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Hazell B
23rd February 2008, 19:55
A direct quote from Peter Sissions (sp?) on UK BBC News 24 earlier this evening ....

"..... from George Bush and British PM Gordon Brown ...."

How come the viewer is told Gordon Brown's job and not what George Bush is employed as? Whoever wrote that autocue wants shooting if they think we Brits need telling who our own PM is yet we're automatically expected to know Bush :mark:

Talk about treating us like morons :(

Drew
23rd February 2008, 20:10
I often forget that Gordon Brown is the prime minister, but never that George Bush is the president.

Eki
23rd February 2008, 20:32
Talk about treating us like morons :(
Takes one (moron) to know one (Bush).

anthonyvop
23rd February 2008, 21:39
Takes one (moron) to know one (Bush).

He is the elected president of the World's only Super Power and you are some finnish, wannabee socialist posting on a message board call him a Moron!

Really who is the Moron here?

fandango
23rd February 2008, 21:43
He is the elected president of the World's only Super Power and you are some finnish, wannabee socialist posting on a message board call him a Moron!

Really who is the Moron here?

A most constructive post.

(It's called irony, Tony, now go and polish your missiles).

BDunnell
23rd February 2008, 21:44
He is the elected president of the World's only Super Power and you are some finnish, wannabee socialist posting on a message board call him a Moron!

Really who is the Moron here?

Well, Eki writes in better English than you.

Brown, Jon Brow
23rd February 2008, 22:27
He is the elected president of the World's only Super Power and you are some finnish, wannabee socialist posting on a message board call him a Moron!

Really who is the Moron here?

Yourself??? :confused:

:erm:

ioan
23rd February 2008, 22:33
He is the elected president of the World's only Super Power and you are some finnish, wannabee socialist posting on a message board call him a Moron!


You mean the country with the biggest "Super Powerful" economical recession looming on it? :p :


Really who is the Moron here?

Do we need to answer this?!

BDunnell
23rd February 2008, 23:04
Do we need to answer this?!

I think we might... ;)

bowler
23rd February 2008, 23:59
This thread is about the English media, and yes they do treat people like morons at times.

Camelopard
24th February 2008, 02:27
Really who is the Moron here?

Hmmmm. given the level of your purile comments, I'd put you way up there :p :.

TOgoFASTER
24th February 2008, 03:15
He is the elected president of the World's only Super Power and you are some finnish, wannabee socialist posting on a message board call him a Moron!

Really who is the Moron here?

LOL

L5->R5/CR
24th February 2008, 06:07
You mean the country with the biggest "Super Powerful" economical recession looming on it? :p :




Yeah, but we're taking all of Europe with US! :/

Camelopard
24th February 2008, 06:44
It does not worry me, I'm doing very nicely as I've got shares in Halliburton, KBR and Boeing, all doing well thanks to a little conflagration in the Middle East :p ::p ::p :.

millencolin
24th February 2008, 06:59
He is the elected president of the World's only Super Power and you are some finnish, wannabee socialist posting on a message board call him a Moron!

Really who is the Moron here?


Anyone who can't take a joke must be some kind of moron.

Azumanga Davo
24th February 2008, 10:01
Anyone who can't take a joke must be some kind of moron.

I can't believe you just said that. OUTSIDE, NOW! ;)

Breeze
24th February 2008, 19:18
It's official - I'm American
I'm pretty sure I resent the implication there Hazell. But I'll still let you a room should you decide to make it official and move over here. :p :

Eki
24th February 2008, 20:46
I'm pretty sure I resent the implication there Hazell. But I'll still let you a room should you decide to make it official and move over here. :p :
I admire your attitude of not taking things too seriously, unlike other Americans here who said "Really who is the Moron here", "LOL" and "Yeah, but we're taking all of Europe with US!" I'd imagine it would be wiser to try and solve problems together instead of suffering of them together while quarrelling.

TOgoFASTER
24th February 2008, 22:16
^ Thinking I just got grouped in with the wrong load.
LOL

Roamy
25th February 2008, 02:04
Hazel,
Inasmuch as we can no longer have any racial predjuice we men of america now have installed a new measure for becoming a us citizen.
No more men
Women will have to submitt nude photo's on my website
Pls PM me for instructions

Hazell B
26th February 2008, 20:06
I don't need instructions on taking nude photos, thanks :p :

Anyway, I'm moving in with Breeze (if the rent's cheap and he doesn't mind the flash whenever the camera goes off)

Yes, this is about how we're sometimes talked to by the British media. I don't buy newspapers, but do hear views from those who do. One simple piece of research over here can produce ten or more different stories, mainly patronising the reader's ability to think, and all wildly opposite to each other. Then we get comments like ".... Scottish born Sean Connery ...." when we know he's a Scot for goodness sake, or they tell us Kent is in England, Ireland isn't joined physically to the mainland and worst of all "....footballer Gazza ...." :rolleyes:

I honestly feel like I'm watching Newsround half the time :mark:

fandango
27th February 2008, 01:06
Ireland isn't joined physically to the mainland

Perhaps you deserve the media you've got. MAINland....

Hazell B
27th February 2008, 14:19
And perhaps you should learn to read :confused:

What's wrong with what I typed? I wasn't calling it Mainland Britain, so no caps required and it sure as hell isn't bad spelling :rolleyes:

Breeze
28th February 2008, 23:02
I don't need instructions on taking nude photos, thanks :p :

Anyway, I'm moving in with Breeze (if the rent's cheap and he doesn't mind the flash whenever the camera goes off)

As long as you don't mind my Pavlovian response, the rent can be VERY favorable.

Hazell B
29th February 2008, 15:16
:D

fandango
29th February 2008, 20:50
And perhaps you should learn to read :confused:

What's wrong with what I typed? I wasn't calling it Mainland Britain, so no caps required and it sure as hell isn't bad spelling :rolleyes:


Perhaps I misunderstood you, but if you HAD said mainland Britain then there would be no offense caused. However, your use of the definite article gives the impression that for you there is only one mainland, Britain. Irish people don't generally like that, and in a way what you did, unintentionally, was the same sort of thing as you criticised at the top of the thread. I don't know if you see the irony in that.

Drew
29th February 2008, 21:18
That would depend whether Hazell was talking about Northern Ireland or the island of Ireland.

fandango
29th February 2008, 21:41
That would depend whether Hazell was talking about Northern Ireland or the island of Ireland.

Eh, no it wouldn't. What was mentioned (if I can read, that is) was Ireland and the mainland.

(Ireland was, at one time, joined by land to mainland Britain, but never to "the mainland")

BDunnell
1st March 2008, 01:11
Eh, no it wouldn't. What was mentioned (if I can read, that is) was Ireland and the mainland.

(Ireland was, at one time, joined by land to mainland Britain, but never to "the mainland")

I think 'the mainland' is a perfectly acceptable phrase, not meant with any slight against the Republic of Ireland intended. It's just a geographical term and I think being offended by it is going too far.

Equally, casual references to Britain and Europe without automatically saying 'mainland Europe' are fine. I make them and I'm a committed believer in Britain being part of Europe in political terms.

fandango
1st March 2008, 18:51
Well, I don't think it's geographically correct, and while I'm sure no insult is intended, it does irritate some Irish people. The implication when used by British people is that Ireland belongs to Britain. The only reason I mention it is that it's the same thing that is so irritating for Hazel at the beginning of this thread, the assumption that others automatically share your opinion or perspective.

Hazell B
1st March 2008, 20:05
As you thought fandango, no insult was intended.
However, I'm not in any way equally as incompitant as the media in my poorly thought out wording - as I DON'T DO IT FOR A LIVING!

They do this for a wage and shouldn't make constant, stupid, patronising comments. Your posts have simply pointed out that it can cause annoyance, even though in my case I'm not broadcasting from the position of power they are, and oh, do I see the irony in that :)

BDunnell
2nd March 2008, 01:53
Well, I don't think it's geographically correct, and while I'm sure no insult is intended, it does irritate some Irish people. The implication when used by British people is that Ireland belongs to Britain. The only reason I mention it is that it's the same thing that is so irritating for Hazel at the beginning of this thread, the assumption that others automatically share your opinion or perspective.

But is there any opinion or perspective involved in this? After all, I would refer to Britain and 'mainland Europe' without it being a slight of any kind against Britain, which is the same sort of thing, and this is generally considered acceptable. I don't think it's even that lazy a piece of phrasing.

fandango
2nd March 2008, 10:24
....However, I'm not in any way equally as incompitant as the media in my poorly thought out wording - as I DON'T DO IT FOR A LIVING!

They do this for a wage and shouldn't make constant, stupid, patronising comments....

That's a good point, yes. They should know better as it's their job.



..After all, I would refer to Britain and 'mainland Europe' without it being a slight of any kind against Britain...

Of course it wouldn't, but if you say "the mainland" then the inclusion of "the" is what gets up people's noses, as it denotes a feeling that there is only one. It would be like an American (which incidently is a term hijacked by US citizens) refering to "the President" while in Britain.

BDunnell
2nd March 2008, 14:51
Of course it wouldn't, but if you say "the mainland" then the inclusion of "the" is what gets up people's noses, as it denotes a feeling that there is only one. It would be like an American (which incidently is a term hijacked by US citizens) refering to "the President" while in Britain.

I wouldn't have a problem with that, because I would know exactly who they are talking about.

fandango
2nd March 2008, 17:42
I wouldn't have a problem with that, because I would know exactly who they are talking about.

Yeah, of course, Zapatero - or Sarkozy, or Bush, or Montilla, or McAleese.....

Drew
2nd March 2008, 18:49
Yeah, of course, Zapatero - or Sarkozy, or Bush, or Montilla, or McAleese.....

For an American in the UK we'd know. An American in Spain, France or Ireland (I've never heard of Montila) then there'd be a confusion. It'd be like me going to America and saying the Queen, they'd all know, but if I went to Holland I'd probably have to clear it up..