Official JWRC Thread

[Sulland]

Lets try to collect all JWRC discussion here, so we have it all in one place !

[Sulland]

Taken from WRC.com season intro of JWRC

The cars
The FIA Junior World Rally Championship is the world's premier motorsport category for B-Segment cars - the category often described as the 'hot hatchbacks'. All cars in the J-WRC are front wheel drive and have a total length of 3600 - 4150 mm.
Eligible cars must be homologated in one of four technical classes defined by the FIA:
1 - Super 1600 (engine capacity less than 1600cc)
2 - Group N cars (engine capacity of less than 2000cc)
3 - Selected Group A cars (engine capacity of less than 2000cc)
4 - Group R cars

2006 was the first time that cars from Group A and Group N were eligible for the FIA J-WRC. Although it can be expected that Super 1600 cars will battle for overall glory, Group A and N cars are the only cars eligible for the Rookie Award.


Anyone that know what cars have been selected for point 3: Selected Gr A cars ?

[Tom206wrc]

Can't wait for Mexico to start today and see the evolution of Sébastien Ogier !! :)

[consti]

same with me and aaron burkart, talked to him few weeks ago and he was really confident to be in the top four!

[Mirek]

With his experience and the competition he should be.

[Whinlatter]

Can't wait for Mexico to start today and see the evolution of Sébastien Ogier !! :)
How quick do you expect Ogier to be, compared to people like Tirabassi and Bonato?

[Viking]

http://www.patriksandell.com/english

"3rd on Shakedown!
The feeling in the car during shakedown was really good. We found a good speed and the few seconds up to the top is nothing we are thinking about. The most important thing is that the feeling in car is good!

Now we are looking forward until tomorrow and for sure we're aiming for 1st position from the beginning!"

[Tom206wrc]

How quick do you expect Ogier to be, compared to people like Tirabassi and Bonato?



Difficult to say in fact :mark:

[Abarth]

Have renault made a S1600 Clio ph3, or is it still only in the older ph2 config ?

[PLuto]

JWRC shakedown times:

1. Mölder 3:18.2
2. Prokop 3:19.8
3. Sandell 3:20.5
4. Ogier 3:21.0
5. Kosciuszko 3:21.9

Some photos here: http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=24&p=2219#p2219

[ProRally]

JWRC shakedown times:

1. Mölder 3:18.2
2. Prokop 3:19.8
3. Sandell 3:20.5
4. Ogier 3:21.0
5. Kosciuszko 3:21.9

Some photos here: http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=24&p=2219#p2219


Great pictures

[Micke_VOC]

Have renault made a S1600 Clio ph3, or is it still only in the older ph2 config ?

Is the Old Ph2 , the same type that he won jwrc in 2006

[dumb]

Nice performance by Ogier.And Molder is great.

[Mirek]

There will be Martin Prokop's onboards both from JWRC and PWRC published here:
http://www.mediasport.cz/videa/rok-2008

[Sulland]

Anyone that know which of the two french S1600 cars that are the best one, and what the differences are ?

[Tom206wrc]

Anyone that know which of the two french S1600 cars that are the best one, and what the differences are ?



The Renault Clio was the reference(the best one at the time Jean-Joseph, Tirabassi and Robert drove it), but it looks like the Citroën C2 has done enough progress to catch the Clio by now :confused:

[Wim_Impreza]

Don't forget that the Clio is an older car than the C2.

[Mirek]

Yes, it is older, but it was still developed during it's life. Both cars are reported to have very strong engine (C2 with much more torque than Swift for example). C2 is the smallest and widest car which is great for tarmac in my opinion. In my oppinion C2 is clearly better on tarmac but I'm not sure about gravel. Clio is without doubts very reliable.

By the way, Martin Prokop reported that he had two crankshaft sensor failures and no power steering with a small fire during the rally so far. Of course plus that roll on the first stage (and broken windows after that).

[Sulland]

I am just guessing here, but I have read that the new phase (Mk) 3 Clio will never come in a S1600 config, but in a R3 Turbo version.

Anyone with more info on this one ?

[Mirek]

What is R3 Turbo?

[Sulland]

I have loaned this from the forum here: http://www.rallye-info.com/forum.asp?sid=0&boardid=1&action=thread&threadid=6789&new=14&page=1


"In France and Spain there is there is from 2008 a class called R3T, which is R3 turbo cars, costing very little, but obviously only having 2WD. Seeing some of the R3 cars I wouldn't be surprised if these low budget R3T's would beat S2000 cars sometimes at least on asphalt."

I have googled it but can not find anything on it - does anyone else know of this class in the two countries ?

[Sulland]

Edit: Found it : look here under 4.1 B and C - http://www.ffsa.org/telctdc.php?id=1294&cat=docffsa

Here is R3T mentioned !

Do not know more, like specs and so on !

[Mirek]

Sounds interesting. It looks like they want to use the most common hot hatches. The large majority of those cars use turbos. It is particullarly logical since more strict emission standards leads to large using of turbos in road cars. I have nothing against. It would be good to have a chance to use all those hot hatches and some biger cars as well on stages. There are a looot of them:

Opel Astra OPC
Opel Corsa OPC
Peugeot 207 RC
VW Golf GTI
Mazda 3 MPS
Seat Leon Cupra
etc.

I'm interested in the regulations. I think that those cars should be strictly gr.N without big modiffications so as not to be too fast and too expensive.

[consti]

The german Internet-Site of 1aSport.de had an Interview with Aaron Burkart, here are some extracts:

question: last week the jwrc startet in its season. what was the spirit like?

burkart: the spirit was simply great! i have never given that much autographs before. but it also gave me great pleasure to see that many people with the same enthusiasm for this sport as myself.

question: at the end you achieved fourth place. are you satisfied with the result?

keeping in mind that we have did not know the route and first time suffered low engine power because of the high altitude the result was all right. nevertheless the fourth place is always ungrateful, but this year there are more rallies where we focus on podium places.

full interview at: http://www.1asport.de/sport/Motorsport/Aaron_Burkart__Deutschland_fehlt_die_Rallye_Mafia_ pn_75103N.html (i can translate more if you want me to)

[pantealex]

http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2008/March/210308-01.html
9 driver entry and 9 team entry = 18 cars in 2008 serie, 16 of those in next event in Jordania, all of them in Italy and Spain.

[PJRevs]

Sandell and Komljenovic take easy two day test on mountain Tara in Serbia for Jordan Rally.

http://www.automagazin.co.yu/sport.php?tip=wrc&v=2008-04-06%2003:41:50&n=WRC%20-%20Sandell%20i%20Komljenović%20-%20testovi%20na%20Tari

[dumb]

Will Sandell run in Jordania with Clio R3?

[PJRevs]

No. This is road Renault Sport Clio. They just use it to make some improvements in pacenotes ang get used to macadam roads, similar to Jordan tracks

[Sarac330d]

Patrik Sandell was in Italy last Wednesday to test his ClioS1600 before Jordan Rally, he made final setings with suspension and he get new engine and gearbox for his car.
New engine was on dyno and showed 238ps.

[Sulland]

Has Renault ever made a S1600 using a Ph 3 chassis ?

[urabus-denoS2000]

Has Renault ever made a S1600 using a Ph 3 chassis ?

No,not as I know

[Mirek]

Martin Prokop was testing on gravel (video):
http://cametech.webnode.com/products/videoklip-testovani-martina-prokopa/

[dumb]

Crap.Vilius Rožukas missed rally Jordan.He was on the list but that weekend he was in Lithuania...He is also in Sardinia list.Maybe this time he will do the rally :/

I hope,he won't have a DQ for season?Can somebody say smth. to me about this?

[pantealex]

Crap.Vilius Rožukas missed rally Jordan.He was on the list but that weekend he was in Lithuania...He is also in Sardinia list.Maybe this time he will do the rally :/

I hope,he won't have a DQ for season?Can somebody say smth. to me about this?
He´s is DQ for season, source wrc.com:

"Vilius Rozukas (LT, Citroën) did not start the rally due to a problem with sponsors and, as a result, has been excluded from the 2008 FIA J-WRC by the Stewards of the rally, in accordance with the regulations."

[dumb]

He´s is DQ for season, source wrc.com:

"Vilius Rozukas (LT, Citroën) did not start the rally due to a problem with sponsors and, as a result, has been excluded from the 2008 FIA J-WRC by the Stewards of the rally, in accordance with the regulations."


Thanks for info.

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[DonJippo]

He´s is DQ for season, source wrc.com:

"Vilius Rozukas (LT, Citroën) did not start the rally due to a problem with sponsors and, as a result, has been excluded from the 2008 FIA J-WRC by the Stewards of the rally, in accordance with the regulations."


Was there a full number of entries to JWRC this year? Would have been pity for someone willing to join if his place was taken by a driver who didn't have money to run the series...

[ProRally]

He´s is DQ for season, source wrc.com:

"Vilius Rozukas (LT, Citroën) did not start the rally due to a problem with sponsors and, as a result, has been excluded from the 2008 FIA J-WRC by the Stewards of the rally, in accordance with the regulations."

And he can expect a fine from the FIA as happend in the past in JWRC and PWRC

[dumb]

So that's it.Vilius Rožukas is diqualified from the championship and he has financial penality.

[Sulland]

Good JWRC battle in Sardinia with the R3 cars mixing fine with the S1600 cars.
25 sec difference btw the top 3, something to follow tomorrow !

Bettega is driving well in the Clio R3, but it would be nice to see a Honda Civic R3 in that battle as well, might be a winner.

I'm waiting for the Anderson and Per-Gunnar actions in JWRC

[Mirek]

Martin Prokop was testing C4 WRC - onboard: http://www.mediasport.cz/videa/rok-2008

[RS]

Wow, really nobody follows JWRC. Two pages for whole thread and last post in May.

Edit, wohoo, I just made it three :D

[PLuto]

Quality of JWRC is worse and worse each year. I think good for them should be cancel this championship or completely reorganize it.

[RS]

Quality of JWRC is worse and worse each year. I think good for them should be cancel this championship or completely reorganize it.

Maybe they should scrap jWRC and the "Mitsubishi Gravel Cup" (pWRC) and maybe run just one support championship, perhaps for R2 and R3 cars?

[Roy]

Wow, really nobody follows JWRC. Two pages for whole thread and last post in May.

Edit, wohoo, I just made it three :D

http://wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=901&id=3010&desc=Winners%20of%20the%20FIA%20ASN%20Cup%20aim%20 to%20defend%20title%20in%202009

Now I will follow ;)

[Sulland]

R2 for Juniors and R3 for privateers and S2000 (R4) for WRC.

Done deal !

[Mirek]

I think that WRC deserves more power ;)

[dumb]

Privateers in 2WD? Pitty if so.

[Roy]

WRC = Dead. I follow J-WRC in 2009.
The Dutch are here again! :D

http://wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=101&id=3568&desc=Dutch%20federation%20confirms%20its%202009%20 line-up

[pantealex]

I couldn´t find JWRC 2009 thread
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2009/Pages/wrc_entrants.aspx
JWRC entrylist 2009, only 9 cars :mad:

[Roy]

JWRC is dead to :\ Less cars, but (maybe) good drivers.

But the Dutch are in :bounce:

[urabus-denoS2000]

9 cars?????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????

Terrible,there will never be enough drivers to fill the points???????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????

[Mirek]

Yes, it's dead.

Maybe I should have entered JWRC with some cheap gr.N car and I would take points (I have never driven a rally car)...

[pantealex]

With 2 guest drivers there is 11 cars maximum. Rally Ireland only 8 cars (7+1guest) and because they drive 6/8 rallies, there will be less than 10 cars in every rally!

[Wim_Impreza]

JWRC is dead to :\ Less cars, but (maybe) good drivers.

But the Dutch are in :bounce:

The only driver that is really good from this list is Martin Prokop, all the others are not good enough.

[urabus-denoS2000]

The only driver that is really good from this list is Martin Prokop, all the others are not good enough.

I can only add Kosciuszko to the list

So we have 2 quality drivers................

[PLuto]

Ok, if I take your calculations, you have two quality drivers. Remember JWRC three years ago? Sandell, Aava, Andersson, Wilks, Pressac, Beres, Molder, Casier, Meeke, Betti, Rautenbach...

[jonas_mcrae]

Ok, if I take your calculations, you have two quality drivers. Remember JWRC three years ago? Sandell, Aava, Andersson, Wilks, Pressac, Beres, Molder, Casier, Meeke, Betti, Rautenbach...


even Rautenbach wasnt crashing that much...

[Mirek]

Pluto: And Prokop and Valoušek...

[urabus-denoS2000]

Ok, if I take your calculations, you have two quality drivers. Remember JWRC three years ago? Sandell, Aava, Andersson, Wilks, Pressac, Beres, Molder, Casier, Meeke, Betti, Rautenbach...

Yep I remember that,add Valda to that list ;)

Now seriously this is a disaster :mad:

[urabus-denoS2000]

Mirek was faster....








He always is :D

[MJW]

2009 should be the last year of JWRC. To retain credibility JWRC should use cheaper cars, e.g Fiesta ST or Citroen C2R2, it should be an entry level ckass and allow PCWRC to be 1 step below (feeder class) and then the top class.

[Roy]

The 2 Dutch Drivers are back in JWRC. Hans Weijs skip Turkey and Kevin Abbring skip Spain.

[morganmilan]

The 2 Dutch Drivers are back in JWRC. Hans Weijs skip Turkey and Kevin Abbring skip Spain.
Which cars will they drive? I guess Abbring with Clio R3, but Weijs?

[Roy]

Car is unknown yet. I suppose same car as last year.

[Barreis]

First time Citroen didn't put their JWRC champ to WRC car..

[alleskids]

The 2009 JuniorWRC champ jump from teams. Ford offered him a better offer for the future. Smart choise for Prokop, especially because he lacks the French nationality :) . Ford welcoms talents from all nations.

[Barreis]

He had to pay to ford also.. Citroen wanted him to pay 'cos no more Russian or Zimbabvean money that much..

[noel157]

The 2009 JuniorWRC champ jump from teams. Ford offered him a better offer for the future. Smart choise for Prokop, especially because he lacks the French nationality :) .



Ford welcoms talents from all nations. And money..........

[alleskids]

But for that amount of money he is allowed to win, even if the favorite of the manufacturer is driving behind him

[br21]

Abbring in Clio R3, Weijs jr. in C2 S1600 at the beginning of the season, later we will see...

[bluuford]

Oliver Kruuda (Son of Urmo Aava main backer) joins JWRC. Car will be Suzuki Swift S1600 by Suzuki Sport Europe. He takes part in Tutkey, Portugal, Germany, Spain and Bulgaria. And also in Jordan he takes Suzuki as a test.

[RICARDO75]

Karl Kruuda is Olivier Kruuda?

[bluuford]

Karl Kruuda is Olivier Kruuda?
LOL I messed up again. Karl is the son of Oliver who was that backer. Driver is still Karl Kruuda not his father. Codriver will be Ken Järveoja.

[Brother John]

The 2009 JuniorWRC champ jump from teams. Ford offered him a better offer for the future. Smart choise for Prokop, especially because he lacks the French nationality :) . Ford welcoms talents from all nations.

French- nationality!! :rolleyes: Carefully because they don´t like negative talk about the french here on the forum!!! :p . Don´t you see that many french have disappeared on this forum the last years? ;)

[PJRevs]

Can anyone post the list of JWRC drivers for this season?

[RICARDO75]

Valdes Lopes
Loic Mattei
Todor Slavov
TEAM SAB MOT.
Thierry Neuville
Hans Weijs Jr.
Kevin Abbring
Karl Kruuda

[pantealex]

Valdes Lopes
Loic Mattei
Todor Slavov
TEAM SAB MOT.
Thierry Neuville
Hans Weijs Jr.
Kevin Abbring
Karl Kruuda
+Broccoli

[Mirek]

Broccoli = Team SAB, he is already at the list of Ricardo ;)

[RICARDO75]

Thank you Mirek, I forgot who was the pilot from SAB MOTORSPORT

[DonJippo]

+Broccoli

Any news of Antipasto :confused:

[Mirek]

He will drive his 207 S2000 this weekend in Rally Castelli Romani.

[Eyvind]

Probably spaniard Yeray Lemes in JWRC 2010 (car not confirmed).
He takes part in Portugal, Bulgaria, Germany, France, Spain.

[Fly]

Burkart on the Swift S1600 and Mathieu Arzeno on the C2 S1600 expected to join JWRC.

http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blog/?p=10204

[PJRevs]

Burkart driving for Suzuki Sport Europe

http://www.suzukisport-europe.com/press/jwrc/2010/driver_aaron/index.html

[harriswrc]

Updated list with drivers competing at JWRC
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2010/Pages/jwrc_entrants.aspx

[tolis]

Thanks Harris!!!!!!

[Wasted Talent]

Any news of Antipasto :confused:

She doesn't rally anymore since meeting Uncle Pizza

WT

[RICARDO75]

Tests from Todor Slavov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThOhMD2UQfw

[Barreis]

What's this Jolly Club? Famous Jolly Club from ninties?

[RICARDO75]

Yeray Lemes with a Renault Clio S1600 in the JWRC

[Francis44]

Yeray Lemes with a Renault Clio S1600 in the JWRC

Really great news, I hope we can see him at Rally of Portugal in May!!!!

[EavesFan09]

Yeray Lemes with a Renault Clio S1600 in the JWRC

Season long campaign?

[RICARDO75]

Really great news, I hope we can see him at Rally of Portugal in May!!!!

Yes we will see him there.
2010 program:
Portugal, Bulgária, Germany, France and Spain