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!!WALDO!!
1st March 2008, 23:41
The Last of a Breed of Race Car, a home build, basement build one of a kind racer.
Paul Russo and Ray Nichels constructed this car in the basement of Russo's Hammond, Indiana home during the winter of 1949-1950. Qualifying in the 7th row, the Russo-Nichels Special captured the imagination of the American racing public by running with the leaders for much of the day, before the rain-shortened race ended at 345 miles. The Russo-Nichels Special soon became affectionately known as “Basement Bessie” as it was campaigned on the AAA Championship Trail during the 1950 season. Ray Nichels and Paul Russo and their hand-built "basement" creation missed the chance to win the National Championship only after a season-ending injury to Russo in the November AAA Indy car race in Phoenix. Sam Hanks drove the car to second at Bay Meadows. The car collected wins at the Illinois State Fair at Springfield with Russo and with Johnnie Parsons at the first ever Indy car race at the newly built Darlington Raceway, SC in December and collected 1568 car owner points over the Lou Moore’s driver’s Henry Banks’ 1498 points. So this car and the team of Russo-Nichels would have been the Car Owner’s Champion in 1950.
As good as 1950 was 1951 started out with Bessie being too slow to make the 500 field as it appears the year old car was a bit outdated. As the season went on though Bessie performed and won at the Detroit Mile at the State Fairgrounds and finished 2nd, 3rd and 4th and collected 700 points for the season. Far behind the Belanger #99 that carried Lee Wallard to victory at Indy and Tony Bettenhausen to the National Title.
In 1952, Russo did not enter Bessie at the 500 and missed the show in Lutes Truck Parts Kurtis 4000 Dirt Offy. The car was sold to H. A. Chapman and was known as the Chapman Special at Milwaukee with his driver, one legged Midget star Bill Schindler driving Bessie to 3rd ,finishing behind winner Mike Nazaruk and Russo in the Lutes car in second after Bill started 18th out of 18 cars that started. There were 18 cars also missing the show including the previous race’s winner, Troy Ruttman in the 500 winning car and the outstanding Johnny McDowell crashing his Kurtis Offy in the north end when his spindle broke and being thrown from the car.
Schindler qualified 2nd at the Raleigh, NC paved mile but lost his brakes 43 laps into the race. Bill set 3rd fastest time at Springfield and took the lead on lap 67 and led the final 34 laps for the car’s second win at Springfield and fourth overall. A week later he ran second behind Chuck Stevenson in the dirt at Milwaukee for 200 miles. He did take the Pole at DuQuoin but had not been finishing races. At Syracuse Bill and Manual Ayulo crashed had in turn 3 on lap 37 and the caution flew until lap 61 but Schindler was uninjured. 14 days later, Bill left us in a horrible crash in a Sprint car race at Allentown, PA. Buzz Barton replaced him in Bessie at Denver and brought Bessie in 5th place. He missed the show at the San Jose, CA mile, the race that took Joe James from us. Buzz did qualify 3rd on the very tough Phoenix Mile but spun out on lap 81. The car collected a very creditable 780 points for the season with 680 being credited to the late Bill Schindler.
In 1953 East Coast veteran Midget racer drove to 5th behind Jack McGrath, Jimmy Bryan, Jerry Hoyt and Bessie’s father, Paul Russo at Milwaukee and still in the dirt. After a short June Springfield race Ernie was involved in a strange deal. At Detroit on lap 73 Ernie flipped Bessie, bringing out the Red Flag. It was so long that people worked on cars, illegal in those days so the race reverted to lap 51 and Ernie then was credited with 6th but knocked out of the car due to injuries. Bob Scott took over Bessie for the second Springfield race and brought her home 9th. Ernie got in for the tough Milwaukee 200 but was too slow and missed the field. At DuQuoin, Cal Niday brought Bessie in 8th after qualifying 4th, Bessie’s second one legged driver. Cal missed the Syracuse show and Bob Scott missed the Hoosier 100 by being too slow for the 18 car fields. Bob did finish 5th with Bessie at Sacramento after starting 12th and 5th again after starting 13th on the Arizona Fairgrounds Mile. Bessie garnered 691 points for the season with three drivers scoring points.
Now for 1954 bring in another East Coast star, Johnny Thomson and Johnny put Bessie in the inside of row two at the Greatest Spectacle but had the steering freeze up on lap 165 and was credited with 24th place in the low attrition race. Interesting that Johnny Thomson would die at Allentown over 6 years later in basically the same race that took Schindler. After Indy, the car landed in the able hands of Walt Faulkner. He started 7th and finished 8th completing 100 miles in the first pavement race on the Milwaukee Mile. Interesting this race had 19 cars out of 22 finish 100 miles unheard of in those days. Then the car and driver passed on Langhorne and showed up at Darlington but started 23rd and finished 13th. In this race Bob Scott lost his life on the Backstretch on lap 109 becoming the second driver to die that drove Bessie. At Springfield Duke Nalon took a shot and missed the field as Bessie was showing her age. Duke also missed the Milwaukee 200 a week later with Chapman’s aging car. At DuQuoin Andy Linden gets in and sets 3rd fastest time and was running 6th when the race flagged when Clay Smith a Champion Mechanic for Chuck Stevenson in 1952 was hit by Rodger Ward and killed. After passing on Syracuse they proceeded to miss the Hoosier 100 by being 24th fastest, unfortunately 18 started the race. At Sacramento Andy went to set 14th fastest and Cut it in half with a fine 7th. At Phoenix Bessie showed her teeth as came from 7th to finished 4th her best finish of the year. He finished with a 7th to 5th at the Las Vegas Dirt Mile ending up 2 miles behind Jimmy Bryan the new National Champion. 410 points put the H.A. Chapman #43 Russo/Nichels Offy in the middle of the car owner points with Andy picking up 360 of the points.
In 1955 the combo of Tony Bettenhausen and Paul Russo drove the Chapman #10 to second, unfortunately the car was a Kurtis 500. Tony drove Bessie at Milwaukee but missed the show and then passed on Langhorne. Tony then missed the Springfield show and it was off to Milwaukee. In the second longest race of the season, now a 250 miler Bessie chased Pat Flaherty home finishing second. Then she missed the race at DuQuoin with Tony and Jack Turner missed the race at Syracuse and the Hoosier 100 with old Bessie as she is not working on dirt all of a sudden. The car was not at Sacramento and now Bob Veith got into the car for the Arizona Fairgrounds and old “Traction” got Bessie to run 5th fastest but faded to 8th 4 laps down. The race ended early as Jack McGrath was killed on lap 85. Not a good way for AAA to end its connection to Championship Racing and all ladders. Bessie only got 450 and ended its time in AAA with 4629 points. Before she would race in 1956 three drivers who drove her were now gone. April 22nd at Vallejo, CA, Walt Faulkner was killed in a USAC Stock Car race on his first qualifying lap. He joined Bill Schindler and Bob Scott that also drove Bessie but did not survive the sport.
She won Springfield twice, once with Russo and with Schindler, won at Detroit with Russo and Darlington with Johnnie Parsons. Interesting she would still hang around for another 10 years.

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!!WALDO!!
1st March 2008, 23:43
USAC YEARS----10 more Seasons.
A bit misleading as Bessie raced some and sat in the garage other times so 1956 after Indy she was now in the hands of the very capable Andy Linden. The big problem was that Bessie did not perform as usual. She was first Alternate at the Rex Mays Milwaukee deal after finishing third in the consolation race. This cause Linden to look other places and Tucson’s Bill Cheesbourg took over the #5 and missed the show at Langhorne, 14th at Darlington, no showed for the make up date at Atlanta Lakewood, with a 16th at Springfield and no showed again at the 200 miler at Milwaukee. Bill missed the show at DuQuoin and vacated the car for “greener pastures” as Jimmy Reece climbed into Bessie and missed the show at Syracuse like Cheesbourg did in his new ride. For the Hoosier 100, exit Reece enter Van Johnson and he wrecked Bessie in practice. At Sacramento another driver from Tucson made his first attempt at stardom with Bessie and missed the show. Name this time was Roger McCluskey. Van Johnson got back into the car at Arizona Fairgrounds and was 19th fastest. When Rodger Ward failed to start, Van did and spun out in turn 2 on lap 25 and finished 18th. Not a good year as a 14th was her best finish and no points. Interesting like the two one legged drivers, Tucson's only contribution to the sport both drove her in the same year.
In 1957 the new driver was one time attempter Jimmy Reece. Jimmy got flagged 10 laps down at Langhorne in 14th, 12th at the Milwaukee Mays after getting in by winning the consolation race beating 1952 500 winner Troy Ruttman and eventual first alternate Ed Elisian. Jimmy got Bessie up to 9th at the Detroit Mile but Jimmy was gone from the car and after not towing to Atlanta, James “Dick” Rathmann landed in the car for the Williams Grove non pointer and then off to Springfield. Dick grabbed a 12th place in his return after a bout in NASCAR. Bessie got into the Milwaukee 200 by being 26th fastest but spun out on lap 156 and finished 16th.
At DuQuoin another driver made his second attempt at Championship Racing and put Bessie in the field, Champaign, Illinois’ Don Branson. Don set 4th fastest time and faded to 9th one lap down. The team elected not to tow to Syracuse and got ready for the big paying Hoosier 100 and missed the show with Rathmann. They did go to the newly paved Trenton New Jersey State Fairgrounds and set 13th fastest time but finished 5 laps down in the 100 miler and was credited with 16th. The team passed on Sacramento and then missed the show at Phoenix with Dick and ended the season with 100 points.
The car was sold and delivered to New Jersey into the garage of Joe Barzda and his California Speed Shop. She was renumbered #33 and was going to be an East Coast Car and Joe showed up for a cold Trenton show and only 14 cars started and Bessie broke on lap 60 and Joe got 9th. Joe ventured to Milwaukee and finished 13th after starting 16th. Then back east to Langhorne but only went 9 laps before ending the day. No trip to the Final Atlanta Lakewood race that killed Art Bisch, the Milwaukee winner in the same car. Joe got ready for another Midwest trip to pay for the car and drove from 16th at Springfield to finish 4th behind Thomson, George and Freeland, not bad for the old car. Then he scored a 11th at Milwaukee from 16th again so he was moving up in the points. Then he headed east and passed on DuQuoin and went to Syracuse finishing 13th and scoring no points. Barzda qualified 12th for the Hoosier 100 but got hit by a rock and withdrew on lap 94 and got no points. Back to Trenton and the top 4 qualifiers were Bessie drivers, Jimmy Reece, non Bessie driver Ward, Bessie drivers, Branson and Barzda. Joe got fourth but Jimmy Reece as fatally injured on the last lap while fighting with Thomson for 2nd on the final lap. That was now the 4th driver to have driven this famous car to lose his life while racing. There was no trip west as Joe was more than likely ahead of the deal with these good finishes. Joe and Bessie got 320 points and the driver finished 18th in the points and the car 22nd. With this year, Bessie had scored more than 5049 points through her career so far with more points to come, maybe.
The 1959 Season started at Daytona on April 4th and after Marshall Teague was killed in World Record Attempt in February, many owners thought the place too fast for Indy/Champ cars. Joe must have been one of those as he kept Bessie home. This 100 mile race was over in 35 minutes and 14 seconds but killed George Amick on lap 40. The last time Indy Type equipment would run there. 15 days later Joe showed up at Trenton and instead of the California Speed Shop Special it was now #33 Harden Special and would remain that way the rest of her racing life. Joe qualified 19th and finished 9th in a race that Jake Vargo’s new driver Dick Linder crashed in turn three in the Kurtis 4000 Dirt car, killing him. 1959 started out real bad two races and 3 dead.
Joe and the Harden team passed on Indy as Rookie Bob Cortner and Veteran Jerry Unser did not survive practice although the race was safe. Joe failed to qualify at the Milwaukee mile but chased Tony Bettenhausen home in the consolation race to get to start last in the May’s Century. He made it 7 laps farther than Tony as each spun in the south turn at different times.
Joe failed to qualify at Langhorne and rooted Van Johnson home to victory in the Jake Vargo Kurtis 4000 Dirt car. The next race would be a month away and a non point race at Williams Grove. Joe was there but not in Bessie but Peter Wale’s Kurtis 4000. Unfortunately on lap 3 in turn 3 Joe and Van Johnson in the Vargo car tangled and the end results were Vargo lost another driver, Joe lost a close friend, Van became the 5th driver to have driven Bessie and crashed to his death and Joe called it quits. The next time Bessie would be seen was Syracuse with John Kapustinski, “Johnny Kay” as the new driver qualified 18th and finished 18th after breaking a rod 22 laps into the race. That would be the final race of the bloody 1959 season that also saw Veteran Ed Elisian lose his life at the Milwaukee 200. 40 points and 4 attempts and 3 starts are as far as Bessie will go that season. Hopefully 1960 would be more kind that 1959.
The #33 Harden Special started the season with East Coast Veteran Len Duncan and qualified 14th but suffered some problems and came home 15th. The car was now an official East Coast car as the next race for her was Langhorne with East Coast great, Jiggs Peters in the car. Jiggs scores the only points that Bessie would get with a 12th place drive 15 laps in arrears in the race that Jimmy Bryan was lost in. Jiggs did go to the Milwaukee 200 but failed to make the show in attempt to practice on pavement, win some money and get ready for Trenton. They hung around for DuQuoin but watched the race from the infield as A.J. Foyt scored win #1. They missed the show at Syracuse but put in Ralph “The Racer” Ligouri for the Hoosier 100 but to no avail as the car and crew watched Foyt win #2. Off to Trenton with Bruce Jacobi in the car but once again no joy as they were too slow. This was a day after Bessie’s last 500 driver, Johnny Thomson died following a crash at Allentown in a Sprint Car making him the 6th driver to have driver her to die in racing. That ended the efforts for 1960 and gave the car a career total 5099 points with a new decade starting in 1961 it appeared Bessie would grow old in a garage someplace.
So a new season and Bruce Jacobi would finish 14th at Trenton and fail to make the Milwaukee show based on time. With a tragedy at the Speedway when Tony Bettenhausen was testing the Stearly Motor Freight #24 Watson Offy for Bessie’s father Paul Russo crashed becoming the 7th driver to have driven Bessie that did not survive this great sport.
Bruce ran 10th at Langhorne and scored her only points for the season finishing 82 laps when flagged with broken hood straps on the rough oiled dirt surface. Next Bruce and Bessie went to the three fair shows and missed all the races, Milwaukee, Springfield and DuQuoin. One thing that did happen was the number was changed overnight between Milwaukee and Springfield to the number that Bessie would wear the rest of her career, #58. Once again off to the Syracuse-Hoosier 100 and two more races that Bessie and Bruce were not up to. At Trenton Bruce moved out of Bessie and Ray Brown moved in and both went home as did Bessie for the rest of the season with 30 points, 2 races made out of 9 appearances. In 1962 Bruce Jacobi got back in and finished 11th at Trenton, the only points the car scored for the season as the highlight was in the first race. Ralph “the Racer” made Langhorne starting 18th and finishing in the same spot in the race that Hugh Randall relieved Elmer George who was relieving starter Bob Mathouser in the Jake Vargo Kurtis 4000 Dirt car never made it though Puke Hollow. That Kurtis got another driver. At Trenton Ralph was 25th fastest at the new 150 mile summer event and 24 start. Bill Cheesbourg failed to start and Bessie got to start her third race but the Offy went sour after 43 laps. That was it for the season and it looked like the end of the road with 5149 points for its great career. So would she grace us with an appearance in 1963?
Not until DuQuoin and Jacobi spun her out while qualifying. Too slow at the Hoosier 100 and the Trenton 200 ended her season with 3 attempts and no starts as this great lady was rapidly become a joke.[/I]

!!WALDO!!
1st March 2008, 23:45
1964 would be her 15th season in competition but she never left the garage but she would come back for a swan song in 1965. Veteran racer and former drag racing star Art Malone put her in the field at Trenton and dropped out on lap 57 in the rain shortened race. Then Bruce Jacobi missed the first pavement race held at Langhorne by being 29th fastest. The next race was the Trenton Summer 150 and a new driver, Garden Grove, California’s Gary Congdon and he was 21st fastest and brought her the most points, 45 for 10th since 1958 if her season ended now. Would you believe in the first attempt at a Road Course race would have Bessie in the starting field qualifying 21st beating 3 Roadsters and a Rear Engine Car. Too bad Gary crashed her on lap 17. The next race was a 125 at Langhorne and Gary grabbed 10th picking up 38 points so 83 for the season so far. They brought Bessie to the site of two of her wins and Gary qualified 14th finished 5 laps down and got 40 more points for 9th at the Illinois State Fairgrounds. They took her to DuQuoin and she came in 11th spinning out in turn 1 on lap 65 and then came in 2 laps down at the Hoosier 100 and finishing eleventh. So 163 points so far for 1965 and Bessie was done. She no longer showed her face at a race track.
Total Points: 5312
Total Wins: 4 wins.
500 Starts: 2

Epilogue: 28 drivers would drive this car over 15 seasons. 7 of those drivers died while that car was still competing but unfortunately there would still be more to die in racing crashes.
In 1966: Don Branson who drove her in his second Champ start was killed in a Sprint Car crash with Dick Atkins at Ascot Park in California. He became #8
In 1967: Gary Congdon was killed at the Hut 100 at Terre Haute making him #9.
In 1983: Bruce Jacobi crashed at Daytona in a 125 and suffered a brain stem injury and he died in Bloomington, IN, in 1987. Bruce was number 10
In 1988: Cal Niday while driving a Midget at a vintage event at Willow Springs in
California had a crash in a Midget that may have resulted from a heart attack but he became #11.
So 39.29% of her drivers did not survive the sport. The only one still around that can tell you about that car are Ralph Ligouri as all others have passed away or are very sick.
Where is she? I do not know but very few cars have scored as many points as she did in 15 seasons or over 354 points average per season. The car as Congdon showed was a finishing car if you let her find her own level.
Gone are cars that have history and raced against the best of its time and later gave some their first chances to compete. It is interesting only one of her drivers won the 500, Sam Hanks but many won races away from her. Like Tony Bettenhausen, Johnny Thomson, Walt Faulkner, Van Johnson, Roger McCluskey and Don Branson.
Too bad she can’t talk to tell us the technique of each driver as many of the greats sat in her and trusted her. She was a last of a kind but I am currently researching two cars built by Silnes and another built by Silnes and Sherman. All three were built for the 1951 season and a couple were still competing when the USAC Championship Trail split dirt off the circuit at the end of 1970 and scored points! The era of disposable cars left a giant void in the history of the sport.

!!WALDO!!
3rd March 2008, 20:26
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Bessie in 1954

!!WALDO!!
8th March 2008, 03:58
DONT KNOW WHO WROTE THIS BUT IT IS HILARIOUS...M
This week, his commentary is actually some darn well crafted comedy.
A.J. Foyt is holding a seance to contact some of the old guard...Jimmy Bryan, Eddie Sachs, Jud Larson, Don Branson and Bobby Marshman...filling them in on thecurrent state of affairs in open wheel racing.
Imagine a little telepathic trip to the White Front in the Sky with some of the old guard as we bring Jimmy Bryan, Eddie Sachs, Jud Larson, Don Branson and Bobby Marshman up to speed on today's racing headlines.
A.J. Foyt hosts this séance and immediately stirs up the boys.
Foyt: "To be quite truthful, I'm not sure y'all aren't in a better place considering all the stuff that's happened."
Branson: "Such as?"
Foyt: "Do you want me to start with girls in the cars or Indy qualifying or that boy from Brazil who likes to dance?"
Marshman: "Girls, you mean like Linda Vaughn?"
Foyt: "No, I mean like Danica Patrick. She led Indy a couple years ago and damn near won the race. Now she's the biggest thing we've got. Hell, she's the ONLY thing we've got."
Bryan: "Women ain't allowed in the pits."
Foyt: "That all changed in the 1970s. Then I let Janet Guthrie drive my car."
Sachs: "Wait a minute. Women can drive Indy cars and YOU gave one of them a ride?"
Foyt: "It was a favor to Mr. Hulman. Women burned their bras and got real uppity in the '70s and we had to let 'em in Gasoline Alley."
Larson: "During the day?"
Foyt: "Hell yes, I think Betty Rutherford was the first one in and now they're everywhere. They do PR, television, a few of them work on cars and we had three of 'em in this year's Indy 500."
Branson: "You mean three in Gasoline Alley?"
Foyt: "No, I mean three in the starting lineup."
Branson (signals for a double scotch): "The only way that could have happened is that there were only 33 cars."
Foyt: "You got it. And nobody gets bumped anymore, unless you count that new qualifying format where each car gets three chances every day."
Larson (chugging two beers and ordering another): "What are you talking about?
You only get three attempts with one car and the last time I tried there were 66 cars going for 33 spots. Why in hell would the Speedway do that?"
Foyt: "They're trying to get people to come back for practice and qualifying."
Marshman: "Let me get this straight. Women are strong enough to drive at Salem, Winchester, Dayton, Langhorne, DuQuoin, Springfield, Sacramento and Indy?"
Sachs: "Let me guess, they've got power steering."
Foyt: "Well, one of 'em supposedly did a couple times but so did my driver."
Branson: "You got a sprint car winner drivin' for you A.J.?"
Foyt: "Not exactly. He's from England and talks kinda funny. But he's a good road racer."
Sachs: "Jimmy Clark is still driving?"
Marshman: "Why would Indy cars be on road courses? What's wrong with Phoenix, Trenton, Langhorne?"
Bryan: "My head is spinning. You're telling us that a woman is allowed to drive an Indy car? One of them led the Indy 500? Clint Brawner wouldn't let his wife drive their passenger car. Surely he doesn't go for that."
Foyt: "No, Clint's been gone a while but he was around for Janet."
Larson: "Stop it. I'm getting depressed. What are you gonna tell us next? Drivers are hugging and kissing each other in victory lane?"
Foyt: "Oh that's happens all the time. That's nothing. Now we've got a two-time Indy winner who was on TV the other night and he was dressed in a tuxedo and he twirling some girl around and smiling and, you know, actin' like Fred
Astaire."
Sachs: "What's wrong with that?"
Branson: "Shut up Eddie. Now listen Foyt, I've listened to about all the B.S. I can. What are you talking about? We were all gunfighters. We didn't dance, we worked on cars, we fought, we drank, we went down the road and we raced. What would make a man do something like that?"
Foyt: "Well, like I said, we got a lot of momma's boys in racin' today. This Castranever is a furriner and I always thought he was a little light on his feet anyway and way too happy. But I guess he's dancing to help our TV ratings 'cause they pretty much suck anymore."
Marshman: "People don't watch Indy cars?"
Foyt: "They're all watching NASCAR."
Larson: "That makes no sense. Stock cars are slow and boring compared to Indy cars. Hell, USAC has a better stock car division."
Foyt: "Not anymore. It went away. Just like the dirt cars from the Champ Car schedule."
Sachs: "Well if they don't run on the dirt anymore, how do USAC guys make a living?"
Foyt: "They go to NASCAR."
Branson: "That's enough. No more. You're telling us that women drive Indy cars, the Indy 500 is no big deal, stock cars are the most popular form of racing and there's a two-time Indy winner hopping around a stage on national television like Arthur Murray?"
Bryan: "Leave me in the ground."
Larson: "Same here."
Marshman: "Ditto."
Sachs: "You know, I marched with the Gordon Pipers every May and I played piano at the White Front so I don't see anything wrong with a guy who wants to do a little dancing."
Foyt: "That's why Parnelli socked you in the eye."

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Wilf
8th March 2008, 23:36
D@mn Waldo - you've got too much time on your hands. But for God's sake don't stop with your posts; they are great!

!!WALDO!!
8th March 2008, 23:45
D@mn Waldo - you've got too much time on your hands. But for God's sake don't stop with your posts; they are great!


Be careful there are those that hate me so you may put a bullseye on your back. I am busy finishing up research on the Silnes built cars.

The pictures here are the cars I asked my questions in the The Trivia thread.

nigelred5
9th March 2008, 14:11
Naa, we don't hate you, we just don't agree with your weather prognostication ideas for australia ;)

Some people just forget that this is the real American open wheel history and tradition they cried for for the last 12 years :)

!!WALDO!!
9th March 2008, 18:34
Naa, we don't hate you, we just don't agree with your weather prognostication ideas for australia ;)

This coming from someone that claims January is the same there as here. You never learned the difference between the northern and southern hemisphere. Which way do the toliets flush down there clockwise or counter clockwise.


Some people just forget that this is the real American open wheel history and tradition they cried for for the last 12 years :)

Mature people did not cry. I didn't get too upset when a bunch of car owners thumbed their noses at "tradition". We didn't cry when they took racing and put it in the streets and throw "tradition" out the window. How about leaving places like Trenton, the August Milwaukee date, the November PIR date all that had more "tradition" than a race half way around the world.

No the new "tradition" is the series will end on an oval in the Midwest portion of the United States. So either Australia gets moved to its Summer Season or dump it.

Another tradition.

BTW: This thread is real history, maybe you should read it.

!!WALDO!!
14th March 2008, 21:59
In my off time I will be writing about the 1968 season. The greatest season the Champ cars ever raced in with many winners, live TV for the first time, road course races at Las Vegas, Mosport, Castle Rock, IRP, St Jovite and Riverside, 9 total races. Mile paved shows at Milwaukee, Langhorne, Trenton, Phoenix, 9 total, Super Speedways, Hanford, Indianapolis, MIS for 4 races, Dirt racing at Nazareth, Springfield, DuQuoin, ISF and Sacramento for 5 races and the race to the clouds, Pike's Peak. 28 races the biggest season since 1915 and 15 races more than 1964. 1250 miles on the Roadcourses, 1400 on the miles, 1200 on the supers and 500 in the dirt plus 12.5 up a mountain. 4362.50 miles of Great Championship racing.

I do hope you will enjoy as a lot of these races I saw and kept a score sheet on that year from results in NSSN. I have been working on this for 8 years.

History is a tough thing but this season I would love to see again.