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Josti
14th January 2007, 20:17
Ok, only 5 days left till the new season kicks off at Monte Carlo. Let's start the talking :up:

DonJippo
14th January 2007, 20:18
Any snow on stages?

Simmi
14th January 2007, 20:52
Hopefully someone can get down to the service park and get us a few early photos like last year. Am I right in thinking the Shakedown is still on the Thursday morning with the first stages being run in the evening? If so they (Petter) need to be cautious.

A.F.F.
14th January 2007, 21:24
I'm waiting for snowy, thrilling rally which hopefully offer wider competition than just Marcus vs. Sebastien. Interested to see if Petter can fight against them. Also, how our boys Mikko, Jari-Matti and Toni will do :)

MJW
14th January 2007, 21:37
From what I heared no snow on the stages.

FrankenSchwinn
14th January 2007, 21:45
according to Gap's website (the town, not the stupid clothes) then the weather will not be good for snow unless it's more north in france moutains. 7C is announced for wednesday during the day.

Tom206wrc
14th January 2007, 21:53
Sorry, despite living in France I'm far from MC(I'm living in paris) and can't help you ;(

Xeroid
14th January 2007, 22:23
Any webcams available in the Service Park or elsewhere ?

traxx
14th January 2007, 23:29
There is no snow and it's hot for a winter :(
All the links to prepare to go to MC :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2007/01/14/269-preparer-son-monte-carlo

A.F.F.
14th January 2007, 23:38
It's gonna be Seb's playground then.

Janne
14th January 2007, 23:38
From what I heared no snow on the stages.

Pleased with that, i hate snow and frost ...

My first Monte, and I'm excited !

FrankenSchwinn
14th January 2007, 23:41
i hate snow and frost ...

dude, uh, you live in finland...... how can you hate snow and ice and live in finland?

Tomi
14th January 2007, 23:47
Sorry, despite living in France I'm far from MC(I'm living in paris) and can't help you ;(

Tom, you should show some spirit and tomorrow morning drive to Monaco and check out the stages.

Xeroid
15th January 2007, 04:00
dude, uh, you live in finland...... how can you hate snow and ice and live in finland?

THATS WHY he doesn't like snow and ice ...he lives in Finland....LOL

GigiGalliNo1
15th January 2007, 04:31
any night time stages?

FrankenSchwinn
15th January 2007, 08:55
THATS WHY he doesn't like snow and ice ...he lives in Finland....LOL

oh, i wasnt questioning where his reasoning comes from, merely how he survives it! :p :

animrallye
15th January 2007, 09:54
Tom, you should show some spirit and tomorrow morning drive to Monaco and check out the stages.
I live in Monaco, and the nearest stage is 400 km away from here !
Today and tomorrow, temperatures around 10°C in the stages, no rain and no snow :rolleyes:

MJW
15th January 2007, 10:13
Dry ashpahlt - probably good for Ford. Marcus likes snow, his least favourite surface is wet (inconsistent) asphalt.

Donney
15th January 2007, 12:27
As usual I'm all excited for the start of the new season with all the new cars improvements and so on.

I really want to see what happens with the new Subaru and how the C4 compares with the Xsara.

I hope there are no spectator issues as previous years.

Can't wait, can't wait!!!!

ATF
15th January 2007, 14:06
Has anyone got a link to the entry list please?

Simmi
15th January 2007, 14:33
http://www.acm.mc/ramc/2007/pdf/liste_engages_2007.pdf

Janne
15th January 2007, 15:17
THATS WHY he doesn't like snow and ice ...he lives in Finland....LOL

Exactly !

Will be interesting to see how dominant C4 / Loeb will be on dry stages

JAM
15th January 2007, 19:10
I'm curious to see how much will be the Loeb advantage over Gronholm. Will be in seconds or in minutes?

Sulland
15th January 2007, 19:33
Will be interesting to se the Solberg-klan in action

Petter with same tyres as the rest for the first time. Can only make excuses for tyres one more time - since this is the debut with them.

Henning in a competitive car for the first time. Will be interesting to see him on asfalt !!

Looking forward, even if I do not like Monte Carlo as a rally.

Simmi
15th January 2007, 19:45
Im afraid that after these two night stages Loeb will have another 30 second lead.

Donney
15th January 2007, 19:55
I hope not, things have to change.

Tom206wrc
15th January 2007, 20:06
Dry ashpahlt - probably good for Ford. Marcus likes snow, his least favourite surface is wet (inconsistent) asphalt.



You mean it's good for Citroën(at least Xsara) rather, no ??? :p :

White Sauron
15th January 2007, 20:23
Im afraid that after these two night stages Loeb will have another 30 second lead.

I wouldn't be so sure ;)

FabiaFan
16th January 2007, 09:14
I live in Monaco, and the nearest stage is 400 km away from here !
:rolleyes: Should we still really call it Rallye "Monte Carlo" then?!?!?

animrallye
16th January 2007, 12:34
Should we still really call it Rallye "Monte Carlo" then?!?!?
:up: :p
Heavy smog during the recce this morning !

Tom206wrc
16th January 2007, 14:16
Terrible !!! I feel already too big gaps after SS1 and 2 on thursday evening !! :s

peterpz
16th January 2007, 16:45
Some pics? :)

cosmicpanda
17th January 2007, 05:19
Should we still really call it Rallye "Monte Carlo" then?!?!?

It'd be quite difficult to hold the entire rally in Monaco, I think. And it's using classic stages, not entirely new ones. So why not call it "Monte Carlo"?

Tom206wrc
17th January 2007, 09:28
Has shakedown started this morning ??? :confused:

White Sauron
17th January 2007, 09:44
Has shakedown started this morning ??? :confused:

Today is wednesday. Shakedown is on Thursday morning, from 8 till 12.

Mickey T
17th January 2007, 09:49
calm down. the subaru boys are not in the new car yet.

jonkka
17th January 2007, 11:48
Should we still really call it Rallye "Monte Carlo" then?!?!?

On the basis that there aren't any stages run in principality itself? In fact, this year is the first since 1997 that there is one but before that, no WRC edition of the event has had one. There simply isn't room in the tiny nation of MC for that. It really is "Rally of Southern France" but then again, who cares and besides, Wales Rally GB could as well drop the "GB" part if we go down that avenue. :eek:

miksu
17th January 2007, 11:52
On the basis that there aren't any stages run in principality itself? In fact, this year is the first since 1997 that there is one but before that, no WRC edition of the event has had one. There simply isn't room in the tiny nation of MC for that. It really is "Rally of Southern France" but then again, who cares and besides, Wales Rally GB could as well drop the "GB" part if we go down that avenue. :eek:

Wales is in GB...

White Sauron
17th January 2007, 12:17
What's the problem San Marino Garn Prix is held not in rep.San Marino too!

FabiaFan
17th January 2007, 12:27
What's the problem San Marino Garn Prix is held not in rep.San Marino too!
This is what I also dislike - it is just an instrument how to get more events into one country - as well as different GPs of Europe... I wonder when we will see GP of Lichtenstein or Vatican...

DonJippo
17th January 2007, 12:34
calm down. the subaru boys are not in the new car yet.

No not until Mexico...

GigiGalliNo1
17th January 2007, 12:38
Anyone else got WRC+ like me this year? :) Just subscribed!

WRC.com

"In a plan to grow the showcasing of exciting superspecial stages of the FIA World Rally Championship, fans can expect up to 15 hours of live broadcast coverage during 2007 on WRC.com.

First on the agenda is Rally Automobile Monte Carlo, which will host a superspecial stage around the harbour area of Monaco's Formula 1 circuit on Sunday, the rally's final day. The stage will be broadcast live on WRC+ at 09.30 - 10.30 local time (08.30 - 09.30 GMT) and can be followed live on World Rally Radio."

jonkka
17th January 2007, 12:44
Wales is in GB...

It is. But Wales is not GB.

V.Gatev
17th January 2007, 12:51
Hi, any info about A7 Renault Clio's? Are they old Clio or new R3? Thank you. :)

FabiaFan
17th January 2007, 12:55
Hi, any info about A7 Renault Clio's? Are they old Clio or new R3? Thank you. :)
R3 would be N3 then??

Viking
17th January 2007, 12:57
Pictures of Henning`s Monte car on his blogg :up:
http://www.vgb.no/6339
You can also see the Latvala and Wilson cars in the back, they seems to be running in Stobart livery (like last year).

LP
17th January 2007, 13:46
no service park pictures yet?

animrallye
17th January 2007, 14:23
Still no snow... High temperatures !
Here's a link to weather forecast on stages zone :
http://www.meteofrance.com/FR/mameteo/prevDept.jsp?LIEUID=DEPT26

V.Gatev
17th January 2007, 14:25
No, this season R3 cars will race in A7 Class. From Season 2008 FIA will create Group R - R1,R2,R3 and R4.

White Sauron
17th January 2007, 14:32
Here're some photos from the service-park:

http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/theme38/sujet376335-980.htm

dot-niek
17th January 2007, 15:24
The new BP Ford Livery is awesome!!

peterpz
17th January 2007, 16:09
The new BP Ford Livery is awesome!!
It is very nice, but almost the same like in 2006 :)

dot-niek
17th January 2007, 16:15
It is very nice, but almost the same like in 2006 :)

almost ;)

jacko
17th January 2007, 17:51
Let's bring MC on !!

miksu
17th January 2007, 18:24
apparently its gonna be a very fast rally, at least couple of stages! Jarmo Lehtinen said, that on stage 1 and stage on 10, there has been average speeds more than 120 km/h, and thats long time ago with Lancia and Celica :P

Gardemeister said stage 10 can be even dangerous if its wet, because of the new asphalt. Also Timo Rautiainen said if there was snow on stage 10, it would be horrible...
hehe, quite a rally coming up, huh?

Donney
17th January 2007, 18:36
I love the Expert and BP liveries. :up:

Tom206wrc
17th January 2007, 19:52
Manfred Stohl's ex-whale is present(in its 2006 livery) !!! :p :

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/49660/peugeot%20mc%202007%20val%2001.jpg


It's swiss gentleman-driver Philippe Roux who will drive it on 2007 Monte-Carlo ;)

Simmi
17th January 2007, 19:59
Has Matt Wilson hit another car before/during/after the reece? Anyone got the details?

Jaanus
17th January 2007, 20:07
Yes he did, there is a photo of his crashed Volvo recce car:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7771/scan10002pm1.jpg

Josti
17th January 2007, 20:10
Will he compete anyway? Not a good feeling to start the season like this I would think :\

Jaanus
17th January 2007, 20:15
Yes Matt will compete and he has no serious injuries. Volvo is very a safe car.

quicksilver
17th January 2007, 20:18
Could anyone translate for those of us who don't speak French please? what actually happened?

Tom206wrc
17th January 2007, 20:23
Apparently he suddenly wanted to drive on the left as he used to do in UK... :confused:

Donney
17th January 2007, 20:29
Basically coming out of a bend he was on the wrong side of the road and the coming car could not do anything to avoid Wilson. Luckily both drivers are OK and Wison will be able to start the rally.


It seems Ford are having a bit of a nightmare with their recces. What happened with that weird incident at rally GB, anyone knows?

White Sauron
17th January 2007, 20:34
It seems Ford are having a bit of a nightmare with their recces. What happened with that weird incident at rally GB, anyone knows?


Nothing ;)

Once again make sure Wilson-jr is a svcker...

quicksilver
17th January 2007, 20:48
Basically coming out of a bend he was on the wrong side of the road and the coming car could not do anything to avoid Wilson. Luckily both drivers are OK and Wison will be able to start the rally.


Thanks :up:

Janne
17th January 2007, 21:21
apparently its gonna be a very fast rally, at least couple of stages! Jarmo Lehtinen said, that on stage 1 and stage on 10, there has been average speeds more than 120 km/h, and thats long time ago with Lancia and Celica :P

Gardemeister said stage 10 can be even dangerous if its wet, because of the new asphalt. Also Timo Rautiainen said if there was snow on stage 10, it would be horrible...
hehe, quite a rally coming up, huh?


I'll try to find time to drive through that SS10, we'll miss tomorrow because of travelling.

Halvis
17th January 2007, 21:57
Just saw an interview with Henning Solberg and Bosse on norwegian TV, Henning saying that he can learn much from Marcus. When Marcus was asked what he could teach Henning, he responded with one of his usual dry, funny answers - "Henning knows how to drive a car, the throttle is to the left, and the breaks in the middle." Pretty funny!

On a serious note, Henning said that he would be satisfied with a point, he's unfamiliar with the car (tested just once) and with tarmac rallies (just driven once in WRC).

MJW
17th January 2007, 21:58
recce pictures available on rallye-live.com

Slipzen
17th January 2007, 22:01
http://www.acm.mc/ramc/2007/pdf/liste_engages_2007.pdf

Are there any known cancellations from the Entry List? I think that Duval is out. Is that correct?

Wim_Impreza
17th January 2007, 22:04
Yes, you are correct.

Slipzen
17th January 2007, 22:07
What do you think about the drivers just below the top. Will Couq be faster that Roux and Romeyer? What about Boland vs MacHale vs Wilson? Will Henning be able to beat Atkinson?

peterpz
17th January 2007, 22:12
almost ;)
Yes, because I wanted bigger changes in Ford livery for this season. My favourite livery:
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6408/diapo415it8.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diapo415it8.jpg)

Simmi
17th January 2007, 22:30
Nice Burger King sponsorship on the Pons car. They could make a great livery if they had more time.

http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo093hb2.jpg

Priorat
17th January 2007, 23:00
I've driven SS10 this morning. Very narrow and completely wet. I think that worst than the snow would be temperatures dropping a lot beacause the whole SS would be on verglass (black ice) conditions, so almost impossible not to make any mistake. The scenary around the road is awesome, very beautiful so, a nice stage to watch.

scooby girl
17th January 2007, 23:18
Eurosport2 will be showing the super special stage live sunday morning.

Simmi
17th January 2007, 23:56
What is the white circle with the smaller red one inside it for? Its always on the back of the cars on the Monte.

FabiaFan
18th January 2007, 00:05
What do you think about the drivers just below the top. Will Couq be faster that Roux and Romeyer? What about Boland vs MacHale vs Wilson? Will Henning be able to beat Atkinson?
I would say:
1. You cannot compare Cuoq (real rally driver) with Roux; about Romeyer no idea
2. Similar (but on a lower level on tarmac) MacHale vs. Boland
3. Anytime and anywhere in Europe

Woodeye
18th January 2007, 07:32
Nice Burger King sponsorship on the Pons car. They could make a great livery if they had more time.

http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo093hb2.jpg

You think that looks great? One sticker glued at the end of the car. Amazing... :rolleyes:

Woodeye
18th January 2007, 07:34
In Finnish media it was reported today that Marcus Grönholm had a secret test with F1 -driver Heikki Kovalainen while preparing to Monte Carlo.

Grönholm said that it was a really good and helpfull to see how Heikki drove in tarmac. He said that he learned a lot during that test.

GigiGalliNo1
18th January 2007, 07:35
You think that looks great? One sticker glued at the end of the car. Amazing... :rolleyes:

Looks delicious!!

Timole
18th January 2007, 07:50
You think that looks great? One sticker glued at the end of the car. Amazing... :rolleyes:

I have to agree with woodeye. I think the red lancer would be much nicer without the burger king sticker on int.

Zamppa
18th January 2007, 08:16
In Finnish media it was reported today that Marcus Grönholm had a secret test with F1 -driver Heikki Kovalainen while preparing to Monte Carlo.

Grönholm said that it was a really good and helpfull to see how Heikki drove in tarmac. He said that he learned a lot during that test.

So it was Heikki, that mysterious tarmac driving teacher Marcus mentioned and refused to name few weeks ago. That's a surprise.

Hope it worked, though.

J.Lindstroem
18th January 2007, 08:36
When does the Shakedown start?

Can't wait!!!

Tom206wrc
18th January 2007, 08:52
What do you think about the drivers just below the top. Will Couq be faster that Roux and Romeyer? What about Boland vs MacHale vs Wilson? Will Henning be able to beat Atkinson?



No doubt at all that Jean-Marie Cuoq WILL be faster than Roux and Romeyer :laugh:

White Sauron
18th January 2007, 08:53
When does the Shakedown start?

Can't wait!!!

At 8am Monte time... By the way, what is the time difference between Monte and Moscow, anybody knows?(( it's either 3 or 4 hours...

White Sauron
18th January 2007, 08:59
At 8am Monte time... By the way, what is the time difference between Monte and Moscow, anybody knows?(( it's either 3 or 4 hours...

Or between Monte and Finland... I'll plus 1 hour then. Damn, strange, live just 100 with some kilometres from Finland, but 1 hour futher...

J.Lindstroem
18th January 2007, 09:38
Monte and Finland must be +2 i assume...

FabiaFan
18th January 2007, 09:42
At 8am Monte time... By the way, what is the time difference between Monte and Moscow, anybody knows?(( it's either 3 or 4 hours...
Just two, just two...

FabiaFan
18th January 2007, 09:43
Monte and Finland must be +2 i assume...1

FabiaFan
18th January 2007, 09:44
So it's time for some results...

cosmicpanda
18th January 2007, 09:47
aren't they almost 10 hours away? I'm going to sleep first :p :

FabiaFan
18th January 2007, 10:01
aren't they almost 10 hours away? I'm going to sleep first :p : Shakedown ... I ment ... started 2 hours ago for the top drivers M1+M2 ...

Simmi
18th January 2007, 10:09
You think that looks great? One sticker glued at the end of the car. Amazing... :rolleyes:

No it doesnt look great at all it looks boring. What I meant is its nice to see some Burger King sponsorship on a car, before then going on to say they could make a great livery if they had more to time to sort one out.

animrallye
18th January 2007, 11:14
What is the white circle with the smaller red one inside it for? Its always on the back of the cars on the Monte.
It means tyres are with studs (french law...)
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/614/10571mi6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

MHjerpe
18th January 2007, 11:46
Seems like the Shake is canceled.. :( only few runs trough it was made..

306 Cosworth
18th January 2007, 11:48
2. Similar (but on a lower level on tarmac) MacHale vs. Boland



Lower level of Tarmac my arse, Irish Tarmac championship is the biggest championship in the world apart from the WRC. Also Irish Tar is the trickiest in the world as you will all find out in November ;)

animrallye
18th January 2007, 11:50
Yes, on Rally-Live in French, they say that Shakedown as been stopped du to the amount of spectators :dozey:

J.Lindstroem
18th January 2007, 11:50
Hm, This is starting good i have to say! Cancelled.....pfft

306 Cosworth
18th January 2007, 11:50
You think that looks great? One sticker glued at the end of the car. Amazing... :rolleyes:



Did you not read it properly? It said they could make it look great, not it does.

306 Cosworth
18th January 2007, 11:51
Yes, on Rally-Live in French, they say that Shakedown as been stopped du to the amount of spectators :dozey:

Monte Carlo should be dropped if this keep happening!

Iskald
18th January 2007, 11:59
Monte Carlo should be dropped if this keep happening!

I have said that for a long time. The rally is a dinosaur in this age and time and should be dropped. Tradition and history is well enough, but Monte has survived itself. Lets just make a bet how many stages will be cancelled tomorrow? 2, 3 or 4? It`s just a matter of numbers - and it won`t give great odds to predict that some hassle surely will occur. Agan...

J.Lindstroem
18th January 2007, 12:00
Monte Carlo should be dropped if this keep happening!

Yes i completley agree. Monte Carlo has had this problem for many years now, and FIA keeps the rally because of its status, Monte Carlo has been in the calendar for quite a while now. Its a classic event. But if they cant solve and get rid of this problem, i think they have to consider throwing it out from the calendar!

turves
18th January 2007, 12:09
and bring back the Safari...

animrallye
18th January 2007, 12:11
and bring back the Safari...
Sure that Safari won't have this kind of problems !

turves
18th January 2007, 12:16
I dont know for sure but I cant see that it would. The problem, as far as I can tell, with the Monte is that there is a minimal number of routes up to a stage, meaning masses of traffic, and once you get there you have to be pretty much right next to the track, as there is nowhere else to stand. From what Ive seen of the Safari its big wide open spaces.

Ive never been to either, I'm just going on what I've seen on the TV!

PetrWRC
18th January 2007, 12:18
Can somebody translate this text please?

"Le retour du rallye de Monte-Carlo sur les routes ardéchoises, après dix ans d'absence, est un évènement pour tous les passionnés de l'épreuve et de la discipline.

Les spectateurs sont nombreux à affluer autour de Valence et aux abords des spéciales, ce qui a contraint les organisateurs à annuler le shakedown. Celui-ci aurait dû se dérouler entre les communes de Mauves et Plats (sur la D219, à proximité de Tournon), de 9h à 12h.

L'afflux du public et le désordre qu'il provoque laisse à craindre de nouveaux contre-temps dans le déroulement du rallye. On redoute en effet une présence trop importante de spectateurs sur les spéciales."

Thanks

turves
18th January 2007, 12:23
I see WRC.com are leading the way with their upto-the-minute reporting again

FabiaFan
18th January 2007, 12:29
Lower level of Tarmac my arse, Irish Tarmac championship is the biggest championship in the world apart from the WRC. Also Irish Tar is the trickiest in the world as you will all find out in November ;)
Ok, I don't follow the Irish one, but i am well aware of the French one and believe me - however Cuoq is definitely not a tarmac specialist like Bengue for example, he will be miles ahead of MacHale...

306 Cosworth
18th January 2007, 12:30
How about a nice gravel rally to start off the year next year, or drop MC for Ireland ;)

animrallye
18th January 2007, 12:30
Can somebody translate this text please?

"Le retour du rallye de Monte-Carlo sur les routes ardéchoises, après dix ans d'absence, est un évènement pour tous les passionnés de l'épreuve et de la discipline.

Les spectateurs sont nombreux à affluer autour de Valence et aux abords des spéciales, ce qui a contraint les organisateurs à annuler le shakedown. Celui-ci aurait dû se dérouler entre les communes de Mauves et Plats (sur la D219, à proximité de Tournon), de 9h à 12h.

L'afflux du public et le désordre qu'il provoque laisse à craindre de nouveaux contre-temps dans le déroulement du rallye. On redoute en effet une présence trop importante de spectateurs sur les spéciales."

Thanks
The return of MC Rally on Ardèche's roads after 10 years is a great event for all passionates.
A lot of spectators had arrived in Valence and around stages. The organisators had to cancel the Shake down...
The huge crowd and the mess on the roads may create new problems during the rally...

turves
18th January 2007, 12:34
it doesn't bode well for the weekend does it...

Donney
18th January 2007, 12:37
Can somebody translate this text please?

"Le retour du rallye de Monte-Carlo sur les routes ardéchoises, après dix ans d'absence, est un évènement pour tous les passionnés de l'épreuve et de la discipline.

Les spectateurs sont nombreux à affluer autour de Valence et aux abords des spéciales, ce qui a contraint les organisateurs à annuler le shakedown. Celui-ci aurait dû se dérouler entre les communes de Mauves et Plats (sur la D219, à proximité de Tournon), de 9h à 12h.

L'afflux du public et le désordre qu'il provoque laisse à craindre de nouveaux contre-temps dans le déroulement du rallye. On redoute en effet une présence trop importante de spectateurs sur les spéciales."

Thanks

"The return of the Montecarlo Rally to the roads of Ardeche, after 10 yearas of absence, it an event for all the fans of the rally and the discipline.

The affluence of spectators around Valence and on the stages has forced the organization to supress the shakedown. Which will take place between Mauves and Plats (on the D129 near Tournon) from 9 to 12.

The affluence of public and the dissorder it creates has caused the arise of new fears of incidents along the Rally. A very important presence of spectators on the stages is expected and feared by the organization"


Not perfect but you get the idea.

PetrWRC
18th January 2007, 12:40
animrallye & Donney - thanks for translate 8-)

1LM1
18th January 2007, 12:41
My bet: one of the two stages of tonight will be cancelled. I can't imagine how many people will try to attend the stages of tonight. It will be huge I think.

DonJippo
18th January 2007, 12:41
The huge crowd and the mess on the roads may create new problems during the rally...

What a surprise... :dozey:

gorgor_bay
18th January 2007, 12:47
Droping the only winter tarmac event would be a real mistake imo

MJW
18th January 2007, 12:52
Droping the only winter tarmac event would be a real mistake imo
Move Corsica to winter.

turves
18th January 2007, 12:54
I dont know if theres any snow on the Monte at the moment, but if not, then I imagine conditions in Ireland in November are going to be pretty similar.

Tom206wrc
18th January 2007, 12:55
Yes i completley agree. Monte Carlo has had this problem for many years now, and FIA keeps the rally because of its status, Monte Carlo has been in the calendar for quite a while now. Its a classic event. But if they cant solve and get rid of this problem, i think they have to consider throwing it out from the calendar!




And Kenya/Safari was a long time tradition in world rallying and that didn't prevent Mr Mosley and Richards to get rid off this event !! How weired behaviour !! :mad: :mad:

Halvis
18th January 2007, 12:55
Most drivers got 2-3 passes before it was cancelled. Anyone with times, from any sources?

Tom206wrc
18th January 2007, 12:57
Droping the only winter tarmac event would be a real mistake imo




Kenya was the lonely african event of WRC too... :rolleyes:

turves
18th January 2007, 12:59
from Rally Live (English)

The World Rally Championship pull in many fans, but this morning in Mauves, the rally was something a victim of its own success.

"Following the decision of the FIA delegate, and due to the abundance of spectators in the lower part of the roads, we have had no option but to cancel the shakedown," read a statement.

"In order to prevent similar cancellations of future events, we recommend that spectators follow scrupulously the advice given either by the security marshals or by any member of the organisation.
"

The official start of the Monte Carlo Rally takes place this evening at Champ de Mars gardens followed by two night stages in the Vercors.

animrallye
18th January 2007, 13:01
I dont know if theres any snow on the Monte at the moment, but if not, then I imagine conditions in Ireland in November are going to be pretty similar.
No snow ! Temperatures are around 9°C in the morning and the evening, 11°C at 1 PM...
Snow may fall on Sunday on the real stages... When cars will be in Monte-Carlo for the Mickey Mouse Stage !
Sorry, for me a SSS is a MMS

VM
18th January 2007, 13:01
Droping the only winter tarmac event would be a real mistake imo

I agree. Rally Monte-Carlo is one of my favourite events in calendar. I think it must stay in WRC in any case. We have too many gravel rallies in the championship and not so many on tarmac.

miksu
18th January 2007, 13:05
I agree. Rally Monte-Carlo is one of my favourite events in calendar. I think it must stay in WRC in any case. We have too many gravel rallies in the championship and not so many on tarmac.

i almost choked to my milk

turves
18th January 2007, 13:07
Sorry, for me a SSS is a MMS

Same here

Brother John
18th January 2007, 13:15
So we will have a annoying weekend!

:andrea: I have to keep my big mouth shut here about the French :blackeye: :laugh:

N.O.T
18th January 2007, 13:16
Nice to see that Rally is very popular....but to cancel the SD is a bit ridiculous....

animrallye
18th January 2007, 13:20
So we will have a annoying weekend!

:andrea: I have to keep my big mouth shut here about the French :blackeye: :laugh:
I think so :D http://yelims2.free.fr/Feu/Feu03.gif

J.Lindstroem
18th January 2007, 13:51
I agree. Rally Monte-Carlo is one of my favourite events in calendar. I think it must stay in WRC in any case. We have too many gravel rallies in the championship and not so many on tarmac.

For me, rallying is at its best when it is on gravel!

AndyRAC
18th January 2007, 13:54
Same here

Agree, but why didn't they run the full GP circuit, reversed, and in the dark.

Also Rallye Monte Carlo with no Col de Turini, mmmm,....


.....Not good!!!

turves
18th January 2007, 13:56
Agree, but why didn't they run the full GP circuit, reversed, and in the dark.

Your guess is as good as mine...

J.Lindstroem
18th January 2007, 14:03
Also Rallye Monte Carlo with no Col de Turini, mmmm,....

Yes, Monte Carlo is not as it used to be...

Rollover
18th January 2007, 14:21
Shakedown results (unofficial): 1. Hirvonen 2. Grönholm and Loeb -0,1 sec 4. Stohl -0,8 5. P.Solberg´-2,1...

Timole
18th January 2007, 14:26
Shakedown results (unofficial): 1. Hirvonen 2. Grönholm and Loeb -0,1 sec 4. Stohl -0,8 5. P.Solberg´-2,1...

Latvala´s time?

White Sauron
18th January 2007, 14:31
Just two, just two...

Thanks!

DonJippo
18th January 2007, 14:48
So we will have a annoying weekend!

:andrea: I have to keep my big mouth shut here about the French :blackeye: :laugh:

Just keep the cork on the bottle and there will be no worries :D

Christina
18th January 2007, 14:50
Does anyone have any pictures from the service park? I'm interested to see the new liveries of some of the privateers and such..

Le NaRcX
18th January 2007, 15:12
A lot of photos here:

http://www.forocompeticion.com/foro/index.php?topic=424.90

http://www.forocoches.com/foro/showthread.php?p=14639067#post14639067

animrallye
18th January 2007, 15:15
Some pictures of the Shakedown from a french forum :


http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7136/citroen1ao5.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8168/citroen2pb6.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3810/elenabi1.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/971/ford1hn6.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7693/ford2pz0.jpg
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4747/ford3qu0.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6288/mitsu1fv5.jpg
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9716/sub1ly9.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8726/sub2px9.jpg
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/3033/sub3nt9.jpg

miksu
18th January 2007, 15:23
crazy french people...

animrallye
18th January 2007, 15:35
crazy french people...
Stop it :mad:
Do you think there're only french fans on the stages ?
Don't you remember what you Finns tells about Estonians fans during Rally Finland ?
Monte-Carlo Rally's problem is not a french problem but the lot of fans coming from all europe and other countries.

miksu
18th January 2007, 15:38
Stop it :mad:
Do you think there're only french fans on the stages ?
Don't you remember what you Finns tells about Estonians fans during Rally Finland ?
Monte-Carlo Rally's problem is not a french problem but the lot of fans coming from all europe and other countries.

cool it... sorry for my narrow minded comment. correction, crazy spectators

animrallye
18th January 2007, 15:42
cool it... correction, crazy spectators
:)
15 000 spectators had been on 5 km stage during Shakedown...
So you can understand the problem ;)

Other pictures from SD (French Forum)
http://images.imagehotel.net/?4fbe3e7fc6.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?1e72dad674.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?6e86f8f219.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?0f06bddfc9.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?899ec0db87.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?5b8432ab51.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?1a751bf80e.jpg

Mauri A
18th January 2007, 16:02
cool it... sorry for my narrow minded comment. correction, crazy spectators
BTW, in the seventies in the 1000 Lakes Rally we had to move away from Tampere surroundings because of the grazy Finnish spectators!

Tom206wrc
18th January 2007, 16:07
And Jean-Marie Cuoq wasn't able to do a single SD run because of what happened ;(

miksu
18th January 2007, 16:10
:)

Other pictures from SD (French Forum)



could you post a link for the forum, as it seems to be a good source for pics?

Brother John
18th January 2007, 16:12
:)
15 000 spectators had been on 5 km stage during Shakedown...
So you can understand the problem ;)

Other pictures from SD (French Forum)
http://images.imagehotel.net/?4fbe3e7fc6.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?1e72dad674.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?6e86f8f219.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?0f06bddfc9.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?899ec0db87.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?5b8432ab51.jpg
http://images.imagehotel.net/?1a751bf80e.jpg

Same pictures as on previus post! :confused:

René
18th January 2007, 16:13
could you post a link for the forum, as it seems to be a good source for pics?

http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/theme38/sujet376335-1225.htm

miksu
18th January 2007, 16:25
http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/theme38/sujet376335-1225.htm

thanks! :)

Simmi
18th January 2007, 17:20
And Jean-Marie Cuoq wasn't able to do a single SD run because of what happened ;(

Awww Tom dont worry. Here's a picture to cheer you up. Might be on a road section?

http://www.rally-live.com/wrc/photos/2007/montecarlo/diapo_050.jpg

bennizw
18th January 2007, 17:28
Something tells me that the french forum is slightly more active than we are around the Monte. They've already reached page nr 36! :p :

White Sauron
18th January 2007, 17:42
I don't know what to await from Citroen... As Ford' fan I'm very afraid now... Of course, I'm confident in my team, in Marcus and Mikko, but... Maybe Loeb and Freelin are just lying? What if the C4 is fast like a rocket? What if it can blow the competition away? What if it's again from another level? So many ifs...

miksu
18th January 2007, 17:43
Marcus:

"Shakedown was difficult. The road was so slimy, wet and slippery, but we had a clear reason for that. Back of the car wasnt like it was supposed to be, but the times were good."

René
18th January 2007, 17:44
Something tells me that the french forum is slightly more active than we are around the Monte. They've already reached page nr 36! :p :

:D yes but we start to post the 04 april 2006 !

GigiGalliNo1
18th January 2007, 17:49
Gosh I wish i was in Monte right now!! arggg

See that's how a rally is ment to be, not so many people tho to make it canceled but to have that much access on a stage, standing near or on he road!! Not like in Aus 10m's away for safety. But anyways good luck to your fav drivers guys!

White Sauron
18th January 2007, 17:50
Marcus:

"Shakedown was difficult. The road was so slimy, wet and slippery, but we had a clear reason for that. Back of the car wasnt like it was supposed to be, but the times were good."

Where did you get it?

satukata
18th January 2007, 17:50
hope no more promblems with spectators

bennizw
18th January 2007, 17:50
:D yes but we start to post the 04 april 2006 !

Haha, good to see patriots for their own home rally. Let's hope it turns out well! Looking forward to see the speed of the C4 through the first stages tonight.

satukata
18th January 2007, 18:01
More shakedown times. Top drivers drove 2-3 times. so it looks like battle Ford againts Citroen as expected. Hope Petter can find little more speed and fight for podium!

1. Mikko Hirvonen Ford 3.24,8
2. Sebastien Loeb Citroen 3.24,9
3. Marcus Grönholm Ford 3.24,9
4. Manfred Stohl Citroen 3.25,6
5. Petter Solberg Subaru 3.26,9
2 more times i have
..Jari-Matti Latvala Ford 3.30,3
..Toni Gardemeister Mitsubishi 3.34,5.

DonJippo
18th January 2007, 18:05
See that's how a rally is ment to be, not so many people tho to make it canceled but to have that much access on a stage, standing near or on he road!! Not like in Aus 10m's away for safety. But anyways good luck to your fav drivers guys!

That's one of the most stupid comments for a very long time on this forum.

J4MIE
18th January 2007, 18:05
When does SS1 start?

Erki
18th January 2007, 18:08
Timetable anyone?

René
18th January 2007, 18:08
That is the official timing but? we never know



# 19:16 - SS1 - ST JEAN EN ROYANS - COL DE LACHAU - 28,52 km
# 20:06 - SS2 - LA CIME DU MAS - COL DE GAUDISSART - 17,88 km

bennizw
18th January 2007, 18:08
19:15 Norwegian time I've heard, which will mean 18:15 for you J4mie :)

GigiGalliNo1
18th January 2007, 18:10
Er, but i mean like back when you watch, or who ever was in the Era of Group B, you see spectators standing on the roads, in Greece or Finland or the UK and they run out of the way of the rally car, well I know it's not safe and I know it's stupid to say, and having too many people is bad, but you should enjoy the rally at a safe distance but not be forced to stand a great deal away from watching. I hope Daniel doesn't get into this, I've heard it before so I don't want to argue.

Set your time to GMT+1 on your computer!

White Sauron
18th January 2007, 18:10
Timetable anyone?

It starts in 1 hour, 13 minutes, at 7:16pm. local time

All time table is here:

http://live.bfgoodrich.com/~bfg/WRC_2007_R1/raceclas.php

Donney
18th January 2007, 18:13
Can't wait, can't wait. Wiil we have pleasure to enjoy rally radio?


Oh, and by the way let me be the first to ask:

"Can you give me the link to the estonian splits page? :p :

Erki
18th January 2007, 18:14
Oh damn. I had understood that it's 19.16 in my time(GMT+2). Oh well..

White Sauron
18th January 2007, 18:15
Can't wait, can't wait. Wiil we have pleasure to enjoy rally radio?


Oh, and by the way let me be the first to ask:

"Can you give me the link to the estonian splits page? :p :

http://www.nuclear.pri.ee/rally/index.php

White Sauron
18th January 2007, 18:16
But I suppose the first stage we won't see any split times... it's such a strategy of orginizers. So that the first results would be a shock for as...

aivan
18th January 2007, 18:20
Oh, and by the way let me be the first to ask:

"Can you give me the link to the estonian splits page? :p :

Mark... I suggest having a smiley script (in the lines of : splits : ) that returns the famous "Can anyone give me the link to the estonian splits page?" question. :D

Anyone voting in favor?

Can't wait... a new season is here!!!! :bounce:

VAMOS DANI!!!!!

Timole
18th January 2007, 18:25
Can't wait, can't wait. Wiil we have pleasure to enjoy rally radio?


Oh, and by the way let me be the first to ask:

"Can you give me the link to the estonian splits page? :p :
Here you are - http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/.

Mauri A
18th January 2007, 18:26
That's one of the most stupid comments for a very long time on this forum.
I fully agree! In my time as 1000 Lakes Rally Managing Director I sat two inches above my chair for three days waiting for bad news from the stages!
Fortunately it happened only two times.

GigiGalliNo1
18th January 2007, 18:27
Ah forget about it.

Mauri A
18th January 2007, 18:31
Ah forget about it.
O.K. Forgotten for ever!

White Sauron
18th January 2007, 18:40
Great news! Loeb isn't happy with oversteer too!!!

drewbud
18th January 2007, 18:40
Shouldn't we be under way?

miksu
18th January 2007, 18:42
Where did you get it?

its in finnish...http://www.mtv3.fi

White Sauron
18th January 2007, 18:48
its in finnish...http://www.mtv3.fi

no problem for me ;)

kiitos informaatiosta!

Simmi
18th January 2007, 18:51
Does the road order go Loeb/Sordo/Bosse or is it based on last years championship?

Jaanus
18th January 2007, 18:52
Does the road order go Loeb/Sordo/Bosse or is it based on last years championship?

It's based on last years championship. Loeb, Grönholm, Hirvonen...

Simmi
18th January 2007, 18:58
Thank you as always Jaanus. If I was on Who Wants to be a Millionaire and there was a question about rallying I didnt know...I would ring you!

animrallye
18th January 2007, 18:58
Mark... I suggest having a smiley script (in the lines of : splits : ) that returns the famous "Can anyone give me the link to the estonian splits page?" question. :D

Anyone voting in favor?

Can't wait... a new season is here!!!! :bounce:

:up: :up: :p

René
18th January 2007, 19:06
Shakedown result

1. Mikko Hirvonen Ford 3.24,8
2. Sebastien Loeb Citroen 3.24,9
3. Marcus Grönholm Ford 3.24,9
4. Manfred Stohl Citroen 3.25,6
5. Petter Solberg Subaru 3.26,9
6. Jari-Matti Latvala Ford 3.30,3
7. Toni Gardemeister Mitsubishi 3.34,5.

peterpz
18th January 2007, 19:18
When it will start?

miksu
18th January 2007, 19:19
When it will start?

soon :P

Donney
18th January 2007, 19:19
I agree with the smilie idea, and by the way I was joking I have it bookmarked, but it is a classic question in each and every rally. :p :

J4MIE
18th January 2007, 19:19
Well the 2007 WRC season is just a few minutes away :D

Hope everyone has a good one :up: Enjoy it!!! :)

White Sauron
18th January 2007, 19:20
3 minutes left...

seph
18th January 2007, 19:22
Seb should be on the road right now...

GO, GO, GO!!!

AndyRAC
18th January 2007, 19:24
So why are Rally Radio playing music?

dot-niek
18th January 2007, 19:25
Let's hope for a trouble-free rally!
Can't wait for the first results

J4MIE
18th January 2007, 19:27
Sebastien fastest at first split!!!!!!!!









:p :

peterpz
18th January 2007, 19:27
Splits?

Erki
18th January 2007, 19:33
I know that I'm an Estonian and every Estonian should know it but...

LINK PLEASE!

:)

Corny
18th January 2007, 19:34
where to get the splits guys?

Donney
18th January 2007, 19:34
Any? Mine are not working :(

aivan
18th January 2007, 19:35
I agree with the smilie idea, and by the way I was joking I have it bookmarked, but it is a classic question in each and every rally. :p :



I can imagine.

The real usuful code would be :answer: to display the estonian link.. :s mokin:

miksu
18th January 2007, 19:35
estonians dont feed me with splits, so would someone keep me/us informed whats going on?

René
18th January 2007, 19:35
Where is Hirvonen ? no split time !

aivan
18th January 2007, 19:36
I agree with the smilie idea, and by the way I was joking I have it bookmarked, but it is a classic question in each and every rally. :p :



The real useuful code would be :answer: to display the estonian link.. :s mokin:

seph
18th January 2007, 19:37
How can I listen to World Rally Radio???

It's supossed to be at this link (http://www.wrc.com/page/RallyRadio/0,,10111,00.html), but it doesn't bring me any sound.

Thanks for anybody who gives me that info.

René
18th January 2007, 19:38
Split time here

http://wrc.ergo.pri.ee/splits.htm

Madeira
18th January 2007, 19:38
Splits:

http://wrc.ergo.pri.ee/splits.htm

harriswrc
18th January 2007, 19:38
http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=1&results=1

Brother John
18th January 2007, 19:39
Belgium forum say Loeb 10sec faster on split 4!!!

Donney
18th January 2007, 19:39
Splits are working now and guess who is fastest?

Erki
18th January 2007, 19:39
Is it for real that Loeb completed a 28km long stage in 14 minutes? That makes average speed over 120kph....

Timole
18th January 2007, 19:40
http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=1&stage=1&results=1

J4MIE
18th January 2007, 19:41
Please guys, read the thread and stop asking for more splits... they are not working at the moment... get used to it...

Donney
18th January 2007, 19:41
Loeb 14.8 faster at the end of SS

Miika
18th January 2007, 19:41
...and we are done.

Erki
18th January 2007, 19:42
Dzisus, looks like it's real. I demand an onboard vid. And now.

White Sauron
18th January 2007, 19:42
I'm depressed...

teufel
18th January 2007, 19:42
Seb didn't loose his speed!

mdesign
18th January 2007, 19:44
Good start for loeb :)

seph
18th January 2007, 19:44
Wow!!! C4 and Loeb are really really fast!!!

Loeb --> 14.8 --> Gronholm
Loeb --> 27.4 --> Hirvonen

And Sordo's splits looking like he's going to be on 2nd position.

Corny
18th January 2007, 19:44
How WRC was before Sebastien....

satukata
18th January 2007, 19:44
Last year marcus was 36,5sec slower in ss1 so not bad start this year.
Sordo fast too!

xavier
18th January 2007, 19:46
Is it for real that Loeb completed a 28km long stage in 14 minutes? That makes average speed over 120kph....


Seb said after the shakedown that the night stage were extremly fast, bordeline dangerously fast. So I guess the speed is right

Donney
18th January 2007, 19:46
Now we know the C4 is fast, will it be reliable?

Brother John
18th January 2007, 19:47
Please guys, read the thread and stop asking for more splits... they are not working at the moment... get used to it...

This one works!
But the NEW forum is damned slow!!!!

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=1&stage=1&results=1

David V
18th January 2007, 19:47
Citroën didn't build a rallycar...they build a rocket!

Madeira
18th January 2007, 19:49
well, only Citroen can beat Citroen!

J4MIE
18th January 2007, 19:49
Please guys, read the thread and stop asking for more splits... they are not working at the moment... get used to it...

J4MIE
18th January 2007, 19:49
Please guys, read the thread and stop asking for more splits... they are not working at the moment... get used to it...

quicksilver
18th January 2007, 19:49
Sordo 6.3 seconds faster than Gronholm

miksu
18th January 2007, 19:49
how slow is henning :S

Brother John
18th January 2007, 19:51
Please guys, read the thread and stop asking for more splits... they are not working at the moment... get used to it...

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=1&stage=1&results=1

This one works but the New Forum is damned slow!

Finni
18th January 2007, 19:52
Well it seems that C4 is very fast on asphalt. Loeb and Sordo flying. It could be that Sordo is only who can put any pressure on Seb in this rally. Let's see bit more..

Erki
18th January 2007, 19:52
Hey J4MIE, I undaztood already!

This new forum is seriously slow. :s

xavier
18th January 2007, 19:54
Is it for real that Loeb completed a 28km long stage in 14 minutes? That makes average speed over 120kph....


Seb said after the shakedown that the night stage were extremly fast, bordeline dangerously fast. So I guess the speed is right

Erki
18th January 2007, 19:54
Hey J4MIE, I undaztood already!

This new forum is seriously slow. :s

satukata
18th January 2007, 19:55
Garde driving strong with old mitsu

aivan
18th January 2007, 19:57
I don't think Sordo will put any pressure on Seb.
He's under his wing and will score as much points as possible but not beating Loeb... just in case he could.

I wish I'm worng though

mdesign
18th January 2007, 19:58
Kopecky is beating hirvonen splits, wow

Donney
18th January 2007, 19:59
And Kopecky's doing not bad at all.

Luckin
18th January 2007, 19:59
Watch out for Kopecky! He´s going for 5th in a stage... Surprising for me.

Mauri A
18th January 2007, 19:59
Seb had harder and cut tyres, let´s see what happens on the next stage.
In Finnish MTV Juuso Pykälistö, Citroen´s test driver, said that these tyres are not best for SS 2.

gbar
18th January 2007, 20:01
Is Duval competing the rally?

Brother John
18th January 2007, 20:04
Help This Forum Is So Slow!!!!!

mdesign
18th January 2007, 20:05
no duval this weekend

HaCo
18th January 2007, 20:06
Kopecky 6th time +30!

HaCo
18th January 2007, 20:07
No, duval is not there :(

Donney
18th January 2007, 20:09
Seb had harder and cut tyres, let´s see what happens on the next stage.
In Finnish MTV Juuso Pykälistö, Citroen´s test driver, said that these tyres are not best for SS 2.


That brings some hope.

Wim_Impreza
18th January 2007, 20:10
Is Duval competing the rally?

No, his first rally this year will be Portugal.

Josti
18th January 2007, 20:10
Help This Forum Is So Slow!!!!!

Probably too many people are browsing it. It's killing :p :

Hoping for a better outcome for Ford on stage 2!

mdesign
18th January 2007, 20:12
stobart vk is having a slow start of the season lol