N14 model, so they decided to run in Ciocco with old model. Now Subaru has to solve problems at ECU, and Aimont is planning some tests in the next weeks before next CIR appointment (rally di San Marino). The press release says also that only Longhi is registered in Italian Championship so Aghini is not going to score points. Aghini will run in italian gravel championship .

[Madeira]

Good morning!
Paolo Andreucci is doing a disappointing results until now. I think this rally is running very close of his home...
The drivers have found very slippery conditions on the road this morning.

[Tom206wrc]

Great battle between Longhi(unexpected) and Rossetti :bounce:


Perico is also a disappointment(I expected him more cloth to the top 3)... :(

[Wim_Impreza]

Good morning!
Paolo Andreucci is doing a disappointing results until now. I think this rally is running very close of his home...
The drivers have found very slippery conditions on the road this morning.

He won the rally last year, so I expected much from him too.

Great battle between Longhi and Rossetti for the lead! The 'old' Subaru's are going well.

[HaCo]

Nice battle there in front! Nice to see the subaru's going that well!

[Madeira]

The BF Goodrich tyres are doing the diference until now!

[HaCo]

Who is BF, and whos not? :)

Exciting next stage, only .1 secs diff between the first two! A very promising start of the Italian championship...

[Madeira]

Who is BF, and whos not? :)


Well, Peugeot, Subaru and Fiat-BF

Mitusbishi (Ralliart)- Pirelli ;)

[Madeira]

SS5 is stopped!! No further details

[Tom206wrc]

Well, Peugeot, Subaru and Fiat-BF

Mitusbishi (Ralliart)- Pirelli ;)



Only Rosseti's Peugeot is on BFGoodrich ;)

[Mirek]

Subaru is on Pirelli. Ucci as well. Rossetti and Abarths on BFG.

[Madeira]

]Subaru is on Pirelli. .

Are you sure?
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/2944/imgp2787ya4.jpg

[Mirek]

Ok, my fault ;)

An accident happened in ss 5, unfortunately seems that a spectator is involved... The race is stopped for now.

[Tom206wrc]

It looks like a spectator was hit by a car on stage and may have died of injuries... :(

Yes, the car involved is Aghini's subaru, but till now no official comunications about spectator conditons.

[Tom206wrc]

Yes, the car involved is Aghini's subaru, but till now no official comunications about spectator conditons.




After having lost his former codriver(Loris Roggia)years ago in a crash too, he's very unlucky ;(

[Tom206wrc]

Confirmation from a rally marshall before the press conference(held at 2.30pm gmt+1), a lady spectating the rally was deadly hit by the Subaru of Andrea Aghini going off road in SS5... ;( ;(



Condolences to her family and friends

I wish good luck too poor Andrea too

[Tom206wrc]

There are other rumours the lady was from the officials of the rally(marshall ??)and crossed the road when Aghini was coming full speed on stage, inevitably hitting her... :confused:

[Mirek]

What a tragic news. Rest in peace... :(

[Tom206wrc]

Rally definitively and officially stopped after the tragedy...

[HaCo]

:( That is very sad news, RIP :(

[Madeira]

Condolences for her family, friends and Italian rally fans.

Unbelievable! Aghini did not deserve another tragic accident like this...

[janez l.]

Some say that her dog pulled her on the road.

Anyway, sad start to the beginning of the season.

[HaCo]

Conferenza stampa terminata. Poche parole per ufficializzare che il rally si ferma in solidarietà alla famiglia della spettatrice che ha perso la vita per una tragica fatalità, le cui modalità saranno chiarite ma, come diffuso da tutte le agenzie, sembra sia trascinata in strada dal proprio cane proprio mentre transitava Andrea Aghini econMassimo Cerrai. L'impatto è stato tragico.

Tutti si stringono intorno alla famiglia ed il comitato organizzatore, solidale con la famiglia della donna, sospende il Rally del Ciocco. I quattro costruttori ufficiali appoggiano la decisione del comitato organizzatore.

Il rally dovrebbe avere probabilmente una propria classifica: bisognerà fare un pò di conti con il chilometraggio percorso, ma questo è un altro discorso, da fare a freddo.

Dalla mia parte, dopo aver vissuto la tragica scomparsa di Loris, non posso che esprimere ed abbracciare Andrea Aghini, cercando inutilmente di trovare delle parole di conforto per giustificare un destino maledetto. Ma ora piangiamo una persona che non c'è più.

If anyone can speak Italian, I think here are some more details. I tried it with babelfish and it also found the word dog, but it was not clear enough...

Nobody deserves this, it's stupid, why do these things have to happen... :(

[matSLO]

If thats truth I really hope it is good reminder to everyone that pets don`t belong on rally events. Even people are sometimes hard to control, not to mention them...

[urabus-denoS2000]

Tragic news.
Rest in Peace.
Condolences to her friends and family

[N.O.T]

Tragic news :(

[Tom206wrc]

If thats truth I really hope it is good reminder to everyone that pets don`t belong on rally events. Even people are sometimes hard to control, not to mention them...



I agree, and they can also be scared by the noises of the cars and do anything(even go away on the rally road)... :mark:

[Motorsportfun]

If thats truth I really hope it is good reminder to everyone that pets don`t belong on rally events. Even people are sometimes hard to control, not to mention them...

Unfortunately's the truth.

[strokethepussy]

Her name was Suzanna. She lived at Casa del Regolo, where the crash took place. The dog had run away, she didn't purposely have it at the course, as her house is metres from the road. Suzanna was a guide at the Grotta del Vento where we worked together 5 years ago, and she was a wonderful mentor to me. She was also a neighbour and family friend. She leaves behind her husband, son and daughter. She was a hard-working woman, always smiling and so ready to help anyone.
She will be very sadly missed.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

What a shame :(

Condolences to her family and friends.

Aghini was very unlucky :(

[Fly]

Confirmation from a rally marshall before the press conference(held at 2.30pm gmt+1), a lady spectating the rally was deadly hit by the Subaru of Andrea Aghini going off road in SS5... ;( ;(



Condolences to her family and friends

I wish good luck too poor Andrea too

If you really feel sorry for family and friends, don't put happy smileys in other threads just a few hours after you wrote this.
Lack of respect from you!!