Official 2007 Rallye Monte Carlo thread

[Josti]

Ok, only 5 days left till the new season kicks off at Monte Carlo. Let's start the talking :up:

[DonJippo]

Any snow on stages?

[Simmi]

Hopefully someone can get down to the service park and get us a few early photos like last year. Am I right in thinking the Shakedown is still on the Thursday morning with the first stages being run in the evening? If so they (Petter) need to be cautious.

[A.F.F.]

I'm waiting for snowy, thrilling rally which hopefully offer wider competition than just Marcus vs. Sebastien. Interested to see if Petter can fight against them. Also, how our boys Mikko, Jari-Matti and Toni will do :)

[MJW]

From what I heared no snow on the stages.

[FrankenSchwinn]

according to Gap's website (the town, not the stupid clothes) then the weather will not be good for snow unless it's more north in france moutains. 7C is announced for wednesday during the day.

[Tom206wrc]

Sorry, despite living in France I'm far from MC(I'm living in paris) and can't help you ;(

[Xeroid]

Any webcams available in the Service Park or elsewhere ?

[traxx]

There is no snow and it's hot for a winter :(
All the links to prepare to go to MC :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2007/01/14/269-preparer-son-monte-carlo

[A.F.F.]

It's gonna be Seb's playground then.

[Janne]

From what I heared no snow on the stages.

Pleased with that, i hate snow and frost ...

My first Monte, and I'm excited !

[FrankenSchwinn]

i hate snow and frost ...

dude, uh, you live in finland...... how can you hate snow and ice and live in finland?

[Tomi]

Sorry, despite living in France I'm far from MC(I'm living in paris) and can't help you ;(

Tom, you should show some spirit and tomorrow morning drive to Monaco and check out the stages.

[Xeroid]

dude, uh, you live in finland...... how can you hate snow and ice and live in finland?

THATS WHY he doesn't like snow and ice ...he lives in Finland....LOL

[GigiGalliNo1]

any night time stages?

[FrankenSchwinn]

THATS WHY he doesn't like snow and ice ...he lives in Finland....LOL

oh, i wasnt questioning where his reasoning comes from, merely how he survives it! :p :

[animrallye]

Tom, you should show some spirit and tomorrow morning drive to Monaco and check out the stages.
I live in Monaco, and the nearest stage is 400 km away from here !
Today and tomorrow, temperatures around 10°C in the stages, no rain and no snow :rolleyes:

[MJW]

Dry ashpahlt - probably good for Ford. Marcus likes snow, his least favourite surface is wet (inconsistent) asphalt.

[Donney]

As usual I'm all excited for the start of the new season with all the new cars improvements and so on.

I really want to see what happens with the new Subaru and how the C4 compares with the Xsara.

I hope there are no spectator issues as previous years.

Can't wait, can't wait!!!!

[ATF]

Has anyone got a link to the entry list please?

[Simmi]

http://www.acm.mc/ramc/2007/pdf/liste_engages_2007.pdf

[Janne]

THATS WHY he doesn't like snow and ice ...he lives in Finland....LOL

Exactly !

Will be interesting to see how dominant C4 / Loeb will be on dry stages

[JAM]

I'm curious to see how much will be the Loeb advantage over Gronholm. Will be in seconds or in minutes?

[Sulland]

Will be interesting to se the Solberg-klan in action

Petter with same tyres as the rest for the first time. Can only make excuses for tyres one more time - since this is the debut with them.

Henning in a competitive car for the first time. Will be interesting to see him on asfalt !!

Looking forward, even if I do not like Monte Carlo as a rally.

[Simmi]

Im afraid that after these two night stages Loeb will have another 30 second lead.

[Donney]

I hope not, things have to change.

[Tom206wrc]

Dry ashpahlt - probably good for Ford. Marcus likes snow, his least favourite surface is wet (inconsistent) asphalt.



You mean it's good for Citroën(at least Xsara) rather, no ??? :p :

[White Sauron]

Im afraid that after these two night stages Loeb will have another 30 second lead.

I wouldn't be so sure ;)

[FabiaFan]

I live in Monaco, and the nearest stage is 400 km away from here !
:rolleyes: Should we still really call it Rallye "Monte Carlo" then?!?!?

[animrallye]

Should we still really call it Rallye "Monte Carlo" then?!?!?
:up: :p
Heavy smog during the recce this morning !

[Tom206wrc]

Terrible !!! I feel already too big gaps after SS1 and 2 on thursday evening !! :s

[peterpz]

Some pics? :)

[cosmicpanda]

Should we still really call it Rallye "Monte Carlo" then?!?!?

It'd be quite difficult to hold the entire rally in Monaco, I think. And it's using classic stages, not entirely new ones. So why not call it "Monte Carlo"?

[Tom206wrc]

Has shakedown started this morning ??? :confused:

[White Sauron]

Has shakedown started this morning ??? :confused:

Today is wednesday. Shakedown is on Thursday morning, from 8 till 12.

[Mickey T]

calm down. the subaru boys are not in the new car yet.

[jonkka]

Should we still really call it Rallye "Monte Carlo" then?!?!?

On the basis that there aren't any stages run in principality itself? In fact, this year is the first since 1997 that there is one but before that, no WRC edition of the event has had one. There simply isn't room in the tiny nation of MC for that. It really is "Rally of Southern France" but then again, who cares and besides, Wales Rally GB could as well drop the "GB" part if we go down that avenue. :eek:

[miksu]

On the basis that there aren't any stages run in principality itself? In fact, this year is the first since 1997 that there is one but before that, no WRC edition of the event has had one. There simply isn't room in the tiny nation of MC for that. It really is "Rally of Southern France" but then again, who cares and besides, Wales Rally GB could as well drop the "GB" part if we go down that avenue. :eek:

Wales is in GB...

[White Sauron]

What's the problem San Marino Garn Prix is held not in rep.San Marino too!

[FabiaFan]

What's the problem San Marino Garn Prix is held not in rep.San Marino too!
This is what I also dislike - it is just an instrument how to get more events into one country - as well as different GPs of Europe... I wonder when we will see GP of Lichtenstein or Vatican...

[DonJippo]

calm down. the subaru boys are not in the new car yet.

No not until Mexico...

[GigiGalliNo1]

Anyone else got WRC+ like me this year? :) Just subscribed!

WRC.com

"In a plan to grow the showcasing of exciting superspecial stages of the FIA World Rally Championship, fans can expect up to 15 hours of live broadcast coverage during 2007 on WRC.com.

First on the agenda is Rally Automobile Monte Carlo, which will host a superspecial stage around the harbour area of Monaco's Formula 1 circuit on Sunday, the rally's final day. The stage will be broadcast live on WRC+ at 09.30 - 10.30 local time (08.30 - 09.30 GMT) and can be followed live on World Rally Radio."

[jonkka]

Wales is in GB...

It is. But Wales is not GB.

[V.Gatev]

Hi, any info about A7 Renault Clio's? Are they old Clio or new R3? Thank you. :)

[FabiaFan]

Hi, any info about A7 Renault Clio's? Are they old Clio or new R3? Thank you. :)
R3 would be N3 then??

[Viking]

Pictures of Henning`s Monte car on his blogg :up:
http://www.vgb.no/6339
You can also see the Latvala and Wilson cars in the back, they seems to be running in Stobart livery (like last year).

[LP]

no service park pictures yet?

[animrallye]

Still no snow... High temperatures !
Here's a link to weather forecast on stages zone :
http://www.meteofrance.com/FR/mameteo/prevDept.jsp?LIEUID=DEPT26

[V.Gatev]

No, this season R3 cars will race in A7 Class. From Season 2008 FIA will create Group R - R1,R2,R3 and R4.

[White Sauron]

Here're some photos from the service-park:

http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/theme38/sujet376335-980.htm

[dot-niek]

The new BP Ford Livery is awesome!!

[peterpz]

The new BP Ford Livery is awesome!!
It is very nice, but almost the same like in 2006 :)

[dot-niek]

It is very nice, but almost the same like in 2006 :)

almost ;)

[jacko]

Let's bring MC on !!

[miksu]

apparently its gonna be a very fast rally, at least couple of stages! Jarmo Lehtinen said, that on stage 1 and stage on 10, there has been average speeds more than 120 km/h, and thats long time ago with Lancia and Celica :P

Gardemeister said stage 10 can be even dangerous if its wet, because of the new asphalt. Also Timo Rautiainen said if there was snow on stage 10, it would be horrible...
hehe, quite a rally coming up, huh?

[Donney]

I love the Expert and BP liveries. :up:

[Tom206wrc]

Manfred Stohl's ex-whale is present(in its 2006 livery) !!! :p :

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/49660/peugeot%20mc%202007%20val%2001.jpg


It's swiss gentleman-driver Philippe Roux who will drive it on 2007 Monte-Carlo ;)

[Simmi]

Has Matt Wilson hit another car before/during/after the reece? Anyone got the details?

[Jaanus]

Yes he did, there is a photo of his crashed Volvo recce car:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7771/scan10002pm1.jpg

[Josti]

Will he compete anyway? Not a good feeling to start the season like this I would think :\

[Jaanus]

Yes Matt will compete and he has no serious injuries. Volvo is very a safe car.

[quicksilver]

Could anyone translate for those of us who don't speak French please? what actually happened?

[Tom206wrc]

Apparently he suddenly wanted to drive on the left as he used to do in UK... :confused:

[Donney]

Basically coming out of a bend he was on the wrong side of the road and the coming car could not do anything to avoid Wilson. Luckily both drivers are OK and Wison will be able to start the rally.


It seems Ford are having a bit of a nightmare with their recces. What happened with that weird incident at rally GB, anyone knows?

[White Sauron]

It seems Ford are having a bit of a nightmare with their recces. What happened with that weird incident at rally GB, anyone knows?


Nothing ;)

Once again make sure Wilson-jr is a svcker...

[quicksilver]

Basically coming out of a bend he was on the wrong side of the road and the coming car could not do anything to avoid Wilson. Luckily both drivers are OK and Wison will be able to start the rally.


Thanks :up:

[Janne]

apparently its gonna be a very fast rally, at least couple of stages! Jarmo Lehtinen said, that on stage 1 and stage on 10, there has been average speeds more than 120 km/h, and thats long time ago with Lancia and Celica :P

Gardemeister said stage 10 can be even dangerous if its wet, because of the new asphalt. Also Timo Rautiainen said if there was snow on stage 10, it would be horrible...
hehe, quite a rally coming up, huh?


I'll try to find time to drive through that SS10, we'll miss tomorrow because of travelling.

[Halvis]

Just saw an interview with Henning Solberg and Bosse on norwegian TV, Henning saying that he can learn much from Marcus. When Marcus was asked what he could teach Henning, he responded with one of his usual dry, funny answers - "Henning knows how to drive a car, the throttle is to the left, and the breaks in the middle." Pretty funny!

On a serious note, Henning said that he would be satisfied with a point, he's unfamiliar with the car (tested just once) and with tarmac rallies (just driven once in WRC).

[MJW]

recce pictures available on rallye-live.com

[Slipzen]

http://www.acm.mc/ramc/2007/pdf/liste_engages_2007.pdf

Are there any known cancellations from the Entry List? I think that Duval is out. Is that correct?

[Wim_Impreza]

Yes, you are correct.

[Slipzen]

What do you think about the drivers just below the top. Will Couq be faster that Roux and Romeyer? What about Boland vs MacHale vs Wilson? Will Henning be able to beat Atkinson?

[peterpz]

almost ;)
Yes, because I wanted bigger changes in Ford livery for this season. My favourite livery:
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6408/diapo415it8.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diapo415it8.jpg)

[Simmi]

Nice Burger King sponsorship on the Pons car. They could make a great livery if they had more time.

http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo093hb2.jpg

[Priorat]

I've driven SS10 this morning. Very narrow and completely wet. I think that worst than the snow would be temperatures dropping a lot beacause the whole SS would be on verglass (black ice) conditions, so almost impossible not to make any mistake. The scenary around the road is awesome, very beautiful so, a nice stage to watch.

[scooby girl]

Eurosport2 will be showing the super special stage live sunday morning.

[Simmi]

What is the white circle with the smaller red one inside it for? Its always on the back of the cars on the Monte.

[FabiaFan]

What do you think about the drivers just below the top. Will Couq be faster that Roux and Romeyer? What about Boland vs MacHale vs Wilson? Will Henning be able to beat Atkinson?
I would say:
1. You cannot compare Cuoq (real rally driver) with Roux; about Romeyer no idea
2. Similar (but on a lower level on tarmac) MacHale vs. Boland
3. Anytime and anywhere in Europe

[Woodeye]

Nice Burger King sponsorship on the Pons car. They could make a great livery if they had more time.

http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo093hb2.jpg

You think that looks great? One sticker glued at the end of the car. Amazing... :rolleyes:

[Woodeye]

In Finnish media it was reported today that Marcus Grönholm had a secret test with F1 -driver Heikki Kovalainen while preparing to Monte Carlo.

Grönholm said that it was a really good and helpfull to see how Heikki drove in tarmac. He said that he learned a lot during that test.

[GigiGalliNo1]

You think that looks great? One sticker glued at the end of the car. Amazing... :rolleyes:

Looks delicious!!

[Timole]

You think that looks great? One sticker glued at the end of the car. Amazing... :rolleyes:

I have to agree with woodeye. I think the red lancer would be much nicer without the burger king sticker on int.

[Zamppa]

In Finnish media it was reported today that Marcus Grönholm had a secret test with F1 -driver Heikki Kovalainen while preparing to Monte Carlo.

Grönholm said that it was a really good and helpfull to see how Heikki drove in tarmac. He said that he learned a lot during that test.

So it was Heikki, that mysterious tarmac driving teacher Marcus mentioned and refused to name few weeks ago. That's a surprise.

Hope it worked, though.

[J.Lindstroem]

When does the Shakedown start?

Can't wait!!!

[Tom206wrc]

What do you think about the drivers just below the top. Will Couq be faster that Roux and Romeyer? What about Boland vs MacHale vs Wilson? Will Henning be able to beat Atkinson?



No doubt at all that Jean-Marie Cuoq WILL be faster than Roux and Romeyer :laugh:

[White Sauron]

When does the Shakedown start?

Can't wait!!!

At 8am Monte time... By the way, what is the time difference between Monte and Moscow, anybody knows?(( it's either 3 or 4 hours...

[White Sauron]

At 8am Monte time... By the way, what is the time difference between Monte and Moscow, anybody knows?(( it's either 3 or 4 hours...

Or between Monte and Finland... I'll plus 1 hour then. Damn, strange, live just 100 with some kilometres from Finland, but 1 hour futher...

[J.Lindstroem]

Monte and Finland must be +2 i assume...

[FabiaFan]

At 8am Monte time... By the way, what is the time difference between Monte and Moscow, anybody knows?(( it's either 3 or 4 hours...
Just two, just two...

[FabiaFan]

Monte and Finland must be +2 i assume...1

[FabiaFan]

So it's time for some results...

[cosmicpanda]

aren't they almost 10 hours away? I'm going to sleep first :p :

[FabiaFan]

aren't they almost 10 hours away? I'm going to sleep first :p : Shakedown ... I ment ... started 2 hours ago for the top drivers M1+M2 ...

[Simmi]

You think that looks great? One sticker glued at the end of the car. Amazing... :rolleyes:

No it doesnt look great at all it looks boring. What I meant is its nice to see some Burger King sponsorship on a car, before then going on to say they could make a great livery if they had more to time to sort one out.

[animrallye]

What is the white circle with the smaller red one inside it for? Its always on the back of the cars on the Monte.
It means tyres are with studs (french law...)
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/614/10571mi6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[MHjerpe]

Seems like the Shake is canceled.. :( only few runs trough it was made..

[306 Cosworth]

2. Similar (but on a lower level on tarmac) MacHale vs. Boland



Lower level of Tarmac my arse, Irish Tarmac championship is the biggest championship in the world apart from the WRC. Also Irish Tar is the trickiest in the world as you will all find out in November ;)

[animrallye]

Yes, on Rally-Live in French, they say that Shakedown as been stopped du to the amount of spectators :dozey:

[J.Lindstroem]

Hm, This is starting good i have to say! Cancelled.....pfft

[306 Cosworth]

You think that looks great? One sticker glued at the end of the car. Amazing... :rolleyes:



Did you not read it properly? It said they could make it look great, not it does.

[306 Cosworth]

Yes, on Rally-Live in French, they say that Shakedown as been stopped du to the amount of spectators :dozey:

Monte Carlo should be dropped if this keep happening!

[Iskald]

Monte Carlo should be dropped if this keep happening!

I have said that for a long time. The rally is a dinosaur in this age and time and should be dropped. Tradition and history is well enough, but Monte has survived itself. Lets just make a bet how many stages will be cancelled tomorrow? 2, 3 or 4? It`s just a matter of numbers - and it won`t give great odds to predict that some hassle surely will occur. Agan...

[J.Lindstroem]

Monte Carlo should be dropped if this keep happening!

Yes i completley agree. Monte Carlo has had this problem for many years now, and FIA keeps the rally because of its status, Monte Carlo has been in the calendar for quite a while now. Its a classic event. But if they cant solve and get rid of this problem, i think they have to consider throwing it out from the calendar!

[turves]

and bring back the Safari...

[animrallye]

and bring back the Safari...
Sure that Safari won't have this kind of problems !

[turves]

I dont know for sure but I cant see that it would. The problem, as far as I can tell, with the Monte is that there is a minimal number of routes up to a stage, meaning masses of traffic, and once you get there you have to be pretty much right next to the track, as there is nowhere else to stand. From what Ive seen of the Safari its big wide open spaces.

Ive never been to either, I'm just going on what I've seen on the TV!

[PetrWRC]

Can somebody translate this text please?

"Le retour du rallye de Monte-Carlo sur les routes ardéchoises, après dix ans d'absence, est un évènement pour tous les passionnés de l'épreuve et de la discipline.

Les spectateurs sont nombreux à affluer autour de Valence et aux abords des spéciales, ce qui a contraint les organisateurs à annuler le shakedown. Celui-ci aurait dû se dérouler entre les communes de Mauves et Plats (sur la D219, à proximité de Tournon), de 9h à 12h.

L'afflux du public et le désordre qu'il provoque laisse à craindre de nouveaux contre-temps dans le déroulement du rallye. On redoute en effet une présence trop importante de spectateurs sur les spéciales."

Thanks

[turves]

I see WRC.com are leading the way with their upto-the-minute reporting again

[FabiaFan]

Lower level of Tarmac my arse, Irish Tarmac championship is the biggest championship in the world apart from the WRC. Also Irish Tar is the trickiest in the world as you will all find out in November ;)
Ok, I don't follow the Irish one, but i am well aware of the French one and believe me - however Cuoq is definitely not a tarmac specialist like Bengue for example, he will be miles ahead of MacHale...

[306 Cosworth]

How about a nice gravel rally to start off the year next year, or drop MC for Ireland ;)

[animrallye]

Can somebody translate this text please?

"Le retour du rallye de Monte-Carlo sur les routes ardéchoises, après dix ans d'absence, est un évènement pour tous les passionnés de l'épreuve et de la discipline.

Les spectateurs sont nombreux à affluer autour de Valence et aux abords des spéciales, ce qui a contraint les organisateurs à annuler le shakedown. Celui-ci aurait dû se dérouler entre les communes de Mauves et Plats (sur la D219, à proximité de Tournon), de 9h à 12h.

L'afflux du public et le désordre qu'il provoque laisse à craindre de nouveaux contre-temps dans le déroulement du rallye. On redoute en effet une présence trop importante de spectateurs sur les spéciales."

Thanks
The return of MC Rally on Ardèche's roads after 10 years is a great event for all passionates.
A lot of spectators had arrived in Valence and around stages. The organisators had to cancel the Shake down...
The huge crowd and the mess on the roads may create new problems during the rally...

[turves]

it doesn't bode well for the weekend does it...

[Donney]

Can somebody translate this text please?

"Le retour du rallye de Monte-Carlo sur les routes ardéchoises, après dix ans d'absence, est un évènement pour tous les passionnés de l'épreuve et de la discipline.

Les spectateurs sont nombreux à affluer autour de Valence et aux abords des spéciales, ce qui a contraint les organisateurs à annuler le shakedown. Celui-ci aurait dû se dérouler entre les communes de Mauves et Plats (sur la D219, à proximité de Tournon), de 9h à 12h.

L'afflux du public et le désordre qu'il provoque laisse à craindre de nouveaux contre-temps dans le déroulement du rallye. On redoute en effet une présence trop importante de spectateurs sur les spéciales."

Thanks

"The return of the Montecarlo Rally to the roads of Ardeche, after 10 yearas of absence, it an event for all the fans of the rally and the discipline.

The affluence of spectators around Valence and on the stages has forced the organization to supress the shakedown. Which will take place between Mauves and Plats (on the D129 near Tournon) from 9 to 12.

The affluence of public and the dissorder it creates has caused the arise of new fears of incidents along the Rally. A very important presence of spectators on the stages is expected and feared by the organization"


Not perfect but you get the idea.

[PetrWRC]

animrallye & Donney - thanks for translate 8-)

[1LM1]

My bet: one of the two stages of tonight will be cancelled. I can't imagine how many people will try to attend the stages of tonight. It will be huge I think.

[DonJippo]

The huge crowd and the mess on the roads may create new problems during the rally...

What a surprise... :dozey:

[gorgor_bay]

Droping the only winter tarmac event would be a real mistake imo

[MJW]

Droping the only winter tarmac event would be a real mistake imo
Move Corsica to winter.

[turves]

I dont know if theres any snow on the Monte at the moment, but if not, then I imagine conditions in Ireland in November are going to be pretty similar.

[Tom206wrc]

Yes i completley agree. Monte Carlo has had this problem for many years now, and FIA keeps the rally because of its status, Monte Carlo has been in the calendar for quite a while now. Its a classic event. But if they cant solve and get rid of this problem, i think they have to consider throwing it out from the calendar!




And Kenya/Safari was a long time tradition in world rallying and that didn't prevent Mr Mosley and Richards to get rid off this event !! How weired behaviour !! :mad: :mad:

[Halvis]

Most drivers got 2-3 passes before it was cancelled. Anyone with times, from any sources?

[Tom206wrc]

Droping the only winter tarmac event would be a real mistake imo




Kenya was the lonely african event of WRC too... :rolleyes:

[turves]

from Rally Live (English)

The World Rally Championship pull in many fans, but this morning in Mauves, the rally was something a victim of its own success.

"Following the decision of the FIA delegate, and due to the abundance of spectators in the lower part of the roads, we have had no option but to cancel the shakedown," read a statement.

"In order to prevent similar cancellations of future events, we recommend that spectators follow scrupulously the advice given either by the security marshals or by any member of the organisation.
"

The official start of the Monte Carlo Rally takes place this evening at Champ de Mars gardens followed by two night stages in the Vercors.

[animrallye]

I dont know if theres any snow on the Monte at the moment, but if not, then I imagine conditions in Ireland in November are going to be pretty similar.
No snow ! Temperatures are around 9°C in the morning and the evening, 11°C at 1 PM...
Snow may fall on Sunday on the real stages... When cars will be in Monte-Carlo for the Mickey Mouse Stage !
Sorry, for me a SSS is a MMS

[VM]

Droping the only winter tarmac event would be a real mistake imo

I agree. Rally Monte-Carlo is one of my favourite events in calendar. I think it must stay in WRC in any case. We have too many gravel rallies in the championship and not so many on tarmac.

[miksu]

I agree. Rally Monte-Carlo is one of my favourite events in calendar. I think it must stay in WRC in any case. We have too many gravel rallies in the championship and not so many on tarmac.

i almost choked to my milk

[turves]

Sorry, for me a SSS is a MMS

Same here

[Brother John]

So we will have a annoying weekend!

:andrea: I have to keep my big mouth shut here about the French :blackeye: :laugh:

[N.O.T]

Nice to see that Rally is very popular....but to cancel the SD is a bit ridiculous....

[animrallye]

So we will have a annoying weekend!

:andrea: I have to keep my big mouth shut here about the French :blackeye: :laugh:
I think so :D http://yelims2.free.fr/Feu/Feu03.gif

[J.Lindstroem]

I agree. Rally Monte-Carlo is one of my favourite events in calendar. I think it must stay in WRC in any case. We have too many gravel rallies in the championship and not so many on tarmac.

For me, rallying is at its best when it is on gravel!

[AndyRAC]

Same here

Agree, but why didn't they run the full GP circuit, reversed, and in the dark.

Also Rallye Monte Carlo with no Col de Turini, mmmm,....


.....Not good!!!

[turves]

Agree, but why didn't they run the full GP circuit, reversed, and in the dark.

Your guess is as good as mine...

[J.Lindstroem]

Also Rallye Monte Carlo with no Col de Turini, mmmm,....

Yes, Monte Carlo is not as it used to be...

[Rollover]

Shakedown results (unofficial): 1. Hirvonen 2. Grönholm and Loeb -0,1 sec 4. Stohl -0,8 5. P.Solberg´-2,1...

[Timole]

Shakedown results (unofficial): 1. Hirvonen 2. Grönholm and Loeb -0,1 sec 4. Stohl -0,8 5. P.Solberg´-2,1...

Latvala´s time?

[White Sauron]

Just two, just two...

Thanks!

[DonJippo]

So we will have a annoying weekend!

:andrea: I have to keep my big mouth shut here about the French :blackeye: :laugh:

Just keep the cork on the bottle and there will be no worries :D

[Christina]

Does anyone have any pictures from the service park? I'm interested to see the new liveries of some of the privateers and such..

[Le NaRcX]

A lot of photos here:

http://www.forocompeticion.com/foro/index.php?topic=424.90

http://www.forocoches.com/foro/showthread.php?p=14639067#post14639067

[animrallye]

Some pictures of the Shakedown from a french forum :


http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7136/citroen1ao5.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8168/citroen2pb6.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3810/elenabi1.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/971/ford1hn6.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7693/ford2pz0.jpg
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4747/ford3qu0.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6288/mitsu1fv5.jpg
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9716/sub1ly9.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8726/sub2px9.jpg
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/3033/sub3nt9.jpg

[miksu]

crazy french people...

[animrallye]

crazy french people...
Stop it :mad:
Do you think there're only french fans on the stages ?
Don't you remember what you Finns tells about Estonians fans during Rally Finland ?
Monte-Carlo Rally's problem is not a french problem but the lot of fans coming from all europe and other countries.

[miksu]

Stop it :mad:
Do you think there're only french fans on the stages ?
Don't you remember what you Finns tells about Estonians fans during Rally Finland ?
Monte-Carlo Rally's problem is not a french problem but the lot of fans coming from all europe and other countries.

cool it... sorry for my narrow minded comment. correction, crazy spectators

[animrallye]

cool it... correction, crazy spectators
:)
15 000 spectators had been on 5 km stage during Shakedown...
So you can understand the problem ;)

Other pictures from SD (French Forum)
http://images.imagehotel.net/?4fbe3e7fc6.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?1e72dad674.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?6e86f8f219.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?0f06bddfc9.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?899ec0db87.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?5b8432ab51.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?1a751bf80e.jpg

[Mauri A]

cool it... sorry for my narrow minded comment. correction, crazy spectators
BTW, in the seventies in the 1000 Lakes Rally we had to move away from Tampere surroundings because of the grazy Finnish spectators!

[Tom206wrc]

And Jean-Marie Cuoq wasn't able to do a single SD run because of what happened ;(

[miksu]

:)

Other pictures from SD (French Forum)



could you post a link for the forum, as it seems to be a good source for pics?

[Brother John]

:)
15 000 spectators had been on 5 km stage during Shakedown...
So you can understand the problem ;)

Other pictures from SD (French Forum)
http://images.imagehotel.net/?4fbe3e7fc6.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?1e72dad674.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?6e86f8f219.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?0f06bddfc9.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?899ec0db87.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?5b8432ab51.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?1a751bf80e.jpg

Same pictures as on previus post! :confused:

[René]

could you post a link for the forum, as it seems to be a good source for pics?

http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/theme38/sujet376335-1225.htm

[miksu]

http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/theme38/sujet376335-1225.htm

thanks! :)

[Simmi]

And Jean-Marie Cuoq wasn't able to do a single SD run because of what happened ;(

Awww Tom dont worry. Here's a picture to cheer you up. Might be on a road section?

http://www.rally-live.com/wrc/photos/2007/montecarlo/diapo_050.jpg

[bennizw]

Something tells me that the french forum is slightly more active than we are around the Monte. They've already reached page nr 36! :p :

[White Sauron]

I don't know what to await from Citroen... As Ford' fan I'm very afraid now... Of course, I'm confident in my team, in Marcus and Mikko, but... Maybe Loeb and Freelin are just lying? What if the C4 is fast like a rocket? What if it can blow the competition away? What if it's again from another level? So many ifs...

[miksu]

Marcus:

"Shakedown was difficult. The road was so slimy, wet and slippery, but we had a clear reason for that. Back of the car wasnt like it was supposed to be, but the times were good."

[René]

Something tells me that the french forum is slightly more active than we are around the Monte. They've already reached page nr 36! :p :

:D yes but we start to post the 04 april 2006 !

[GigiGalliNo1]

Gosh I wish i was in Monte right now!! arggg

See that's how a rally is ment to be, not so many people tho to make it canceled but to have that much access on a stage, standing near or on he road!! Not like in Aus 10m's away for safety. But anyways good luck to your fav drivers guys!

[White Sauron]

Marcus:

"Shakedown was difficult. The road was so slimy, wet and slippery, but we had a clear reason for that. Back of the car wasnt like it was supposed to be, but the times were good."

Where did you get it?

[satukata]

hope no more promblems with spectators

[bennizw]

:D yes but we start to post the 04 april 2006 !

Haha, good to see patriots for their own home rally. Let's hope it turns out well! Looking forward to see the speed of the C4 through the first stages tonight.

[satukata]

More shakedown times. Top drivers drove 2-3 times. so it looks like battle Ford againts Citroen as expected. Hope Petter can find little more speed and fight for podium!

1. Mikko Hirvonen Ford 3.24,8
2. Sebastien Loeb Citroen 3.24,9
3. Marcus Grönholm Ford 3.24,9
4. Manfred Stohl Citroen 3.25,6
5. Petter Solberg Subaru 3.26,9
2 more times i have
..Jari-Matti Latvala Ford 3.30,3
..Toni Gardemeister Mitsubishi 3.34,5.

[DonJippo]

See that's how a rally is ment to be, not so many people tho to make it canceled but to have that much access on a stage, standing near or on he road!! Not like in Aus 10m's away for safety. But anyways good luck to your fav drivers guys!

That's one of the most stupid comments for a very long time on this forum.

[J4MIE]

When does SS1 start?

[Erki]

Timetable anyone?

[René]

That is the official timing but? we never know



# 19:16 - SS1 - ST JEAN EN ROYANS - COL DE LACHAU - 28,52 km
# 20:06 - SS2 - LA CIME DU MAS - COL DE GAUDISSART - 17,88 km

[bennizw]

19:15 Norwegian time I've heard, which will mean 18:15 for you J4mie :)

[GigiGalliNo1]

Er, but i mean like back when you watch, or who ever was in the Era of Group B, you see spectators standing on the roads, in Greece or Finland or the UK and they run out of the way of the rally car, well I know it's not safe and I know it's stupid to say, and having too many people is bad, but you should enjoy the rally at a safe distance but not be forced to stand a great deal away from watching. I hope Daniel doesn't get into this, I've heard it before so I don't want to argue.

Set your time to GMT+1 on your computer!

[White Sauron]

Timetable anyone?

It starts in 1 hour, 13 minutes, at 7:16pm. local time

All time table is here:

http://live.bfgoodrich.com/~bfg/WRC_2007_R1/raceclas.php

[Donney]

Can't wait, can't wait. Wiil we have pleasure to enjoy rally radio?


Oh, and by the way let me be the first to ask:

"Can you give me the link to the estonian splits page? :p :

[Erki]

Oh damn. I had understood that it's 19.16 in my time(GMT+2). Oh well..

[White Sauron]

Can't wait, can't wait. Wiil we have pleasure to enjoy rally radio?


Oh, and by the way let me be the first to ask:

"Can you give me the link to the estonian splits page? :p :

http://www.nuclear.pri.ee/rally/index.php

[White Sauron]

But I suppose the first stage we won't see any split times... it's such a strategy of orginizers. So that the first results would be a shock for as...

[aivan]

Oh, and by the way let me be the first to ask:

"Can you give me the link to the estonian splits page? :p :

Mark... I suggest having a smiley script (in the lines of : splits : ) that returns the famous "Can anyone give me the link to the estonian splits page?" question. :D

Anyone voting in favor?

Can't wait... a new season is here!!!! :bounce:

VAMOS DANI!!!!!

[Timole]

Can't wait, can't wait. Wiil we have pleasure to enjoy rally radio?


Oh, and by the way let me be the first to ask:

"Can you give me the link to the estonian splits page? :p :
Here you are - http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/.

[Mauri A]

That's one of the most stupid comments for a very long time on this forum.
I fully agree! In my time as 1000 Lakes Rally Managing Director I sat two inches above my chair for three days waiting for bad news from the stages!
Fortunately it happened only two times.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Ah forget about it.

[Mauri A]

Ah forget about it.
O.K. Forgotten for ever!

[White Sauron]

Great news! Loeb isn't happy with oversteer too!!!

[drewbud]

Shouldn't we be under way?

[miksu]

Where did you get it?

its in finnish...http://www.mtv3.fi

[White Sauron]

its in finnish...http://www.mtv3.fi

no problem for me ;)

kiitos informaatiosta!

[Simmi]

Does the road order go Loeb/Sordo/Bosse or is it based on last years championship?

[Jaanus]

Does the road order go Loeb/Sordo/Bosse or is it based on last years championship?

It's based on last years championship. Loeb, Grönholm, Hirvonen...

[Simmi]

Thank you as always Jaanus. If I was on Who Wants to be a Millionaire and there was a question about rallying I didnt know...I would ring you!

[animrallye]

Mark... I suggest having a smiley script (in the lines of : splits : ) that returns the famous "Can anyone give me the link to the estonian splits page?" question. :D

Anyone voting in favor?

Can't wait... a new season is here!!!! :bounce:

:up: :up: :p

[René]

Shakedown result

1. Mikko Hirvonen Ford 3.24,8
2. Sebastien Loeb Citroen 3.24,9
3. Marcus Grönholm Ford 3.24,9
4. Manfred Stohl Citroen 3.25,6
5. Petter Solberg Subaru 3.26,9
6. Jari-Matti Latvala Ford 3.30,3
7. Toni Gardemeister Mitsubishi 3.34,5.

[peterpz]

When it will start?

[miksu]

When it will start?

soon :P

[Donney]

I agree with the smilie idea, and by the way I was joking I have it bookmarked, but it is a classic question in each and every rally. :p :

[J4MIE]

Well the 2007 WRC season is just a few minutes away :D

Hope everyone has a good one :up: Enjoy it!!! :)

[White Sauron]

3 minutes left...

[seph]

Seb should be on the road right now...

GO, GO, GO!!!

[AndyRAC]

So why are Rally Radio playing music?

[dot-niek]

Let's hope for a trouble-free rally!
Can't wait for the first results

[J4MIE]

Sebastien fastest at first split!!!!!!!!









:p :

[peterpz]

Splits?

[Erki]

I know that I'm an Estonian and every Estonian should know it but...

LINK PLEASE!

:)

[Corny]

where to get the splits guys?

[Donney]

Any? Mine are not working :(

[aivan]

I agree with the smilie idea, and by the way I was joking I have it bookmarked, but it is a classic question in each and every rally. :p :



I can imagine.

The real usuful code would be :answer: to display the estonian link.. :s mokin:

[miksu]

estonians dont feed me with splits, so would someone keep me/us informed whats going on?

[René]

Where is Hirvonen ? no split time !

[aivan]

I agree with the smilie idea, and by the way I was joking I have it bookmarked, but it is a classic question in each and every rally. :p :



The real useuful code would be :answer: to display the estonian link.. :s mokin:

[seph]

How can I listen to World Rally Radio???

It's supossed to be at this link (http://www.wrc.com/page/RallyRadio/0,,10111,00.html), but it doesn't bring me any sound.

Thanks for anybody who gives me that info.

[René]

Split time here

http://wrc.ergo.pri.ee/splits.htm

[Madeira]

Splits:

http://wrc.ergo.pri.ee/splits.htm

[harriswrc]

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=1&results=1

[Brother John]

Belgium forum say Loeb 10sec faster on split 4!!!

[Donney]

Splits are working now and guess who is fastest?

[Erki]

Is it for real that Loeb completed a 28km long stage in 14 minutes? That makes average speed over 120kph....

[Timole]

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=1&stage=1&results=1

[J4MIE]

Please guys, read the thread and stop asking for more splits... they are not working at the moment... get used to it...

[Donney]

Loeb 14.8 faster at the end of SS

[Miika]

...and we are done.

[Erki]

Dzisus, looks like it's real. I demand an onboard vid. And now.

[White Sauron]

I'm depressed...

[teufel]

Seb didn't loose his speed!

[mdesign]

Good start for loeb :)

[seph]

Wow!!! C4 and Loeb are really really fast!!!

Loeb --> 14.8 --> Gronholm
Loeb --> 27.4 --> Hirvonen

And Sordo's splits looking like he's going to be on 2nd position.

[Corny]

How WRC was before Sebastien....

[satukata]

Last year marcus was 36,5sec slower in ss1 so not bad start this year.
Sordo fast too!

[xavier]

Is it for real that Loeb completed a 28km long stage in 14 minutes? That makes average speed over 120kph....


Seb said after the shakedown that the night stage were extremly fast, bordeline dangerously fast. So I guess the speed is right

[Donney]

Now we know the C4 is fast, will it be reliable?

[Brother John]

Please guys, read the thread and stop asking for more splits... they are not working at the moment... get used to it...

This one works!
But the NEW forum is damned slow!!!!

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=1&stage=1&results=1

[David V]

Citroën didn't build a rallycar...they build a rocket!

[Madeira]

well, only Citroen can beat Citroen!

[J4MIE]

Please guys, read the thread and stop asking for more splits... they are not working at the moment... get used to it...

[J4MIE]

Please guys, read the thread and stop asking for more splits... they are not working at the moment... get used to it...

[quicksilver]

Sordo 6.3 seconds faster than Gronholm

[miksu]

how slow is henning :S

[Brother John]

Please guys, read the thread and stop asking for more splits... they are not working at the moment... get used to it...

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=1&stage=1&results=1

This one works but the New Forum is damned slow!

[Finni]

Well it seems that C4 is very fast on asphalt. Loeb and Sordo flying. It could be that Sordo is only who can put any pressure on Seb in this rally. Let's see bit more..

[Erki]

Hey J4MIE, I undaztood already!

This new forum is seriously slow. :s

[xavier]

Is it for real that Loeb completed a 28km long stage in 14 minutes? That makes average speed over 120kph....


Seb said after the shakedown that the night stage were extremly fast, bordeline dangerously fast. So I guess the speed is right

[Erki]

Hey J4MIE, I undaztood already!

This new forum is seriously slow. :s

[satukata]

Garde driving strong with old mitsu

[aivan]

I don't think Sordo will put any pressure on Seb.
He's under his wing and will score as much points as possible but not beating Loeb... just in case he could.

I wish I'm worng though

[mdesign]

Kopecky is beating hirvonen splits, wow

[Donney]

And Kopecky's doing not bad at all.

[Luckin]

Watch out for Kopecky! He´s going for 5th in a stage... Surprising for me.

[Mauri A]

Seb had harder and cut tyres, let´s see what happens on the next stage.
In Finnish MTV Juuso Pykälistö, Citroen´s test driver, said that these tyres are not best for SS 2.

[gbar]

Is Duval competing the rally?

[Brother John]

Help This Forum Is So Slow!!!!!

[mdesign]

no duval this weekend

[HaCo]

Kopecky 6th time +30!

[HaCo]

No, duval is not there :(

[Donney]

Seb had harder and cut tyres, let´s see what happens on the next stage.
In Finnish MTV Juuso Pykälistö, Citroen´s test driver, said that these tyres are not best for SS 2.


That brings some hope.

[Wim_Impreza]

Is Duval competing the rally?

No, his first rally this year will be Portugal.

[Josti]

Help This Forum Is So Slow!!!!!

Probably too many people are browsing it. It's killing :p :

Hoping for a better outcome for Ford on stage 2!

[mdesign]

stobart vk is having a slow start of the season lol