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teufel
19th January 2007, 11:32
Good to see Toni back in action again! :up:
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 11:33
Fine battle between Garde and Stohl!
teufel
19th January 2007, 11:33
have i missed something were,s marcus or has he not run the stage yet?
He starts now
jonkka
19th January 2007, 11:33
Funchal, Madeira? Hmm, I spent Christmas and New Year there... toast...
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 11:34
He starts now
thanks for that!!
teufel
19th January 2007, 11:34
And Petter seems also not hopeless, like last year :)
jonkka
19th January 2007, 11:34
Atko lost a lot in that one.
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 11:34
hirvonen looks mighty quick at first split
JAM
19th January 2007, 11:36
Henning had intercom problems yesterday and it seems none of you get that it's only his second tarmac rally and he hasen't even tested the Focus on tarmac. People like wilson has done 4 WRC on tarmac + all the national events.
Subarunorway you're one of the membres that i have in big consideration... please don't make me change mind with a coment like that. :cool: Henning is extremely slow, but as i said, is not only Henning, all the Stobart cars are very slow. I think a place on Kronos would have suited him very well with a Xsara. I have some doubts about the Stobart cars...
And please, don't pu Wilsonm and Henning at the same leve. Henning is undoubtable better.
Madeira
19th January 2007, 11:36
Funchal, Madeira? Hmm, I spent Christmas and New Year there... toast...
You will be welcome once again next year , I'm sure!
JAM
19th January 2007, 11:37
Funchal, Madeira? Hmm, I spent Christmas and New Year there... toast...
Then you were on a island were people breath rallying :p :
jonkka
19th January 2007, 11:39
Then you were on a island were people breath rallying :p :
And on top of that, drivers were very polite to pedestrians! Nice island, very nice.
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 11:44
sordo bloody flying!!!!!!!!
yosssi
19th January 2007, 11:44
go sordo !!
Halvis
19th January 2007, 11:45
Interesting - Sordo wins again! Petter also fast on the last two stages..
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 11:45
Not bad for Bosse considering his gearshift problems.
A.F.F.
19th January 2007, 11:45
Latvala chasing Cuoq and from Atkinson to Petter, there's a fight going on.
aivan
19th January 2007, 11:46
Seb said he stalled the car on the start?
He said it in french over WRR... any french member who can confirm that?
VAMOS DANI!!!!
miksu
19th January 2007, 11:47
Atkinson must push on the next stage in order to keep Garde and Stohl behind. Its a tricky stage... wonder what happens ;)
1LM1
19th January 2007, 11:47
Seb said he stalled the car on the start?
He said it in french over WRR... any french member who can confirm that?
VAMOS DANI!!!!
Yes he stalled and lost 1 second.
A.F.F.
19th January 2007, 11:47
Sordo has no permission to win this rally, not as long as Loeb is in top two.
Miika
19th January 2007, 11:48
Now is the time for Citroen to give that team order and kill the rally..
miksu
19th January 2007, 11:49
Now is the time for Citroen to give that team order and kill the rally..
I dont think Seb likes it, if there will be such an order...
aivan
19th January 2007, 11:52
I don't think Loeb would like it. But he should comply with that order if it's issued. And I think Sordo will do aswell
animrallye
19th January 2007, 11:52
We are speaking about Loeb and Sordo on Citroëns, not Biasion and Kankkunen on Lancias :p
jonkka
19th January 2007, 11:55
We are speaking about Loeb and Sordo on Citroëns, not Biasion and Kankkunen on Lancias :p
And the difference is?
JAM
19th January 2007, 11:56
Yes he stalled and lost 1 second.
I think was 1,78 seconds...
WRC2006
19th January 2007, 11:57
That is the team instruction. Loeb first then Sordo after.
Don't you remeber what happened in Germany Rally last year? The same thing now.
A.F.F.
19th January 2007, 11:57
We are speaking about Loeb and Sordo on Citroëns, not Biasion and Kankkunen on Lancias :p
The same occurs if Hirvonen and Grönholm should lead the rally. It's damn sure Sordo and Loeb are under orders. French winner in French rally with a French car.
WRC2006
19th January 2007, 11:59
The same occurs if Hirvonen and Grönholm should lead the rally. It's damn sure Sordo and Loeb are under orders. French winner in French rally with a French car.
FRENCH TEAM, FRENCH CAR, FRENCH DRIVER, FRENCH WINNER IN FRENCH RALLY!!!!! hAAAAAA!!!!!
teufel
19th January 2007, 12:00
Henning is extremely slow, but as i said, is not only Henning, all the Stobart cars are very slow. I think a place on Kronos would have suited him very well with a Xsara. I have some doubts about the Stobart cars...
I don't think, that JML is slow, he makes pretty decent stage times and don't forget that he must be cautious, because of last years silly mistakes on tarmac!
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 12:01
anyone of here going out to the ADAC this year?i am
A.F.F.
19th January 2007, 12:02
FRENCH TEAM, FRENCH CAR, FRENCH DRIVER, FRENCH WINNER IN FRENCH RALLY!!!!! hAAAAAA!!!!!
:confused:
...right.
miksu
19th January 2007, 12:03
I think stobart Ford should be at least faster car than Mitsu at the moment
AndyRAC
19th January 2007, 12:03
FRENCH TEAM, FRENCH CAR, FRENCH DRIVER, FRENCH WINNER IN FRENCH RALLY!!!!! hAAAAAA!!!!!
And why not?
Imagine British Team, British Car, British Driver, British Winner in British Rally,..
...no, I can't either!!
aivan
19th January 2007, 12:08
I think stobart Ford should be at least faster car than Mitsu at the moment
Maybe it is... but Garde is too much for their drivers in this rally
jonkka
19th January 2007, 12:08
British Car
Any there any left these days?
pentti
19th January 2007, 12:16
Any there any left these days?Sure.Reliant Robin.3 wheeler. Not sure how it fits in swedish ruts though but could be good cutting corners.
animrallye
19th January 2007, 12:16
And the difference is?
1 : We are not in 1987
2 : Cesare Fiorio is not in charge of Citroën
3 : Sordo don't smoke :p
miksu
19th January 2007, 12:19
Maybe it is... but Garde is too much for their drivers in this rally
exactly.
WRC2006
19th January 2007, 12:19
And why not?
Imagine British Team, British Car, British Driver, British Winner in British Rally,..
...no, I can't either!!
Is there any British Car in WRC?!! Is there any british driver in top 5?
Donney
19th January 2007, 12:21
I think it is only right that Citroen uses the team orders, Sordo is the second driver so as long as Loeb is leading and Gronholm reasonably far behind, he should not attack more than necessary.
Having said that I'd love to see a proper fight for the win, but we know how these things are.
miksu
19th January 2007, 12:24
Rumours whisper, that at the end of stage 5, Marcus was throwing his helmet and cursing the gearbox...
miksu
19th January 2007, 12:25
Next stage will show, if Marcus can challenge (i think)
N.O.T
19th January 2007, 12:25
Comparing Sordo and Biasion (the biggest fraud in the rallying world) is plain sacriledge.....
WRC2006
19th January 2007, 12:27
Even before the start of the rally, Sordo had a clear instruction of finishing the rally first and score maximum points as possible. He doesn't have to push just to beat Loeb. Citroen plays the "waiting game". They will be following the time for Hivronen and Chris so they know what time to push or not.
jure dvorsek
19th January 2007, 12:28
I am very, very happy for both Citroën drivers, they are on correct positions-first and second! For all others-end of winter dreams (be in front of Super Seb!!). I hope C4 will manage without mechanichal problems. Again very bad start in 2007 for P.Solberg-even more, what kind of excuse will we get now, story of beeing on slower tyres is ended!!
Interesting to see also battle between N4 and S1600-on first four stages N4 cars were faster than S1600 (Prokop), I think this is because new 18 inch wheeles on N4!
Miika
19th January 2007, 12:30
Rumours whisper, that at the end of stage 5, Marcus was throwing his helmet and cursing the gearbox...
Didn´t give any comments to the media at the stage end. Hopefully they´ll get it fix whatever the problem is then and we´d see a maximum attack in the long one.
RJL25
19th January 2007, 12:32
Chris Atkinsons 4th position after 5 stages is quite encouraging, especially considering he is not at all renowned for his tarmac abilities. His third stage was quite fast although his pace has dropped right off through 4 and 5 for some reason.... is it different conditions or something compared to the other stages? Sorry here in australia all we get is stage times untill tomorrow morning when we get the day 1 highlights program...
WRC2006
19th January 2007, 12:32
The excuse for Petter will be :" Wrong Tires choice!!!" As usual!!!!
teufel
19th January 2007, 12:36
I don't think Petter should find excuses. He's not the best tarmac driver, his only tarmac win came in wet conditions when Michelin struggled. If he finishes he'll be around 4-6th place which is okay for him, i think.
jonas_mcrae
19th January 2007, 12:37
Garde again great pace, and in a 05 Mistu!!, come on Suzuki he is your man
WRC2006
19th January 2007, 12:37
Right, and this rally has been always a nightmare for him.
jonas_mcrae
19th January 2007, 12:48
Just seen some pics, and noticed that Pons Mitsu has Burguer King stikers, some good money there maybe?
Brother John
19th January 2007, 12:48
However, Petter is the best pay taxi driver in the world :D , it becomes time that them at Subaru make a very new consept!
Look at Citroën, a good balanced and manageable new car with a good engine!
Subaru has a good and fast engine but the taxi model car is just good lookin crap!
Therefore I not yet expect much improvement as from Mexico07!
teufel
19th January 2007, 12:50
You're a bit sceptic as usual, BJ...
RJL25
19th January 2007, 12:51
However, Petter is the best pay taxi driver in the world :D , it becomes time that them at Subaru make a very new consept!
Look at Citroën, a good balanced and manageable new car with a good engine!
Subaru has a good and fast engine but the taxi model car is just good lookin crap!
Therefore I not yet expect much improvement as from Mexico07!
somehow im not convinced that a cars appearance has a massive bearing on a cars performance...
WRC2006
19th January 2007, 12:55
However, Petter is the best pay taxi driver in the world :D , !
...haaaaaaaa!!!!!
Whinlatter
19th January 2007, 13:03
Sure.Reliant Robin.3 wheeler. Not sure how it fits in swedish ruts though but could be good cutting corners.
Would need ballast to meet the minimum weight requirements, I think...... ;)
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 13:04
just while nothings happening who has favorite driver of all time ,mine has to be KANKKUNEN anyone?
miksu
19th January 2007, 13:09
just while nothings happening who has favorite driver of all time ,mine has to be KANKKUNEN anyone?
he was my childhood idol too, i have to agree!
Miika
19th January 2007, 13:11
Juha was my idol as well as a kid but now I´ve started to respect more and more all of the Flying Finns of that time as well - Henkka, Alén, Vatanen and so on.
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 13:16
ill give you lads something to laugh at will show you how much of a KANKKUNEN fan i am ,check this link out of my weekend car lol
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/andysrs/Picture219-1.jpg
miksu
19th January 2007, 13:17
Juha was my idol as well as a kid but now I´ve started to respect more and more all of the Flying Finns of that time as well - Henkka, Alén, Vatanen and so on.
Maybe first it was vatanen who i was supporting...hmm hard to remember. But yes, Alén and Ari have gained lot of more of my respect since i started to learn about them! Great drivers with their own style!
WRC2006
19th January 2007, 13:18
Nice picture man!!!!!
Is that a Celica no?
miksu
19th January 2007, 13:18
ill give you lads something to laugh at will show you how much of a KANKKUNEN fan i am ,check this link out of my weekend car lol
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/andysrs/Picture219-1.jpg
OMG!! You have to post that one to Juha :D its a beauty!!
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 13:21
Thought you would like it, its the wrc homolagated road version antilag and all but its doconnected for the road,what time is ss6 starting?
miksu
19th January 2007, 13:24
ss6 will start 15.17 CET
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 13:27
Going to be a tuff stage 40klms+
talvi
19th January 2007, 13:31
any photos with the ss of yesterday and today?
Halvis
19th January 2007, 13:32
I don't think Petter should find excuses. He's not the best tarmac driver, his only tarmac win came in wet conditions when Michelin struggled. If he finishes he'll be around 4-6th place which is okay for him, i think.
Agree. Actually, except for SS3 (where he had too hard compound + puncture), he has had reasonable good stage times. Three 4th times, behind the tarmac specialists in C4 + Marcus - that's exactly where I had anticipated him.
miksu
19th January 2007, 13:38
My guess is, Marcus will give it a try and push the next one. If it doesnt pay off, he will switch it into safe -mode and say "lets see on the snow".
pentti
19th January 2007, 13:41
just while nothings happening who has favorite driver of all time ,mine has to be KANKKUNEN anyone?I hated them all.
JAM
19th January 2007, 13:41
Sure.Reliant Robin.3 wheeler. Not sure how it fits in swedish ruts though but could be good cutting corners.
This is the british car that you are talking about. These are secret tests to Sweden and Norway... Is my impression or this new car has active difs?? Matthew Wilson could be a prossible driver.. british. The car would suit perfectly to him.
Look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc5zQ9RgAI4&mode=related&search
Erki
19th January 2007, 13:41
A few posts ago NOT said that Biasion is th biggest fraud in rallying world.
I don't know much about Biasion, why is he fraud?
miksu
19th January 2007, 13:44
I hated them all.
why is that if i may ask? :)
pontdefusta
19th January 2007, 13:45
Biasion was world champion in 1988 and 1989 with the delta
if you call him a fraud....
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 13:47
Pennti was awesome!!! got his vid with the hs years in, was my second car when i left school hs chevette.
cut the b.s.
19th January 2007, 13:48
I hated them all.
:-) surely not when they were behind you Pentti?
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 13:50
Maybe first it was vatanen who i was supporting...hmm hard to remember. But yes, Alén and Ari have gained lot of more of my respect since i started to learn about them! Great drivers with their own style!
Hello youngsters, does anybody remember Rauno Aaltonen. Timo Mäkinen, Pauli Toivonen or Erik Carlsson?
Brother John
19th January 2007, 13:50
I hated them all. :laugh:
I´m a fan of all of the Flying Finns since 1972!
Since I saw you in action on the "Boucle de Spa" :up:
Whinlatter
19th January 2007, 13:51
Ari was my hero when I started watching world rallying ( it was Malcolm Wilson in National events as I lived not far from him and you always support your local hero ;) )
Ari was spectacular and drove like no one else (sorry Pentti!) - always a bit more sideways, a bit more damage on the cars and still setting fast times. Plus on the few occasions I've got to speak with him at service halts he always finds time to speak, very nice, down to earth bloke with no 'big time charlie' attitude.
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 13:51
I hated them all.
And they hated you, so that´s all square!
miksu
19th January 2007, 13:52
Hello youngsters, does anybody remember Rauno Aaltonen. Timo Mäkinen, Pauli Toivonen or Erik Carlsson?
Not really... only what i've learned now, and its not that much. :(
Miika
19th January 2007, 13:53
any photos with the ss of yesterday and today?
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2379/drh18ja07wrc6089ku6.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3406/drh18ja07wrc1258ge5.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9030/drh18ja07wrc12622qu1.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1680/drh18ja07wrc6088dh9.jpg
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 13:54
Not really... only what i've learned now, and its not that much. :(
Pity. They were the heros of Col de Turini in night and snow.
Miika
19th January 2007, 13:56
Hello youngsters, does anybody remember Rauno Aaltonen. Timo Mäkinen, Pauli Toivonen or Erik Carlsson?
Of course one has to respect them - the pioneers of the sport. It just happens to be that I grew watching GroupB era so that´s why those drivers mentioned are closer to my heart than the original Flying Finns.
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 13:57
I like pennti,s trial bike skills!!!!!!!! looked like a montesa
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 13:59
Of course one has to respect them - the pioneers of the sport. It just happens to be that I grew watching GroupB era so that´s why those drivers mentioned are closer to my heart than the original Flying Finns.
It´s not your fault, blame your parents.
miksu
19th January 2007, 14:01
Of course one has to respect them - the pioneers of the sport. It just happens to be that I grew watching GroupB era so that´s why those drivers mentioned are closer to my heart than the original Flying Finns.
Thats what i was trying to say, my thoughts exactly!
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 14:02
It´s not your fault, blame your parents.
LMAO!!! What ever happend to the like of Walter Rohl???? ps watching penti on the 88 rac on vid at the momant
ZequeArgentina
19th January 2007, 14:04
Probably wasn't a stone that hit Wilson, it was someone running alongside tapping on the window to ask why he didn't go faster! QUOTE]
lol, he was knocking hard on the window..
I really hope that the guy how thrown the stone will be find and have to take to prison, what a bloody mother****er! Did seen same onboard pictures few ago with i think Kenneth Ericsson in Argentina, also some guy throw a big stone... Why...
Alcohool..............
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 14:07
This mindless stuff rears its head alot ,didnt someone put aload of logs in front of CARLOS on the 93 rac making him crash out!!!!
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 14:08
Alcohool..............
Sounds very promising, because I´m planning a visit to Rally Argentina in May!
BTW, could I ask for your help in planning my trip?
pentti
19th January 2007, 14:10
why is that if i may ask? :) Because they were too often quicker than me.
miksu
19th January 2007, 14:28
Because they were too often quicker than me.
they just had better cars ;)
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 14:28
he he just spat me tea laughing at the text in PENTTI,s sig (where theres a shark theres a finn) LMAO
Whinlatter
19th January 2007, 14:28
Ari was my hero when I started watching world rallying ( it was Malcolm Wilson in National events as I lived not far from him and you always support your local hero ;) )
Ari was spectacular and drove like no one else (sorry Pentti!) - always a bit more sideways, a bit more damage on the cars and still setting fast times. Plus on the few occasions I've got to speak with him at service halts he always finds time to speak, very nice, down to earth bloke with no 'big time charlie' attitude.
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 14:35
Pentti was awesome too late 70,s early and 80,s Rember him giving an intervue between stagesm 79 i think and was drinking from a bottle of coke and some commetator stuck his micraphone at him for the interview and PENTTI spat a load of coke in his face he he he was very funny
miksu
19th January 2007, 14:35
Ari was my hero when I started watching world rallying ( it was Malcolm Wilson in National events as I lived not far from him and you always support your local hero ;) )
Ari was spectacular and drove like no one else (sorry Pentti!) - always a bit more sideways, a bit more damage on the cars and still setting fast times. Plus on the few occasions I've got to speak with him at service halts he always finds time to speak, very nice, down to earth bloke with no 'big time charlie' attitude.
i think that's what's quite common amongst rally drivers, stars. Yesterday i was watching this report, and they showed Marcus on the service as he was signing some autographs. Some guy asked him to do a photo with bad english and he was happy to do it, even if he obviously had to hurry (Marcus ran off immediately after posing for it).
pentti
19th January 2007, 14:39
I like pennti,s trial bike skills!!!!!!!! looked like a montesa
Yes.It was a spanish bike Montesa.Not so god now if you compare latest ones. It's shame that technolique has taken out a lot of skills in sports.
In that video, we are going to ditches with rear wheels.We were trying so hard. Why they do not do it any more?
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 14:43
Have to say i think that the like of PENTTI,VATANNEN,and all the other 70,s and 80,s drivers there was more skill involved driving a rally car no leccy gizmo,s like acctive diffs etc etc
pentti
19th January 2007, 14:46
Pentti was awesome too late 70,s early and 80,s Rember him giving an intervue between stagesm 79 i think and was drinking from a bottle of coke and some commetator stuck his micraphone at him for the interview and PENTTI spat a load of coke in his face he he he was very funnyYes. I was in big hurry. Leading 1000 lakes but some problems came(a finnish mechanic put water into fuel tank).Did you like my hat!
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 14:48
LOved the hat very funny,bet you aint got that old brown chevette anymore was it a 1.3gls?
miksu
19th January 2007, 14:51
Marcus:
-"At the end of the stage three, i was only able to use manual gear change, not the ones on the wheel. Then at the end of today's third special i had only 3rd gear on, which i used until service. It was kinda difficult during traffic lights."
Toni said the differentials are cutting too early during corners. Mikko is going for the 4th, but says they don't even have as hard tyre as Citroen is using. JM says its taking a while to adapt without any tests.
pentti
19th January 2007, 14:54
Have to say i think that the like of PENTTI,VATANNEN,and all the other 70,s and 80,s drivers there was more skill involved driving a rally car no leccy gizmo,s like acctive diffs etc etcA big difference is that none of these modern drivers seem to have any knowledge of suspension or diffs. They leave it to lap top guys,who come from racing.
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 14:58
yep agreed PENTTI i bet this is the warmest monte on record the uk is well warm today
pentti
19th January 2007, 14:59
LOved the hat very funny,bet you aint got that old brown chevette anymore was it a 1.3gls?Wonder why they do not use that colour still! Awfull.
Halvis
19th January 2007, 14:59
A big difference is that none of these modern drivers seem to have any knowledge of suspension or diffs. They leave it to lap top guys,who come from racing.
Both Henning and Petter Solberg are pretty skilled mechanics, they built rally cars from the youth. Actually, I read in a norwegian web-page that Petter adjusted his diffs himself yesterday - and got pepper from the team because of it...
pentti
19th January 2007, 15:01
Does the super special on sunday count for the rally results?
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 15:02
A big difference is that none of these modern drivers seem to have any knowledge of suspension or diffs. They leave it to lap top guys,who come from racing.
Quite understandable. In your days there were no laptops, no wise engineers, just mechanics and no high-tech electronics, so drivers had to decide the settings themselves.
miksu
19th January 2007, 15:04
Those days the needed another truck for the laptop.
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 15:05
Both Henning and Petter Solberg are pretty skilled mechanics, they built rally cars from the youth. Actually, I read in a norwegian web-page that Petter adjusted his diffs himself yesterday - and got pepper from the team because of it...
Yes ive herd he actually builds his own track cars at home!! for playing with lol
pentti
19th January 2007, 15:06
Both Henning and Petter Solberg are pretty skilled mechanics, they built rally cars from the youth. Actually, I read in a norwegian web-page that Petter adjusted his diffs himself yesterday - and got pepper from the team because of it...Being mechanic does not mean that he understand how suspension or diffs work for sett up. You mean center diff?
pentti
19th January 2007, 15:11
Quite understandable. In your days there were no laptops, no wise engineers, just mechanics and no high-tech electronics, so drivers had to decide the settings themselves.Mauri. I am still involved in modern time so called high-tech electronics. It is just I am clever enough to turn most of them off!
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 15:20
I used to like the RACE OF CHAMPIONS when michel first started it the drivers could use anything from a manta 400 to a 205T16 were it was all down to drivers skill but even the race of champions looks crap now!!
miksu
19th January 2007, 15:23
I used to like the RACE OF CHAMPIONS when michel first started it the drivers could use anything from a manta 400 to a 205T16 were it was all down to drivers skill but even the race of champions looks crap now!!
i must agree!! its so boring these days! i want some jumps and the race on gravel!!
Anyway, cars are soon on stage. Bring it on! I'm ready with my belly full of kebab!
N.O.T
19th January 2007, 15:26
ss6 is on....
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 15:26
i must agree!! its so boring these days! i want some jumps and the race on gravel!!
Anyway, cars are soon on stage. Bring it on! I'm ready with my belly full of kebab!
lol all i got is me lemslip flu drink as o got the virus from hell 1st time of work for 9yrs lol and the idea of a kebab just makes me feel sicker
pentti
19th January 2007, 15:28
Just example. Ask any rally drivers. Would you like to have this amazing gearbox,where You can change down straight from 6th gear down to 2nd or even 1rst gear. Thus not stalling engine and needed to count gears. It's called H-pattern gearbox. Now there I have heard about that gearbox before!
Guys go to your own cars and put gear liver into highest position(5th or 6th or reverse(pretending 6th).Then go down trough all gears until 1st and have somebody else to take time.Next do it from highest gear straight to 1st. Next punch this lap top guy.
miksu
19th January 2007, 15:28
lol all i got is me lemslip flu drink as o got the virus from hell 1st time of work for 9yrs lol and the idea of a kebab just makes me feel sicker
mmm...as i put it to my mouth and bite, and can feel the grease squeezing out :P delicious!!
mcmarteau
19th January 2007, 15:29
ss6 now live! here we go....vroooom
N.O.T
19th January 2007, 15:30
hmmmm....Solberg did in the 1st split the same time as Gronholm did this morning...maybe the stage was wet and now it is dry.
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 15:30
Any news of Bosse? Did they get his gearbox fixed?
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 15:30
bring it on!!!!!!!!!
Halvis
19th January 2007, 15:31
Being mechanic does not mean that he understand how suspension or diffs work for sett up. You mean center diff?
I have no idea! And I really don't know if they are that good either, just read all the time in norwegian press that they are both very technical minded.
I think that Henning has been building and selling rally cars also recently, fellow norwegian forumers, correct me if I'm wrong!
White Sauron
19th January 2007, 15:32
Hm... Slowson is even slower than Solberg H., who has less experience on tarmac... Damn, drop Matthew into trash...
Halvis
19th January 2007, 15:33
hmmmm....Solberg did in the 1st split the same time as Gronholm did this morning...maybe the stage was wet and now it is dry.
And 2.nd split 2 secs faster...
Brother John
19th January 2007, 15:33
Just example. Ask any rally drivers. Would you like to have this amazing gearbox,where You can change down straight from 6th gear down to 2nd or even 1rst gear. Thus not stalling engine and needed to count gears. It's called H-pattern gearbox. Now there I have heard about that gearbox before!
Guys go to your own cars and put gear liver into highest position(5th or 6th or reverse(pretending 6th).Then go down trough all gears until 1st and have somebody else to take time.Next do it from highest gear straight to 1st. Next punch this lap top guy.
I still do it that way. :s mokin: :p :
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 15:35
i can see wilson looseing 20secs+ on this won stage!!
Halvis
19th January 2007, 15:35
Hm... Slowson is even slower than Solberg H., who has less experience on tarmac... Damn, drop Matthew into trash...
I think you will find that Henning goes notably quicker now, when he has a little more feel for the car. It can only go better, otherwise I will be very dissapointed!
White Sauron
19th January 2007, 15:37
I have a strong feeling FIA made changes in the route special for Citroen to dominate...
blah, just a fantasmagory...
White Sauron
19th January 2007, 15:38
I think you will find that Henning goes notably quicker now, when he has a little more feel for the car. It can only go better, otherwise I will be very dissapointed!
Sure about Solberg. But why doesn't Wilson have this feel fo the car? He's been driving it for the whole season!
Donney
19th January 2007, 15:40
He is younger and less experienced, supposedly.
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 15:42
Dont forget eurosport 4pm and 10pm for highlites of todays stages
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 15:43
kopecky shifting!!!
mcmarteau
19th January 2007, 15:45
atkinson is on form! cant believe how well he is performing on tarmac!
Brother John
19th January 2007, 15:46
Dont forget eurosport 4pm and 10pm for highlites of todays stages
Here we have to wait till 11.30pm tonight! :confused:
edacurf
19th January 2007, 15:47
atkinson is on form! cant believe how well he is performing on tarmac!
stohl "the privat team" is also very very well
White Sauron
19th January 2007, 15:48
And guess who burns?! Hirvonen burns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
White Sauron
19th January 2007, 15:48
Here we have to wait till 11.30pm tonight! :confused:
1:30 am, how do you like it?))
Corny
19th January 2007, 15:48
Dont forget eurosport 4pm and 10pm for highlites of todays stages
?? Don't know which eurosport you've got, but the daycoverage of my eurosport will be 00.20 (tomorrow :D )
miksu
19th January 2007, 15:51
Marcus attacks!!!
Whinlatter
19th January 2007, 15:51
Sure about Solberg. But why doesn't Wilson have this feel fo the car? He's been driving it for the whole season!
Not the whole season - he only did 4 rounds I think in the 06 car, plus one local rally in December.
Looking on the bright side, at least he hasn't binned it like his recce car. :)
Finni
19th January 2007, 15:51
Sordo +2
White Sauron
19th January 2007, 15:52
Gronholm reigns!~
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 15:53
?? Don't know which eurosport you've got, but the daycoverage of my eurosport will be 00.20 (tomorrow :D )
i got 2 eurosports rally review 4pm and 10pm today just had a look on sky
Brother John
19th January 2007, 15:53
?? Don't know which eurosport you've got, but the daycoverage of my eurosport will be 00.20 (tomorrow :D )
Here they told yesterday on the prévieuw, we see you back on 11.30pm tomorow. Eurosport 1!!!!
miksu
19th January 2007, 15:53
Garde losing time...damned! it should have been wet...
Corny
19th January 2007, 15:53
Think there are Citroen orders :(
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 15:54
Loeb is going for it!!!!!!!!!!
Finni
19th January 2007, 15:55
I thin we can see now the effect of Subaru's tyre move. It seems now that they can possibly keep up with Hirvonen's pace. Last year they were light years away from Fords in dry tarmac.
White Sauron
19th January 2007, 15:55
Think there are Citroen orders :(
It's not in Loeb's favor, if Gronholm passes Sordo with two snow rallies then to go...
jonas_mcrae
19th January 2007, 15:56
Marcus pushing...
Whinlatter
19th January 2007, 15:56
Gronholms time at 3rd split is 27 seconds quicker than the fastest car at the point on the first run...... :)
Finni
19th January 2007, 15:57
Loeb is on attack.
jonkka
19th January 2007, 15:57
BFG already got Petter's comments :eek:
White Sauron
19th January 2007, 15:57
Loeb +5 in one split!!! How come?!! It's physically impossible...
[WRCRR]
19th January 2007, 15:57
Marcus pushing...
But Loeb is on a different level again...
Donney
19th January 2007, 15:58
Good 3rd split for Sordo.
miksu
19th January 2007, 15:58
What happened to stohl between 4th and 5th :S
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 15:58
i was right wilson lost 20 secs on that stage
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 15:59
Things happen on this stage!
edacurf
19th January 2007, 15:59
Stohl had a problem..........
Corny
19th January 2007, 15:59
It's not in Loeb's favor, if Gronholm passes Sordo with two snow rallies then to go...
To be honest, I think that C4 is so quick that it will win everywhere..
Citroen cars are a like a tank and F1 car in one, they never break and are so fast, that nothing else can hold them..
jonkka
19th January 2007, 15:59
Stohl got probs at split 5
White Sauron
19th January 2007, 15:59
Damn... Maybe Loeb's GPS is broken?(((
Finni
19th January 2007, 16:01
It's dissappointing to note but it seems that Citroens are unbeatable. It will be hard to Marcus to beat even Sordo in any tarmac rally.
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 16:02
GARDY looks like he,s shifting!!!!
seph
19th January 2007, 16:04
Impressive Seb!!!
At half way of the stage, 13 secs to Dani and 14 to Marcus!!!
Brother John
19th January 2007, 16:04
Real fight between Gardemeister and Stohl! :up:
AndyRAC
19th January 2007, 16:04
I still do it that way. :s mokin: :p :
Here, here, so do I.
I wonder if the H-Pattern gearbox will ever catch on? He he!!
Brother John
19th January 2007, 16:05
Impressive Seb!!!
At half way of the stage, 13 secs to Dani and 14 to Marcus!!!
That proofs it´s not the car but it is Loeb!
miksu
19th January 2007, 16:06
Real fight between Gardemeister and Stohl! :up:
yeah, i think thats where im concentrating now on :)
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 16:07
Do we have to believe in these splits?
White Sauron
19th January 2007, 16:07
That proofs it´s not the car but it is Loeb!
That's what I'm trying to say...
seph
19th January 2007, 16:07
That proofs it´s not the car but it is Loeb!
Well, I think C4 is also a rocket... Now, we have to check if it's reliable or not...
Let's see...
Brother John
19th January 2007, 16:08
Stohl has problems, hit somthing!
miksu
19th January 2007, 16:08
Stohl must have broken a tyre or something...
White Sauron
19th January 2007, 16:10
Let's have a bet if at least one Citroen retires! I think that will happen. I don't believe it can win with 1-2 with a new car... shock...
seph
19th January 2007, 16:11
Stohl on trouble. He's speaking at the radio, and they've said that he has some damage on his car...
He's lost some seconds on the stage... 19 to Latvala (best time at the moment).
seph
19th January 2007, 16:18
Marcus lost some seconds to Mikko and Chris in the last split.
Loeb's gonna beat him by half a minute more or less... Wow!!!
seph
19th January 2007, 16:20
17 secs to Sordo
24 to Gronholm
30 to Hirvonen
31 to Atkinson
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 16:20
Dam loebs C4 is quick 6 out of 7 fastest splits!!!!!!!!!!!
miksu
19th January 2007, 16:21
Atkins faster than Petter, impressive
N.O.T
19th January 2007, 16:21
Loeb and Sordo are simply on a different level....Atkinson shows that the subaru has a little life left in it yet....hope the new version is coming stronger than this.
Sébastien Loeb
Citroen Finished stage with damage to co-driver's door. "I lost a bit of brake in the middle of the stage. I was pushing hard, I hit a little bridge."
Marcus Gronholm
Ford Finished the stage, was not happy
Mikko Hirvonen
Ford "Driving the car is a lot better. I was pushing like hell, but I didn't take a lot of time back in there"
Manfred Stohl
Citroen Finished stage with some damage to front right. "We lost the front brake completely, I was quite lucky to finish"
Petter Solberg
Subaru "I tried"
Chris Atkinson
Subaru "For some reason this stage seems to work for us. It's a tricky second pass, and the first time on a hard compound."
Jari-Matti Latvala
Ford "It felt quite alright, the sun was shining quite hard, difficult to see at some times. Just braking too early"
Henning Solberg
Ford "I lost my brakes in there, so I have to push the brakes twice before every corner" smoke coming from the rear of the car at the stage finish (brakes)
Matthew Wilson
Ford "There is a little bit more gravel about, also the stage is starting to dry out. There's some g-forces about!"
Jan Kopecky
Skoda "The brakes are a little bit overheated"
Jean-Marie Cuoq
Peugeot "It was completely different, the sun was quite difficult. The top ten for me is good"
Toni Gardemeister
Mitsubishi "It is good, we are ahead of Manfred (Stohl)"
seph
19th January 2007, 16:23
Standings after 6 stages
1 LOEB
CITROEN 01:39:40.4 +00.0
2 SORDO
CITROEN 01:40:04.1 +23.7
3 GRÖNHOLM
FORD 01:40:41.0 +01:00.6
4 ATKINSON
SUBARU 01:41:45.6 +02:05.2
5 HIRVONEN
FORD 01:42:01.7 +02:21.3
6 GARDEMEISTER
Mitsubishi 01:42:13.6 +02:33.2
7 SOLBERG
SUBARU 01:42:24.1 +02:43.7
8 STOHL
CITROEN 01:42:25.1 +02:44.7
9 KOPECKY
SKODA 01:42:46.8 +03:06.4
10 LATVALA
FORD 01:43:13.9 +03:33.5
Brother John
19th January 2007, 16:23
Both C4´s have som brake troubles or what? small damage on Loeb´s car? like I said, fast can be dangerous!
White Sauron
19th January 2007, 16:23
Damn... WHy is Loeb always hitting something, but doesn't have any consequances?!!
Whinlatter
19th January 2007, 16:24
Wilson finally beats MacHale, and beats his own morning time by 1.5 minutes. :)
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 16:24
Good battle going on between these three
4 C. Atkinson
5 M. Hirvonen
6 T. Gardemeister
miksu
19th January 2007, 16:24
i think Sordo and Loeb had different rubbers... and thats where it comes
janneppi
19th January 2007, 16:24
Hirvonen would've wanted a harder compound, but apparently Ford doesn't have as hard compounds as Citroen.
miksu
19th January 2007, 16:26
I hope Loeb doesnt get the same result as Mikko at GB
White Sauron
19th January 2007, 16:29
I hope Loeb doesnt get the same result as Mikko at GB
I hope he does... It's just dangerous for him to drive in a car with damaged roll cage
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 16:30
Hirvonen would've wanted a harder compound, but apparently Ford doesn't have as hard compounds as Citroen.
As said many times before, the most famous rubber roulette in rallying.
miksu
19th January 2007, 16:30
I hope he does... It's just dangerous for him to drive in a car with damaged roll cage
sure, if it is damaged
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 16:31
I think if the C4,s stay reliable it will be citreon 1-2 the other cars dont seam in the same league
jonas_mcrae
19th January 2007, 16:32
any pics? or videos? only have the ones from ewrc.com
Halvis
19th January 2007, 16:34
Wilson finally beats MacHale, and beats his own morning time by 1.5 minutes. :)
And Henning was 2.5 minutes quicker this time - without breaks. Still too far behind, but it's valuable time in the car!
Finni
19th January 2007, 16:35
i think Sordo and Loeb had different rubbers... and thats where it comes
Have they had different rubers in all of the stages since they have won them all???
miksu
19th January 2007, 16:39
Have they had different rubers in all of the stages since they have won them all???
I meant that Loeb might have different than Sordo.
But also, referring to your post, Mikko said they dont even have so hard rubbers with them that Citroen has. I dont know if Cs have used the hard ones in all the stages.
Corny
19th January 2007, 16:45
is this the last stage of the day?
mcmarteau
19th January 2007, 16:46
is this the last stage of the day?
2 more
miksu
19th January 2007, 16:46
is this the last stage of the day?
2 more to come, short ones. starting 17:11 and 17:57
miksu
19th January 2007, 16:47
is this the last stage of the day?
2 more to come, short ones. starting 17:11 and 17:57
mcmarteau
19th January 2007, 16:47
anyone has any videos of last nights or todays early satges?
pentti
19th January 2007, 16:48
I hope he does... It's just dangerous for him to drive in a car with damaged roll cageNot so in Mikko's case because the damage was only in the bottom cage. And even so all you need the driver and team to sign a piece of the paper , saying it's safe to carry on. We do not want to loose one of front runners.
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 16:48
im of to watch it on eurosport in 20 mins he he
jonas_mcrae
19th January 2007, 16:51
im of to watch it on eurosport in 20 mins he he
really? got to watch it too
mcmarteau
19th January 2007, 16:53
lucky sods....
Brother John
19th January 2007, 16:56
im of to watch it on eurosport in 20 mins he he
But not on Eurosport!??
miksu
19th January 2007, 16:56
Mikko:
-"we dont have the tyre for these conditions. Driving is very hard at the moment".
Rubber Rally.
mcmarteau
19th January 2007, 16:57
ss7 should be live now, but no splits yet...( no sorry, mistook the time...) its actually 17;11 mc time
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 16:58
yes on euro sport 4pm gmt
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 17:01
Hold your seats dont rush of just checked info on eurosport its monte review at 4pm and action from todays stages at 22:45pm tonight
Brother John
19th January 2007, 17:10
:p aper: New car?
Transmission and suspension were litle changed from the Xsara WRC!
http://www.wrc.com/page/News/Breakin...967565,00.html (http://www.wrc.com/page/News/BreakingNewsDetail/0,,10111~967565,00.html)
ZequeArgentina
19th January 2007, 17:18
Sounds very promising, because I´m planning a visit to Rally Argentina in May!
BTW, could I ask for your help in planning my trip?
Sure, if you preffer, you can PM me o by e-mail.
Donney
19th January 2007, 17:21
SS7 is under way
mcmarteau
19th January 2007, 17:22
here we go!
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 17:25
Sure, if you preffer, you can PM me o by e-mail.
Thanks, I´ll contact you later!
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 17:25
WATCHING THE 1984 MONTE god the snow was deep!!!!
mcmarteau
19th January 2007, 17:25
here guys, i think im gonna take up the wrc+ subscription as it says the superspecial will be live, do you think its worth the money? please advise if you have any exprerience of wrc+
seph
19th January 2007, 17:27
Wilson slower than Henning. lol.
Jari Matti too. xD
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 17:28
latvalas quicker than wilson on 1st split
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 17:31
latvalas quicker than wilson on 1st split
Is it a surprise?
seph
19th January 2007, 17:31
Stage end: Henning 16 secs quicker than Wilson. wow!!!
HaCo
19th January 2007, 17:33
It's not normal, because he is as fast as his first run... 10:05:X
miksu
19th January 2007, 17:33
Go Garde GO!!!
Halvis
19th January 2007, 17:34
Glad to see Henning picking up the speed compared to all!
ZequeArgentina
19th January 2007, 17:35
Stohl in problems, +11 secnds in first split over henning.....
miksu
19th January 2007, 17:35
Wow... i feel sorry for Stohl. had such a good fight...
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 17:36
Stohl has lost it!
miksu
19th January 2007, 17:36
Garde is really putting some pressure on the pedal!! great!!
seph
19th January 2007, 17:37
Latvala best than Henning at the end.
Kopecky and Gardemeister can achieve good times.
HaCo
19th January 2007, 17:37
Jep, 17secs on the first split is a lot!
Henning was as fast as his first run on that stage, so it's not that fast, the others are just slow!
Donney
19th January 2007, 17:37
Stohl's brakes are gonna cost him a lot of time.
jonkka
19th January 2007, 17:38
here guys, i think im gonna take up the wrc+ subscription as it says the superspecial will be live, do you think its worth the money? please advise if you have any exprerience of wrc+
I have no experience of WRC+ but superspecial, even live, isn't worth a cent.
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 17:39
garde is shifting!!!!
HaCo
19th January 2007, 17:40
Garde is going well, good to see that the Mitsu is going well! :D :D
jonkka
19th January 2007, 17:40
Indeed he is!
seph
19th January 2007, 17:42
Stohl is losing 37 secs to Gardemeister in 3rd (of 4) split.
seph
19th January 2007, 17:45
Sordo 2,6 secs faster than Marcus in 1st split!!!
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 17:46
blimey sordo,s going for it
HaCo
19th January 2007, 17:47
Atkinson has beaten Solberg again...
White Sauron
19th January 2007, 17:47
And Atko is constantly beating Solberg.. Great!
Mauri A
19th January 2007, 17:47
Do you fellow Finns know when the Citroen dealers shops open tomorrow?
FabiaFan
19th January 2007, 17:48
Matthew Slowson & Henning Slowberg....
Doesn't Matthew "Willslow" sound better?!?
seph
19th January 2007, 17:48
And Loeb 1,4 secs ahead Dani, so 4 secs to Marcus
WHITE WRC
19th January 2007, 17:48
think loeb is untouchable
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