British & Irish Championships 2024

[HKSjbg]

Happy doing 100km for the entry fee of a 70km event. The organisers added 30km for free to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the event. Would there have been as many entries if the full entry fee had been charged?

If it’s all down to the entry fee then surely it is sustainable to keep it at 100ish km? One would assume the organisers would be making a loss by not increasing the entry fee, yet this year’s event had 180 entries compared to 119 last year and 139 the year before.

I would also assume that although getting more entry fees coming in, that with 140 finishers there is a bit of an increase in the cost of repairing the roads. But still, with 61 more entries than last that would cover a lot of the extra cost involved in this year’s running of the event?

[J4MIE]

If it’s all down to the entry fee then surely it is sustainable to keep it at 100ish km? One would assume the organisers would be making a loss by not increasing the entry fee, yet this year’s event had 180 entries compared to 119 last year and 139 the year before.

I would also assume that although getting more entry fees coming in, that with 140 finishers there is a bit of an increase in the cost of repairing the roads. But still, with 61 more entries than last that would cover a lot of the extra cost involved in this year’s running of the event?

It’s not quite as simple as that. It was a round of all of the top UK championships, that’s the main reason entries were so high. Remember that BRC chops and changed their calendar on a whim the last few years.


Extra first usage costs - not sure of the figure, maybe £900/mile?
Extra 2nd usage costs - again maybe £650/mike or something?
Recce is an extra cost.
Extra permit fees per car is maybe a few hundred extra?

But then you have extra costs like rescue crews, doctors, signage, fuel/car costs for officials, etc.

If it was sustainable, every event would be doing it. All the details I’ve seen was saying it was specific to being the 50th year of the event. I can’t see it being much option in the future or other events, most will make a very modest small profit which will need to tide them over in leaner years.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Talking of popular blokes, I wonder if we'll see Tom Cave out this year?

He posted today that he did some gravel driving tuition with Jo's Verstappen before the Rallynuts.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Can anyone tell me how Ingram managed to start 4th on the road with out penalty?
Seems unfair if road position tactics can be played, with out time penaltys?

He didnt gain anything anyway as he was slower as the rally went on. The muddy 'line' created was more slippery than the gravel and the Polo R5 didnt have traction of the more modern Rally2 cars.

[HKSjbg]

https://britishrallychampionship.co....the-challenge/ Yeah yeah yeah heard it all before sting in the tail longer more challenging compact route etc

[AndyRAC]

A shame it seems there will be no Penmachno.....And if they want a proper sting in the tail, how about linking Alwen & Brenig, as seen on RallyGB in 2018? Might need a road closure, which is why it doesn't happen.

[archie106]

Sounds like a good route to me, they were unfortunate last year to have the use of Alwen withdrawn last minute.

Plenty of possible stage configurations within Clocaenog/Brenig, the drivers enjoy Alwen, and a single run through Elsi prevents the road cutting up too much.

I don't see much point in linking up Brenig/Alwen, additional cost/admin required for the road closure seems unnecessary when they can run a long stage through Clocaenog/Brenig.

[J4MIE]

They linked Alwen/Brenig a few years ago, was a pretty nice jump over crossroads.

Penmachno is a horrible rough stage, always causes loads of retirements, plus they used a road closure to link both sides of it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Anyone watched the BRC highlights show programme last night ?

Sadly there wasnt much improvement other than a slightly less complex showing of the various Championships & car classes.

To be fair the foggy weather didnt help the view of the action, but the camerawork was still pretty poor in terms of the positions, tracking shots losing the car and the drone shots again very amateurish.

[AndyRAC]

Plains Rally cancelled - a real shame.

https://www.plainsrally.co.uk/